Kids today will never know the fear of these movies coming out every 2 or 3 years. Also no TinTin is not Image Movers, but I should cover other Mocap movies like that, Spirits Within, Ready Player One, etc some time.
Everyone keeps saying that Polar Express looks creepy sometimes but I just don't just see it. Maybe my childhood is in the way... The same can be said for Monster House, another classic. And, um, Scrooge as well.
So back in 4th grade, we all went to the auditorium to watch the polar express. For some reason, whenever anything whimsical or exciting happened, some of the kids started to excessively clap on purpose to piss off the teachers. As the movie went on, every single kid in the room started doing it. It got so bad that the teachers all went into a panic and had to turn the movie off because of how annoyed they were. It was the most special experience i had in elementary school
@@hpool7772 I never got around to watching Monster House, but I know Jim Crazy's A Christmas Carol from how many goddamn times they played it on Freeform. My dad *loves* it, but I got so freaking sick of the "whimsical theme tune" that it's still in my head months later. *BUH BUH DUH DUH DUH BUH DUH DUHN DUHN DUHN BAH DUH BUN-DAH...*
It’s ironic how Monster House, the only mocap horror film, did *not* invoke the uncanny valley but stylized the characters. To me, it’s the best looking of these movies to date.
I feel like there will always be people who think even Monster House is uncanny valley. Anything between live action and 2d animation people seem to like to call uncanny valley for some reason.
Yeah I can see that, it’s subjective what creeps people out. This movie makes me think more of claymation, another medium that can be off-putting for some.
So, as someone who actually worked at IMD (yeah, i'm in that end credits scene of Mars Needs Mom, wishing for death to end my suffering) I have to say that even though the movies may be bad, I'm still proud of the work we did. True, the stories, character designs and editing may have been better, but that has more to do with the directors and writers than anything. As you said so your self, the animation and technology was getting better and the studio was developing really breakthrough stuff before getting shut down. Even though a lot of the tech and principles developed at IMD would later be used in almost every visual effects movie now, money talks and our movies didnt bring in what Disney expected. It really sucked being stuffed into a conference room and being told you just lost your job for something you had no control over (my rhythm &hues and Tell Tale friends know the feeling). But in the end, in a developmental aspect, IMD's tech was on to something and other studios knew this. So you can thank them and the development of motion Capture for all the cool game cinematics and VFX movies you see today.
Mars Needs Moms was just a horrible concept of a movie.You are absolutely right that the quality of the tech involved was/is top notch.The failure rests on those you mention not on the ones who gave it "life". But it's always the little guy's that suffer the most for failures out of their control.
As some who loved and grew up with both Polar Express and A Christmas Carol i must say it was pretty tragic to know everything went down hill for i.m.d , you guys clearly put a lot effrot in the films to make them visually appealing,and i must say the idea of one actor playing multiple roles with distinct designs that you can hardly recognize was pretty revolutionary .😄👌
Did anyone else notice The Incredibles poster on Milo's wall in his room even I didn't notice it until now and this movie even a Pixar movie why is it even in the movie
Mars needs moms ruined my young childhood. I'm not even kidding. My dad got it from redbox when I asked and he probably just wanted a nap. I watched all of it and was horrified. It essentially made me paranoid to be apart from my mother right as I was getting out of that phase. I thought if my mom mowed the lawn, aliens would kidnap her. This might seem fickle, but I was scarred and about 2 years of my life were ruined. This is not a fucking joke.
it never scared me cause I thought I could just karate chop all those sickos, now I know I was horribly mistaken but it was decent movie beside my tears and scarring it was decent.
I watched Beowulf when I was like 12 because my parents just have no idea what the film was about and the Grendel scene terrified me, I kinda wanna see the film again as I do remember liking it.
@@jimsaintruth4248 damn i also saw it when i was rly young, it was great . Personaly i remember it being way better than this but perhaps i've seen more than one movie on the story of beowulf...
The Polar Express: One of my all time favourite movies. Disney’s A Christmas Carol: One of my all time favourite movies. Monster House: One of my all time favourite movies. Mars Needs Moms: One of my all time LEAST favourite movies, and one of the most traumatising moments of my childhood.
All of those movies you mentioned were so nostagic. Polar Express was one of the first movies I saw in theaters. Monster House was a movie I watched at my friends house back when I was in kindergarten, citra 2006. The Christmas Carol was a movie I watched when it came out in theaters and almost every year in late elementary school through middle school. Mars Needs Moms looked horrible to me from the first time I saw the commercial on TV. Eventually I was forced to watch the movie with my family in a family movie night. We rented the DVD and wasted over an hour of our lives watching that piece of garbage.
Mars needs moms was the last film I saw with my mother before she passed away. I knew it was bad and that the visuals were wierd and I said it when we started watching it, but seeing how my mom, who was rarely able to enjoy stuff, enjoyed it anyway, I stayed in the living room and watched it with her. Instead of the bad things, I focused on the goos ones, like the message, which is now very fitting. That movie reminds me that my mother loved me and cared for me all the way until her last day. RIP
God. I remember Polar Express. I remember we watched it in class in elementary school. They made us watered down hot chocolate and gave us crappy little bags of popcorn. It was great.
Yeah, my elementary school did exactly the same thing IIRC; we were all huddled together in the gym watching the movie projected on this flimsy canvas screen, complete with shitty hot chocolate and styrofoam cups full of popcorn.
When Beowulf came out, it was advertised as a hyper-stylized live action movie like 300. Even though it was rated PG-13, it was preceded by R-rated previews that disturbed some viewers.
Man that moment with the dude getting irritated at the crippled guy was depressingly realistic. given how ostrasized anyone that didn't fit into social norms were....Things haven't changed too much. Now we're just ostrasizing people over different things
One thing I always liked about the 2009 version of Christmas Carol is how accurate it is to the book. A lot of the movies best scenes really capture the tone of the original Dickens book.
Polar Express has been one of my favorite movies for the longest time. It kept the spirit of the original book (lifting every scene from the original illustrations in the film in beautiful detail), had breathtaking visuals, amazing motion capture acting by Tom Hanks, gorgeous arctic landscapes, warm Christmas feelings, a bittersweet ending, and one of the best musical scores I’ve ever heard on film. Of course, I can agree it can be a bit unnerving to some with its graphics veering into uncanny valley territory, but it never really bothered me any now or as a kid.
I watch it every year around Christmas once or twice. The music and visuals really capture the magical feel Christmas has when you're a kid so it can always draw you back. My problem with it is how much channels will air the movie. I believe one year it was 2 or 3 times every week; at that point it's too much.
I remember going on a field trip to see The Polar Express when I was in preschool and didn’t remember anything except the part when the annoying kid said “Stupid underwear” which made all the kids in the theater laugh, except me...
I remember that I was in elementary school at the time it came out, and my class did go to a movie theater to watch it (the theater gave us a free cup of popcorn per child C:). I do not remember any specific emotions that I felt, I only remember watching it.
Yeah as a kid back in the 2000's, crap like that would never make me laugh. Humor like that was too juvenile for me even as a juvenile. I didn't like watching too many things as a kid because of those reasons.
Reviewers rarely seem to bring this up, but Mars Needs Moms was actually based on a children's book by Berkeley Breathed, the creator of Bloom County. I went to a con where he had a panel once and....yeah, he doesnt think much of the movie. They basically just took the rights and did whatever with them, he had no involvement. To be honest, I would've much rather seen that canceled Opus movie than this thing.
I would have been interested in the Nutcracker movie, honestly, as well as that Roger Rabbit sequel. But I'm also glad they shut down before the Yellow Submarine remake could be done. The concept art for it was the stuff of nightmares.
MalcolmMalcontent I actually got the book just because I heard it was being turned into a movie. I loved the book honestly. I was probably one of the 3 people who saw it in theaters (including my mom) and...i'll just say I was disappointed.
And he never fucked grendel's mom either. And she wasn't a hot chick, she was just a sea monster. And the dragon isnt his son. I think all that bothers me more than the vague love interest.
@ECKohns "In the movie he’s morally grey, gives into temptation and his death is instead a consequence for not following through on killing the monsters for real." I get the themes of the movie. The problem is, if they wanted to explore those themes, then *WRITE YOUR OWN STORY!* Don't bastardize a preexisting piece of literature. I understand that adaptations often take liberties, and sometimes it pays off greatly. Here it didn't, and not only that, the themes explored are just as cliched as the original. Only the original has an excuse because it's ancient. The reason Beowulf annoys people is the same reason shitty reboots annoy people. It changes what never needed to be changed when it could have just done its own thing. If it wasn't named Beowulf, and didn't pretend to be an adaptation nobody would be so annoyed. Then again, nobody would have seen it either.
Do I have to be the fun one and point out just how much fun it would of been to do Grendel's mocap? Anyways, I've checked out both Beowulf tales and to be fair the poem was incredibly disappointing yet true to a norsemen tale. If anything, its only a disappointment after seeing the movie, its a great story. I'm always going to defend the movie even though its clearly got its problems. One way to cope from its dissociation with the source material is to...you know, the same way of enjoying a film like we all enjoyed 300 even though it was so goddamn clear not well connected to the actual events of the 1st persian wars.
Most of these are actually pretty decent. Mars needs moms is bad Polar express is decent Christmas carol is pretty good Monster house is really good. My fave mocap movie is tintin
I really, seriously think Polar Express, A Christmas Carol, Monster House, and Tintin are all under-appreciated masterpieces. The filmmaking is just incredible and the uniqueness of the medium is utilised to the best possible extent. Mars Needs Moms just… ruined everything.
Polar express is a really pretty movie if you can trick your brain into not looking at the people as trying to look like people. My brain was registering them as cartoon characters and it looks really nice from that perspective. If you try to imagine them as trying to look realistic it's fucking horrifying.
@@agonleed3841 Really? You've never tried to look into their fucking cold, dead eyes and their nightmarish gangly movement? It's just wrong enough to make them look closer to robots with flesh draped over them than an actual human.
@@peterdietrich8810 robots aren't creepy either. But at least its logical to think of something going awry with that. Can't fi d animation creepy. It's just not there.
mocap is a valid technique, the problem Image was that they wanted to make the character look as realistic as possible. A good animator will use mocap as a guideline, but will add his own artistry to it, to make it more animated.
@@warbossgegguz679 I'd hazard a guess that a lot of the more bothersome characteristics of mo-cap stick out more in film just because you're more used to seeing uncanniness in games anyhow. Or, it could just be that the film industry was less skilled with the technical aspects than the game industry was. Closer to the tech, worked with it longer (or at least more frequently), it seems reasonable that it'd be better in games. Or it might just be that it was more sparse in games. There might be a sweet spot where a little mo-cap is great, but too much and you really start to notice.
@@SaberToothPortilla I think the difference is that in video games they aren't typically aiming for realism. Also, games utilize mocap primarily for the sake of convenience. Most games that utilize mocap have a lot of in-engine cutscenes or cinematic shots, so having mocap to go off of helps with the animation process when you don't have time to pre-render everything. Plus, pre-rendering usually hampers immersion. Everything suddenly looking 10 times better out of nowhere will do that.
@@HydraSpectre1138 I mean, examples of games that extensively use mocap that spring to mind immediately for me are DMC, Metal Gear, basically every 3D fighting game, and Uncharted, all of which feature semi-realistic character designs, and all of which have mostly in-engine cutscenes/animation. So basically, if they want to render semi-realistic characters on the fly in video games, odds are they use mocap just because it's way easier and more efficient. Hence most of these movies still by and large have more advanced visuals than most of the games I just listed (save for the more recent ones like MGSV or DMC5). Because it's not about looking pretty, it's about convenience. It's just easier to use mocap footage as a base than to keyframe everything in when you're not going for cartoony animation.
I'd like to see a version of Polar Express where each time they play the theme, it gets more and more distorted until it becomes incomprehensible noise.
That would be a remake of TPE that is a lot more interesting and even more comfortable than the movie. *gets shot by Polar Express movie/Imagemovers (especially Mars Needs Moms) fanboys*
L.G., I had a dream once where I was in a school classroom and we watched Polar Express, but when the believe theme played, the movie became distorted in a way that it looked like Minecraft
I remember at my elementary school every year they would have an entire day (usually the day before Christmas break starts) we would have a pajama day where we would bring stuffed animals and the teachers would bring hot chocolate, popcorn, etc. We always watched the Polar Express movie. One year a kid's charizard plushie got thrown onto the roof by another kid so he tried to poison that kids water bottle later on in the year.
I watch it every year too. The animation and attention to detail is truly amazing and I always get teary eyed at the end. Not bad for a bunch of ones and zeros in a computer.
I think it's easily the best movie version of the story, it's a shame he didn't talk much about how fucked up some of the scenes were, especially in the third act of the movie that involved death. It has the perfect amount of drama and shock value.
I never found Polar Express that creppy. Maybe the puppet Scrooge scene, but that's all. And i saw that in IMAX in 3D! I still get chills deeing the train go to a stop, nearing the screen.
No joke, the night after watching Mars Needs Moms, I had a nightmare that my mom was put up against an alien firing squad and I was forced to watch. It was not a good night for me.
Remember: Monster House was executive produced by Robert Zemekis & *Steven Spielberg* (Seeing that Amblin entertainment helped produce the film) That kinda explains some of the 80’s feel from the movie.
When I watched Polar Express for the first time on DVD two years after its release for the first few seconds I thought it was a live action movie but then I was like “Wait a minute”
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one here!! If I hopefully remember correctly, I remember when it came out in cinemas and when I was 7 I was like “No!!! I want to watch The Incredibles not some boring movie with real people!!! >:(“ And then I watched it on DVD when I was 9 and realized while actually watching it.
Am I the only person who doesn't mind the more "realistic" looking CG movies? Like Polar Express. I actually think it looks pretty cool. Maybe its because I am a huge 3d art nerd. As a 3d modeler and animator, I can't help but to stare in awe at some of these movies. They did stuff that I thought I would never see in my life time. I think it would be cool to have some kind of youtube series where 3d artists look at and breakdown the art in these movies.
@@saucyboy1695 Yeah, Monster House was weird like that. Some times I see stylized art that looks more creepy than some realistic uncanny ones. I guess it is down to how characters move and their faces.
@@kuraiwolf4047 I certainly don't mind it, infact I admire it. I was raised on video games that have cinematics that uses the same realistic style and have been doing it since games began using CG Cinematics.
Polar Express will always hold that special place. I was never fascinated with the movie as a whole, rather the mysterious and paranormal undertone it had. Main presence being the hobo. I loved his scenes because they were unnerving and creepy. Almost like the kid was actually talking to a ghost. Then comes in the puppet car scene. Holy shit, it was awesome, yet scared the shit out of me when I was kid.
Same. At first, I was lik, "I really enjoyed this theme," but then I realized how overused it was. To add insult to injury, I also had to perform that theme for a school assembly.
Whoever designed the aliens in Mars needs Moms needs to not exist. I'm getting annoyed just looking at the thumbnail of this video. Great work, though. I hadn't even heard of MnM before watching this video.
My mom bought me 'Mars Needs Moms' for christmas one year. i think because i wasnt living with her at the time or something. I never watched it cause it looked dumb. Im glad its still in the plastic wrap.
I've done some research and from what I've gathered, the animation style was criticized for looking too creepy. In that case, the fact that Disney actually rejected the idea of a remake of Yellow Submarine with Robert himself may have been for the best. Though honestly, I think it's the CGI might be the issue and not the motion capture. Then again, Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children didn't look so creepy.
It's amazing how brutal the ghosts are to him in all honesty lol. He's almost completely broken and on his knees weeping by the time ghost of present is almost done with him.
All the new graphics for these are really refreshing and stylish, your previous reviews had nice graphics but these I prefer, the hard work you put into these always pays off.
I cringed when they look human. The avatars I mean, they're just really uncanny looking. Like everyone else's avatar besides the main dude and his love interest look pretty cool, the main dude looked like a soft rebooted cartoony Dante.
I love how at the tail end of the video there’s behind the scenes footage of the actor who played Grendel. The way he’s losing his shit while throwing this rag dolls around gets me every time😂
Beowulf for me was that weird movie that I know I watched it but couldn't believe it was real, the scene I remember the most was the bridge part where he cuts his arm
I really didn't think the polar express was that bad (in terms of the animation) considering the year of release being 2004, and if you think about the technology that was available to them. I've seen some mocap stuff from much later that is far far worse * cough Mass Effect Andromeda cough * The visuals on the whole are pretty good, I wasn't creeped out as a child, the characters looked real enough but not too real to the point where it was creepy and I feel its a movie that still holds up today. Say what you want about it but I liked the movie, the story was original and thats not something you always see in christmas movies. Will probably get hate for this but hey ho.
Motion capture amazes me. I’ve never seen it as creepy, it’s so mesmerizing to me this in between areas with characters. So much expression and life but on a fake mesh. Can’t wait for Analita or however you spell it!
It's alita. I can't believe you added an extra 2 letters man. (Man in this situation is non gender exclusive) It's a mix of CG and motion capture. And it's originally made from an anime from the 80s which I believe you should watch. It was revolutionary for it's time that is an incredible contrast to the Japanese anime seen today
Unfazed Wolf I’m sorry? I just always forget the name and want to call it ANAlita not Alita. I don’t know why I guess since it doesn’t feel right when I say it I add on a name I know. Yeah I know it’s from an anime/manga but I’ve never cared to watch it or read it. I wouldn’t discount today’s anime though, there’s some great stuff that have come out! There’s always stupid shit anime coming out in any era, but we’ve forgotten about that stuff already so now the past seems so much better. Also the industry is simply bigger so if course more stupid stuff comes out along with the art. Without modern anime stuff like Death Parade (my favorite), Steins Gate, Madoka Magica, and even Mushishi if 2005 counts. There’s many great things to come from the modern era, maybe not as revolutionary but you can’t revolutionize an industry every few years.
If ImageMovers Digital had gone on, here's what I think their release sked would've been: (November 2009) A Christmas Carol (March 2011) Mars Needs Moms (July 2012) The Beatles: Yellow Submarine (November 2013) Calling All Robots (March 2015) Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2 (November 2016) The Nutcracker (Oh well. Maybe in the multiverse, there's an alternate reality where that happened.)
i remember seeing that movie in second grade as a school field trip and it was the best field trip ever because we went to go see a movie and it wasn't occasional I just can't hate on that movie because it brings back so many memories of that day and i still love that movie :)
The only motion capture movie I still really like was the Tintin movie but it probably won’t get a sequel anytime soon, since the directors are both busy with their own projects. It would be great to see a continuation of the story as it’s a genuinely good movie, despite the uncanny valley. Too bad these motion capture movies died out
yeah it was really close to the herge comics, its basically just secret of the unicorn with some of crab of the golden claws and red rackhams treasure.
Plus PanPizza acted like The Polar Express has overdone Christmas spirit. A lot of Christmas spirit feels stunning, and The Polar Express actually has that. *WAY* more than Elf Bowling: The Movie (which would make Mars Needs Moms look even less ugly by comparison) *EVER* will.
He doesn't, so he is normal just like all of us staying up late and watching dumb videos or making dumb videos...all videos are dumb and so are youtube comments. So lets enjoy the stupidity.
@@SteamClockWork to be fare he probably released it early due to some plans he has over the holidays. So when we bitch about it, he can use it as later material in a later video...he is right to do it.
I really love the art style they went for in A Christmas Carol, plus the reason Scrooge looks different than the other characters in the movie is because his design was actually based on the Scrooge puppet from the Polar Express
And to think Robert Zemeckis was going to direct a Yellow Submarine remake using that very same technology before Disney finally pulled the plug on Image Movers Digital...
I guess you are right. But “calling all robots” sounds like a kickass movie, and the concept art for the monsters looks soo fucking good. The fact that something like this got cancelled is just going to disturb me till i die.
I doubt. The original movie was an animated drug trip, but too much uncanny valley would have ruined it. Still, I would have watched it just to see how trippy it would have become under Zemeckis hands.
James Cameron said when he walled onto the set of Robert Zemmick's Beowulf, it inspired him to do motion capture in Avatar (The one with blue native American aliens). Also Beowulf should absolutely gotten the R rating.
PAN HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY FAAVORITE CHRISTMAS MOVIE OF ALL TIME THE POLAR EXPRESS IS AMASING!!!!!111!!! For real tho The Polar Express will forever and always be one of my favorite movies of all time mostly because of what it meant to me when I was a kid. The whimsy and creep factor to me help make the movie unique, it's strangely captivating. Then again I watched it so many times as a kid I practically know the entire movie word for word and know most of the music that plays during each moment. The movie has a lot of flaws, that's for sure, but it's style and atmosphere really get me. I think the best moment of the movie isn't any of the really big action scenes or even the ones most associate with the movie, my favorite scene is when the main character goes on top of the train to find the girl and instead finds the Hobo, talks to him, then skis on the train as it goes downhill. The whole scene perfectly encapsulates the entire movie, from the haunting and frantic score, to the excellent voicework by Tom Hanks, and even the hints of this whole thing being either a dream or something far more frightening.
So they cancelled the idea for using The Seven Crystal Ball (which is a shame, because I want to shit my pants on a realistic Rascar Kupak), but there are rumors on adapting The Calculus Affair, which is not bad a choice.
Issue with Calculus Affair is that it’s built around how much Tintin and Captain Haddock care about their friend despite how much he annoys them but since this’ll be Calculus’s first appearance it’ll lose that
"Beowulf" -- Another odd thing. Disney's "Maleficent" is often accused of ripping off "Wicked," and with good reason. But plotwise, it's more of a ripoff of "Beowulf," a film nobody seems to remember (besides PanPizza and me.) A guy is tasked with slaying a supernatural Angelina Jolie, but he can't bring himself to do it. He lies to the aging king, claiming he succeeded, thus winning the hand of the princess and becoming the next king. But Jolie returns years later to exact her revenge...with the help of dragon.
Weird, I didn't have a problem with anything in the Polar Express. What's odd is that even the Disney Christmas Carol movie felt like a classic. I always did love motion capture for some reason. For me it just clicks. I guess some people just don't like it.
@Ironclad tortilla chips Go on a Boundary Break video and compare the way Pan said the line to the way Shesez says it. Similar inflection as well as a pause between "camera" and"anywhere".
I'm pretty sure I've probably watched this video multiple times, and my forgetful ass is always like "Woah, this was mocap?!", Realizes I saw this already, keeps watching, and watches it again months later.
Kids today will never know the fear of these movies coming out every 2 or 3 years. Also no TinTin is not Image Movers, but I should cover other Mocap movies like that, Spirits Within, Ready Player One, etc some time.
Everyone keeps saying that Polar Express looks creepy sometimes but I just don't just see it. Maybe my childhood is in the way... The same can be said for Monster House, another classic. And, um, Scrooge as well.
Have you ever seen Mars needs moms r34? Is pretty...something.
Yes! I'm glad to be up this early.👏 I still find the polar express a bit creepy.
Also hey Disenchanted is awaiting a review
Purgatory is a seat on the Polar Express
So back in 4th grade, we all went to the auditorium to watch the polar express. For some reason, whenever anything whimsical or exciting happened, some of the kids started to excessively clap on purpose to piss off the teachers. As the movie went on, every single kid in the room started doing it. It got so bad that the teachers all went into a panic and had to turn the movie off because of how annoyed they were. It was the most special experience i had in elementary school
Rage against the machine
RebelTaxi oh shit pan noticed me
@@hpool7772 I never got around to watching Monster House, but I know Jim Crazy's A Christmas Carol from how many goddamn times they played it on Freeform. My dad *loves* it, but I got so freaking sick of the "whimsical theme tune" that it's still in my head months later.
*BUH BUH DUH DUH DUH BUH DUH DUHN DUHN DUHN BAH DUH BUN-DAH...*
Maridia Monroe yeah, we watched the Christmas carol in 7th grade too. Everyone was freaked the hell out by the CG
@@hpool7772 Yeah...like, it's good once. Maybe twice. But not the 400 times they air it in weird intervals like we're too stupid not to miss it.
It’s ironic how Monster House, the only mocap horror film, did *not* invoke the uncanny valley but stylized the characters. To me, it’s the best looking of these movies to date.
I feel like there will always be people who think even Monster House is uncanny valley. Anything between live action and 2d animation people seem to like to call uncanny valley for some reason.
Yeah I can see that, it’s subjective what creeps people out. This movie makes me think more of claymation, another medium that can be off-putting for some.
I didn't know it was motion capture. I always knew the animation was strange in some way, but I didn't know that was why.
Cat Poke Understandable, it doesn’t look as hyper-realistic as your average mocap film lol
The movement does seems a little off.
So, as someone who actually worked at IMD (yeah, i'm in that end credits scene of Mars Needs Mom, wishing for death to end my suffering) I have to say that even though the movies may be bad, I'm still proud of the work we did. True, the stories, character designs and editing may have been better, but that has more to do with the directors and writers than anything. As you said so your self, the animation and technology was getting better and the studio was developing really breakthrough stuff before getting shut down. Even though a lot of the tech and principles developed at IMD would later be used in almost every visual effects movie now, money talks and our movies didnt bring in what Disney expected. It really sucked being stuffed into a conference room and being told you just lost your job for something you had no control over (my rhythm &hues and Tell Tale friends know the feeling). But in the end, in a developmental aspect, IMD's tech was on to something and other studios knew this. So you can thank them and the development of motion Capture for all the cool game cinematics and VFX movies you see today.
On behalf of millions, thanks for your impact on our childhoods :)
I loved Mars needs mom's . I watched it with my mom and it's one of my most powerful memories. I gave her a big hug after and cried for some reason.
janaya77 tbh at the time when I was little I thought Mars needs moms was good
Mars Needs Moms was just a horrible concept of a movie.You are absolutely right that the quality of the tech involved was/is top notch.The failure rests on those you mention not on the ones who gave it "life". But it's always the little guy's that suffer the most for failures out of their control.
As some who loved and grew up with both Polar Express and A Christmas Carol i must say it was pretty tragic to know everything went down hill for i.m.d , you guys clearly put a lot effrot in the films to make them visually appealing,and i must say the idea of one actor playing multiple roles with distinct designs that you can hardly recognize was pretty revolutionary .😄👌
I really like the feeling the Polar Express and Monster House give. Really fills you with the feeling of their respective seasons
Ikr that's why I always watch it before Christmas
yeah if fear was the season you meant
@@asmrtpop2676 uh Halloween?
So true
Christmas carol has the best Christmas feeling for me, and it's one of my favourite xmas movies
I remember Polar Express. It’s weird as hell and I love picking on it, but I watch it every Christmas because it’s so memorable.
I do that with the Jim Carrey one xD i watch it with my mother it every december since it come out.
hOT CHOCOLATE
Jackpatkinson4 I still think it’s an amazing movie, really empties the word magical like no other Christmas movie
I watch it for the trainposting potential
I loved that movie. Didn't Harry Potter do mocap too or was it cgi for those creatures and ghosts?
MARS NEEDS MOMS IS JUST A BAD VERSION OF THE JIMMY NEUTRON MOVIE. #WOKE
Shut you right
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Seth Cool why didn’t you just edit your post instead of adding another one?
@@domocan6877 lol I didn't think of it
Did anyone else notice The Incredibles poster on Milo's wall in his room even I didn't notice it until now and this movie even a Pixar movie why is it even in the movie
They had the right idea with Monster House by actually using the uncanny valley to their advantage, especially the old man.
*Honestly.*
I didn’t know monster house was mocap I thought it was stop motion
@@GhazMazMSM rly ngga?
Bobby Ferg I thought the same thing. Same with a christmas carol. Both were meant to be creepy and eerie and the mocap added to thr effect
Mr. Nevercracker
Mars needs moms ruined my young childhood. I'm not even kidding. My dad got it from redbox when I asked and he probably just wanted a nap. I watched all of it and was horrified. It essentially made me paranoid to be apart from my mother right as I was getting out of that phase. I thought if my mom mowed the lawn, aliens would kidnap her. This might seem fickle, but I was scarred and about 2 years of my life were ruined. This is not a fucking joke.
SAME BROOO
Sorry dude.
The same sort of thing happened to me. I refused to go anywhere near that movie because I was scared of my mom being taken away.
it never scared me cause I thought I could just karate chop all those sickos, now I know I was horribly mistaken but it was decent movie beside my tears and scarring it was decent.
How old were you?
I think Beowulf CGI aged pretty ok, it looks like straight from a videogame.
it's in that weird area where it would be amazing in game graphics but falls short of film quality CGI
Rayshio Tile no it wouldn’t be that good for game graphics
I think it looks pretty great
I watched Beowulf when I was like 12 because my parents just have no idea what the film was about and the Grendel scene terrified me, I kinda wanna see the film again as I do remember liking it.
@@jimsaintruth4248 damn i also saw it when i was rly young, it was great . Personaly i remember it being way better than this but perhaps i've seen more than one movie on the story of beowulf...
Can we all take a look at the one part of Polar Express when they are in the Frozen lake and they do Tokyo Drift
*fast and furiously, heh you ever seen vin diesel drift a train? thought not*
Karastaag I’m just joking but Vin Diesel did beat a train before it destroy him
Isu dorifto??!!
*sounds Deja vu in the background*
Strange Ectoplasm oh I’m just memeing take no offence
Karastaag Don’t worry I’m cool
The Polar Express:
One of my all time favourite movies.
Disney’s A Christmas Carol:
One of my all time favourite movies.
Monster House:
One of my all time favourite movies.
Mars Needs Moms:
One of my all time LEAST favourite movies, and one of the most traumatising moments of my childhood.
AGREED!
What about Beowulf?
All of those movies you mentioned were so nostagic.
Polar Express was one of the first movies I saw in theaters.
Monster House was a movie I watched at my friends house back when I was in kindergarten, citra 2006.
The Christmas Carol was a movie I watched when it came out in theaters and almost every year in late elementary school through middle school.
Mars Needs Moms looked horrible to me from the first time I saw the commercial on TV. Eventually I was forced to watch the movie with my family in a family movie night. We rented the DVD and wasted over an hour of our lives watching that piece of garbage.
*KillThad*
I haven’t seen it.
I agree Beethoven
Mars needs moms was the last film I saw with my mother before she passed away. I knew it was bad and that the visuals were wierd and I said it when we started watching it, but seeing how my mom, who was rarely able to enjoy stuff, enjoyed it anyway, I stayed in the living room and watched it with her. Instead of the bad things, I focused on the goos ones, like the message, which is now very fitting. That movie reminds me that my mother loved me and cared for me all the way until her last day. RIP
Imaginary Power rip for your mom.
Imaginary Power sorry for your loss man
Damn :(
right in my feels.. oof
10,000 days in the fire is long enough; you're going home...
God. I remember Polar Express. I remember we watched it in class in elementary school. They made us watered down hot chocolate and gave us crappy little bags of popcorn. It was great.
OH SHIT. I remember that. I was in the first grade when the teachers did that for us. Ah simpler times.
Yeah, my elementary school did exactly the same thing IIRC; we were all huddled together in the gym watching the movie projected on this flimsy canvas screen, complete with shitty hot chocolate and styrofoam cups full of popcorn.
I remembered my class doing it but we had to turn in these shitty tickets that were printed out just to be "on the train"
In my elementary school the whole 3rd grade actually went to the movies as a field trip to watch it. It was awesome.
THEY DID THAT IN MY SCHOOL TOO!!! IN FIRST GRADE. we would also get crappy little bells at the end to take home
When Beowulf came out, it was advertised as a hyper-stylized live action movie like 300. Even though it was rated PG-13, it was preceded by R-rated previews that disturbed some viewers.
Man that moment with the dude getting irritated at the crippled guy was depressingly realistic. given how ostrasized anyone that didn't fit into social norms were....Things haven't changed too much. Now we're just ostrasizing people over different things
We truly do live in a society
One thing I always liked about the 2009 version of Christmas Carol is how accurate it is to the book. A lot of the movies best scenes really capture the tone of the original Dickens book.
This is the first Christmas Carol comment I have saw so far and it took me 10 minutes to get here!
That and The Muppet Christmas Carol.
I would say the problem isn't really mo-cap but the decision to try and render these characters realistically.
Polar Express has been one of my favorite movies for the longest time. It kept the spirit of the original book (lifting every scene from the original illustrations in the film in beautiful detail), had breathtaking visuals, amazing motion capture acting by Tom Hanks, gorgeous arctic landscapes, warm Christmas feelings, a bittersweet ending, and one of the best musical scores I’ve ever heard on film. Of course, I can agree it can be a bit unnerving to some with its graphics veering into uncanny valley territory, but it never really bothered me any now or as a kid.
Same here. It was always very charming and magical to me.
@@TECfan1 same don't know why this guy is hating but it's his opinion
EXACTLYYY
Oof I always hated the movie
I watch it every year around Christmas once or twice. The music and visuals really capture the magical feel Christmas has when you're a kid so it can always draw you back. My problem with it is how much channels will air the movie. I believe one year it was 2 or 3 times every week; at that point it's too much.
I remember going on a field trip to see The Polar Express when I was in preschool and didn’t remember anything except the part when the annoying kid said “Stupid underwear” which made all the kids in the theater laugh, except me...
You are the chosen one.
The glasses kid looks like Nathaniel Bandy
I remember that I was in elementary school at the time it came out, and my class did go to a movie theater to watch it (the theater gave us a free cup of popcorn per child C:). I do not remember any specific emotions that I felt, I only remember watching it.
The song “Believe” sung by Josh Groban became one of my favorite Christmas songs for me.
Yeah as a kid back in the 2000's, crap like that would never make me laugh. Humor like that was too juvenile for me even as a juvenile. I didn't like watching too many things as a kid because of those reasons.
5:44 Dont think i didn't see that referrence!
Shesez
Oh I didn't expect to see you here
As soon as I heard it I had to scroll down and have a look and here you are!
What reference?
OOOO HI SHESEZ :0
Still don't get it
Reviewers rarely seem to bring this up, but Mars Needs Moms was actually based on a children's book by Berkeley Breathed, the creator of Bloom County. I went to a con where he had a panel once and....yeah, he doesnt think much of the movie. They basically just took the rights and did whatever with them, he had no involvement. To be honest, I would've much rather seen that canceled Opus movie than this thing.
I would have been interested in the Nutcracker movie, honestly, as well as that Roger Rabbit sequel. But I'm also glad they shut down before the Yellow Submarine remake could be done. The concept art for it was the stuff of nightmares.
@@KaijaSchmauss which probably would be worst on shrooms unlike the original
MalcolmMalcontent I actually got the book just because I heard it was being turned into a movie. I loved the book honestly. I was probably one of the 3 people who saw it in theaters (including my mom) and...i'll just say I was disappointed.
@@AdventureMaster18 that usually happens
Bloom County should be a mini-series or something.
The real best part of the Polar Express is the Conductor's mustache.
I use to think the conductor was Ned Flanders off the Simpsons when i was a kid
What about the train drifting part?
I'd ride that train
Hell yea his mustache is what makes the movie awesome and some of the memes lol
@@d-man9921 oh yes drifting in a train like a boss ON ICE
"We can basically take the camera, anywhere we want" subtle reference
I was about to write the same thing LOL.
Aww, Shesez.
@@shironookami414 That's what I was thinking when I heard that lol
Mswordx23 I don’t get it, what’s the reference?
@@kokomoko5339 There's a RUclips channel Shesez that takes the in game camera out of bounds and finds all these cool things.
Adam Williams Oh I get the joke now!
"everyone here lost their jobs" saddest and funniest line i've heard today.
Beowulf never had a love interest. He was married to his job. Which was kicking ass.
And he never fucked grendel's mom either. And she wasn't a hot chick, she was just a sea monster. And the dragon isnt his son.
I think all that bothers me more than the vague love interest.
@ECKohns "In the movie he’s morally grey, gives into temptation and his death is instead a consequence for not following through on killing the monsters for real." I get the themes of the movie. The problem is, if they wanted to explore those themes, then *WRITE YOUR OWN STORY!* Don't bastardize a preexisting piece of literature. I understand that adaptations often take liberties, and sometimes it pays off greatly. Here it didn't, and not only that, the themes explored are just as cliched as the original. Only the original has an excuse because it's ancient.
The reason Beowulf annoys people is the same reason shitty reboots annoy people. It changes what never needed to be changed when it could have just done its own thing. If it wasn't named Beowulf, and didn't pretend to be an adaptation nobody would be so annoyed. Then again, nobody would have seen it either.
Do I have to be the fun one and point out just how much fun it would of been to do Grendel's mocap?
Anyways, I've checked out both Beowulf tales and to be fair the poem was incredibly disappointing yet true to a norsemen tale. If anything, its only a disappointment after seeing the movie, its a great story.
I'm always going to defend the movie even though its clearly got its problems. One way to cope from its dissociation with the source material is to...you know, the same way of enjoying a film like we all enjoyed 300 even though it was so goddamn clear not well connected to the actual events of the 1st persian wars.
Most of these are actually pretty decent.
Mars needs moms is bad
Polar express is decent
Christmas carol is pretty good
Monster house is really good.
My fave mocap movie is tintin
And Beowulf?
Ever watched Gantz: O?
The WahMaster how is that you completely miss Beowulf?
He did say most not all.
I really, seriously think Polar Express, A Christmas Carol, Monster House, and Tintin are all under-appreciated masterpieces. The filmmaking is just incredible and the uniqueness of the medium is utilised to the best possible extent. Mars Needs Moms just… ruined everything.
The best creepy mo-cap was Silent Hills, but Konami murdered that project.
@@HydraSpectre1138 Most of Kojima's cutscenes might as well be films at this point.
@@HydraSpectre1138 Mine is Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening
There is no Silent Hills, that was P.T.
Igorowan P.T was a playable demo for Silent Hills. It was only on PS4, then got pulled of the PS Store.
RayOfTruth yet another reason Konami fucking sucks nowadays
"Everyone here lost their job"
I felt bad for laughing
I remember going on a field trip to see The Polar Express in the IMAX in 3D... I miss 2004.
I was meant to aswell in UK , but the trains weren't running so it was cancelled 😭
same bruv
*WHERE IS THE RENT?*
Nostalgica project you will get your rent when you fix that damn door
pretty sure everyone in the UK, did I saw it in the iMax in manchester.
Polar express is a really pretty movie if you can trick your brain into not looking at the people as trying to look like people. My brain was registering them as cartoon characters and it looks really nice from that perspective. If you try to imagine them as trying to look realistic it's fucking horrifying.
My three year old brain thought it was live action at first.
Horrific?
Sure you're not using that word wrong?
Or...maybe something is wrong with you. Idk....horrific?
@@agonleed3841 Really? You've never tried to look into their fucking cold, dead eyes and their nightmarish gangly movement? It's just wrong enough to make them look closer to robots with flesh draped over them than an actual human.
@@peterdietrich8810 robots aren't creepy either. But at least its logical to think of something going awry with that. Can't fi d animation creepy. It's just not there.
i never picture movies as realistic. oh wait how did i react to adventures of tintin? well i like that movie too
mocap is a valid technique, the problem Image was that they wanted to make the character look as realistic as possible. A good animator will use mocap as a guideline, but will add his own artistry to it, to make it more animated.
Mocap has been used effectively in video games for years before any of this stuff came out.
@@warbossgegguz679 I'd hazard a guess that a lot of the more bothersome characteristics of mo-cap stick out more in film just because you're more used to seeing uncanniness in games anyhow.
Or, it could just be that the film industry was less skilled with the technical aspects than the game industry was. Closer to the tech, worked with it longer (or at least more frequently), it seems reasonable that it'd be better in games.
Or it might just be that it was more sparse in games. There might be a sweet spot where a little mo-cap is great, but too much and you really start to notice.
@@SaberToothPortilla I think the difference is that in video games they aren't typically aiming for realism. Also, games utilize mocap primarily for the sake of convenience. Most games that utilize mocap have a lot of in-engine cutscenes or cinematic shots, so having mocap to go off of helps with the animation process when you don't have time to pre-render everything. Plus, pre-rendering usually hampers immersion. Everything suddenly looking 10 times better out of nowhere will do that.
@@HydraSpectre1138 I mean, examples of games that extensively use mocap that spring to mind immediately for me are DMC, Metal Gear, basically every 3D fighting game, and Uncharted, all of which feature semi-realistic character designs, and all of which have mostly in-engine cutscenes/animation. So basically, if they want to render semi-realistic characters on the fly in video games, odds are they use mocap just because it's way easier and more efficient.
Hence most of these movies still by and large have more advanced visuals than most of the games I just listed (save for the more recent ones like MGSV or DMC5). Because it's not about looking pretty, it's about convenience. It's just easier to use mocap footage as a base than to keyframe everything in when you're not going for cartoony animation.
A good animator wouldn't use mocap at all.
I'd like to see a version of Polar Express where each time they play the theme, it gets more and more distorted until it becomes incomprehensible noise.
Yes
BBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
It's RUclips, so that's definitely likely
That would be a remake of TPE that is a lot more interesting and even more comfortable than the movie. *gets shot by Polar Express movie/Imagemovers (especially Mars Needs Moms) fanboys*
L.G., I had a dream once where I was in a school classroom and we watched Polar Express, but when the believe theme played, the movie became distorted in a way that it looked like Minecraft
I remember at my elementary school every year they would have an entire day (usually the day before Christmas break starts) we would have a pajama day where we would bring stuffed animals and the teachers would bring hot chocolate, popcorn, etc. We always watched the Polar Express movie. One year a kid's charizard plushie got thrown onto the roof by another kid so he tried to poison that kids water bottle later on in the year.
My God that went dark from the last sentence!
You had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Our school does that to, but we read the book and watch the movie
I have a soft spot for the Jim Carrey Christmas Carol. I watch it every year.
Me too I love Jim Carrey films
I watch it every year too. The animation and attention to detail is truly amazing and I always get teary eyed at the end. Not bad for a bunch of ones and zeros in a computer.
has jim carrey ever had a movie that was genuinely bad? the only movie i can think of that might be & i never saw it
I think it's easily the best movie version of the story, it's a shame he didn't talk much about how fucked up some of the scenes were, especially in the third act of the movie that involved death. It has the perfect amount of drama and shock value.
It's great
19:12 This face says "I farted and it smells just as bad as the movie looks".
geardog24
Lewd?
...lewd
"...in a library"
It says "I just wanted to fart, but ended up shitting myself".
Let's put that on the MY FACE IS EATING YOUR SOUL while you look at it count
The humans in this movie look more extraterrestrial than the actual extraterrestrials.
"You guys wanna here Sicko Mode or Mo Bamba?"
I knew i'd find somebody with this comment
*hear
Yes both
How about both?
Lumbago
I never found Polar Express that creppy. Maybe the puppet Scrooge scene, but that's all. And i saw that in IMAX in 3D! I still get chills deeing the train go to a stop, nearing the screen.
Lol I've only seen them on dvd Beowulf is probably one of my favorites next to Monster House
No joke, the night after watching Mars Needs Moms, I had a nightmare that my mom was put up against an alien firing squad and I was forced to watch.
It was not a good night for me.
19:20 they're celebrating the death of image movers
Remember:
Monster House was executive produced by Robert Zemekis & *Steven Spielberg*
(Seeing that Amblin entertainment helped produce the film)
That kinda explains some of the 80’s feel from the movie.
When I watched Polar Express for the first time on DVD two years after its release for the first few seconds I thought it was a live action movie but then I was like “Wait a minute”
Zoraida Alvarez i felt the exact same way as a kid also tin tin got me
Funnily enough I felt that way about Beowulf:D
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one here!!
If I hopefully remember correctly, I remember when it came out in cinemas and when I was 7 I was like “No!!! I want to watch The Incredibles not some boring movie with real people!!! >:(“
And then I watched it on DVD when I was 9 and realized while actually watching it.
I also thought it was a live action movie. It's kinda weird.
Mars needs moms was the creepiest thing I saw on Disney channel as a child
i watched it with my mom so it wasnt that bad. maybe im just a pussy that cries too much rip
That singing elf looks like it want to eat my soul.
Tyler Perry
You mean Steven Tyler from Aerosmith 🙄
@@MrTjcoolkid tyler perry is not the person you're thinking of lol.
Nah, it's Tyler Perry
Pan, delete the video. We found it.
But I like this video
What is “it”? Am I missing something?
Ignore that comment. Apparently “it” is the Seth Green cut of Mars Needs Moms. So my question has been answered.
well boys, we did it
FINALLY THE SETH CUT
Polar Express has beautiful scenery to be honest. It's so snowy. Love Tom Hanks as the conductor.
Glad you're aware Monster House is the best movie ever made.
I really fucking like monster house. Extremely underrated.
I'd always prefer Polar Express.
Yeah I love that film, where the main plot point is about a woman drowning in concrete. Great film! It's actually pretty good tbf though.
ｔｊｇｏｔａｎｙｂｅｅｒ？
Am I the only person who doesn't mind the more "realistic" looking CG movies? Like Polar Express. I actually think it looks pretty cool. Maybe its because I am a huge 3d art nerd. As a 3d modeler and animator, I can't help but to stare in awe at some of these movies. They did stuff that I thought I would never see in my life time. I think it would be cool to have some kind of youtube series where 3d artists look at and breakdown the art in these movies.
KuraiWolf I really like the more realistic style as well. Monster House was okay but it was more uncanny for me than the other films, lol.
@@saucyboy1695 Yeah, Monster House was weird like that. Some times I see stylized art that looks more creepy than some realistic uncanny ones. I guess it is down to how characters move and their faces.
@@kuraiwolf4047 I certainly don't mind it, infact I admire it.
I was raised on video games that have cinematics that uses the same realistic style and have been doing it since games began using CG Cinematics.
Yeah tbh the fact that some of these are from the earlier 2000's and have so much detail always impressed me
Polar Express is ma *childhood,* so I don't mind these kinds of movies that much.
Polar Express will always hold that special place. I was never fascinated with the movie as a whole, rather the mysterious and paranormal undertone it had. Main presence being the hobo. I loved his scenes because they were unnerving and creepy. Almost like the kid was actually talking to a ghost. Then comes in the puppet car scene. Holy shit, it was awesome, yet scared the shit out of me when I was kid.
I enjoyed Polar Express when i was younger, but even i was annoyed by how the Theme Music was played every 2 minutes.
Same. At first, I was lik, "I really enjoyed this theme," but then I realized how overused it was. To add insult to injury, I also had to perform that theme for a school assembly.
Milo's face at the end means "Eat your heart out, Oedipus."
Dude. I still fucking LOVE Polar Express. I never understand why people hate it so much :(
Me too polar express for life
i'm jewish & i love it. actually it's more like i don't hate it or wouldn't refuse to watch it
I could almost song the songs word for word.
Cause it looks creepy and it’s boring
I cry everytime at like at least 4 scenes
19:17 its so ironic and funny that everyone was joyously dancing at the end of production, not knowing how bad of a box office bomb it will be.
I feel really sorry for everyone who got fired following the studio being shut down.
Monster House is still the best. Remember it's got punk alternative girls.
Skull N Bones groupies brah
This is bones, he's in a band
The ideal alternative punk girl with a loser boyfriend
I just realized, the polar express theme is just the theme from Elf.
No, they are similar but different. I watched Elf yesterday so.
You my good sir have gone to far
You have crossed the line so far I should call the FBI on you how dare you think those movies are the same
@@drcarvojohnson966 not the *movies,* the *themes*
Whoever designed the aliens in Mars needs Moms needs to not exist. I'm getting annoyed just looking at the thumbnail of this video. Great work, though. I hadn't even heard of MnM before watching this video.
*THICC*
It’s probably the worst and most scarring movie I’ve ever seen.
My mom bought me 'Mars Needs Moms' for christmas one year. i think because i wasnt living with her at the time or something. I never watched it cause it looked dumb. Im glad its still in the plastic wrap.
Wait a minute. Are you saying your mom tried guilt tripping you into staying with her? Damn.
If it's the Blu-Ray, you can rip the Seth Green cut off of it.
Release it for its plastic prison
Now I want an R rated Polar Express
More like an R rated monster house
@@nickjaquez1713 yes. So they can make the original plans for the house. With an organic inside. It would be great!
@@nickjaquez1713 monster house but live action
I want an X rated one...actually it probably exists somewhere
R rated a christmas carol when?
You know what MoCap movie wasn't creepy? The Adventures of TinTin. I mean, it wasn't ImageMovers, but still MoCap
YES. 100%. MY ALL TIME FAVORITE MOVIE. ♥️
That's such a gooood movie!
Wasn't really my thing to be honest I lost interest in it and I guess it fell flat for me on my first viewing experience
I've done some research and from what I've gathered, the animation style was criticized for looking too creepy. In that case, the fact that Disney actually rejected the idea of a remake of Yellow Submarine with Robert himself may have been for the best. Though honestly, I think it's the CGI might be the issue and not the motion capture. Then again, Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children didn't look so creepy.
It's amazing how brutal the ghosts are to him in all honesty lol. He's almost completely broken and on his knees weeping by the time ghost of present is almost done with him.
The uncanny vally has many gems
Too bad they are all blood diamonds.
All the new graphics for these are really refreshing and stylish, your previous reviews had nice graphics but these I prefer, the hard work you put into these always pays off.
I didn't even realize that Bau Wulf was CG it was that good for it's time.
Forgotten Syrup Yup felt the same way. I watched it as an adult and I’m still surprised at it
@@___Nobody__ I've never seen it and I kinda want to now. It looks cool.
@@ion-shivs It's a pretty good film, definitely worth the watch. Watch in winter for the best result :)
Anthony Hopkins was the best rendered. Angelina Jolie too. It was eerie at times.
"bau wulf"? Where are you getting "bau wulf"?
17:16 In fact Jessie’s voice actor also voiced Milo’s Mom
Napoleon dynamite is freakin’ sweet
don’t like the implications that the cinematic masterpiece napoleon dynamite isn’t something to be celebrated
Right?
I felt personally attacked when he went on that small tangent...
It's not the movie itself, it's the overexposure by the wrong people
Just watched Ready Player One on a plane, and we crashed into the uncanny valley at Mach speed
Better avoid battle Angel aelita.
I cringed when they look human. The avatars I mean, they're just really uncanny looking. Like everyone else's avatar besides the main dude and his love interest look pretty cool, the main dude looked like a soft rebooted cartoony Dante.
@@lasarousi THE EYES! THE EYEEEEEES! AHHHH
Meanwhile I'm just enjoy ready player one in the theater with lots of geeks and nerds and at home
@@Mr.Feather130 ok nerd
I love how at the tail end of the video there’s behind the scenes footage of the actor who played Grendel. The way he’s losing his shit while throwing this rag dolls around gets me every time😂
That's George McFly lmao
*Gives Honest review on The Polar Express
:Ok
*Talks about Monster House
:DON"T SHIT ON MONSTER HOUSE!!!
*Gives honest review on every other movie
:Ok
I'm in the works of making a game that's in the same genre as monster house, maybe you could give this a try beta.playeverland.com
@@maryiguess1595 Alright fuck you got me lol.
*these tickets are not. transferrable*
Well this a pretty nice early Christmas gift , also out of all the image movers films , does anybody even remember Beowulf ,cause i sure dont.
I actually remember Beowulf because in my last year of Highschool in English class we had to read and watch Beowulf.
Never even heard of it
Beowulf for me was that weird movie that I know I watched it but couldn't believe it was real, the scene I remember the most was the bridge part where he cuts his arm
I watched all of those movies EXCEPT Beowulf
Well, I've never seen any of these movies except for Beowulf, which I've probably seen dozens of times.
Guess I'm not much of a Christmas person.
Polar Express, and Monster House are both good movies. Its simple, paper thin, but really nice to watch. Especially at the end.
Yeah I watched that polar express beowulf tintin christmas carol and of Course monster house is my favorite from imagemovers animation
Finally someone who notices the similarities between super 8 and stranger things!
I noticed that too.
So did everyone to ever live
Stranger Things was better tho.
@@adeptdamage3669 stranger things is a ripoff a super 8.
nixon stand Bruh. They’re both paying homage to the Goonies and It. That’s why they’re so similar.
Is it just me or is nothing wrong with Polar Express at all
Expect one character in it.
I watch that every Christmas and will again this year
@@kclink1579 which one?
@@therunawaykid6523 That one with the glasses.
@@kclink1579 oh know it all kid, he's just annoying
I really didn't think the polar express was that bad (in terms of the animation) considering the year of release being 2004, and if you think about the technology that was available to them. I've seen some mocap stuff from much later that is far far worse * cough Mass Effect Andromeda cough *
The visuals on the whole are pretty good, I wasn't creeped out as a child, the characters looked real enough but not too real to the point where it was creepy and I feel its a movie that still holds up today. Say what you want about it but I liked the movie, the story was original and thats not something you always see in christmas movies. Will probably get hate for this but hey ho.
I agree with you!
i'm here literally WAITING for the atrocious Mars Needs Moms.
I remember watching Polar Express in elementary school and being freaked the fuck out whenever it'd zoom in on a character's face.
who uploads at 3 in the morning?
Rebel Taxi: *OH BOY 3 AM*
Motion capture amazes me. I’ve never seen it as creepy, it’s so mesmerizing to me this in between areas with characters. So much expression and life but on a fake mesh. Can’t wait for Analita or however you spell it!
It's alita. I can't believe you added an extra 2 letters man. (Man in this situation is non gender exclusive)
It's a mix of CG and motion capture. And it's originally made from an anime from the 80s which I believe you should watch. It was revolutionary for it's time that is an incredible contrast to the Japanese anime seen today
Unfazed Wolf I’m sorry? I just always forget the name and want to call it ANAlita not Alita. I don’t know why I guess since it doesn’t feel right when I say it I add on a name I know.
Yeah I know it’s from an anime/manga but I’ve never cared to watch it or read it. I wouldn’t discount today’s anime though, there’s some great stuff that have come out! There’s always stupid shit anime coming out in any era, but we’ve forgotten about that stuff already so now the past seems so much better. Also the industry is simply bigger so if course more stupid stuff comes out along with the art. Without modern anime stuff like Death Parade (my favorite), Steins Gate, Madoka Magica, and even Mushishi if 2005 counts. There’s many great things to come from the modern era, maybe not as revolutionary but you can’t revolutionize an industry every few years.
I thought Analita was refering to Anomalisa
If ImageMovers Digital had gone on, here's what I think their release sked would've been:
(November 2009)
A Christmas Carol
(March 2011)
Mars Needs Moms
(July 2012)
The Beatles: Yellow Submarine
(November 2013)
Calling All Robots
(March 2015)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2
(November 2016)
The Nutcracker
(Oh well. Maybe in the multiverse, there's an alternate reality where that happened.)
Mars needs bars
mars need reviews.
Mars Bars needs mom
Do I hate Mars needs Bars.
Mars needs Milfs
Bars needs bombs is a good name for a nerdcore hip hop album
I'm most likely blinded by nostalgia but I still think The Polar Express is a good Christmas movie. Keyword: Christmas Movie.
i remember seeing that movie in second grade as a school field trip and it was the best field trip ever because we went to go see a movie and it wasn't occasional I just can't hate on that movie because it brings back so many memories of that day and i still love that movie :)
Thank you PanPizza very cool!
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I like :
The Polar Express
A Christmas Carol
Monster House
Edit :
Tintin
Just that
What about Tintin? That was mocap and pretty good.
@@psyc8407 o yea.. i forgot about that.
Pang, Kornelis Andrew Wibowo Haven’t we all?
The only motion capture movie I still really like was the Tintin movie but it probably won’t get a sequel anytime soon, since the directors are both busy with their own projects. It would be great to see a continuation of the story as it’s a genuinely good movie, despite the uncanny valley. Too bad these motion capture movies died out
I'm glad someone else thinks this. I saw tintin and I loved it
yeah it was really close to the herge comics, its basically just secret of the unicorn with some of crab of the golden claws and red rackhams treasure.
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The sequel was said to be based on the Prisoners of the Sun arc (which I love, so I hope that gets made!)
Peter Jackson confirmed TinTin 2 is happening. They worked on a 2nd script. Also i love tintin. Was really fucking good in IMAX 3D
Tintin 2 is happening.
I dunno, I loved the Polar Express. It has a whimsical charm that you can't find in most other holiday movies.
Yeah, I don't get how Mars Needs Moms would get more credit AT ALL.
Plus PanPizza acted like The Polar Express has overdone Christmas spirit. A lot of Christmas spirit feels stunning, and The Polar Express actually has that. *WAY* more than Elf Bowling: The Movie (which would make Mars Needs Moms look even less ugly by comparison) *EVER* will.
7:59 “A terrible time to be alive”? You just forfeit all credibility, and every smidgen of my respect. How goddamn dare you
disliked and stopped the video at that quote. don't need to hear anything else this guy has to say lmao
I had to sing that feckin Polar Express theme for my high school choir two years in a row.
i hope pan gets enough sleep
Eh....
@@RebelTaxi it is 6 AM(At least here in America.). He is saying you need to be sleeping.
He doesn't, so he is normal just like all of us staying up late and watching dumb videos or making dumb videos...all videos are dumb and so are youtube comments. So lets enjoy the stupidity.
RebelTaxi yeah Pan, isn't this way off your usual upload time? Take care of yourself buddy, get some rest
@@SteamClockWork to be fare he probably released it early due to some plans he has over the holidays. So when we bitch about it, he can use it as later material in a later video...he is right to do it.
I really love the art style they went for in A Christmas Carol, plus the reason Scrooge looks different than the other characters in the movie is because his design was actually based on the Scrooge puppet from the Polar Express
And to think Robert Zemeckis was going to direct a Yellow Submarine remake using that very same technology before Disney finally pulled the plug on Image Movers Digital...
I guess you are right.
But “calling all robots” sounds like a kickass movie, and the concept art for the monsters looks soo fucking good.
The fact that something like this got cancelled is just going to disturb me till i die.
I doubt. The original movie was an animated drug trip, but too much uncanny valley would have ruined it. Still, I would have watched it just to see how trippy it would have become under Zemeckis hands.
i would be terrified to see a mocap version of the boob dear lord
The MOCAP style for The Polar Express is just so nostalgic, I'm glad they used it.
James Cameron said when he walled onto the set of Robert Zemmick's Beowulf, it inspired him to do motion capture in Avatar (The one with blue native American aliens). Also Beowulf should absolutely gotten the R rating.
PAN HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY FAAVORITE CHRISTMAS MOVIE OF ALL TIME THE POLAR EXPRESS IS AMASING!!!!!111!!!
For real tho The Polar Express will forever and always be one of my favorite movies of all time mostly because of what it meant to me when I was a kid. The whimsy and creep factor to me help make the movie unique, it's strangely captivating. Then again I watched it so many times as a kid I practically know the entire movie word for word and know most of the music that plays during each moment. The movie has a lot of flaws, that's for sure, but it's style and atmosphere really get me.
I think the best moment of the movie isn't any of the really big action scenes or even the ones most associate with the movie, my favorite scene is when the main character goes on top of the train to find the girl and instead finds the Hobo, talks to him, then skis on the train as it goes downhill. The whole scene perfectly encapsulates the entire movie, from the haunting and frantic score, to the excellent voicework by Tom Hanks, and even the hints of this whole thing being either a dream or something far more frightening.
@Kev_ Bot ironic
@ThatGuyYouKnow you my good sir are right
Long live polar express
Exactly!
Tintin needs a sequel already
He's in My Hero Academia.
@@theheadlessjackfrost679 camio's dont count
So they cancelled the idea for using The Seven Crystal Ball (which is a shame, because I want to shit my pants on a realistic Rascar Kupak), but there are rumors on adapting The Calculus Affair, which is not bad a choice.
Issue with Calculus Affair is that it’s built around how much Tintin and Captain Haddock care about their friend despite how much he annoys them but since this’ll be Calculus’s first appearance it’ll lose that
SNB Sixteen6stars there is more then enough sequel material
"Stop playing that song!"
-one movie review later *plays song*
"Beowulf" -- Another odd thing. Disney's "Maleficent" is often accused of ripping off "Wicked," and with good reason. But plotwise, it's more of a ripoff of "Beowulf," a film nobody seems to remember (besides PanPizza and me.) A guy is tasked with slaying a supernatural Angelina Jolie, but he can't bring himself to do it. He lies to the aging king, claiming he succeeded, thus winning the hand of the princess and becoming the next king. But Jolie returns years later to exact her revenge...with the help of dragon.
Except Beowulf was a way better movie than Maleficent.
Weird, I didn't have a problem with anything in the Polar Express. What's odd is that even the Disney Christmas Carol movie felt like a classic. I always did love motion capture for some reason. For me it just clicks. I guess some people just don't like it.
Did I hear a subtle Boundary Break reference at 5:47 ;)
Eyy I was lookin to see if anyone else caught it lmao
@Ironclad tortilla chips Go on a Boundary Break video and compare the way Pan said the line to the way Shesez says it. Similar inflection as well as a pause between "camera" and"anywhere".
I'm pretty sure I've probably watched this video multiple times, and my forgetful ass is always like "Woah, this was mocap?!", Realizes I saw this already, keeps watching, and watches it again months later.