It doesn't matter if they would have had a first-round pick all three years those first-round picks would have gotten hurt during the season... It is supernatural the way that this team loses consistently, every semi reliable athlete on this team will get hurt somehow
No you running baker out of town for that bum is the reason you all suck! You beat the steelers in the playoffs in their stadium and you run him out out town! You deserve to lose! Cooper should demand a trade
@@gregtimmerii4288 I stopped watching during the first game, never done that before, but it truly is a factory of sadness, how did browns go from flacco to this?
Big Kev will say he is proud of the effort from the guys, and we will get things fixed after watching the tape, and now we need to worry about the Raiders. Vrable would be cracking skulls and telling the media we suck.
It’s 80 percent Deshawn’s fault. Yeah the Offensive line was not good, but Deshawn needs to pick up blitz pre-snap. I’ve never seen someone see blitz and know your line is hurt and still hold on to the ball for 3 plus seconds. Flacco knew that and got the ball out quickly.
Anyone trying to pretend Watson wasn't bad is delusional. I saw multiple clean pockets in the second half where he scrambled for no reason. He threw a 5 yard pass from a clean pocket on 3rd and 15. He's not a good quarterback anymore.
I saw one replay of the draw play. What I saw was a q.b. bobble the snap and then place the handoff in the chest plate rather the stomach. Might want to be sure of what you're seeing.
Don’t worry guys, stefanski said they’re going to fix it and all the watson fanboys assured me he’s made of vibranium and will soon show his true form. It’s never watson’s fault when he plays bad and loses but it’s always bc of him this team wins. He’s only got a few more sexual assault accusations left in him and then after that, he’s going to finally look mid! Also, remember when he went 4-12 4 years ago but had all those stats and when he played vs the ravens that one time? That matters, right?
Ok GB you put in 30 years of work into this game and played it too. Congratulations! What you say has more credibility then what is said in the comments 🙄 We'll let you have that. What about NFL hall of famers that say we have a QB problem?? Are they wrong too?? Do they not know what they're looking at when they watch the game?? I understand we have issues at other positions but we cant sit here and pretend like we havent had any issues at the QB position since DW been here. Why has it looked better whenever we have a mediocre QB in there but it doesnt look good when DW is in there??
Houston ripped the heart of the Browns last year in the playoffs after the magical Flacco run. No Flacco and no Callahan and they look like they have never recovered. Big Kev is going to lose the team quick, if he cannot get the offense more consistent. The D is going to rebel, if we cannot score 20 pts/game.
Country Club Conklin is soft as a pillow. Andrew Berry signs him to a multi year, mostly guaranteed extension at the beginning of last season. HE hasn't played well since 2020. Why is Berry NEVER held accountable?
@@chaunceyg5657 they are both terrible decisions by berry. But I do think over the last 3 years watsons pff grade is much lower than wills. Watson is statistically one of the worst qbs in the nfl since coming to cleveland. By every stat
Why did I come here first after a tough loss to hear G Bush victory lap around the fans of this show and tell us we don’t know anything about football and he’s the expert. Garret, if you can’t handle people pushing back on your takes maybe you’re in the wrong business?
Watson has demoralized this team. Watson is only starting because the Haslams are 1000 percent protecting him. He's there boy. Players know this and have no respect for Watson at all!
Good qb's can adjust - D. Marino & J. Elway were masters of the quick pass - D lines barely got to them - ball was already thrown - Elway - snap, 2 steps back, ball thrown - held the ball 1 or 2 seconds - absolutely chewed thru def - this Browns OL is bad - K.S. needs to realize this fact & quit calling longer developing pass routes - takes too much time - pocket collapses - hurried pass, sack, or int - new coach -
Deshaun watson week 3 stats. 57% completion for 196 yards, 2 pass td, 1 fumble lost. 89 passer rating and a 28 qbr. All still rank him below league average 18th or lower in week 3... but his best game yet, still not close to being good enough.
JONES stats were worse than that about a week ago, he had 2 tds in his last few games and 3 pick his. They were saying he throws the defense more tds than the Offense
@@markmarcucio4177 yea watsons stats are worse than Daniel Jones over the last 3 seasons totals. Almost every qb is statistically better than watson the last 3 years.
People need to stop saying we didn't lose because of Watson. We didn't win because of him, and that's the point of a 230 million dollar rock star play making Quarterback. He's supposed to lift them up. He's not doing that, and they aren't good enough to lift HIM up, that's for sure. Weak.
What was AB thinking getting this guy, I don't care if he was elite(was elite)but if you're getting the most money out of a city that has struggled and still is the laughing stock of the league it don't matter but go out there after all this hype shit, go out there and prove to Cleveland that you're not that guy. So what we do, be smart and get someone who can take hits, throw the ball, and run when you need to, so say what y'all want to say but the season was over before it even started and I'm still a fan Go Browns!!!
This offense is a shell of what it was last year. Why was there housecleaning at the end of last year? AVP had the offense with some kind of balance. Now we are in a real shitpile. We don't have a screen pass in our playbook. Good luck fellows next week with Max Crosby!
Most browns fans are buckeye fans like myself and love to see fields do well. Happy for him. Side note you're corny as hell coming to a browns youtube page.
@AbdulAziz-mu6kq yes, hes a two time coach of the year. Won 11 games with 5 different starting qbs last year. Deshaun has been horrible for 3 years now. But hey at least he had 1 good half against the ravens in 3 years lmao
They had 7 carries for 7 yards in the 1st half. But they should've continued to run the ball. So many browns commentators are scared to criticize watson
The bottom line is this. In the off-season they fired the whole offensive coaching staff and brought in ken Dorsey and Co. And this far it has been a failure. If things don't change soon, changes on the staff will happen
The Cleveland Browns losing to the New York Giants is an absolute embarrassment! The offensive line is garbage! Shame on the Browns for assembling this injured offensive line! There is no way Deshaun Watson is this bad. It’s the OL’s fault!
For second week out of three weeks Watson was hit 17 times by the opposing team’s defensive line, that is unacceptable! He is not getting any time to see the field! The Browns never should’ve let Bill Callahan get away! This team as constructed is garbage, it looks like Jedrick Wills is re-injured, Wyatt Teller is injured. James Hudson is injured. Myles Garrett is playing hurt. They’ve got a serious problem here! -BP in Pepper Pike
Why do you guys constantly stay, "Please don't yell at us. We aren't saying Deshaun did bad." He didn't do well. Stop giving him outs. He did nothing special. Sure the line could be better, but he's paid a ton of money to be a playmaker. Well the coach has re-earned me calling him Stupidinski. He should absolutely be on the hot seat. He doesn't believe in the team practicing the entire pre-season, and look at the result. And Andrew Berry needs to be shown the door. Dude can't draft people to save his life, but that moron Haslam apparently thinks he drafts well enough to save his job.
Deshaun Watson is not the problem .. He could be a bit better ... sure... I get that and I will stand on that but half of the time and through the majority of today he did what he could and only a few of today's elites could have had a decent chance at overcoming the dismal line / constant pocket closes, the rudimentary mistakes... etc.
I'm really beginning to feel like there is NO HOPE for the Browns. Until they can get a "real team" together, they're gonna continue to suck. On again off again IS NOT working!
Mcnuggets the only with good commentary on this. They literally designed this offense around what deshaun wants to do. The RPO/spread. Deshaun can't even run what he was good at in houston anymore.
@devinmckinney7716 cooper was 10th in 20+ yard receptions and 2nd in 40+ yard receptions last year. Jeudy was 7th in 40+ yard receptions. The wrs can stretch the field
The reason the texans went 4-12 wasnt o-line play. Its cause their defense gave 30 points per game. Their o-line was solid and was anchored by one of the best tackles in the league. Also, watson ran up stats in garbage time.
You're slow. Defense allowed 3 td's in the first half. Jerome Ford fumbles, and Cedric Tillman drops a 4th down pass, practically wide open. You are actually slow
@@crucial3041 You're slow, Watson scored 15 points against one of the worst teams in the NFL. Even got a free 7 point spot 10 seconds in. You are actually slow.
@@crucial3041buddy it’s the New York Giants. 2 even be in a dog fight with a bottom ten team most likely tells you all you need 2 know. Just wait until Mahomes comes in December and shows up.
@luism8130 Watson isn't the whole offense. Sacked 7-8 times and escaped multiple others. Dummy. Watch the game instead of constantly blaming Watson. Learn the game then speak.
Sounds like everyone is change their tune from a few years ago where you all were saying get rid of baker and get an adult in the room and a real qb and this team will win. Now it’s not the qb it’s everyone else?
Deshaun isn't to blame for this one guys! Who we pointing fingers at now huh? I can't take this shit with the Browns anymore! I give this team my heart and soul but can we as fans get the same back!!?? Every week with the same old optimism. No one wants to see us win so we just give in to that?? I feel like only Myles Garrett is the only one playing on the field! This might just be my last season.... hurts my heart to say it but I can't take the stress man...
Burn it down. Trade anyone of value. Good bye Stefanski and good bye vastly overrated Andrew Berry. Go for the 1st pick and get a real QB. The whole organization has been a joke since 1999. Why would anyone pay 3 cents to see this dumpster fire ?
Stop defending Watson. A great QB lifts a bad team up. Watson ain't that guy. And the team isn't good enough to lift HIM up. This team is an undisciplined mess. They only got to the playoffs last year BECAUSE of Flacco, who came off the freaking COUCH! Coming off the COUCH this dude, interception machine that he is, was still a great enough QB to get these team a SPARK and get them to the PLayoffs last year. Also, why are they still throwing Ford out there like everything is cool with him. He's horrible. Foreman was better last week.
This wasn’t on Watson at all, if u know anything about football u should know we lost cuz of the o line. And I’m a baker bro. I hate Watson, but fucking o line absolutely sucked today.
Team has to get better, play calling and o line. Watson starter slow but picked it up, Browns def was shaky early. We have hold down trench b4 Chubbs get back. Bad lost but Clev will be better, coach has to have team ready.
I'm tired of people always blaming Deshaun. He isn't bad at all. He's just paired with the wrong type of players when it comes to receivers. They only have possession catchers. NO BURNERS to stretch the field and get open. When that happens it's on the head coach and offensive coordinator to script up plays to get these receivers open. They need to focus on the run and then apply the play action. No you didn't pay Deshaun for that but the type of personal you have calls for that unfortunately.
No washedson is really bad and the stats prove it, the game tape proves it, the results on the field prove it. Fanboys live in lala land where a 4-12 team stats matter from 4 years ago.
@@AbdulAziz-mu6kqI love the browns, and watson is trash and has been for 3 straight years. Meanwhile, stefanski has a coach of the year and a 11 win season with watson not playing.
@@versewonderstrikes5353Completely disagree. Over the past 20 games Watson is in the bottom 5 of all QBs. His biggest problem is the 6 inches between his ears….and I am starting to believe that is the same case with you.
Tell that to the other 20-30+ starting QBs we’ve had since 99. It’s way more than a QB problem, it’s the ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE. No consistency whatsoever!
Jones has always been trash. Idk why this is a surprise to everyone? He’s so bad today, he made everyone around him worse. Watson held the ball too long and when he didn’t he made about 3 ok-to-good throws and wildly missed on the rest. The entire team offense and defense just looks flat and unmotivated when 4 is in at QB. I don’t even think Kevin wants him in the game…
The Browns have been #1 in the use of analytics and have been below average in Ws. This issue goes higher up the ladder than Kevin Stefanski. This is a 6 win team at max.
Dorset is calling the plays that's y they ain't running the ball. Stafanski offense is a Kubiak offense, play action zone runs, u dnt know what ur talking about! That's y Dorset got fired in Buffalo, h3 won't run the ball
The o line didn't have a great game, but it wasn't as bad as people think. The giants were rushing 6 or 7 consistently. No line is going to hold up for 5 seconds when that happens, especially when they weren't using an extra blocker most of the time. G bush is so delusional trying to defend such a mediocre qb
When is Haslam going to forget about a new stadium focus on the team and realize he screwed up with Deshuan up one week down the next week ain't going to get it done
Just think of all qbs we could have drafted in the last 4 years. No instead jimmy has to have this watson cat. Jimmy either needs to sell the team or back off and let the people he hired do their jobs. Dont be an al davis and jerry jones, especially now days. Being that hands on doesnt work. Neither berry nor stefanski wanted watson here. Our fortunes will never change unless we get the right owner or our owner backs off and leaves his opinions out of what berry is an expert at.
I don't care if this team puts up 100 points next week... It is the same old fuckin Browns... This team this franchise is supernatural in every kind of way that is bad... Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison could only have dreamed about being such successfull inventors as this franchise's ability to discover unforseen breakthroughs in they're craft.
Ken Dorsey Sucks. Watson sucks. Our players prove every season that they are made out of the most breakable glass. I hate being a gd Browns Fan for 35 years... And now for what feels like the thousandth time I get to go to work on Monday and be made fun of for being so loyal to this POS team
The teams were even in fumbles lost. Jones outplayed Watson. All week from UCSS, the Giants 'stink". It must be the coaches, not the players-let's fire them all. Listen to Bush-'out schemed' every single week. Whew. Get the armchairs out. Last week, UCSS gave several reasons why Cooper was 'off'. My, what a difference a week makes. Btw-the Cle Media-"insiders" sold us on this terrific offense. I guess practice isn't a good indicator. Psst: Maybe they miss Chubb.
We can point to a handful of issues that weren't Deshaun Watson's fault, but we can find dozens more that are. Perhaps other guys are making mistakes because they are overwhelmed by how bad Watson is.
Doesn't take a genius for what ails the Browns. Execution is lacking on offense. Stefanski needs to simplify the offense and get Watson in favorable positions. If he can't,I say let Dorsey call the plays.
Deshaun put the ball into jerome fords neck. On that hand off. Ford probably still should've held onto it. But that was horrendous fundamentals from deshaun
You guys are hilarious in your refusal to see what this really is. I don’t blame Wilson. I don’t blame Stefanski. I don’t blame the O-Line, the absence of Nick Chubb or anyone else on the field. What scares ME is who we’re not even looking at regarding this team. But who cares, right?
Maybe when we draft a receiver we should start throwing him out there & seeing if he can figure it out right out the gate. I'm getting tired of seeing these guys drafted & then sit & barely get sprinkled in...if you put some work on a guy like Cedric Tillman starting from game 1 LAST YEAR maybe you'd see some development. Or maybe we'd have known after a couple games he ain't that good. Rashee Rice ain't over in KC warming the bench, is he? DK Metcalf didn't play the part time WR4 spot in Seattle his first year did he? I'm not saying our guys our that caliber, but maybe with dudes like Cedric Tillman, David Bell, & now Jamari Thrash we should be putting them out there to play, & play a lot. We treat our drafted WRs like they're QBs "playing behind veterans" for a year or two. Seems to hurt them more than help them
3 years of not having a first round pick is coming home to roost.Talent level is showing through
It doesn't matter if they would have had a first-round pick all three years those first-round picks would have gotten hurt during the season... It is supernatural the way that this team loses consistently, every semi reliable athlete on this team will get hurt somehow
Amen. Signing a guy with poor character for top dollar was stupid.
And Kevin Stefanski sucks as a head coach
Andrew Berry can't draft offensive players to save his life. He blew 3 3rd round picks on garbage WRs. He is mediocre at best.
No you running baker out of town for that bum is the reason you all suck! You beat the steelers in the playoffs in their stadium and you run him out out town! You deserve to lose! Cooper should demand a trade
I’m not gonna lie. It’s tough to watch anymore.
@@gregtimmerii4288 I stopped watching during the first game, never done that before, but it truly is a factory of sadness, how did browns go from flacco to this?
Wills doesn't deserve to have his name called correctly.
Coach Kev needs to step down and promote Vrabel to HC!
No.
@@Adam-gx3je I’d say demote Kevin to water boy 😂
@@Adam-gx3je I love your reasoning
Big Kev will say he is proud of the effort from the guys, and we will get things fixed after watching the tape, and now we need to worry about the Raiders. Vrable would be cracking skulls and telling the media we suck.
@@petedog9581 hell yeah man I’ll roll with Vrabes!
It’s 80 percent Deshawn’s fault. Yeah the Offensive line was not good, but Deshawn needs to pick up blitz pre-snap. I’ve never seen someone see blitz and know your line is hurt and still hold on to the ball for 3 plus seconds. Flacco knew that and got the ball out quickly.
Anyone trying to pretend Watson wasn't bad is delusional. I saw multiple clean pockets in the second half where he scrambled for no reason. He threw a 5 yard pass from a clean pocket on 3rd and 15. He's not a good quarterback anymore.
Gardner minshew will carve us up of defence plays like this again
I saw one replay of the draw play. What I saw was a q.b. bobble the snap and then place the handoff in the chest plate rather the stomach. Might want to be sure of what you're seeing.
It was in his shoulder pad and his hands were waiting for it where they should be….and his eyes were focused forward to get through the line….
@@JenniferHerron-ek1fe I agree
Those guards have gotten old right before our eyes
Dawand got his butt whooped out there! Worst one on the line by far!
8 sacks, to that horrible Giant team, RIDICULOUS
@@klove5765 that's what happens when your qb can't read defenses and holds the ball forever
Aaaaahahahahahaahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
To be fair their defense is really good. Their offense is awful.
That horrible team took you to the woodshed for almost 4 quarters
Ummmm…. Giants horrible? They came to play. They looked more formidable than the Jags.
Don’t worry guys, stefanski said they’re going to fix it and all the watson fanboys assured me he’s made of vibranium and will soon show his true form. It’s never watson’s fault when he plays bad and loses but it’s always bc of him this team wins. He’s only got a few more sexual assault accusations left in him and then after that, he’s going to finally look mid! Also, remember when he went 4-12 4 years ago but had all those stats and when he played vs the ravens that one time? That matters, right?
Ok GB you put in 30 years of work into this game and played it too. Congratulations! What you say has more credibility then what is said in the comments 🙄 We'll let you have that. What about NFL hall of famers that say we have a QB problem?? Are they wrong too?? Do they not know what they're looking at when they watch the game?? I understand we have issues at other positions but we cant sit here and pretend like we havent had any issues at the QB position since DW been here. Why has it looked better whenever we have a mediocre QB in there but it doesnt look good when DW is in there??
DW trade is either the worst or second worst trade of all time as is RW trade. Should have kept Baker
Houston ripped the heart of the Browns last year in the playoffs after the magical Flacco run. No Flacco and no Callahan and they look like they have never recovered. Big Kev is going to lose the team quick, if he cannot get the offense more consistent. The D is going to rebel, if we cannot score 20 pts/game.
Jedrick Wills IS NOT A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER
Country Club Conklin is soft as a pillow. Andrew Berry signs him to a multi year, mostly guaranteed extension at the beginning of last season. HE hasn't played well since 2020. Why is Berry NEVER held accountable?
Neither is deshaun waston
@@anthonypa8045 LOL if you think Wills is a better player than Watson you are clueless.
@@chaunceyg5657 they are both terrible decisions by berry. But I do think over the last 3 years watsons pff grade is much lower than wills. Watson is statistically one of the worst qbs in the nfl since coming to cleveland. By every stat
Why did I come here first after a tough loss to hear G Bush victory lap around the fans of this show and tell us we don’t know anything about football and he’s the expert. Garret, if you can’t handle people pushing back on your takes maybe you’re in the wrong business?
Watson has demoralized this team. Watson is only starting because the Haslams are 1000 percent protecting him. He's there boy. Players know this and have no respect for Watson at all!
But G why is Tillmen your go to guy with the game on the line. Juedy wasn't not even in the game plan.
Cooper had to leave the game for that play because he got injured without a timeout
That’s your coach of the year’s gameplan? 🙄
He hit him in the numbers
When they lose they bring up Watsons legal issues, we'll hear it all week
Florio said saturday the browns are preparing for suspension of qb this year
@@jimtaggert42man browns fans hope so!
Good qb's can adjust - D. Marino & J. Elway were masters of the quick pass - D lines barely got to them - ball was already thrown - Elway - snap, 2 steps back, ball thrown - held the ball 1 or 2 seconds - absolutely chewed thru def - this Browns OL is bad - K.S. needs to realize this fact & quit calling longer developing pass routes - takes too much time - pocket collapses - hurried pass, sack, or int - new coach -
Deshaun watson week 3 stats. 57% completion for 196 yards, 2 pass td, 1 fumble lost. 89 passer rating and a 28 qbr. All still rank him below league average 18th or lower in week 3... but his best game yet, still not close to being good enough.
JONES stats were worse than that about a week ago, he had 2 tds in his last few games and 3 pick his. They were saying he throws the defense more tds than the Offense
@@markmarcucio4177 yea watsons stats are worse than Daniel Jones over the last 3 seasons totals. Almost every qb is statistically better than watson the last 3 years.
Look at the play Coop got hurt Ced was wide open at the marker
People need to stop saying we didn't lose because of Watson. We didn't win because of him, and that's the point of a 230 million dollar rock star play making Quarterback. He's supposed to lift them up. He's not doing that, and they aren't good enough to lift HIM up, that's for sure. Weak.
Y’all thought Dawand Jones was in shape last season?? 😂
What was AB thinking getting this guy, I don't care if he was elite(was elite)but if you're getting the most money out of a city that has struggled and still is the laughing stock of the league it don't matter but go out there after all this hype shit, go out there and prove to Cleveland that you're not that guy. So what we do, be smart and get someone who can take hits, throw the ball, and run when you need to, so say what y'all want to say but the season was over before it even started and I'm still a fan Go Browns!!!
Get rid of Wills, aka Mr. Glass.
Another great draft pick by Andrew berry, first rounder too 😂
Not during season ...u can't buy a tackle during season
What you talking bout Willis? You talkin bout Wills?
It's not just the offensive line not blocking. He's dropping back so far and not marveling the pocket which is causing sacks
This offense is a shell of what it was last year. Why was there housecleaning at the end of last year? AVP had the offense with some kind of balance. Now we are in a real shitpile. We don't have a screen pass in our playbook. Good luck fellows next week with Max Crosby!
Dude why do you keep defending DW. He’s part of the problem.
# 2 Fields is doing great only cost is a 6th Rd pick lol 😂 what did Watson cost ? 3-0 go Steelers
Most browns fans are buckeye fans like myself and love to see fields do well. Happy for him. Side note you're corny as hell coming to a browns youtube page.
I cant even argue with you bro. Congrats Steelers
Havent watched it yet, but im guessing g bush still thinks watson should be a starting qb
I was correct, made multiple excuses for watson
Bush loves Watson.
I'm guessing u think Stefanski still a good coach.. but truly never was
@AbdulAziz-mu6kq yes, hes a two time coach of the year. Won 11 games with 5 different starting qbs last year. Deshaun has been horrible for 3 years now. But hey at least he had 1 good half against the ravens in 3 years lmao
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Saw a rumor that Ted Lasso is coming back for a 4th season! Storyline: Dee Haslam hires Ted to return to states to coach Browns...
I love Apple TV but Ted Lasso was a terrible show. Who gives a shit about soccer
Love that show and it’s totally realistic would be a huge hit . Browns have been a disaster for 30 years
What I would do with 3 first round picks and Baker
Nobody couldn't get open, but he held the ball too long.. Which 1 is it EARL??????
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Y is denzel ward not on the number 1 at all times????
When you play zone coverage you can't do that. Schwartz is a zone guy. He might have to switch it up
Because he’s not that good lol
@@GravyGame denzel ward or schwarts?
@@dereksavage7626 Ward. It’s why they were trying to get out of his contract before last season lol
Schwarz plays man not zone. He tried switching to zone and it didn't work so he put Ward on Nabers and who shut him down
They had 7 carries for 7 yards in the 1st half. But they should've continued to run the ball. So many browns commentators are scared to criticize watson
The bottom line is this. In the off-season they fired the whole offensive coaching staff and brought in ken Dorsey and Co. And this far it has been a failure. If things don't change soon, changes on the staff will happen
The defense was bad in the first but they adjusted in the second half and our offense was putrid
G bush hit nail on head. Fundamentals fundamentals
The Cleveland Browns losing to the New York Giants is an absolute embarrassment! The offensive line is garbage! Shame on the Browns for assembling this injured offensive line! There is no way Deshaun Watson is this bad. It’s the OL’s fault!
For second week out of three weeks Watson was hit 17 times by the opposing team’s defensive line, that is unacceptable! He is not getting any time to see the field! The Browns never should’ve let Bill Callahan get away! This team as constructed is garbage, it looks like Jedrick Wills is re-injured, Wyatt Teller is injured. James Hudson is injured. Myles Garrett is playing hurt. They’ve got a serious problem here!
-BP in Pepper Pike
Deshaun still pretty bad
@@bp1152 why do you think Callahan and Van Pelt jumped ship? ( STANKFANSKI )
@@blazer5475 Dumb
@@Lawrence-sk8ttno, he's still pretty bad. Half those sacks were on DeSean, holding on to the ball too long.
Coach Kevin needs to give up play calling!
Let Dorsey call the plays!
He needs to be fired. I have never been a fan of his
@@infinitedarkness9476 I’m right with you brother! I just told my friend that who was at the game!!!!
Watson needs to retire
@@anthonypa8045 Stefanski needs to move down to water boy 😂
Why do you guys constantly stay, "Please don't yell at us. We aren't saying Deshaun did bad." He didn't do well. Stop giving him outs. He did nothing special. Sure the line could be better, but he's paid a ton of money to be a playmaker.
Well the coach has re-earned me calling him Stupidinski. He should absolutely be on the hot seat. He doesn't believe in the team practicing the entire pre-season, and look at the result. And Andrew Berry needs to be shown the door. Dude can't draft people to save his life, but that moron Haslam apparently thinks he drafts well enough to save his job.
Facts. Well put.
Because jimmy cuts them a check
Earl is a real business. Don't argue with the superchats. They pay you. Lol😂
As a Browns fan, probably time to mail it in
I'm so glad I was out in the sun instead of watching this like a sucker!
G Bush and Mikey making good points.
Deshaun Watson is not the problem .. He could be a bit better ... sure... I get that and I will stand on that but half of the time and through the majority of today he did what he could and only a few of today's elites could have had a decent chance at overcoming the dismal line / constant pocket closes, the rudimentary mistakes... etc.
One player one position is gonna keep us in hell until we do what Denver had the balls to do with Wilson!
G bush gonna die on that deshaun boat
Like a fucking clown lmmfaooo
And you’re already dead on Fakers boat that sailed 2 years ago. Lmao 😂
I'm really beginning to feel like there is NO HOPE for the Browns. Until they can get a "real team" together, they're gonna continue to suck. On again off again IS NOT working!
Mcnuggets the only with good commentary on this. They literally designed this offense around what deshaun wants to do. The RPO/spread. Deshaun can't even run what he was good at in houston anymore.
Look at this clown 😂
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You right w/o no deep threat wr's no scheme to get them open it's on Stefanski also
@devinmckinney7716 cooper was 10th in 20+ yard receptions and 2nd in 40+ yard receptions last year. Jeudy was 7th in 40+ yard receptions. The wrs can stretch the field
The reason the texans went 4-12 wasnt o-line play. Its cause their defense gave 30 points per game. Their o-line was solid and was anchored by one of the best tackles in the league. Also, watson ran up stats in garbage time.
Crosby is bout to feast on us this week man...
Watson is never going to take this team to promise land.
You're slow. Defense allowed 3 td's in the first half. Jerome Ford fumbles, and Cedric Tillman drops a 4th down pass, practically wide open. You are actually slow
@@crucial3041 You're slow, Watson scored 15 points against one of the worst teams in the NFL. Even got a free 7 point spot 10 seconds in. You are actually slow.
Stefanski neither
@@crucial3041buddy it’s the New York Giants. 2 even be in a dog fight with a bottom ten team most likely tells you all you need 2 know. Just wait until Mahomes comes in December and shows up.
@luism8130 Watson isn't the whole offense. Sacked 7-8 times and escaped multiple others. Dummy. Watch the game instead of constantly blaming Watson. Learn the game then speak.
Sounds like everyone is change their tune from a few years ago where you all were saying get rid of baker and get an adult in the room and a real qb and this team will win. Now it’s not the qb it’s everyone else?
Myles MRI on foot smh!!!
Deshaun isn't to blame for this one guys! Who we pointing fingers at now huh? I can't take this shit with the Browns anymore! I give this team my heart and soul but can we as fans get the same back!!?? Every week with the same old optimism. No one wants to see us win so we just give in to that?? I feel like only Myles Garrett is the only one playing on the field! This might just be my last season.... hurts my heart to say it but I can't take the stress man...
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Defense is getting beat on the same play every game so far for a T.D.. Getting beat also on screen plays.
Burn it down. Trade anyone of value. Good bye Stefanski and good bye vastly overrated Andrew Berry. Go for the 1st pick and get a real QB. The whole organization has been a joke since 1999. Why would anyone pay 3 cents to see this dumpster fire ?
Good bye to Depodesta as well!!!
Co-signed. Stefanski is trash. Barry is overrated. This is not a professional football team. Ward and Chubb are keepers. That is it.
Stop defending Watson. A great QB lifts a bad team up. Watson ain't that guy. And the team isn't good enough to lift HIM up. This team is an undisciplined mess. They only got to the playoffs last year BECAUSE of Flacco, who came off the freaking COUCH! Coming off the COUCH this dude, interception machine that he is, was still a great enough QB to get these team a SPARK and get them to the PLayoffs last year. Also, why are they still throwing Ford out there like everything is cool with him. He's horrible. Foreman was better last week.
Getting busted by the cop for going 10+ over is not “ticky-tacky” G bro. 😂
Only thing they can do is change the QB. It’s not clicking and they need to change the energy in the locker room
the oline is the worst we have ever seen
It wasn’t Watson today. Anyone that knows football knows it was the line.
Bro I want him gone too but we owe him like 150 million dollars. He's going to play
Watson just can't play anymore, ain't showed us anything in 3 seasons.
Watson hovering around 50 cp stop making excuse for the guy
This wasn’t on Watson at all, if u know anything about football u should know we lost cuz of the o line. And I’m a baker bro. I hate Watson, but fucking o line absolutely sucked today.
I don't think John Dorsey was a better drafter than AB. He benefitted from tons of high-end picks due to the team losing for so long.
Team has to get better, play calling and o line. Watson starter slow but picked it up, Browns def was shaky early. We have hold down trench b4 Chubbs get back. Bad lost but Clev will be better, coach has to have team ready.
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I'm tired of people always blaming Deshaun. He isn't bad at all. He's just paired with the wrong type of players when it comes to receivers. They only have possession catchers. NO BURNERS to stretch the field and get open. When that happens it's on the head coach and offensive coordinator to script up plays to get these receivers open. They need to focus on the run and then apply the play action. No you didn't pay Deshaun for that but the type of personal you have calls for that unfortunately.
No washedson is really bad and the stats prove it, the game tape proves it, the results on the field prove it. Fanboys live in lala land where a 4-12 team stats matter from 4 years ago.
Deshaun is terrible. Crazy that Joe would throw for 300 yards and 3 tds every game.
Bush loves Watson
U love Stefanski
@@AbdulAziz-mu6kqI love the browns, and watson is trash and has been for 3 straight years. Meanwhile, stefanski has a coach of the year and a 11 win season with watson not playing.
@@Fog_rawWatson has 5 of those 11 wins are you dumb??? 🤡🤡
Crazy, why like a player who has statistically been one of the worst qbs in the nfl last 3 years
Dawand looks terrible
Back to looking like they’re playing a diff sport
Good QBs overcome these things. Watson is no good.
FIRE STEFANSKI
Replace the online with some factory workers
Burrow had a worse o line and went the Super Bowl
Bush is wrong. Yes, drop and fumble at the end but Watson put us in that position because he was a waste of space for 55 minutes.
🎯QB’s make their name with last minute drives. You can’t do that win you drop a big pass. You sound ignorant.
@@versewonderstrikes5353WRONG. QBs make their name with Ws. Watson will never give the Browns a happy ending.
@@markfarrell1865 So you agree. You can’t win if you WR drop perfect passes on 4th down . Blame Watson if that makes you feel good
@@versewonderstrikes5353Completely disagree. Over the past 20 games Watson is in the bottom 5 of all QBs. His biggest problem is the 6 inches between his ears….and I am starting to believe that is the same case with you.
1 starting offensive lineman is over 30 years old. G bush just making up stuff to defend deshaun again 😂😂😂
Yep lmaooo 💯💯😂😂😂
Bush getting that good pay off to slurp DNot.
I think G Bush owes Watson some money or somethin lol seems so loyal to a dude who is just "meh"
@loganadolf7363 they literally designed the offense to what watson wants to run and he still can't succeed. It's time to move on from watson
Tell that to the other 20-30+ starting QBs we’ve had since 99. It’s way more than a QB problem, it’s the ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE. No consistency whatsoever!
Browns will always brown! And dukey brown at that.
Jones has always been trash. Idk why this is a surprise to everyone? He’s so bad today, he made everyone around him worse.
Watson held the ball too long and when he didn’t he made about 3 ok-to-good throws and wildly missed on the rest.
The entire team offense and defense just looks flat and unmotivated when 4 is in at QB. I don’t even think Kevin wants him in the game…
Sorry Bush 230 million you better be able to put the Superman cape on him
Yup 100% u trade 6 draft picks for a qb, he better be able to take over and win a game like that.
@@anthonypa8045go root for another team. What’s stopping you ?
It's his fault Tillman dropped it
@@devinmckinney7716 i know right. They blame everything on Deshawn
The Browns have been #1 in the use of analytics and have been below average in Ws. This issue goes higher up the ladder than Kevin Stefanski. This is a 6 win team at max.
the fish rots from the head! LeT's bUIld A dOme!
It's time for Dorsey to call plays who would come and be an OC and not be able to call his own plays.
I have said that for years. Kevin Stefanski is a terrible fucking Coach
I’d say demote Kevin to water boy and promote Vrabel to HC! Let Dorsey call plays!!!
Dorset is calling the plays that's y they ain't running the ball. Stafanski offense is a Kubiak offense, play action zone runs, u dnt know what ur talking about! That's y Dorset got fired in Buffalo, h3 won't run the ball
@@ShilohSlasor-f5u wrong. Stefanski is calling the plays. Where the hell did you get your claim from
The o line didn't have a great game, but it wasn't as bad as people think. The giants were rushing 6 or 7 consistently. No line is going to hold up for 5 seconds when that happens, especially when they weren't using an extra blocker most of the time. G bush is so delusional trying to defend such a mediocre qb
When is Haslam going to forget about a new stadium focus on the team and realize he screwed up with Deshuan up one week down the next week ain't going to get it done
Fans when is enough enough . Stop buying tickets and apparel !!!! We need to make a Stand 30 years is too long for me how about you
I was going to go to a game with my dad this year as we always fo. I'm fed up. I'm over it
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Yup. We're crap again
Smfh... I'm so happy I paid 400+ bucks for Sunday ticket to watch this sh%!
Steeameast my dude...every game, every week all free...just bring an ad blocker
Beats dropping $$$ to go see this shit in person
I'm so happy I was out in the sunshine all day, instead of watching this like a sucker!
3 years of having Bill Callahan now he gone and you see who Kevin Stafanski really is. Fire this guy Bill can’t save him this season
Just think of all qbs we could have drafted in the last 4 years. No instead jimmy has to have this watson cat. Jimmy either needs to sell the team or back off and let the people he hired do their jobs. Dont be an al davis and jerry jones, especially now days. Being that hands on doesnt work. Neither berry nor stefanski wanted watson here. Our fortunes will never change unless we get the right owner or our owner backs off and leaves his opinions out of what berry is an expert at.
I don't care if this team puts up 100 points next week... It is the same old fuckin Browns... This team this franchise is supernatural in every kind of way that is bad... Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison could only have dreamed about being such successfull inventors as this franchise's ability to discover unforseen breakthroughs in they're craft.
Are you prepared to boycott with me ?
Or is this just words
@@EdwardZupan boycott what man?
Yeah, I’m tired of getting fooled every other week to think this team is going to be decent. They are what they are and that’s a bad team.
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GBush... Your QB can't read basic blitzes... Iggys and Ed's QBs can...
Ken Dorsey Sucks. Watson sucks. Our players prove every season that they are made out of the most breakable glass. I hate being a gd Browns Fan for 35 years... And now for what feels like the thousandth time I get to go to work on Monday and be made fun of for being so loyal to this POS team
I never realized how much Watson stinks
The teams were even in fumbles lost. Jones outplayed Watson. All week from UCSS, the Giants 'stink". It must be the coaches, not the players-let's fire them all. Listen to Bush-'out schemed' every single week. Whew. Get the armchairs out. Last week, UCSS gave several reasons why Cooper was 'off'. My, what a difference a week makes. Btw-the Cle Media-"insiders" sold us on this terrific offense. I guess practice isn't a good indicator. Psst: Maybe they miss Chubb.
With that O line Nick will not help much...
chubb carried the team, and now all the posers are EXPOSED!!!!
We can point to a handful of issues that weren't Deshaun Watson's fault, but we can find dozens more that are. Perhaps other guys are making mistakes because they are overwhelmed by how bad Watson is.
Doesn't take a genius for what ails the Browns. Execution is lacking on offense. Stefanski needs to simplify the offense and get Watson in favorable positions. If he can't,I say let Dorsey call the plays.
Idk what else they can do to make watson comfortable they've literally tailor-made the offensive scheme to what watson wants and he's still a failure
Deshaun put the ball into jerome fords neck. On that hand off. Ford probably still should've held onto it. But that was horrendous fundamentals from deshaun
lie
@@Fjigg watch the replay. It was at the upper chest......
no it wasn't bro @@Fog_raw
Washedson does in fact have horrible fundamentals.
Totally untrue. Watch the replay.
Can we see what thrash can do yet?
You guys are hilarious in your refusal to see what this really is.
I don’t blame Wilson. I don’t blame Stefanski. I don’t blame the O-Line, the absence of Nick Chubb or anyone else on the field.
What scares ME is who we’re not even looking at regarding this team.
But who cares, right?
Then on two one thousand let it go don't hold it.
Reason every qb is struggling to break 200 yards is because coaches are trying to throw for 400
Maybe when we draft a receiver we should start throwing him out there & seeing if he can figure it out right out the gate. I'm getting tired of seeing these guys drafted & then sit & barely get sprinkled in...if you put some work on a guy like Cedric Tillman starting from game 1 LAST YEAR maybe you'd see some development. Or maybe we'd have known after a couple games he ain't that good. Rashee Rice ain't over in KC warming the bench, is he? DK Metcalf didn't play the part time WR4 spot in Seattle his first year did he?
I'm not saying our guys our that caliber, but maybe with dudes like Cedric Tillman, David Bell, & now Jamari Thrash we should be putting them out there to play, & play a lot. We treat our drafted WRs like they're QBs "playing behind veterans" for a year or two. Seems to hurt them more than help them