Thank god for pira see. Without that, so many things would not be preserved today. So many video games so many shows and movies. so many software. If there wasn’t Pira see a very high percent of old movies or shows would not be available today at all.
Another thing I worry about with all things going digital is that they will stop releasing all the extras that they include on Blu-Ray and DVD. Behind the scenes, director's comments, alternate versions of the films, deleted scenes, etc. These are great not only for just movie buffs, but for people learning about film making.
Yeah, but if they stop making Blu-Ray and other physical media, they might not bother even producing extra content. Not only is that bad for the fans, it deprives future film makers from a wonderful source of learning about the industry.@@mogdor
I have a massive collection of dvds and blue rays. I've been collecting for 16 years. For a movie to be in my collection, I would have to see it and like it. I am very proud of my collection.
Same here. I'm collecting all my favorite shows and movies on blu ray and dvd. Not even just those in also collecting CDs, books, board games. I'm collecting all my favorites on physical
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Why would you still by DVDs? Standard definition looks terrible on an HDTV or 4KTV. Unless they never released that title in 4k or blu-ray, there's no way I would buy a DVD. The cost difference isn't that much.
I worked with Disney during the HD-DVD/Blu-ray "war". This time was also the beginnings of digital media. Studios do lose things. Disney lost the digitally archived box artwork for well over 2000 releases when it migrated to a different database. One on the projects my team was assigned was to reach out to online retailers and pull the best quality image we could find to put back into the database. Also, universal studios had a large fire on their back lot that destroyed some digital archives and film masters among other things.
@kavasir7042 yes. I think Disney just about invented the "limited release". But there is a secure location where they keep the masters of all their classics.
I bought the Blade Runner collector's edition that comes with the silver briefcase on both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray before the format war got settled. I hadn't even bought a player yet. I was such a big fan, I wanted to make sure it didn't sell out and I had it on whichever format won. I ended up selling the HD-DVD version when Blu-Ray won out. I wish I had kept it, now that I'm looking back. It would have been a cool piece of history to have in my collection. Of course, I still have the Blu-Ray version.
Preach my dude, when my dad passed I saved all his DVDs and he had at least 500. There is something so much more enjoyable about popping the disc in and watching a film, I'm never changing that.
It's actually an important part of the experience, in my opinion. I remember being so excited to go to the local video store and rent a new movie on a Friday night. I feel bad for kids raised on Netflix that will never get to have that experience.
@@kesamek8537 You may not, but you can give people your hard disk drive full of music that, as long as it's not corrupted or broken, you can easily give it to someone without internet connection. You just have to put it in a brand new itunes library that doesn't have your account hooked up to it.
I totally agree with you. In 2015 when some people helped me move, they teased me about all of my DVDs by asking "Have you ever heard of streaming?". I responded that a lot of my DVDs are not available on streaming, and even if they are available, they can disappear with little-to-no warning. Same with e-books: I read an article maybe 10 years ago about someone whose e-books disappeared from their accounts because the seller decided (for whatever reason) that they wanted to take them back. I always prefer a hard-copy because then no one can take it away from me.
Even if they do not disappear they may have been digitally altered. Both books and movies are being edited to remove or change content that may "offend". Nothing is considered off limits ESPECIALLY classics. Unless you've read or seen the original how would you even know?
Well, we don't need to go back in time - Sony just recently (on 6th of December 2023) deleted over 1000 series of film or in other word more than 10.000 films from its library and therefore from the library of its customers - with - you guessed it - no refunds. So yes - if one really likes a movie - he/she should buy a physical copy of it.
The problem with this is: if you have to explain it, THEY' WON'T UNDERSTAND IT. Those who would, already know. Everybody else DOESN'T CARE, and never will.
I bought Northern Exposure series on DVD. I am watching the series on Amazon Prime at the moment and they deleted a scene where Maurice mentioned something about questioning Roslyn and Cicely being lesbians. I guess somebody got offended....
I noticed I couldn’t find Cocoon a few years ago when I wanted to watch it for the first time in years. It wasn’t a big deal though, I just went to the standard pirate websites and got a version of it easily. In a case like this where there is literally no legal option I don’t feel at all guilty.
I stopped giving these criminal corporations my money and I don't listen to criminal governments. I and everyone is told that we are not allowed to do what we want with our own property. Don't know if you are old enough to remember but DVDs used to come with a second disc which had a digital copy of the movie you bought and you were encouraged to upload it to your computer or lap top, so you could watch it whenever and however you wanted to. The criminal government says you can physically lend your copy of the film to whomever you want and as many people you want but if you do that "Digitally" you are now breaking the law !? GFY !!!!!!!! I will do what I want with my own property that I bought and paid for, F U ! For those idiots who think that the governments and corporations aren't all criminals, just look at what Sony is doing on Dec. 31st. They are stealing everyone's bought and paid for content and will be erasing or removing all the content that they sold to Discovery, that you bought and paid for and the reason they are giving is that you weren't buying the content, you were buying a license to view the content. Well if that were true, then again, they stole from every customer. Netflix sells you a license in the form of a subscription which allows you to watch everything on their platform, so why was Sony charging their customers a license or subscription fee for every single thing they wanted. Shouldn't it have been a one time or monthly subscription and not a license fee for each individual movie or TV show ? This will finally lead to more and more people, ignoring so called "Laws" made up by criminal governments to protect criminal corporations. Just like this platform, Shyte Tube's attempt to force people to watch adds or pay for add free services as just resulted in add blockers finding work arounds and people who had never heard of add blockers, now installing them in droves !!! I have been banned from commenting for 24 hrs, which is illegal ! Shyte tube is taking away people's right to free speech and that ban also comes with a threat, which is also illegal. Threatening people is illegal and the ban comes with a threat that if this continues they will delete my channel. Of course since I don't make videos and don't make them money, they threaten and ban me but some cunt like SSSniper (cunt) Wolf gets nothing for months and months after DOXING an other creator and when the public outrage and all the tweets and videos on Shyte Tube condonning them, what did they do ? Delete her channel and block her from ever being able to abuse other people ? NO ! The suspended her channel for 6 months and after that she will be allowed to post more shit videos that little cucked boys and dumb cunts like her watch and support because she has a few million subs that generate millions of dollars for Shyte Tube and I haven't even mentioned that in some of the videos against the cunt show that her entire channel was stolen from someone else and that she actually didn't only steal the idea for her channel, she actually stole the persona of this one girl in particular. This cunt stole the identity/persona of an other YT creator, her mannerisms the way she dresses and does her make up and her content and what the channel is about. There is nothing real about SSSniper Wolf Cunt but Shyt Tube will do nothing to her because the cunt makes them cash, plus, look at all the creators who either don't make Shyt Tube money that got canceled and their channel deleted and even those who made lots of money for them because they got to put a thousand adds on their 5 or 10 minut videos got canceled and their channels deleted because they were making videos that went against "THE MESSAGE" Sorry for the rant but in closing. I stopped giving these criminal governments and corporations my money, cut the cord (cable) years ago and as far as I am concerned, I pay my internet provider bill every month and that gives me the right to watch or download anything and everything I find on the internet, which means I paid for all of it !!!! I don't care what a criminal government that is above the very laws they say the rest of us have to follow, again I say FFFFF UUUU !!!!! Edit, sorry, had to add that I am talking about both Republicunt and Democrap governments when I say criminal governments. They are the same, they both act the same and try to convert and if not then they will cancel or kill you if you go against "THE MESSAGE" the only difference is what their message is. The evangelical, terrorist, Republicunts are all about racism and sexism and only rich white men should have all the power and money, where as the Democraps are all about Femanazi, man hating, sexist, racist, narcissists who think and believe that only women should have all the power, money and control everything !!!
@@timtrek Yes. But the point is, in the future, don't doubt that that might change. All it takes is a few tweaks from Google or a change in the law to make those hosting content responsible for what is posted, and even those 0.3 second pirate websites will be gone.
People that SAY. Piratebay will go away. Are the same people who think they can regulate cryto out of existance... You CANT STOP A PEER TO PEER NETWORK.. You can stop the indexing sites.. but all that will do it make them hidden on the surface web. Make them on tor/i2p or people will integrate the search engine into the torrent search browser
Movies, TV shows too, that are almost impossible to find these days are why I'm always grateful to those who can upload they're old VHS recordings of all these vintages on RUclips. Cocoon is always a most important sci-fi movie thanks to all the obvious issues that it addresses. As a reminder of what we must always find the best ways to preserve for future generations, the kinds of movies that may subjectively hold up for audiences in ways that even the big mainstream movies today may not can most especially qualify. So thank you very much, Chris, for this quite timely video.
This happened to me when I downloaded the album "Vinnie Vincent Invasion: Invasion" on iTunes. Even though I paid for the album, recently it disappeared from my library and the store. This cannot happen to all the CDs I still have from the 90s. Be aware that even if you pay for something that is digital, it can still be taken from you.
That's insane. Sony did this this week with movies on their PlayStation Network. You paid for it yet you still lose access? Thst should absolutely be illegal.
@buddhafett2213 no it isn't. Read your terms and conditions - you'll see you only pay for temporary access to a digital file which can be revoked at any time.
@@thelasthandbook6704 if anything it added to it. But at least if you have it on something physical, whether it’s a dvd, even from another region, or even on a hard drive, it means you know you at least have a way of watching it.
@@thelasthandbook6704 Region locking was about being able to set different price for each region. $15 might be change in the industrialized countries but days salary in many other places. They want to still sell as many copies they can, but not dilute the price where you can get more.
@@n00blamer Interesting. I did not know that was the reason behind it. Still, the EU--UK-US disparity is hardly worth mentioning, one would think, even if this did somehow make sense outside the first world.
A few weeks ago I happened to found one single copy of Cocoon at a Newbury Comics, a new copy that hasn't been opened yet and yet it was an old edition, having all three stickers on the cover keeping it sealed. I've been buying DVDs for many years now and I ain't gonna stop now.
I was living in St. Petersburg FL at the time they were filming Cocoon. I was at the time unemployed as I had just been fired a week before they were setting up near me. They had a casting call for extras so I went down to check it out. They signed me up and I spent two days just sitting on bleachers in the exact same spot wearing the exact same clothes for the shuffleboard scene. You can see me for about a second though not the part of me that counts. The view of me is obstructed by a post so you can only see my arm and shoulder and part of my back. Grrr lol. I was so disappointed when I saw the movie but at least I made $100 out of it and very briefly met Ron Howard who as it happens is a really nice person in person.
This is exactly what I have said to so many people. Purchasing movies, music, and video games physically literally means you OWN them. I have a huge collection of DVD’s, Blu-ray’s, CD’s, Video Games, Cassette’s, and VHS’s. Most of them are part of my father’s collection and they still run perfectly fine.
Games, I don't really care anymore. There's so few I will replay. But my wife hates our still continually growing 4k/BD/DVD collection. I have shelves and shelves in my office, and a stack of boxes in a closet. I just bought Oppenheimer in 4k, worth it.
I like blurays, if I can get them for a good price. To a certain point, I think its a good idea to buy the movies you like on bluray and to avoid streaming like the plague. However, I do not buy 4k blurays since they cannot be read by a computer drive. However, at a certain point you have to understand that practically everything goes down in value over time! So it's not worth becoming a huge hoarder of blurays and dvds, beyond the ones that you like and can obtain very cheaply.
At least as long as your DVD drive is working and can read those discs, because it becomes harder and harder every year to buy a new DVD drive. Also the media deteriorate with time depending on the technology they've been produced with. The pressed DVDs might be durable. But with DVD-Rs or DVD-RWs it is often the case that the medium is just some photosensitive material that decomposes with time and the medium becomes unable to read. Many of my own archived DVD-Rs are no longer readable after 10 or 15 years despite keeping them in good conditions and their surface not being scratched or anything :q I keep wondering what technology could I use these days for my archived data and backups to make it last more than 10 years :q
@@smstnitc Sounds like you need to leave your wife bud. I guarantee you she will get rid of that collection the second you go away for more than a few days
Physical Media is important. DVD, Blu Ray and Video Games as well. Having a disc and actually owning something is important. They can take away anything online and on streaming. Ownership and physical media needs to always be around.
As much as I like having a physical disk or cartridge, eventually the hardware that is required to view them will fail and will get increasingly difficult to repair or replace
@@VEC7ORlt Especially those who archive and download content from the Wii Shop Channel/ISOs/ROMs/Torrent files that include movies, music, tv shows, etc. that are always readily available to download so long as you have stable internet connection and such to download them for offline use.
Thank you for putting this out, it's so important to have physical media.. .. However to give credit to streaming, it's a great option but it should ALWAYS be an option!
In the last few months I got into a hobby of buying DVDs at thrift stores, archiving the original disc images, and making a converted version in a modern playback format. Occasionally I come across DVDs that are still in sealed packaging. It's surprisingly common for these sealed, never touched DVDs to be unreadable. Usually the errors pop up on the 2nd layer of the recording. Single layer disks are more reliable. Out of hundreds of DVDs I've come across only 2 "DVD-18" discs - a rare disc type that is both double sided *and* double layer, so their total capacity is 18GB. Both were faulty. I built up a pile of sealed DVDs that I didn't bother imaging for a while. Being sealed, I assumed they were fine and I mentally checked them off my shopping list. When I finally opened them and worked through that pile, I started to think I have worse luck with sealed DVDs than I do with used ones. It makes me think that excess unsold DVDs are stored badly, causing many of them to be ruined before they finally got donated to the thrift stores where I bought them. This is in Florida - so it might be outdoor humidity exposure or it might be heat. Both are bad for optical discs. The good thing about used DVDs is they have probably lived their life indoors.
Cocoon is still occasionally made available to TV stations in countries with blanket music clearance agreements. It's probably just too expensive to make it widely available. When Netflix licensed the first two seasons of Peaky Blinders it was too expensive to get much of the music that was used on the BBC cleared for streaming so it licensed different music for the platform. These issues are very common. Only last month the BBC wanted to make available the first story of Doctor Who for the show's 60th anniversary but it was blocked by the son of one of the story's writers because no streaming agreement on the BBC had been negotiated with the writer's estate. Unravelling rights issues can be time consuming, expensive and sometimes impossible. There are even films made in the last 30 years for which no one knows who currently owns the rights to and are effectively dead when it comes to streaming or physical media.
The writer's son should be ashamed of himself. His father was paid for his work. Now, his SON wants money, for work his father did and was paid for decades ago? Screw him. We'll just pirate it and he'll get nothing. Get your own job, sonny boy.
Buy physical media, and then rip it to keep it in digital format. The annoying thing with DVDs and Blu rays are all the warnings about downloading and piracy and copyright you're forced to watch before you can enjoy your movie.
It is in a digital format on DVD and Blu-ray; it's more a transformation. The only thing you're doing when ripping is decrypting it, possibly compressing, maybe putting into a new container (mp4, etc).
I have been collecting DVD's and Blue rays for a while, and recently started collecting CD's as well. Not just for the physical ownership of the media but because as a film lover all the special features are what I love.
When Alien was first replaced as a deluxe box set with the first three sequels, it cam with some VERY interesting extras, including an 'Isolated soundtrack' This was basically whatever raw sound was captured at the time of principal photography for each foot made the final cut. This is absolutely fascinating if you are interested in film production, because Alien was DEFINITELY a movie that was MADE in post production, whatever the actors felt about the set design.
I have owned No Escape for many years on DVD. I love that movie. Sony and Discovery has shown people why physical media is important, Amazon did it a while ago as well with some books if I remember correctly, and unless some sort of lawsuit gets through to challenge or cause change with copyright law, it is going to remain this way for a while.
You're messing with my head. I had no idea he was that age at the time. Looking Brimley up on Wikipedia, he was only 50 years old when Cocoon came out. He was born in September of 1934; Cocoon came out in June of 1985. I remember seeing Cocoon in theaters. At the time, I thought he must have been in his 70s. I mean, I'm turning 50 in two months, and I don't look that old, don't feel that old, don't talk that old, at least I think. Or, maybe I do, and just don't notice it. Yes, I understand he was wearing make-up, but even in the movie The Thing, from 1982, it looks like he's in his late 60s at the very least. It reminds me of Carroll O'Connor in All in the Family. When that series premiered in 1971, Carroll O'Connor was only 47 years old. I think the Archie Bunker character was supposed to be in his late 40s at the start of the series. But it looked like O'Connor and his character were in their late 60s.
Completely agree with this. I still have old DVD's, Blu Ray's, select 4K's and still have all my original music CD's. Like you said, digital copies are just rentals. Plus I like to watch a movie when I want to watch it. Not search through several streaming services only to find out it's not available. I hate that.
Isn't it funny how the streamers charge extra for what you want to see? It's nice to just pull out the DVD. If I want to see something I buy the DVD or BR and wait a couple days. I prefer BR but DVD is fine. TBH I can't tell that big of a difference if I like what I'm watching.
I couldn't stop seeing this film running on TV up until I was way into my 20's! Every channel seemed to be taking turns running it every single public holiday and/or holiday season! I would've never thought for a fraction of a moment back then that I'd live too see the day where that film would be hard to see.
It’s not. There seven copies under $20 on eBay. In fact most of them between 10 and $13. There are some that are brand new close to $20. In case you haven’t noticed, so-called influencers make content that make people want to watch them not because it’s true. And if you think this person isn’t an influencer, then why are they influencing your opinion about a topic.
There is a group of films that even won Oscars that are impossible to get, for example, The Piano with Anna Paquin, and The English Patient. The problem with optical media is that oxygen oxidizes them and eventually destroys them, I have CDs that I originally bought in the 80's that are now unusable. Personally, I have a hard drive with the movies I love and acquire them as much as possible.
I started buying a lot movies, TV show and documentaries on DVD and Blu ray a few years back. This all started when talk began about canceling certain movies because of their content. I make my own digital copies and use EMBY to play them. Best decision I ever made. Have my own personal steaming service.
This is exactly why I have my blu-ray collection. One of the most important pieces in it is a blu-ray copy of Dogma, which is a notoriously difficult movie to find on DVD let alone BR. To make it even more special, my wife and I got Jason Muse to sign it when we saw him at a comedy club a few years ago.
Another gret film. When I first saw it, i nearly turned it off thinking it was some pro religious film. I nearly did the same with Super too (ellen page was hot before deciding it/they/🤢🤮 wanted a gender change), seriously under-rated film "shut up crime!" 😂
My family makes fun of me about my physical media. But I collect specifically for the reasons you mentioned. But also if came quite handy too. During a bad storm and power outage. Internet was down and the family freaking out. I had my portable blu-ray player and was happy.
@@marklola12 He mentioned a portable blu-ray player. Usually they either run on an internal battery, or an external low voltage supply (12v usually as they're generally intended for travel use) which is easy enough to hook up via USB powerbanks or a car battery/portable supply that a lot of people have in the garage. I've been extremely greatfull for physical media in the past when my internet has gone down for several days. I have a laptop and an external BD drive that would do the same job.
One example i always use to explain why i have blurays/dvds is Alex Rider. Alex Rider was an Amazon Original show. Yet now, in the UK at least, it's not available on prime anymore. If an Amazon original show can go off Amazon. Anything can go off anything. Even if something is available on streaming. It could go away at any point.
Blu-ray, DVD, and VHS version of Cocoon are all available at Amazon Germany, all in stock. You can even choose between different versions (standard, extended, UK import, French import, etc.) Seems to be a US-only problem.
It's down to titles so yes you can find Cocoon today but I'm sure many Germans can give examples like Cocoon in Germany. I do suspect though rights issues maybe more complicated in English speaking countries as they demand more money for titles. I'd say if you can, buy your fave movies and TV shows, especially the more niche titles, that won't be mass produced.
Weird, I watched Cocoon and The Abyss not too long ago on some streaming service, I'm not sure which. Also I saw Cocoon way back when in the theater but I never knew there was a sequel.
I wish more people detailed issues like this. I've been a collector of rare records since the 1980s. I DJed later on so that only increased my collecting. I've also liked buying stuff I want and keeping it - which is why when I built my first computer in the 1970s, I never sold any of the games and future consoles and computers I bought. I still enjoy going back to them so I never could bear to part with them. With the record collecting, I learned a lot about releases - why some things were rare, why some things were hard to find, and why some things were deliberately in small supply. I kind of assumed that some things just didn't sell and that was it. But no, there's licencing issues, mistakes, mispressings, legal disputes, scandals, diverse changes in tastes and so on that affect thigns greatly. For example, you can easily find any Beatles record anywhere. They're more pricey nowadays (for anything before the remasters of the last twenty years) but the simple reason is that these records never left print. They've always been available in one pressing or another - never deleted. A friend of mine back in the 1980s used to own a video library. In fact he was one of the first in Britain. He told me many times of what a headache it was then to stock videos as every single week some company would go under or there'd be some legal dispute about copyright and he'd have to remove perfectly good VHSes from rental. Or the censors revisited some title and decided to cut something and again it needed removing and he'd have to buy the film AGAIN. He gave me a few copies of films he couldn't do anything with. I think it was something like Friday the 13th where he'd had about 7 different copies of that, all unusable. Frankly anyone collecting really NEEDS to at least moderately understand the business side of what they're collecting whther it might seem drab. Because if you understand it you can not only savour and pick up stuff (or keep) things that are likely to disappear, but you can clean up at buying certain things. Thanks to these insights, I've managed to amass quite a lot of rare shit in games and records for bugger all money.
The Drew Carey show is impossible to find because of music licensing issues. One of the best comedy shows of the 90's in the US. Totally smoked because of the music used. Never got a VHS or DVD release, it only exists on tapes people made themselves from the TV set.
@@Alconium Great example. I'm not familiar with it, but isn't that a really good point? That a whole series of shows lasting hours is tanked because of the licencing on the music? It demonstrates how much of a house of cards this can be.
@@Alconium Weird I was just thinking recently about whatever happened to Drew Carey, which got me thinking about his show too. I remember my parents watching it when I was a kid and them getting a kick out of it. Ive always wondered why it didnt pop up on retail shelves or recommended buy lists over the years like so many other shows of the era. Thanks for the info.
Great points. I think there will always be people who want physical media, and people who prefer streaming exclusively. I was trying to explain to a friend all the reasons (like extras and commentary tracks) that I still buy blu rays, and he replied: “I think you care about movies more than I do.”
The Tales from the Crypt TV series is another prime example. Even though it originally aired on HBO, they never actually owned the rights to the series and the licensing for it has pretty much been up in the air since the advent of streaming. It's some of the best anthology horror out there, and only those with the physical boxset from back in the day are able to enjoy it now
all over the world...at the same time? i never really liked this movie, as a kid i found it creepy, as an adult, sad. besides after i saw the Twilight Zone episode that predates it.....anyway, i suppose you're a Ron Howard fanatic?
Yeah, I've thinking about that. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to buy an extra Blu-Ray or two and keep them on standby in case my current one breaks down.
I'm seeing VCRs on sale on Amazon. Most them are labeled as "renewed". I guess they mean refurbished. Some Laser Disc players but they appear to be used. @@albusplaustrum06
You can always rip all of your stuff to video files, but that is, of course, time consuming, and storage can become a problem, especially for HD and 4K movies.
@@albusplaustrum06Funai, the world's last manufacturer of VCRs ,sold their final units back in 2016. This was because worldwide sales had dropped to 750, 000. Pioneer sold their final laser disc players back in 2009.
It took me seeing this video to realize it’s true, I haven’t seen Cocoon in decades. That movie used to be so popular they would play it on tv almost weekly. It was so often I got sick of it. Now it’s totally disappeared
Having physical copies of anything helped out when I hadn't had internet for a month during the summer. Turned to watching every dvd we had collected that was scattered about the house. It saved my sanity when there wasn't anything to do outdoors or mindlessly play video games.
@@karlhendrikse I said mindlessly play video games. Not play mindless video games. I know true and well that they both can be mindless. I'll get a change of pace from M I N D L E S S L Y playing the same games I've played before and know the story of.
One movie that comes to mind is Steven Spielberg's "Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I remember when Close Encounters of the Third Kind was first released in theaters and then on HBO and on VHS and all you could get was the theatrical version. Then a few years later they released "The Special Edition". After a while you could not find the original theatrical version anywhere. The Special Edition was all you could find. Then move forward a couple decades and the original theatrical version finally made it's reappearance along with a new director's cut called "The Collector's Edition". Spielberg's Collector's Edition didn't have the final ship's interior scene which was added in for the Special Edition. Finally in 2007, a 30th Anniversary Blu_Ray version was released with all 3 versions, and in 2017 a 4K version with all 3 versions came out. I remember in 2005, while cleaning out my father's house after he passed away, I found a VHS version of the Special Edition. I was thrilled!!! Now I know there are some film buff's out there who hate anything that's not the original theatrical versions of films, but I loved the Special Edition. Spielberg said he didn't want to include the deleted scenes of Richard Dryfuss walking into and gawking at the wonderous vast interior of the mothership, but I look at it this way. Spielberg spent the money to film that scene. Model makers had made the interior of the mothership, (no CGI at the time), and paid carpenters, grips, LD's, photogs and the actors to film those scenes and the studio insisted that Spielberg include the final scene when they fronted Spielberg $1.5 million to edit the Special Edition.
It's great that he allowed all three cuts to be on the collector's release, other films like Blade Runner have done the same and apart from honoring the work of those involved it's a fascinating exercise in understanding how editing affects a movie to have all of them watchable. I think Spielberg feels embarassed by the ET "special edition", probably because of the walkie talkies moment, but I honestly got a kick out of seeing the bonus scenes and wish they would reissue that version alongside the original theatrical someday.
I completely agree with the message of this video. I'm not a big fan of Cocoon, I saw it once a long time ago. I didn't dislike it, but I never felt the need to watch it again. But if I ever do get the urge to watch it, or some other movie or a TV show I think it's incredibly important for physical copies to be available. For fans of the movie I hope there is a 4k release of Cocoon. Keep physical media alive.
This is why I keep my DVDs & Blu-rays. I will make a copy to put on a media server so I can watch them whenever & wherever. Also, this makes it easy for me to check while at a store if I already have a copy of the video or not. Be it a TV show or movie.
Proud to say I own a blu-ray version of Cocoon and some other hard to find movies, but there's still a few movies I can't get a hold of. One example on top of my head is Mask with Cher and Eric Stoltz. I do own the DVD but that movie is nowhere to be found.
This is the reason I purchase Movies & TV Shows physically and then I rip them and compress them for my media server. Right now I am trying to find a TV Show that I don't believe ever was released on DVD/Blu Ray called The Misadventures of Sheriff Lobo (Then shortened to Sheriff Lobo).
Physical copies will always be best for many reasons. They often have special features that you can’t get from streaming sites. And remember DVD Easter eggs? I used to LOVE getting a new DVD and searching all the menus for hidden gems!
Some easter eggs are rubbish. Special Skynet Edition T2... but you need to enter the date of "judgement day" and unlock with remote control, to view the actual judgement day, uncut, extended version with the deleted scenes reinstated. Pirate it... that version is just there no messing about.
You raise very good points about the value of physical media. I too like different versions. My laserdisc version of Star Wars may still come in handy. Some of George Lucas's improvements really annoy me. The new version has the Millennium Falcon taking off by rising up, then zooming away. I prefer the simplicity of the original straight-line escape into space. On a practical note, I like the disc extras plus the ease of subtitles and FF/rewind with discs.
I have the Star Wars Trilogy Definitive Collection on LaserDisc the THX box set. I put it on layaway at the video store in the mall I worked at while going to school. It was $250.00 in 1993. The Box, book, and all the disc are still like new.
@nater86zx it would actually be easier to copy the laserdiscs since those are easier to find in widescreen and have absolutely zero copy protection. Or find the 2006 dvd that's basically the 1993 boxset Unless you're really attached to your personal vhs set.
@@Knightmessenger Haha no I'm not attached to them on a personal level. I don't have a laserdisc player so I'll look for the 2006 trilogy set. Thank You!
I also have the 2006 DVD sets with the original versions, but remember that they were designed to be played on tube TVs in letterbox format, with black bars above and below. The video squished into the middle does not have good resolution. (Edit: my video would look better had I used S-video).
I’ve long had a soft spot for Cocoon since I saw it in the cinema aged 14 back in the day… It’s absolutely true what you say about physical media. Hopefully people will realise this and return to buying BluRay - as well as CD’s etc.
I had a similar problem with The Island (2005). It's a visually stunning movie and deserves to be watched in the highest quality possible. I think the issue was that the studio had agreed to only release their movies on HD DVD, which ended up losing the format war. They did eventually release it on bluray and it looks amazing.
It's clips like this that make me glad I've got a massive VHS, DVD and Blu-ray collection. I kept them even when these movies started showing up on streaming services because I'm sentimental. Now that I know that these movies can disappear from streaming on a whim, I now have a second reason to hang onto my collection. By the way I'm happy with Blu-ray, I see no reason to upgrade to 4K, as I reckon it's overkill. The picture quality on Blu-ray is great in my opinion.
*"By the way I'm happy with Blu-ray, I see no reason to upgrade to 4K, as I reckon it's overkill"* You are absolutely right. I have perfect vision --- I can tell you that Blu-ray looks great even 6 feet away from a 100" screen (W1070 projector). The idea of 4K for general home movie viewing is absurd, and ten times more so considering that 99% of people are viewing it 10 feet away from a 55" screen. P.S. To be clear, movies and video games/simulations are two very different concepts with different rules. 4K isn't near enough for high FoV immersive gaming or simulation.
It’s the sound/audio quality that blew me away and convinced me. Getting a 4k player was the best thing I ever did for my home theater. Ended up throwing in-ceilings on top and growing to a 9.2.4 Atmos system and the sound quality is so damn amazing. The picture upgrade is worth it enough for the hdr, but yea, the audio. Even its ability to upconvert, it’s all worth it
Cocoon is such a charming film. I’m happy to own a dvd copy, but i hope it can get a Blu Ray release someday. Wilford Brimley is an under appreciated actor for sure. Wish we could have seen him in more sci fi and horror films.
Agree 100%, this is why I keep not only my movie collection but also my physical copies of video games. Id rather preserve something physically then wake up one day and realize my digital media is all gone. Like novels, there is something to holding a physical copy than looking at a digital.
I'm an independent film maker and many of the streaming services pay independents lees than a penny per view, and with DVDs I can actually get a fair return for my films. Its also very cool to go into a store and see one of my films on the shelve.
This happens with music too. I am a big fan of soundtracks, and often on soundtracks will be special versions of a song not available online, sometime a soundtrack will be completely available, then a year later only certain songs will be, and often any song or clip with movie dialog will not be available at all
I own Limited edition "the Abyss" on VHS, very proud of that. this is the format i first saw it on when it came out. Totally agree that unless you can touch, sniff and squeeze something, you do not really own it. PPL, keep buying physical media, you'll thank me one day, you are very welcome...
I treasure my physical media collection cause it’s like Christopher Nolan says, you own something you can hold in your hands. There’s some that it’s nice to watch digitally particularly if I’m away from home and don’t have the disc, but there’s that comforting feeling of popping a disc into my player at home and watching because it helps evoke the feeling of VHS when we used to have our VCR but without having to rewind 😅
It's absolutely perfectly possible to own something you CAN'T hold in your hands though. It's absolutely an artificial distinction. All you need to do is stop relying on "the cloud" (=other people's computers) and store on your OWN computer.
@@NorthWestPvPlolrektnoob Ikr? I was listening to it and I was like.. what the heck is wrong with the audio lol _🤣_ hopefully he notices and edits it. I know these videos take a while to make.
I was delighted at your mention of The Abyss but i have one comment about it, one thing you missed... There was a second release of The Abyss 3 years after the theatrical release -- the Special Edition. it has restored and re-integrated deleted scenes including an entire subplot that radically changes the tone of the movie, and honestly really improves it. I've never found it on streaming or digitally anywhere, only as LaserDisc or DVD releases which are both VERY hard to find.
I have a copy of Cocoon on dvd. It’s on the 20th century fox collection as well (something that is good to have now that Disney has its mits on the film vault). I have been collecting physical media since the VHS days and I’m not stopping any time soon. Streaming has its limitations and it will never look as good as a 4K.
It's also important for people to make sure they have access to working players of course. The Cocoon movies used to be on UK TV really often, so people should record/rip them off TV and make digital+physical copies when they can.
This is why, no matter what they do, piracy will never die. Too many movies are now only available on super rare VHS or Laserdisc yet you can share it with anyone with a digital rip. I hope everyone has there pegleg and eyepatch stored away for the future since they are no longer making Blu-rays after next year.
I'm one of those few, who has digitized some of the older media VHS & LaserDisc media in my collection - just in case for some unknown reason it is rendered useless, like laserrot on my LDs or mold on my VHS tapes. And, of course, I've digitized those hard-to-get editions of certain movies, where a newer release has been altered for, say, copyright reasons. An example of this, although not a movie, is the old 1998 run of CHARMED. I managed to get the first batch of DVDs featuring the original main theme "How Soon is Now?" performed by Love Spit Love, which now on streaming services has been replaced by an instrumental generic theme song similar in style. I'm guessing - since Love Spit Love's version is a cover version - that there might have been copyright issues preventing streaming services from using the original theme song.
That’s just because it’s moved to UHD/4k blu ray. You’ll still be able to get physical media. Just get a better player. Your 4k OLED (and sound system particularly) will thank you
This is also true of ebooks (Kindle for example). These books can be edited AFTER you've read them. Amazon claims this is to clean up bad copies but on at least one book - X-15 Diary, written by Richard Tregaskis parts about Neil Armstrong were altered from the original book. Amazon does not notify you when content in the book has changed, which is scary when you think you know what a book says - and then it doesn't.
That was what most terrestrial tv channels here in the uk used to do to films that were in the 2.20:1, 2.35:1, 2.39:1 ratios which was very annoying and would make me switch over to another channel in disgust 😆
Yeah, I was really baffled by the decision to release the film on MAX in open matte format. I see that happen with streaming retailers too (Universal and WB have been known to do that on certain retailers except Movies Anywhere, ironically).
For those who are confused, after looking on Amazon, you'll notice that U.S. copies of Cocoon on DVD and Blu Ray are unavailable, while European versions are. Side note: I was able to find Cocoon on VHS at Goodwill, recently. Still looking for DVD and Blu Ray. Anyway, good video! Thanks for making it!
@@hermanhale9258 I've looked at almost every local shop that carries movies and never seen Cocoon on DVD or Blu Ray. I'll keep looking, but I'm certainly, not going to pay $70 for a Blu ray copy that was recently, posted on eBay.
@@Omegamanjr I looked into this when I bought a European version DVD by mistake. The advice was - you can do it, but you will probably wreck your device forever. I don't have a DVD player on my computers. Only stand alone player hooked to a TV. Just mentioning this. I don't know if it will wreck the device or not.
@@hermanhale9258 It's won't exactly "wreck" it. It will just make it so that it only plays DVDs from that region ("Region 2"). So, it would basically work for Cocoon, but not for any other DVDs in your collection because they're probably all American ("Region 1"). Might not sound viable if you aren't going to be getting other Region 2 DVDs, but it is enough to say that the video is a bit misleading when saying it's impossible to get Cocoon.
I completely agree with the premise of owning physical media, for all the reasons mentioned here, however don't worry, there are several copies of Cocoon available on blu-ray. I found many on Amazon US & UK.😉
I lost my entire music collection when I uploaded to Google and they cancelled the service. Should've seen the writing on the wall when they started to replace my songs with censored versions.
There are still VHS tapes I watch on occasion because of obscurity and outright unavailability including the little known Vietnam war film Platoon Commander (I also have the book, as well). I own several movies on DVD I would suspect would be hard to find like Paths of Glory and Grapes of Wrath. Sure, more "useful" items could be on my book case, but you said it best that we as owners of original physical media are indeed custodians. Man, how I wish my mother didn't get rid of my Star Wars VHS box set from my childhood. Right to the old folks home with her!
One of the hardest decisions I ever made was cull my DVD library when I moved house. I kept my alltime favourites, along with lots of older films that were released pre 1990. Cocoon was one of the movies I kept since it,along with the others are more likely to be harder to find on digital media.
Thanks for making this video. I hope more people start buying physical again before it's too late. So many films are already only available used or imported, and it's only getting worse. It took me too long to notice how many movies were getting hard to find physically, but the past few years I've been working hard on my physical media collection again. Looks like I need to snag The French Connection next.
I do own a Blu-ray with commentary, extras etc of *Strange Days* and had it for 2 years now from K.Bigelow (Cameron). Got it from Amazon DE. But you made a great point about so many movies we loved in the 80s and 90s. Heck, even from the 70s. Nice video 👍
One thing to mention is that piracy became less popular when media became distributed digitally. It's really hard to find seeds for classic movies, some of which were never released on anything newer than VHS, and popular t0rrenting sites are also getting closed. BTW No Escape, Abyss - great movies.
Well, I'm still downloading almost anything I want to watch, classic, or obscure, many of which have seriously upgraded quality, from where it was fifteen years ago. I just checked, The Abyss has 38 seeds, and No Escape has just one, but it might still dl.
@@vandalfinnicus1507 Abyss should still be obtainable for those that are still trying to download via torrent (i downloaded it a couple weeks ago and shared til a 10.0 ratio). Sometimes you may need to leave those rare torrents active for a few weeks for the chance that the only person still sharing, may not be active that often. I had one rare film take 2 months to download, I swear the uploader must have been on dial-up, as the speed everytime it connected and i noticed, rarely got above 12kb/s. Due to this, I shared that film til a 20.0 ratio. I can't for the life of me, remember what the film was though, as I download lots - grabbed over 200 films in just the last week, taking my local collection nearer to the 5,000 mark (yes, I've a lot of harddives) my pc case is obnoxiously large, but nowhere near the sizes of the biggest cases available.
Recently, when Ryan O'Neal died, I tried to find "What's Up, Doc?" streaming. No one had it for free. Why should I pay for this? It's not new/digitally remastered... I dug through some old boxes and VOILA! I found my DVD copy. I also found a bunch of other movies I haven't watched in a while. While streaming is nice, there is something satisfying about holding a hard copy in your hand... along with all the notes and DVD extras. I won't be giving up my hard copies anytime soon. Thank you!
Very glad I found your channel. As an older guy I learned this lesson by getting stung in the early days of digital media. I started buying songs on my phone, but when I changed service provider I lost access to the entire library. I bought them out of convenience, and the second I did something for the sake of "convenience" I should have asked myself: what is the long con here?
Exactly. It only took a few iterations of this for me to learn that digital online copies are "rentals." I lost a handful of songs/movies when these providers changed or when I changed my phone, etc. so it's just not a smart way to go.
It reminds me of what happened with vinyl records when CDs became big. All the stores stopped selling vinyl and many titles became hard to find for a while. If you're old enough to remember life before VCRs, the only way you could see a move after it left the theatres was to wait until it showed up on TV, even if it meant staying up late to see it. Films aren't nearly as obscure now as they were then.
Yep! And if you missed it when it aired on TV, well you were SOL. It reminds of an episode of That 70's Show where Red buys a VCR and Kitty wants to watch Roots, but Red insists that they record Roots and then watch it after it's finished airing so they can fast forward thru the commercials. But Kitty is pissed off when Red discovers that he screwed up the recording because Kitty knows, as did everybody back then knew, "If you missed it, you missed it."
Did you know that there’s a "deactivate" list for blu rays? A studio adds a movie to the list, and it goes in the next firmware release for all the major player makers so the next time you update your firmware that particular disc stops working. To encourage people to update their firmware periodically, there's also a list of decryption keys, so periodically discs come out with a new key, forcing people to update firmware to get the latest key list. I own a couple of discs that only play on old firmware and a couple that only play on recent firmware. And I love "Unearthed Films". They’re the folks who re-released "Rock and Rule".
@@AttilaAsztalos You don’t need "a brand new player every year". But if you buy new discs every year, you may need a firmware update from time to time, as the studios release discs with new keys that your old firmware doesn’t have. That's when you’re forced to choose, update the firmware on your player to be compatible with the latest disc at the risk of having one or more older discs refusing to play with the new firmware. Remember, the company who contributed most to blu ray development in both hours and dollars was the same company that thought root kits in CDs was a good thing.
I understand the importance of owning physical media for archival/preservation purposes. But my issue with owning physical media is that it's very rare for me to ever re-watch the same movie enough to justify dedicating furniture space to it. It's more effective just to rent it on demand when I want to see it.
physical forever. I do regret selling some DVDs to upgrade their Blu/4K counterpart, as they ended up being edited versions of the film (like Toy Story 2 removing the casting couch gag)..same w/ their digital counterpart. I have burned copies of the OG Star Wars trilogy I rented From Netflix when they offered it
I made the same argument over Thanksgiving this year, and everyone at the table mocked me, saying “Where do you keep your eight track player?” Ha! I’ll get the last laugh.
@@vaderladyl I wish I had hung on to the old 8 track deck my dad gave me to play with when I was a kid, but at least I saved my dad's late 70s Japanese hifi from going to the thrift shop donation box when he decided to go to a more compact modern system.
I would tell them I keep my three 8 track tape players next to my 8 track tapes. And the tapes play just fine after some maintenance/servicing, thank you very much.
Totally agree. I silly movie called Johnny Dangerously with Micael Keaton was so funny when I was growing up. I ended up having to buy a used DVD to share it with the family. Turns out everyone gets sensitive when the villains says his 88 magnum shots through schools.
A very underrated movie. I haven't seen it in years. I still remember the character who used terms like 'Fargon Iceholes'. And Danny Vermin "My father did that to me once, once:. Just a great fun movie.
The loss of information and culture from our era (when companies go out of business and servers shut down) will be SO significant, that it will make the loss of the library of Alexandria seem like a historical footnote.
It's crazy how much historical TV and cinema is not accessible on streaming. Even crazier that the high budget "The Last Voyage of the Demeter" didn't even come to the UK in any form whatsoever.
One other point: Streaming services also often trim scenes. A friend and I watch films/TV virtually (I have physical copies, she streams). We often notice streaming trims out small scenes or changes a few things, or speeds up the movie tempo slightly. A minor issue now but who knows the future?
I had Cocoon on VHS back in the day. For some reason, my folks got a few CBS Fox films at the same time (Short Circuit, SpaceCamp (which is one of my all time favs, but not seen it in about 30 years??) Romancing the Stone, Predator etc). Dunno if there was some kind of promo at the time. That CBS intro jingle is ingrained on my brain and has been since the early 90s.
Been saying this for years. Happy to see others feel the same way.
Me too, I still have my VHS tapes and always look in the junk shops for DVDs
Me too!!!
@@alisonarias978 cousin?? Lol
Same here
Thank god for pira see. Without that, so many things would not be preserved today. So many video games so many shows and movies. so many software. If there wasn’t Pira see a very high percent of old movies or shows would not be available today at all.
Another thing I worry about with all things going digital is that they will stop releasing all the extras that they include on Blu-Ray and DVD. Behind the scenes, director's comments, alternate versions of the films, deleted scenes, etc. These are great not only for just movie buffs, but for people learning about film making.
You can find all those extras right here on RUclips.
Yeah, but if they stop making Blu-Ray and other physical media, they might not bother even producing extra content. Not only is that bad for the fans, it deprives future film makers from a wonderful source of learning about the industry.@@mogdor
@@mogdor Some of them sure, but not all of them. Especially small-budget indie films.
I have a massive collection of dvds and blue rays. I've been collecting for 16 years. For a movie to be in my collection, I would have to see it and like it. I am very proud of my collection.
What's a blue ray?
Same here. I'm collecting all my favorite shows and movies on blu ray and dvd. Not even just those in also collecting CDs, books, board games. I'm collecting all my favorites on physical
I have 2,846 dvds in my collection and are proud to have the whole cocoon collection in my collection
@@bahet1061 Something that you own and can watch whenever you wish, and which looks and sounds vastly superior to streaming content.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Why would you still by DVDs? Standard definition looks terrible on an HDTV or 4KTV. Unless they never released that title in 4k or blu-ray, there's no way I would buy a DVD. The cost difference isn't that much.
I worked with Disney during the HD-DVD/Blu-ray "war". This time was also the beginnings of digital media. Studios do lose things. Disney lost the digitally archived box artwork for well over 2000 releases when it migrated to a different database. One on the projects my team was assigned was to reach out to online retailers and pull the best quality image we could find to put back into the database. Also, universal studios had a large fire on their back lot that destroyed some digital archives and film masters among other things.
Doesn't disney have like a vault or something where they keep movies and never release them?
@kavasir7042 yes. I think Disney just about invented the "limited release". But there is a secure location where they keep the masters of all their classics.
@@kavasir7042 salt mines. the same salt mines they used for Romero's Day of the Dead i think
I bought the Blade Runner collector's edition that comes with the silver briefcase on both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray before the format war got settled. I hadn't even bought a player yet. I was such a big fan, I wanted to make sure it didn't sell out and I had it on whichever format won. I ended up selling the HD-DVD version when Blu-Ray won out. I wish I had kept it, now that I'm looking back. It would have been a cool piece of history to have in my collection. Of course, I still have the Blu-Ray version.
Bruh, how do they not have offsite backups of EVERYTHING
The DVD and Blu-ray versions are available to be delivered on Amazon next day delivery. No problem getting them in the UK.
Not the blu ray UK release
@@oakie007yes you can bits the steal cover one 😊 I know I've just got it lol
Preach my dude, when my dad passed I saved all his DVDs and he had at least 500. There is something so much more enjoyable about popping the disc in and watching a film, I'm never changing that.
You can't leave your iTunes etc. to anyone else in your Will.
Worry free screening instead of Wi-Fi issues or locked media.
It's actually an important part of the experience, in my opinion. I remember being so excited to go to the local video store and rent a new movie on a Friday night. I feel bad for kids raised on Netflix that will never get to have that experience.
@@kesamek8537 You may not, but you can give people your hard disk drive full of music that, as long as it's not corrupted or broken, you can easily give it to someone without internet connection. You just have to put it in a brand new itunes library that doesn't have your account hooked up to it.
I totally agree with you. In 2015 when some people helped me move, they teased me about all of my DVDs by asking "Have you ever heard of streaming?". I responded that a lot of my DVDs are not available on streaming, and even if they are available, they can disappear with little-to-no warning. Same with e-books: I read an article maybe 10 years ago about someone whose e-books disappeared from their accounts because the seller decided (for whatever reason) that they wanted to take them back. I always prefer a hard-copy because then no one can take it away from me.
Even if they do not disappear they may have been digitally altered. Both books and movies are being edited to remove or change content that may "offend". Nothing is considered off limits ESPECIALLY classics. Unless you've read or seen the original how would you even know?
Well, we don't need to go back in time - Sony just recently (on 6th of December 2023) deleted over 1000 series of film or in other word more than 10.000 films from its library and therefore from the library of its customers - with - you guessed it - no refunds. So yes - if one really likes a movie - he/she should buy a physical copy of it.
The problem with this is: if you have to explain it, THEY' WON'T UNDERSTAND IT. Those who would, already know. Everybody else DOESN'T CARE, and never will.
I bought Northern Exposure series on DVD. I am watching the series on Amazon Prime at the moment and they deleted a scene where Maurice mentioned something about questioning Roslyn and Cicely being lesbians. I guess somebody got offended....
I noticed I couldn’t find Cocoon a few years ago when I wanted to watch it for the first time in years. It wasn’t a big deal though, I just went to the standard pirate websites and got a version of it easily. In a case like this where there is literally no legal option I don’t feel at all guilty.
I found it in 0.3 seconds
I stopped giving these criminal corporations my money and I don't listen to criminal governments. I and everyone is told that we are not allowed to do what we want with our own property. Don't know if you are old enough to remember but DVDs used to come with a second disc which had a digital copy of the movie you bought and you were encouraged to upload it to your computer or lap top, so you could watch it whenever and however you wanted to. The criminal government says you can physically lend your copy of the film to whomever you want and as many people you want but if you do that "Digitally" you are now breaking the law !? GFY !!!!!!!!
I will do what I want with my own property that I bought and paid for, F U ! For those idiots who think that the governments and corporations aren't all criminals, just look at what Sony is doing on Dec. 31st. They are stealing everyone's bought and paid for content and will be erasing or removing all the content that they sold to Discovery, that you bought and paid for and the reason they are giving is that you weren't buying the content, you were buying a license to view the content. Well if that were true, then again, they stole from every customer. Netflix sells you a license in the form of a subscription which allows you to watch everything on their platform, so why was Sony charging their customers a license or subscription fee for every single thing they wanted. Shouldn't it have been a one time or monthly subscription and not a license fee for each individual movie or TV show ? This will finally lead to more and more people, ignoring so called "Laws" made up by criminal governments to protect criminal corporations.
Just like this platform, Shyte Tube's attempt to force people to watch adds or pay for add free services as just resulted in add blockers finding work arounds and people who had never heard of add blockers, now installing them in droves !!! I have been banned from commenting for 24 hrs, which is illegal ! Shyte tube is taking away people's right to free speech and that ban also comes with a threat, which is also illegal. Threatening people is illegal and the ban comes with a threat that if this continues they will delete my channel. Of course since I don't make videos and don't make them money, they threaten and ban me but some cunt like SSSniper (cunt) Wolf gets nothing for months and months after DOXING an other creator and when the public outrage and all the tweets and videos on Shyte Tube condonning them, what did they do ? Delete her channel and block her from ever being able to abuse other people ? NO ! The suspended her channel for 6 months and after that she will be allowed to post more shit videos that little cucked boys and dumb cunts like her watch and support because she has a few million subs that generate millions of dollars for Shyte Tube and I haven't even mentioned that in some of the videos against the cunt show that her entire channel was stolen from someone else and that she actually didn't only steal the idea for her channel, she actually stole the persona of this one girl in particular. This cunt stole the identity/persona of an other YT creator, her mannerisms the way she dresses and does her make up and her content and what the channel is about. There is nothing real about SSSniper Wolf Cunt but Shyt Tube will do nothing to her because the cunt makes them cash, plus, look at all the creators who either don't make Shyt Tube money that got canceled and their channel deleted and even those who made lots of money for them because they got to put a thousand adds on their 5 or 10 minut videos got canceled and their channels deleted because they were making videos that went against "THE MESSAGE"
Sorry for the rant but in closing. I stopped giving these criminal governments and corporations my money, cut the cord (cable) years ago and as far as I am concerned, I pay my internet provider bill every month and that gives me the right to watch or download anything and everything I find on the internet, which means I paid for all of it !!!! I don't care what a criminal government that is above the very laws they say the rest of us have to follow, again I say FFFFF UUUU !!!!!
Edit, sorry, had to add that I am talking about both Republicunt and Democrap governments when I say criminal governments. They are the same, they both act the same and try to convert and if not then they will cancel or kill you if you go against "THE MESSAGE" the only difference is what their message is. The evangelical, terrorist, Republicunts are all about racism and sexism and only rich white men should have all the power and money, where as the Democraps are all about Femanazi, man hating, sexist, racist, narcissists who think and believe that only women should have all the power, money and control everything !!!
@@timtrek Yes. But the point is, in the future, don't doubt that that might change.
All it takes is a few tweaks from Google or a change in the law to make those hosting content responsible for what is posted, and even those 0.3 second pirate websites will be gone.
People that SAY.
Piratebay will go away. Are the same people who think they can regulate cryto out of existance...
You CANT STOP A PEER TO PEER NETWORK..
You can stop the indexing sites.. but all that will do it make them hidden on the surface web. Make them on tor/i2p or people will integrate the search engine into the torrent search browser
Ps TORRENTING IS LEGAL
stealing copyrighted material is not.
Also when people like MCCHRIS hailed torrents as him getting popular.
Movies, TV shows too, that are almost impossible to find these days are why I'm always grateful to those who can upload they're old VHS recordings of all these vintages on RUclips. Cocoon is always a most important sci-fi movie thanks to all the obvious issues that it addresses. As a reminder of what we must always find the best ways to preserve for future generations, the kinds of movies that may subjectively hold up for audiences in ways that even the big mainstream movies today may not can most especially qualify. So thank you very much, Chris, for this quite timely video.
And thanks for reminding me. I just watched it. It's 38 years old and yet it's still so good to watch.
This happened to me when I downloaded the album "Vinnie Vincent Invasion: Invasion" on iTunes. Even though I paid for the album, recently it disappeared from my library and the store. This cannot happen to all the CDs I still have from the 90s. Be aware that even if you pay for something that is digital, it can still be taken from you.
That's insane. Sony did this this week with movies on their PlayStation Network. You paid for it yet you still lose access? Thst should absolutely be illegal.
Cause your not paying to own it, your paying to rent it, this is something most people ignore in the terms and conditions.
Well actually, Vinnie Vincent invasion was such a horrible album it became self aware and deleted itself! 😂 jk! Physical media 4evr!
Always make backups of the music files!
@buddhafett2213 no it isn't. Read your terms and conditions - you'll see you only pay for temporary access to a digital file which can be revoked at any time.
I LOVED the Cocoon movies as a kid. Bought them on DVD years ago and I am never getting rid of them. Sad to hear younger generations can't see it.
Still available as a dvd and blu ray in the uk so must be a US thing.
@@pauljakeman The fact that region locking is still a thing after all these years...boy it really prevented piracy, didn't it?
@@thelasthandbook6704 if anything it added to it. But at least if you have it on something physical, whether it’s a dvd, even from another region, or even on a hard drive, it means you know you at least have a way of watching it.
@@thelasthandbook6704 Region locking was about being able to set different price for each region. $15 might be change in the industrialized countries but days salary in many other places. They want to still sell as many copies they can, but not dilute the price where you can get more.
@@n00blamer Interesting. I did not know that was the reason behind it. Still, the EU--UK-US disparity is hardly worth mentioning, one would think, even if this did somehow make sense outside the first world.
That's why my husband and I have our own movies that we love to watch over and over without being charged to watch them. Awesome video! 👍
A few weeks ago I happened to found one single copy of Cocoon at a Newbury Comics, a new copy that hasn't been opened yet and yet it was an old edition, having all three stickers on the cover keeping it sealed. I've been buying DVDs for many years now and I ain't gonna stop now.
I was living in St. Petersburg FL at the time they were filming Cocoon. I was at the time unemployed as I had just been fired a week before they were setting up near me. They had a casting call for extras so I went down to check it out. They signed me up and I spent two days just sitting on bleachers in the exact same spot wearing the exact same clothes for the shuffleboard scene. You can see me for about a second though not the part of me that counts. The view of me is obstructed by a post so you can only see my arm and shoulder and part of my back. Grrr lol. I was so disappointed when I saw the movie but at least I made $100 out of it and very briefly met Ron Howard who as it happens is a really nice person in person.
That’s wild! Was just watching “Cocoon” in my rec room. I probably saw you ha ha. Great movie.
This is exactly what I have said to so many people. Purchasing movies, music, and video games physically literally means you OWN them. I have a huge collection of DVD’s, Blu-ray’s, CD’s, Video Games, Cassette’s, and VHS’s. Most of them are part of my father’s collection and they still run perfectly fine.
Games, I don't really care anymore. There's so few I will replay. But my wife hates our still continually growing 4k/BD/DVD collection. I have shelves and shelves in my office, and a stack of boxes in a closet. I just bought Oppenheimer in 4k, worth it.
I like blurays, if I can get them for a good price. To a certain point, I think its a good idea to buy the movies you like on bluray and to avoid streaming like the plague. However, I do not buy 4k blurays since they cannot be read by a computer drive. However, at a certain point you have to understand that practically everything goes down in value over time! So it's not worth becoming a huge hoarder of blurays and dvds, beyond the ones that you like and can obtain very cheaply.
@@OurResistance I bought a drive recently that reads 4k for ripping. Everything I buy is ripped immediately for backup.
At least as long as your DVD drive is working and can read those discs, because it becomes harder and harder every year to buy a new DVD drive. Also the media deteriorate with time depending on the technology they've been produced with. The pressed DVDs might be durable. But with DVD-Rs or DVD-RWs it is often the case that the medium is just some photosensitive material that decomposes with time and the medium becomes unable to read. Many of my own archived DVD-Rs are no longer readable after 10 or 15 years despite keeping them in good conditions and their surface not being scratched or anything :q
I keep wondering what technology could I use these days for my archived data and backups to make it last more than 10 years :q
@@smstnitc Sounds like you need to leave your wife bud. I guarantee you she will get rid of that collection the second you go away for more than a few days
Physical Media is important. DVD, Blu Ray and Video Games as well. Having a disc and actually owning something is important. They can take away anything online and on streaming. Ownership and physical media needs to always be around.
We’ve seen that with the closure of the Nintendo online stores. So many games are just gone to history now.
As much as I like having a physical disk or cartridge, eventually the hardware that is required to view them will fail and will get increasingly difficult to repair or replace
Can't take away piracy and data hoarders.
@@VEC7ORlt Especially those who archive and download content from the Wii Shop Channel/ISOs/ROMs/Torrent files that include movies, music, tv shows, etc. that are always readily available to download so long as you have stable internet connection and such to download them for offline use.
Thank you for putting this out, it's so important to have physical media..
.. However to give credit to streaming, it's a great option but it should ALWAYS be an option!
In the last few months I got into a hobby of buying DVDs at thrift stores, archiving the original disc images, and making a converted version in a modern playback format.
Occasionally I come across DVDs that are still in sealed packaging. It's surprisingly common for these sealed, never touched DVDs to be unreadable. Usually the errors pop up on the 2nd layer of the recording. Single layer disks are more reliable.
Out of hundreds of DVDs I've come across only 2 "DVD-18" discs - a rare disc type that is both double sided *and* double layer, so their total capacity is 18GB. Both were faulty.
I built up a pile of sealed DVDs that I didn't bother imaging for a while. Being sealed, I assumed they were fine and I mentally checked them off my shopping list. When I finally opened them and worked through that pile, I started to think I have worse luck with sealed DVDs than I do with used ones.
It makes me think that excess unsold DVDs are stored badly, causing many of them to be ruined before they finally got donated to the thrift stores where I bought them.
This is in Florida - so it might be outdoor humidity exposure or it might be heat. Both are bad for optical discs. The good thing about used DVDs is they have probably lived their life indoors.
Since physical media degrades, it is also important to exercise your right to make archival copies of the media you own.
But the dvd industry said they would last forever, still have the magazine ad from 23 yrs ago lol.
@@onceuponatimeintoronto891 Just like I remember "Windows 10 is the last Windows you'll ever use-!!"
Cocoon is still occasionally made available to TV stations in countries with blanket music clearance agreements. It's probably just too expensive to make it widely available. When Netflix licensed the first two seasons of Peaky Blinders it was too expensive to get much of the music that was used on the BBC cleared for streaming so it licensed different music for the platform. These issues are very common. Only last month the BBC wanted to make available the first story of Doctor Who for the show's 60th anniversary but it was blocked by the son of one of the story's writers because no streaming agreement on the BBC had been negotiated with the writer's estate. Unravelling rights issues can be time consuming, expensive and sometimes impossible. There are even films made in the last 30 years for which no one knows who currently owns the rights to and are effectively dead when it comes to streaming or physical media.
I was wondering why there are so many great movies out there that you never see streamed.
The writer's son should be ashamed of himself. His father was paid for his work. Now, his SON wants money, for work his father did and was paid for decades ago? Screw him. We'll just pirate it and he'll get nothing. Get your own job, sonny boy.
Cocoon is streaming for free on Sling Tv right now.
@@christophernuzzi2780
But you do not know what the ownership of the material is.
@@Moondoggy1941 you just go to the sites that host the flag as they say.
Buy physical media, and then rip it to keep it in digital format. The annoying thing with DVDs and Blu rays are all the warnings about downloading and piracy and copyright you're forced to watch before you can enjoy your movie.
It is in a digital format on DVD and Blu-ray; it's more a transformation. The only thing you're doing when ripping is decrypting it, possibly compressing, maybe putting into a new container (mp4, etc).
I have been collecting DVD's and Blue rays for a while, and recently started collecting CD's as well. Not just for the physical ownership of the media but because as a film lover all the special features are what I love.
When Alien was first replaced as a deluxe box set with the first three sequels, it cam with some VERY interesting extras, including an 'Isolated soundtrack' This was basically whatever raw sound was captured at the time of principal photography for each foot made the final cut. This is absolutely fascinating if you are interested in film production, because Alien was DEFINITELY a movie that was MADE in post production, whatever the actors felt about the set design.
I have owned No Escape for many years on DVD. I love that movie.
Sony and Discovery has shown people why physical media is important, Amazon did it a while ago as well with some books if I remember correctly, and unless some sort of lawsuit gets through to challenge or cause change with copyright law, it is going to remain this way for a while.
This is a fantastic movie, all of the performances were top notch. Wilfred Brimley was only in his fifties when he played a senior citizen.
Isn’t that crazy? Blew me away as a kid to see him in Hard Target riding horses and shooting arrows, but he was really only in his early sixties.
They did 'age' him up with makeup though for Cocoon. But he's like Paul Giamatti. Always looked older than he really is.
You're messing with my head. I had no idea he was that age at the time. Looking Brimley up on Wikipedia, he was only 50 years old when Cocoon came out. He was born in September of 1934; Cocoon came out in June of 1985. I remember seeing Cocoon in theaters. At the time, I thought he must have been in his 70s. I mean, I'm turning 50 in two months, and I don't look that old, don't feel that old, don't talk that old, at least I think. Or, maybe I do, and just don't notice it. Yes, I understand he was wearing make-up, but even in the movie The Thing, from 1982, it looks like he's in his late 60s at the very least. It reminds me of Carroll O'Connor in All in the Family. When that series premiered in 1971, Carroll O'Connor was only 47 years old. I think the Archie Bunker character was supposed to be in his late 40s at the start of the series. But it looked like O'Connor and his character were in their late 60s.
Must've been all them Quaker Oats and the Beetus!
@@JosephDillmanThey’ll get ya!
Completely agree with this. I still have old DVD's, Blu Ray's, select 4K's and still have all my original music CD's. Like you said, digital copies are just rentals.
Plus I like to watch a movie when I want to watch it. Not search through several streaming services only to find out it's not available. I hate that.
Isn't it funny how the streamers charge extra for what you want to see? It's nice to just pull out the DVD. If I want to see something I buy the DVD or BR and wait a couple days. I prefer BR but DVD is fine. TBH I can't tell that big of a difference if I like what I'm watching.
I couldn't stop seeing this film running on TV up until I was way into my 20's! Every channel seemed to be taking turns running it every single public holiday and/or holiday season!
I would've never thought for a fraction of a moment back then that I'd live too see the day where that film would be hard to see.
It’s not. There seven copies under $20 on eBay. In fact most of them between 10 and $13. There are some that are brand new close to $20. In case you haven’t noticed, so-called influencers make content that make people want to watch them not because it’s true. And if you think this person isn’t an influencer, then why are they influencing your opinion about a topic.
@@GlobalOffense if that's the case then it's a pretty banal and pointless piece of fiction.
I never really heard of it, same with The Lost Boys but once I watched them like in 2019... I just see more and more about these movies.
It seems to be a specific NA problem, as the movie is readily available on all kind of formats in Europe.
There is a group of films that even won Oscars that are impossible to get, for example, The Piano with Anna Paquin, and The English Patient. The problem with optical media is that oxygen oxidizes them and eventually destroys them, I have CDs that I originally bought in the 80's that are now unusable. Personally, I have a hard drive with the movies I love and acquire them as much as possible.
I have CDs I got in the 80s that still play fine.
I started buying a lot movies, TV show and documentaries on DVD and Blu ray a few years back. This all started when talk began about canceling certain movies because of their content. I make my own digital copies and use EMBY to play them. Best decision I ever made. Have my own personal steaming service.
This is exactly why I have my blu-ray collection. One of the most important pieces in it is a blu-ray copy of Dogma, which is a notoriously difficult movie to find on DVD let alone BR. To make it even more special, my wife and I got Jason Muse to sign it when we saw him at a comedy club a few years ago.
It's awesome you have that copy, let alone signed by one of the actors/crew members that worked on the film/starred in the film in the first place.
It's Mewes*, lunchbox 😂
Another gret film. When I first saw it, i nearly turned it off thinking it was some pro religious film. I nearly did the same with Super too (ellen page was hot before deciding it/they/🤢🤮 wanted a gender change), seriously under-rated film "shut up crime!" 😂
There are versions of dogma floating around on yt. I don’t remember the movie welll enough to know if it is maybe missing something.
Yeah, I've got Dogma on laserdisc along with Clerks, Chasing Amy, and Mallrats.
My family makes fun of me about my physical media. But I collect specifically for the reasons you mentioned. But also if came quite handy too. During a bad storm and power outage. Internet was down and the family freaking out. I had my portable blu-ray player and was happy.
Errm but you had no power so how did you ise the tv and bluray
I smell bullcrap
@@marklola12 He mentioned a portable blu-ray player. Usually they either run on an internal battery, or an external low voltage supply (12v usually as they're generally intended for travel use) which is easy enough to hook up via USB powerbanks or a car battery/portable supply that a lot of people have in the garage. I've been extremely greatfull for physical media in the past when my internet has gone down for several days. I have a laptop and an external BD drive that would do the same job.
It's sad that a lot of stores are carrying less Blu Rays and DVD's these days.
One example i always use to explain why i have blurays/dvds is Alex Rider. Alex Rider was an Amazon Original show. Yet now, in the UK at least, it's not available on prime anymore. If an Amazon original show can go off Amazon. Anything can go off anything. Even if something is available on streaming. It could go away at any point.
If you don’t own it physically, you don’t own it.
Blu-ray, DVD, and VHS version of Cocoon are all available at Amazon Germany, all in stock. You can even choose between different versions (standard, extended, UK import, French import, etc.) Seems to be a US-only problem.
It's down to titles so yes you can find Cocoon today but I'm sure many Germans can give examples like Cocoon in Germany. I do suspect though rights issues maybe more complicated in English speaking countries as they demand more money for titles. I'd say if you can, buy your fave movies and TV shows, especially the more niche titles, that won't be mass produced.
Weird, I watched Cocoon and The Abyss not too long ago on some streaming service, I'm not sure which. Also I saw Cocoon way back when in the theater but I never knew there was a sequel.
The all at the bottom of the Walmart bin
Same availability on eBay Australia 👍
Amazon Germany offers a LaserDisk as well... eBay US offers Lots of Cocoon Beta tapes
I wish more people detailed issues like this.
I've been a collector of rare records since the 1980s. I DJed later on so that only increased my collecting. I've also liked buying stuff I want and keeping it - which is why when I built my first computer in the 1970s, I never sold any of the games and future consoles and computers I bought. I still enjoy going back to them so I never could bear to part with them.
With the record collecting, I learned a lot about releases - why some things were rare, why some things were hard to find, and why some things were deliberately in small supply. I kind of assumed that some things just didn't sell and that was it. But no, there's licencing issues, mistakes, mispressings, legal disputes, scandals, diverse changes in tastes and so on that affect thigns greatly.
For example, you can easily find any Beatles record anywhere. They're more pricey nowadays (for anything before the remasters of the last twenty years) but the simple reason is that these records never left print. They've always been available in one pressing or another - never deleted.
A friend of mine back in the 1980s used to own a video library. In fact he was one of the first in Britain. He told me many times of what a headache it was then to stock videos as every single week some company would go under or there'd be some legal dispute about copyright and he'd have to remove perfectly good VHSes from rental. Or the censors revisited some title and decided to cut something and again it needed removing and he'd have to buy the film AGAIN. He gave me a few copies of films he couldn't do anything with. I think it was something like Friday the 13th where he'd had about 7 different copies of that, all unusable.
Frankly anyone collecting really NEEDS to at least moderately understand the business side of what they're collecting whther it might seem drab. Because if you understand it you can not only savour and pick up stuff (or keep) things that are likely to disappear, but you can clean up at buying certain things.
Thanks to these insights, I've managed to amass quite a lot of rare shit in games and records for bugger all money.
The Drew Carey show is impossible to find because of music licensing issues. One of the best comedy shows of the 90's in the US. Totally smoked because of the music used. Never got a VHS or DVD release, it only exists on tapes people made themselves from the TV set.
@@Alconium Great example. I'm not familiar with it, but isn't that a really good point? That a whole series of shows lasting hours is tanked because of the licencing on the music? It demonstrates how much of a house of cards this can be.
Collecting is awesome, but it takes up space. If you live in a small apartment or home, collecting can become hoarding!
@@Alconium Weird I was just thinking recently about whatever happened to Drew Carey, which got me thinking about his show too. I remember my parents watching it when I was a kid and them getting a kick out of it. Ive always wondered why it didnt pop up on retail shelves or recommended buy lists over the years like so many other shows of the era. Thanks for the info.
I am making myself a library on a hard drive. And then I'll make a copy of the collection on a second hard drive as a back-up.
Great points. I think there will always be people who want physical media, and people who prefer streaming exclusively. I was trying to explain to a friend all the reasons (like extras and commentary tracks) that I still buy blu rays, and he replied: “I think you care about movies more than I do.”
Cocoon (dvd) is available here in the UK for £12.00. There is also a double pack with the sequel
So is the 1080p bluray
It’s also broadly available in Japan both physically and in digital formats.
I have it and the abyss in two separate collections . DVDs are plentiful in the UK.
DVD’s don’t rot, as long as you look after them and don’t store them in damp or humid conditions
The Tales from the Crypt TV series is another prime example. Even though it originally aired on HBO, they never actually owned the rights to the series and the licensing for it has pretty much been up in the air since the advent of streaming. It's some of the best anthology horror out there, and only those with the physical boxset from back in the day are able to enjoy it now
They're on sale new on ebay all day for 25 bucks.
You can find them on the internet if you know where to look.
I got it here available to watch
Cocoon is a brilliant film and a classic. It should be released on streaming services so every generation can re-discover it.
Agreed but alternatively people shouldn't be snobby about physical media.
all over the world...at the same time? i never really liked this movie, as a kid i found it creepy, as an adult, sad. besides after i saw the Twilight Zone episode that predates it.....anyway, i suppose you're a Ron Howard fanatic?
Same with Batteries not included.
It is streaming, on Sling, along with the sequel.
The fortieth anniversary is in 2025.What better time than then?
We better hope devices to actually play physical copies don't stop being made because then many movies will inevitably become lost media.
Hopefully I will be dead before that happens, it will eventually. Can you buy a new VCR or laser disc player anymore?
Yeah, I've thinking about that. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to buy an extra Blu-Ray or two and keep them on standby in case my current one breaks down.
I'm seeing VCRs on sale on Amazon. Most them are labeled as "renewed". I guess they mean refurbished. Some Laser Disc players but they appear to be used. @@albusplaustrum06
You can always rip all of your stuff to video files, but that is, of course, time consuming, and storage can become a problem, especially for HD and 4K movies.
@@albusplaustrum06Funai, the world's last manufacturer of VCRs ,sold their final units back in 2016. This was because worldwide sales had dropped to 750, 000. Pioneer sold their final laser disc players back in 2009.
It took me seeing this video to realize it’s true, I haven’t seen Cocoon in decades. That movie used to be so popular they would play it on tv almost weekly. It was so often I got sick of it. Now it’s totally disappeared
Having physical copies of anything helped out when I hadn't had internet for a month during the summer.
Turned to watching every dvd we had collected that was scattered about the house.
It saved my sanity when there wasn't anything to do outdoors or mindlessly play video games.
So playing video games is mindless but watching movies is not? It's much closer to the other way around
@@karlhendrikse I said mindlessly play video games.
Not play mindless video games.
I know true and well that they both can be mindless.
I'll get a change of pace from M I N D L E S S L Y playing the same games I've played before and know the story of.
One movie that comes to mind is Steven Spielberg's "Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
I remember when Close Encounters of the Third Kind was first released in theaters and then on HBO and on VHS and all you could get was the theatrical version.
Then a few years later they released "The Special Edition". After a while you could not find the original theatrical version anywhere. The Special Edition was all you could find. Then move forward a couple decades and the original theatrical version finally made it's reappearance along with a new director's cut called "The Collector's Edition". Spielberg's Collector's Edition didn't have the final ship's interior scene which was added in for the Special Edition.
Finally in 2007, a 30th Anniversary Blu_Ray version was released with all 3 versions, and in 2017 a 4K version with all 3 versions came out.
I remember in 2005, while cleaning out my father's house after he passed away, I found a VHS version of the Special Edition. I was thrilled!!!
Now I know there are some film buff's out there who hate anything that's not the original theatrical versions of films, but I loved the Special Edition.
Spielberg said he didn't want to include the deleted scenes of Richard Dryfuss walking into and gawking at the wonderous vast interior of the mothership, but I look at it this way. Spielberg spent the money to film that scene. Model makers had made the interior of the mothership, (no CGI at the time), and paid carpenters, grips, LD's, photogs and the actors to film those scenes and the studio insisted that Spielberg include the final scene when they fronted Spielberg $1.5 million to edit the Special Edition.
It's great that he allowed all three cuts to be on the collector's release, other films like Blade Runner have done the same and apart from honoring the work of those involved it's a fascinating exercise in understanding how editing affects a movie to have all of them watchable. I think Spielberg feels embarassed by the ET "special edition", probably because of the walkie talkies moment, but I honestly got a kick out of seeing the bonus scenes and wish they would reissue that version alongside the original theatrical someday.
Prior to the DVD, Criterion released the 1977 theatrical cut on laserdisc-!
I completely agree with the message of this video.
I'm not a big fan of Cocoon, I saw it once a long time ago. I didn't dislike it, but I never felt the need to watch it again.
But if I ever do get the urge to watch it, or some other movie or a TV show I think it's incredibly important for physical copies to be available.
For fans of the movie I hope there is a 4k release of Cocoon.
Keep physical media alive.
This is why I keep my DVDs & Blu-rays. I will make a copy to put on a media server so I can watch them whenever & wherever. Also, this makes it easy for me to check while at a store if I already have a copy of the video or not. Be it a TV show or movie.
Ha, I tend to buy the same ones again, by mistake. But I mostly buy used at the thrift store, so, no big deal.
Proud to say I own a blu-ray version of Cocoon and some other hard to find movies, but there's still a few movies I can't get a hold of. One example on top of my head is Mask with Cher and Eric Stoltz. I do own the DVD but that movie is nowhere to be found.
This is the reason I purchase Movies & TV Shows physically and then I rip them and compress them for my media server. Right now I am trying to find a TV Show that I don't believe ever was released on DVD/Blu Ray called The Misadventures of Sheriff Lobo (Then shortened to Sheriff Lobo).
Physical copies will always be best for many reasons. They often have special features that you can’t get from streaming sites. And remember DVD Easter eggs? I used to LOVE getting a new DVD and searching all the menus for hidden gems!
Some easter eggs are rubbish. Special Skynet Edition T2... but you need to enter the date of "judgement day" and unlock with remote control, to view the actual judgement day, uncut, extended version with the deleted scenes reinstated. Pirate it... that version is just there no messing about.
You raise very good points about the value of physical media. I too like different versions. My laserdisc version of Star Wars may still come in handy. Some of George Lucas's improvements really annoy me. The new version has the Millennium Falcon taking off by rising up, then zooming away. I prefer the simplicity of the original straight-line escape into space. On a practical note, I like the disc extras plus the ease of subtitles and FF/rewind with discs.
I still have my VHS trilogy box set, from before those dumb changes Lucas did. I need to transfer them to DVD-R before the tapes disintegrate.
I have the Star Wars Trilogy Definitive Collection on LaserDisc the THX box set. I put it on layaway at the video store in the mall I worked at while going to school. It was $250.00 in 1993. The Box, book, and all the disc are still like new.
@nater86zx it would actually be easier to copy the laserdiscs since those are easier to find in widescreen and have absolutely zero copy protection. Or find the 2006 dvd that's basically the 1993 boxset
Unless you're really attached to your personal vhs set.
@@Knightmessenger Haha no I'm not attached to them on a personal level. I don't have a laserdisc player so I'll look for the 2006 trilogy set. Thank You!
I also have the 2006 DVD sets with the original versions, but remember that they were designed to be played on tube TVs in letterbox format, with black bars above and below. The video squished into the middle does not have good resolution. (Edit: my video would look better had I used S-video).
I’ve long had a soft spot for Cocoon since I saw it in the cinema aged 14 back in the day…
It’s absolutely true what you say about physical media. Hopefully people will realise this and return to buying BluRay - as well as CD’s etc.
I had a similar problem with The Island (2005). It's a visually stunning movie and deserves to be watched in the highest quality possible. I think the issue was that the studio had agreed to only release their movies on HD DVD, which ended up losing the format war. They did eventually release it on bluray and it looks amazing.
Is that the weird "never let me go but action movie" one?
@@kahlzun No.
Coccon is on Sling TV to stream. Watched it just last week.... probably why this was suggested to me
It's clips like this that make me glad I've got a massive VHS, DVD and Blu-ray collection. I kept them even when these movies started showing up on streaming services because I'm sentimental. Now that I know that these movies can disappear from streaming on a whim, I now have a second reason to hang onto my collection.
By the way I'm happy with Blu-ray, I see no reason to upgrade to 4K, as I reckon it's overkill. The picture quality on Blu-ray is great in my opinion.
*"By the way I'm happy with Blu-ray, I see no reason to upgrade to 4K, as I reckon it's overkill"*
You are absolutely right. I have perfect vision --- I can tell you that Blu-ray looks great even 6 feet away from a 100" screen (W1070 projector). The idea of 4K for general home movie viewing is absurd, and ten times more so considering that 99% of people are viewing it 10 feet away from a 55" screen.
P.S. To be clear, movies and video games/simulations are two very different concepts with different rules. 4K isn't near enough for high FoV immersive gaming or simulation.
It’s the sound/audio quality that blew me away and convinced me. Getting a 4k player was the best thing I ever did for my home theater. Ended up throwing in-ceilings on top and growing to a 9.2.4 Atmos system and the sound quality is so damn amazing. The picture upgrade is worth it enough for the hdr, but yea, the audio. Even its ability to upconvert, it’s all worth it
Cocoon is such a charming film. I’m happy to own a dvd copy, but i hope it can get a Blu Ray release someday. Wilford Brimley is an under appreciated actor for sure. Wish we could have seen him in more sci fi and horror films.
Agree 100%, this is why I keep not only my movie collection but also my physical copies of video games. Id rather preserve something physically then wake up one day and realize my digital media is all gone. Like novels, there is something to holding a physical copy than looking at a digital.
Only problem with the games are they are just loading a launcher on the disc now. Some are just a code in the case now.
I'm an independent film maker and many of the streaming services pay independents lees than a penny per view, and with DVDs I can actually get a fair return for my films. Its also very cool to go into a store and see one of my films on the shelve.
This happens with music too. I am a big fan of soundtracks, and often on soundtracks will be special versions of a song not available online, sometime a soundtrack will be completely available, then a year later only certain songs will be, and often any song or clip with movie dialog will not be available at all
You are 100% correct about Cocoon. I rarely even see it on tv anymore. Which is sad because I love it.
I own Limited edition "the Abyss" on VHS, very proud of that. this is the format i first saw it on when it came out. Totally agree that unless you can touch, sniff and squeeze something, you do not really own it. PPL, keep buying physical media, you'll thank me one day, you are very welcome...
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I treasure my physical media collection cause it’s like Christopher Nolan says, you own something you can hold in your hands. There’s some that it’s nice to watch digitally particularly if I’m away from home and don’t have the disc, but there’s that comforting feeling of popping a disc into my player at home and watching because it helps evoke the feeling of VHS when we used to have our VCR but without having to rewind 😅
It's absolutely perfectly possible to own something you CAN'T hold in your hands though. It's absolutely an artificial distinction. All you need to do is stop relying on "the cloud" (=other people's computers) and store on your OWN computer.
4:28 ) The audio quality is muffled. Just wanted to point out.
this is the most recent comment and I literally went to comments to see if anyone pointed it out and it seems like you're the only one
i wonder if it happened today
@@NorthWestPvPlolrektnoob Ikr? I was listening to it and I was like.. what the heck is wrong with the audio lol _🤣_ hopefully he notices and edits it. I know these videos take a while to make.
I was delighted at your mention of The Abyss but i have one comment about it, one thing you missed...
There was a second release of The Abyss 3 years after the theatrical release -- the Special Edition. it has restored and re-integrated deleted scenes including an entire subplot that radically changes the tone of the movie, and honestly really improves it.
I've never found it on streaming or digitally anywhere, only as LaserDisc or DVD releases which are both VERY hard to find.
I have a copy of Cocoon on dvd. It’s on the 20th century fox collection as well (something that is good to have now that Disney has its mits on the film vault). I have been collecting physical media since the VHS days and I’m not stopping any time soon. Streaming has its limitations and it will never look as good as a 4K.
It's also important for people to make sure they have access to working players of course.
The Cocoon movies used to be on UK TV really often, so people should record/rip them off TV and make digital+physical copies when they can.
Very good point a dvd/vcr combo player on Amazon now that is used is 500 or more now. Shamless price hiking for out of production tech.
Cocoon & Cocoon 2 were both on UK only a few months ago
This is why, no matter what they do, piracy will never die. Too many movies are now only available on super rare VHS or Laserdisc yet you can share it with anyone with a digital rip. I hope everyone has there pegleg and eyepatch stored away for the future since they are no longer making Blu-rays after next year.
I'm one of those few, who has digitized some of the older media VHS & LaserDisc media in my collection - just in case for some unknown reason it is rendered useless, like laserrot on my LDs or mold on my VHS tapes.
And, of course, I've digitized those hard-to-get editions of certain movies, where a newer release has been altered for, say, copyright reasons.
An example of this, although not a movie, is the old 1998 run of CHARMED. I managed to get the first batch of DVDs featuring the original main theme "How Soon is Now?" performed by Love Spit Love, which now on streaming services has been replaced by an instrumental generic theme song similar in style. I'm guessing - since Love Spit Love's version is a cover version - that there might have been copyright issues preventing streaming services from using the original theme song.
Yup. Like the unaltered Star Wars Trilogy in widescreen.
Remember Amazon Women on the Moon with the Pirates? 🤣
@@salazamExactly, I have one of those too, and many others on VHS, and the working deck 😄
That’s just because it’s moved to UHD/4k blu ray. You’ll still be able to get physical media. Just get a better player. Your 4k OLED (and sound system particularly) will thank you
I lost a Dvd of Blood in Blood out.. so I bought it again... the new copy had nearly half hour of scenes deleted because of racism.
This is also true of ebooks (Kindle for example). These books can be edited AFTER you've read them. Amazon claims this is to clean up bad copies but on at least one book - X-15 Diary, written by Richard Tregaskis parts about Neil Armstrong were altered from the original book. Amazon does not notify you when content in the book has changed, which is scary when you think you know what a book says - and then it doesn't.
Private copy of my entire library. Zero interest in anything less.
FYI: The version of Strange Days that is on MAX is cropped from 2.39:1 to 1.78:1, destroying the shot composition that Kathryn Bigelow put together.
Oh God really? That's awful
That was what most terrestrial tv channels here in the uk used to do to films that were in the 2.20:1, 2.35:1, 2.39:1 ratios which was very annoying and would make me switch over to another channel in disgust 😆
Yeah, I was really baffled by the decision to release the film on MAX in open matte format. I see that happen with streaming retailers too (Universal and WB have been known to do that on certain retailers except Movies Anywhere, ironically).
For those who are confused, after looking on Amazon, you'll notice that U.S. copies of Cocoon on DVD and Blu Ray are unavailable, while European versions are.
Side note: I was able to find Cocoon on VHS at Goodwill, recently. Still looking for DVD and Blu Ray.
Anyway, good video! Thanks for making it!
I have never seen Cocoon at the thrift stores, that I remember. That does seem odd, since it was such a big hit.
@@hermanhale9258 I've looked at almost every local shop that carries movies and never seen Cocoon on DVD or Blu Ray. I'll keep looking, but I'm certainly, not going to pay $70 for a Blu ray copy that was recently, posted on eBay.
You can just get the European one and change the region on one or your devices. It's certainly doable on computers.
@@Omegamanjr I looked into this when I bought a European version DVD by mistake. The advice was - you can do it, but you will probably wreck your device forever. I don't have a DVD player on my computers. Only stand alone player hooked to a TV. Just mentioning this. I don't know if it will wreck the device or not.
@@hermanhale9258 It's won't exactly "wreck" it. It will just make it so that it only plays DVDs from that region ("Region 2"). So, it would basically work for Cocoon, but not for any other DVDs in your collection because they're probably all American ("Region 1"). Might not sound viable if you aren't going to be getting other Region 2 DVDs, but it is enough to say that the video is a bit misleading when saying it's impossible to get Cocoon.
I completely agree with the premise of owning physical media, for all the reasons mentioned here, however don't worry, there are several copies of Cocoon available on blu-ray. I found many on Amazon US & UK.😉
You could also download movies on a thumb drive or digital hard drive.
I just purchased Cocoon 1 and Cocoon 2 on one disc from Amazon for £9.99. Looking forward to watching them again.
I lost my entire music collection when I uploaded to Google and they cancelled the service.
Should've seen the writing on the wall when they started to replace my songs with censored versions.
There are still VHS tapes I watch on occasion because of obscurity and outright unavailability including the little known Vietnam war film Platoon Commander (I also have the book, as well). I own several movies on DVD I would suspect would be hard to find like Paths of Glory and Grapes of Wrath. Sure, more "useful" items could be on my book case, but you said it best that we as owners of original physical media are indeed custodians.
Man, how I wish my mother didn't get rid of my Star Wars VHS box set from my childhood. Right to the old folks home with her!
Do you mean Platoon Leader with Michael Dudikoff? If so, I loved that movie as a kid and I recently stumbled onto a VHS copy in a second-hand store.
One of the hardest decisions I ever made was cull my DVD library when I moved house. I kept my alltime favourites, along with lots of older films that were released pre 1990. Cocoon was one of the movies I kept since it,along with the others are more likely to be harder to find on digital media.
Thanks for making this video. I hope more people start buying physical again before it's too late. So many films are already only available used or imported, and it's only getting worse.
It took me too long to notice how many movies were getting hard to find physically, but the past few years I've been working hard on my physical media collection again.
Looks like I need to snag The French Connection next.
I buy all the movies I like. It's the best way to support the people that make it. Aside from watching it in theaters first...
I've just done a quick search and found many copies of cocoon available
I do own a Blu-ray with commentary, extras etc of *Strange Days* and had it for 2 years now from K.Bigelow (Cameron). Got it from Amazon DE. But you made a great point about so many movies we loved in the 80s and 90s. Heck, even from the 70s. Nice video 👍
One thing to mention is that piracy became less popular when media became distributed digitally. It's really hard to find seeds for classic movies, some of which were never released on anything newer than VHS, and popular t0rrenting sites are also getting closed.
BTW
No Escape, Abyss - great movies.
Well, I'm still downloading almost anything I want to watch, classic, or obscure, many of which have seriously upgraded quality, from where it was fifteen years ago. I just checked, The Abyss has 38 seeds, and No Escape has just one, but it might still dl.
@@vandalfinnicus1507 It took me like 10 minutes to find and snarf Cocoon and I'm not on any el33t private trackers, just used normal web search.
@@vandalfinnicus1507 Abyss should still be obtainable for those that are still trying to download via torrent (i downloaded it a couple weeks ago and shared til a 10.0 ratio).
Sometimes you may need to leave those rare torrents active for a few weeks for the chance that the only person still sharing, may not be active that often. I had one rare film take 2 months to download, I swear the uploader must have been on dial-up, as the speed everytime it connected and i noticed, rarely got above 12kb/s. Due to this, I shared that film til a 20.0 ratio. I can't for the life of me, remember what the film was though, as I download lots - grabbed over 200 films in just the last week, taking my local collection nearer to the 5,000 mark (yes, I've a lot of harddives) my pc case is obnoxiously large, but nowhere near the sizes of the biggest cases available.
No truer words were spoken !!!!!! Long live Physical Media!!!!!!!!!!!!
Recently, when Ryan O'Neal died, I tried to find "What's Up, Doc?" streaming. No one had it for free. Why should I pay for this? It's not new/digitally remastered... I dug through some old boxes and VOILA! I found my DVD copy. I also found a bunch of other movies I haven't watched in a while. While streaming is nice, there is something satisfying about holding a hard copy in your hand... along with all the notes and DVD extras. I won't be giving up my hard copies anytime soon. Thank you!
I have the Blu-Ray of that.
Very glad I found your channel.
As an older guy I learned this lesson by getting stung in the early days of digital media.
I started buying songs on my phone, but when I changed service provider I lost access to the entire library.
I bought them out of convenience, and the second I did something for the sake of "convenience" I should have asked myself: what is the long con here?
Exactly. It only took a few iterations of this for me to learn that digital online copies are "rentals." I lost a handful of songs/movies when these providers changed or when I changed my phone, etc. so it's just not a smart way to go.
The physical world matters. Too much is being lost to the digital world. Media is just a small piece.
Cocoon is a wonderful film. I’ve got the steel book bluray. I think it was released a couple of years ago.
It reminds me of what happened with vinyl records when CDs became big. All the stores stopped selling vinyl and many titles became hard to find for a while.
If you're old enough to remember life before VCRs, the only way you could see a move after it left the theatres was to wait until it showed up on TV, even if it meant staying up late to see it. Films aren't nearly as obscure now as they were then.
Yep! And if you missed it when it aired on TV, well you were SOL.
It reminds of an episode of That 70's Show where Red buys a VCR and Kitty wants to watch Roots, but Red insists that they record Roots and then watch it after it's finished airing so they can fast forward thru the commercials. But Kitty is pissed off when Red discovers that he screwed up the recording because Kitty knows, as did everybody back then knew, "If you missed it, you missed it."
Life before VCRs? Wow you are old!!
And vinyl is coming back, so.
Did you know that there’s a "deactivate" list for blu rays? A studio adds a movie to the list, and it goes in the next firmware release for all the major player makers so the next time you update your firmware that particular disc stops working. To encourage people to update their firmware periodically, there's also a list of decryption keys, so periodically discs come out with a new key, forcing people to update firmware to get the latest key list. I own a couple of discs that only play on old firmware and a couple that only play on recent firmware.
And I love "Unearthed Films". They’re the folks who re-released "Rock and Rule".
...none of which matters if your player was manufactured before, you know, next year. So, um, why do you need a brand new player each year anyway...?
@@AttilaAsztalos You don’t need "a brand new player every year". But if you buy new discs every year, you may need a firmware update from time to time, as the studios release discs with new keys that your old firmware doesn’t have. That's when you’re forced to choose, update the firmware on your player to be compatible with the latest disc at the risk of having one or more older discs refusing to play with the new firmware. Remember, the company who contributed most to blu ray development in both hours and dollars was the same company that thought root kits in CDs was a good thing.
I understand the importance of owning physical media for archival/preservation purposes. But my issue with owning physical media is that it's very rare for me to ever re-watch the same movie enough to justify dedicating furniture space to it. It's more effective just to rent it on demand when I want to see it.
physical forever. I do regret selling some DVDs to upgrade their Blu/4K counterpart, as they ended up being edited versions of the film (like Toy Story 2 removing the casting couch gag)..same w/ their digital counterpart. I have burned copies of the OG Star Wars trilogy I rented From Netflix when they offered it
They removed that scene! You would think Disney would keep that scene being full of pea-doughs.
I made the same argument over Thanksgiving this year, and everyone at the table mocked me, saying “Where do you keep your eight track player?” Ha! I’ll get the last laugh.
You will! 🤘
I'm 48 and still have an 8 track player...
I would have tell them I have it my living room and serves me just fine. Your loss, guys.
@@vaderladyl I wish I had hung on to the old 8 track deck my dad gave me to play with when I was a kid, but at least I saved my dad's late 70s Japanese hifi from going to the thrift shop donation box when he decided to go to a more compact modern system.
I would tell them I keep my three 8 track tape players next to my 8 track tapes. And the tapes play just fine after some maintenance/servicing, thank you very much.
Totally agree. I silly movie called Johnny Dangerously with Micael Keaton was so funny when I was growing up. I ended up having to buy a used DVD to share it with the family. Turns out everyone gets sensitive when the villains says his 88 magnum shots through schools.
A very underrated movie. I haven't seen it in years. I still remember the character who used terms like 'Fargon Iceholes'. And Danny Vermin "My father did that to me once, once:. Just a great fun movie.
The loss of information and culture from our era (when companies go out of business and servers shut down) will be SO significant, that it will make the loss of the library of Alexandria seem like a historical footnote.
It's crazy how much historical TV and cinema is not accessible on streaming. Even crazier that the high budget "The Last Voyage of the Demeter" didn't even come to the UK in any form whatsoever.
This is why my "OG" Fast and Furious and True Lies ares on DVD that is handled very carefully with no scratches!
Thankfully they have just recently announced a 4K for True Lies is coming, although oddly it skipped Blu-Ray which is kinda funny
@@mrcritical6751True Lies skipped the whole era of blu ray due to James Cameron working on his Avatar franchise
@@mrcritical6751 Cameron#s butchered it with AI upscaling.
The Virgin Streaming vs The Chad Physical Media. Cocoon is an underrated gem.
Pirate Kings just laughing at people spending money buying movies made 40 years ago.
One other point: Streaming services also often trim scenes. A friend and I watch films/TV virtually (I have physical copies, she streams). We often notice streaming trims out small scenes or changes a few things, or speeds up the movie tempo slightly. A minor issue now but who knows the future?
Better Call Saul is only available in 4k via Netflix...
Where's my 4k bluray boxset damnit!
I had Cocoon on VHS back in the day. For some reason, my folks got a few CBS Fox films at the same time (Short Circuit, SpaceCamp (which is one of my all time favs, but not seen it in about 30 years??) Romancing the Stone, Predator etc). Dunno if there was some kind of promo at the time. That CBS intro jingle is ingrained on my brain and has been since the early 90s.