One mistake Nalen was not a Jedi when he found the fount of Rajivari he was just a force sensitive who was living on tython but he was trained as a Jedi after the padawan stopped him.
Here’s an interesting “what if” scenario: if the forge was destroyed leaving the ancient Jedi weapons and therefore military strength of their order weakened, they probably would have enacted a more peaceful and philosophical approach to the force as far as their efforts to protect and pacify the galaxy. Would it have been crushed? Or, would the remaining Jedi have gone the Qui Gonn route and embraced the living force?
I think he was the earliest version of Ajunta Pall he was misguided though understandable, if in life he return to the Jedi he would have help them saved more of their fallen brothers and sisters. Though if he was suggestful he would greated a different Darkside Order that might have been far worse then the Sith or even the Infinite Empire.
If Yoda trained with the dark side I wonder if he made contact to this force ghost. I'm sure even Yoda could have gained valuable insight from this tragic individual regarding retribution at least.
In my mind he was a great man forced down a dark path . In many ways it would have been better if the Jeti had listened to him more closely . His grey areas of thought held much wisdom
This is very disturbing. It's glad Naylin was stopped. Rajivari was saved and redeemed at the end. Which is very good. He wasn't evil. Not truly. He is good man. This is tragic story. I would like to know more about him.May the Force be with you too always😀
I don’t think you understand his point. Someone who doesn’t understand or care about the reason you showed them mercy, they’re going to just do the same thing again. For the greater good of the universe , you shouldn’t show these dangerous monsters mercy. Obiwan could’ve killed Vader AND Krayt.
this dark jedi seems like he would have been insanely powerful if he had been able to reach more of his goals, a lot of what if situations come to mind.
There's always talk of going to the dark side. And only occasionally do people go the other way? Does the Light side not cleanse the corruption in more? but it's just our nature to focus more on the negative?
It’s more of addiction. It seduces even the best with its power, and it’s intoxicating, invasive, and it takes over thus corrupting the user, and creating the mental disconnection with their old vs new self
Look at it this way, how many people do you know who becomes a monk/priest of certain religions and lives a life without posessions and swears to live a life with celibacy, and how many people live their life freely and acts on their emotions, desires, and ambitions? Thats right its most people, while true like in real life, digging too deep into your desires usually blinds you and corrupts you, and vice versa in star wars, so the dark side can corrupt you in certain ways but those who learns to give in to their emotions but control them and use them rather than having them use you is the most common way of living life.
Scientist no, Sith Alchemist and sorcerers? Yes, most force abilities that has been created or discovered was discovered by Sith (or their Jedi counterparts) who studied and analyzed the force more deeply than their fellow kin, some would never discover anything new but would gain a deeper perspective into the force, while others would be granted visions of how to perform a certain ritual or how to use a certain force abiltiy, while others was granted visions of how to create certain abilities.
According to George Lucas, yeah you are correct. You needed to achieve inner peace to become one, something that is antithetical to the Dark Side's nature... Complete with the opening line of the Sith Code being "Peace is a lie". When Disney breaks the rules, they get the criticism they deserve, but when the Expanded Universe does it they get off Scott free. The bit with Force Ghosts isn't even the only example. Lucas's intended reaction to the prequels is that "the Jedi's stance on romance and attachment is entirely justified. Anakin's refusal to let go caused everything bad that happened in his life." But EU writers and their fans went the exact opposite direction, trying to invent as many reasons why Lucas's thoughts on the prequels are "wrong" by having as many of their character break that rule as many times as they possibly can... Solely because those writers wholeheartedly believe that a romantic hero is inherently better than a chaste one, and that love stories and "power of friendship" plots are inherently better than solo adventure stories.
@@lordnul1708 I have been thinking about how people love to distort Star Wars' original intentions because they hate the idea of a selfless and free hero. It's almost like everyone had to be emotional and unstable to be good and likable
@@davib.franco7857 yeah, that's more or less what I'm saying. The worst part though is that it isn't even unique to Star Wars fans when it comes to "original author's intentions vs audience interpretation". Look at Superman for example. He was THE selfless, free and idealistic hero. Now... Not so much. And then there's Batman, whose whole thing (aside from "I am Vengeance I am the Night") was that he was the most human Superhero DC had to offer... But then he got completely batshit insane (pun intended) to the point of surviving a fall from orbit in JUST the Batsuit.
Nope dark side users can also do this, its easier for Jedi and lightside users but Sith and dark side users can also do it, though they tend to do something slightly different which is becoming more of a lingering spirit than a full on ghost.
It’s not… but does that really change how you feel about this piece of lore? Or is a “Disney” label your only deciding factor in whether you like it or not? Like what you want, hate as you wish. But know this: trash tied up with a pretty bow is still trash, and candy in a paper bag is still candy.
Rajivari
“The path to evil is paved with good intentions.”
A beautiful example of this were Darth Tyrannus and Darth Vader. Also true in real life
@winter3960 .. It's just a play on the old say,"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
@winter3960 .. It's just a play on the old say,"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
@winter3960 .. It's just a play on the old say,"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
@winter3960 .. It's just a play on the old say,"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
the dark side exists in everyone and everything all takes is one bad occurrence that would tip the scale.
Just like when the Joker in his old life went mad after all the bad things that happened to him right?
@@kaidorade1317Essentially yes
Daym, good thing I ain't a jedi then otherwise woulda turned sith several times by now 😂
@@kaidorade1317 possibly
As Joker once said “All it takes is just Onnnne Baaad Day”
One mistake Nalen was not a Jedi when he found the fount of Rajivari he was just a force sensitive who was living on tython but he was trained as a Jedi after the padawan stopped him.
After the Padawan stopped him doing . .
What, exactly?
@@frenzalrhomb6919 From destorying the forge where the order made their lightsabers at the time
So why didn't you use any chips from the Old Republic MMO? Like the conversation with Rajivari, or of the recordings of his students reading his laws?
Naylin wasn't a Jedi, he was a twilik pilgrim who happened to be force sensitive
what's sad is that Rajivari's viewpoint was correct in many regards, even if twisted to the extreme by the traumas of war.
Here’s an interesting “what if” scenario: if the forge was destroyed leaving the ancient Jedi weapons and therefore military strength of their order weakened, they probably would have enacted a more peaceful and philosophical approach to the force as far as their efforts to protect and pacify the galaxy. Would it have been crushed? Or, would the remaining Jedi have gone the Qui Gonn route and embraced the living force?
The best of intentions are almost always corrupted completely.
Fun fact i played this story this morning by playing swtor always nice to hear these stories
"The Padawan". I love it when SWTOR sneaks into the videos
1:44 Omg, Dave Mustane is a Jedi?:D
I think he was the earliest version of Ajunta Pall he was misguided though understandable, if in life he return to the Jedi he would have help them saved more of their fallen brothers and sisters. Though if he was suggestful he would greated a different Darkside Order that might have been far worse then the Sith or even the Infinite Empire.
Thank you for the daily uploads!
I wished we'd gotten more Lore on him, especially his teachings.
I think that this "longer video" format serves you well, my young Apprentice!!
Rajavari was one of the favorite things about the Councilar Story in SWtOR
The Early Jedi would have been victims of the Dark Side as it lure was not well documented at the time.
Yeah. It would be interesting to know more about him. He was unique in the force for sure
Love how Dagan is mentioned especially considering Dagan is the main villain in the new Jedi Survivor game
If Yoda trained with the dark side I wonder if he made contact to this force ghost. I'm sure even Yoda could have gained valuable insight from this tragic individual regarding retribution at least.
Ah yes, Yoda, well known for his love of retribution 😂
In my mind he was a great man forced down a dark path . In many ways it would have been better if the Jeti had listened to him more closely . His grey areas of thought held much wisdom
a great story, i experinced this story in SWTOR many a times.
This is very disturbing. It's glad Naylin was stopped. Rajivari was saved and redeemed at the end. Which is very good. He wasn't evil. Not truly. He is good man. This is tragic story. I would like to know more about him.May the Force be with you too always😀
I love the storytelling format!
I don’t think you understand his point. Someone who doesn’t understand or care about the reason you showed them mercy, they’re going to just do the same thing again. For the greater good of the universe , you shouldn’t show these dangerous monsters mercy. Obiwan could’ve killed Vader AND Krayt.
Always love the great videos, could we get a video
About mauls rise as head of the syndicates and the other syndicates
A merciless person saying mercy leads to cycles of violence
this dark jedi seems like he would have been insanely powerful if he had been able to reach more of his goals, a lot of what if situations come to mind.
Wasn't this one of the Jedi Class missions in SWTOR?
sounds like my kinda guy also he is right scary as that sounds. 8:35
I love hearing about Jedi who go Dark 😊.
10:50 bro wtf is that lightsaber?
There's always talk of going to the dark side. And only occasionally do people go the other way? Does the Light side not cleanse the corruption in more? but it's just our nature to focus more on the negative?
It’s more of addiction. It seduces even the best with its power, and it’s intoxicating, invasive, and it takes over thus corrupting the user, and creating the mental disconnection with their old vs new self
yea , Asajj Ventress, Galen Marek, Darth Revan, Luke Skywalker
Look at it this way, how many people do you know who becomes a monk/priest of certain religions and lives a life without posessions and swears to live a life with celibacy, and how many people live their life freely and acts on their emotions, desires, and ambitions? Thats right its most people, while true like in real life, digging too deep into your desires usually blinds you and corrupts you, and vice versa in star wars, so the dark side can corrupt you in certain ways but those who learns to give in to their emotions but control them and use them rather than having them use you is the most common way of living life.
I’m finally here.
He sounds like Dooku
I don’t think it’s a council if there is only one member
We're there any scientists in the republic or empire who tried to study the Force?
Scientist no, Sith Alchemist and sorcerers? Yes, most force abilities that has been created or discovered was discovered by Sith (or their Jedi counterparts) who studied and analyzed the force more deeply than their fellow kin, some would never discover anything new but would gain a deeper perspective into the force, while others would be granted visions of how to perform a certain ritual or how to use a certain force abiltiy, while others was granted visions of how to create certain abilities.
As the fall of Quiznos Xanatos
I thought only light siders could become force ghosts?
Nope remember when yoda fights that force ghost also their are alot of siths that are force ghost
Lights site users are just more commanly force ghost
According to George Lucas, yeah you are correct. You needed to achieve inner peace to become one, something that is antithetical to the Dark Side's nature... Complete with the opening line of the Sith Code being "Peace is a lie".
When Disney breaks the rules, they get the criticism they deserve, but when the Expanded Universe does it they get off Scott free. The bit with Force Ghosts isn't even the only example.
Lucas's intended reaction to the prequels is that "the Jedi's stance on romance and attachment is entirely justified. Anakin's refusal to let go caused everything bad that happened in his life."
But EU writers and their fans went the exact opposite direction, trying to invent as many reasons why Lucas's thoughts on the prequels are "wrong" by having as many of their character break that rule as many times as they possibly can... Solely because those writers wholeheartedly believe that a romantic hero is inherently better than a chaste one, and that love stories and "power of friendship" plots are inherently better than solo adventure stories.
@@lordnul1708 I have been thinking about how people love to distort Star Wars' original intentions because they hate the idea of a selfless and free hero. It's almost like everyone had to be emotional and unstable to be good and likable
@@davib.franco7857 yeah, that's more or less what I'm saying. The worst part though is that it isn't even unique to Star Wars fans when it comes to "original author's intentions vs audience interpretation". Look at Superman for example. He was THE selfless, free and idealistic hero. Now... Not so much. And then there's Batman, whose whole thing (aside from "I am Vengeance I am the Night") was that he was the most human Superhero DC had to offer... But then he got completely batshit insane (pun intended) to the point of surviving a fall from orbit in JUST the Batsuit.
Nope dark side users can also do this, its easier for Jedi and lightside users but Sith and dark side users can also do it, though they tend to do something slightly different which is becoming more of a lingering spirit than a full on ghost.
Could Anakin be a reincarnation of this guy.
Tulak Hord
Day 473 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Please no Disney star wars poorly written soulless lore
Nope, its old republic lore.
This is from SWTOR. It's technically still EU.
This isn’t Disney lore this is from the old republic which is still considered legends material
It’s not… but does that really change how you feel about this piece of lore? Or is a “Disney” label your only deciding factor in whether you like it or not?
Like what you want, hate as you wish. But know this: trash tied up with a pretty bow is still trash, and candy in a paper bag is still candy.
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