To this day my biggest seller are my normals. I think no matter what normals will never go away and will be the one go to for beginners. And I think every collection should have that one normal pet snake. I still have my first wild caught import female I got just about 30 years ago. She bred up until about 6 yrs ago. She will never go away and will be here till her last heart beat. Even when I had to sell most of my collection 5 yrs ago to pay for my daughter's funeral I never considered selling her not for one second.
@@OlympusReptiles I get it especially with a collection as big as yours you can't afford to have many normals. Truthfully one thing I like about having a smaller collection now is how cheap my feeder cost is now lol. So I can only imagine what yours is and there is no sense in the whole thing if it doesn't pay for itself at the very least. I'm very familiar with nerd and Kevin as I am a new Hampshire resident he has had to downsize due to cost of food and other things like electricity as we have the highest rates in the country. Anyways great job guys I'll continue to watch as I always have, and thank you for the kind words
@@dvlexotics2177 One nice thing about a larger size collection as there tends to be the occasional normal made as byproduct. I love them but i dont want them ending up as throwaway animals or food for another snake or monitor. So I try to make as few as possible.
100% not your fault but now I have to find another male to add to my already male heavy collection just so I can make something more awesome than I had already planned down the road. Thanks! By the way just recently found you and have loved every bit of what I have binge watched so far.
❤️❤️❤️ Thanks so much. I really enjoyed this video about breeding genetics. I've heard the terms used from years of watching, but never had it all laid out so well. I don't have a snake but if I did, I now can avoid the normals. 😊 I enjoy seeing the different morphs and learning the traits of each morph. Happy hatching this year. 🥚
most single gene animals are also devalued. a single gene lesser or mojave is mayve 50 bucks to 20 bucks for a normal. If I am going to try and make bels, I would try to pair a bel to a bel. or pair a bel to a 3 or 4 gene animal with a single copy of a bel gene. I am less concerned about the value of the animal than i am about making a nice looking animal that a pet keeper will want to bring home and love at this price point.
Normals may be a byproduct from breeding, but considering that they are the OG BP, they are the best blank canvas to discover what other morphs and genes you may be working with.
Just for out of curiosity if you breed two* Axanthics but they are not the same line does that make the babies be het for both types? Or would it just be for one or the other? Wonderful video thank you so much for sharing and best wishes always.
I'm new to this and bought my snakes as pets but do plan to maybe breed them one day. My female was sold to me as a [super pastel, black pastel, cinnamon], what I'm not sure about is how is she super pastel and black pastel? my male is a black pastel banana and he definitely looks like he should. From what I've gathered here, i should not get a single normal?
Super pastel is 2 copies of the pastel gene. Black pastel is a different and unrelated gene with a confusing name, but it acts like a super with cinnamon. Every one of the babies from your girl will be pastel and either cinny or blk pastel. with that male, it's basically a 50% chance each gene will pass to a baby.
One issue though, I wouldn't breed them. If your female has both black pastel and cinnamon, it is an allelic combo. Snake will be a solid dark color usually. With male also having black pastel babies will have a 50% chance at being black pastel cinnamon or super black pastel. That combo has a very high rate of deformity.
@@OlympusReptiles you were working up to a simple explanation and then just jumped into different words that most people don’t know either. It was funny
To this day my biggest seller are my normals. I think no matter what normals will never go away and will be the one go to for beginners. And I think every collection should have that one normal pet snake. I still have my first wild caught import female I got just about 30 years ago. She bred up until about 6 yrs ago. She will never go away and will be here till her last heart beat. Even when I had to sell most of my collection 5 yrs ago to pay for my daughter's funeral I never considered selling her not for one second.
First, so sorry about your daughter. Second, nothing wrong with normals or liking them. But, from a $$ stand point i don't want to produce many
@@OlympusReptiles I get it especially with a collection as big as yours you can't afford to have many normals. Truthfully one thing I like about having a smaller collection now is how cheap my feeder cost is now lol. So I can only imagine what yours is and there is no sense in the whole thing if it doesn't pay for itself at the very least. I'm very familiar with nerd and Kevin as I am a new Hampshire resident he has had to downsize due to cost of food and other things like electricity as we have the highest rates in the country. Anyways great job guys I'll continue to watch as I always have, and thank you for the kind words
@@dvlexotics2177 One nice thing about a larger size collection as there tends to be the occasional normal made as byproduct. I love them but i dont want them ending up as throwaway animals or food for another snake or monitor. So I try to make as few as possible.
100% not your fault but now I have to find another male to add to my already male heavy collection just so I can make something more awesome than I had already planned down the road. Thanks!
By the way just recently found you and have loved every bit of what I have binge watched so far.
❤️❤️❤️ Thanks so much. I really enjoyed this video about breeding genetics. I've heard the terms used from years of watching, but never had it all laid out so well. I don't have a snake but if I did, I now can avoid the normals. 😊 I enjoy seeing the different morphs and learning the traits of each morph. Happy hatching this year. 🥚
I'm always aiming for this with my pairings and always try to recommend it for newer breeders. Thank you for this video!
That banana you showed is amazing!! She’s so beautiful. ❤
most single gene animals are also devalued. a single gene lesser or mojave is mayve 50 bucks to 20 bucks for a normal. If I am going to try and make bels, I would try to pair a bel to a bel. or pair a bel to a 3 or 4 gene animal with a single copy of a bel gene. I am less concerned about the value of the animal than i am about making a nice looking animal that a pet keeper will want to bring home and love at this price point.
Absolutely. My favorite sales tend to be from $100 to $400 and cool looking.
Normals may be a byproduct from breeding, but considering that they are the OG BP, they are the best blank canvas to discover what other morphs and genes you may be working with.
Yes, they have a use
I am in the UK and normals are almost given away now so it makes sense that we should try not to produce more .
Just for out of curiosity if you breed two* Axanthics but they are not the same line does that make the babies be het for both types? Or would it just be for one or the other? Wonderful video thank you so much for sharing and best wishes always.
Het for both
What would you get pairing a enchi clown female to a calico spider butter male?
Butter, enchi, calico, normals and any combination of. All 100% het clown.
@@OlympusReptiles thanks man
Some normals I made in past sold better then others for some reason ppl still buy them but I sell them cheap probably why
I'm new to this and bought my snakes as pets but do plan to maybe breed them one day. My female was sold to me as a [super pastel, black pastel, cinnamon], what I'm not sure about is how is she super pastel and black pastel? my male is a black pastel banana and he definitely looks like he should. From what I've gathered here, i should not get a single normal?
Super pastel is 2 copies of the pastel gene. Black pastel is a different and unrelated gene with a confusing name, but it acts like a super with cinnamon.
Every one of the babies from your girl will be pastel and either cinny or blk pastel.
with that male, it's basically a 50% chance each gene will pass to a baby.
@@Armiyana Thank you! Very much appreciate the response.
One issue though, I wouldn't breed them. If your female has both black pastel and cinnamon, it is an allelic combo. Snake will be a solid dark color usually. With male also having black pastel babies will have a 50% chance at being black pastel cinnamon or super black pastel. That combo has a very high rate of deformity.
Yeah. I missed that the male also had Blk pastel. The risk of kinking is definitely something I wouldn't want to subject a first time breeder to.
lol - im happy you want to explain it to us in a way we understand. But dude…it made it worse
How is it worse, what do you not get?
@@OlympusReptiles you were working up to a simple explanation and then just jumped into different words that most people don’t know either. It was funny
@@nybsfp7486 heterozygous and homozygous? idk about yall but we learned this in science class in middle school here