Feel you, bro. I like playing Ultimate at times, but it's not for me. Physics are garbage and some mechanics are insufferable. Glad for those who adapted, but i just can't.
@@jaydenhohman2590 Imo it was a good system. The way you can airdoge and then attack or jump makes the game very dynamic in air movement. And it's not like it was hard to punish either. Fun fact: Playing as C. Falcon. If you jump and airdoge at the same time, you have the perfect timing for a grounded knee.
You know people have complained about Smash Ultimate being super janky from the start. All of them are janky. It may be subjective which one is the most.
I fucking miss smash 4 how buttery and smooth the game was you could do so much cool shit like reverse sliding ftilts and footstool stuff and that was me playing on 3ds, it was a good time
Reverse slide up tilt with fox looked so smooth, I miss that too! Link had some cool slide tech with his bombs too. Bayo killed the good time though lol
I always think of young Tweek having longer hair so it’s disorienting seeing buzz cut young Tweek cause my brain says that’s current Tweek but also baby face
Smash 4 barely has any notable features and feels very soulless. Smash Ultimate feels like what Smash 4 should’ve been. I doubt it will ever end up like its predecessor.
hot take (actually maybe not, maybe cold) smash ultimate is still smash 4, its not a new game its a patch, like how street fighter games had like 3 new game (patches) that had drastic game balance differences. another example i use is dragon ball fighterZ, I would consider its current patch more different from the initial release then smash ultimate is to 4 and fighters is still just considered 1 game
Yeah that's a cold one. Physics were reworked. (Faster in general) every character was rebalanced and made faster. Shield was reworked, grabs were changed, new hitstun and better combos, better movement because of dash dancing. I could go on. That's a bit more than a patch so this makes no sense. Only thing not changed were the graphics and sounds sorta?
@@blackghostcat your idea of a patch just isnt broad enough, the street fighter versions are just as if not more drastically different in all those categories but are still all considered street fighter 2 - edit: also you know waht a hot/cold take is right? hot means its a controversial unpopular opinion. if you dont agree you should say its not, being cold means everyone agrees with me.
@@yurazah sorry I mean bad hot take. But do you understand that all they did with street fighter 2 was increase the speed of the game with no engine adjustments?
Nah ultimate is by far jankier. I can't even play it because of the new buffer system. Smash 4 felt so much smoother in comparison. Brawl is still the worst game in the series though.
@@Sergio-wc1wn I think the balance is about the same. Sure Bayonetta was easily #1, but I think Steve is just as busted only he is harder to play as. The rest of the cast I thought was more balanced than now. Smash ultimate has an even bigger difference in character size and reach and I think that makes it extremely difficult for characters with low reach to even get close enough to hit their opponent.
@@user-jh1ov8cc7m Steve is not even close to as busted as Bayo. Also I disagree with you; almost every character in ultimate except Ganon and maybe Little Mac can top 8 a major in this game currently, while in smash 4 that was nearly impossible.
@@Sergio-wc1wn have you even seen steve's hitstun cancelling, and PMLG recently discovered? If you haven't... you may with to retract your previous statement of utter stupidity. Steve gets one hit and kills you from it, regardless of your DI. Bayonetta gets one hit, and kills you from it, with sometimes a 50/50 to get out of her combo with SDI. sound familiar at all?
Yep smash 4 still the worst. Even 64 have more charm. Brawl have the projectM/+ to remove the jank. Smash 4 have nothing Ps. Melee not need a mention for obvious reasons
you're incorrect, but judging from that you think anything positive about a game where kirby's uptilt is larger than ultimate ganondorf's forward smash... you must be a dumbass? Seems fairly obvious to me.
It just looks and felt so smooth and polished. I loved the size of the roster, it was my favorite thing about it, because when the roster is too large, it's hard to get good against everyone, but when it's too small, not everyone finds their character. I think 4 had the perfect size :3
11:16 Marss really said "You go out on MY terms buddy"
I wish smash 4 still had a competitive scene. The game basically died as soon as ultimate came out. I miss this game so much.
same
i miss smash run :(
It deserved to die.
bruh smash 4 comp would just be everyone playijg baoy
The turbo teabag at the end actually had me in tears
Marss narrating his long-ago sets like an old man reminiscing about the war.... so wholesome
Give the guy his shimmy tierlist already
Give ‘em an inch, and they’ll take a mile
i feel like the fearlessness to run through shields is also a statement about how collision mechanics were different in smash 4 versus ultimate
You should do this more often, I'm such a sucker for smash 4 nostalgia
5:05 not in bracket but a friendly at shine and wow, there has never been a more truthful statement.
I still think about how we really played 2 stocks and still managed to hold up Melee brackets lmao
It's Monday where TF is our monke! Do your jerb
Whatever you do, do NOT check marss set history with tweek in ultimate
No one beats marss 9 times in a row
Next Marss vid: "Why do I play ZSS"
because the world isn't fair
Thanks!
Leave it to Marss to find some kind of way to have unskippable ads
I miss being able to run through your opponent. I've been complaining about pushing the opponent since Ultimate released.
i miss smash4 doubles if it wasnt for cloud smash4 doubles felt so dynamic
Watching marss analyze his sets will never get old. pure gold
If it wasn't for their voices, I wouldn't have recognized TK or EE. Both guys have glowed up like crazy.
I miss smash 4
Imo smash 4 is the best in the series by far. I can't even play the new one with how weird the buffer system is. Smash 4 felt way smoother.
Feel you, bro. I like playing Ultimate at times, but it's not for me. Physics are garbage and some mechanics are insufferable. Glad for those who adapted, but i just can't.
Sm4sh was THE time to play. So chill, Smash YT content was insane during Sm4sh I miss it
@@jaydenhohman2590 Imo it was a good system. The way you can airdoge and then attack or jump makes the game very dynamic in air movement. And it's not like it was hard to punish either.
Fun fact: Playing as C. Falcon. If you jump and airdoge at the same time, you have the perfect timing for a grounded knee.
@@jaydenhohman2590 the air dodges in ultimate are wack because they leave you vulnerable for so long that they are almost unusable.
Shoulda played that Abadango set. Nair footstool down B looked crazy af at the time
Smash 4's kirby air dodge was so perfect 😭
Isn’t it the same as brawls?
@@PoyoDreamer much faster
Day 79 of protesting for a shimmy tier list.
I believe in your cause
Hold strong soldier 🫡
You’re doing god’s work brother
Day 79 of protesting for you to get a job
@@TheLyonzDen9450 lol
I feel like I’m the only one who misses the extra game modes that were in 4
You know people have complained about Smash Ultimate being super janky from the start. All of them are janky. It may be subjective which one is the most.
Smash 4 : Player gets his - Crowd goes wild.
Marss will change in a lot of ways over the course of his life but he will always be funny
marss super smash bros
I miss crossing up shields so bad…
Hearing Marss and Jersey in the same sentence explains so much
1:37 the first shimmy?
This isn't Monke Monday....
1:00 Another♿Worst♿Worst♿
9:28 Feel good
Suprised we didnt see marss and pugwest combos in here, they were the first super sick doubles team
marss light smash 4 doubles was absolute degen lmao
4 > Ult
I fucking miss smash 4 how buttery and smooth the game was
you could do so much cool shit like reverse sliding ftilts and footstool stuff
and that was me playing on 3ds, it was a good time
Reverse slide up tilt with fox looked so smooth, I miss that too! Link had some cool slide tech with his bombs too. Bayo killed the good time though lol
@@LuisGonzalez0505
I never got the dlc for smash 4 or played comp back then but yeah
10:53 that game was soo good
Amazing video
honestly i miss being able to run through opponents, thats a change in ultimate i dont like
That even Worse @Marss & Cloud
Nah 11:15 is disrespectful AF 🤣🤣🤣
U gotta do a vid like this for your doubles Lucario
this game's knockback physics were soooo dumb lmao
hadn’t thought about how much fun the game is when there’s no bodyblocking. if they’re just doing nothing then just run through em lol.
Glad to see she went from trash in Smash 4 to garbage girl in Ultimate
I'm so good at smash 4 I pick mario and do down throw up tilt up tilt up tilt up tilt up tilt and then do an up air combo and win
I wish I knew about competitive Smash 4 because this Marss was like 10x more toxic 😂
Uhm ackchyually you uploaded at 1:59 not 2:00
Sm4sh dubs was beautiful
More smash 4 origins plz
I’m insulted marss called sephiroth dlc
Smash 4 more like...
Idk I got nothing
Smass 4
Smash 4 mars was absolutely UNHINGED
I always think of young Tweek having longer hair so it’s disorienting seeing buzz cut young Tweek cause my brain says that’s current Tweek but also baby face
11:54 fax
TK and EE should do the BOdied thing again lol
Up air combos into itself never before seen mario:am I a joke to you
Marss sounds mad at Tweek for losing half the time 😂
Wait, why was Smash 4 Doubles 3 stock?
Knockback was so weird looking in Smash 4. It looks like they're in witch time and flying away in slow motion 💀
Remember when brawl was a goofy game with tripping
Wait for Ultimate to end up like Smash 4 when the next Smash game comes out where everyone suddenly hates it
everyone already hates ultimate
@@rixenoshivaz nobody hates smash more than smash players lol
@@wolfdragox5563 I play king of fighters. I hate ultimate. 😂
Smash 4 barely has any notable features and feels very soulless. Smash Ultimate feels like what Smash 4 should’ve been. I doubt it will ever end up like its predecessor.
Go back to Frostbite 2017, best tournament in my opinion
I really think this is the worst one. I hate down throw up air.
You say Tweek plays dlc bs when he plays one of the worst dlc characters
You on the duolingo or what never seen you speak this much Spanish lol
I know alpharad said to void to brush up on sm4sh for a content thing he's planning do this analysis might come in handy
S4 has Better matches Than Ultimate Worse Worse Cloud Btw Yes
W game
hot take (actually maybe not, maybe cold) smash ultimate is still smash 4, its not a new game its a patch, like how street fighter games had like 3 new game (patches) that had drastic game balance differences. another example i use is dragon ball fighterZ, I would consider its current patch more different from the initial release then smash ultimate is to 4 and fighters is still just considered 1 game
brainless take
Yeah that's a cold one. Physics were reworked. (Faster in general) every character was rebalanced and made faster. Shield was reworked, grabs were changed, new hitstun and better combos, better movement because of dash dancing. I could go on. That's a bit more than a patch so this makes no sense.
Only thing not changed were the graphics and sounds sorta?
@@blackghostcat your idea of a patch just isnt broad enough, the street fighter versions are just as if not more drastically different in all those categories but are still all considered street fighter 2 - edit: also you know waht a hot/cold take is right? hot means its a controversial unpopular opinion. if you dont agree you should say its not, being cold means everyone agrees with me.
@@yurazah sorry I mean bad hot take. But do you understand that all they did with street fighter 2 was increase the speed of the game with no engine adjustments?
@@blackghostcat SF2 was radically different with each version, yet still the same. It’s hard to describe but CE is not nearly the same as HF or WW.
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Nah ultimate is by far jankier. I can't even play it because of the new buffer system. Smash 4 felt so much smoother in comparison. Brawl is still the worst game in the series though.
You can say anything about ultimate movement not being the best but Smash 4 is easily more janky and unbalanced than smash ultimate.
@@Sergio-wc1wn I think the balance is about the same. Sure Bayonetta was easily #1, but I think Steve is just as busted only he is harder to play as. The rest of the cast I thought was more balanced than now. Smash ultimate has an even bigger difference in character size and reach and I think that makes it extremely difficult for characters with low reach to even get close enough to hit their opponent.
Unnecessary brawl hate 💀
@@user-jh1ov8cc7m Steve is not even close to as busted as Bayo. Also I disagree with you; almost every character in ultimate except Ganon and maybe Little Mac can top 8 a major in this game currently, while in smash 4 that was nearly impossible.
@@Sergio-wc1wn have you even seen steve's hitstun cancelling, and PMLG recently discovered? If you haven't... you may with to retract your previous statement of utter stupidity. Steve gets one hit and kills you from it, regardless of your DI. Bayonetta gets one hit, and kills you from it, with sometimes a 50/50 to get out of her combo with SDI.
sound familiar at all?
Disgusting behavior
You made me remember why i like Smash 4 better. Ultimate is so fucking garbage.
nah, melee was worst
This video is just proof that Marss isn't actually good at the game, but the luckiest player of all time
Pretty whatever content I won’t be subscribing
remove rage, bayo and cloud and smash 4 is better than ult
Firfst
First
too bad tweek's miles ahead of you now *yawn
Yep smash 4 still the worst. Even 64 have more charm. Brawl have the projectM/+ to remove the jank. Smash 4 have nothing
Ps. Melee not need a mention for obvious reasons
Project M DOESN"T COUNT
Melee god-tier 😤😩
you're incorrect, but judging from that you think anything positive about a game where kirby's uptilt is larger than ultimate ganondorf's forward smash... you must be a dumbass? Seems fairly obvious to me.
melees the worst game dont @ me
@@rixenoshivaz @
Man I fucking love smash 4
It's was such a cool looking and stylish game
It just looks and felt so smooth and polished. I loved the size of the roster, it was my favorite thing about it, because when the roster is too large, it's hard to get good against everyone, but when it's too small, not everyone finds their character. I think 4 had the perfect size :3
More funny smash 4 please