Slicking Up A Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- An eleven-minute tutorial on how to 'slick up' the Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme shotgun. Demonstration includes disassembly, refinishing action parts, and reducing spring tension, and reassembly.
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Well made video and good articulation!
Thank you very much.
Thanks for uploading this video. greetings from germany
My pleasure, and thank you for your comment.
Thank you for a good, helpful and educational video. Several valuable and helpful tips.
My pleasure!
Very informative video. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
I'm really glad to hear you found it useful. Thanks for the feedback.
i cant believe that thing is that rough off the line. nice job on the slick up. my uplander supreme is smooth as shit through a goose, right out the box! i may take the spring down like you did for a little ease but it has a very positive feel to it when it opens and closes. no wiggle side to side.
It's hard to say because I've never worked on another one, but I wondered a few times whether mine was just a particularly rough one.
really enjoyed this series, I have a few turkish made shotguns (mossberg and silver eagle brand) and similar issues / complaints
Glad to see you back you have been one of my favorite channels. I have missed your content brother.
Thanks very much, NYCR. Greatly appreciated as always.
Cheers for the tutorial!
Glad you found it useful.
I impulse bought one this summer and have only used it a few times. I already "fixed"the safety but this gives me all kinds of ideas
Spring is in the air; get er' done.
Looks nice after the polishing.
Thanks very much!
I last slicked up one of these a year or so ago and it as MUCH less rough than this one. The chambers were a bit below par but an automative brake hone soon fixed that.... makes a lovely job. Most of the opening stiffness is in the fore end fit on most of them.... They come out really well and for the money are hard to beat.
Glad to hear you did well with yours. I've wondered more than a few times whether mine was 'normal' for this gun, or an exceptionally poor example.
I have one as well , blued .410 made in 2013 after I watched this video I took mine apart yours was much rougher .
Great instructional video. I have a blued on and luckily it didn't need as much fixing as yours.
Glad to hear it. I've never seen one of the blued models in person; what's the finish like on the friction surfaces? Are you finding it wears at all, or is it pretty resilient?
@@TATVCanada The finish on mine was really good. It doesn't have any of the cast look or poor reaming. All I had to do was smooth up the ejector rod, cut a couple of coils off the spring, and take a shotgun shell with emory paper wrapped around it to smooth the chambers. They already looked fairly smooth but I wanted a mirror finish. I only messed with it to get the thing to drop open and drop shells out.
Well worth the wait.
Thanks mate I really appreciate it.
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
great info, thanks
No problem!
Try using a honing brush for the inside fo the barrels gives a nice finish along with smooth barrel function
I was looking at one online a few weeks back, but I so rarely need to perform this function I'm not sure it would get mused much.
The sad part is if you compare a new coach gun to an old one you will quickly see how much better the fit and finish is on the older one. The new ones are atrocious and aren’t worth the price but if you find an old one without the weld, buy it. Great gun and significantly under priced. Thanks for the video, now I need to go through all my newer coach guns that barely open.
I haven't come across many old ones but what you're saying is definitely reflective of the trends in the firearms industry as a whole. The pressure on manufacturers to produce something at a price people are willing (or these days just plain able) to pay is definitely having an effect on quality and production standards.
Love mine just the way it is
Nothing wrong with that, friend. Power to you.
I have one and it's an everyday carry ....city , country, back country....long highway drives
Makes sense as it's a pretty compact yet durable gun.
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Really like these videos. Could you do a video on the rock island m206?
Unfortunately I don't have access to one.
Thought this channel had been dead for about 3 years, and it looks like you did have a bit of hiatus, but YT must've unsubscribed me in that time (wasn't that so kind of them). I was very treated to see recent stuff on here. Resubscribed (I'll keep checking I am) and excited to see what comes next.
Btw, great job on slicking it up. What kind of Competition will you be using it in? Seeing that you've also done a video on a Rossi 92, I'd assume SASS, but I thought that only external hammer SXS were allowed in that, so I'm not sure.
Nvm, just watched the Rossi video and heard you say you're doing SASS.
Yeah my job was crazy for years starting with covid, and just kept getting worse after that. Got a new job about a year and a half ago and started prioritizing life VS work. Infinitely better management and work-life balance, so I was able to start making videos again.
Cool video how’s it holding up so far? I am thinking of getting one.. they look cool !!😎
No complaints! Plenty of elbow grease getting it set up but I really like it.
A new cocking rod from Gun Parts Co. is $3.52 so I bought a spare and cut mine. Your way gives NO safety at all. My way gives a normal safety, just not automatic.
It's the same/no safety the original coach guns had, but obviously you're welcome to do as you please of course. The reason I showed both methods and explained them was so people can choose whichever one suits them.
Thing is, those old coach guns had rebounding external hammers. The Stoeger uses internal ones where if you forget the safety ...
I remember 20 years ago you could buy these things for $169 all day long. They were super fun to shoot it, but didn’t come with screw and choke tube so I didn’t have any interest in them since I was mainly using shotguns for predator and turkey hunting. I won a few of the ducks unlimited banquet and just traded them off. I wish I would’ve kept one to leave by the front door for home security.
I was in Canadian tire yesterday looking at a box of 500 rounds of 22lr bulk ammo; $90! I was thinking the same thing "10 years ago that was $40"
@@TATVCanada Ten years ago it was $20 here
@@tripplebeards3427 "Let the good times roll..."
@@TATVCanada I think it’s been the late 90s since I’ve been to Canada. Went bear hunting a couple times and sure like to get back soon! I just remember the candy bars were 2 to 3 bucks…just about swallowed my 😜 ouch!!! I still have probably 14 bucks Canadian burning a hole in my pocket with a bunch of Looners!
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what dremel coarse paste do you use for the polishing? I just used wenol on the action just to loosen it a bit but it , still breaks hard but I can do a one hand flick with some effort , but I was afraid to go into this much detail.. there is a little bar on the triggers that fell off when I took the stock off to cut the spring down. scared me as I didn't see how it was situated and took forever to get it back in (without that part , both hammers drop at the same time)
The first compound is Black Emery; then that gets followed up with a milder jewelers rouge. Sorry to hear about your luck with that part; these things can be intimidating at first. I once took apart the trigger group on a very complicated rifle and spent hours trying to figure out how it went back together again. Now I take pictures of everything when I start so I have something to refer back to!
@@TATVCanada TY .. almost finished my Diemaco series of builds , waiting on the last bit for my L119A1 then they are all done (Sorry you can't have them up North anymore 😪)
Thanks for doing this video. Nicely done. Have you tried firing the gun since you did this? I did the mod to the spring, but only cut off one coil. Now I get light strikes on the second barrel every time. Some online research indicates the gun may be jarring itself open ever so slightly on the first shot, causing light strikes on the second shot. Curious what your experience is with this mod.
@@Droodog127 yeah it was nice while it lasted. Here's hoping the next PM spends more time reviewing gun stats and less time painting his face.
@@terryhodgson2357 so far, so good. Although several people have warned/recommended replacing the firing pins with custom longer ones made from harder material.
The only part I found odd was the boresnake from the muzzle. Maybe not wanting to spread compound down the rest of the barrel, but disconcerting to see for me.
That’s probably the reason why. And it was also done before the extractor was reinstalled.
I also broke the sharp edge on the chambers
I've talked to a few folks who funneled the chamber mouths. Do you find it makes a substantial difference?
@TATVCanada it may have just been my gun but the chamber edge was really sharp and and i found if the shells weren't perfectly straight the edge would grab the plastic so i deburred them made a difference imo
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Wow it left the factory looking that rough unbelievable. please try to show the rest of the bore if it looked like the Chambers that would be awful, so many nooks for powder residue to hide.
I'll try to in a future video. It's really hard to accurately depict the barrels from the muzzle-end as they're threaded for chokes, which on camera gives the false impression it's rougher than it really is. I'm not sure how to capture a shot below the threading but I'll see what I can come up with.
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Mine came out of the box with a loose forestock
Ironically I think that's the only problem mine didn't have.
once the surfaces have been polished, there is no risk of oxidation?
The surfaces we addressed were already milled/ground so I don't believe it should have much effect. With that said, I apply a generous amount of oil to them regardless; partly for smooth operation, and partly for protection from corrosion.
@@TATVCanada What kind of oil do you use?
@@VAPrepper757 Generally Hoppes.
@@TATVCanada Thanks!
Anybody have any recommendations on the stones?
What specifically? Like manufacturer or where to buy?
@@TATVCanada Manufacturer & Model/Type. Thank you..
I have the same question.
@@sempertard It's been a while since I purchased them, but I believe they were from Brownells or Midway USA. If you search either site for 'India Stones' you will find several. Amazon has a number as well.
@@TATVCanada Thanks
bromide bubby, bromide it will help you arrive at the finer finish faster.
Taking the forend off mine is extremely difficult, is this normal on a new one?
Could be the outside diameter on the mating surfaces is too large, making it a tight fit.
@@TATVCanada thanks for the reply, it is a tight fit, might loosen up over time, I have to push it from the top while holding the lever down with significant pressure. A tight fit might not be a bad thing, just annoying to take apart for storage.
@@MrNiceKnife Something you can try if you like; get a bit of emery paste (it's like a polishing compound) and put just a very thin little coating on the parts that are stiff. Remove/reinstall it a few times, and wash/remove the paste. It will allow you polish the surfaces a bit even if you can't necessary see/determine which ones are at fault. Should help loose things up without removing any metal.
Unless you really need to remove material, Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish will do magic and can save some time.
With that said, man that gun has some ROUGH cast pieces!!!😮
Mothers is fantastic stuff to be sure, but in this case you'd have been polishing until judgement day ha ha.
After this, there will be no safety, correct?
Correct.
You need to replace the factory firing pins with hardened stainless steel ones. The factory ones are soft and will mushroom on you, trust me on this
Interesting; do you have a recommendation for 3rd party pins?
Someone else just brought this up again this evening.
Will this stop the light primer strikes
What brand? Got a link??
@@tamiyatim1389Long Hunter Shooting Supply they have the spanner wrench also to remove firing pins.
I'd heard the worst thing for any gun was the use of a Bore Snake, unless you throw it away after each initial use.
I'm not sure why that would be. Can you provide some background?
@@TATVCanada The dirt and whatnot carries over from gun to gun. Maybe if you could wash it, it might help. Maybe soak it in Dawn, and dry it out?
@@jdsolberg7613 Ah I see what you mean. It's not something I show in the video, but I do actually 'wash' them a few times a year in a wet tumbler (no media) with detergent.
@@TATVCanada I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way. I forget where I saw the reference to the snake, but when they gave their reason for disliking it, it sort of made sense.
Great shotgun by the way. I've got the blued version in 20 gauge and it's definitely a nice gun. Might take your advice on some of the things you did to your's.
Is there a spring in the extractor???? Thought the shells would pop out!!! Come fleung out of the chambers!!!?
🎉flying out!
Nope, no spring assist.
Why did you not show us the rest of the barrels ?
I'm not sure I understand; there are only two?
So you took away the guns safety am I following correctly?
Correct.
cool video. but its lever and Leaver. lol
Mine didn't look that bad inside.
I think it varies from gun to gun. Mine is probably one of the rougher examples.
Flushly 😂
If the Prime Minister can say "Moistly", I can say "Flushly".
Too bad no one makes a shotgun with ejectors anymore.
I think some companies do, but they aren't permitted in most cowboy action competitions.
Ejectors are for field use. Trap, skeet, sporting clays, and cowboy action are all better served by, or require, extractor only.
I AM IMPRESSED. I am not normally impressed. I will only mention that you have two options on the big heavy spring. You clipped the spring. The other option is to make the wire thinner. Chuck it in a drill. Spin and sand/file. In this case, I think I would have clipped one and then thinned the wire.
Thanks very much for your comment, I really appreciate it. I agonized over whether or not to trim or thin it but in this case opted to trim for a couple of reasons. I will absolutely be demonstrating how to thin a spring in an upcoming video specifically addressing the various ways to light leaf and coil springs.
Khyber Pass quality...Rough edges, poor fitting and finishing, cruel machining...Is ''mother'' Beretta listening?
That is where the corners are cut.
You Canadians are still allowed to own guns? I thought Castro Jr. would have taken them all by now.
Oh he's trying; don't you worry there.
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Por más que quieran los AMERICANOS NUNCA PODRAN IGUALAR LAS ARMAS EUROPEAS. tendríamos que hablar durante un largo periodo, y no quiero hacerlo. Simplemente tres cosas primero porque tiene los caños tan cortos? Esgundo no está nada bien ajustado el extractor con respecto a la báscula tiene mucho juego y tercero el ángulo de los telones de cierre es distinto tiene mucho más ángulo el primer telón que apoya en la cara de báscula de cierre que la otra que engancha. ERROR FATAL.
I'm actually Canadian VS American. Regarding the short barrels, I wanted something easy to maneuver in short distance competitions. I don't think your third question translated properly as I'm not following?
У меня в деревне зазоры в заборе меньше.