I have been looking for this shotgun for several years now. I finally lost patience and purchased several double barrel shotgun, bolt on rail mounts from online and made my Stoeger Coach and Condor into tactical shotguns. These bolt on shotgun mounts work great on my shotguns.
@@xtraflowhen you break it open, you need to break it open all the way to set the firing pins. If you don’t, only one pin will set. You won’t know until you try to fire both. Also, you can’t slam it close. It’ll be hard to break it open. Just need to remember those two things and it’ll be fine.
@jakemorrison548 I did notice that it's gonna take some break in time to break it open all the way Smoothly. That's great advice that I'll take to heart! Thanks for that!!
Not long ago i bought the side by side 12 gauge stoeger coach gun. Its the second double barrel i have bought in the last 2 years. My other is a yildiz 12 gauge side by side. I might get an over and under one of these days
@@rickthompson1422 We don't disclose prices here, they vary too much from store to store, you will have to reach out to your store and ask them. For MSRP, look at their website, it's listed there.
Pretty sweet, I like it at least. The auto safety really isn’t all that big of a deal, once you get used to the gun it becomes an automatic muscle memory thing..close gun, click safety off at exact same time in one fel motion. Not a big deal, doesn’t slow down follow-ups…given you really shouldn’t need a follow up if you’re using the right ammo. Whatever was standing in front of you prior to those two blasts will no longer exist by the time you’re ready to throw two more it’s way.
I wish I could, This platform frowns on links, they will remove the posts and give us strikes, the light has long been discontinued, it was an old Insight Tech Gear Light. I would use either Surefire or StreamLight. The Ammo is Federal Shorty Shells. The Red Dot was a TruGlo, these are now on sale at Palmetto State Armory for under $70
I actually understand the reasoning for it though. Accidents do happen. We lost a SWAT Officer here at a local PD, he dropped his loaded rifle and it went off, killing him.
@@yrsued I wouldn't want to be on the business end of any gun, who would.* Fine motor skills go out the window in high stress situations. Having an automatic safety go on after what could be a Hasty reload is a major Flaw. It's counter productive and a clear disadvantage. The shotgun is pretty i'll give it that. But that safety has to go.
@@StarsiegeMercenaries Your opinion, you are entitled to it, I don't agree 100% with it, when you have a firearm, ANY Firearm, you must learn to operate it and it becomes second nature, like taking the safety off a 1911 or pumping an 870.
In fact it's useful for them to not eject. You might be in a situation where you don't want to be looking for your empties or leave them laying around.
@@orangeponygsxr9366 You are confusing me, if it doesn't auto Eject them, how are you picking them up from the dirt. If it doesn't auto Eject them, I pick them out of the chamber and put them in my pocket.
@@GO-UA77 ...great... thanks for answering...I wish you all safety and a conclusion of this mess....I love Ukraine 🇺🇦 I rode the train many times traveling between Kyiv and Kremenchuk....I never made it to your city, but heard of it ! Please send me shashlik to Texac ! LOL
Two reasons: 1 SAVE MONEY 2 Less parts to break on a TACTICAL GUN!!! The last thing you want is your gun with parts that might break to have parts BREAK!!!
@@stevenrodriguez9655 When I shot Competition, I LOVED Bomar Sights, in my day, I saw my fair share of Bomars fall apart in the middle of a Match. Now that I no longer do USPSA/IPSC and IDPA, I don't see the need for an Adjustable Sight on a Fighting pistol, too many parts to break when you least expect it.
My best guess is cost savings, they wanted to make a less expensive shotgun and more of a fighting shotgun, the ejector mechanism wasn't really made to be that strong, I have yet to see any Sporting Clays shooter to to battle with a Krieghof..
@@yrsued The cheap H&R single shot guns have ejectors, so cost savings cant be the reason. And they would make realoads faster. So for fighting shot gun it would make more sense than for shooting clay.
@@Gieszkanne I just answered this question, from you on another post. My Answer is simple, I DO NOT KNOW!! I didn't design the Gun, I didn't make the Gun, I just shot it. If you have concerns about the design, reach out to Stoeger, tell them you have a better design and sell it to them. I just shoot them, I don't design them. Personally, I want the simplest gun ever, with the least amount of moving parts to break!! That is why I dislike Adjustable Sights on a Pistol, I have seen them fly off into the stratosphere more than once!!
Safety is a Safety!! Take it out, someone is going to have an ND and they WILL SUE 18"-20"... WHY?? 2" is NOT going to make a huge difference!! It is still over 26" for SBS Minimum which is good!! Ejectors, ya, but I bet that would increase the price, I don't know by how much though..
@@orvaroth1613 No, not at all, according to the website, it does not. But, what I meant to ask was what difference would 1.5" from 20" to 18.5" would make. Remember, even though the legal limit is 18", most manufacturers make their barrels 18.5". Personally, I don't think it will make enough of a difference to make a difference, but that's just me thinking here and shit gets dangerous when I think!!
@@orvaroth1613 SBS, not SBR and the NFA is something I don't want to deal with at the this time. I like this one for what it is and I have the "Firearms" from Mossberg and the old Remington for that small Firearm requirements.
I can see them selling a grand total of 8 of these in the United States with that ridiculously stupid auto-safety. That's the silliest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
@@yrsuedit shows up in game (surprisingly) as a “Franken-gun” of the weapon seen here as well as the Maverick Hs-12 Thunder Ranch. In game it fires slugs so it’s a bit different than the one seen IRL (It’s why you are having people ask you about the possibility of it shooting slugs)
@@yrsued the one I’m more a fan of now that I’ve seen both is the Mossberg HS-12. It has the same tactical look at the one you reviewed but this one was actually looked at briefly by law enforcement and SWAT officers as a breaching/backup shotgun
@@Gieszkanne I was guessing, I honestly don't know, that is a question for those who make and sell the gun, not for some dude in the internet that likes shooting the guns
Auto ejectors and removal of the automatic safety then I would get one for defense.
The Auto Safety I get, but I don't need the ejectors, one more part to break!!
Those are 2 glaring issues with this gun for sure! The last thing you need in a gunfight is the f-ing safety popping on automatically.
I have been looking for this shotgun for several years now. I finally lost patience and purchased several double barrel shotgun, bolt on rail mounts from online and made my Stoeger Coach and Condor into tactical shotguns. These bolt on shotgun mounts work great on my shotguns.
That is a very ingenious solution. I hope they work for you!!
Just picked one up yesterday 11-18-23. Can’t wait to go to the range.
Buying the SxS next
You made a great purchase!!
Any reliability issues yet?? I just bought one an waiting to bring it home...
@@xtraflowhen you break it open, you need to break it open all the way to set the firing pins. If you don’t, only one pin will set. You won’t know until you try to fire both.
Also, you can’t slam it close. It’ll be hard to break it open.
Just need to remember those two things and it’ll be fine.
@jakemorrison548 I did notice that it's gonna take some break in time to break it open all the way Smoothly. That's great advice that I'll take to heart! Thanks for that!!
Not long ago i bought the side by side 12 gauge stoeger coach gun. Its the second double barrel i have bought in the last 2 years. My other is a yildiz 12 gauge side by side. I might get an over and under one of these days
This is a very sturdy Home Defense gun, it worked great for me!!
I have one of these and I love it …perfect for fighting my way to my self defense weapon
It's compact and it DOES work!!!
....how much do they sell for? Never seen one....
@@rickthompson1422 We don't disclose prices here, they vary too much from store to store, you will have to reach out to your store and ask them. For MSRP, look at their website, it's listed there.
@@yrsued ...thanks Yamil....
@@rickthompson1422 The last time I posted a price, YOuTube thought I was selling guns and they demonetized the Video and took it down!!
Love it. People in the comments need to Stop playing call of duty and talking about the ejector
I don't have Call of Duty but I know that ejectors facilitate faster reloads, and on a 2-shot gun, reloading could well be critical.
@@nathanhileman3848 if fast reloading and/or firing more than two shots is high priority then should you even be looking at double barrel shotguns?
@@nathanhileman3848 What are you planning on a zombie apocalypse to happen??
I do wish they would put the ejectors on the defense models
I don't need them, I don't like extra parts that might break when you need it the most!! I like simple!! But then again this is just MY Opinion!!
Akkar Churchill has a 206 hd with ejectors in it. This over under is a beauty. I have the dbl defence but Im really stoked over this Churchill..
@@pcbeauty2696 You should go get one then!!!
@yrsued I'm with you on that. Just more issue to come across in the future. Want kill me to manually pull the shells out
Pretty sweet, I like it at least. The auto safety really isn’t all that big of a deal, once you get used to the gun it becomes an automatic muscle memory thing..close gun, click safety off at exact same time in one fel motion. Not a big deal, doesn’t slow down follow-ups…given you really shouldn’t need a follow up if you’re using the right ammo. Whatever was standing in front of you prior to those two blasts will no longer exist by the time you’re ready to throw two more it’s way.
I agree with you!!
Thanks for the vid, could you reply with the brands or links to your 2 attachments to the shotgun and the ammunition you used.
I wish I could, This platform frowns on links, they will remove the posts and give us strikes, the light has long been discontinued, it was an old Insight Tech Gear Light. I would use either Surefire or StreamLight. The Ammo is Federal Shorty Shells. The Red Dot was a TruGlo, these are now on sale at Palmetto State Armory for under $70
The automatic safety is the only let down for me
I actually understand the reasoning for it though. Accidents do happen. We lost a SWAT Officer here at a local PD, he dropped his loaded rifle and it went off, killing him.
@@yrsued he forgot safety? I'm not saying have no safety, but an automatic safety on a double barrel is way over the top.
@@strider5119 Hey, this is America, you have choices. You buy what you want.
I want that.
It is a great choice for home defense.
@@yrsued Definitely.
This might sell well in countries that forbid pumps or semi automatic guns
Interesting compact gun.
Here in the US, it does have its uses!!
...those laws are coming to the US in the near....
@@rickthompson1422 Not with this congress, they are fighting!!
@@yrsued Sadly we are basically a one party country now. A few outliers but most are working together to destroy us.
@@bertroost1675 YUP, we must keep fighting for our freedoms!!
...wish I never saw this video; now I'll want to buy two of them...
LOL, sorry, I think it's a GREAT buy too!!
Buy one over/under, and one side by side.
@@faitaccompli5878 GREAT idea
As a former pizza guy.....I can confirm that this will stop me from being unpleasent......but I prefer tips.
I think it would prevent ANYONE from being unpleasant.... Ya, we tip great!!
Will this fire slugs or does it only fire buck shot?
This takes ANY 12 GA shotgun shell.
@@yrsued thank you for letting me know the answer to my question.
@@davy1458 My pleasure, that is what we're here for. Honestly, when I did the test, I had Micro Shell Slugs, I just didn't think about it!!
What’s next? a tactical cool musket? Just kidding , great option where a double barrel is (still) legal and the rest isn’t
Hey, this is a nice option for home defense!!
I kinda wish it had an ejection instead of extractor
Me too, but... It's a case of Price point, I think that assembly would put it on a higher Price Point that they want to keep!!
Id be more than happy to pay the difference
Hey do u recommend a flashlight for a sxs?
YUP, Flashlights are great for home defense!!
@@yrsued which flashlight / mount would u recommend for 20 ga sxs double defense?
@@nickyc583 Which model do you have?? I put a Pistol light on the one I tested
Nice shotgun!
Best to ya',,,,!
No time to see!! Thanks for watching!!
OMG that auto safety is going to come back to bite you during the Zombie Apocalypse 🧟♂️
Ya, that safety is OK for safety, but you have to practice to take it out!!
We'll go ahead and add a bayonet to the front there for that occasion! 😂🎉
You can remove the safety
Safety feature* makes this weapon useless. I know how that sounds. But its just a "you are dead switch".
I might not be a fan, but it is NOT useless, it's a safety!! I would NOT like to be on the business end of this gun...
@@yrsued I wouldn't want to be on the business end of any gun, who would.* Fine motor skills go out the window in high stress situations. Having an automatic safety go on after what could be a Hasty reload is a major Flaw. It's counter productive and a clear disadvantage. The shotgun is pretty i'll give it that. But that safety has to go.
@@StarsiegeMercenaries Your opinion, you are entitled to it, I don't agree 100% with it, when you have a firearm, ANY Firearm, you must learn to operate it and it becomes second nature, like taking the safety off a 1911 or pumping an 870.
If you can't operate a safety on a weapon, you shouldn't play with guns.
Was wanting to know do u have a link where it can purchased at sir
Your local Gun Store or any legitimate Online Store.
Why don't the empty hulls eject automatically like most over/unders??
This feature is not on ALL Over & Under, only the higher end ones, this is NOT that!! This is about 1/4 cost of what those shotguns cost.
In fact it's useful for them to not eject. You might be in a situation where you don't want to be looking for your empties or leave them laying around.
@@bertroost1675 I don't see the lack of ejectors to be an issue..
@@yrsuedI do it's annoying picking them up out of the dirt when dove,quail or duck hunting
@@orangeponygsxr9366 You are confusing me, if it doesn't auto Eject them, how are you picking them up from the dirt. If it doesn't auto Eject them, I pick them out of the chamber and put them in my pocket.
Honestly, I would love this as a meme gun
Ya, this is a perfect Meme Gun that is capable of removing limbs
Greetings from Ukraine! What is its total length?
36.5", all the info is on the website!!
Stay safe.
....what city are you near Gronskyi? I lived in Kyiv and Kremenchuk for 3 years on and off....from Texac.....I love Ukraine 🇺🇦 amazing adventures....
@@rickthompson1422 Hi Rick! I am from Cherkasy, between Kyiv and Kremenchuk. Thank you Americans for supporting Ukraine!🤙
@@GO-UA77 ...great... thanks for answering...I wish you all safety and a conclusion of this mess....I love Ukraine 🇺🇦 I rode the train many times traveling between Kyiv and Kremenchuk....I never made it to your city, but heard of it ! Please send me shashlik to Texac ! LOL
Why would they make a tactical over under without ejectors.
Two reasons:
1 SAVE MONEY
2 Less parts to break on a TACTICAL GUN!!! The last thing you want is your gun with parts that might break to have parts BREAK!!!
@@yrsued I guess those are good reasons.
@@stevenrodriguez9655 When I shot Competition, I LOVED Bomar Sights, in my day, I saw my fair share of Bomars fall apart in the middle of a Match. Now that I no longer do USPSA/IPSC and IDPA, I don't see the need for an Adjustable Sight on a Fighting pistol, too many parts to break when you least expect it.
@@yrsued I guess similar to why I prefer cars with less bells and whistles, especially electronic. Less shit to hit the fan down the road!
@@stevenrodriguez9655 That is EXACTLY the same thing!!
WHy they have no ejectors?
My best guess is cost savings, they wanted to make a less expensive shotgun and more of a fighting shotgun, the ejector mechanism wasn't really made to be that strong, I have yet to see any Sporting Clays shooter to to battle with a Krieghof..
@@yrsued The cheap H&R single shot guns have ejectors, so cost savings cant be the reason. And they would make realoads faster. So for fighting shot gun it would make more sense than for shooting clay.
@@Gieszkanne I just answered this question, from you on another post. My Answer is simple, I DO NOT KNOW!! I didn't design the Gun, I didn't make the Gun, I just shot it.
If you have concerns about the design, reach out to Stoeger, tell them you have a better design and sell it to them. I just shoot them, I don't design them. Personally, I want the simplest gun ever, with the least amount of moving parts to break!! That is why I dislike Adjustable Sights on a Pistol, I have seen them fly off into the stratosphere more than once!!
Still tryna find out who Yamil sued. Bet it was Sig.
Gee, I've never heard that before, dang, so original...
You can easily disengage the auto safety feature on these. Also most over under have ejectors, which this doesn't.... that makes it a fail in my book
Like any Gun, you don't have to buy it if you don't like it!! I actually like it!!
3 improvements they could make, safety, 18" barrel, ejectors---great vid
Safety is a Safety!! Take it out, someone is going to have an ND and they WILL SUE
18"-20"... WHY?? 2" is NOT going to make a huge difference!! It is still over 26" for SBS Minimum which is good!!
Ejectors, ya, but I bet that would increase the price, I don't know by how much though..
@@yrsued so are you saying if a shotgun has a 18" barrel i can be illegal if under 26"? thxs
@@orvaroth1613 No, not at all, according to the website, it does not. But, what I meant to ask was what difference would 1.5" from 20" to 18.5" would make. Remember, even though the legal limit is 18", most manufacturers make their barrels 18.5". Personally, I don't think it will make enough of a difference to make a difference, but that's just me thinking here and shit gets dangerous when I think!!
@@yrsued wondering about the cheapest shotgun with ejectors, sbr it, and maybe a fore grip -12" barrel ?? might make a good vid. cheers
@@orvaroth1613 SBS, not SBR and the NFA is something I don't want to deal with at the this time. I like this one for what it is and I have the "Firearms" from Mossberg and the old Remington for that small Firearm requirements.
2 rounds! You must be having a laugh.
It only tool ONE round for an 80 Year Old man to stop a Dirtbag with an AR in Norco, CA!!! ONE ROUND!!
@@yrsued 80 years old!!!! The gun would rip his arms off .
@@inurfaceson9722 That was funny as shit
I can see them selling a grand total of 8 of these in the United States with that ridiculously stupid auto-safety. That's the silliest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Maybe to you, they have sold a good share of them as per only ONE of the Distributors I asked..
Who would want a single trigger double gun? Defeats the whole purpose.
Defeats the whole purpose of what?? Single Trigger Double Shotguns have been available for decades.
I would.
Any rainbow six siege players here
Why?
@@yrsuedit shows up in game (surprisingly) as a “Franken-gun” of the weapon seen here as well as the Maverick Hs-12 Thunder Ranch. In game it fires slugs so it’s a bit different than the one seen IRL
(It’s why you are having people ask you about the possibility of it shooting slugs)
@@jakeb.7997 The bummer is that I no longer have this firearm. I do have the Federal Shorty Shell Slugs, I just didn't use them here!!
@@yrsued the one I’m more a fan of now that I’ve seen both is the Mossberg HS-12. It has the same tactical look at the one you reviewed but this one was actually looked at briefly by law enforcement and SWAT officers as a breaching/backup shotgun
@@jakeb.7997 Are they still making the HS-12?
It sucks that the rounds don't reject when you break open the shotgun.
Well, it's a lower price point shotgun, so not surprised!!
@@yrsued The cheap H&R single shotguns had ejectors. That has nothing to do with price.
@@Gieszkanne I was guessing, I honestly don't know, that is a question for those who make and sell the gun, not for some dude in the internet that likes shooting the guns