A BETTER BATMAN FOREVER ( THE SCHUMACHER CUT )
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2022
- Batman Forever was released in 1995 , who would have thought all this time later in 2022 that we could possibly see some new developments?
Many scenes were left on the cutting room floor---- taking out plot points, plots, and character screen time.
It just so happens that there might be an extended cut on the way on HBO Max.
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It’s those deleted scenes we have been shown that really shows that Joel Schumacher could have made a more mature Batman film then what was in the final film. A lot of the elements you see at play in the deleted scenes are some stuff we saw in his other film that made him a good candidate to be a Batman director with The Lost Boys.
I've seen some of those deleted scenes, and I was very impressed. Even without a musical score - which I presume, or at least hope, was written - the scene of Bruce's "vision quest" in the cave, where he finds his father's diary and encounters the giant bat that inspired him to become Batman, is one of the most powerful I have seen in a superhero film.
Batman Forever as is is still my fave Bat flick.
Would still like to see an alternate cut, though.
@@gregelchert752 I think he was hurt by some of the criticism of his Batman movies' aesthetics. It's how I rationalize some of his aesthetic choices in _Phantom of the Opera_
Almost all of them short of the softening of the title character's deformity feel like he was nervous about going back to that colorful well again.
I would love for WB to make a Schumacher Cut of both Batman: Forever and Batman and Robin so that they can pay homage to the late great director, Joel Schumacher.
I don't think there is a Schumacher Cut for Batman & Robin.
As far as i know B&F was basically made by the executives to just sell toys, he didn't tried to make it a serious movie that got derrailed in the editing room
Look up "Batman Unchained".
I think it's only a script, but it was to be Schumacher's Batman opus!
The footage is probably trashed and/or lost after almost 30 years.
@SchumacherCut 👍
To be fair to Schumacher, he did want to include darker elements, and even elements from Batman: Year One, but WB at the time told him what he could and couldn’t do, and he had to make do with that.
I’ve always known that there was an awesome adaptation of Batman in Schumacher’s first movie.
This is a director’s worth fighting for.
The scene of Two-Face's evasion is pretty unnerving, especially the first time you watch it. Arkham Asylum looks fantastic, and the Tim Burton-looking doctor is rad.
"Hell of a night outside, doc"
"Hell is here..."
Mister Dent? Counselor? .... *Harvey?!* ... _Two-Face...?_
I'm noticing a trend, when a director has full control of the narrative and story arch (with good dialog). Its a better movie 90% of the time! Big shocker there.
One interesting thing from the original script featured Bruce mentioning to Alfred that that he killed Jack Napier and ever since his parents died, he became violent and mad to the world, and even after he killed him, he felt it wasn't enough to venge his parents and admits he regrets killing him because he is stuck in a dark place he could never forgive himself. And later on when Batman tries to find Riddler, he runs into a hall of mirror as Riddler voice comes out of speakers about how he is a killer like him and Harvey, "just try to ask these guys" with the mirrors showing Joker, Penguin and Catwoman in each mirror to make him feel guilty and make him loose his grip.
I agree this one is so underrated
After watching your videos on it, I recently rewatched Batman Forever and... it was better than I remembered it. I cringed at some of it (the villains, the "anatomically erotic" costumes, etc) but the character stuff with Bruce was legitimately good and having more of it would make the film even better. It's a shame Schumacher never got to see his version of the movie appreciated by the general audience, but it's never too late to make that version available to said audience. And overall, I feel like Schumacher may be one of the most underappreciated flmmakers of the 90s, remembered for Batman and Robin when he should be remembered for the masterpiece that is Falling Down.
Forever was always my favorite of the Burton and Schumacher movies. It’s the only one of the four that’s actually about Bruce and gives him a character arc. Joel made some good movies in his time, so I’m glad that over the years it’s been shown that there was fair amount of good stuff there that just was unfortunately buried.
Vee this is one of my all time favorites and would love a Schumacher cut.
"Batman: Unchained" has been a legend since the late 90's, for me anyway.
Schumacher's original vision and film would've been fucking AWESOME!
And this whole thing is proof positive that WB/DC has been fucking with Batman directors since AT LEAST the mid 90's, because they want to reach that all important "little kid" demographic... which has historically made WB/DC no money.
Marvel has the kiddie market cornered, unfortunately.
Their cookie cutter, saccharine safe kid flicks are just too powerful a juggernaut to be competed with... SO PLEASE, WB... PLEASE DC... STOP TRYING!
Do your own thing... your characters are mature, dealing with mature subject matter, and they always have been. Even the DCAU dealt with subject matter FAR more mature than the *supposed* audience they were going for... and THAT has arguably been their biggest success.
Except Warner's real problem isn't just worrying about merchandise. It's being extreme in reaction. Forever and more B&R was them going over reaction mode after Returns pissed off the proto-Karens and McDonald's. Nolan and later Reeves is Warner being once more overreacting as a result of B&R.
The only time Warner were hands off was the Chris Reeve Superman movies where all they could do is simply allow the production company do their thing and sign off on what they approve of. It's all about balance....and also respecting the source material; something the studio hasn't been doing well on even more so the last 9 years
Marvel's moon knight , dsredevil and punisher?
@@SuperWolsey That's primarily because, when SUPERMAN came out in 1978, big-budget movie promotions by fast-food restaurants were still about a decade away; even McDonald's Happy Meals didn't exist yet. When Taco Bell promoted Tim Burton's BATMAN in the summer of '89, it not only put them on the map but accelerated a marketing trend that, while it had already started, hadn't quite taken off yet.
As much as I love BATMAN RETURNS, however, I think Warners made the right decision - fiscally, if not necessarily creatively. BATMAN FOREVER was very popular at the time and succeeded at the box office more than RETURNS did.
I'm hoping BATMAN: UNCHAINED can still be made some day, perhaps as an animated film so that, even in his seventies, Michael Keaton can reprise the role. Heck, I say, why not remake the entire series as animated films? Disney has been doing live-action remakes, but I think they've gone in the wrong direction.
Tim Burton's BATMAN is a terrific movie, but I think its characterization of the Joker was flawed. And BATMAN RETURNS had a very intriguing plot, but proceeded to waste it. Channel Awesome's "FanScription" crafted an alternate version of BATMAN RETURNS that features Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent, and I think it is much better than what we got. And I can think of so much more that could be done!
@@SeasideDetective2 we always have the Batman '89 comic mini-series that serves as a legit Batman 3
Has anyone ever spliced the deleted scenes into the movie and put it out for download? Would love to see that!
Yeah it's called the Redbook edit or dition. Its fanmade and has some of the deleted scenes, recoloured to remove some of the neon and has its score replaced
Or if you want a darker version of batman forever, there's always the comic book adaptation.
@@corneliusthatch7654 I think that is another fan edit.
The original Red Book Cut didnt alter the OST or the neon, because that was Schumaher's vision.
The Red Book Cut just added the deleted scenes, and deleted some of the really dumb ones (like the Riddler doing...whatever he was doing when he blew up the Batcave).
If I remember correctly, it was shown to Joel, and he aproved it.
@@corneliusthatch7654 where can I find it
@@Marcissus no idea, even I can't find it anywhere. I've seen some people that have it downloaded and comment on Schumacher cut videos giving download links, but I wouldn't click on them if I were you.
This movie and The Crow: City of Angels have a lot in common when it comes to having a ton of pivotal footage being removed (both their respective soundtracks even had PJ Harvey songs attached). I'd say that the Batman Forever cut we currently have turned out much better than The Crow: City of Angels cuts we currently have (the Miramax/Dimension Pictures distributed a version they referred to as a "director's cut", which the director, Tim Pope, had absolutely nothing to do with). It's a shame what the Weinsteins did to City of Angels and I hope we get to see Tim Pope's true vision someday (as the script, written by David S. Goyer, may be the best he's ever written for a comic movie). Hopefully these mid-90s movies can get their due someday. If you couldn't tell, Vee, I'd love to hear your thoughts on The Crow: City of Angels, as it's quite the rabbit-hole to venture down (the IMDb deleted scenes page may be the longest I've ever seen for a movie).
Batman Forever is a classic. I love this movie. Val Kilmer was a perfect Batman/Bruce Wayne. Nicole Kidman was stunning, she’s leaps and bounds better than most female co-stars nowadays. Alfred was perfect. Seeing my Hero Jim Carrey as a Riddler was phenomenal. Especially, letting him he Jim Carrey. I feel like now he would feel the need to “gO DaRkEr” for social stimulation of his commitment to the project. Seeing Tommy Lee Jones having fun playing a character straight from the comics/animated series was so fucking cool. Growing into loving Chris O’Donnell as Robin for saving Batman from his demise in those tons of sand after escaping the fire was soo cool.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention Vee.
Me and my teacher are huge comic fans and Batman is his favorite hero of all time. He loves Batman Forever with a passion but hates Jones' performance and the lack of sensibility within Bruce. If this cut were to come out, it would fix the latter problem. Imma send him this video and reply with his response.
Commenting so I get a notification of your teacher's response
He resonded to my email. Here it is copy and pasted.
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Heya Julian. Thank you for sending me this video. I watched some of his other videos, to get a perspective of where he stands within the DCEU (Comic and Movie-wise) and I have to say he is very critical. I either agree 100% or 0% due to his aggressiveness. Putting that aside, I had seen the interview a while back when Joel was alive, and thought nothing of it (that being the mention of a director's cut.) After looking at this video and some of Screen Rant's information on these deleted scenes, I believe the DC cut should be released. The beginning shot of Harvey breaking out of Arkham already sets a darker tone for the movie, despite how campy it is. I also read that Nygma was supposed to go through somewhat of a “training phase” like Cory Smith’s Riddler in Gotham. Wanting to be more like Bruce Wayne while also despising him. Fighting these two inner demons would also give him more connection with Two-Face. Just like Vee said “They’re the same currency, just two different sides of the coin”. The ending was also supposed to be completely different, adding on to the fact that B&R wasn’t supposed to be a cash grab. Last thing I want to mention was how Bruce had a need for responsibility for Dick because HE caused his parents death. Where Vee is wrong however, is Batman killing Penguin. These are different universes, Burton’s and Schumacher’s.
Thank you for sending me this video and the recommendation for Batman B&W. Enjoy your weekend break and we’ll watch the Batman when we come back 😉
@@Reddison He is just wrong about other universes. Schumacher did exactly the third film, and the fact that this sequel just plays a big role in the director's version. He works with the fact that this Batman killed villains. Gotham remembers it, Bruce himself remembers it. This is literally the beginning of his arc in this film. Bruce wants to be better, to protect Dick from these mistakes, but he is constantly reminded of them.
Ey vee I forgot bout this channel , glad I remembered, you always putting out fun stuff
Even though the deleted scenes might be good, I don't think my opinion would change on either of the films
Yeah, you would still have all the goofier stuff in it. The tonal shifts would be much much worse.
Definitely would love to see it and Chris O'Donnell go from Robin to Nightwing even tho we got a glimpse of that in the last movie with the costume
Having watched a lot of the deleted scenes, I do think Forever was a missed opportunity for Warner Bros. It could have been the great third act in the Batman series. Val Kilmer was a great choice to play the Dark Knight. I especially love the scene where he’s in the cave where he fell, and the red book is turned to Thomas Wayne’s last entry, saying that Bruce’s mother had her heart set on the particular theatre show that eventually got them killed, so the show that Bruce wanted to watch would have to wait. Bruce gets some tearful closure in that moment, as he realizes his parents’ death was not his fault. Suddenly, the giant bat appears, and Bruce, standing face to face with it, is rejuvenated enough to rise, as Bruce Wayne AND Batman. Though not because he has to be, but now…because he chooses to be. #becauseimbatman
The 90s Batman movies were screwed over bad after Batman Returns
I just thought about this. They wanted a more light hearted Batman movie and they picked Schumacher, and his last 3 previous movies were:
•St. Elmo's Fire
•The Lost Boys
•Falling Down
The fuck?
I heard with the flashback scene with the deaths of Thomas and Martha Wayne they kept the "have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light?" part in the novelization.
Batman Forever was the first ever movie I watched in a theater when I was child. If the Schumacher cut does happen and if its released in theaters I'll go to see it.
Very well made video, awesome work.
I was 12 when it was released. My first theatrical Batman movie. I love it. I’ll take it with all of its cheese. There’s always been a deeper movie in it for me and go back to revisit it time and time again.
I've always held Falling Down as a near perfect film. The bait and switch in it is brilliant. So I'm not surprised that Joel Schumacher would do a very good Batman. You could tell in his interviews that he was less than enthused about having to do a kid friendly movie.
Thank you for this. Lot of people Hate this movie. My first Batman movie I saw on the big screen as a child. I have soft spot for this. Val Kilmer is underrated Bruce Wayne/Batman. Keaton always be darker Batman but Kilmer is one of my favourite and gets too much hate. #releasetheschumachercut
so you're telling me that people complained that DC movies were getting too dark so they made a much more colourful, livelier movie that got bad reviews, but apparently a better cut exists? I've seen this before...
Yeah I know that's the problem, people gone soft for some reason they need to go a backbone.
DC/WB: "We swear a better cut exists!"
Us: "Ok release it then."
DC/WB: *Takes old footage and some reshoots* "Here you go just what you asked for!"
US: "Wow!"
Director: "Not what I planned but close enough."
I got the Comic book adaptation after watching the movie and several of the deleted scenes were in the comic, i was confused because i didn't remember certain scenes showing up in what i had watched
This movie was my introduction to batman. the darker elements around his parents and trauma strangely spoke to me as a 6 year old kid. Had the deleted scenes and storylines made it in, this would've been perfect, absolutely perfect. Ive always thougth val was the perfect live action batman. his over all look, demeanor, the voice of the two characters....am i being subjective? BIG time. But, again as my first batman-related anything i cant describe the impact it had.
I just rewatched this for the first time since I was like 5 years old mate. I'm 24 now so it was all new to me. I honestly really did love it a lot. I'd say I've enjoyed every batman movie alot except batman and Robin and son of batman. Great vid btw
Personally loved it as kid.. but through time sorta diminished that opinion to more corny... Up until I became an adult and I actually love and enjoy it again
Release the Schumacher Cut of Batman & Robin
Please make this happen, Warner Bros
But please, also keep the dumb jokes. The Digital Workprint including the deleted scenes feels a bit too dry without them
The "Batman aaa" is memey
The "women" actually seems like a silly but believable Forever moment
"Y'know... holey"? Mwah
This post needs to be up-voted. Helped me find the cut online
you mean virtual workprint?
@1:43 Everyone blame Danny for Batman and Robin. Up yours, Danny!
Me when i hear "It was a total atack on kids": "BOO THIS MAN!"
Under rated channel.
the original idea was to be like batman year one which would be 1000x better but wb was so worried about the film being too dark but batman is a dark character from the comics. wb really dropped the ball back in 1995.
finally people are talking about this
If WB wasn't so arrogant, they should realize they could be making a heck of a lot more money if they invest in all these Director's Cuts.
I mean so far they've done Superman 2 The Richard Donner Cut which took Decades to come out.
And recently the Snyder Cut of Justice League.
Like come on WB, Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad, lets go.
And now the Joel Schumacher Cut of Batman Forever, let's make these happen!
Fun fact before Val Kilmer replaced Michael Keaton the cuts we see were made for keaton and originally gonna be called BATMAN 3 but when DC wanted to go a friendly route after McDonalds got involed that's what made him left the project even the priginal writers said they used Keaton voice in mind, Maron Waynes as Robin and Robin Williams for the Riddler if u read there draft this movie also took inspriation from Batman Ego base off Bruce/Batman duality
I love Batman Forever!!!!
Joygasm.
I love your vids Vee. And this is a great one. But I gotta ask, did you say "much to the sheer grin"?
You should try to find Batman forever the red box edit it is a fan edit and somewhat old it adds most of the deleted scenes back in if I'm not mistaken
Is there a cut that can make Batman and Robin better?
Definitely not. That movie was made primarily to be a toy commercial... and Joel had wisened up to it by that point.
Nothing will make Batman Forever better
The Virtual Workprint Fanedit that's floating around is great.
"I killed them". He was referring to Robin's Parents. The novelization by Michael Jan Friedman perfectly explains it. He said it because ,in the novel. When twoface took over the circus. Bruce did everything to save dicks Parents
He tried to reveal his identity, but in vain. He fought off the thugs in a tux, which could have exposed him to the masses.
THE BEST PART- Lastly he grabbed a machine gun from a thug, and was willing to kill twoface before 2face shot the wires. Unfortunately the flashback played in his head, and he was distracted moments before he was seriously going to pull the trigger and violate his code. A thug knocks him down. Bruce relates this event to him choosing the movie that got his parents killed. He feels responsible for both
Val Kilmer was always my favorite Batman and now seeing this it almost pisses me off to see how potentially amazing this movie could have been. Overall, I still like this movie. The only thing I absolutely HATE is the Two Face character. Tommy Lee Jones is a fantastic actor, but he played it way over the top to where it's almost cringe worthy. Jim Carrey was over the top, but it worked because that's just what he does and he plays that intelligent comedic psychopath perfectly. If they would have taken Two Face out and killed the Grayson's in some other way and added more of this psychological element as you mentioned this movie could have been truly great.
Btw, I may be a little slow on the uptake, but I just realized that all the Batman movies are simply about mental health issues and how every case is different. Batman, Robin, and all the villains seem to deal with some certain mental illness or condition (think about it 🤔) I guess that's why Arkham Asylum is so prominent in Gotham. 😅
I hope WB do a release cut
Me and my great grandad would always watch these old Batman when I was little
People have been asking for the DC on this film since at least the late 90s. We were lucky they included some of the cut scenes on the 2005 dvd release.
Nice
I'd like to see that.
Forever is amazing
It's funny you made this video when you did. Literally just yesterday I was thinking, what if WB made Batman Forever better.
Although I was thinking almost remake the entire movie, keep the Val Kilmer Batman/Bruce Wayne stuff and Robin stuff. Then use green screen or something to replace Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face and Jim Carey's Riddler with better acted versions, maybe de-age Billy Dee Williams and get him back in the role.
This practice happened in some recent movies where an actor would quit or get fired and they just green screened over them with a new actor in the role. Perfect, just do it for Batman Forever.
Bro u posted this at the perfect fucking time
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@@VI_V2 been addicted to your videos lately and really needed a new Batman video to watch while I smoked and when I opened RUclips your video was the first that popped up. So perfect timing man, keep up the great work!
@@zzoidberg2908 just saw this today after work
I have hopes we have darker cut on hbo max
You know, it's funny you call yourself my "least favorite youtuber" cause at first I didn't catch much of your content. But as time has gone on and other creators have faded for me I'm still coming back to this channel. Keep doing what you do Vee! -Your "Least favorite subscriber" 😈
Apparently Two-Face survives at the end of the Schumacher Cut (according to the script and some alleged photos of Two-Face back in Arkham.)
And seeing his suit in B&R (intentional Easter egg aside) more or less confirms this
was the kid that played Bruce Wayne the same kid that was in the Pearl Jam video Jeremy.I remember as a kid seeing the penguin biting that guys nose , it would of been funny if Danny Devitto started flapping his arms like a bird .
Let’s be honest someone definitely told that kid at 1:42 to say that
No shit, Sherlock 🤦
@@lucasoheyze4597 Ight 😂
What always bugged me with Forever was the fact that we never got why Batman is "Forever" and it seems the Schumacher Cut of Forever has that answer.
I am very interested to see it
For those curious, there's a fan cut called "Red Book Edition", from the deleted scenes involving a book Bruce reads in said scenes. It's the most well-known fan-cut of Batman Forever to my knowledge, and it's easily found with a google search.
Personally, having seen both cuts, I do think that the fan edit is better structurally. The original film is a good balance imo of B&R's pure camp, and Tim Burton's character-driven story-telling, but you can feel some of that cut content if you watch both. I would definitely love to see a restored "Schumacher Edition", mostly just to put that footage out in HD. It's still not a great movie, but there was clearly an attempt by Joel to merge his style with Burton's in those missing scenes, something he seemed to abandon by B&R.
Where is this fan cut?
Shear grin 😂
We're going to start getting calls for a Schumacher cut now, aren't we? 🦇 EDIT: just got to 7:28. That answers that question!
Loving this take and very excited but did you just say 'sheer grin' instead of 'chagrine?'
Pretty sure I just watch these videos for the cameos at the end
2 questions:
Did you ever get those mcdonalds batman mugs?
Did you ever see the live show?
1) Yes--- all of em. Still have them actually lol.
2) what live show?
@@VI_V2 got to buy those mugs now
@@VI_V2 1.nice! Same here.
2. I'm not sure if it was at all six flags theme parks, or just the one I went to(astroworld), but there was a live batman forever show that would perform there. They had the batboat that would come out and splash water on you if you sat close enough. I think there is a VERY grainy video of it on here on RUclips.
@@VI_V2 crap. My bad. It was a batman returns liver water stunt show. It's on a youtube channel name Kenny Ryman. I could've sworn I remember 2 face and the riddler and Robin in the show though.
@@VI_V2 CORRECTION: there was a batman forever stunt show. I just found the commercial for it. Sorry for all the replies.
Batman Forever Is My Favourite Batman Movie Ever It Is Gothic It Is Psycho It Is Dramatic It Is Incredible Story It Has Very Beautiful Romance It Has One Amazing Robin My Favourite Robin Ever It Has My Favourite Alfred Ever It Has One Amazing Bruce Wayne And One Incredible Batcave And Batmobile What More To Ask? It Is Also Very Beautiful Directed And It Has The Name "Tim Burton" In It Which For Me Means A Lot It Is So Damn Incredible Movie With One Of The Best Soundtracks Ever And Tim Burton's Batman And Batman Returns Is Two Of My Favourite Batman Movies Ever But Really I Can't Choose Between Them 🔥
In 2020, after Schumaher passed away, Warner openly stated they would like to release his cut of the movie, but they lost all the footage in those 25 years since the release of the theatrical cut.
It is a shame, Joel is not around anymore, and Val is going through some hard health issues, and a new cut that could redeem this movie (which I think even in its theatrical cut is still pretty good) just cant be made.
Also, we should stop pretending Returns was "dark and mature"...it was goofy and pretty dumb, some blood and a woman in tight leather dont make a movie "dark and mature".
It is dark, but nothing Burton makes is mature, it's why I love his movies - they all had that dark fairytale feel, even the Batman ones.
And they wasted the last 6 years pandering to Zack Snyder's fan base treat BVS and the original JL as if they were Watchmen
Finally. Someone else that enjoys Batman Forever.
RIP Joel Schumacher
if they do release a directors cut they should remove the bat nips and improve some of the effects, I also think they could make Tommy lee jones look more scary with some cgi ? like what they did with two face in the dark knight ? or just change the colour ?
Batman Forever isn't even that bad it's so underrated
I would be more thrilled if they remade both Batman Forever and Batman & Robin with Michael Keaton and Joseph Leonard Gordon-Levitt, even if the director is Joel Schumacher
Honestly I think the original version looked amazing
Batman Forever is not the best, but it's not bad either. I put in the same category of Green Lantern, Suicide Squad 2016, Justice League 2017 and Birds of Prey movies. There are good elements, but missed opportunities. In the case of Batman Forever, one good element is that it was truly the first Batman movie to delve into Bruce's mind. Not saying that Batman and Batman Returns hasn't Bruce facing struggles, but both movies are more focused on its villains, while in Forever there is a focus on Bruce. And when I watched the deleted scenes, while it wouldn't make the movie the best, it would've improved a lot.
if only warner bros knew how darkness is normal now
#releasetheschumachercut
I'm curious, why does the disclaimer at the start of every video say "so suck it, Hannibal"?
Is there really any "duality" to Tommy Lee Jones' portrayal of Two Face? He's just a screaming maniac the entire film.
I love Batman Forever too. Its certainly not perfect. It's no masterpiece. But it's still a lot of fun. And I dont care what anyone says about Jim Carrey as The Riddler. He is perfectly cast as the egomaniacal genius. Just look at Sonic.
I can't wait to see the Schumacher cut
I have never seen Batman Forever but I have seen Batman and Robin and enjoyed it when I was younger despite how bad they were I wish i saw this instead because I bet even the final version is better than the bad p*rno that was Batman and Robin
Look, I don’t love BvS or anything, but that Martha thing gets way too much hate, and actually makes perfect sense. Batman doesn’t see Superman as a person, only a threat. Superman does know about Batman’s family, and a convenient coincidence. In that moment, Clark was gonna die, and he uses the only thing he has left, an appeal to Bruce’s humanity, one that would resonate loudly in Bruce’s mind. It humanized him, and Bruce was finally willing to listen. Is it like the epic, come to jesus moment they want it to be? No, but it makes sense.
So many movies that could have another cut ffs. Sam raimi Spidey 3, cursed , this, goddamn man
Should Batman feel all that much guilt about killing? Not TOO much, I'd declare. Yes, he did blow up an entire chemical factory full of henchmen and place a rapidly ticking bomb on another crook, but the rest? Not all that heinous, in my opinion. For starters, I would NEVER apologize for killing the Joker. The way I see it, Jack Napier was not human, but the equivalent of a man-eating tiger that had to be shot so everyone else in the jungle village would be safe. And how is Batman directly to blame for what happened to the Penguin? He couldn't have known for sure that Oswald would panic and crash backward through that window.
Question Do You get Copyrighted for uploading clips of a movie and do you get Copyrighted for edited/Fan Made Versions of The Clip from a Movie
please do the dark knight returns
Cod peices are nothing compared to the bat-nipples and jiggly bat-ass in Batman and Robin.
Just got DC universe what’s a good place to start with some batman comics?
Whenever I see Val Kilmer at that age I think of the movie Heat
What if you are my only youtuber. making you my favorite aswell.
On top of putting in deleted scenes imagine deepfaking Michael Keaton and maybe even BDW to keep things consistent 😲
is the outro necessary?
Wake me up when there's a cut with Michael Jackson as Riddler
I really don’t like the cave scene where he comes out and say’s “I’m Batman” so confidently after facing the bat. It feels so false after his depressive uncertainty about who he is. Whilst a Schumacher cut would be great to see I can see why they aren’t releasing. The answer being because there’s not a lot of new content added to it. Making the theory that Schumacher cut is so much darker and better actually good marketing for the main film itself. Also I personally wouldn’t like to explore Bruce Wayne’s past more. The series centres around Batman, meaning development and origins can be done for any of the films. Why do it in the third instalment of a franchise? I personally like this film in a guilty way. It’s not grounded it’s slapstick. It’s comedic but I can get behind that. I don’t watch the Schumacher films the same way I watch the Nolan films. The villains are the centre piece of the story because the story itself is comedic. Bruce Wayne can’t be comedic. He’s lived a traumatic life and still retains his morals to become brooding. Whether you take someone like the riddler. He’s a psycho. That hyped up comedic energy makes jim Carey so enjoyable to watch but also in some scene unpredictably creepy. I still find it funny that Tommy lee jones and Jim Carey didn’t like each other despite the fact that their duo and constant bouncing back is my favourite part of the film. So a Schumacher cut yeah would be good if it was released but I wouldn’t want a darker Batman forever. I love for the film for it’s comedy
Batman forever is great it's watchable on the merits of Jim carry, Tommy Lee Jones and even Val Kilmer- underrated as batman, the worste part is the Robin arch it's just a mess
Batman&Robin is damn near unforgivable but it's so bad it's good to me
Batman forever could have been better if WB would have let Joel do his thing but they got too invold
Honestly, after Micheal Keaton it was Val Kilmer who was perfect Batman