Growing Threat | Precon Upgrade Guide | Phyrexians | Cut-Rate Commander | Commander | MTG | EDH
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Cut-Rate Commander - Precon Upgrade Guide for Growing Threat & Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos from March of the Machine #mtg #commander #edh #mtgmom #mtgmachine
It appears that Brimaz has been reborn as Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos upon his compleation at the hands of the Invading Phyrexian forces in March of the Machine and is now leading his newly converted people into battle against the last remaining bastion of Meletis on Theros for the glory of New Phyrexia!
In this precon upgrade, we'll be primarily focused on rebalancing the deck (which is quite disjointed out of the box between its Phyrexian/Artifact creature themes) into a pure Phyrexian Tribal build with a counter subtheme to better take advantage of the Phyrexian on death proliferate that our commander provides. So of course, we'll be cutting nearly all the non-phyrexian artifact creatures in the core build and adding in more Phyrexian sources of incubator tokens to build up our board further, Phyexian counter generators (+1/+1, Oil, charge) and distributers (poison) to set the groundwork for our commanders proliferate, and Phyrexian Mite Token generators to use as sac fodder/death triggers and/or distribute even more poison for Brimaz to multiply - until our incubators grow too large for our opponents to deal with or they instead succumb to the poison (counters) in their veins - whatever comes first.
Let me know if the comments below if you agree with my choices and/or what you would add to the deck instead. Also, let me know know who you would like to see next by voting on in the comments on the three choices of commander listed at the end of the video.
Decklist - www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5547...
All art used is copyright of Wizards of the Coast
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Introduction
01:16 - Commander & Playstyle
06:17 - Keepers
12:22 - Upgrades
22:23 - Breakdown
26:18 - Closing Thoughts 
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Hey folks! Below are all the upgrades that I made to the deck for ease of access! Also, be sure to let me know in the comments if you agreed with my choices, what cards you feel should have been included, and what commanders from March of the Machine you want to see me cover in the future!
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Creatures
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Myr Battlesphere >>> Essence of Orthodoxy
Angel of the Ruins >>> Progenitor Exarch
Ancient Stone Idol >>> Norn's Inquisitor
Noxious Gearhulk >>> Stronghold Assassin
Meteor Golem >>> Skinrender
Duplicant >>> Carnifex Demon
Shimmer Myr >>> Attentive Skywarden
Scrap Trawler >>> Grafted Butcher
Cataclysmic Gearhulk >>> Terror of Towashi
Blade Splicer >>> Mite Overseer
Master Splicer >>> Ria Ivor, Bane of Bladehold
Phyrexian Gargantua >>> Basilica Shepherd
Moira and Teshar >>> Aron, Benalia's Ruin
Psychosis Crawler >>> Ichor Rats
Shattered Angel >>> Norn's Choirmaster
First-Sphere Gargantua >>> Defiler of Faith
Phyrexian Ghoul >>> Flesh-Eater Imp
Phyrexian Triniform >>> Bloated Processor
Graveshifter >>> Benalish Sleeper
Scytheclaw >>> Myr Convert
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Instants
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Utter End >>> Vraska's Fall
Ambition’s Cost >>> Village Rites
Sculpting Steel >>> Corrupted Conviction
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Sorceries
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Phyrexian Rebirth >>> White Sun's Twilight
Coveted Jewel >>> Infectious Inquiry
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Enchantments
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Phyrexian Scriptures >>> Etchings of the Chosen
Victimize >>> Norn's Decree
Yawgmoth’s Vile Offering >>> Skrelv's Hive
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Artifacts
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Ichor Elixir >>> Everflowing Chalice
Hedron Archive >>> Astral Cornucopia
Fractured Powerstone >>> Tablet of Compleation
Commander’s Sphere >>> Staff of Compleation
Go for the Throat >>> Contagion Clasp
Path of the Schemer >>> Throne of Geth
Nettlecyst >>> Weatherlight Completed
Spire of Industry >>> Norn's Wellspring
Orzhov Locket >>> Skullclamp
Swamp >>> Vat of Rebirth
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Battle
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Mortify >>> Invasion of New Capenna
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Lands
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Goldmire Bridge >>> Myriad Landscape
Exotic Orchard >>> Mirrex
The seedcore is also an excellent include in a land slot and (as of right now) would bring you to exactly $75. Excellent video and I can’t wait to see the results of the giveaway!
Is there a list of just the stuff you added to the deck?
Boy did this deck garner some attention the other game day! Eventually lost, but ended up being the archenemy and crumbled like an old cookie under the pressure :) Great game play and a few surprises at hand during play
This deck is pretty sick. I'm always amazed how you can find these cards AND maintain a decent budget as well. Great work, as usual!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Man oh man, I love the way you show how to make your deck synergistic, as well as further upgrades at the end for that player trying to go the extra mile. Please make more videos, you have my sub.
So far I’ve played two public matches with him and won both, first with infect second with damage, he’s been a blast to play with
Your videos have 1 annoying factor as far as i am concerned, in that i want to build all these decks
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie 😅
This is why I have a brand new Myrs deck. I'm not sad
Hey, at least they're all budget!
Facts
Ha was reading this about to be triggered! But now….I agree lol
I know that each upgrade is not a one deck fits all kind of idea, but I feel you did a great job with the suggestions and even at the end showed there are even more expensive upgrades for the deck.
First video I watched of your content, will be returning for more, thanks for the insight on phyrexian Tribal and sac Tribal.
Another awesome video! You are by far one of the most consistent creators on here when it comes to your quality!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words!
This video changed my whole direction of my deck build
Great deck tech, a radical change that places the deck more in line with it's promised goal. We've had many artifact decks, but never a Phyrexian tribal deck.
Good luck with Kalsa and the Convoke deck, I have heard from multiple sources that it's a tricky upgrade. I greatly look forward to seeing what you can come up with.
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the build!
I'm currently working on Divine Convocation now and, let me tell you, in testing the build I ended up with got to do some pretty crazy stuff! Hopefully you'll all enjoy it when it drops!
Vraan, Executioner Thane is also pretty good in this deck since one of our creatures dies almost every turn it can give us some consistent life gain while also slightly draining our opponents
Something that I’ve been doing is making it so you can recast some your creatures by returning them to your hand, so I’m running Erratic Portal (4 cost artifact with 1 tap; return target creature to its owners hand unless controller pays 1) and also though not too important Wall of Junk (2 cost 0/7 creature with defender with When this creature blocks, return it to your hand at the end of combat). There’s also Cloudstone Curio which I haven’t totally decided if I want yet but it is likely. Also Phyrexian reclamation is good for revival. Also, though a little iffy and expensive, Sigarda’s summon can make all your Incubator token creatures into giant flyers.
Bit by bit, the pieces fit, The Phyrexian Machine advaaaaances~! Props to anyone who gets the reference. That said, amazing upgrade as always! Side note, for the Convoke build we will soon see, you could make the thumbnail a multilayered pun with a simple sentence - "Sliiiide to the Right!".
Day 612 of waiting for the face reveal. Man... I did kinda become the local waiting man, huh? Ah well, it gives me a reason to keep up with you and Vetrom. All thanks to one Payne 96. Who would have thought.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it Comrade!
Nothing wrong with waiting - though it may be some time before anyone gets to see this mug of mine!
And I'm afraid the pun has gone over my head through - care to elaborate?
@@GrazzetMTG basically, through Convoke, you keep tapping (sliding them slightly to the right as a result). Then you attack, tapping your armies again. AND it's a reference to a song whose name I can't remember right now - Google should be able to help with ease.
one of the best guide creators. thanks for this!
Thanks for the kind words and hope you enjoyed it!
This is a great deck! Can't wait to upgrade mine... I was hesitant to include Phyrexian Vindicator and Phyrexian Obliterator with the current mana base, but I think you managed it perfectly!
I mean, to be fair, those 2 in particular are STILL very hard to cast - so there may be instances where they are dead in you hand (particularly in the early game). That said, if you going to be upgrades the build already, swapping our come basics for shock lands, check lands, and pain lands are going to make that a lot less of a problem while also improving the builds consistency overall as well.
Just wanted to let you know. I really liked this upgrade guide. Seems like you have a great understanding of the game and good ways to improve pre cons.
Glad to hear you liked it and thank you kindly for the kind words!
Dude this sick as!
Just placed an order for the upgrades and price tag is the cherry on top, just made the budget lol
Nice job man, subscribed 😎
Welcome to the channel! And I hope the build works well for you!
Great Video ! One of the best upgrade videos for this deck!
Glad you think so!
Just the video I was looking for, liked and subbed!
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks man! This upgrade advise is great!
Happy to hear that you found it useful!
I love your videos i love the lore around each commander
and I built some of those decks for my play group
You are doing a great job and
Your work let us have so much fun as far as France
Thank you
Glad to hear you're enjoying the builds from across the pond and thank you for the kind words!
Much like the knights precon, Cover of Darkness is also an upgrade to look at. Phyrexians only being blocked by their own kind is greatly effective evasion, whether it is a large scuttle of mites rushing to bite or the larger members causing noises with various limbs to disorientate opponents.
Good suggestion! The ability to give tribal AOE evasion is always a powerful tool to have access to in a attack focused build - particularly to enable alpha strikes against opponents after we've brought our incubator tokens online! That $40+ price though is a bit steep.... Hopefully it gets a reprint at some point.
so love how you balance the deck, now one card that i feel has a big potential synergy with the deck, is "Karn Living Legacy". is has the ability to generat ramp by creating Powerstones that can be used to transform the tokens, give you draw, and by the end you get the ability to tap your tokens to deal damage.
Karn, Living Legacy could indeed make a fine addition - especially since, with all the proliferating we'll be doing, we can get to his ult in single rotation. Good suggestion!
Nice video - I agree, they should have added way more phyrexians in the Precon.
On thing to note is, that the Germ tokens are now Phyrexians, so Scytheclaw is not as bad as it seems. ;)
Fair - since we can just re-equip it to something else and get a free proliferate for Brimaz without using a sac outlet. Good point!
They wanted to show that you could go the artifact route too. It's an interesting idea but I don't think Brimaz benefits from that because his proliferate trigger cares about Phyrexians and relying on the Incubate tokens to proc it is counterproductive since they're what we want to be proliferating and while we make a lot of them, it's not enough to make the most of the trigger potentially going off in each end step.
I bought this precon with the intention of making it a really funky phyrexian tribal deck and I’ve been looking at a few different upgrade guides for some ideas and I gotta say I really like the choices you’ve made here.
Down the road I plan on putting the OG and MOM Elesh Norn for the anthem and token support respectively, as well as a few different older Phyrexians for some on flavour additions like Yawgmoth.
Awesome video my dude looking forward to seeing the next
Happy to hear you enjoyed it!
While I do think there is a artifact creature dedicated build that would work here, personally I feel going full Phyrexians is the way to go to get the most mileage out of both parts of Brimaz's ability.
And I agree 100% with Elish Norn and Elish Norn, Grand Cenobite as great additions to the build (which I recommended as upgrades due to price).
@@GrazzetMTG absolutely agreed, Brimaz reeeeeaaaally likes Phyrexians more than artifact creatures like you laid out in your breakdown.
I had a few other cards laying around I was able to throw in like a heralds horn and Urza’s incubator to help bring the cost to cast Phyrexians down so I can bring more out on board faster.
This seems like a deck with lots of potential. I was skeptical about not having the phyrexian support but it looks good. I like the idea of a board wipe followed by an incubate token attack.
Yeah, the fact that you can simple leave your incubators as non-creatures is actually a pretty big deterrent for you opponents against them using creature based wipes, sicne if you have mana open, you it costs you only 2 mana a pop to bring (potentially) gigantic beaststicks online and attack in with them while most of the tables shields are down.
We do a semi regular precon challenge every new set at the office. This was the deck I picked. I was trying soooooo hard to make this work out the box to no end. Can’t wait to mod
So I've been playing with Call for Back up and this as a precon to see what I liked more out of the box, both are solid, but Brimaz is so good, It's almost to the point where I want to go artifact creatures with one of him, then go pure phyrexians with my current one with infect. I don't have all the cards of this guide, but I'll just see what I got lying around from All will be one for the time being :D
Love the lore explanation ❤
Happy to hear it!
Been looking forward to this one. Basically played the wish version of this deck at prerelease yesterday haha
Hope it was worth the wait!
Great upgrade, really like how focused you were able to get it but still give different avenues to a win love it. Would love to see a karlov build at some point.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
I'm currently not tackling any commanders outside of the newest sets (mainly due to lack of time) but if I do find myself the time to do so, I'll certainly open the polls to folks suggestions for older commanders for me to tackle, so keep an eye out if/when that happens!
@@GrazzetMTG It's cool dude just like watching your upgrades and builds, karlov is just a "hope you get to it" commander build.
I had a lot of fun with the Phyrexian cards in the prerelease and I thought Brimaz was pretty sweet. The precon was kinda rough but your build is awesome!
Glad you enjoyed it! This particular upgrade was quite intensive (much more than I would generally recommend doing since we had to replace so many cards) but I think the final product came our pretty solid overall, so I'm happy you agree!
If we've just replaced half a deck... would you be up for a challenge to build a deck using the most out of the replaced half?
I like a lot of these changes. I’m adding elish norn obliterate and sithirix just cuz they are decent cards although they don’t really help the theme as much
I've made the cuestionable decision of buying all five precons of MOM. I've tried the Knight Tribal, the convoke and the phyrexian. The first two were okey, but the lack of synergy on this one was hurtful to say the least. So i've watched the guide and now i'll probably follow all 5 of them for minor (and major) improvements. Won't remove the planarchase support cards tho, because it was the main reason why I bought them, but i'm sure they'll end but being decent casual decks. Thanks in advance.
Thank you 🎉🙏
You are welcome!
I was messing with a super similar idea, I want to slot in some of the aristocrat staples in a list like this. Get a little extra payoff for the sacrificing/proliferate. Thinking Vraan, Cartel Aristocrat, Elas Il Kor etc.
I can certainly going in a more tradition Aristocrats focused directions as being a viable alternative,
A favorite creature of me me is now a phyrexian, so it could be an option: Wurmcoil Engine. It is a certified classic for good reason. Alongside Phyrexian Obliterator l, it has earned a reputation as an aggravating but fair card.
I found that both obliterator and vindicator are dead cards in hand more often than not. Ended up removing them for better options like Skithyrix and Skrelv.
My new Brimaz deck may be in any day now. Can't wait to crack into this build. I got one single change to make, but not sure what I'll be cutting just yet
Hope it works well for you. What card are you looking to swap in?
@@GrazzetMTG Putting in Stinging Study over the sorcery draw 2 card. Didn't fare so well last night; one deck had the dream start for one round, while round 2 went up against a Krark's Thumb deck that just cleaned house. The store is really starting to not like that K-Thumb at all
Nice
Glad you think so!
An addition that I really wanted to put into this style of a upgrade of the pre-con was 'Darksteel Reactor'. Not really efficient or honestly scary even with one proliferate per turn, but thought it matched the theme of "Growing Threat". Combine that with 'Archfiend of the Dross' and all of sudden there are three slowly growing threats; life loss, poison and the ever ticking clock of the Reactor.
Then again I always prioritize flavor/theme over efficiency 😅
I mean, Darksteel Reactor isn't a bad choice to run in a proliferate themed deck like this one as yet another wincon for us to try to get to - so I can definitely see a place for it, though probably in a more artifact dedicated build than this Phyrexian version.
are there new tokens to add to the deck?
Great video Grazzet! I have taken some of the things you've mentioned into mind for my own build, but I've got a question; would you say Wurmcoil Engine would be a good card for Brimaz? since it and it's tokens are phyrexians
I would certainly say so! Because it been errated into a Phyrexian Wurm, we now get the death trigger proliferate for it when it dies, on top of the 6/6 incubator token when it ETB's, and it gets us 2 more Phyrexian bodies to proliferate even more later. That, coupled with the handful of reanimation spells we're running so we can bring it back to do it again, makes it a superb addition in my book!
Guess I’ll have to compare my list to yours, built this almost as soon as brimaz was released.
Fair enough! Let me know if there was a lot of overlap or if you took this in a different direction.
@@GrazzetMTG for sure! I actually leaned in on the infect style a lot more and used cards like ashnod’s altar to guarantee more proliferation on opponent’s turns.
Welp didnt think I'd buy the precons but managed to get Growing threat, Cavalry charge and Tinker Time for 58€ (For all three) So ow I'm going to have to rewatch the precon upgrade videos :)
This deck really feels ike a Phyrexian deck, it's like what a Phyrexian deck would be like if Yawgmoth was still around.
Glad you think so!
What should I replace for Drivnod Carnage Dominus? Great video, seen this like 4 times now lol
I would recommend swapping out Defiler of Faith or Basilica Shepherd for Drivnod to not change the decks mana curve, or swap out Staff of Compleation for it instead if you want to stay in the same price range (though I would personally recommend keeping the staff as it does a lot for the build).
Hope that helps!
@@GrazzetMTG Hey, actually doing the max upgrade version of this deck, maybe drivnod for bloodline? Also, with an infinite budget, any other changes you would make? Thanks for replying!
if i wanted to have elesh norn saga in this decl what should i switch out?
I would swap out Carnifex Demon for Elesh Norn - since her saga side has a tribal wipe on its 3rd chapter (which is better than Carnifex Demon;s slow -1/-1 counter themed wipe) on top of empowering our Incubator Token gameplan.
Hope that helps!
Yeah, still baffling that the phyrexian count is as low as it is out of the box. But your upgrade videos thus far have done a great job of lifting these precons up so they better match the 'five precon' sets like New Capenna. The exception would be Cavalry Charge I suppose, though those upgrades certainly don't hurt 😅
Yep - this one need quite the overhaul - possible more than any other precon upgrade I had to tackle - but I think it turned out pretty well all things considered, so I'm glad you think so too!
Too bad they couldn't have had a Solemn Simulacrum in the precon would have been a perfect fit for the artifact creature while getting support from the golem support.
Is there a list of just the stuff you added to the deck?
Sort of. In a pinned comment I made on the video there is the full list of changes I made (you will have to expand it).
Hope that helps!
Would Felicia fang of silver quill? Be good in this deck and tesya karlov?
Felisa, Fang of Silverquill may not bee too impactful in this build, as she only procs off of nontoken creatures dying and we don't have TOO many reliable ways to get +1/+1 counters on our non-incubator tokens in the build. And Teysa Karlov is a trap here, since Brimaz will not get to trigger twice since its a delayed trigger, which Tesya will not see and anything did die in that instance to trigger it.
Hope that helps!
@Grazzet MTG ah I forgot that Felicia is nontoken woops. And thanks for the tip on tesya.
Teysa Karlov to double Brimaz’s proliferate. i know shes not phyrexian but shes a personal fav. Drivinod does the same thing to keep it phyrexian themed
Ok im gonna be honest how you upgrade the deck (the swaps) thats how the deck should have been built in the first place because when i saw the list it was more artifact matters rather than phyrexian tribal
so this is a amazing upgrade video
Im a bit ticked off how WotC handled these precons. The only one that was decent in terms of consistent gameplay was the Calvary Charge. They left out a LOT of incubator creatures that they could have easily added to this deck. And the creatures arent even that expensive. Its just asinine.
Now you're speaking my language.
I didn't know anyone else spoke Phyrexian!
So for some reason on card trader im told that the some or the cards in this set are not tournament legal ? Do you have any clue why that is ? Im new to mtg and was looking for a phyrexian deck and this definitely seems fun.
I mostly just like them for aestethics but i dont want to invest money into something if i cant actually play it.
Cant find anything on ban lists so im just stumped. :/
Sorry, I looked this over and I can't seem to see anything that would male this deck not legal for EDH.
@@GrazzetMTG could it be that some version of cards aren't legal ?
@@GrazzetMTG also thank you for the effort Ive now settled on one of your precon builds, a slimefoot budget saproling deck and a hydra deck with zaxara have a great one mate
Question, if two Phyrexians die during your turn do you proliferate twice?
You do not. It only checks on the end step if a Phyrexian died and then triggers, regardless of how many die. It does however check EVERY end step, so if Phyrexian we control dies on an opponents end step, we still get to proliferate.
Hope that helps!
@@GrazzetMTG that helps massively thank you! I guess if drivnod is on the field then I proliferate twice
You should add The Ozolith and make it a $100 upgrade and cut a non Phyrexian for it. Seems players blow up big incubated Phyrexian a when they flip however you can move the counters back to the Ozolith and move them back at the next combat ;)
While I won't be changing the price cap of my Precon Upgrade Guides again (had to bump it from $65 to $75 already due to WotC increasing the prices), I do agree that the Ozolith is a fantastic addition to the build - making so even if are opponents are able to destroy our incubators, their counters will never go to waste. Very good suggestion!
Greetings from Costa Rica sir. I discovered your channel last week and I have to say I've been liking it a lot. Your approach to each deck is very different and original from others and I also like how you provide a brief lore for the Commander at the beginning. Keep up the good work. Thank you. #GRAZZET10KGIVEAWAY
Glad to hear you enjoy my work! One quick thing though - to enter the giveaway you will need to comment that hashtag on the giveaway video itself - ruclips.net/video/WUu7CUbFUbc/видео.html - otherwise the comment picker site I use will not see it.
Please do an Elenda and Azor deck!
I'll putting all the backup commanders on their own poll after we're done covering the precons, which Elenda and Azor will be on - so be sure to cast your vote when it goes live!
waiting of kasla
Divine Convocation will be the next precon we'll be tacking - so hang tight, cause Kasla is right around the corner!
@@GrazzetMTG Tks, looking forward