@@Hungrybird474 Have you considered a Kyosho Blizzard, and it's many, many mods and upgrades? I enjoy plowing my walkway from the living room! 🤣 Hahaha, I live in WA so I can't be bothered with weather stopping me from playing with rc's! One way and another, I will go play RC something!
Winter won't stop me cause I put my cam on my 1/5th Scale crawler that has paddles and and it has a mic also night vision and I watch on my 120" tv and rome around in my yard late at night I keep my lights off till a pack of coyotes came up to it I have a train horn hook to it with lights and flashing lights with siren and man did the coyotes take off fast. I'm lucky they didn't take off with my R/C but I have GPS it's got Tracker on it with my controller that tells me temp speed how many miles how much more time I have till she runs for. And signal. Trying to add more options to the crawler to find people in Small structures a heat sink. And if anyone has any ideas please comate
First thing I do when getting a car with friction shocks is change them out before I even run it. It is not wise to cheap out on the shocks because they affect performance almost as much as the electronics.
For sure but when a competitor has already made a brushless truck with great drivetrain, cool powerful outrunner system, better looks and most importantly cheaper.. is there any point! (JJRC C8811)
I own the JJRC, but just thinking of a purely modification standpoint what advantages the WLToys might have. Brushless and oil shock swap this and would it perform any better than the JJRC?
Yep exactly what i thought too when i saw these on Banggood a couple weeks ago Mike, its just a refresh of that old Wltoys 1/20, nothing new here really. I remember doing a Gearbest giveaway of the original 20402 back in 2017 or 2018 on my channel.
Brother, I wouldn’t get upset about the whole “WLToys” issue they have going, just be happy about the fact that you are doing absolutely great videos showing the the negatives and positives about all RCs regardless of whether you received it to do a video or you paid for it because I can tell you that 99,99% of viewers love and appreciate your honesty regardless the company that particular RC vehicle comes from and I personally appreciate your down right “Brutal Honesty “ which is rare in a lot of RC RUclips videos channels. I get really upset when I see RUclipsrs praising RC vehicles that are downright absolute garbage and yet they’re trying their best to avoid making any negative comments on the RC they are supposed to be reviewing meanwhile they’re not really reviewing it but basically doing an “AD” for that particular RC. That really upsets me because they aren’t really being honest, they are just promoting an RC because they know they’re getting a decent size “Kickback” for doing it and they like to say that they’re being honest? Anyways, the last 1/20th scale mini truck basher that you had on your channel ( the little black one, I think it was JJRC) was super and I ended up purchasing 5 of them. I originally purchased 1 and after I saw your video I went and got 4 more. I’ve disassembled all of them and cleaned the diffs up added a little diff fluid to all the diffs, I cleaned all the oil shocks and added 35wt oil in all the shocks and added a drop of oil to all the joints and they are amazing little trucks and the servos actually have servo savers on them. But anyways I’ve gotten into so many arguments with other RUclipsrs who like to boast about certain RCs when the particular one they are “Reviewing” is total hot garbage and everyone knows it and it’s been proven over and over by legitimate RUclipsrs who are responsible and honest about their reviews. Brother I love and appreciate your honesty and your videos and I look forward to your next videos. As far as “Are 1/20th scale RCs wanted and appreciated”? That’s a definite YES! It’s nice to have an option to run some RCs indoors (especially if the weather is bad) or like in my situation my wife is terminally ill and I want and need to be by her side as quickly as possible also she spends most of the time in bed because she cannot walk so it’s nice to be able to have several small scale RCs so she can run them with me indoors. We have a large flat roof that we use as a patio but it’s fairly large so I can run 1/10,1/12,1/14,1/16 and smaller on the roof and I won’t be miles away from her, so yes smaller scale RCs are definitely a great size to have fun with. But thank you from my wife and I for all your absolutely great content and honesty. It is greatly deeply appreciated from the heart.🙂❤️👍💯
I totally agree with you I don't even consider a RC at all if they haven't got oil filled shocks me personally 1/20 bit small for me I normally look at 1/16 and above but with winter coming maybe a small drift car is needed lol😂
I really enjoy my 1/18 crawlers, but after having built several and not using them very much, I wouldn't recommend getting more than 2 of them (1 for you, 1 for a friend to use). For anything fast, I can't see why going small is any benefit. Initial cost maybe but it's still going to cost to upgrade. I personally don't see enough parts support for "budget" RCs. So I've avoided them and stuck to whatever Horizon has in the lineups.
I love a little RC car. The HBX 16889 is a brilliant little truck, as was the A979, back in the day!! Admitty, that had friction shocks, but with that huge 540 motor, it was fast, and durable, and an upgrade for the shocks was only £15!! Why the hell would they put them on this?!! It's almost like they're committing commercial suicide!! That body really looks like the A979, too!! The market is so flooded with cars at the moment, you have to do something special to get noticed, but this gets noticed for all the wrong reasons, in my opinion. Whatever that's worth! 🤷🏻♂️🤗
great video my friend. i agree with you, it depends on your application with minis. im dissapointed in the mini maxx but not the ROG 1, its actually been pretty fun with the shock value of it. havent done anything with my arrma typhon grom yet. keep up the great vids bro.
Rlaarlo isn’t considered a low budget RC brand any longer… the are just real well priced beasts. In my opinion 😳. WL Toys is putting out junk nowadays…
I have mixed feelings about this... Agreed this truck is a "me too" and there are other options for a "grab and go" R/C, even some of WLToys earlier models. Friction shocks aren't necessarily a deal-breaker for me, I still love my FMS Toyota FJ Cruiser, and that came with friction shocks. At the same token it does seems like WLToys cheaped out and cut corners they shouldn't have. That's where they lost the plot. I think this is an either put a better suspension and power combo on the truck even if it costs slightly more, or keep it as-is but only charge $50 USD max for it.
small scale cars are good for beginners i am not a beginner but the mojave grom is awsome put it in your backpack and you will have a lot of spectaters when you have to wait but for bashing for me is 1/12th very good less weight then 1 10th so less enursia by landing mostly with 1 10th parts sometimes
I love your review videos. You aren't here to blow smoke up our @$$3$, and you aren't bought and paid for by rc company (x). I agree whole-heartedly with your assessment of WLToys. I am a big fan of their 12428 (9, 7, etc), and their A979B. However, you will pay double to upgrade them to what you want them to be, and at that point, there are several other options that are already 'upgraded' in comparison to the stock WLToys. I will keep the 3 or 4 WLToys that I have, and parts to keep them going, but I haven't seen anything they've done since those two that has my interest, this included. Honestly, the small scale stuff is so common and prevalent these days, that 1/10 is becoming a 'rarer' size. I am more interested in 1/10, and bigger, though, they are very expensive, there are also awesome, cheaper alternatives that are gaining a lot of notoriety. Thank you for your honesty, I didn't hear griping or whining, I heard honest opinions about a company that have been said for their entire run. You are easily one of my favorite 3 reviewers, and I appreciate what you do!
Wish they would do what they used to do with the a959 etc series... At least put shocks on that can accept oil in them so the customer can add it.. I really don't understand why they went backwards
Right now I think it’s overkill. The minis have their place and appeal. I have a couple minis and they’re super fun to drive in the basement during winter. But it’s just getting to be a bit much all these companies flooding the market with them.
Everytime I drive my 1/8 scale Arrma , lil cars ? totally worthless , I have those too . There cheap & fun in driveway or tile floor . I do dream of a brushless WLT 989 rtr . A leap from 13 to 25 mph ? !!
"asking for years for WLToys to give their trucks proper names" Be careful of what you wish for. WLToys would call their trucks "Headphones" "Sir Speedmouse" "ZoonElephant "TackleMackacaine" "Boonswoggle" And other memorable, classic names. I wouldn't trust them to name a swamp. They aren't good with words. 🐹🐹🐹🐹🐹🐹
I have experienced some which totally are and shouldn’t have even been made. This came close don’t get me wrong it’s okay but lacking in almost every area
You needed to grow up in the 80's where a $50 RC had a NiMH pack that took 8 hours to charge so that you could play with it for 8 minutes. Non proportional steering. Or maybe how about the ones that could only turn when you drove backwards? Plenty of RCs are a waste of time.
@@Boogie_the_cat I was born in 1970, I remember every car I had, and every car I built, some of the cars I had you had to reverse to turn the car right or left, As a kid, It was tons of fun, with a collection of over 75 cars, from very high end, to low end, they are very fun to me.
Hope you never paid for that thing lol. Agreed I bought the wltoys V2 124016 which is still a great car. Shortly after they started to go downhill. So many better options
Big let down with this one. I personally think that mini rc’s are indeed a waste of time. I’ve found anything smaller than 1/10 scale doesn’t handle the best, lands jumps poorly and is just simply underwhelming. I haven’t tried any 1/12 scale rigs though.
@@grahamjacob710 that’s the funny thing I don’t think wltoys do any research or take not from reviewers. I know lots of rc brands who watch reviews and learn from them and what the community are saying. Wltoys just don’t seem to care about anyone’s opinion and throw constant rubbish out the factory door. One time they got it right with the 144001 and since then it’s been a disaster
@@beyondRC I remember the days when RUclips was having a serge of videos of everyone pushing their products to 100mph. Seems that nothing they release now would push to half that speed. That's the saddest part.
@beyondRC That's how see it. Kev Talbot is wrong they are not all toys. Only the mini rc's are (kids?) toys. The bigger scale stuff are serious (adults) performance models.
All rc's are to be honest, it's just more towards more responsible adults with a higher budget. Like i wouldn't give an Arrma outcast on 6s brushless power to a beginner that has had a toy grade rc car or two for 70$ at best & a wltoys 1:18th scale that lasted them all of 10 minutes before they end up crashing into the curb hard breaking the front a arm & it getting tossed into the trash because they have no sense of direction or awareness of how much space it covers.
@@Lander76 Theres toy grade rc, and theres hobby grade rc toy. And a ferrari/lambo, a swimming pool, video games, or a grill. Or a sport (game). Etc. Etc., theyre all toys
@@Mini-z1994Ya its hobby grade which requires adulting lol; its more expensive than video games, and actually very easy to be irresponsible with it thus dangerous (lipo, li-ion batteries), and requires power tools to do much faster fixing and upgrading.
WLToys, can you name your vehicles? Nope. Well can you at least tone down the color schemes? Also nope. What if you don't put lights on a monster truck? Not gonna do that either. Anything else we can not do for you?? 😂😂 But sir, how dare you even pose that question about mini RCs?? 😂 The mini world has come so far and they are so fun! ...Just not this one...
Another Failure from WLTOYS?
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60 year old man here. I enjoy the smaller scales NOW for running indoors. 3 fms smashers,1 fms land cruiser and 1 roc hobby magnum. All RC's are toys😊
Yeah , the running season has mostly ended in NE USA . It’s cold and wet atm and stays wet for months
@@Hungrybird474 Have you considered a Kyosho Blizzard, and it's many, many mods and upgrades? I enjoy plowing my walkway from the living room! 🤣
Hahaha, I live in WA so I can't be bothered with weather stopping me from playing with rc's! One way and another, I will go play RC something!
Winter won't stop me cause I put my cam on my 1/5th Scale crawler that has paddles and and it has a mic also night vision and I watch on my 120" tv and rome around in my yard late at night I keep my lights off till a pack of coyotes came up to it I have a train horn hook to it with lights and flashing lights with siren and man did the coyotes take off fast. I'm lucky they didn't take off with my R/C but I have GPS it's got Tracker on it with my controller that tells me temp speed how many miles how much more time I have till she runs for. And signal. Trying to add more options to the crawler to find people in
Small structures a heat sink. And if anyone has any ideas please comate
First thing I do when getting a car with friction shocks is change them out before I even run it. It is not wise to cheap out on the shocks because they affect performance almost as much as the electronics.
I agree
Except the Tamiya Lunchbox. 😂
Yeah , shocks and tires
Imo if you want a solid mini or micro the fms colarado 1,/24th scale is a great quality mini basher
My kids love the brite colors.
That motor looks huge in this! Should be easy to get a decent sized brushless can in there and make it fun.
For sure but when a competitor has already made a brushless truck with great drivetrain, cool powerful outrunner system, better looks and most importantly cheaper.. is there any point! (JJRC C8811)
I own the JJRC, but just thinking of a purely modification standpoint what advantages the WLToys might have. Brushless and oil shock swap this and would it perform any better than the JJRC?
This model is just a reboot of the WLTOYS 20402 (1/20 ONWARD) they released 6 years ago. I did a video review on my channel.
Yep exactly what i thought too when i saw these on Banggood a couple weeks ago Mike, its just a refresh of that old Wltoys 1/20, nothing new here really. I remember doing a Gearbest giveaway of the original 20402 back in 2017 or 2018 on my channel.
@@PERTHWESTOZRC 100% David!
Brother, I wouldn’t get upset about the whole “WLToys” issue they have going, just be happy about the fact that you are doing absolutely great videos showing the the negatives and positives about all RCs regardless of whether you received it to do a video or you paid for it because I can tell you that 99,99% of viewers love and appreciate your honesty regardless the company that particular RC vehicle comes from and I personally appreciate your down right “Brutal Honesty “ which is rare in a lot of RC RUclips videos channels. I get really upset when I see RUclipsrs praising RC vehicles that are downright absolute garbage and yet they’re trying their best to avoid making any negative comments on the RC they are supposed to be reviewing meanwhile they’re not really reviewing it but basically doing an “AD” for that particular RC. That really upsets me because they aren’t really being honest, they are just promoting an RC because they know they’re getting a decent size “Kickback” for doing it and they like to say that they’re being honest? Anyways, the last 1/20th scale mini truck basher that you had on your channel ( the little black one, I think it was JJRC) was super and I ended up purchasing 5 of them. I originally purchased 1 and after I saw your video I went and got 4 more. I’ve disassembled all of them and cleaned the diffs up added a little diff fluid to all the diffs, I cleaned all the oil shocks and added 35wt oil in all the shocks and added a drop of oil to all the joints and they are amazing little trucks and the servos actually have servo savers on them. But anyways I’ve gotten into so many arguments with other RUclipsrs who like to boast about certain RCs when the particular one they are “Reviewing” is total hot garbage and everyone knows it and it’s been proven over and over by legitimate RUclipsrs who are responsible and honest about their reviews. Brother I love and appreciate your honesty and your videos and I look forward to your next videos. As far as “Are 1/20th scale RCs wanted and appreciated”? That’s a definite YES! It’s nice to have an option to run some RCs indoors (especially if the weather is bad) or like in my situation my wife is terminally ill and I want and need to be by her side as quickly as possible also she spends most of the time in bed because she cannot walk so it’s nice to be able to have several small scale RCs so she can run them with me indoors. We have a large flat roof that we use as a patio but it’s fairly large so I can run 1/10,1/12,1/14,1/16 and smaller on the roof and I won’t be miles away from her, so yes smaller scale RCs are definitely a great size to have fun with. But thank you from my wife and I for all your absolutely great content and honesty. It is greatly deeply appreciated from the heart.🙂❤️👍💯
I have a HPI Savage XS. And its the perfect mini scale. 1/10 wheels but with a smaller chassi.
Love the honesty!!!!
I totally agree with you I don't even consider a RC at all if they haven't got oil filled shocks me personally 1/20 bit small for me I normally look at 1/16 and above but with winter coming maybe a small drift car is needed lol😂
I really enjoy my 1/18 crawlers, but after having built several and not using them very much, I wouldn't recommend getting more than 2 of them (1 for you, 1 for a friend to use). For anything fast, I can't see why going small is any benefit. Initial cost maybe but it's still going to cost to upgrade. I personally don't see enough parts support for "budget" RCs. So I've avoided them and stuck to whatever Horizon has in the lineups.
Totally agree.!! 👍 👍 👍
well done for trying your hardest to find something good to say about it, but its just not gonna sell in any numbers
I love a little RC car. The HBX 16889 is a brilliant little truck, as was the A979, back in the day!!
Admitty, that had friction shocks, but with that huge 540 motor, it was fast, and durable, and an upgrade for the shocks was only £15!!
Why the hell would they put them on this?!! It's almost like they're committing commercial suicide!! That body really looks like the A979, too!!
The market is so flooded with cars at the moment, you have to do something special to get noticed, but this gets noticed for all the wrong reasons, in my opinion. Whatever that's worth! 🤷🏻♂️🤗
I agree any new minis need to be very good to stand out
great video my friend. i agree with you, it depends on your application with minis. im dissapointed in the mini maxx but not the ROG 1, its actually been pretty fun with the shock value of it. havent done anything with my arrma typhon grom yet. keep up the great vids bro.
Rlaarlo isn’t considered a low budget RC brand any longer… the are just real well priced beasts. In my opinion 😳. WL Toys is putting out junk nowadays…
I have mixed feelings about this... Agreed this truck is a "me too" and there are other options for a "grab and go" R/C, even some of WLToys earlier models. Friction shocks aren't necessarily a deal-breaker for me, I still love my FMS Toyota FJ Cruiser, and that came with friction shocks. At the same token it does seems like WLToys cheaped out and cut corners they shouldn't have. That's where they lost the plot. I think this is an either put a better suspension and power combo on the truck even if it costs slightly more, or keep it as-is but only charge $50 USD max for it.
I would say it’s a $30-40 rc car at max 🥴
wltoys a979 was best little car my all time fav
Dang that car has alot of problems but i still love em 😂
I enjoy my 1/28 scales just as much as my 1/5
small scale cars are good for beginners i am not a beginner but the mojave grom is awsome put it in your backpack and you will have a lot of spectaters when you have to wait
but for bashing for me is 1/12th very good
less weight then 1 10th so less enursia by landing
mostly with 1 10th parts sometimes
124016 v2 was the last best wltoys in my opinion
I like the hbx 16890SA and a cf Omni terminator but I have the hbx s to my family
I love your review videos. You aren't here to blow smoke up our @$$3$, and you aren't bought and paid for by rc company (x).
I agree whole-heartedly with your assessment of WLToys. I am a big fan of their 12428 (9, 7, etc), and their A979B. However, you will pay double to upgrade them to what you want them to be, and at that point, there are several other options that are already 'upgraded' in comparison to the stock WLToys.
I will keep the 3 or 4 WLToys that I have, and parts to keep them going, but I haven't seen anything they've done since those two that has my interest, this included.
Honestly, the small scale stuff is so common and prevalent these days, that 1/10 is becoming a 'rarer' size.
I am more interested in 1/10, and bigger, though, they are very expensive, there are also awesome, cheaper alternatives that are gaining a lot of notoriety.
Thank you for your honesty, I didn't hear griping or whining, I heard honest opinions about a company that have been said for their entire run.
You are easily one of my favorite 3 reviewers, and I appreciate what you do!
Very much appreciated. Thank you
Wish they would do what they used to do with the a959 etc series... At least put shocks on that can accept oil in them so the customer can add it.. I really don't understand why they went backwards
Many times more power just isn't better. Especially when it's small. 😅
Right now I think it’s overkill. The minis have their place and appeal. I have a couple minis and they’re super fun to drive in the basement during winter. But it’s just getting to be a bit much all these companies flooding the market with them.
WL-Toys still resting on their laurels it seems.Shame as I give them credit for getting back into rc with the 144001.
Everytime I drive my 1/8 scale Arrma , lil cars ? totally worthless , I have those too . There cheap & fun in driveway or tile floor . I do dream of a brushless WLT 989 rtr . A leap from 13
to 25 mph ? !!
"asking for years for WLToys to give their trucks proper names"
Be careful of what you wish for. WLToys would call their trucks "Headphones"
"Sir Speedmouse"
"ZoonElephant
"TackleMackacaine"
"Boonswoggle"
And other memorable, classic names.
I wouldn't trust them to name a swamp.
They aren't good with words.
🐹🐹🐹🐹🐹🐹
LOL
gimmick i can only have a few rcs so im not going to waste space on a mini...
No RC cars are a waste of time
I have experienced some which totally are and shouldn’t have even been made. This came close don’t get me wrong it’s okay but lacking in almost every area
You needed to grow up in the 80's where a $50 RC had a NiMH pack that took 8 hours to charge so that you could play with it for 8 minutes.
Non proportional steering. Or maybe how about the ones that could only turn when you drove backwards?
Plenty of RCs are a waste of time.
@@Boogie_the_cat I was born in 1970, I remember every car I had, and every car I built, some of the cars I had you had to reverse to turn the car right or left, As a kid, It was tons of fun, with a collection of over 75 cars, from very high end, to low end, they are very fun to me.
@@Boogie_the_cat I remember those in the 90s & earlier 2000s
It gose 10 mph faster that the jj not bat its because the gear ratio if it was brushless it would probably go 45
Hope you never paid for that thing lol. Agreed I bought the wltoys V2 124016 which is still a great car. Shortly after they started to go downhill. So many better options
No it was a review sample 👍😂
Good lol. Great honest opinion. All RC cars oil shocks and brushless. Not this other crap.
Hey, if you really don't like this truck, send it to me !!
I'll give it a good forever home !!
🥰
Don't agree with your opinion for the color . And the new armma kraton prove you wrong also..
I think the new arrmas look terrible well the notorious looks good 😬
Poor little car! 🤣🤣🤣
Big let down with this one. I personally think that mini rc’s are indeed a waste of time. I’ve found anything smaller than 1/10 scale doesn’t handle the best, lands jumps poorly and is just simply underwhelming. I haven’t tried any 1/12 scale rigs though.
I find 1/10 and 1/12 to be the sweet spot between portability and usability
It's funny how you say wltoys doesn't listen to anyone. You've slated most of their releases for some time now and they still send them to you😂😂
Banggood sent me this not wltoys 😉
@beyondRC interesting but surely none of them are watching your videos.
@@grahamjacob710 that’s the funny thing I don’t think wltoys do any research or take not from reviewers. I know lots of rc brands who watch reviews and learn from them and what the community are saying. Wltoys just don’t seem to care about anyone’s opinion and throw constant rubbish out the factory door. One time they got it right with the 144001 and since then it’s been a disaster
@@beyondRC I remember the days when RUclips was having a serge of videos of everyone pushing their products to 100mph. Seems that nothing they release now would push to half that speed. That's the saddest part.
Mini rc's = toys
Are all rc cars not toys? 😉
@beyondRC That's how see it. Kev Talbot is wrong they are not all toys. Only the mini rc's are (kids?) toys. The bigger scale stuff are serious (adults) performance models.
All rc's are to be honest, it's just more towards more responsible adults with a higher budget.
Like i wouldn't give an Arrma outcast on 6s brushless power to a beginner that has had a toy grade rc car or two for 70$ at best & a wltoys 1:18th scale that lasted them all of 10 minutes before they end up crashing into the curb hard breaking the front a arm & it getting tossed into the trash because they have no sense of direction or awareness of how much space it covers.
@@Lander76 Theres toy grade rc, and theres hobby grade rc toy.
And a ferrari/lambo, a swimming pool, video games, or a grill. Or a sport (game). Etc. Etc., theyre all toys
@@Mini-z1994Ya its hobby grade which requires adulting lol; its more expensive than video games, and actually very easy to be irresponsible with it thus dangerous (lipo, li-ion batteries), and requires power tools to do much faster fixing and upgrading.
WLToys, can you name your vehicles?
Nope.
Well can you at least tone down the color schemes?
Also nope.
What if you don't put lights on a monster truck?
Not gonna do that either. Anything else we can not do for you?? 😂😂
But sir, how dare you even pose that question about mini RCs?? 😂 The mini world has come so far and they are so fun! ...Just not this one...
Ehh.
Wow that thing is ugly ! I mean the wltoys that is …. Or do I ?
Thanks for the very honest review .
hahahaha!!! Cheers mate
The review is about as exciting as the truck. Why keep reviewing garbage when you know it's garbage?
Why are you subbed? You for real? Do you know what reviews are for? To prevent people from wasting their money… unsub if you don’t like my channel. 👍
WL have lost the plot.
They are pretty lame in my experience.
Just L toys…
This car is a joke
Another failure...