Bull was happy as a kid in a candy store. When they ran Baker out of town and mortgaged, everything to get D. Watson, now he acts like he was never all in on the watson deal Bull has always been a flip-flopper and a bandwagon guy. He hated every move, the Cavs made and every move the guardians made, but now that they're winning, he acts like it was all his idea.😅😅😅
Happy New Year to the UCSS. Thanks for another great year of analyzing cleveland sports. Would you guys give the wizards cash a player and future draft pick for Jonas V to be the Cavs back up center in case Allen gets hurt like he did last year?
We underestimated how much off the field drama would affect gameplay!!! That man was LOVED!!! I actually feel sorry for him but it’s hard to feel bad for a guy that owns a plane.
There were NO legitimate reasons to move on from Baker. Baker was great in 2020 and would have been great in 2021 if he wasn't for not having any WRs worth anything and his injuries. He is playing great again even though he had to get over being on the Browns. They toyed with his head and he toyed with their heads right back and he won. Good for Baker. I hope he will end up being a SB winner which will even make the Browns look worse than they look right now.
The cavs and knicks didn't do any maintenance days last year and how'd that work out for them in playoffs?? Both teams were broken down physically at the end of the year. The cavs are different this year because they are keeping their minutes per game low
Baker was ALWAYS GONNA BE WHO HE HAS BECOME......Berry and STE CANT WIN SKI thought they were smarter than everyone and destroyed the forward momentum of this franchise and we are yet again in REBUILD MODE!
You can't put blame on Stefanski. That was a Haslam and Berry move. Stefanski was against letting Baker go, and signing Watson. He wanted to keep Baker and build around him more. Imagine "$230 Million" spread around Baker? LOL. Be that as it may, rocks are more football intelligent than Haslam and Berry. I mean who gets rid of a QB that helped get the Browns to the post (first time in 18 seasons), then signs a QB to a ridiculous $230 Million contract, that has never been too, or better yet won, a Conference Championship game? Doorknobs Haslam and Berry do. With them two calling the shots, the song will remain the same with the Browns.
Baker quit on this team and he also blamed brown fans after a loss. Baker had the maturity level of a baby and he never took responsibility for his terrible play. I’m glad he finally grew up but his failure as a Brown was absolutely his fault.
@@d4ljosh859: Your intelligence of "Browns" football is pathetic. LOL. Baker was the first QB in "18 seasons" to help get the Browns to the post, winning the first round, and advancing, only to get cheated by officiating vs the Queefs.
U poor thing. The person responsible for making all these bad draft picks and deshaun watson trade is the GM andrew berry. And yes he is clueless and needs to be fired... our headcoach does not make any draft picks.
I think its insane that Andrew Berry is not fired. one can make a very strong, empirically based and almost overwhelming case that he is in fact the worst general manager in the history of professional sports, or at the very least the GM responsible for both the worst trade in the modern history of sports, as well as the worst contract in the history of football. Plus Jed Wills. I mean, Jed Wills guys. Obviously, this man cannot evaluate things like work ethic, character, attitude....All the guys high in those traits like Myles, Denzel, Bitonio, Chubb, Njoku etc... were here when this regime got here. AB sucks.
You need a new Staff by 26 if they don't turn it around in 25 with this staff. New staff in 26 will have 3 seasons to get you in playoff mode for the new stadium in 29.
Baker Mayfield 4878 total yards, 44 total tds, 71.4% completion percentage, 106.8 passer rating. 10-7, division champs again, #3 seed in the playoffs, probowl again. Looks like gbush and bull were wrong about every part of their deshaun and baker trade takes. 😂
Look at his years between Cleveland and the bucs, he wasn’t good, he was just okay, if he still had those years in Cleveland yall would want him gone still, lay off of him it’s over, it was never gonna work in Cleveland, he was immature here, everything was everyone else’s fault, never his, people also forget he wanted to play with the injury, but people forget that, Watson WAS really good at the time of the trade.
They aren’t going to bring back Van Pelt. Stefanski wanted to move Van Pelt to RB coach, he declined and hence the firing. Iykyk. So it’s not going from demotion, to firing, to back in the same role you were going to get demoted from a year later. Not happening.
G needs to stop trying to use the DTR crap all the time....that was DW fault by telling team he could go that whole week, and then told them game day he couldn't go....
Funny Deshawn was 3 and3 in 2022 and 5 and 1 in 2023 with AVP. Or was it Kevin calling plays. He was the one with the Dennys menu. 8 and 4. This yr Kevin called the plays when Deshawn was in there. No line no run game penalty s out the Ying yang. Coop dropping balls . Judy getting balls to catch because Deshawn had no time to make his secound read.
having guys dont say anything about the coach isnt a flex because a coach its just to be liked its about being tuff and getting the best of your players
The 49ers haven't won a superbowl with that style of offense that Stafanski runs in cleveland. And that's in the NFC . Certainly not in the AFC. The sealing on Kevin is 10 to 11 wins. And not a superbowl. Guys. Don't count BAKER out guys. He's proved this organization wrong.
You gotta figure out who will be the worst team next year.....Giants, Jets or Raiders.....then trade your pick with next years #1 so that you can draft Arch Manning 1st overall next year. Fill gaps this year, QB next year. MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Baker Mayfield 4878 total yards, 44 total tds, 71.4% completion percentage, 106.8 passer rating. 10-7, division champs again, #3 seed in the playoffs, probowl again. Fire that tard Berry for trading away a clear franchise qb. Berry is useless. Traded 3 first rounders for deshaun. What a clown
Bitonio will be back for at least 1 more year, Myles will be fine, Chubb will probably not be what he was unfortunately, JOK we just don't have enough information. They can't violate the HIPPA law on him.
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But wasn't it Kevin Stefanski who hired Ken Dorsey? The offense looked bad no matter who was running it. They could not run the football, and the offensive line was not winning the battle during pass plays. If Bill Callahan was there, I bet the offense would have looked much better no matter who was at quarterback. Kevin Stefanski also hired the new offensive line coach too. It will be interesting to see who he hires as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach now, because Kevin Stefanski has used up all of his free passes. I am sure that he will get his way and the Browns will go out and get Kirk Cousins to run his system at quarterback, but if that fails, then it is squarely on Stefanski.
Did he? Or did he just rant. Stefanski takes blame in every single press conference and ever single time he talks to the media. "That's on me" is his catchphrase at this point. G wants to rant and rave about accountability but has bad take after bad take after bad take and flip flop after flip flop every day of the week for years and somehow is employed on this little youtube show. He ever going to be held accountable for bad takes and wrong information?
@@aaronzorik133 He isn't that bad but he is wrong on this. This season was all about Watson. I would put money that Stefanski didn't want to play Watson at all.
G bush said it, be a leader of Men Stefanski!!! This upcoming season ALL eyes r On u pal!!! Let’s see how this draft goes!!! The reason I still love this team is because of guys like you!!!
Now that DW4 is out of the way, the next move is to TRADE MYLES! His value will NEVER BE HIGHER and he has more football behind him than in front of him. Browns can get 2 1st rounders for him now which will really help this rebuild get off the ground!
They are not in a rebuild. Dorsey won't be calling plays and Watson will not be behind center next year. If they do a good job in the draft and get a good QB they will probably at least be close to the playoffs next year. No rebuild necessary.
G claiming his mental health dealing with Browns is bad, but rocking all the gear today...😂🤣😂, these guys hate team so much just focus on Guardians and Cavs...
definitely need to take a playmaker or qb with our first round pick. We didnt score any points this year. we need guys that can score. Berry has extra picks in 3rd/6th rounds picks. they are not going to use all of these picks. surely they will trade up. Whatever it may be you must find the qb that stefanksi wants. I hope that is a strong pocket passer with the ability to extend plays if needed. Someone smart and mature. who can grow with the game. easier said than done, go browns!
A good coach with a bad season when told by the Gm and owner we don't need to win these games we are looking at draft position. The good coach will keep you in the game but rely on the kicker to loose the game for ya on extra points and field goals . He Kevin if he was any good with offense and qbs he would of had DTR and Zappy looking a lot better than he did.
Hindsight is 2020. It’s really easy to now say how good Baker would’ve been had we kept him. Super simple to be like well he’s doing well now so he would’ve done well with us. The baker I remember was dynamic, fun to watch, one of the boys. But I also remember the interceptions and while that’s part of the game it didn’t help us. All in all, what upset me most about us ditching him was we had just won that playoff game against Steelers. Made no sense to move on from him regardless of what was out there. I’m tired of the QB and coach hopping I’ve seen all my life. That being said it’s over and done with and we really can only speculate. Who knows if he would be good had we kept him around. My advice for fellow browns fans is to stop bringing up what could have been and focus on what is and what could be. We live too much in the past and focus on the pain instead of what we can be excited about moving forward. Stay frosty dawg pound.
They 'changed' the offense to suit deshawn but the plan was trash.... it was 3 different offenses and kevin did that on purpose. He did it to stick it to Jimmy for making him switch up his style. Dorsey was the scape goat.... for kevin.
The players "defend STE CANT WIN SKI" is because he is SOFT, gives them an easy path to a paycheck, isn't on their ass, lies to the media for them etc.......
So let me get this straight......we are moving from a bad offense, back to another bad offense that was never top 10 in the league to begin with??? 😂😂😂😂😂
I hate it when people who are not in on any of the front office conversations, act as though they were in the room. If you were not in on any of the conversations, don't report it as if you were there. I don't care what you think went on, because 9 times out of 10 you are incorrect.
Stefansky may have great integrity but i think when guys try and push the envelope to some sense of identity… they get them outta there and shift the blame…
Why in God's name do you want a falcon reject QB .Quit signing old has beens . The Bengals backup Broowning is 27 good and ready to start bad part us how do you get him ? I th I nk next year he's a FA ?
G Bush defends Deshaun for getting his money, playing like garbage, and going on pasta vacations, but rips Stefanski for getting his money and doing what the people signing the check ask him to do.
2:06:04 *Bull......did u really just defend a D.E.I hire in joy taylor............???? oooooooo boy or boy..... *I'm gonna have to hold my tongue on this 1......
Great coaches run multiple styles off offenses. Stafanski just wants to run qb up underneath the center and play action. He dosnt no how to call shot gun plays. What coach dosnt run shot gun. ? 🤔
Tell the Raiders you want Crosby and picks this year for the trade up. Max wants out of Vegas anyway. Bring in Fields and pick up Will Howard later in the draft. Mason Graham over Travis in the first round. O line help in second round and .........playoffs baby!!
They traded Mayfield because he was cocky/arrogant and people didn't like that. They took a chance on a better talent, at the time, with significant baggage, and lost big time. Myles Garrett is not the hinge on this offseason, he's one player. What is wrong with these three goofballs? They pretend they know all these things, what are routinely wrong on most things.
Stafanski got to run his offense not only with Deshawn but with BAKER also. It dosnt work. He can make a back up qb look better but a allpro qb look worse. And Conklin we got your own identity and that's the most penalized oline in browns history.
They cannot leave Andrew Barry. Make another choice regarding talent on this football team. He's as incompetent as Bulll when it comes to assessing talent.😅😅😅
Lmao boy deshaun was 1-6 with the lowest qbr in the nfl, deshaun had 5 passing tds and 6 total turnovers... u think coaches told him to turn the ball over more than you score 😂😂😂😂. Happy he had a setback never got to see that trash again
@ how about the worst o line in the league, how about the worst rec core in the league with bum Amari cooper. With bad coaching getting a lot of penalties inside the red zone to negate your team touch downs and penalties on 3rd down . I can keep going. It’s funny how theses other QBs get excuses. Watson drove your team to win the game in 4 of your 6 games to win on the last possession and penalties and drops hindered those drives. A lot Amari cooper wasn’t a number 1 and Watson treated him like it . He played better when he was gone . And you can’t have just one good rec anyways you need at least 2 . U play to keep your self to win at the end and when u have bad coaching and undisciplined players that usually will kill u .
@ njoku can’t even run a route . They give excuses to the everyone . Every other qb get a chance to at least get another coach if they don’t mesh . Except 4 and that’s crazy
I get where Bull is going with this but Stefanski needs to be fired. Look at some of the talent he has had to work with and some of the decisions hes made. He is mid at BEST. Will never win a super bowl with his leadership, or lack there of
Can’t take bowl anymore. I just can’t watch the show any longer. If I have to listen to bull for most of the show and take over the comments. He’s wrong most of the time and he’s really ill informed.
I'd be stunned if they didnt take a qb #2. They made the decision weeks ago to get a high draft pick. They didnt do that just to trade down and trade out of a blue chip player. The goal was qb or blue chip player. Now they can have their choice. My thing is if they pass on qb, and that person goes on to be a fqb they look stupid. Its the most important position in sports. They have the DPOY and won 3 games, none of those other talents translate to wins. They just dont. MG himself beat the Colts last year and hes a HOF talent. Passing on a qb when you dont have one and you're in position is something this franchise has done countless times. How can you go into 2025 and roll with just a vet and a mid rounder? They win 5 games everyone is fired, you win 8 games, cool but now your out of position to get your qb and you have to trade assets to go get one. IMO address needs in FA, still sign your vet, but draft your qb. You can maybe buy them some time before throwing them to the fire. But you have an idea who your future is at the position. The situation in Clev is good if your a qb. You rarely are a top 3 prospect going to a former playoff team. They have a wr 1, a tight end, and are committed to running the ball and giving you a play action run game. Plus you have a solid defense. And if its draft capital you want, just trade back from the top of round 2. Its a highly valuable pick. You can move back and pick up a 3/4 or future 2 pending how far back you go and what you want. If they dont love a qb, then just stick and pick Carter. Least its someone who can rush the passer and has all pro level talent you can pair with Garrett. Getting cute and trading down is how you piss around and end up with a lesser talent, and I'm sorry these guys have not shown the ability to move down and still get talent. Every year "this qb class sucks, wait til next year" and time and time again someone becomes a guy, sometimes more than one. 2017 prime example. Nobody thought much of Herbert. Nobody thought anything of Nix. If you're waiting for your generational Elway prospect you'll be waiting a long time. Last one was Lawrence and he looks like an average qb. Imagine going through that season, and picking a tackle at 2. I'd be furious. Tackles dont score points. Bengals passed on tackle took Chase and went to SB, addressed that position in FA. You can plug that with FA.
It was his choice to get rid of Baker Mayfield, because they did not get along. Baker did not want to run his system, so he was out. I think whomever they draft is going to have to be someone who is comfortable with operating under center with heavy play action.
Do you really believe that he has no say in who they bring in? All I've heard for three years is that Shitpanski is the one who won over Watson with all these innovative ideas on how to use him. So.... Baker/Keenum/Mullens/Watson/Brissett/DTR/PJ/Flacco/Winston.... none of them were signed with his approval?
I appreciate all the hard work you guys put into your show…, 42 years old and been a die hard fan my whole life…, this season was the most depressing season in the history of the franchise, expectations were very high this year!!!!!!
I can't wait for the dome!!! It's the best thing that has happened to Cleveland and the Browns since 1999!!!
You must be rich⁷
Bull was happy as a kid in a candy store. When they ran Baker out of town and mortgaged, everything to get D. Watson, now he acts like he was never all in on the watson deal
Bull has always been a flip-flopper and a bandwagon guy.
He hated every move, the Cavs made and every move the guardians made, but now that they're winning, he acts like it was all his idea.😅😅😅
Bull has always admitted that he was wrong about Watson.
Happy New Year to the UCSS. Thanks for another great year of analyzing cleveland sports. Would you guys give the wizards cash a player and future draft pick for Jonas V to be the Cavs back up center in case Allen gets hurt like he did last year?
I heard that the setback Watson suffered was a fracture of his starterus major compounded by a strain in his Stefanski-Berry connectus tissue.
We underestimated how much off the field drama would affect gameplay!!! That man was LOVED!!! I actually feel sorry for him but it’s hard to feel bad for a guy that owns a plane.
Feel bad for a predator??? Huh??
I feel bad that everybody hates him, that would feel horrible but he is very deserving of it…. Maybe he can be redeemed??
There were NO legitimate reasons to move on from Baker. Baker was great in 2020 and would have been great in 2021 if he wasn't for not having any WRs worth anything and his injuries. He is playing great again even though he had to get over being on the Browns. They toyed with his head and he toyed with their heads right back and he won. Good for Baker. I hope he will end up being a SB winner which will even make the Browns look worse than they look right now.
Revisionist history. That is categorically false.
The cavs and knicks didn't do any maintenance days last year and how'd that work out for them in playoffs?? Both teams were broken down physically at the end of the year. The cavs are different this year because they are keeping their minutes per game low
Baker was ALWAYS GONNA BE WHO HE HAS BECOME......Berry and STE CANT WIN SKI thought they were smarter than everyone and destroyed the forward momentum of this franchise and we are yet again in REBUILD MODE!
You can't put blame on Stefanski. That was a Haslam and Berry move. Stefanski was against letting Baker go, and signing Watson. He wanted to keep Baker and build around him more. Imagine "$230 Million" spread around Baker? LOL. Be that as it may, rocks are more football intelligent than Haslam and Berry. I mean who gets rid of a QB that helped get the Browns to the post (first time in 18 seasons), then signs a QB to a ridiculous $230 Million contract, that has never been too, or better yet won, a Conference Championship game? Doorknobs Haslam and Berry do. With them two calling the shots, the song will remain the same with the Browns.
Baker quit on this team and he also blamed brown fans after a loss. Baker had the maturity level of a baby and he never took responsibility for his terrible play.
I’m glad he finally grew up but his failure as a Brown was absolutely his fault.
I know man but no one wanted him. No one. Dont forget that.. thats it.
Ok, so they need to:
DRAFT sanders #2
and
HIRE the best QB coach you can find to work with him.
Hey Bull, you and Joe burrow will be sitting on the couch watching Baker in the playoffs.😅😅😅
Did ya'll see Bakers MVP numbers???? Imagine if we had a QB like that....
The Browns are weird. Only the Browns would have done what they did with Baker after his 2020 season.
lol mvp according to who they would of gave it to Barkley before him
And we did have him and sucked more then we were good
@@d4ljosh859: Your intelligence of "Browns" football is pathetic. LOL. Baker was the first QB in "18 seasons" to help get the Browns to the post, winning the first round, and advancing, only to get cheated by officiating vs the Queefs.
I think it is obvious that Dorsey was forced on Stefanski and after the season he said he didn't want him and he wants to get his own OC.
The Detroit Lions last night showed what coaches should do. They outplayed Minnesota with the best receivers
AB getting the noose, huh? The NOOSE? Really bad choice of words
Jimmy is not going to let him do play caller. He wants him to coach the game and bring in a oc that runs his style of offense.
Starting to think that if Baker had an adult in the room he could have succeeded here
3-14 and Lloyd and Bull have the pipe rammed all the way down their throats......UNBELIEVABLE.....these are very UNSERIOUS media guys...
It's dumb to let a Coach on the "Hot Seat" draft the #2. It's no way he'll do well w/ a rookie. Fire him now, & let new HC pick the #2.😎
U poor thing. The person responsible for making all these bad draft picks and deshaun watson trade is the GM andrew berry. And yes he is clueless and needs to be fired... our headcoach does not make any draft picks.
Hell jack Conklin hasn't played half the time Deshawn has qb. He's always injured.
Draft Jake Sawyer from Ohio State to take JOK's place
I think its insane that Andrew Berry is not fired. one can make a very strong, empirically based and almost overwhelming case that he is in fact the worst general manager in the history of professional sports, or at the very least the GM responsible for both the worst trade in the modern history of sports, as well as the worst contract in the history of football. Plus Jed Wills. I mean, Jed Wills guys. Obviously, this man cannot evaluate things like work ethic, character, attitude....All the guys high in those traits like Myles, Denzel, Bitonio, Chubb, Njoku etc... were here when this regime got here. AB sucks.
only because he has the cap situation so crazy and probably the only guy who understands it
Bull, you gave a well spoken intelligent argument supporting your opinion. Don't know if you are right or wrong, but I respect your rationale.
You need a new Staff by 26 if they don't turn it around in 25 with this staff. New staff in 26 will have 3 seasons to get you in playoff mode for the new stadium in 29.
Baker Mayfield 4878 total yards, 44 total tds, 71.4% completion percentage, 106.8 passer rating. 10-7, division champs again, #3 seed in the playoffs, probowl again. Looks like gbush and bull were wrong about every part of their deshaun and baker trade takes. 😂
Don't forget Lloyd. He still would die on that hill
2nd in turnovers in the worst division in football
Look at his years between Cleveland and the bucs, he wasn’t good, he was just okay, if he still had those years in Cleveland yall would want him gone still, lay off of him it’s over, it was never gonna work in Cleveland, he was immature here, everything was everyone else’s fault, never his, people also forget he wanted to play with the injury, but people forget that, Watson WAS really good at the time of the trade.
@garretthyde999 he's also barely making the playoffs in the worst division in the nfl
@garretthyde999 that's because stupid Substanski let him play hurt. He took you to the playoffs. Cleveland sucks again 😂
They aren’t going to bring back Van Pelt. Stefanski wanted to move Van Pelt to RB coach, he declined and hence the firing. Iykyk. So it’s not going from demotion, to firing, to back in the same role you were going to get demoted from a year later. Not happening.
That SNAKE Berry threw STE CANT WIN SKI under the bus 😂😂😂 "Hiring Dorsey was STE CANT WIN SKIs decision" 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
Lol I caught that too. He's quick to put some blame on others. Must not happen that often, he's use to being in the wrong all the time 😂
Coach, System, QB Then add other pieces. That's the winning formula.
G needs to stop trying to use the DTR crap all the time....that was DW fault by telling team he could go that whole week, and then told them game day he couldn't go....
Funny Deshawn was 3 and3 in 2022 and 5 and 1 in 2023 with AVP. Or was it Kevin calling plays. He was the one with the Dennys menu. 8 and 4. This yr Kevin called the plays when Deshawn was in there. No line no run game penalty s out the Ying yang. Coop dropping balls . Judy getting balls to catch because Deshawn had no time to make his secound read.
This guy Lloyd said LT at #2 overall 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
Stefanski looked stunning in that JUSTICE/OPPORTUNITY/FREEDOM/EQUITY NFL hoodie, lol.
Berry was only giving what the fan that cant stand DW4 what they want to here. To take the heat off of him Berry or Stafanski from the fan.
Whoever hire these two guys must be held accountable. I mean, their decision days are over.
having guys dont say anything about the coach isnt a flex because a coach its just to be liked its about being tuff and getting the best of your players
Baker Mayfield 4878 total yards, 44 total tds, 71.4% completion percentage, 106.8 passer rating. 10-7, division champs again, #3 seed in the playoffs, probowl again..... deshaun 1-6 lowest qBr in the nfl, 5 passing tds, 6 turnovers. Lmao
So Bull, WHO FLIPFLOPS CONTINUOUSLY, makes a big drama about a huge announcement he has to make.....but just FLIPFLOPS again.....😒😒😒
The 49ers haven't won a superbowl with that style of offense that Stafanski runs in cleveland. And that's in the NFC . Certainly not in the AFC. The sealing on Kevin is 10 to 11 wins. And not a superbowl. Guys. Don't count BAKER out guys. He's proved this organization wrong.
You may as well throw Freddie Kitchens on that CRAP LIST Mikey!
What are they going to use the new domed stadium for? Surely, not football.
You gotta figure out who will be the worst team next year.....Giants, Jets or Raiders.....then trade your pick with next years #1 so that you can draft Arch Manning 1st overall next year. Fill gaps this year, QB next year. MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Mannings will NEVER let arch come to Cleveland (or raiders or jags or Carolina or jets or colts)
Rees developed Ian Book into a 4th round pick. If youre a notre fan or watch their games, you know that was quite an accomplishment
Baker Mayfield 4878 total yards, 44 total tds, 71.4% completion percentage, 106.8 passer rating. 10-7, division champs again, #3 seed in the playoffs, probowl again. Fire that tard Berry for trading away a clear franchise qb. Berry is useless. Traded 3 first rounders for deshaun. What a clown
Hell yeah it was
Bitonio will be back for at least 1 more year, Myles will be fine, Chubb will probably not be what he was unfortunately, JOK we just don't have enough information. They can't violate the HIPPA law on him.
You continue to set the bar high, Your channel is a testament to the power of hard work and consistency. I'm a fan of your dedication! - "Success is not for the lazy; it's for those willing to work tirelessly."
You can succeed wildly in this life by occasionally swinging for the fences. Or you can sit on your couch and wish the Browns kept Bake.
But wasn't it Kevin Stefanski who hired Ken Dorsey? The offense looked bad no matter who was running it. They could not run the football, and the offensive line was not winning the battle during pass plays. If Bill Callahan was there, I bet the offense would have looked much better no matter who was at quarterback. Kevin Stefanski also hired the new offensive line coach too. It will be interesting to see who he hires as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach now, because Kevin Stefanski has used up all of his free passes. I am sure that he will get his way and the Browns will go out and get Kirk Cousins to run his system at quarterback, but if that fails, then it is squarely on Stefanski.
G Bush hit the nail on the head about Stefanski.
Did he? Or did he just rant. Stefanski takes blame in every single press conference and ever single time he talks to the media. "That's on me" is his catchphrase at this point. G wants to rant and rave about accountability but has bad take after bad take after bad take and flip flop after flip flop every day of the week for years and somehow is employed on this little youtube show. He ever going to be held accountable for bad takes and wrong information?
@@aaronzorik133 💯💯💯
He knows nothing.
@@aaronzorik133 He isn't that bad but he is wrong on this. This season was all about Watson. I would put money that Stefanski didn't want to play Watson at all.
G bush said it, be a leader of Men Stefanski!!! This upcoming season ALL eyes r On u pal!!! Let’s see how this draft goes!!! The reason I still love this team is because of guys like you!!!
Bush doesn't know if he is a leader or not. I have a feeling there has been a lot of interference from the front office or Haslam.
G your right it is wrong he's comeing back Stafanski that is.
Browns will trade back to #7 with Raiders....and get their 1st round next year.
If they’re smart. Which is very un-browns like
G-Bush, you're spot on, too. Excellent insight!
Personal hang ups BAKER? What's this leading to Jason. ?
Now that DW4 is out of the way, the next move is to TRADE MYLES! His value will NEVER BE HIGHER and he has more football behind him than in front of him.
Browns can get 2 1st rounders for him now which will really help this rebuild get off the ground!
They are not in a rebuild. Dorsey won't be calling plays and Watson will not be behind center next year. If they do a good job in the draft and get a good QB they will probably at least be close to the playoffs next year. No rebuild necessary.
Baker baker, touchdown maker.😅
I’m sure it’s been said before. But I’m so thankful for UCSS because I no longer have to put up with freaking Aaron Goldhammer
You only changed your mind Bull because you heard what you wanted to here today on Deshawn from Berry and Stafanski
G claiming his mental health dealing with Browns is bad, but rocking all the gear today...😂🤣😂, these guys hate team so much just focus on Guardians and Cavs...
ratings would TANK harder than the Browns
definitely need to take a playmaker or qb with our first round pick. We didnt score any points this year. we need guys that can score. Berry has extra picks in 3rd/6th rounds picks. they are not going to use all of these picks. surely they will trade up. Whatever it may be you must find the qb that stefanksi wants. I hope that is a strong pocket passer with the ability to extend plays if needed. Someone smart and mature. who can grow with the game. easier said than done, go browns!
Doug pederson really developed trevor Lawrence lmao
A good coach with a bad season when told by the Gm and owner we don't need to win these games we are looking at draft position. The good coach will keep you in the game but rely on the kicker to loose the game for ya on extra points and field goals
. He Kevin if he was any good with offense and qbs he would of had DTR and Zappy looking a lot better than he did.
We need a QB regardless
Hindsight is 2020. It’s really easy to now say how good Baker would’ve been had we kept him. Super simple to be like well he’s doing well now so he would’ve done well with us. The baker I remember was dynamic, fun to watch, one of the boys. But I also remember the interceptions and while that’s part of the game it didn’t help us. All in all, what upset me most about us ditching him was we had just won that playoff game against Steelers. Made no sense to move on from him regardless of what was out there. I’m tired of the QB and coach hopping I’ve seen all my life. That being said it’s over and done with and we really can only speculate. Who knows if he would be good had we kept him around. My advice for fellow browns fans is to stop bringing up what could have been and focus on what is and what could be. We live too much in the past and focus on the pain instead of what we can be excited about moving forward. Stay frosty dawg pound.
They 'changed' the offense to suit deshawn but the plan was trash.... it was 3 different offenses and kevin did that on purpose. He did it to stick it to Jimmy for making him switch up his style. Dorsey was the scape goat.... for kevin.
Based on?
TAKE TRAVIS PLEASE
The players "defend STE CANT WIN SKI" is because he is SOFT, gives them an easy path to a paycheck, isn't on their ass, lies to the media for them etc.......
So let me get this straight......we are moving from a bad offense, back to another bad offense that was never top 10 in the league to begin with??? 😂😂😂😂😂
Offense was 10th in points in 2023 and was in the top 7 in rushing offense every year besides 2023, where they were 11th.
@@Fog_raw i am talking about top 10 overall offense.....doing some things good is not the same as being a complete top 10 offense.
@Fjigg points scored is the most important offensive stat though
@@Fog_rawhow'd that turnout??
@Fjigg turned out to win 11 games while starting 5 different qbs and 4 different offensive tackles and no nick chubb..... seems pretty good to me
I hate it when people who are not in on any of the front office conversations, act as though they were in the room. If you were not in on any of the conversations, don't report it as if you were there. I don't care what you think went on, because 9 times out of 10 you are incorrect.
It’s a sports show. They get paid to speculate.
Stefansky may have great integrity but i think when guys try and push the envelope to some sense of identity… they get them outta there and shift the blame…
We will see if he will outlast Myles Garrett.
Why in God's name do you want a falcon reject QB .Quit signing old has beens . The Bengals backup Broowning is 27 good and ready to start bad part us how do you get him ? I th I nk next year he's a FA ?
G Bush defends Deshaun for getting his money, playing like garbage, and going on pasta vacations, but rips Stefanski for getting his money and doing what the people signing the check ask him to do.
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*Bull......did u really just defend a D.E.I hire in joy taylor............???? oooooooo boy or boy.....
*I'm gonna have to hold my tongue on this 1......
Jacoby brissett was above average. He just had one of the worst rush defenses in a couple of decades on that team
Way better than declown washedson
@@anthonypa8045 no shit lol
Your right G . About Kevin. They've had 5 yrs. Now there going to own it. It's a little yet.
Great coaches run multiple styles off offenses. Stafanski just wants to run qb up underneath the center and play action. He dosnt no how to call shot gun plays. What coach dosnt run shot gun. ? 🤔
Tell the Raiders you want Crosby and picks this year for the trade up. Max wants out of Vegas anyway. Bring in Fields and pick up Will Howard later in the draft. Mason Graham over Travis in the first round. O line help in second round and .........playoffs baby!!
They traded Mayfield because he was cocky/arrogant and people didn't like that. They took a chance on a better talent, at the time, with significant baggage, and lost big time. Myles Garrett is not the hinge on this offseason, he's one player. What is wrong with these three goofballs? They pretend they know all these things, what are routinely wrong on most things.
Stafanski got to run his offense not only with Deshawn but with BAKER also. It dosnt work. He can make a back up qb look better but a allpro qb look worse. And Conklin we got your own identity and that's the most penalized oline in browns history.
Vrable is one of the most overrated coaches in the league lol
Fabulous take. Love Baker... Always did.
Remember they did the same thing to BAKER. Look at BAKER in the present 😂
They cannot leave Andrew Barry. Make another choice regarding talent on this football team. He's as incompetent as Bulll when it comes to assessing talent.😅😅😅
I’m just relieved we’re DONE with Watson, I was so happy when we first got him!!! I drank all the kool aide man, boy was I wrong.
Takes a real man to admit he was wrong. Maybe these guys will one day. Clearly sticking with baker would have been the better move for this team.
@ Yeah I totally agree, I’m glad he playing well!! Baker has ❤️
Who cares about a Bull epiphany? Maybe, just maybe, it’s not all about him. So friggin hard to take.
that was they fault not dw4 hes doing what they asked.
Lmao boy deshaun was 1-6 with the lowest qbr in the nfl, deshaun had 5 passing tds and 6 total turnovers... u think coaches told him to turn the ball over more than you score 😂😂😂😂. Happy he had a setback never got to see that trash again
@ how about the worst o line in the league, how about the worst rec core in the league with bum Amari cooper. With bad coaching getting a lot of penalties inside the red zone to negate your team touch downs and penalties on 3rd down . I can keep going. It’s funny how theses other QBs get excuses. Watson drove your team to win the game in 4 of your 6 games to win on the last possession and penalties and drops hindered those drives. A lot Amari cooper wasn’t a number 1 and Watson treated him like it . He played better when he was gone . And you can’t have just one good rec anyways you need at least 2 . U play to keep your self to win at the end and when u have bad coaching and undisciplined players that usually will kill u .
@@ckpbeatz9466yes bro and don’t forget Njoku was out and the running backs were not great especially with 3rd string blockers
@ njoku can’t even run a route . They give excuses to the everyone . Every other qb get a chance to at least get another coach if they don’t mesh . Except 4 and that’s crazy
I get where Bull is going with this but Stefanski needs to be fired. Look at some of the talent he has had to work with and some of the decisions hes made. He is mid at BEST. Will never win a super bowl with his leadership, or lack there of
I can see why someone would flip flop on coach but what the hell has berry done?
Get out of here Jason.
Lloyd setting up the future excuses already 😂😂😂 "this isn't a strong QB clas" 🤡🤡🤡
It really isnt though
You draft abdul carter or mason graham and dont trade down far enough to where you arent able to get either of them
No more bringing in retreads in the NFL... get a bright offensive mind from College football
Stop with the revisionist history, ppl booed Baker out of town!
Bull your only fooling your self.
G Bush we not gon act like you didn’t steal that Giants trade back scenario from Quincy either lol
No one stole anything, doesnt take a rocket scientist to come up with that hypothetical scenario
Why the HELL would you take a left damn tackle. To protect WHO?
Drew Allar will be the best qb in the draft this and next year
Can’t take bowl anymore. I just can’t watch the show any longer. If I have to listen to bull for most of the show and take over the comments. He’s wrong most of the time and he’s really ill informed.
I'd be stunned if they didnt take a qb #2. They made the decision weeks ago to get a high draft pick. They didnt do that just to trade down and trade out of a blue chip player. The goal was qb or blue chip player. Now they can have their choice. My thing is if they pass on qb, and that person goes on to be a fqb they look stupid. Its the most important position in sports. They have the DPOY and won 3 games, none of those other talents translate to wins. They just dont. MG himself beat the Colts last year and hes a HOF talent. Passing on a qb when you dont have one and you're in position is something this franchise has done countless times. How can you go into 2025 and roll with just a vet and a mid rounder? They win 5 games everyone is fired, you win 8 games, cool but now your out of position to get your qb and you have to trade assets to go get one. IMO address needs in FA, still sign your vet, but draft your qb. You can maybe buy them some time before throwing them to the fire. But you have an idea who your future is at the position.
The situation in Clev is good if your a qb. You rarely are a top 3 prospect going to a former playoff team. They have a wr 1, a tight end, and are committed to running the ball and giving you a play action run game. Plus you have a solid defense.
And if its draft capital you want, just trade back from the top of round 2. Its a highly valuable pick. You can move back and pick up a 3/4 or future 2 pending how far back you go and what you want. If they dont love a qb, then just stick and pick Carter. Least its someone who can rush the passer and has all pro level talent you can pair with Garrett. Getting cute and trading down is how you piss around and end up with a lesser talent, and I'm sorry these guys have not shown the ability to move down and still get talent.
Every year "this qb class sucks, wait til next year" and time and time again someone becomes a guy, sometimes more than one. 2017 prime example. Nobody thought much of Herbert. Nobody thought anything of Nix. If you're waiting for your generational Elway prospect you'll be waiting a long time. Last one was Lawrence and he looks like an average qb.
Imagine going through that season, and picking a tackle at 2. I'd be furious. Tackles dont score points. Bengals passed on tackle took Chase and went to SB, addressed that position in FA. You can plug that with FA.
If Deion doesnt want his son here then that is why they are passing on QB
Stefanski has been here for 5 years and has never been able to choose his QB
It was his choice to get rid of Baker Mayfield, because they did not get along. Baker did not want to run his system, so he was out. I think whomever they draft is going to have to be someone who is comfortable with operating under center with heavy play action.
Do you really believe that he has no say in who they bring in? All I've heard for three years is that Shitpanski is the one who won over Watson with all these innovative ideas on how to use him. So.... Baker/Keenum/Mullens/Watson/Brissett/DTR/PJ/Flacco/Winston.... none of them were signed with his approval?
Drew Allar!!!!!
Trade for Joe Milton. Draft Abdul or trade down for more picks. Build the offense and defense.
I appreciate all the hard work you guys put into your show…, 42 years old and been a die hard fan my whole life…, this season was the most depressing season in the history of the franchise, expectations were very high this year!!!!!!
Why the hell would you trade back when you need a QB? If you trade back you might as well trade Myles and continue tanking
Graham, Carter, or Banks would be home runs. Stay away from either QB and travis hunter
Don't want McCown. Let's see if Stafanski can work with Kubiac. Or Dougie Peterson. Won a superbowl. Coached offense all these yrs.