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With all such origins of the original Pattern's and the Vex' that we heard here, I would be sure that the Nine would be envious of the early Vex' breaching into the Material Realm easily than their own. [chuckles]
I think the Vex's purpose is to rule the universe rather than restoring balance, because in the flower game they always became the only pattern and the gardener made the new rules because the Vex always won the game and erased all other possibilities
You are absolutely correct. This is confirmed by the Final Shape lore entry that, when explaining the flowers that always win, the darkness says, "They're majestic, I said. They have no purpose except to subsume all other purposes. There is nothing at the center of them except the will to go on existing, to alter the game to suit their existence. They spare not one sliver of their totality for any other work. They are the end." And later on, the pattern that won the game is said to escape into the new cosmos and as such, the all consuming flower is what we see as the Vex today. This also lines up with most of the Vex plans in Destiny history.
Them according to this, In the season of The Drifter. The Nine wasn’t breaking the forth wall, The Nine had figured out the truth between the light & The Deep.
Fascinating. Did anyone else catch the fact that worms grew from the garden? Then the worms became large and powerful. This sounds like also the origins of the worm gods. Maybe there were many worms. Billions? But these 5 (now 4) just happened by chance to survive and in their age grew large and powerful to where they are now
I suspect cannibalism between the Worms. For what could possibly make you more powerful than killing someone that is nearly as powerful? It is what the sword logic approves after all.
@@loganthekrogan2182 Likely, after all Oryx got his Taken powers from killing a Worm God. Oryx (At the time Auryx) killed the Worm God Akka, Worm of Secrets, and learned the secrets of the worm, earning him the name Oryx, the Taken King.
Pretty sure I remember during the Mars expansion that the Will of Thousands was going after the warmind because it was afraid the other worm god were going to kill it, with it being the weakest of the 5.
It's always fun to hear the Darkness unveiling it's monomania, the very reason it will lose. It will never be able to "see" the thing that ends it, most likely through changing what it fundamentally is.
When you realize that this ultimately means that the vex, as an entity, is the physical form of one of the primordial beings that brought creation, and having won the game as the inevitable outcome makes them the strongest technically speaking, and yet they're just an enemy we've been casually popping while sweating minions of the darkness like oryx etc lul
They were the victors before the Light and the Dark began to directly participate in the cycle of life and death. When the conflict between Gardener and Winnower birthed the universes we know, suddenly the Vex weren't the inevitable solution anymore, as they can't account for paracausal Light/Dark. The Vex are just as capable of losing, or winning, as the rest of us.
This entire thing about the vex doesn't make sense to me. They are robots? Why would that process make a robot. Surely some alien made them other than the 3 we know.
@@RagingCoolCat yes but simple bacteria can't make an entire cyborg or robot, like they are. Something or someone must've helped them to create the robotic shell.
@@iCore7Gaming lol you're not reading too much into it. You're just reading it wrong. These are ephemeral entities being birthed when the traveler and the darkness departed the garden. Their form is of their own making the same way the traveler or even a human body is. They are far from simple bacteria
Just missed the premiere. Also, have you ever noticed how the white Vex Rock and Metal (Precursor, Descendant, or Modern) all have the same etched texture as the Pyramid ship does on the outside and inside?
I’ll keep in mind that this is a game and we are taking about lore: Does the lore mention anything in regards to the quantum screen? I believe that the pressures from the light “grinding” against the darkness created and continues to create objects, patterns, anomalies, etc. I believe that we are similar in the sense that we ourselves are meat machines. Our consciousness is no more than a fluid pattern of “forgetfulness” in which we are driven only to things we desire and to that extent expend resources for that purpose and any other larger purposes beyond that. Complex life =complex desires. We systematically knock out our goals and use them as a sort of perpetual fuel. Common goals are therefore “important” to the totality of the larger system of “life” which simply is all that is known and unknown and has probability that can be assigned to it. We are the eventuality of improbability, are we not?
Great Job Sir! I loved this Lore book so much..... While you do have to remember the darkness is the narrator and some things may be said to manipulate the narrative, it's still good to see the curtain pulled back a bit
And they’re called Vex because, according to entry “The Flower Game”, the Gardener was vexed when that pattern kept winning the game over and over again.
We might not realising this now, ( or maybe we do) but this lore is VERY important. Just as much as all the events we play. Similar to crota oryx red war. This finally tells us what vex really are and how they were made. Something we didn’t know for sure and wondered since the days of vault of glass.
Hey myelin I dont know if you've been informed but a neat bit of lore when you save saint 14 the fallen house thats you shows on the death screen is house rain and they wear the same colors as the other fallen we fight today so either bungies too busy to change the colors or maybe it was intentional to link house rain into this
Ok so with the new leak that was just put on 4chan naming the fall expansion “the collapse” it talks about how the city will fall and the darkness leader or mother ship is called “the winnower” this kind of confirms the leak
I think when the darkness says 'they are not all mine...nonetheless they have found their way home' because of the context I think this has two meanings. The first as you said the vex have gone back to the garden. Secondly the sol divisive have been known to fight with other vex collectives. This tied with the fact we have seen them worship the darkness offers a second meaning and that the sol divisive belong to the darkness and that 'found their way home' could actually be talking about the darkness itself.
Wet things. The veil? The creatures that smell like wet earth maybe? Worms that grew large, worm gods? Scurrying things ,ahamkara maybe? Long shot but maybe
Really speaks volumes that this lore from three years ago was also being drip-fed just like the current lore and ultimately didn't even matter and got retconned.
When it said "I caused it" I don't think it means they literally caused the Cambrian explosion. I think it's more of "I caused it" as in "my principles, my ideology, the rules that I follow, caused what you consider the basis of life, and yet still you call me an evil, mindless destroyer. Simply for following the rules"
what if the garden is mercury itself and the battle or the "wrestling" between the darkness and light occurs there. when our doppleganger shows up and tells us he's our salvation maybe we die, hence the grave from the corridors of time and then the darkness revives us or something.
The Vex are probably my favorite enemy. They make me think of The Traveler though. Vex orbs/launchers look like The Traveler. Vex milk, energy, light, not like Travelers. Singular eye. Ghosts have the same singular eye. Traveler converts the inert deadness into life, Vex convert it to..mechanical Vexness. I imagine that if we were to go inside The Traveler, it'd be like the endless hallways we just went through while travelling. I wish that zone stayed, it was tranquil. Once you killed the Vex, I mean.
If you play the flower game: you must imagine that the gardener is the one is who places the beginning organization of flowers. Then at the end, when either the board has cleared or everything has evolved into the stagnant "pattern", the winnower cleans up those that remain. But the winnower is not THE pattern, it is just one who upholds it. From the way the vex are described, they are literally the Physical amalgamation of THE pattern. Which to me makes more sense when it explains their agenda. Just as the gardener pushes down his seeds i.e. the guardians, light, etc...the winnower waits for his time to come clean up. But the Vex are not waiting to clean up the pattern like the darkness is, they're the ones making it. They try to assimilate everything, just the same way that in the flower game, eventually every random starting organization gets assimilated into the pattern. They don't care about what they lose, they dont care about what they win, they're just doing whatever is necessary to play out the pattern. Because before in the flower game the pattern always prevailed but in the real world who knows for them. Only time (Literally) will tell them how its done. I believe that is why all the vex are not aligned with the darkness is because they arent completely on the same side, they're actually different factors of the game.
So the darkness basically started life on Earth, leading to humanity, and then the light took humanity back to fight the darkness...and now the darkness is going to return and try to convince us to join it. Interesting circle.
I always knew the Vex were the big bad since Destiny 1. The only thing that can really stop the Vex is the power to take. There are so few guardians that the light doesn't matter to them at all and whoever had the power to take can take entire worlds at a time. Even then, the garden Vex dont need to be taken as they already worship the darkness. What we need is to find out what Calus knows and maybe we can find out how the Vex fare.
Also ... Interesting that we get to understand why the Taken become taken... The darkness claims them and can kill them.... But instead of killing them, the darkness "zombifies" them in order to help bring balance to the equation in it's favor. The darkness considers Oryx a loyal servant so it allowed Oryx to take. Very interesting
Darkness after having some cocaine, the white powder coating his nose said to the confused king "Oryx man! Have you ever thought about this reality just being some game to other worldly beings?" Oryx have a confused and shocked Expression on his face as Is If just told a big revelation "wow..thats like fucking deep man!" The darkness fixing its bloodshot eyes onto the white brick once more "I know man I man.."
The vex are neutral...so let’s say the darkness starts to take over the light and it becomes more imbalanced does this mean the vex could possibly join the guardians to bring the balance back?
To the vex, balance would be the game as it was before the cosmic conflict changed the rules. They need both Light and Dark gone. Though it sounds like some have decided to wholly join the Darkness in order to destroy everything...maybe in hopes of starting over with a clean slate?
From what you reviewed I’m not following how the vex’s pattern results in balance. In the flower game they learned the pattern that would always ensure their lone survival in the end. It’s what drove the gardener to become frustrated with the game; the lack of other possibilities blooming because the pattern consumed all. While I agree that the vex are neither good or evil, this lore does not suggest that they seek balance. The seek to win at existence and become immune to erasure.
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Myelin Games premiere fun, like Twitter minus cancer.
Myelin Games i have no idea how it work but i hope ot doesn't effect other followers and still help you, i used it because i couldn't stand the adds
New Lore of clear explanation for the Vex' creation? (like [Maressana])? or just old recitings from the [Unveiling]?
With all such origins of the original Pattern's and the Vex' that we heard here, I would be sure that the Nine would be envious of the early Vex' breaching into the Material Realm easily than their own. [chuckles]
yeah, ads are pretty crazy on youtube atm
Origin of Vex: when a mommy Circle gets thirsty for some daddy Triangle.
XD oh my gosh Bob!
They are sisters
Blessed comment
Ok
@@pracitus hot
also it mentions insects and worms from the garden wish dragons and worm-gods maby
if thats so then thats quite the twist XD
So the light doesnt want to follow the rules
Ohhh so thats why pvp is unbalanced
Facts
you’ll love stasis :)
@@MuItimach update - stasis still op
@@MuItimach fjujff
The Vex were created when the Gardener and Winnower had nothing to go with their unvexed cookies.
I think the Vex's purpose is to rule the universe rather than restoring balance, because in the flower game they always became the only pattern and the gardener made the new rules because the Vex always won the game and erased all other possibilities
You are absolutely correct. This is confirmed by the Final Shape lore entry that, when explaining the flowers that always win, the darkness says, "They're majestic, I said. They have no purpose except to subsume all other purposes. There is nothing at the center of them except the will to go on existing, to alter the game to suit their existence. They spare not one sliver of their totality for any other work. They are the end." And later on, the pattern that won the game is said to escape into the new cosmos and as such, the all consuming flower is what we see as the Vex today. This also lines up with most of the Vex plans in Destiny history.
Them according to this, In the season of The Drifter. The Nine wasn’t breaking the forth wall, The Nine had figured out the truth between the light & The Deep.
Oryx, My man
Carl Johnson, my man.
Sorry. Lol
"The life in the garden cried out a question, the Vex, were the answer"
The Vex and the Fallen are by far my favorite races. It’s fricken awesome.
Fascinating. Did anyone else catch the fact that worms grew from the garden? Then the worms became large and powerful.
This sounds like also the origins of the worm gods. Maybe there were many worms. Billions? But these 5 (now 4) just happened by chance to survive and in their age grew large and powerful to where they are now
I suspect cannibalism between the Worms. For what could possibly make you more powerful than killing someone that is nearly as powerful?
It is what the sword logic approves after all.
@@loganthekrogan2182 sounds plausible to me!
@@loganthekrogan2182 Likely, after all Oryx got his Taken powers from killing a Worm God. Oryx (At the time Auryx) killed the Worm God Akka, Worm of Secrets, and learned the secrets of the worm, earning him the name Oryx, the Taken King.
Pretty sure I remember during the Mars expansion that the Will of Thousands was going after the warmind because it was afraid the other worm god were going to kill it, with it being the weakest of the 5.
Actually now 3 worm gods because we killed xol and oryx killed akka
It's always fun to hear the Darkness unveiling it's monomania, the very reason it will lose. It will never be able to "see" the thing that ends it, most likely through changing what it fundamentally is.
So the darkness legit says “MY MAN ORYX” just wow
Oryx my man!!
The Darkness: My man, Oryx
Me: Ohhhh so you spitting hot fire huh darkness let me get a freestyle 🔥🔥😂
My man, Oryx
Oryx my man!
Oryx my man
oryx my man
Interesting they mentioned "Worms". Likely a reference to Xol and the Worm Gods of the Hive.
When you realize that this ultimately means that the vex, as an entity, is the physical form of one of the primordial beings that brought creation, and having won the game as the inevitable outcome makes them the strongest technically speaking, and yet they're just an enemy we've been casually popping while sweating minions of the darkness like oryx etc lul
They were the victors before the Light and the Dark began to directly participate in the cycle of life and death. When the conflict between Gardener and Winnower birthed the universes we know, suddenly the Vex weren't the inevitable solution anymore, as they can't account for paracausal Light/Dark. The Vex are just as capable of losing, or winning, as the rest of us.
This entire thing about the vex doesn't make sense to me. They are robots? Why would that process make a robot. Surely some alien made them other than the 3 we know.
@@iCore7Gaming no. The vex are the fluid in the robot. The robotic body is literally just a shell dude
@@RagingCoolCat yes but simple bacteria can't make an entire cyborg or robot, like they are. Something or someone must've helped them to create the robotic shell.
@@iCore7Gaming lol you're not reading too much into it. You're just reading it wrong. These are ephemeral entities being birthed when the traveler and the darkness departed the garden. Their form is of their own making the same way the traveler or even a human body is. They are far from simple bacteria
The Vex are amazing. They're my favorite aspect/enemy of Destiny lore.
Patternfall.
Oh man, that was mind blowing...
I wonder if we'll ever get a lower entry series directly from The Traveler
Just missed the premiere. Also, have you ever noticed how the white Vex Rock and Metal (Precursor, Descendant, or Modern) all have the same etched texture as the Pyramid ship does on the outside and inside?
Gammatrap your art has become better
I love all the Vex lore the story of creation it’s so cool
The lore entries mentioned worms leaving the garden as well. Maybe also where Ahamkara/worm gods came from?
I’ll keep in mind that this is a game and we are taking about lore: Does the lore mention anything in regards to the quantum screen? I believe that the pressures from the light “grinding” against the darkness created and continues to create objects, patterns, anomalies, etc. I believe that we are similar in the sense that we ourselves are meat machines. Our consciousness is no more than a fluid pattern of “forgetfulness” in which we are driven only to things we desire and to that extent expend resources for that purpose and any other larger purposes beyond that. Complex life =complex desires. We systematically knock out our goals and use them as a sort of perpetual fuel. Common goals are therefore “important” to the totality of the larger system of “life” which simply is all that is known and unknown and has probability that can be assigned to it. We are the eventuality of improbability, are we not?
Can you go into more detail? Im not entirely sure what you mean?
Great Job Sir! I loved this Lore book so much..... While you do have to remember the darkness is the narrator and some things may be said to manipulate the narrative, it's still good to see the curtain pulled back a bit
"my man Oryx" the darkness was bros with Oryx
I remember hearing a theory from someone where they proposed that the Vex were actually an evolution of the S'pht from Marathon.
nice to see that this channel is still around, been a while since I checked out 'fundament origin story' that snowy holiday season three years ago!
My man Oryx.
Also, patternfall
Listening to this video from 3 years ago is amazing!
Worms and scurrying things sounds like the hive worms and the fallen
Just leaving my mark here.
Thanks man ! This is great ! Im so ready for D3 !!
thanks dude! D3 starts with our death?
Have a listen, it reads: "Hello, I'm Patrick Stewart..."
And they’re called Vex because, according to entry “The Flower Game”, the Gardener was vexed when that pattern kept winning the game over and over again.
We might not realising this now, ( or maybe we do) but this lore is VERY important. Just as much as all the events we play. Similar to crota oryx red war. This finally tells us what vex really are and how they were made. Something we didn’t know for sure and wondered since the days of vault of glass.
Patternfall
I really love the vex in the way they are designed and how they function ^^
Who's here during the preview?
Hey myelin I dont know if you've been informed but a neat bit of lore when you save saint 14 the fallen house thats you shows on the death screen is house rain and they wear the same colors as the other fallen we fight today so either bungies too busy to change the colors or maybe it was intentional to link house rain into this
The conglomerate house we fight today took their colors from house rain. It was one of the first houses to the wiped out after coming to our system
This shit is dank lore is so good in this game.
Ok so with the new leak that was just put on 4chan naming the fall expansion “the collapse” it talks about how the city will fall and the darkness leader or mother ship is called “the winnower” this kind of confirms the leak
My man oryx man the darkness sounds chill
This really proves how the traveler parallels the demiurge in gnosticism
Good Video this has got to be one of my favorite lore books!!
I think when the darkness says 'they are not all mine...nonetheless they have found their way home' because of the context I think this has two meanings. The first as you said the vex have gone back to the garden. Secondly the sol divisive have been known to fight with other vex collectives. This tied with the fact we have seen them worship the darkness offers a second meaning and that the sol divisive belong to the darkness and that 'found their way home' could actually be talking about the darkness itself.
My man used golden gun to kill red bar ads.
O O Z E B A L L S
When my man Oryx takes me out for vex milk 😏👌
Wet things. The veil? The creatures that smell like wet earth maybe? Worms that grew large, worm gods? Scurrying things ,ahamkara maybe? Long shot but maybe
Explain what possibly killed our Guardian at the end of the corridors of time?
This proves that destiny has a multiverse.
That was enjoyable
Really speaks volumes that this lore from three years ago was also being drip-fed just like the current lore and ultimately didn't even matter and got retconned.
Patterfall, I've been waiting for the back story on the vex to come out its a lot different than I thought It would be that's for sure.
When it said "I caused it" I don't think it means they literally caused the Cambrian explosion. I think it's more of "I caused it" as in "my principles, my ideology, the rules that I follow, caused what you consider the basis of life, and yet still you call me an evil, mindless destroyer. Simply for following the rules"
Plot twist, Myelin = Gammatrap.
It hurts seeing you not use a Celestial Goldie shot on that Big boi hobgoblin. XD
That said, *Oryx my man!*
That was great.
Wow, that’s some mind bending stuff.
All I hear now is Jason mamoa saying ORYX MY MANNN
Happy Sunday bro!
what if the garden is mercury itself and the battle or the "wrestling" between the darkness and light occurs there. when our doppleganger shows up and tells us he's our salvation maybe we die, hence the grave from the corridors of time and then the darkness revives us or something.
I just need one more unveiling tab to complete this lore book. But eres stopped anyone knows why?
Hey you paused the memberships? Everything ok?
The Vex are probably my favorite enemy. They make me think of The Traveler though. Vex orbs/launchers look like The Traveler. Vex milk, energy, light, not like Travelers. Singular eye. Ghosts have the same singular eye. Traveler converts the inert deadness into life, Vex convert it to..mechanical Vexness.
I imagine that if we were to go inside The Traveler, it'd be like the endless hallways we just went through while travelling. I wish that zone stayed, it was tranquil. Once you killed the Vex, I mean.
Thanks Matt.
If you play the flower game: you must imagine that the gardener is the one is who places the beginning organization of flowers. Then at the end, when either the board has cleared or everything has evolved into the stagnant "pattern", the winnower cleans up those that remain. But the winnower is not THE pattern, it is just one who upholds it. From the way the vex are described, they are literally the Physical amalgamation of THE pattern. Which to me makes more sense when it explains their agenda. Just as the gardener pushes down his seeds i.e. the guardians, light, etc...the winnower waits for his time to come clean up. But the Vex are not waiting to clean up the pattern like the darkness is, they're the ones making it. They try to assimilate everything, just the same way that in the flower game, eventually every random starting organization gets assimilated into the pattern. They don't care about what they lose, they dont care about what they win, they're just doing whatever is necessary to play out the pattern. Because before in the flower game the pattern always prevailed but in the real world who knows for them. Only time (Literally) will tell them how its done. I believe that is why all the vex are not aligned with the darkness is because they arent completely on the same side, they're actually different factors of the game.
"Oryx, my man" - Deidera
Well done. Take care
Gammatraps are is amazing I tell you.
So the darkness basically started life on Earth, leading to humanity, and then the light took humanity back to fight the darkness...and now the darkness is going to return and try to convince us to join it. Interesting circle.
Eris still hasn't given me the last lore entry for "unveiling" :(
I always knew the Vex were the big bad since Destiny 1. The only thing that can really stop the Vex is the power to take. There are so few guardians that the light doesn't matter to them at all and whoever had the power to take can take entire worlds at a time. Even then, the garden Vex dont need to be taken as they already worship the darkness.
What we need is to find out what Calus knows and maybe we can find out how the Vex fare.
Also ... Interesting that we get to understand why the Taken become taken... The darkness claims them and can kill them.... But instead of killing them, the darkness "zombifies" them in order to help bring balance to the equation in it's favor. The darkness considers Oryx a loyal servant so it allowed Oryx to take. Very interesting
Oryx My Man
Sooooo, the Darkness is Puerto Rican? I AM BECOME DEATH!
my man oryx
Nice work
Petision to make a Mylan Games ASMR Lore Video!
Our real life oceans are full of......radiolaria.
Still there since the Cambrian explosion of life...so....it makes perfect sense 👌
Darkness after having some cocaine, the white powder coating his nose said to the confused king "Oryx man! Have you ever thought about this reality just being some game to other worldly beings?" Oryx have a confused and shocked Expression on his face as Is If just told a big revelation "wow..thats like fucking deep man!" The darkness fixing its bloodshot eyes onto the white brick once more "I know man I man.."
Or - hear me out - A time traveler built one and programmed it to multiply
Also, "My man Oryx" lol
Vex are The Avatar confirmed.
This video should start with *Hits blunt*
Patternfall. I always enjoy ur lore vids thank you
The vex are neutral...so let’s say the darkness starts to take over the light and it becomes more imbalanced does this mean the vex could possibly join the guardians to bring the balance back?
To the vex, balance would be the game as it was before the cosmic conflict changed the rules. They need both Light and Dark gone. Though it sounds like some have decided to wholly join the Darkness in order to destroy everything...maybe in hopes of starting over with a clean slate?
Does this mean the pyramid ship on the moon cause that change on earth
Maybe the Heart of the Black Garden is the Winnower?
Oryx is daddy!
All hail the Vex!
I'm the dark boy, I'm the one who takes
From what you reviewed I’m not following how the vex’s pattern results in balance. In the flower game they learned the pattern that would always ensure their lone survival in the end. It’s what drove the gardener to become frustrated with the game; the lack of other possibilities blooming because the pattern consumed all. While I agree that the vex are neither good or evil, this lore does not suggest that they seek balance. The seek to win at existence and become immune to erasure.
Patternfall!
Amazing🙌🏼