Also you didn't mention parking in car parks like NCP and Q-Park which are scattered around central London and have motorcycle bays with anchors, a decent security, but at least your bike won't be on the street. I'm not sure how much it costs but it's pretty cheap, must be cheaper than £100 p/m for council garages.
Yeah good shout - definitely worth investigating. Pinned this comment. I've read mixed reviews about the NCP car parks in central London. Bikes still get nicked from there and often they're quite quiet and secluded at night. But it's all relative - depends what your other options are.
Alarmed bike with a tracker, Kryptonite New York Lock Mini through the rear wheel, alarmed disc lock through the front disc and an Almax chain through the frame to a solid object. None of those can be bolt cropped, to cut them all with an angle grinder is going to take time and set off both the bike alarm and the disc lock alarm. Yes it's heavy, a pain in the arse too, but they'll always pick an easier target.
To keep my Kymco safe I do the following: Use stainless steel (Inox) chains; Every loop in the chain should have a lock - i.e. one piece of chain through two wheels and the frame needs two different style locks; CHANGE the factory ignition lock KEY INSERT - ESPECIALLY HONDA; on electric start bikes - remove the kick start arm; insert an On / Off fuel tap in fuel line (a carburetor of fuel might get them started but not far down the road); RFID proximity detectors to kill ignition and a solenoid fuel valve; fit two ignition disablers in SERIES (one a hidden touch point and the other an RFID); fit TWO ALARMS (and make sure the wiring looks like OEM cabling). Never use vehicle battery for the alarm - a separate battery is essential. The ignition OEM switch is near worthless. I fit a slotted stainless steel (Inox) washer, welded to the lock body, that narrows the diameter of the key. A decent locksmith can grind the keyshaft. It is impossible to fit a factory key. My headlight has LED strings fitted in it (I am an electronics technician) and the strings are different colours and each string illuminates separately when parked. If the thieves don't understand something, it won't be the first choice to steal. I have all these fitted to my bike - and even more but they don't need publicity!
Thanks for an excellent video with lots of good tips. I use an ABUS Granit chain and padlock, plus an ABUS Granit alarmed disk lock on the front wheel and another on the rear wheel. One item you didn’t mention was a brake lock which goes on the throttle and locks the lever with the front brake on. Thanks again.👍
Following on from my original comment: On 23 August my bike was nicked from an underground car park (meant to have been locked but the gates were faulty), the tracker activated when the thieves cut the wiring loom and a signal came through on the tracker at 4am. At 7am the bike appeared on the tracker map and I was able to notify the police - I found the bike at 7.45, with all my locks in place on the bike and my cover over it!! It’s now in for repair at a cost of £6.5k. So the moral of this tale is to have a tracker and secure the bike to an immovable object - I have taken your advice and bought an Almax Ultimate chain and padlock to go around a structural steel column, and an Almax Series 4 to go around the bike (when I get it back). The thieves that nicked it first time will struggle to take it away again.
In the US you have to be extra mindful of popular bikes with long production runs. They tend to have openly interchangeable parts that make them easier to fence. I live in Chicago. Most street parkers use a cover (without the make/model on it) with lockable straps/chains through the wheels. Most thieves will want something much easier to move that they know they can move on the black market. A garage is obviously the first choice.
Have you heard of the Scorpio Ride alarms. It seems seems to be the most advance on the market. You get an alert whenever your alarm goes off via an app on your phone or/and the remote.
+Uche Ihecherenoma thanks Uche I'll take a look. Generally you get what you pay for with the security stuff so it's worth it if you've got a nice bike for sure!
Great vid and good advice motobib i got me a diac lock and a massive chain plus streering lock and alarm and cover im taking no chances thanks again keep the vids coming
im late to this video, but you can integrate the bike cover into your security system, the small 'rape alarm' whatever you call them can be rigged up in a way to go off if someone tries lifting the cover not knowing how to 'defuse' it..
here's my two penneth, stealth security, a few simple mods to the bike that people won't notice, a bolt in your discs or sprocket, quick brake adjusters so you could use them like a handbrake on a car, things that will confuse the vermin, a quick removable or locking gear shift and always park it in 3rd-6th, lastly an airbag under the seat which activates 20 seconds after the bike has been rolling, don't forget to switch this all off before your ride ;)!!! Hahaha, just read the comment below, simple fix is a switchable auxiliary HT lead that goes to the seat :) more ideas, drop a couple of pop rivets in between your chain links at the bottom, near the rear sprocket, remove pillion foot pegs if not used to much, cause them baffling inconvenience
I fitted a very good alarm/immobiliser but because it was not on a recognised list my insurer would not give any discount, so in that respect it was a waste of time and money! Some good ideas there though thanks. Dave
+notwocdivad yeah it’s frustrating. I use an Almax chain at home that would probably get me a discount but I can’t take it everywhere with me and use it all the time, so I decided not to list it. You just know it would get nicked on the one day you didn’t use it and it would get caught on cctv
If your going to have a metal anchor loop embedded in concrete by your house, embed both ends of a chain instead, as it's more awkward to cut through than a solid stable object.
I had my bike knicked, usually I chained it via the rear wheel to a lamp post and put a lock on the front disc, but the one day I was running late for work I didn't lock it and that was the day it disappeared....
a good disc lock is the abus one I have its decently sized and chunky and it has a built in alarm system if it moves it screams. I was given by almax a 25mm chain since their 22 was out of stock and jesus its massive I might aswell use this for a boat anchor 😂.
The best preventative measure ive used for 30 years and never had a bike stolen is if ur going to leave it any anywhere for ANY period of time is to undo the the brackets holding the handlebars on and stick em along with the allen bolts in your pocket ..bikes goin nowhere
I was going to invent a similar device where the two brackets only fit the ones on the bars which u could buy as a matching set ,but tbh no scroat is going to carry bolts n clamps and an allen key around anyway
I decided on undoing handlebars as its so simple ,extremely effective,costs fuck all and also those 120db screamer things become zero db when u place your thumb over the hole .also im working on a hidden circuit from the top of the plug to the front brake ...theres NO coming back from that one lol as long as you remember to flick the switch off
What do you think about datatool I have one on my bike the indicators blink before I start my bike, and when I turn off and remove the key, it's like you have set the alarm
i got a msx 125 grom so i can keep it in my house. im sure if i left it outside one night here it would be gone. im live in the hood in this city serious. i do finish carpentry in peoples houses in this city so i got it to get back and forth to work and to the lake mainly. since my boss has the tools in his van and i can put my small ones there. usually we set up our saws out front of the house so someone will be out there a lot checking on it and i figure the lake is a pay to get in so not a lot of randoms there but i was thinking still lock it at least around a light pole there or something. it is nice being mobile and having a motorcycle but ya they are easy to steal so its kinda stressful thinking about that. ps. how is your go pro set up on your helm what mount is it on or how did you mount it.
Hey man. Yeah you need some locks whether it's pay to get in or not. Always lock it even if it's just outside a shop for 2 minutes. The GoPro is just a regular curve mount on the chin bar of my helmet, but you need an elbow mount to get it to work the right way up. Search ebay for "gopro elbow mount" and you should find one for a few quid.
I don’t understand why people like talking with their hands while driving or riding. It’s infuriating when you are stopped waiting to turn in to a road on the right and the oncoming car waves you across but he’s just explaining something to his passenger who isn’t even looking at him
What would you recommend for a delivery driver, for most of the deliveries I do the bike remains in sight. However, sometimes I have to deliver to places where that is not possible, like most flats. At the moment I just use the steering lock, but I don't think it's really enough. I need a security device that is quick to enable/disable when I am at the delivery destination.
+GG Spikey that's a really tricky one GGS. There are some of the smaller disc locks that you just push to lock and only need the key to get them off which makes them a bit quicker to use. They're also small and light enough to fit in a pocket. They're not hard to break but better than nothing if you're only going to be a second. Something like the Oxford Titan? Wouldn't rely on it but it would slow someone down for sure
so i just saw those locks for disc brakes i have galfer brake though so its not round. so those locks just start making noise if too much movement and locking activates the alarm? and then unlocking it deactivates it? maybe i could just have it on bike activated? even it not on the brake? but ya im worried i got a 220lb grom someone can easily steal it alone probably.
MOTOBOB I recommend u that one u can equipes it as u want is quite expensive but has everything even if the fuckers is driving ur bike u can turn it off from wherever u are and also a tiny mini touch alarm will spark is a nice alarm and yes I have it is one of the best in market and no payment for service
Just do what I do. Park it in your living room with 3 German sherlards. No theft from home. I wish they would try and follow me home and come in at night. Good lucky to them.
I'm investing in a thatcham approved ground anchor and thatham approved chain to put in the garage for when the new bike arrives. The fact its double the value of my 125 has made me alot more cautious. Almax is tempting but it is pricey, especially after getting my bike haahaha
+Samuel Wicks although ground anchor sounds like a good shout, thatcham approve some pretty poor chains that can be easily cut. I'd be getting the thickest almax for a new bike like that. Totally agree tho that the cost of all this stuff is hard to soak up when you're getting a new bike, but you've got to think of it as an investment
+Samuel Wicks although ground anchor sounds like a good shout, thatcham approve some pretty poor chains that can be easily cut. I'd be getting the thickest almax for a new bike like that. Totally agree tho that the cost of all this stuff is hard to soak up when you're getting a new bike, but you've got to think of it as an investment
Oh for sure, Im not gonna skimp out by any means on a chain. Minimum spend will be £150 on a chain, If i'm buying one might aswell get one that will last and not have to buy 2 or 3 smaller, and as you said, easier to cut chains. An small investment to protect my big investment ;)
Hi mate I would recommend an almax series 3 or a pragmasis protector 16mm with Squire ss65cs lock(I use a pragmasis chain, which is really solid and they are contracted by the ministry of defence) cost was £186 including lock and shipping.
Hmmmm I haven’t watched this video back but some lanes you’re allowed in and some you’re not. I pretty much always use them when I can, but if I didn’t then perhaps I was concentrating too much on vlogging..
Hey mate. It’s Almax - it’s not a disc lock. It’s a heavy duty chain which I use to lock the bike to a lamppost. Disc lock is fine but it’s easy to lift the bike into a van unless you secure it to something solid
Also you didn't mention parking in car parks like NCP and Q-Park which are scattered around central London and have motorcycle bays with anchors, a decent security, but at least your bike won't be on the street.
I'm not sure how much it costs but it's pretty cheap, must be cheaper than £100 p/m for council garages.
Yeah good shout - definitely worth investigating. Pinned this comment. I've read mixed reviews about the NCP car parks in central London. Bikes still get nicked from there and often they're quite quiet and secluded at night. But it's all relative - depends what your other options are.
MOTO BOB have you seen the scorpio alarm srx 900 rfid i defenitely recomend it for you!!!
Alarmed bike with a tracker, Kryptonite New York Lock Mini through the rear wheel, alarmed disc lock through the front disc and an Almax chain through the frame to a solid object. None of those can be bolt cropped, to cut them all with an angle grinder is going to take time and set off both the bike alarm and the disc lock alarm.
Yes it's heavy, a pain in the arse too, but they'll always pick an easier target.
To keep my Kymco safe I do the following: Use stainless steel (Inox) chains;
Every
loop in the chain should have a lock - i.e. one piece of chain through two
wheels and the frame needs two different style locks; CHANGE the factory ignition
lock KEY INSERT - ESPECIALLY HONDA; on electric start bikes - remove the kick
start arm; insert an On / Off fuel tap in fuel line (a carburetor of fuel might get
them started but not far down the road); RFID proximity detectors to kill ignition
and a solenoid fuel valve; fit two ignition disablers in SERIES (one a hidden touch
point and the other an RFID); fit TWO ALARMS (and make sure the wiring looks like
OEM cabling). Never use vehicle battery for the alarm - a separate battery is
essential.
The ignition OEM switch is near worthless. I fit a slotted stainless steel (Inox)
washer, welded to the lock body, that narrows the diameter of the key. A decent
locksmith can grind the keyshaft. It is impossible to fit a factory key.
My headlight has LED strings fitted in it (I am an electronics technician) and
the
strings are different colours and each string illuminates separately when
parked. If the thieves don't understand something, it won't be the first choice to
steal.
I have all these fitted to my bike - and even more but they don't need publicity!
Thanks for an excellent video with lots of good tips. I use an ABUS Granit chain and padlock, plus an ABUS Granit alarmed disk lock on the front wheel and another on the rear wheel. One item you didn’t mention was a brake lock which goes on the throttle and locks the lever with the front brake on. Thanks again.👍
Following on from my original comment: On 23 August my bike was nicked from an underground car park (meant to have been locked but the gates were faulty), the tracker activated when the thieves cut the wiring loom and a signal came through on the tracker at 4am. At 7am the bike appeared on the tracker map and I was able to notify the police - I found the bike at 7.45, with all my locks in place on the bike and my cover over it!! It’s now in for repair at a cost of £6.5k. So the moral of this tale is to have a tracker and secure the bike to an immovable object - I have taken your advice and bought an Almax Ultimate chain and padlock to go around a structural steel column, and an Almax Series 4 to go around the bike (when I get it back). The thieves that nicked it first time will struggle to take it away again.
In the US you have to be extra mindful of popular bikes with long production runs. They tend to have openly interchangeable parts that make them easier to fence.
I live in Chicago. Most street parkers use a cover (without the make/model on it) with lockable straps/chains through the wheels.
Most thieves will want something much easier to move that they know they can move on the black market.
A garage is obviously the first choice.
Have you heard of the Scorpio Ride alarms. It seems seems to be the most advance on the market. You get an alert whenever your alarm goes off via an app on your phone or/and the remote.
+Uche Ihecherenoma thanks Uche I'll take a look. Generally you get what you pay for with the security stuff so it's worth it if you've got a nice bike for sure!
Great vid and good advice motobib i got me a diac lock and a massive chain plus streering lock and alarm and cover im taking no chances thanks again keep the vids coming
Cheers Mark! Hope it’s enough. Big Almax chain has served me well so far...
im late to this video, but you can integrate the bike cover into your security system, the small 'rape alarm' whatever you call them can be rigged up in a way to go off if someone tries lifting the cover not knowing how to 'defuse' it..
Thanks, this was really helpful for me as I'm a new rider in London
Glad you found it useful!
here's my two penneth, stealth security, a few simple mods to the bike that people won't notice, a bolt in your discs or sprocket, quick brake adjusters so you could use them like a handbrake on a car, things that will confuse the vermin, a quick removable or locking gear shift and always park it in 3rd-6th, lastly an airbag under the seat which activates 20 seconds after the bike has been rolling, don't forget to switch this all off before your ride ;)!!! Hahaha, just read the comment below, simple fix is a switchable auxiliary HT lead that goes to the seat :) more ideas, drop a couple of pop rivets in between your chain links at the bottom, near the rear sprocket, remove pillion foot pegs if not used to much, cause them baffling inconvenience
Sounds like wacky races! 😂
where I live, I park my bike with key in and helmet on the handlebars, its really sad to see the UK decline so much :(
You rode straight past my old house on Peckham Hill Street! 👍 Decent batch of info in there... cheers 😎
Cheers CF 🍻 Yeah I used to live just off Peckham Rye until we moved recently. Love Peckham tho!
I fitted a very good alarm/immobiliser but because it was not on a recognised list my insurer would not give any discount, so in that respect it was a waste of time and money! Some good ideas there though thanks. Dave
+notwocdivad yeah it’s frustrating. I use an Almax chain at home that would probably get me a discount but I can’t take it everywhere with me and use it all the time, so I decided not to list it. You just know it would get nicked on the one day you didn’t use it and it would get caught on cctv
Thanks for the brilliant tips pal
Use chains for boat! They are way way way cheaper than branded chains and they are also thick like 18mm
There's also throttle/brake lever locks too!
If your going to have a metal anchor loop embedded in concrete by your house, embed both ends of a chain instead, as it's more awkward to cut through than a solid stable object.
I had my bike knicked, usually I chained it via the rear wheel to a lamp post and put a lock on the front disc, but the one day I was running late for work I didn't lock it and that was the day it disappeared....
a good disc lock is the abus one I have its decently sized and chunky and it has a built in alarm system if it moves it screams. I was given by almax a 25mm chain since their 22 was out of stock and jesus its massive I might aswell use this for a boat anchor 😂.
The best preventative measure ive used for 30 years and never had a bike stolen is if ur going to leave it any anywhere for ANY period of time is to undo the the brackets holding the handlebars on and stick em along with the allen bolts in your pocket ..bikes goin nowhere
Good tip!
MOTOBOB im tellin ya lol it never fails!99.9%of dirty scroats push it away ,hardly ever use vans
I was going to invent a similar device where the two brackets only fit the ones on the bars which u could buy as a matching set ,but tbh no scroat is going to carry bolts n clamps and an allen key around anyway
I decided on undoing handlebars as its so simple ,extremely effective,costs fuck all and also those 120db screamer things become zero db when u place your thumb over the hole .also im working on a hidden circuit from the top of the plug to the front brake ...theres NO coming back from that one lol as long as you remember to flick the switch off
I also when i go away on holiday swap the front spindle for a piece of oil covered wooden dowelling ..nobody fucks with me and gets away with it lol
What do you think about datatool I have one on my bike the indicators blink before I start my bike, and when I turn off and remove the key, it's like you have set the alarm
Honestly no experience of datatool!
Andrew how is it? my new ninja 650 was just installed with a datatool is it good?
What are people paying for insurance in London? I got quoted £1200 with a £750 excess! Seems extortionate to me. New rider in London.
Great video's by the way, keep them coming
Cheers Andrew appreciate it 🍻
i got a msx 125 grom so i can keep it in my house. im sure if i left it outside one night here it would be gone. im live in the hood in this city serious. i do finish carpentry in peoples houses in this city so i got it to get back and forth to work and to the lake mainly. since my boss has the tools in his van and i can put my small ones there. usually we set up our saws out front of the house so someone will be out there a lot checking on it and i figure the lake is a pay to get in so not a lot of randoms there but i was thinking still lock it at least around a light pole there or something. it is nice being mobile and having a motorcycle but ya they are easy to steal so its kinda stressful thinking about that. ps. how is your go pro set up on your helm what mount is it on or how did you mount it.
Hey man. Yeah you need some locks whether it's pay to get in or not. Always lock it even if it's just outside a shop for 2 minutes. The GoPro is just a regular curve mount on the chin bar of my helmet, but you need an elbow mount to get it to work the right way up. Search ebay for "gopro elbow mount" and you should find one for a few quid.
I don’t understand why people like talking with their hands while driving or riding. It’s infuriating when you are stopped waiting to turn in to a road on the right and the oncoming car waves you across but he’s just explaining something to his passenger who isn’t even looking at him
What would you recommend for a delivery driver, for most of the deliveries I do the bike remains in sight. However, sometimes I have to deliver to places where that is not possible, like most flats. At the moment I just use the steering lock, but I don't think it's really enough. I need a security device that is quick to enable/disable when I am at the delivery destination.
+GG Spikey that's a really tricky one GGS. There are some of the smaller disc locks that you just push to lock and only need the key to get them off which makes them a bit quicker to use. They're also small and light enough to fit in a pocket. They're not hard to break but better than nothing if you're only going to be a second. Something like the Oxford Titan? Wouldn't rely on it but it would slow someone down for sure
so i just saw those locks for disc brakes i have galfer brake though so its not round. so those locks just start making noise if too much movement and locking activates the alarm? and then unlocking it deactivates it? maybe i could just have it on bike activated? even it not on the brake? but ya im worried i got a 220lb grom someone can easily steal it alone probably.
MOTO BOB HAVE YOU SEEN THE ALARM NAMED SCORPIO ???? Scorpio Alarm SRX-900 RFID + T23 GPS @MOTOBOB
No. Have you got one? Any good?
MOTOBOB I recommend u that one u can equipes it as u want is quite expensive but has everything even if the fuckers is driving ur bike u can turn it off from wherever u are and also a tiny mini touch alarm will spark is a nice alarm and yes I have it is one of the best in market and no payment for service
Just do what I do. Park it in your living room with 3 German sherlards. No theft from home. I wish they would try and follow me home and come in at night. Good lucky to them.
These will help my car stop being stolen :D
Haha. Get a chain and some disc locks! In all seriousness, it's pretty cheap and easy to fit a tracker to a car too :)
Nobody will even try to steal my old peugeot 406 diesel :D
c4 under the seat with remote detonation!
There's no such thing as a kawasaki r6 😂
Haha kawasaki on the brain... 🤪
Er6f I think he meant
Are you a Lancashire lad MotoBOB?
+Anthony Monteith sure am! Clitheroe born and raised. The accent has slipped over the last 10 years I've been in London though 😞
@@motobob think of all those glorious roads you're missing down there...
how to stop them from thieves steling it when you riding
Hmm I wonder how thieves push away bikes with no pillion pegs, say if you removed them from a sports bike.
I'm sure they'd find a way if they really wanted it, but if you never take a pillion then I guess there's no harm! :)
I’ve got three locks and a gps in my Vespa ...
vespa are still valuable hell your motorcycle is valuable. better safe than sorry.
its funny the way you say "nicked"
Guy on scooter tried following me but couldn’t keep up, then down a u turn
I'm investing in a thatcham approved ground anchor and thatham approved chain to put in the garage for when the new bike arrives. The fact its double the value of my 125 has made me alot more cautious. Almax is tempting but it is pricey, especially after getting my bike haahaha
+Samuel Wicks although ground anchor sounds like a good shout, thatcham approve some pretty poor chains that can be easily cut. I'd be getting the thickest almax for a new bike like that. Totally agree tho that the cost of all this stuff is hard to soak up when you're getting a new bike, but you've got to think of it as an investment
+Samuel Wicks although ground anchor sounds like a good shout, thatcham approve some pretty poor chains that can be easily cut. I'd be getting the thickest almax for a new bike like that. Totally agree tho that the cost of all this stuff is hard to soak up when you're getting a new bike, but you've got to think of it as an investment
Oh for sure, Im not gonna skimp out by any means on a chain. Minimum spend will be £150 on a chain, If i'm buying one might aswell get one that will last and not have to buy 2 or 3 smaller, and as you said, easier to cut chains. An small investment to protect my big investment ;)
Hi mate I would recommend an almax series 3 or a pragmasis protector 16mm with Squire ss65cs lock(I use a pragmasis chain, which is really solid and they are contracted by the ministry of defence) cost was £186 including lock and shipping.
Thanks alot, i'll have a good look tomorrow and make my mind up :D
Close the boarders and harder punishment, would probably help a bit :)
what jacket were you wearing?
+T Tsering goldtop cafe racer 76
Why don't you ride in the bus lanes? Motorcycles are allowed in those lanes
Hmmmm I haven’t watched this video back but some lanes you’re allowed in and some you’re not. I pretty much always use them when I can, but if I didn’t then perhaps I was concentrating too much on vlogging..
MOTOBOB fair enough mate love the content regardless
Depends on the borough. Some allow it, some dont.
Can't say I'm impressed with your riding.
take karate, good for fitness and security. I am a 3rd dan.
Dont kn9w if you know this, but most bikes are stolen while the owner isnt around
i can't find this rmax disc lock hes talking about
Hey mate. It’s Almax - it’s not a disc lock. It’s a heavy duty chain which I use to lock the bike to a lamppost. Disc lock is fine but it’s easy to lift the bike into a van unless you secure it to something solid
Or you can lock a pitbull to your front wheel :)
But don't forget to take it off when you're riding the bike.
What about reviewing the Guzzi V7III ?
he sounds like brad pitt in "snatch"
Ducati = Jew ca-i
22minutes of basic common sense zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I didn't understand nothing from your video too much blah blah with not getting nothing
Sorry to hear that zaki