The biggest problem with the hard cases is that you're meant to either leave them fully charged or fully uncharged, because you can't storage charge it. If only they included a banace cable with the battery, it'd shut people like us up. I find a velcro strap anchored to the battery clip works AOK for holding standard batteries. I've got a 25mm wide strap that wraps longways.
There's not a balance plug on the same end as the battery connector? A cheap balance cable extender will remedy that if it does.🤷🏾♂️ But that's for advanced users who already have better lipo chargers...
@@VDVC-RC yep, they should include that $2 cable. its not something even people with hobby chargers have. But the novice storing their battery at either 0% or 100% can't be safe or good for the battery
These are aimed at novices, so I totally get your point, but it really depends on where the lvc Is set. I highly doubt it, but these could actually be smart batteries that "self discharge" 😂 Lemme go order one to test & review
@@VDVC-RC nobody really considered battery health on laptops, a cynic could say its to sell more batteries. Only now in road cars is battery life becoming a selling point. But the old mjx trucks had "smart" batteries that could show you charge. It was one step towards storage charging. And they had this annoying clip. But yeah I'd be happy with the $2 cable
If the USB chargers they supplied had detachable balance cables that you could use with your own balance charger, problem solved, no extra cable required
the great thing about wltoys is theyre cheap and they listen to their customers which is super rare now days. the thing i wish they would do is get an 1/8 scale buggy and then take their 10th scale and get themm track ready as much as possible and give us premium parts to buy so people can start racing for way cheaper than currently. I have a feeling these guys are gonna be the next traxxas and arma honestly because they put out some awesome stuff for starters or people with smaller budgets.
Rlaarlo has a sale on their 1/14 brushed rtr for $99 at the moment. About the same price as the wltoys 144001 but with much better quality and 99% interchangeable parts between both platforms.
Not sure where you get your information from but this company does not listen to their customers. Very far from it. If they would listen to the customers they'd be top-notch top dog right now. WL toys are going downhill. If they listen to the customers they wouldn't put brushed motors in their newer vehicles. And we wouldn't have to complain about oil-filled shocks they would just put friction shocks on it. If they didn't complain about this car this car would have came with friction shocks.
I needed that, I needed a mount for a 36-something brushless motor. My 124008 is modded (2840 to 2958 4480kv on 3s) . I put a new 120a esc on the battery side and I needed to fit a tab to keep the battery from sliding in the steering linkage that is facing backwards. The tires are good but don't last very long, the shock towers are weak and I need to throw away the servo saver it's stripped. Other than that I'm happy with it good platform for a low price imo.
How did you go? I have a 124019 I converted to brushless and was going to make a speedrun car but it snapped a rear axle and I could never find the exact replacement part for it, I got sick of looking at it today and ordered one of these and am wondering how much luck people had upgrading/fitting the parts. I plan on putting a Surpass 3650, Ezrun Max10 and a 100c 4s CHNL drone battery in it and see how it goes against my 6s Typhon just on the road.
They have stiff competition. I don't think they appreciate that consumers have a better appreciation of what they want then they did just a couple years ago in this segment of the market. We're still seeing all of them playing games with the quality of components and it's up to reviewers like you to dig down into the details to bring value to these reviews. What is sorely being neglected is the quality of the components. Just to say it has a metal gearbox doesn't state the quality of metal which they have varying qualities; sintered, zinc etc.. Looking at a transmitters how well do they perform? What distance can be obtained? How much latency is there? Do they accept LiPo's? I think many of us could give a short list of what should be covered in a review that really exposes the value differences between these models.
I fully appreciate your views on this. As a creator its tough. People want short, sharp and straight to the point over in depth breakdowns. People simply get bored these days which makes it incredibly hard to create such an in depth video without losing people. This is why me and a lot of channels cover the essentials then move straight on. Some channels do the move in depth stuff which is a great service to the hobby but again its rare) Truth is at this budget level i dont think most people care about the quality of metals. If its cheap they will buy it. Sad but true.
@@beyondRC I'd just flash up a score sheet at the end of the video. The criteria between these variations are sadly predictable but require tear down and investigation. Likely a result of using many of the same suppliers for components. The results often come down to their choice of going top shelf or bottom shelf in their component selection and where they decide they can get away with cutting a corner. Lately there's been a move to rework ESC firmware to remove 3S support even though many reviewers receive versions that will support 3S. Makes me think they are sugaring the samples with better components or don't expect them to fail in the time it takes to make a review. Reviewers seems to be getting 3S supported firmware and the purchased units come with a warning label 2S only with firmware that falls flat when it sees 3S voltage. Wltoys is one manufacturer that is doing this.
bs, they only have one or two s3 models, their 35a electric on other base isnt suited for 3s, it says so in the manual, not a scam kidd, go bark up aother tree@@necro_nemesis
I was hoping they would have used this chassis and stuck the electronics from the 124017 in it. All my batteries are 2s while the 124010 and the 124008 would be terribly slow on 2s with their smaller motors.
Just another reminiscence of boring 124019... I have mine locked in the glass display collecting dust. The ESC will turn super hot after 10 min of run... This one the electronics look identical to 124019... cliche body, You're right, WLTOYS never learned from their mistakes... They're literally moving backwards... Very sad for them.
Would be nice to see them come up with something new, or more outstanding from the crowd. But props to them for listening to the feedback and putting oiled shocks on before sending them out 😅
Hello Master, do You think that CVDs and dog bone will fit to 124019 and other? I'll be grateful for answer... Great video as always...Have a nice day.
Agreed. I'm surprised a 560 motor can fit in there perfectly, so I'll definitely mess around and see what combo's I can fit on it. I just hope the motor mount will fit with any standard brushless motors out there
@@OCTEXRCsomeone out there made a carbon fiber motor mount. If this thing is in the under 3lbs weight range, a 26mm canned brushless motor will be plenty of umph for a basher. Especially if it's properly geared. The rest of the drivetrain seems pretty robust too.
I'm a complete beginner, bought a hyper go 14210 and been playing with it for about 2 weeks. Bought this wltoys 124010 because the hyper go has too much power for me and its dificult to control. Also, because found it for 70€ with 2 s2 bateries. I hope this one is easier to control and will give me an easier time to learn TT circuits
I have the 124016 V2 (blue wheel) and rirnr also problems with the control, at least 20% of the throttle does nothing and then accelerates. The first wltoys I bought was the 12429 and I had no luck with it, many problems with electronics just having bought it
This is galleywood common. Will check that out too! We go out various days mate send me an email with your number beyondrc1@gmail.com and i will give you a shout on the next one.
@beyondRC Yea I heard of that place. Was checking that out on maps the other day. Everything is on Facebook nowadays and I don't want it, problem is I can't find anyone to run without Facebook. Just over me local park on my own playing with a toy car 🚗 lol Looked at ARC Colchester and it's mainly 1/8 -1/5. I only have and MT10 atm. Keep up the great work 👍
Im very new to rc. About 6 months now. I have two wltoys 144 series that i do really enjoy but im sick of buying parts for them. Im waiting in a Rlaarlo AMX12 roller to show up that im sure ill be much happier with.
CORALLY KAGAMA Review? Hopefully Rochester Rc sets you up. Got myself MT10 V2 and told them Beyond Rc was why I was there. Excellent shop would highly recommend, great customer service 👌
Quite possibly mate. It seems Corally themselves have been distant with me after my somewhat negative reviews about their cars/parts availability but oh well haha! Rochester RC are a great bunch and we do have some great stuff lined up!
Brilliant video mate nice price too for a beginner who haven't ran rc cars before. But I parsley would go for 144010 because its brushless system thus one is only brushed which is no good has its a lot slower to me 😊😊😮
I have the 144010 brushless and 144001 brushed. The brushed version is cheaper and honestly more fun to drive. If you wanna do speed runs the 144010 is better but you will upgrade it sooner than you expect. Moror upgrade are very limited with the brushless setup but motor mounts are cheap and plentiful. Regardless, order more tires as mine didn't survive two batteries and the cvds and dogbones as they tend to bend just from looking at them. Grease the diffs or never one will run properly.
You got a really nice looking buggy with an MJX tough chassis nice oil filled shocks It looks badass and then you go around and put a freaking brushed motor in it. That's the dumbest thing that I ever seen. They could have hit this one out of the ballpark but they put a brushed motor in it. Whoever's doing the thinking for WL toys they're not thinking very well. Cuz this could have been a winner all round winter. All they would have had to do was put a nice brushless engine in it and this would have been a killer buggy.
I think it is kind of funny that everyone jumped on Wl toys for putting friction shocks on their latest buggy, but nobody ever jumps on tamiya or traxxas because most of their cars also come with friction shocks, and some traxxas, and latrax cars come with friction shocks.
It was out of the norm that's why. Pretty much every wltoys release has had oil shocks. Tamiya is to be expected. Almost all of them are from the 80s. La trax is very low level again so it doesn't surprise me. No new cheap RC car should ever have friction shocks.
I'm a fan of this buggy but this is Basically the same price as the 124008 Brushless version, apart from the better looking body shell it Seems a bit pointless.
Ohh mate, this company had an amazing chance and completely blew it, and continue to blow it ??? Everyone I know just won't invest anymore! However great review mate and as always thanks for your upload 👍🙏🐱
I know! They have had many chances to create something new and innovative but all we see is them stepping back instead of forward, new bodies, new transmitters but never any new designs or ideas. Just the same old..
@@beyondRCThe tone of your voice at the end of almost every sentence always sound like your complaining (and asking a question at the same time), even when you are not doing that. I know ppl try to "add personality" to the vids, but then it gets in the way of unemotional analysis of the product (thus to put personality in some other way).
I can understand it's not bad idea cheaper Chinese models but not really hobbyists grade unless you upgrade. It may get few people back into the hobby in long run maybe. I'm not a fan of plastic chassis metal chassis plate was lot better.👍
Wl toys are better than alot out there but hbx is way better imo, some bigger scales like 1/10 and better still 1/8 from these tiny rc car makers would be awesome, i mean emagin having a hbx 2995 1/8 scale right ??? 😍👌
MJX already stop their proprietary hard casing batt of their early version yet WLtoys actually copied their early mistake and put it in new models! Just get a MJX new series or HBX which had nothing broke after months of bashing. Also all my Wltoys i had will break something on every run..
Save 15 dollars from the brushless version??😂😂😂 15 dollars for electronics which would cost more than 3 times to upgrade!😂😂😂 It will have a HUGE SUCCESS!🤭🤭😂🤭😂🤭
I have/had almost all 'hobby grade' wl toys rc's.. And they were all crap-ish.. Metal parts that bend with hand, tolerances are crap, cheap plastic.. So, it is better to save some money and buy something of better quality, you will have less frustrations and more fun...
Theres better options at this price point, like hbx. The transmitters for this one is fine for me as compared to the small cramped handle transmitters that beyondrc recommending wltoys used to have. The battery may not be a as big deal as he makes it too, just use other soft pack batteries. The electronics I agree are no good tho.
I fortunately my idea to put a phat bodies Raptor body on this has hit two brick walls....nr1 taxation and fees due to Brexit....nr 2 only eu retailer is french and does not ship outside france
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For a beginner, i find the power characteristics of brushed electronics a little easier to control. That softer power curve can be rewarding to use. 👍
I wish they would improve their 1/10 scale buggy!!
Dont we all! 💯😎
The biggest problem with the hard cases is that you're meant to either leave them fully charged or fully uncharged, because you can't storage charge it.
If only they included a banace cable with the battery, it'd shut people like us up.
I find a velcro strap anchored to the battery clip works AOK for holding standard batteries. I've got a 25mm wide strap that wraps longways.
There's not a balance plug on the same end as the battery connector? A cheap balance cable extender will remedy that if it does.🤷🏾♂️
But that's for advanced users who already have better lipo chargers...
@@VDVC-RC yep, they should include that $2 cable. its not something even people with hobby chargers have. But the novice storing their battery at either 0% or 100% can't be safe or good for the battery
These are aimed at novices, so I totally get your point, but it really depends on where the lvc Is set.
I highly doubt it, but these could actually be smart batteries that "self discharge" 😂
Lemme go order one to test & review
@@VDVC-RC nobody really considered battery health on laptops, a cynic could say its to sell more batteries. Only now in road cars is battery life becoming a selling point.
But the old mjx trucks had "smart" batteries that could show you charge. It was one step towards storage charging. And they had this annoying clip.
But yeah I'd be happy with the $2 cable
If the USB chargers they supplied had detachable balance cables that you could use with your own balance charger, problem solved, no extra cable required
the great thing about wltoys is theyre cheap and they listen to their customers which is super rare now days. the thing i wish they would do is get an 1/8 scale buggy and then take their 10th scale and get themm track ready as much as possible and give us premium parts to buy so people can start racing for way cheaper than currently. I have a feeling these guys are gonna be the next traxxas and arma honestly because they put out some awesome stuff for starters or people with smaller budgets.
Rlaarlo has a sale on their 1/14 brushed rtr for $99 at the moment. About the same price as the wltoys 144001 but with much better quality and 99% interchangeable parts between both platforms.
Not sure where you get your information from but this company does not listen to their customers. Very far from it. If they would listen to the customers they'd be top-notch top dog right now. WL toys are going downhill. If they listen to the customers they wouldn't put brushed motors in their newer vehicles. And we wouldn't have to complain about oil-filled shocks they would just put friction shocks on it. If they didn't complain about this car this car would have came with friction shocks.
I needed that, I needed a mount for a 36-something brushless motor.
My 124008 is modded (2840 to 2958 4480kv on 3s) . I put a new 120a esc on the battery side and I needed to fit a tab to keep the battery from sliding in the steering linkage that is facing backwards. The tires are good but don't last very long, the shock towers are weak and I need to throw away the servo saver it's stripped. Other than that I'm happy with it good platform for a low price imo.
That is awesome to hear!
How did you go? I have a 124019 I converted to brushless and was going to make a speedrun car but it snapped a rear axle and I could never find the exact replacement part for it, I got sick of looking at it today and ordered one of these and am wondering how much luck people had upgrading/fitting the parts. I plan on putting a Surpass 3650, Ezrun Max10 and a 100c 4s CHNL drone battery in it and see how it goes against my 6s Typhon just on the road.
They have stiff competition. I don't think they appreciate that consumers have a better appreciation of what they want then they did just a couple years ago in this segment of the market. We're still seeing all of them playing games with the quality of components and it's up to reviewers like you to dig down into the details to bring value to these reviews. What is sorely being neglected is the quality of the components. Just to say it has a metal gearbox doesn't state the quality of metal which they have varying qualities; sintered, zinc etc.. Looking at a transmitters how well do they perform? What distance can be obtained? How much latency is there? Do they accept LiPo's? I think many of us could give a short list of what should be covered in a review that really exposes the value differences between these models.
I fully appreciate your views on this. As a creator its tough. People want short, sharp and straight to the point over in depth breakdowns. People simply get bored these days which makes it incredibly hard to create such an in depth video without losing people. This is why me and a lot of channels cover the essentials then move straight on. Some channels do the move in depth stuff which is a great service to the hobby but again its rare) Truth is at this budget level i dont think most people care about the quality of metals. If its cheap they will buy it. Sad but true.
@@beyondRC I'd just flash up a score sheet at the end of the video. The criteria between these variations are sadly predictable but require tear down and investigation. Likely a result of using many of the same suppliers for components. The results often come down to their choice of going top shelf or bottom shelf in their component selection and where they decide they can get away with cutting a corner. Lately there's been a move to rework ESC firmware to remove 3S support even though many reviewers receive versions that will support 3S. Makes me think they are sugaring the samples with better components or don't expect them to fail in the time it takes to make a review. Reviewers seems to be getting 3S supported firmware and the purchased units come with a warning label 2S only with firmware that falls flat when it sees 3S voltage. Wltoys is one manufacturer that is doing this.
bs, they only have one or two s3 models, their 35a electric on other base isnt suited for 3s, it says so in the manual, not a scam kidd, go bark up aother tree@@necro_nemesis
The 144010 is the best cheap car there is without a doubt. The delay problems are fixed by changing the receiver and remote control, thanks friend!!!
I was hoping they would have used this chassis and stuck the electronics from the 124017 in it. All my batteries are 2s while the 124010 and the 124008 would be terribly slow on 2s with their smaller motors.
3500 550 is small? mkay, it will destoy a lot of stock kitcars tbh
Just another reminiscence of boring 124019... I have mine locked in the glass display collecting dust. The ESC will turn super hot after 10 min of run... This one the electronics look identical to 124019... cliche body,
You're right, WLTOYS never learned from their mistakes... They're literally moving backwards... Very sad for them.
Would be nice to see them come up with something new, or more outstanding from the crowd.
But props to them for listening to the feedback and putting oiled shocks on before sending them out 😅
Hello Master, do You think that CVDs and dog bone will fit to 124019 and other? I'll be grateful for answer... Great video as always...Have a nice day.
I would like to think so but dont know for sure!
This is the one you get if you really wanted a roller to put your own electronics in...
The price point is perfect for that.
Agreed. I'm surprised a 560 motor can fit in there perfectly, so I'll definitely mess around and see what combo's I can fit on it. I just hope the motor mount will fit with any standard brushless motors out there
@@OCTEXRCsomeone out there made a carbon fiber motor mount.
If this thing is in the under 3lbs weight range, a 26mm canned brushless motor will be plenty of umph for a basher. Especially if it's properly geared.
The rest of the drivetrain seems pretty robust too.
buy mjx new m series.. it's got it all and so much value for money.. wltoys has lost it long ago
I'm a complete beginner, bought a hyper go 14210 and been playing with it for about 2 weeks. Bought this wltoys 124010 because the hyper go has too much power for me and its dificult to control. Also, because found it for 70€ with 2 s2 bateries. I hope this one is easier to control and will give me an easier time to learn TT circuits
Good video. I really wish they would go bigger with their buggies though! They look so good
I have the 124016 V2 (blue wheel) and rirnr also problems with the control, at least 20% of the throttle does nothing and then accelerates.
The first wltoys I bought was the 12429 and I had no luck with it, many problems with electronics just having bought it
v2 is the old version, they using v8 remotes now, replacement is like 25$
It,s a mix of wl toys and Mjx Hyper Go, the body shell IS nice but the electronic is better 124008
Where is that location looks great. Colchester bike park is a great spot. CO30JT. What days do uz you meet up for a bash. Great video.
This is galleywood common. Will check that out too! We go out various days mate send me an email with your number beyondrc1@gmail.com and i will give you a shout on the next one.
@beyondRC Yea I heard of that place. Was checking that out on maps the other day. Everything is on Facebook nowadays and I don't want it, problem is I can't find anyone to run without Facebook. Just over me local park on my own playing with a toy car 🚗 lol Looked at ARC Colchester and it's mainly 1/8 -1/5. I only have and MT10 atm.
Keep up the great work 👍
Hello friend, could you review the Hsp Xstr pro or Xeme Pro? thank you
I really dont like the hard case batteries. Now i just learned that you need hard case batteries to compete in ec racing
Im very new to rc. About 6 months now. I have two wltoys 144 series that i do really enjoy but im sick of buying parts for them. Im waiting in a Rlaarlo AMX12 roller to show up that im sure ill be much happier with.
yes rlaaro doesnt break LOL
all made in china bro
@ohhi5237 rlaarlo has been flawless for 4 months now. I now have three.
CORALLY KAGAMA Review?
Hopefully Rochester Rc sets you up.
Got myself MT10 V2 and told them Beyond Rc was why I was there.
Excellent shop would highly recommend, great customer service 👌
Quite possibly mate. It seems Corally themselves have been distant with me after my somewhat negative reviews about their cars/parts availability but oh well haha! Rochester RC are a great bunch and we do have some great stuff lined up!
@@beyondRC Excellent can't wait.
Brilliant video mate nice price too for a beginner who haven't ran rc cars before. But I parsley would go for 144010 because its brushless system thus one is only brushed which is no good has its a lot slower to me 😊😊😮
144010 is a great alternative as well as, hbx 901a, MJX hyper go. All in this price range! Cheers
I have the 144010 brushless and 144001 brushed. The brushed version is cheaper and honestly more fun to drive. If you wanna do speed runs the 144010 is better but you will upgrade it sooner than you expect. Moror upgrade are very limited with the brushless setup but motor mounts are cheap and plentiful. Regardless, order more tires as mine didn't survive two batteries and the cvds and dogbones as they tend to bend just from looking at them. Grease the diffs or never one will run properly.
You got a really nice looking buggy with an MJX tough chassis nice oil filled shocks It looks badass and then you go around and put a freaking brushed motor in it. That's the dumbest thing that I ever seen. They could have hit this one out of the ballpark but they put a brushed motor in it. Whoever's doing the thinking for WL toys they're not thinking very well. Cuz this could have been a winner all round winter. All they would have had to do was put a nice brushless engine in it and this would have been a killer buggy.
The brushless with this body and adjustable turn buckles would take the prize
How the hell am I supposed to get the Hypergo truggy? Banggood doesn't have anymore.
AliExpress?
Can they be trusted?@@beyondRC
I think it is kind of funny that everyone jumped on Wl toys for putting friction shocks on their latest buggy, but nobody ever jumps on tamiya or traxxas because most of their cars also come with friction shocks, and some traxxas, and latrax cars come with friction shocks.
It was out of the norm that's why. Pretty much every wltoys release has had oil shocks. Tamiya is to be expected. Almost all of them are from the 80s. La trax is very low level again so it doesn't surprise me. No new cheap RC car should ever have friction shocks.
I still prefer original clone chassis and honestly prefer Rlaarlo's take on it over Wltoys...
I'm a fan of this buggy but this is Basically the same price as the 124008 Brushless version, apart from the better looking body shell it Seems a bit pointless.
this new buggy makes me say bruh every time i look at it
cool looking car,great review
Ohh mate, this company had an amazing chance and completely blew it, and continue to blow it ??? Everyone I know just won't invest anymore! However great review mate and as always thanks for your upload 👍🙏🐱
I know! They have had many chances to create something new and innovative but all we see is them stepping back instead of forward, new bodies, new transmitters but never any new designs or ideas. Just the same old..
@@beyondRCThe tone of your voice at the end of almost every sentence always sound like your complaining (and asking a question at the same time), even when you are not doing that.
I know ppl try to "add personality" to the vids, but then it gets in the way of unemotional analysis of the product (thus to put personality in some other way).
@@lyricofwise6894 easy solution. Don’t watch. Plenty of RC channels around 😊👍
I have the 124008 and a Hyper 8.5 Nitro buggy all your fault lol 😂😂😂 great cars though 👌
Can i put a wltoys motor in a tt02 ?
i dont see why not..
I can understand it's not bad idea cheaper Chinese models but not really hobbyists grade unless you upgrade. It may get few people back into the hobby in long run maybe. I'm not a fan of plastic chassis metal chassis plate was lot better.👍
Wl toys are better than alot out there but hbx is way better imo, some bigger scales like 1/10 and better still 1/8 from these tiny rc car makers would be awesome, i mean emagin having a hbx 2995 1/8 scale right ??? 😍👌
👏🏻
MJX already stop their proprietary hard casing batt of their early version yet WLtoys actually copied their early mistake and put it in new models! Just get a MJX new series or HBX which had nothing broke after months of bashing. Also all my Wltoys i had will break something on every run..
I agree with this
Save 15 dollars from the brushless version??😂😂😂 15 dollars for electronics which would cost more than 3 times to upgrade!😂😂😂
It will have a HUGE SUCCESS!🤭🤭😂🤭😂🤭
Valid point and worth the extra!
I have/had almost all 'hobby grade' wl toys rc's.. And they were all crap-ish.. Metal parts that bend with hand, tolerances are crap, cheap plastic.. So, it is better to save some money and buy something of better quality, you will have less frustrations and more fun...
Theres better options at this price point, like hbx.
The transmitters for this one is fine for me as compared to the small cramped handle transmitters that beyondrc recommending wltoys used to have.
The battery may not be a as big deal as he makes it too, just use other soft pack batteries. The electronics I agree are no good tho.
Just paid 70usd for one
bargain
I fortunately my idea to put a phat bodies Raptor body on this has hit two brick walls....nr1 taxation and fees due to Brexit....nr 2 only eu retailer is french and does not ship outside france
Brushed 🤢🤢🤢🤢
First
Looks a bit s#%t
hahaha