no nonsense, simplified way of doing things.. you are truly an expert in your field. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. I have definitely learned from you today.
Finally A true DIY ! Covers all the important setting the Pinon ! Great Job TY !!! I have the details now i can be confident to tackle this job and it not a lack of mechanics but the finer steps needed to know as no one person i have seen showing it all !
I am at this point in my project setting up reared gears with a posi. I get in my own head and worried about screwing this up. Excellent information video. Super glad I stumbled on this. Thanks for sharing. 🤘🤘🤘
@@jasonlee9326how long did it take and on a scale to 1 to 10 what's the difficulty I found a brand new gm rear posi track on Craigslist so cheap that I have to buy it lol😂
Thank you for the no BS and stupid reality tv crap that other people put on their “instructional” videos!! You absolutely made everthing clear for me and answered all of my questions!
wait, u check a pattern? lmao just send em! nah just playin, i been changing gears for years, this is spot on info for someone who wants to see how its done. finally did 4.56s on my 08 silverado today, still worry myself to death when i change ratios vs replacement parts, nice, quite and smooth like it should be so i can sleep easy tonite,
Man I’ve watched at least a dozen videos on this and this is the only one that gave me the confidence to tackle the job on my Silverado 4.10s and a posi! To replace the Grenade80 and 3.42s
Damn it brother!!! You have the God given ability to explain complicated shit in a easy to digest way! Top Notch Video without any bullshit and you stayed on subject
I’ve watched a bunch of videos And this one is by far the best. Good explanation and straight to the point. Makes me feel good about trying this on my 74 Camaro 8.5 Just worried my shims won’t match up either so might place an order on some 7.5 shims just in case lol
So I did my gears everything is checking out as far as pattern but I Just wanted your opinion on my back lash I got it right at 10 Should I keep shifting the carrier over to get around 8 or run it lol I think Yukon calls for 6 to 10 But I’ve also read 6 to 12 so idk lol
I'm getting ready to install a 373 limited slip in my 2008 Chevrolet silverado and I've never did it before so hopefully I can get it right. Everyone says you need these special tools but I guess not . Thanks for the info I'm going to give UT a shot thus weekend and see what I can screw up lol
Nice job I learned something here thanks buddy I’ve gotta change my gears I’m running a turbo 400 with 3.73 gear I’m installing a 3.21 to get my rpms down
I figure I'm gonna do it myself. My concern is the fact I had to move my truck. Put it in 4wd to re arrange my driveway and I was not getting much movement off the front wheels (some in forward almost none in reverse). It's always something.
great video. One of these days I’m going to give it a try. Got a 69 firebird that I’d like to upgrade to a posi. And a gmc envoy that’s making a terrible noise from the rear end. I’ll start with that one.
To throw this out there: While setting preload after you throw on the crush, when you get it to 5-12lbs preload, take smooth head hammer of your choosing, with the force you would drive in a small finishing nail to wood, hit the end of the pinion (thread/shaft side) and few times, then do the same with the gear side dead in the middle of the gear. Once in a while the bearing races didn’t completely seat. After a moderate test drive and break in, I get decel whine and find the preload lost and have to retorque. (Note: I used tamper marking paint and the nut didn’t back off), Smacking it a few times is good insurance and will give you confirmation if after smacking it a few times on each end loosens the preload to zero. 🤙
i do this also with an inch and a quarter brass drift and brass hammer. go back and forth and recheck pinion preload. I also install permatex form a gasket sealer on the pinion splines .
Great video. But not a mechanic myself; what is a reasonable labor cost for you or similar skilled shop in the current January 2023 market. Thanks again for all of us viewers.
I’ve never seen such a beat on brand new ring gear before. What brand was that to avoids it? Certainly not Yukon Gear or USA Standard cuz they never came with that many defects. Actually, I’ve never had issues with either of those two brands which are basically the same USA Standard is the Yukon Gear parts that didn’t quite meet their standard but are still a great product, and they sell it as USA Standard
Interesting on a Yukon gear set you had that big ole chunk out of the ring… just bought a yukon set for the 1500 and same thing, ends of the ring gear on 3 or 4 teeth are all chipped up…
Hey man, i recently had my g80 carrier completely shatter on me. I hope you see this comment and help me out, but the ring and pinion gear are in good shape, and i just need a new carrier and carrier bearings. I was wondering if i will need to reshim my pinion gear because its a new carrier. I understand that i will need to play around with carrier bearing preload and run the patterns to see how the gears mesh, but since i am using the old pinion which hasn't been touched i am hoping i wont need to play around with pinion depth. Thanks man great video, hoping for a speedy reply lol
The carrier runs on centerline so you are correct, pinion depth will not change when using the same gears. Variances in carrier deck height (ring gear flange) may change backlash and preload.
Thanks man, i appreciate your reply and help. But now im stuck with the issue of not finding a posi unit that is GM 8 inches. Im looking for a 8 inch 10 bolt 28 spline unit and all i see is 8.5 or 8.6. This sucks lol
wow great info just what I needed. if you could explain what the concept of that crush washer is I'd appreciate it. I used my old one guess I shouldn't do that? Also which side does the wider / fat side go to? Thanks
crush sleeve maintains the required preload on the pinion bearings, should never be reused because it crushes to the proper length when the appropriate amount of drag is achieved. there is no fat side on a new sleeve, that's an effect of it being compressed
Nice work, Thanks for the info. How do you figure out the right gear ratio by changing the horse power of your engine? 79 corvette stock has 198 HP and 3.55 gear ratio. I'm bumping the HP to 400 and converting from automatic to a manual Tremix 5 speed TKX. Thanks again.
horsepower is irrelevant for selecting gear ratio, instead target a usable cruising rpm, (highway or expressway speeds with an overdrive) compute gear ratio vs tire height using a final drive ratio calculator. lucky for you tremec has a good one with your trans in the dropdown menu. www.tremec.com/calculadora.php
A beam style 1/4 drive torque wrench, the clicker style will not work for this. www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-M195-Torque-Wrench/dp/B00SNICDJC/ref=asc_df_B00SNICDJC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310828259700&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9786354399823811614&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019172&hvtargid=pla-442736341178&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=65583250281&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=310828259700&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9786354399823811614&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019172&hvtargid=pla-442736341178
Great video man. I have 2 s10’s that could both use a posi and a Silverado 1500 I wanna put 4.88 gears in and a clutch type limited slip. I had a question as you’ve done tons of rear ends. Is there a huge quality control issue with the eBay limited slips you can find in the $150-170 price range? Have you had experience with Chinese differentials? I’ve ran them in transaxle Hondas before but for the most part the helical limited slips you can get for the Hondas are great and usually 1/3’rd the price. I have seen one that was pretty far out of being concentric but was able to fix it on a lathe and had to run over size bearings to make it work.
check out Quick performance, they are slinging a house brand package which i suspect is offshore, and my wholesale suppliers cant even touch their prices. 2 out of probably 10 gearsets have been on the noisy side, One customer complained and I set it up loose to tight didn't matter what I did it howled. probably could have warrantied it but the customer had purchased the parts a year prior. I'll also add that most of the high dollar yukon stuff (chromoly axles ect) is made in Indonesia
I need mine done at this very moment .. the bolts broke snapped in half off the Ring 2 days ago … I need to fine a shop to do it because I don’t have the right tools. Plus I never did it b4
Great video. Im in a personal dilemma where i dont know if i wanna get the yukon posi carrier or just get a lunchbox locker. Im already going to be in the rearend to change the ring and pinion but im trying to stay in a budget. From what ive read, lunchbox lockers can be reliable but id hate to take everything apart all over again.
@@HsPerformanceWi Yea I goofed on that one. Luckily I didn’t fill it with oil yet so not a huge deal. Your video helped me out big time with my diff rebuild on my 2002 1500 Silverado
Hey bud I got a ragged old hunting truck with 35s and I want to go to 4.56's, but I don't care about putting a high quality carrier in it. Can I use the factory carrier from the 3.42s? Or do I have to replace the carrier?
not a clue, 99.9% of the time I'm installing a fresh LSD/posi of some sort. if the pin is galled up or there's visible spider wear replace them. I have put side gear/spider kits in a few open diffs in the past but they were clearly torn up
@@HsPerformanceWi I’m about to work on my bosses 2003 Chevy 1500 Im hoping I don’t have to do the pinion tho 🤞🏼 he says he only hears the noise while accelerating could it be just the hub bearing ?
Do more videos like this i was afraid to do this to my 7.5 10 bold in my 84 cutlass I’m putting a posi and new gears there thicker then the ones that came out so I know I’m gonna be shimming you recommend using the old shims that come off and work off those sizes stay in the factory shim size range
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no nonsense, simplified way of doing things.. you are truly an expert in your field. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. I have definitely learned from you today.
Finally A true DIY ! Covers all the important setting the Pinon ! Great Job TY !!! I have the details now i can be confident to tackle this job and it not a lack of mechanics but the finer steps needed to know as no one person i have seen showing it all !
I am at this point in my project setting up reared gears with a posi. I get in my own head and worried about screwing this up. Excellent information video. Super glad I stumbled on this. Thanks for sharing. 🤘🤘🤘
Did u end up doin the rear urself ?
Yea and it turned out good enough that a couple friends wanted me to do theirs.
@@jasonlee9326how long did it take and on a scale to 1 to 10 what's the difficulty I found a brand new gm rear posi track on Craigslist so cheap that I have to buy it lol😂
Great video! I'm so close to trusting myself and swapping out my gears In my truck. I always second guess myself. Thanks for the explanation
Thanks H this was the best video to help me rebuild my 10bolt completely with a Yukon duragrip. Toaster oven and all !!
This is the best demonstration of setting up rear ends I’ve ever seen. Great job.
Thank you for the no BS and stupid reality tv crap that other people put on their “instructional” videos!! You absolutely made everthing clear for me and answered all of my questions!
wait, u check a pattern? lmao just send em! nah just playin, i been changing gears for years, this is spot on info for someone who wants to see how its done. finally did 4.56s on my 08 silverado today, still worry myself to death when i change ratios vs replacement parts, nice, quite and smooth like it should be so i can sleep easy tonite,
Man I’ve watched at least a dozen videos on this and this is the only one that gave me the confidence to tackle the job on my Silverado 4.10s and a posi! To replace the Grenade80 and 3.42s
Nice, thanks…… after 20 MIT mechanical engineering style videos yours made me the most confident.
Damn it brother!!! You have the God given ability to explain complicated shit in a easy to digest way! Top Notch Video without any bullshit and you stayed on subject
Good video, i plan on going from 3.08 to 4.11 in my 8.2 10 bolt and feel more confident after watching you set yours up. Thanks for sharing.
That was one of the better gear set videos I’ve seen on RUclips!
One of the best videos on gear setup and posi install. Thanks.
I’ve watched a bunch of videos
And this one is by far the best.
Good explanation and straight to the point.
Makes me feel good about trying this on my 74 Camaro 8.5
Just worried my shims won’t match up either
so might place an order on some 7.5 shims just in case lol
So I did my gears everything is checking out as far as pattern but I
Just wanted your opinion on my back lash
I got it right at 10
Should I keep shifting the carrier over to get around 8 or run it lol
I think Yukon calls for 6 to 10
But I’ve also read 6 to 12 so idk lol
Great tutorial!! I have a '68 C-10 that I'll begin restoring this fall. The rear diff is definitely a good place to start!
That was definitely good. I like the chart you showed. That was awesome. Snap a photo of that for later.
Thanks, I have a few 10 bolts that will need to go over and change gears. watched many videos and your video give me more confidence thanks again.
I'm getting ready to install a 373 limited slip in my 2008 Chevrolet silverado and I've never did it before so hopefully I can get it right. Everyone says you need these special tools but I guess not . Thanks for the info I'm going to give UT a shot thus weekend and see what I can screw up lol
Best ring and pinion set up video. Outstanding work.
Thanks for the video. The shops in my area are charging $7-800 for this job. I'm going to do this if it takes me whatever!
I am about to do 3.90 gears and true track in my silverado. This video made me feel a lot better about it.
Avoid truetrac it is taiwan garbage. Get Auburn gear its the only American made
GREAT how to video brother, just kick up my confidence a bit, my old one blew up on me so I’m going in and getting her done. Thank you
Great video--getting ready to do the same. Can you tell me what size vise is needed hold carrier when torqueing the ring gear?
I appriciate your video, worked exactly like you demonstrated, hit my 19in lb first try thanks man!
Nice job
I learned something here thanks buddy
I’ve gotta change my gears I’m running a turbo 400 with 3.73 gear I’m installing a 3.21 to get my rpms down
That was cool.... my gm 14 bolt 10.5 has a posi, just looking to do a Gear Change and have to do the front too, 2005 4x4 2500 Silverado
I figure I'm gonna do it myself. My concern is the fact I had to move my truck. Put it in 4wd to re arrange my driveway and I was not getting much movement off the front wheels (some in forward almost none in reverse). It's always something.
Awesome video - thanks for creating this gem ....will be tackling my own after watching your install...many thanks
Well done! No BS, straight to the points.
Hey Excellent video tutorial. You explained the setup very well. Are you in NJ . I give you some work.
great video. One of these days I’m going to give it a try. Got a 69 firebird that I’d like to upgrade to a posi. And a gmc envoy that’s making a terrible noise from the rear end. I’ll start with that one.
To throw this out there:
While setting preload after you throw on the crush, when you get it to 5-12lbs preload, take smooth head hammer of your choosing, with the force you would drive in a small finishing nail to wood, hit the end of the pinion (thread/shaft side) and few times, then do the same with the gear side dead in the middle of the gear.
Once in a while the bearing races didn’t completely seat. After a moderate test drive and break in, I get decel whine and find the preload lost and have to retorque. (Note: I used tamper marking paint and the nut didn’t back off), Smacking it a few times is good insurance and will give you confirmation if after smacking it a few times on each end loosens the preload to zero. 🤙
i do this also with an inch and a quarter brass drift and brass hammer. go back and forth and recheck pinion preload. I also install permatex form a gasket sealer on the pinion splines .
Thanks!
Great video. No BS. Straight to the point.
Awesome man I’m about to do a gear swap this weekend and this was really helpful
Great video. But not a mechanic myself; what is a reasonable labor cost for you or similar skilled shop in the current January 2023 market.
Thanks again for all of us viewers.
Just had one done posi, gears, and master install kit... labor was 700. I supplied the parts.
I normally charge 400 per axle to install gears and posi unit
great video. one of the better ones I've seen. Great job
Great vid and the basics! I was overthinking the process; this breaks it down...Thanks!
That was the best demo. Thanks
I’ve never seen such a beat on brand new ring gear before. What brand was that to avoids it? Certainly not Yukon Gear or USA Standard cuz they never came with that many defects. Actually, I’ve never had issues with either of those two brands which are basically the same USA Standard is the Yukon Gear parts that didn’t quite meet their standard but are still a great product, and they sell it as USA Standard
Nice job you definitely know what you're doing
Interesting on a Yukon gear set you had that big ole chunk out of the ring… just bought a yukon set for the 1500 and same thing, ends of the ring gear on 3 or 4 teeth are all chipped up…
these were quick performance's house brand gears that come with their locker package
Great video! Thank you! Will you share the part number for the Carrier & Pinion Bearing Puller tool you use? Thanks!
link is in the description 😎
Hey man, i recently had my g80 carrier completely shatter on me. I hope you see this comment and help me out, but the ring and pinion gear are in good shape, and i just need a new carrier and carrier bearings. I was wondering if i will need to reshim my pinion gear because its a new carrier. I understand that i will need to play around with carrier bearing preload and run the patterns to see how the gears mesh, but since i am using the old pinion which hasn't been touched i am hoping i wont need to play around with pinion depth. Thanks man great video, hoping for a speedy reply lol
The carrier runs on centerline so you are correct, pinion depth will not change when using the same gears. Variances in carrier deck height (ring gear flange) may change backlash and preload.
Thanks man, i appreciate your reply and help. But now im stuck with the issue of not finding a posi unit that is GM 8 inches. Im looking for a 8 inch 10 bolt 28 spline unit and all i see is 8.5 or 8.6. This sucks lol
this is an excellent, thoughtful resource. no BS for sure!
wow great info just what I needed. if you could explain what the concept of that crush washer is I'd appreciate it. I used my old one guess I shouldn't do that? Also which side does the wider / fat side go to? Thanks
crush sleeve maintains the required preload on the pinion bearings, should never be reused because it crushes to the proper length when the appropriate amount of drag is achieved. there is no fat side on a new sleeve, that's an effect of it being compressed
Nice job bro, only thing I didn't see his you installing the bolts for the ring gear. I wanted to know if you use red loctite on the bolts.
yes, always red loctite
Nice work, Thanks for the info. How do you figure out the right gear ratio by changing the horse power of your engine? 79 corvette stock has 198 HP and 3.55 gear ratio. I'm bumping the HP to 400 and converting from automatic to a manual Tremix 5 speed TKX. Thanks again.
horsepower is irrelevant for selecting gear ratio, instead target a usable cruising rpm, (highway or expressway speeds with an overdrive) compute gear ratio vs tire height using a final drive ratio calculator. lucky for you tremec has a good one with your trans in the dropdown menu. www.tremec.com/calculadora.php
what tool did you use to measure pinion preload ? where’d you get it from? great video, very thorough and i feel ready to do this on my 2003 silverado
A beam style 1/4 drive torque wrench, the clicker style will not work for this. www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-M195-Torque-Wrench/dp/B00SNICDJC/ref=asc_df_B00SNICDJC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310828259700&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9786354399823811614&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019172&hvtargid=pla-442736341178&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=65583250281&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=310828259700&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9786354399823811614&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019172&hvtargid=pla-442736341178
So where are you so I can bring my rear end for service? It’s a Chevy 10 bolt 3.73
You have a link to the pattern you had on paper? I looked on Google but didn't get any hits that looked similar. Thanks and great video
images.app.goo.gl/7kxeWhHm6eoBZ5XM7
Great video man. I have 2 s10’s that could both use a posi and a Silverado 1500 I wanna put 4.88 gears in and a clutch type limited slip. I had a question as you’ve done tons of rear ends. Is there a huge quality control issue with the eBay limited slips you can find in the $150-170 price range? Have you had experience with Chinese differentials? I’ve ran them in transaxle Hondas before but for the most part the helical limited slips you can get for the Hondas are great and usually 1/3’rd the price. I have seen one that was pretty far out of being concentric but was able to fix it on a lathe and had to run over size bearings to make it work.
check out Quick performance, they are slinging a house brand package which i suspect is offshore, and my wholesale suppliers cant even touch their prices. 2 out of probably 10 gearsets have been on the noisy side, One customer complained and I set it up loose to tight didn't matter what I did it howled. probably could have warrantied it but the customer had purchased the parts a year prior. I'll also add that most of the high dollar yukon stuff (chromoly axles ect) is made in Indonesia
👍😎 I wish yeA could work on my k3500 95
Saving this. Great video!
you make it look so easy. thanks for taking the time to show us this mystery. take care guy love your videos.
Did you use inner and outer to set the pippin depth?
I need mine done at this very moment .. the bolts broke snapped in half off the Ring 2 days ago … I need to fine a shop to do it because I don’t have the right tools. Plus I never did it b4
Great video. Im in a personal dilemma where i dont know if i wanna get the yukon posi carrier or just get a lunchbox locker. Im already going to be in the rearend to change the ring and pinion but im trying to stay in a budget. From what ive read, lunchbox lockers can be reliable but id hate to take everything apart all over again.
So you check the pinion preload with the carrier not installed?
Looks like I’m going to have to pull my axle shafts and carrier back out 😅
Correct!
@@HsPerformanceWi Yea I goofed on that one. Luckily I didn’t fill it with oil yet so not a huge deal.
Your video helped me out big time with my diff rebuild on my 2002 1500 Silverado
Hey bud I got a ragged old hunting truck with 35s and I want to go to 4.56's, but I don't care about putting a high quality carrier in it. Can I use the factory carrier from the 3.42s? Or do I have to replace the carrier?
Yup you can just change the “gear set”
How hot do you get your bearings? 230f they should drop right on
Did you get any howling from the gears while driving?
yes, 3 sets in a row from quick performance were unacceptably loud. I hope they've fixed the issue
Does changing the pinion shim depth change the backlash? Do you recheck the BL after changing the pinion shim depth? Thanks!
@DarkSim77 yes any change to the pinion will affect backlash
Best setup video ever.
Great video, best out there
Excellent !! Thank you !
What is side ( spider gears play allowance, just curious? On old set?
not a clue, 99.9% of the time I'm installing a fresh LSD/posi of some sort. if the pin is galled up or there's visible spider wear replace them. I have put side gear/spider kits in a few open diffs in the past but they were clearly torn up
Where did you get the dial indicator?
Have a link for it?
Harbor freight
Thanks 🤟
What if you have a rear end that didn't come with the pinion? How do you find a starting point for the pinion shim?
if it's a 10 bolt I would start wtih .030" you will have some trial and error
Nice video,. What video editing program are you using?
shotcut
@@HsPerformanceWi right on brother thanks
Thanks you are a good teacher
How did you do the break in procedure?
www.yukongear.com/blogs/the-ultimate-gear-break-in-guide-ensuring-peak-performance-and-longevity_1?srsltid=AfmBOorBsi0Dn6OovHnXVlt6ua1HfqnOoQd5R7wXByNwPyoVFh1iqVJP
What caliper measuring tool did you use mine dosent measure thousands
I've never seen one that doesn't, a cheap harbor freight digital will do the job
@@HsPerformanceWi maybe I'm reading it wrong
What bearing race installer kit you use?
cheap harbor freight set
thank you im doing my tahoe and this is a big help
Great esplaination
Amazing video!
Hello Wayne here have a big question how can I contact you.
hperf.net
Nice video nice and simple thanks
Great job explaining it
Yup, I definitely picked up a few tips, thank you
Thanks man, good video
Why does my not spin freely it take 20inch pounds to move but isn’t smooth
the only reason it wouldn't turn smoothly is you have debris in the bearings, start over.
@@HsPerformanceWi you have Facebook so I could pm you ?
Is it a 30 spline
Great video and explanations
Wjere did you get gear n pinion
quick performance
Great vid. Thanks
She'll either burn in, or she'll burn out.
Bigger the gob, the better the job
Dude,you need to put these on t-shirts.
Awesome video. Thanks.
No preload on the pinion ?
Yes, preload on the pinion.
@@HsPerformanceWi I’m about to work on my bosses 2003 Chevy 1500 Im hoping I don’t have to do the pinion tho 🤞🏼 he says he only hears the noise while accelerating could it be just the hub bearing ?
Thank you
No BS video!👍🏻
Good video buddy….thanks
Good job thanks 👍
Great video
Well done, Thanks!
God i wish i wouldve seen this video sooner.... time to tear apart and redo for me😅😢
Nice
Do more videos like this i was afraid to do this to my 7.5 10 bold in my 84 cutlass I’m putting a posi and new gears there thicker then the ones that came out so I know I’m gonna be shimming you recommend using the old shims that come off and work off those sizes stay in the factory shim size range
The existing pinion shim will at least give you a point to start from, best of luck!
Thank u