@@Naized I believe firstgear meant to respond to fookie-fone's comment above about the sound of the Z06's flat plane crank V-8 but, was just a bit outside.
If you've ever heard one in person, it'll make your whole body tingle. Videos just don't do it justice, I couldn't believe how loud it was when I first got mine. Hard to believe it's stock!
Two years ago I built an Emira and submitted it to Lotus. Star Motors out of Houston was my closest dealer. Not one email or phone call in months. Put an order in for a 22 GT500 and actually have been owning it since Nov 22, modified it, makes 875whp. Very happy...
Bought a Z06 with the crazy aero. Took it to Mosport… and became very afraid. The car was so good, my mind couldn’t understand how it was making it around the corners at such speeds. Can’t wait for the spring.
Glad you drive your car and not too the grocery store haha....Ya Mosport is the fastest track in North America best to be afraid. That track is like a Cougar at a night club and you just turned 19 haha
Tracked my friends z06 3lz carbon wheels and brakes package. Oh. My. God. I immediately told him im buying one for myself because i have yet to find a more surgical car
Oooh, does the video end with them burning the Corvette? (yeah yeah, I know it was the British that did over Washington but let's go with the popular misconception here...).
Sad to hear that emira did not join the TH family. BUT it is stupid how long the delay was. You guys made the right call, great content thanks for making it!
I know I made a comment quite some time ago that there are dealerships in the US with them on the lot. Naples Motor Sports in Naples, FL has had scores of them for about a year. So, they could have cancelled the ordered vehicle and found one close to, if not spot on, to their desired spec and just picked it up. Not sure if they were getting a deal on pricing with the one they were ordering.
its not even a Lotus anymore Mate. Its a Chinese own company now hence the undertsteer, lol . but seriously its own by Geely, state run and the fastest growing car company in the world .they also own Volvo, smart, polestar and the London ev company .
@@BeethovensLaguerreRacing That exactly explains the big back log for people ordering the Emiras. The vast majority of cars that were first off the assembly line were slated to go to China!
@@tomatodamashi Canadian here but also egalitarian. Do you get to choose how to pronouce the name of a person or do you pronounce it as they wish you would. You can pick an choose and split hairs but it has a name, an American name.
Indeed it is, although Corvette's have always been known as poor mans sports cars or budget sports cars. The ZR1's are known as supercar killers, and, well, they are. They've got a pretty successful history on the track, have some good times on the Nurburgring etc...I think it's actually rather nice of General Motors to have provided the average person an affordable, competitive sports car for so long. Now, at the beginning of the EV era it seems right that they're making a proper mid engine supercar in the C8 ZR1. Going out with a bang if you were
Your video was a big part of the reason I bought my Emira. Have had it for 9 months now and love it. It did end up on a tow truck with under 1000km on the odometer though. 😂 Congrats on the now 1 year old, James!
Hey man, I’m a long time fan of your videos! I couldn’t keep up, though. Finally threw in the towel with iRacing. The amount of fun I was having just didn’t justify what I had invested in my sim rig. Enjoy the Lotus!! 🇨🇦 🇬🇧
should have have bought a v 8. sorry figure U are an influencer from reply`s. oh well live and learn. or keep cars for clicks. if a true car guy would buy the best car for the best money. of course, hey if you love it despite it`s faults all I can say is I understand and happy drives
@@johncena-hq1ti looks like the zora is gonna be around 1200 hp, the zr1 is 1,064 rwd, and the zora will most likely have awd and the hybrid from the e ray pushing it to a minimum of 1,200 hp which is going to be crazy to see
I am pretty sure they used to do that, but that is also a difficult thing to do editing-wise, and I think they just recently had someone leave the team, so it might have been the editor. That, or doing something that advanced may have been deemed not worth the effort. OR maybe that was planned, but they ran out of time to edit it and just had to send it without that part.
This is absolute top tier production, you guys keep exceeding yourselves in the best way possible. Also thumbs up to the sound designer/editor for having that ambient piece when showing the car stats - standardize that!
@@kamprikorn bro, these high end cars rentings have trackers on these cars. You drive hard one of them and they'll limit or disable the car entirely. You cant rent a super car and push it. Not for 800 bucks a day at least. It costed 3000$ to buy a circuit package for a 3 lap package on a track with a ferrari or a porsche.
@@AI-qd4vb it depends which company you go with. the one i rented from had a tracker but we pushed it anyways and it wasnt limited or disabled. if its not on the agreement then they cant do it.
GT3 RS dethroned on track...yeah thats hard to swallow. Plane wing vs brute force, on a small track the force wins. Good thing Round 2 is coming around, GT2 RS vs Zora will be insane to watch
Hi Guys. Love your work. For those of us that can’t afford expensive cars (I’m a physiotherapist in Australia so I make a reasonable living and I still can’t afford cars like the Z06 and Lotus Emira!), watching the fun you two have, the genuine camaraderie and the great car reviews, it’s unsurprising that your RUclips channel is growing almost exponentially. Keep up the fun!
A while back I tried to make the same comparison between these exact cars and no one out there had compared them truly. Since then I decided on and bought a z06 and got it a couple weeks ago. I am in love! Just a weapon of a car.
The only real argument for the Z06 not being a supercar is that it's not $690,000 with only 420 produced. Regular well off people can conceivably get one. The Incredibles said it better than I could: "when everyone's super, no one will be."
That’s my thoughts, this video was just evidence of what happens when a really high end sports car goes up against a low-end supercar. As a Brit my money will always be with the lotus, but that Corvette was mind bending-ly fast, and a 2 fingered salute to Porsche
People have scuffed the terms so badly, they're meaningless, just use them how you feel..... To be completely cliche, it was better back-in-the-day when there was only "exotic sports cars" and supercars. If it was a normal series production car, 911 (any trim), F355, DB7, etc, it was the former. F40, XJ220, McL F1, etc, were the supercars. Then the term Hypercar come around, and it's all jumbled now. People call the Revuelto a hypercar, I could disagree more.... I can't remember the last time I've heard the phrase "exotic sports car."
The Z06 IS a super car, it’s just not a European/“exotic” super car. But make no mistake, it’s no “mere” sports car, it’s a super car, point blank. The Emira is a high end sports car; there’s nothing “super” about it outside of its amazing looks.
IMO the z06 just has a supercar engine. The car is very heavy and in a lot of ways not built like most supercars if you dig into the details. Chevy throws a lot of HP at it to help bring the perf numbers back up. It undoubtedly achieves there. Subjectively, these cars have very little visual appeal to me. I spend maybe 3s checking them out when I pass them.
@@slideways8022 Surely the Emira is for modding, anyway? You can stick whatever engine you want in it, or crank its standard engines up to silly horsepower.
@@markw9512 As someone who owns a Gen V Viper, and tracks it, the Kumho tires aren't remotely to the level of the new Cup 2Rs tires. They are better than the Cup 2 standard tire, but not the Cup2R.....however, they currently do not make the Cup 2 R tire in the sizes of Vipers. The ACR would in fact be .5-1s faster with those tires than with the current Kumho setup.
Honestly love you Throttle House gents. I got my emira a month ago, and I have to say it is absolutely intoxicating. She's beautiful, she sounds exceptional, and she's fast (genuinely 4.5 is plenty). 2nd gear takes you close to 70 and the sound is out of this world. That supercharger just does not stop. I haven't driven ferrari or genuine supercars but I cannot imagine needing anything more. I've had middle aged women in Wimbledon stop me and tell me how nice it is. I've had kids and grown adults alike compliment me, and every drive is an absolute pleasure. I'm obsessed and I have not looked back.
I have been waiting for you two to have the Z06 and put it through the paces. I had hoped that it would beat the Viper ACR on your track, but to see it beat the GT3 RS... WOW!!! I think its a beautiful machine, the interior is finally done correctly with a Corvette, and the performance you get for the price.. its a Supercar. Well done on another banger video.
I’ve been waiting a long time to find out if the C8 Z06 puts down a faster lap time than the C7 ZR1. I was not expecting the Z06 to beat EVERYTHING including the freakin 911 GT3 RS!!!🤯
In a bigger track, the GT3 RS will win, it posts better times overall. IMO, the Z06 was targeting the regular GT3, which still has aero, but looking at cornering speeds, they were nearly neck and neck. GT3 RS aero is a step above both and allows for faster cornering speeds, enough to negate Z06 power advantage. GT3 RS is a much more track-focused machine, even as much as both the GT3 and Z06 are already very track focused. It'll be close, but there's enough data on the GT3 RS out there now to know it's a little tick above the Z06...and the GT3 is a little below.
It's been a few episodes, and a comments since I last posted this very same message, but Throttle House IS (in my opinion) the greatest Car review channel out there!
One word: Nostrils! This is why they are among the best out there. Wit & humour (spelled incorrectly for James’ benefit) on top of genuine enthusiasm and knowledge of autos - makes them exceptional!
@@NegativoZ06 not the 1/4mi track and I have yet to seen a side by side race with BOTH on Cup2rs.. So far they give numbers running with the ps4s.. Cup2s make a difference. Then also 2 it depends on the Track. Ones with long stretches no doubt the Z06 will do great.. but ones like these guys used with lots of turns. It would be a nice show for them to do one with both cars. For some reason no one really has for some reason head to head.
It would be. As a die hard Corvette guy, the GT2RS will probably be faster on most tracks, maybe with the exception of some like VIR. But overall performance and road driving would be fun to compare.
@@Marcello2005 yeah, I have to remind myself that a gt3RS has only about 500 n/a hp to show those lap times, I can only imagine what a gt2rs with ~800hp will show. Although if a Zora is planned to be a 1000hp awd hybrid monster, then it will be interesting to see. The zr1 will be probably a zo6 with turbos bolted to it.
I'd end up spending more on Michelin Cup 2Rs than I make annually. LOL , Best bang for the buck being made right now, imho. Have a good weekend, cheers !
Harry Metcalf mentioned that the Emira has a sports alignment and a track alignment. Seems like this had the former and explains the understeer. But damn that Corvette
Honestly, how does a company that prominent not have someone in charge of making sure people with an audience don’t experience their awful delivery times? It’s baffling.
The Corvette showing up everyone yet again. Every generation since the C6 has been THE CAR to beat, and the C8 is no different. PLUS I heard one the other day and wow, what a sound. 10s across the board (actually minus 2 for no manual but alas) And the Lotus… 👁️👄👁️ look at it
Such a proper car review. The benchmark. All other youtubers that test sportscars on public roads tooling around town telling everyone how great or horrible a car is should be ashamed.
Yay, New content from TH. Edit, Dear James, where did you come up with the analogy about someone's girlfriend's erogenous zone being her nostril to describe the steering of the Z06? How does your mind work? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So one last thing. Do we noww need to retest most cars with Cup 2 tires then?
just subtract 2 seconds for high performance cars and 4-5 seconds for normal ones..that's roughly the amount of time Cup 2s would save on each lap. The Cayman GTS would def beat the Emira if it used the same tires I'm honestly a little disappointed with the Z06's time given what it got in Car and Driver's Lightning Lap competition
Z06 home track time…unreal. Smh. Can’t wait for your next road trip. Last one was so good! Thank you for all the unbelievable content! Easily my favorite show!
I started following you guys a little after you start and within the first year of following you became my favourite Canadian car reviewers. Keep up the great work
Love my C8Z htc, had for 17 months. The front and side views are beautiful. The rear could use a little work, emira rear is beautiful and side profile.
@@vettesweetnos Honestly I don’t see anything beautiful about the Emira. I think it’s bit overrated in the aesthetics department. Looks rather bland tbh but not a bad looking car by any means. Now this 2023 Z06/Z07 70th Anniversary Edition in Carbon Flash looks absolutely stunning.
I don't want to sound too cliché, but I'm so happy your show exists. With the loss of Top Gear run by our favorite three amigos, I was at a loss of car entertainment, yet serious, thoughtful reviews. Keep up the good work gentlemen, you are a sigh of relief for all of us gearheads. I would say that you have better chemistry, because at the end of all the bantering, it feels like you have a profound respect for each other. Carry on!
What a superb video this was, can't get enough of your content. Love the cinematography and the sound, congrats to everyone in the post production crew!
The Z06 is the greatest sports car ever made. When considering daily drivability, cost of ownership, amenities, and performance, it's the GOAT hands DOWN
When I see these videos and focus on the entry points on the curve and all the technical stuff on the track I quickly notice that as a Driver James is heavily underrated.
I knew the Z06 would probably beat the C7 ZR1 and the base 992 GT3, but I would've never expected a convertible Z06 on the aluminum wheels to beat a GT3 RS on any track. I'm sure there are even more tenths to shave off with the carbon fiber wheels and the coupe taking off another 150 lbs.
@@hummingbird9149 You probably aren't wrong, but again, adding the carbon wheels and switching to the coupe would shave off more time. Even being close to the GT3RS is a win at half the price.
@@diverxpl I mean it has 150+ more horsepower than the GT3, and some very big grippy tires, so Im not surprised its fast. But on most race tracks the GT3 RS is going to be faster (regular GT3 as well, if they're very twisty), due simply to how much faster it can go through corners and how much later it can brake before them. Hagerty did a racetrack (willow springs) comparison with a real racing driver, and despite some long straights, the GT3 RS still beat the Z06 by half a sec.
@@diverxplThe GT3 RS beat the Z06 couple with carbon wheels around Willow Springs by 7tenths, and that unlike this was a fair test with both cars running on the same track and same day.
@@1uckedoutlook at a photo of the two and you will see the difference. You can't see the engine with the convertible, it only has a small rear window, among other details
Not only that, this Z06 is not equipped with carbon fiber wheels. I'm sure a Z06 - Z07 coupe with the carbon wheels would be at least half a second faster
@@Luke-cb3ly Seems a little weird to not even mention that. When you have a car competing with the top of the leader board you shouldn't give it a handicap like that without saying anything to your viewers.
I love Porsche's, my dream is a GT3, but this new Corvette has everything the GT3 RS has. The engine is just as special. The looks have grown on me, you can drive it without looking like you're heading to Le Mans... The feel? Don't know, haven't driven one... But to be honest, even here in europe where the Z06 is 200k Euros, the Z06 would be the car to buy between these two... Would still prefer a manual GT3 tho. Now I am going back to my bicycle.
@@WindyCity1992 You have no idea what you're talking about. Z06 is a track car that can behave nicely on regular roads, the E-Ray is a GT car that is also really good on the track.
Put it this way, a used lotus mira cost $143k CAD and a brand new C8 corvette 1LT cost $91k CAD (and would still match the mira on any track with the regular base 6.2L V8). If it were my money, I'd take the C8
Love your videos, guys! Thanks! Of course you knew it wasn’t a battle, but a slaughter! By the way, I think the Emira wouldn’t be faster than the Cayman GTS or the Corvette Z51 if it wasn’t for the Cup 2. But you knew that too! 😂
I mean, TBF, they don't really have a single undisputed super car on the leaderboard. They're a bunch of cars like the corvette that people argue about whether or not they make the cut. Some people consider the GT3 RS a super car, some argue the only 2 911s that qualify are the GT2 RS and Turbo S. Some people would say the Viper ACR is a super car, some people argue it isn't. They need to get some undisputed supercars like a SF90 or the new lambo around the track, so we have a good comparison.
My z06 was built on Wednesday, and I can't wait to pick it up. That said, it's not really a "supercar" because it doesn't have the exclusivity element. It's a bargain sports car with "supercar" performance.
The scientific thing to do would be to run a “calibration standard” car (something generic that they’d keep indefinitely) on every test day to account for changes in driver skill and ambient conditions. If they did that, they could even apply a correction factor to the test car to standardize all the results.
I have a similar story. I gave a dealership, which is 80 miles away, a $2500 deposit on an Emira. But after one year and reading countless reliability/quality horror stories by owners in the UK, I pulled the deposit and eventually found a 2024 45th Anniv. Supra at a local dealership. One year later, I'm glad I did. I spent $30k less, yet still have a very unique car that is reliable, easy to maintain, handles extremely well has a pass-through hatch, and is just as fast/quick as the Emira.
yeah like any lightweight sportscar/supercar that is somehow track focused. I can't see how they wouldn't make a more extreme version of this car on ceramic brakes, some lighter bits of carbon, more aero and stiffer/lower suspension. it well sell at a highe price and it's an easy way to get more attention from media/social media.
They have! But not road legal… The real track version, is called Evorora gt430/410. Higer redline, less weight, more analog and for the gt410 less understeer.
I can tell you why, the new Chinese owners are not interested in the Lotus philosophy only in it for the name & battery tech moving forward for speed@geemy9675
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Okay I died when James thought Thomas's impressions of a whimsical butterfly was actually of him😂
I hope you get better.
RIP. Funny, you were able to type the comment after you died.
Ow but James is a whimsical butterfly isn't he
Well staged, right?
That butterfly set James up.
Getting out of an Emira and into a C8 Z06. Not a bad day, this one.
then your head will explode if u ever hear a v10 or v12 in person
@@psychinbruhwhat is bro yapping about
@@Naized I believe firstgear meant to respond to fookie-fone's comment above about the sound of the Z06's flat plane crank V-8 but, was just a bit outside.
Famous quote from the Hamster when he was in Dubai to race a Veyron against an F1 driven by the Stig.
@@psychinbruh i have. my ears climaxed.
That noise from the flat plane V8 in the Z06 made my nostrils tingle.
10:25
If you've ever heard one in person, it'll make your whole body tingle. Videos just don't do it justice, I couldn't believe how loud it was when I first got mine. Hard to believe it's stock!
Truly turns the nostrils into an erogenous zone
I think that's the Miami Columbian ... BaKinG SoDa.
Chewing 5 gum will do that too.
Two years ago I built an Emira and submitted it to Lotus. Star Motors out of Houston was my closest dealer. Not one email or phone call in months. Put an order in for a 22 GT500 and actually have been owning it since Nov 22, modified it, makes 875whp. Very happy...
Much better choice, (salute)
Why do we care how much horsepower it makes? Some sort of measuring contest?
He was just saying no need to talk about his johnson size bro@@oldanslo
@@oldansloyeah, it measures power.
@@cloudsmith7803 better choice??? 🤣 hell naw
Bought a Z06 with the crazy aero. Took it to Mosport… and became very afraid. The car was so good, my mind couldn’t understand how it was making it around the corners at such speeds.
Can’t wait for the spring.
Awesome brother. My old man used to race at mosport way back when. I'd love to get there too one day
Glad you drive your car and not too the grocery store haha....Ya Mosport is the fastest track in North America best to be afraid. That track is like a Cougar at a night club and you just turned 19 haha
Tracked my friends z06 3lz carbon wheels and brakes package. Oh. My. God. I immediately told him im buying one for myself because i have yet to find a more surgical car
The Canadians organizing a rematch of the war of 1812 was not on my 2024 bingo card.
😂😂
Wtf 😄
Oooh, does the video end with them burning the Corvette? (yeah yeah, I know it was the British that did over Washington but let's go with the popular misconception here...).
That’s one way of putting it 🤣
Nobody wants to see the asininity of the War of 1812 again...
Sad to hear that emira did not join the TH family. BUT it is stupid how long the delay was. You guys made the right call, great content thanks for making it!
I can’t imagine waiting 2+ years for a $100k sports car just to find out your feet are too big to drive it.
I know I made a comment quite some time ago that there are dealerships in the US with them on the lot. Naples Motor Sports in Naples, FL has had scores of them for about a year. So, they could have cancelled the ordered vehicle and found one close to, if not spot on, to their desired spec and just picked it up. Not sure if they were getting a deal on pricing with the one they were ordering.
its not even a Lotus anymore Mate. Its a Chinese own company now hence the undertsteer, lol . but seriously its own by Geely, state run and the fastest growing car company in the world .they also own Volvo, smart, polestar and the London ev company .
@@BeethovensLaguerreRacing That exactly explains the big back log for people ordering the Emiras. The vast majority of cars that were first off the assembly line were slated to go to China!
@@dougt5357lotus is dead to me now. I don’t care if they go out of business. They’re going down with daddy Geely.
Z06 was so fast it made a Brit and a Canadian say "Zee"
Americans named the Z06 and they say "zee" so it's a "zee"06. That's what it's called.
@@fraserhenderson7839 That is not the point lol.
As George Washington once said: what the fuck is a kilometer?!??? 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
@@fraserhenderson7839 As if Americans called things named by Canadians, Brits and Aussies with "zed"
@@tomatodamashi Canadian here but also egalitarian. Do you get to choose how to pronouce the name of a person or do you pronounce it as they wish you would. You can pick an choose and split hairs but it has a name, an American name.
Z06 on the top of the leader board made me yell as if it was a goal in soccer 😂😂😂
I too got insanely pumped USA USA USA
football
@@pffff you're absolutely right brother. Football. Full stop
Kinda crazy how far the Corvette has come lol, now in the same discussion as Porsche's best. Wild
Indeed it is, although Corvette's have always been known as poor mans sports cars or budget sports cars. The ZR1's are known as supercar killers, and, well, they are. They've got a pretty successful history on the track, have some good times on the Nurburgring etc...I think it's actually rather nice of General Motors to have provided the average person an affordable, competitive sports car for so long. Now, at the beginning of the EV era it seems right that they're making a proper mid engine supercar in the C8 ZR1. Going out with a bang if you were
LOL! Please tell me you don't actually believe this stupid crap! :)))
It’s literally been in that discussion since the C5. Eurosnobs just don’t acknowledge that
I got a Z06 HTC last month
And the car is way over my expectations
The sound is addictive
I'm in love ❤️
Congratulations on the purchase dude!
Awesome mate congrats on your purchase.
Got mine in June!! Great car!
Congrats! What an incredible car!
Congrats I’m waiting for the zr1 but I’m tempted to get the zo6
Your video was a big part of the reason I bought my Emira. Have had it for 9 months now and love it. It did end up on a tow truck with under 1000km on the odometer though. 😂
Congrats on the now 1 year old, James!
no way didn't realize you got an emira too! i watched your channel religiously when i first got my FRS and your channel was project brz
Lol sheesh. Crazy when I see another sim racing guy. Big fan of your channel too
Hey man, I’m a long time fan of your videos! I couldn’t keep up, though. Finally threw in the towel with iRacing. The amount of fun I was having just didn’t justify what I had invested in my sim rig.
Enjoy the Lotus!!
🇨🇦 🇬🇧
should have have bought a v 8. sorry figure U are an influencer from reply`s. oh well live and learn. or keep cars for clicks. if a true car guy would buy the best car for the best money. of course, hey if you love it despite it`s faults all I can say is I understand and happy drives
@@richardmead5969 calm down mate
Damn, now I can’t wait til they put down a lap time in the upcoming C8 ZR1!!!
Ford GTD might try but for $350,000 yikes
@romanthomas2.0 cars like the Ferrari 488 Pista or the Mclaren 765lt are definitely some competition. Love vetts but we'll see 💯
Yes, especially since its reveal and 1064 hp twin turbo flat plane crank 5.5 ltr.
@@8bert9 now that we know... 🔥🔥🔥
233mph is insane
That Lotus Emira is so beautiful. That supercharger whine is also the cherry on top!
I was waiting so patiently to see the Z06 on the home track. So pleased that it finally happened!
Corvette Z06: Olympic gold medal winning super model who also has a master's degree in physics.
true. best bang for buck on the planet
Her family is a bunch of bible thumping rednecks who love guns.
…who happens to be the girl next door you used to go skinny dipping with. In other words…not completely made of unobtainium.
Best bang?
True except one of these will turn heads and it's not the vette
James has a way with words, I would buy a book of his poetry.
I’d say that for Thomas 😂
Come here my blossoming rose
Let me touch you in your nose
You will feel it to your toes
And theres still another trim above the Z06 being revealed next week. Nuts
Possibly TWO trims above the Z06; the ZR1 and the code name Zora!
Zora will be a 1000hp awd gt2rs competitor 😎
@@johncena-hq1ti
And capable of attaining low-earth orbit from a standing start....
2 trims zr1 and zora
@@johncena-hq1ti looks like the zora is gonna be around 1200 hp, the zr1 is 1,064 rwd, and the zora will most likely have awd and the hybrid from the e ray pushing it to a minimum of 1,200 hp which is going to be crazy to see
It's crazy how fucking beautiful that Lotus is though. It's an absolute all timer, literally can't get over it.
It is amazing to see that the Corvette C8 Z06 was able to beat the magnificent Porsche 992 GT3RS at the track.
oh man that Z06's sound is just something else
It would be cool to see a map of the track and where you are on it while hot lapping!
This is a stellar idea actually. If the editor could make this happen I'd LOVE that so much.
Drone!
Great idea! You see that all the time with cars at the Nurburgring.
I am pretty sure they used to do that, but that is also a difficult thing to do editing-wise, and I think they just recently had someone leave the team, so it might have been the editor. That, or doing something that advanced may have been deemed not worth the effort. OR maybe that was planned, but they ran out of time to edit it and just had to send it without that part.
I ordered an Emira after watching your Emira video. I also cancelled my Emira order after delays. Next week my Z06 is getting manufactured!
How hard was it to get a Z06 allocation?
@@Alpha99333 My local dealer had a long wait but I called a higher volume dealer that had no wait and sold at MSRP. Worth the 1.5 hour drive.
Man after seeing this car omg you bought a work of art
@@barryrodgers3039 Good to know. I plan on ordering a 2025 model towards the end of this year, so hopefully I get similar luck.
Congrats! Mine was built last month and I pick it up in Bowling Green next week. Worth the wait for MSRP.
That supercharger whine, it never gets old!
This is absolute top tier production, you guys keep exceeding yourselves in the best way possible. Also thumbs up to the sound designer/editor for having that ambient piece when showing the car stats - standardize that!
That Z06 is amazing. I'll probably never drive one, but if I win the lottery there will be signs...
Like a street sign? A vision? Perhaps you're envisioning yourself wrapped around a tree at about 140? 😂
I was actually disappointed going into the Z06 coming from my 720s. Steering felt AWFUL. But the engine is great.
i rented a urus in miami with 2 other guys for $850 for the day.. divide that by 3 its only around $260. fix your mindset and go drive one bro
@@kamprikorn bro, these high end cars rentings have trackers on these cars. You drive hard one of them and they'll limit or disable the car entirely. You cant rent a super car and push it. Not for 800 bucks a day at least. It costed 3000$ to buy a circuit package for a 3 lap package on a track with a ferrari or a porsche.
@@AI-qd4vb it depends which company you go with. the one i rented from had a tracker but we pushed it anyways and it wasnt limited or disabled. if its not on the agreement then they cant do it.
GT3 RS dethroned on track...yeah thats hard to swallow. Plane wing vs brute force, on a small track the force wins. Good thing Round 2 is coming around, GT2 RS vs Zora will be insane to watch
The Zora will be insane!!!
Maybe the ZR1 high spec
videos never do justice to how incredible that corvette sounds
Hi Guys. Love your work. For those of us that can’t afford expensive cars (I’m a physiotherapist in Australia so I make a reasonable living and I still can’t afford cars like the Z06 and Lotus Emira!), watching the fun you two have, the genuine camaraderie and the great car reviews, it’s unsurprising that your RUclips channel is growing almost exponentially. Keep up the fun!
A while back I tried to make the same comparison between these exact cars and no one out there had compared them truly. Since then I decided on and bought a z06 and got it a couple weeks ago. I am in love! Just a weapon of a car.
The only real argument for the Z06 not being a supercar is that it's not $690,000 with only 420 produced. Regular well off people can conceivably get one. The Incredibles said it better than I could: "when everyone's super, no one will be."
That’s my thoughts, this video was just evidence of what happens when a really high end sports car goes up against a low-end supercar. As a Brit my money will always be with the lotus, but that Corvette was mind bending-ly fast, and a 2 fingered salute to Porsche
People have scuffed the terms so badly, they're meaningless, just use them how you feel..... To be completely cliche, it was better back-in-the-day when there was only "exotic sports cars" and supercars. If it was a normal series production car, 911 (any trim), F355, DB7, etc, it was the former. F40, XJ220, McL F1, etc, were the supercars. Then the term Hypercar come around, and it's all jumbled now. People call the Revuelto a hypercar, I could disagree more.... I can't remember the last time I've heard the phrase "exotic sports car."
The Z06 IS a super car, it’s just not a European/“exotic” super car. But make no mistake, it’s no “mere” sports car, it’s a super car, point blank.
The Emira is a high end sports car; there’s nothing “super” about it outside of its amazing looks.
IMO the z06 just has a supercar engine. The car is very heavy and in a lot of ways not built like most supercars if you dig into the details. Chevy throws a lot of HP at it to help bring the perf numbers back up. It undoubtedly achieves there.
Subjectively, these cars have very little visual appeal to me. I spend maybe 3s checking them out when I pass them.
@@slideways8022 Surely the Emira is for modding, anyway? You can stick whatever engine you want in it, or crank its standard engines up to silly horsepower.
Viper ACR needs to come back on Cup 2 tires.... Battle of the big Americans 😊
Look up GT2RS vs ACR
It beat the GT2RS on equal tires
On Cup2Rs it beats alot of cars
The ACR they tested, if I remember properly, wasn't the extreme version..
The original OEM tires for the Viper ACR were bespoke R compound tires made specifically for that car. Cup 2’s won’t bring that much to the table.
@@markw9512 As someone who owns a Gen V Viper, and tracks it, the Kumho tires aren't remotely to the level of the new Cup 2Rs tires. They are better than the Cup 2 standard tire, but not the Cup2R.....however, they currently do not make the Cup 2 R tire in the sizes of Vipers. The ACR would in fact be .5-1s faster with those tires than with the current Kumho setup.
@@hprracingchannel I’ve heard different about the tires. Even if true, it would need a hell of a lot more than a half to 1 second to beat a Z06.
" begin to have an accident" lol
😂😂😂👍
I heard this in Jeremy Clarksons voice
Honestly love you Throttle House gents. I got my emira a month ago, and I have to say it is absolutely intoxicating. She's beautiful, she sounds exceptional, and she's fast (genuinely 4.5 is plenty). 2nd gear takes you close to 70 and the sound is out of this world. That supercharger just does not stop. I haven't driven ferrari or genuine supercars but I cannot imagine needing anything more. I've had middle aged women in Wimbledon stop me and tell me how nice it is. I've had kids and grown adults alike compliment me, and every drive is an absolute pleasure. I'm obsessed and I have not looked back.
Put a Larini exhaust on it. I did and it sounds proper supercar amazing.
It’s fast…if ur used to driving a Corolla
My Mustang is that fast and it’s $34k new🤯😂
@@coryu2403 is it morefun to drive? is it looks better? i think NOT
@@coryu2403until you go to the track 😂
I have been waiting for you two to have the Z06 and put it through the paces. I had hoped that it would beat the Viper ACR on your track, but to see it beat the GT3 RS... WOW!!! I think its a beautiful machine, the interior is finally done correctly with a Corvette, and the performance you get for the price.. its a Supercar. Well done on another banger video.
This is what I love about cars. These two are as different as you can get with 2 seat sports cars but both seem exceedingly fun.
It's really a GT3RS lap time for a third of the price, thanks to Porsche dealers' $200k markups.
If you ever wondered what that Porsche badge on the front of a GT3RS is worth, you have your answer!
That’s also assuming you can even get an allocation for a GT3RS, they’re hard enough to even get the OPTION to buy one
@@lebojay Can you just put a lightweight Porsche sticker badge on a Beetle? "Basically the same" 🙂
In the UK it’s 190k vs 150k so it’s not that huge of a difference.
so much disrespect for the GT3RS, Yall must have never driven or owned a Porsche lol
I’ve been waiting a long time to find out if the C8 Z06 puts down a faster lap time than the C7 ZR1.
I was not expecting the Z06 to beat EVERYTHING including the freakin 911 GT3 RS!!!🤯
And it was the convertible Z06, no less. The coupe is about 100lbs lighter still.
Also without the carbon fiber rims!
In a bigger track, the GT3 RS will win, it posts better times overall. IMO, the Z06 was targeting the regular GT3, which still has aero, but looking at cornering speeds, they were nearly neck and neck. GT3 RS aero is a step above both and allows for faster cornering speeds, enough to negate Z06 power advantage. GT3 RS is a much more track-focused machine, even as much as both the GT3 and Z06 are already very track focused. It'll be close, but there's enough data on the GT3 RS out there now to know it's a little tick above the Z06...and the GT3 is a little below.
@@JamesNoBrakeswrong. Bigger track comes with longer straightaways which will be in favor of the Z06 since it comes with more power.
@@David-jh8mp Bigger tracks let the increased downforce of the GT3 RS at higher speeds work better, so it still turns faster times.
Thanks for answering my question on your last video about your Lotus Emira order with this amazing video! Makes it even sweeter as a Z06 owner ❤
It's been a few episodes, and a comments since I last posted this very same message, but Throttle House IS (in my opinion) the greatest Car review channel out there!
That Z06 is a true work of art OMG!!!
One word: Nostrils! This is why they are among the best out there. Wit & humour (spelled incorrectly for James’ benefit) on top of genuine enthusiasm and knowledge of autos - makes them exceptional!
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Yes 🙌 Throttle House drops are my new drug!
Great review guys, the Lotus get it for the looks, but that sound of the Vet is intoxicating. The Fiesta Flash
that emira looks gorgeous
I can’t wait for the E-Ray track review along with the ZR1 and Zora. GM really killed it with the C8
E-Ray is slower than Z06 on track but faster than Stringer
The e-Ray and z06 are probably my favorite specs
@@NegativoZ06 not the 1/4mi track and I have yet to seen a side by side race with BOTH on Cup2rs.. So far they give numbers running with the ps4s.. Cup2s make a difference. Then also 2 it depends on the Track. Ones with long stretches no doubt the Z06 will do great.. but ones like these guys used with lots of turns. It would be a nice show for them to do one with both cars. For some reason no one really has for some reason head to head.
ZR1/Zora vs 992 GT2 RS in the future would be crazy
It would be. As a die hard Corvette guy, the GT2RS will probably be faster on most tracks, maybe with the exception of some like VIR. But overall performance and road driving would be fun to compare.
@@Marcello2005 yeah, I have to remind myself that a gt3RS has only about 500 n/a hp to show those lap times, I can only imagine what a gt2rs with ~800hp will show. Although if a Zora is planned to be a 1000hp awd hybrid monster, then it will be interesting to see. The zr1 will be probably a zo6 with turbos bolted to it.
@@Marcello2005It all depends how much aero they are going to give for Zr1. If its something crazy like Gt3rs then it might have a chance
The back and forth in this video is just spectacular.
That Z06/Z07 is such a beautiful art work, specially in that limited Special 70th Anniversary Edition, just WOW.
I’ve never been this excited for a throttle house video
For me the z06 would have me staining the back of my pants,the Emira would have staining the front.
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Oh look, the perfect comment.
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I'd end up spending more on Michelin Cup 2Rs than I make annually. LOL , Best bang for the buck being made right now, imho. Have a good weekend, cheers !
I'm admittedly a Corvette hater but competing with, much less beating, the GT3 RS for half the price is impressive.
I was also never a fan of the corvette. However, the c8 generation not only looks amazing, but performance per dollar is insane. I am now a fan.
Woah...that Z06 is incredible
Interesting that they dwelled on the Emira beating the Cayman but didn’t realize or point out that it beat the Z51 version of the C8
Which you would hope for that! Considering the Emira is more expensive than a Z51 C8 is!
Harry Metcalf mentioned that the Emira has a sports alignment and a track alignment. Seems like this had the former and explains the understeer.
But damn that Corvette
The zo6 is a monster really
It really is
That Zo6, though ..really looks good in black..😊
That’s because in black you see less of it.
I was about to say the same thing. It looks like a monster.
@@lebojay agreed, it hides some of the questionable styling on the c8
@@lebojay Something only a hater would say. This car looks magnificent in any color.
@@lebojay Hater.
Lotus sold pretty hard here. Missed out on all that free PR😂
Honestly, how does a company that prominent not have someone in charge of making sure people with an audience don’t experience their awful delivery times? It’s baffling.
But given the reported reliability problems, maybe Lotus dodged a bullet
@@quattroCrazyyou would be surprised how many companies don't like money
@@quattroCrazy that's assuming it's not a disaster of a car
It's honestly very good. It was a tough decision, but I love my Emira and have had zero issues with it. It's a joy to drive at any speed.
The best car channel ever by far! Love the humor and everything else. Congrats guys.
I canceled mine as well for the same reasons... Delays and price kept going up... Ended up with a low mile 21 Evora GT... No regrets! Love the Evora!
The Corvette showing up everyone yet again. Every generation since the C6 has been THE CAR to beat, and the C8 is no different. PLUS I heard one the other day and wow, what a sound. 10s across the board (actually minus 2 for no manual but alas)
And the Lotus… 👁️👄👁️ look at it
Corvettes, Mustangs and a Viper in the top 10! Love to see it! Especially the mustangs :)
Can't say American cars can't turn anymore.
And the Z06 is the only car
To use equal tires as the GT3RS
And the AMG Black Series
@@cs1375
American cars have been turning
Since the 60s. This is a toxic car
Community, they will always use
That bs joke
We're talking total numbers of onlookers at Cars and Coffee that have been sent to the hospital, right?
@@davidg3944 double knee slapper my man
Such a proper car review. The benchmark. All other youtubers that test sportscars on public roads tooling around town telling everyone how great or horrible a car is should be ashamed.
I love the license plate on the Lotus:
Save 6MT👍
I figured it out. 6 speed manual trans...
Yay, New content from TH.
Edit, Dear James, where did you come up with the analogy about someone's girlfriend's erogenous zone being her nostril to describe the steering of the Z06? How does your mind work? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So one last thing. Do we noww need to retest most cars with Cup 2 tires then?
You know those questions in life that should never be asked? Yeah that's one of them.
just subtract 2 seconds for high performance cars and 4-5 seconds for normal ones..that's roughly the amount of time Cup 2s would save on each lap. The Cayman GTS would def beat the Emira if it used the same tires
I'm honestly a little disappointed with the Z06's time given what it got in Car and Driver's Lightning Lap competition
@@vicariousity3046car and driver's results should always be taken with some salt
@@vicariousity3046I actually expected it to lose considering what the matchup looked like on hagerty.
@@fl00d69 Nah, it's James. I would be pleasantly disgusted (if it's possible) by the off the wall answer he'd give tbh 🤣🤣🤣
yeah james in thomas's eyes you're definitely a butterfly
Wow 😲 that Vette makes me proud.
Man. The base C8 with Z51 on a twisty mountain road is the best thing ever I’ve experienced. Can only imagine the Z06.
Z06 home track time…unreal. Smh. Can’t wait for your next road trip. Last one was so good! Thank you for all the unbelievable content! Easily my favorite show!
I'm a sucker for lap time videos
This should be called Waitlist of the Decade 😂
Need both these in my driveway… insane.
I started following you guys a little after you start and within the first year of following you became my favourite Canadian car reviewers. Keep up the great work
You two are like the new Top gear in my opinion 😊. Doing some cool adventure roadtrips with cool cars in the future would be awesome 👌
That Z06 Corvette is just _beautiful_ .
It really is
Visually, I think it's a bit of a mess. It's built for speed, not beauty.
@@davidturgeon2087 Well each to their own ^^, I personally love the look of it!
Love my C8Z htc, had for 17 months. The front and side views are beautiful. The rear could use a little work, emira rear is beautiful and side profile.
@@vettesweetnos Honestly I don’t see anything beautiful about the Emira. I think it’s bit overrated in the aesthetics department. Looks rather bland tbh but not a bad looking car by any means. Now this 2023 Z06/Z07 70th Anniversary Edition in Carbon Flash looks absolutely stunning.
I bought my Emira because of you JAMES!!! I didn't cancel, I thought we were going to be Emira buddies! Devastated!
Usually great drift cars are not as fast on track as those who are not. That said, Emira seems to hold corners very well.
I don't want to sound too cliché, but I'm so happy your show exists. With the loss of Top Gear run by our favorite three amigos, I was at a loss of car entertainment, yet serious, thoughtful reviews. Keep up the good work gentlemen, you are a sigh of relief for all of us gearheads. I would say that you have better chemistry, because at the end of all the bantering, it feels like you have a profound respect for each other. Carry on!
What a superb video this was, can't get enough of your content. Love the cinematography and the sound, congrats to everyone in the post production crew!
The Z06 is the greatest sports car ever made. When considering daily drivability, cost of ownership, amenities, and performance, it's the GOAT hands DOWN
Z06 beaten 911 GT3 RS LAP TIME!!! LETS GOOOO!!!!
It is plus 160ish hp.
@@echutch Track looks super tight and not a long straight aways. Benefit of crazy aero is probably more important than pure straight line performance
Pretty much the same time and 160 bhp more just shows how good the chassis is in the gt3.
@@lloyd.8272 costing 2 times more
@@echutchnobody told pors he they couldn't get 160hp more too
New title: "float like a butterfly, sting like a ray"
When I see these videos and focus on the entry points on the curve and all the technical stuff on the track I quickly notice that as a Driver James is heavily underrated.
You guys are all the good parts of the best era of Top Gear
I knew the Z06 would probably beat the C7 ZR1 and the base 992 GT3, but I would've never expected a convertible Z06 on the aluminum wheels to beat a GT3 RS on any track. I'm sure there are even more tenths to shave off with the carbon fiber wheels and the coupe taking off another 150 lbs.
High track temps make a big difference, the GT3 RS is undoubtedly faster on the same day. They could've proven that by driving them back to back.
@@hummingbird9149 You probably aren't wrong, but again, adding the carbon wheels and switching to the coupe would shave off more time. Even being close to the GT3RS is a win at half the price.
@@diverxpl I mean it has 150+ more horsepower than the GT3, and some very big grippy tires, so Im not surprised its fast. But on most race tracks the GT3 RS is going to be faster (regular GT3 as well, if they're very twisty), due simply to how much faster it can go through corners and how much later it can brake before them. Hagerty did a racetrack (willow springs) comparison with a real racing driver, and despite some long straights, the GT3 RS still beat the Z06 by half a sec.
@@diverxplThe GT3 RS beat the Z06 couple with carbon wheels around Willow Springs by 7tenths, and that unlike this was a fair test with both cars running on the same track and same day.
*coupe*
It was never mentioned in the video, but it's noteworthy the C8Z was a hardtop convertible which is ~125lbs heavier than the coupe.
In this video they had the HTC? How do you know?
@@1uckedoutlook at a photo of the two and you will see the difference. You can't see the engine with the convertible, it only has a small rear window, among other details
Not only that, this Z06 is not equipped with carbon fiber wheels. I'm sure a Z06 - Z07 coupe with the carbon wheels would be at least half a second faster
Yep, first thing I noticed! It's the heavier convertible and it doesn't have the carbon fiber wheels that shave 40+lbs of unsprung weight.
@@Luke-cb3ly Seems a little weird to not even mention that. When you have a car competing with the top of the leader board you shouldn't give it a handicap like that without saying anything to your viewers.
another reminder to never sell out and remain the best car content for years to come
I love you guys. You're so fun to watch and you do an outstanding job reviewing cars! PLEASE keep up your spectacular work!!
Unless they do all EV’s from now…”oh god don’t say that!” 😂
The next Lotus will not be a full EV.
I love Porsche's, my dream is a GT3, but this new Corvette has everything the GT3 RS has. The engine is just as special. The looks have grown on me, you can drive it without looking like you're heading to Le Mans... The feel? Don't know, haven't driven one... But to be honest, even here in europe where the Z06 is 200k Euros, the Z06 would be the car to buy between these two...
Would still prefer a manual GT3 tho.
Now I am going back to my bicycle.
Manual Z06 :D
Z06 is a GT car with 2 trunks.
Its just really good on track too
Dodge fan in the house…
@@WindyCity1992 You have no idea what you're talking about. Z06 is a track car that can behave nicely on regular roads, the E-Ray is a GT car that is also really good on the track.
looks ehh still not great looking just acceptable
Put it this way, a used lotus mira cost $143k CAD and a brand new C8 corvette 1LT cost $91k CAD (and would still match the mira on any track with the regular base 6.2L V8). If it were my money, I'd take the C8
Love your videos, guys! Thanks! Of course you knew it wasn’t a battle, but a slaughter! By the way, I think the Emira wouldn’t be faster than the Cayman GTS or the Corvette Z51 if it wasn’t for the Cup 2. But you knew that too! 😂
... stil I would take the emira. ;-) You folks are so great in what you are doing - please never stop!
number 1? nobody can say the zo6 isn’t a supercar!!!
I mean, TBF, they don't really have a single undisputed super car on the leaderboard. They're a bunch of cars like the corvette that people argue about whether or not they make the cut. Some people consider the GT3 RS a super car, some argue the only 2 911s that qualify are the GT2 RS and Turbo S. Some people would say the Viper ACR is a super car, some people argue it isn't. They need to get some undisputed supercars like a SF90 or the new lambo around the track, so we have a good comparison.
@@Pk1998AMG
They dont like american cars being
Respected like their favorite EUs.
Thats all
@abelincoln4374 those are hypercars tho, they both have 1000hp. Do a ferrari 458, I am sure it won't do better than a 1-08-000
My z06 was built on Wednesday, and I can't wait to pick it up. That said, it's not really a "supercar" because it doesn't have the exclusivity element. It's a bargain sports car with "supercar" performance.
@@Pk1998AMGI think the SF90 is more hypercar. Both that and the Revuelto have the speed, price, quality, and exclusivity of hypercars.
Z06 is one of the nastiest things ever to come out of GM, supercar killer.
That thing is a super car, but without the super car price.
I think Thomas is getting better at his own track as time goes on.
The scientific thing to do would be to run a “calibration standard” car (something generic that they’d keep indefinitely) on every test day to account for changes in driver skill and ambient conditions. If they did that, they could even apply a correction factor to the test car to standardize all the results.
Man you guys always have me laughing my butt off all alone at home on my couch! Awesome!
I have a similar story. I gave a dealership, which is 80 miles away, a $2500 deposit on an Emira. But after one year and reading countless reliability/quality horror stories by owners in the UK, I pulled the deposit and eventually found a 2024 45th Anniv. Supra at a local dealership. One year later, I'm glad I did. I spent $30k less, yet still have a very unique car that is reliable, easy to maintain, handles extremely well has a pass-through hatch, and is just as fast/quick as the Emira.
Can't believe they cancelled the order for this automotive greatness
Kids
Waiting 2 years will do that.
What automatic greatness?? Porsche Cayman GT4 cost less than this.
V6 Camrey engine, 4.7 sec car is going for $120k 😂😂😂
They should make a track version of the emira with a wing and stuff, would be awesome 😃
yeah like any lightweight sportscar/supercar that is somehow track focused. I can't see how they wouldn't make a more extreme version of this car on ceramic brakes, some lighter bits of carbon, more aero and stiffer/lower suspension. it well sell at a highe price and it's an easy way to get more attention from media/social media.
They have! But not road legal…
The real track version, is called Evorora gt430/410. Higer redline, less weight, more analog and for the gt410 less understeer.
I can tell you why, the new Chinese owners are not interested in the Lotus philosophy only in it for the name & battery tech moving forward for speed@geemy9675