The Master Returns - Logitech MX Master 2S Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Is this the ULTIMATE productivity mouse? We think so, with flawless Flow functionality, 70-day battery life & ergonomic form to make this a dream desktop mouse.
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Is Dmitri uploading less or Eber is uploading more?
I'm not protesting or anything ... just curious
We share the video load ;) 2+ videos from Dmitry and 2 from Eber per week is how we like to proceed.
-Dmitry.
ohhhhhhhh i was wondering too thx
its does feel like its been Eber heavy latley, or is that just me.
I don't think I'll upgrade to this one, will be waiting for the next version.
- an MX Master user
Same here. I'm quite contempt with my MX Master.
i'll probably pick up this one to have a third flavor. got the black/bronze and the white/cream one.
Using the MX Master as well and probably won't replace it until it breaks. Had a G7 with Carbon look before that which sadly broke down after many years off use. If it wouldn't have broken, I'd probably still be using that one.
You mean content? XD
I also won't upgrade, but it's sad Flow isn't coming to the original MX Master. After all it's just a software solution similiar to synergy
I loved the Performance MX!!!! I bought it in High school with birthday money, and now I have the G502, while the MX has passed on to my dad (he'd been using a Magic Mouse on his mac. Nuff said.)
Even though my rigs "productivity" is limited to WASD/LMB/RMB I want one of these.
After using the MX Master for work I don't think I could use any other mouse. The infinity scroll is invaluable to me going through several hundred page PDFs, and having that thumb gesture button is also really awesome for easily switching from scroll to zoom
Just got an MX 2S for a bargain price on amazon prime day, and found your review here to be very informative with the features that it does.
Nicely presented, and I learned a couple of things. Thanks!
Hey man, does your scrollwheel have a bit of lateral play?
@@hankschrader2353 No, I don't think so. My last logitech did, I thought it was a fault, and felt like such a fool when customer support told me it's meant to, the wheel on that model (M510) pushes left and right to scroll the screen that way.
have been using the MX master at home and work for 12 years
I loved the first one. Let's hope this goes on sale more often.
It's still for $99 :/
I still use the MX Revolution...the grand daddy to these mice.
I still use the old Performance MX mouse when not gaming, works like a charm even today. Only had to clean it well a few times. One of the best purchases ever. Didn't like the newer versions that much to be honest.
An an existing MX Master user, I really don't understand what they're trying to do here with the 2S. The best way to improve an existing product is to take the points that people complain about the most and fix them, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out what those are on the MX Master either. I think the most complained about feature of the original is the placement on the forward and back buttons, which I think every tech RUclipsr complained about when reviewing the original. Yet strangely they haven't addressed this. They also haven't thought to implement a USB Type-C connector either. It's literally the same mouse with slightly improved battery life and slightly better sensor sensitivity. There's literally no point in even releasing this mouse. it's like an MX Master 1.5
I still have the original Performance MX, since 2010. Love it! :)
i had a performance mx until 2 days ago. Lost it or someone stole it, i hope i will find it. It is an amazing mouse, i used it for everything including pupg, Rainbow six siege, school, work
Bought an Performance MX mouse in early 2009. A decade later it saw me through the end of high school, all of college, and 4 years of working 40-60+ hours a week.
I've worn most of the pads off the bottom but it still holds a charge on the original Eneloop battery to the point where I might charge it every other week or so.
Most of the chrome is now shiny or dull black with just a hint of chrome on the top.
Maybe one of these days I'll replace it with a new Performance MX.
My MX Master is by far the best mouse I've had since 1989!!!
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I've had my Performance MX for 5 years now, still works
Still rocking the MX Performance after almost 10 years now. Used it for travel, designing in Adobe suite, gaming, took it to work, on the couch, everywhere. I'd instantly buy a new one if only I could get it for about €60. After ten years the only damage (besides serious signs of usage) is the middle mouse button/scroll wheel button no longer works.
Buy a used one on eBay, some of them are barely used and cost like $35, although I am in the US so I don't know how the used MX Performance market translates over to the EU.
@@CockatooDude Yea, our local eBay (owned by eBay actually) didn't have ant for a while but yesterday I bought one for about 50 bucks! Basically brand new compared to my 8yo one. Hope to enjoy this one for many years to come! Now I got one for at work and at home :)
@@RoozenB Nice man! Good going.
i just hope they fixed the scroll wheel issue. Smartshift would make it stuck inbetween modes, making it very annoying to use.
Mine got stuck after 2 hours of usage, maybe it's bad luck on my end or something, but it has remained stuck for the whole time i owned it.
If they didn't fix this issue, i would suggest disabling the smartshift option and using to dedicated button to switch between modes to prevent the wheel from getting stuck.
I've used this mouse for a week now and it looks like the issue is fixed.
Subject_Tira Hmm... I've been constantly switching between the MX Master and 2S during my testing period, haven't noticed that issue. we're you able to request Logitech for an RMA?
Used the MX Master for 2 months, no issue.
I still have that mouse, it's amazing! it's still my daily driver for work. 7 years later and still perfect.
Best video on this mouse. I already own it and did not know some of these things!! Made me even MORE excited about my purchase!
Using this mouse for 2 years now (11 hours a day) You don't retract your thumb to press those side mouse buttons. There is muscles on the side of your finger that work flawlessly after 3 days. Best mouse I've ever had.
How well does it work for gaming? Im not talking about competitiv gaming but just ur average casual gamer
Can someone explain to me why they don't offer this mouse with a decent sensor and the same low latency wireless technology they use in their gaming range? When I am editing images/videos or doing 3d modeling i find low response times and an accurate sensor to be just as important as when I am gaming, probably more so. To me even browsing the Internet and working on text documents felt somewhat awkward with this mouse and there's no way I would use it for the tasks mentioned earlier. The high weight doesn't really help either but it wouldn't be a deal breaker in it of itself, the terrible sensor and response times however are. I find this a real shame because I pretty much loved everything else about it, though a few more programmable buttons would be nice for productivity.
I can't connect my laptop and computer to the FLOW. They are connected to the same network. Flow is installed on both and the mouse is set up on both also.
i love all the shots in this. great cinematography all around
That Himalayan Salt Lamp on your desk is in my Amazon "save for later " basket... Totally gonna buy it now - cheers!
First time viewer of your channel!!!! Damm you rock! Nice review. Thanks
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I'm still using my original mx revolution 10yrs later, still my favorite mouse of all time.
I love my old Performance Mouse MX, i still keep it in the drawer somewhere, it really is an amazing mouse. I used it for more than 5 years as a daily driver and would occasionally take it to work. Few months ago, I replaced it with the MX Master (1st gen) in Navy Blue and i love it. I don't use side scroll, though, but the software is so versatile so I might find another use for it except side scroll. And, yes, I agree with the battery percentage in the software, I would love to see Logitech implement that in one of the next updates.
I've used the Performance MX and really love the button layout and palm support. Also, I will never buy another mouse without hyperscroll - that's addictive
The fast scroll is very satisfying.
Have been using the performance MX at work in 3D modeling and drafting software for many years. Very comfortable.
I am a graphic designer. Just ordered the MX 2S because it seems like a comfortable mouse. I am not sure if I am going to use the extra buttons that much but hopefully they come in handy. The horizontal scroll wheel seems cool also. Waiting for my package in the mail. Cheers
Hi, I’m a graphic design student and I’m planning on getting this mouse, it’s for 66$ on amazon. How was your experience with this one? Do you think it’s worth it?
I own a MX Performance and is the mouse I'm using now.But until i do not have a desktop i can't tell how i feel it.Just happy to see I'm not the only one to own it.
One thing I hate about my MX Master 2S is the fact that the mouse has already gotten glossy after 6 months use. They decided to use ABS plastic instead of PBT which takes a lot longer to shine. Another issue I have on mine is the fact that I can't set any custom macro's on the buttons, you are stuck with using only the small amount of actions they allow you to work with.
i just recently bought the mx master 2s and i'm really happy with it it's a great mouse! i don't use the flow feature because I only have one pc though
I don't know why I didn't know this but I didn't know the gesture button was a gesture button. I thought it was just a button. So thanks for that. It used to be set up to show all open windows (alt-tab). I set it up so forward is zoom in, back is zoom out, left is scroll left (I wanted pan left but that wasn't an option), and right is scroll right. I just did it so I'll see how it works. I especially like that just clicking it resets the zoom because I accidentally zoom all the time and have to go into the menu to reset it. Now I can just click and it's fixed.
I have something to say about the point at 5:00 regarding the MX Master 2S being less responsive and accurate compared to the G403.
From my personal experience of having both the G403 wireless and first MX Master, I felt that the issue with it was due to the low polling rate of 125hz on the MX Master. I would wish that Logitech implemented a 1000hz polling rate on the MX master like what they did on the G403.
Oh yes, I owned the Performance MX way back in college for graphic design work and it was awesome. Hours and hours spent in Illustrator and Minecraft alike. I have long but skinny hands and it was ergonomic and comfortable to use. The placement of buttons was intuitive. I very much enjoyed my time with it. (I now use a wired Logitech G500S)
What did you not like about it?
@@englishwithaltini There wasn't much I didn't like about that mouse. The battery was rechargeable but removable without taking the whole thing apart.
That said, one thing I don't like about Logitech is that they seem to use "middle shelf" switches. They don't seem to last as long as they should. I had to open them mouse up and replace one of the physical switches because the old one wore out. It involved removing and readding solder and not something I'd recommend for the average person.
I’ve had my Mx master since 1845 and it’s still working great !!!!!!!!
The MX Anywhere is also a fantastic mouse. I have two of them. One goes with my server and the other travels with me for use with my laptop. My MX Master is used with my primary computer which is a desktop system.
I have an MX Master which I used for about a year. I built a new PC, and wanted a dedicated mouse and keyboard that was at least as good as my G610 and MX Master 2S for the new PC. I did have some connectivity issues with the new 2S, figured it out, and am quite impressed in how they improved a mouse that I thought needed no improvement. Very nice device.
I still have and use every day my Performance MX. It was a gift for my birthday of 2010 or 2011, I can't remember. I had to change a micro-switch because the left click button was mis-clicking sometimes. I love the ergonomics and the weight. The Mionix mices have been very tempting...but can't justify putting money to change a device that I love and is pretty much perfect to my grip.
Really good looking, high quality Video as always! Great Job!!!
I've used the performance mx for 3 years and it's age is starting to show. although I haven't been the best owner. it's done well on the stock rechargable battery
Still have my performance MX, i believe ive been using it for about 5 years now, no problems with it at all, still has great battery life, works everywhere, and its very comfortable. have been debating replacing it with an MX Master or 2S but havent found any reason to as of yet :/
Great review, thanks. I use only gaming mice up to this point, but I just got a new graphic design job and I have been looking for the perfect productivity mouse for work. I ran into the previous generation of mx mice which go for around 70 to 80 bucks, but I think I am going to have to spend the extra 20 dollars to get this one. It looks fantastic
Had the Performance MX myself. While some of the extra buttons are missed, I've figured out over time my hands and wrists find a shorter flat mouse more comfortable. The MX's metallic accent finish detoriated heavily also over a period of two years. A simple and cheap Microsoft Designer Mouse now meets my comfortable productivity and casual gaming needs.
Excellent review, I just recently purchased the master 2s myself and loving it
Well, I'm still rocking a 4 year old M705 on it's original batteries, which are at 40% because I turned it off for the first 3 years when not in use.
I'm upgrading to a second hand MX 2S for the horizontal scrolling, which was the same price as a new M705.
Still, own the original mouse you showed, ended up upgrading to the MX master last year but wow that original mouse I had for 7 years or something. It was a trooper and the battery still worked well after that long!
I have this one. I had its predecessor too. that Cosmos 2 case looks amazing.
I've had mine performence mx for 4 years now, and it still serves my daily uses when i'm in school
FYI - you can't assign any buttons or use the horizontal scroll when using just bluetooth.
horizontal scroll works on bluetooth, though the buttons are fixed without the software
Great video! Wonder if there's a way to mod scroll wheel to be a little less noisy when switching between modes
I've been using the Performance MX mouse for years now. I can't edit without it. I love the custom buttons.
Why is you're voice so relaxing!? Other than that amazing videos man!
I recently had the MX master. I liked the software that comes with it where you can setup loads of custom commands that can rival the gestures I know and love from my Macbook Pro. I also like the look of the mouse as well it fits to my idea of what hardware for a content creator should look like.
I ended up returning the mouse because of quite a lot of lag everytime the computer thinks about a task. This occurred both on my hackintosh as well as on my iMac at school.
I didn't care for the ergonomics of the mouse either. The mouse is too high and therefore gave me wrist fatigue especially scrolling was very awkward. The build quality was alright but not fantastic.
I love my MX Master. I'm glad the MX Master 2S isn't different enough to justify spending another $100.
Still rocking the Performance MX, which I've used for YEARS. Aside from the battery not holding a charge very well, its still trucking along. Probably going to be replaced by the 2S soon, though.
I'm still using the MX Performance, mousing with it right now. I use it daily and it fits my giant mitt of a hand fantastically :)
Battery lasts an eon, and charges in a few hours from a front USB header.
If they used the Hero sensor and enlarged the thumb buttons you would have the best mouse without competition. Maybe even drill the body for weight.
Have both the Performance MX and the MX Master. The PMX is my daily driver (4 years and going strong) as the ergonomics are better for all day use (for me anyway). The MXM is used when doing really intense work across multiple windows/browsers/spreadsheets - makes it really easy to navigate between them. The MXM is also used when travelling - the Bluetooth connection leaves me with an additional USB port free on the laptop. Both are excellent though, but I don't think I'll be updating to the 2S until one of mine dies. Thanks for a comprehensive review.
Awesome mouse.
My old Performance MX is still going 5 years strong and perfect for gaming, web browsing, office use and CAD. Kinda hard to justify an upgrade when it's older brother is still kicking.
I have this mouse - apart from no usb C and non user replaceable battery (won't stop me with a screwdriver!), its awesome. The hyper scroll took me by surprise (I'm a male, don't read manuals :P). Was on an ebay page and wanted to scroll to the international sellers so gave the wheel a flick. off it went to the bottom of the page. I watched the super fluid wheel spin down like a gyro, and then heard the click of the ratchet servo re-engage. "Cool! my mouse has gears!". Good to see Flow, I can now seemlessly switch between my macbook and my media centre hackintosh without having to have a seperate mouse on each. And my coffee table is glass, this mouse works smooth as silk on that!
I have an Performance MX and I love it. It may not be the best, however for my use is the perfect blend between comfort and portability.
omg! a fellow Performance MX user!
I just recently retired one still-working Performance MX for a gaming mouse, but it was purely for completion intents.
The darn mouse was great in every aspect and I used to game with it. I think my first unit is around 4+ years old now and the battery still works and hold a very decent charge.
I have a secondary unit with my laptop and I might bring my recommission my old unit to my workplace because it is that good. This one may be around 3+ years old.
I love my original mx master. Ive had it for about a year and I definitely don't regret the purchase. I actually do have to use two mice on my desk though (ive got a razer death adder) because the tracking and weight are not that good for gaming, but for literally everything else I prefer the mx master. The wireless connection is SUPER fast, the hot switch button works amazingly between all my devices, the thing is much more comfortable then any other mouse, its amazingly built, the scroll wheel is awesome, etc.
Love your aesthetic and reviews!
Regarding the 'Hyper Scroll Wheel' on the MX Master & 2S.
Sometimes when I'm on the phone talking to people and I've got the computer on I will open up Excel, select a cell on the first row, and then using my index finger and all my strength and finesse spin the 'Hyper Scroll' wheel as hard and fast as I can to see how many rows down I can reach. I forget but I think a good spin was at least 7000.
It's surprising how much variance there is depending on how well you spin the wheel.
I LOVE my MX Master at work, as a software developer, but couldn't justify one at home due to the DPI limitations. Now I think I will have one for home!
I do alot of editing at least 5days a week and 10 hrs a day....
I LOVE THIS MOUSE.... very smooth and very fast and accurate and the battery lasts about 3 weeks really im not kidding 3 weeks (not 70 days not for me)..very heavy use. no it does not work that well glass..and also flow works awsome and copy and paste works very fast on LARGE files..... and ya 100bucks is overpriced but so is everything
I have a Logitech Performance MX, Great mouse, only issue so far, I have a double click "new feature". But after 4 years using it intensively for work and gaming, it was a fair companion.
I have the Anywhere 2S and it's great. The Flow function also works on the Anywhere 2S. I would highly recommend the Anywhere 2S.
I have had my Performance MX for ages and I still love it
Im still rockin a g602 and have no problems with it at all. Apart from the scroll click button being broken
I've been using the MX Master 1 for about a year now with my work computer and it's great. I can't say that the battery life is a full month, but I would believe it. I definitely don't charge it once a month. I don't use flow, the big sellers for me were egro and the thumb wheel since I work with lots of large databases and spreadsheets.
I have the first MX Anywhere, still works perfectly almost 10 years later. I let people use it at work and they love it.
Why does he stress no gaming so much? I get the gamer hate on wireless mice and on laser sensors, but I gamed with the mx master for a year and now I'm using the 2s and it's fantastic. I've never had a problem and I've never noticed a difference between this mouse and my Razer Deathadder Elite.
I game with my MX Master as well -- don't want to say that it is hate, but rather because there are no DPI switching options which, to some, are very essential with online shooters.
Is there any way to set the buttons to be dpi switchers? Also, can you customize the buttons per-app through the software?
For some shooters a DPI switching option is essential. However if you don't play shooters or don't use DPI switching (you're not a sniper player) then this mouse is comparable to my Steelseries Sensei in terms of sensor quality which is biggest reason to get a gaming grade mouse.
It just doesn't seem to have many gaming oriented features such as dpi switch and the number of remappable buttons or their positioning doesn't inspire what the, say, G502 inspires when gaming. The MX Master is designed and targeted at "power users" people who are in a production environment. I'll be using it for gaming on the go, but am aware that it'll really shine when working or in everyday use. For long gaming sessions, I'll probably switch back to my G502.
I have that old Logitech mouse still, and I still love it.
The king of office mice, including in price.
Droplight Tech mx anywhere 2 is my favorite since it just has less ergonomics, cost less, and great for portable use.
And good for gaming too. Just not the best but totally service-able.
Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic is cheaper, so you are right about price premium. If MX Master is better than Sculpt Ergonomic... My ideal mice would have Ergonomic's design, just more programmable buttons and DPI selector, than I would retire my Razer DeathAdder Elite, which is not that good for productivity. Funny that I used Microsoft's office mices for even competitive gaming since 1998 but I game a lot, lot less when I started buying esport-grade products. But I just like big mouse ergonomics of DeathAdder or G502 and lots of macro buttons.
i remember owning the performance mx. i returned it after a few weeks because there was way too much input lag to keep playing cs 1.6 with it. i loved the hyper scrolling though, and im glad that they kept that feature around
One would expect that, in such a long video, you'd go into important details about the mouse.
I just got the MX Master 2S to replace my now half-dead Performance, but the lack of horizontal navigation (left/right push) from the vertical scroll button is a total deal-breaker. The noise made by the main buttons when clicked is also significantly louder than the Performance MX. Finally, you can kind of of learn how to live with the horrible position of the forward/back buttons, but I'd rather have them in the original position and ditch the horizontal scroll.
It seems like the Anywhere 2S would be the right choice for me (despite de much smaller size), but then they've decide to make the clickable scroll a non-button (yet another very important detail not mentioned in your video).
Still have a Performance MX over here, around 4 years and counting, exceptional mouse!
Still rocking the Logitech Performance MX. Love this mouse weight and feel is perfect.
I've been using the MX Master for gaming, mostly Battlefield and the occasional Rising Storm, for over a year without noticing any drawbacks after switching to it from a Razer gaming-graded mouse.
I have two Performance MX. Had them for about 5 years. Bought one for home and decided I wanted one at work too. Only problem is I find they are pretty bad at scrolling on Chrome, even with the Chrome plugin. I'll probably buy an MX Master sometime down the road. Maybe when one of these stops working.
It's crazy I've been using the Logitech MX Performance mouse, I got it for $10 on letgo (steal). The ergonomics and customizations alone are amazing. I've been really tempted to buy the Master 2S because it has a feature that I think I would use a lot "Flow". I work from home many days out of the week and can see the usefulness in having one mouse for both my work and personal computer.
have you looked at synergy, does the same thing via software.
Still using a Performance MX. Had it for 3.5 years after the first one was replaced under warranty, because of bad left click.
I'm still using the Performance MX. The back button is a little mushy, and requires more force to activate. Other than that, still works like a charm.
The first master with it's bronze trims just looks so much better.
I don't own the Wireless Performance MX - I own the wired version of it. It was (arguably still is) a kick butt mouse. I recently changed to the G502 (but I'm not letting my Performance MX go) - it does suit my use (esp when gaming) better. I've kept the laser mouse for back up. I'm very happy with both.
I'm gaming on an MX Master without issue. Maybe I just don't know what I'm missing, but I don't feel any limitations.
You got me at Flow.. I have 2 PCs and hate being confused by which mouse to grab. If I could just slide over from one to the other and not have to use Synergy either that would be awesome.
I still have the performance MX and i love it. The forward button is just broken sadly, but I'm not upgrading yet!
Ive been using my mx anywhere 2s for months now without charginf. It just doesnt die
Honestly really glad I came across this review, I just so happened to come across this after scoring this mouse from a lost and found bin 😅 I didn’t know that there was a gesture button by the thumb
Thank you for comparing the 2 mouse's. No one else seems to be doing this.
I am still using its previous MX. MX Revo. Still serving me well.
I have an mx performance and (2.5years) and I game a lot on it and the latency is not a problem even on csgo and I think after 2.5 years not having any problem is VERY good
Still rocking Logi MX Performance and still loving it. I've considered getting an MX Master but only after Performance dies (I dont think it'll happen soon).