I visited the Cutty Sark almost every year before the tragedy. I moved abroad when I heard about the fire and the news was upsetting. I am very glad it got restored and who cares if it is a replica. This ship is an important historic heritage and a beautiful one at that.
Castles, churches, train, ships. Everything that wears out is replaced over the years. Whether stones or wooden planks. The fact that not everything is original anymore does not make it a replica.
Every ship of that nature was or is in the same situation. The keel was the first part of the ship laid and makes it the ship, since all other structures are built from it. If it had a new keel then yes it would be a replica. However, the keel is original to my knowledge so the ship you see, despite having been repaired extensively, is still Cutty Sark
Perhaps they used salvageable bits that survived the fire but, still, sadly it's only a replica. I stood upon her decks in Dec 96 in awe (I'd have stayed longer but it was bone chilling cold & my mates were having beers in the nearby pub....).
You are wrong. Most old sailing ships were taken apart and put back together many times over their lives. Is the victory or constitution replicas?? They are symbols now and most of the woods has been replaced. The cutty sark while have less original wood than before the fire, still most likely retains more original wood than the aforementioned...
@@Anth230 Nah mate, replacement to maintain a thing is exactly that - replacing something in part that's otherwise still there as a whole & identity. It's not replacement when there's no longer anything to replace because in this case it was destroyed. Her original hull, decks, masts, rigging etc were in whole a tangible link to that past technology & as such a symbol of a now intangible cultural & economic history. Her provenance was intrinsically defined by her being original in manifest, i.e. 'as it is' of that time & as a whole. After all, say 50% of the Mona Lisa was destroyed & the Louvre replicated that lost 50% - would the 'restored' painting still be the Mona Lisa as we understand it to be today? I think not (same as Deckard rejected the new Rachael in Blade Runner 2049). At 1:02 it's quite obvious that she was more than just a 'fixer upper' after the fire; but, accepting on face value that there's some original content I'm ok with modifying my original comment from "it's only a replica" to "it's a replica built on salvaged original frames".
@@flyingdutchman810Baloney. Cutty Sark was a rare excellent example of a ship mostly original for it's time. Now it has maybe 20% original. If even that.... 😏
People on here saying "it's a replica" don't know what they're talking about. Go read the Wikipedia about the ship: "at least half of the "fabric" (timbers, etc.) of the ship had not been on site as it had been removed during the preservation work" before the fire happened.
nightlightabcd Not really, a lot of the original fittings and fixtures were removed before the fire, they did this so restoration work could progress without damaging them.
If it’s keel is still there it is the same ship no matter what you do, that was the first structure on the ship and it is what all the rest is built around. That is what makes it the ship.
I was gona go see it in London and I felt bad about not seeing it. But now that I know it burned down I really don't care.. We have older boats in the harbour here..
Today, the USS Texas was moved from her moorings to begin a $35M overhaul. $75M for a wooden clipper ship.... yowza... they spared no expense. And also, consider that is $75M in 2012 dollars vs $35M in 2022 dollars.
Sad it's not seaworthy any more after that fire there was very little left, only 2 other ships are left in the world now, you can no longer count the Cutty Sark, City of Adelaide that is now in Adelaide Australia and is being renovated and Ambassador which is beached at Estancia San Gregorio Southern Chile and just a skeleton.
se-li-par = sandal Page 210 clipper = n 1 any fast sailing ship. 2 a person or thing that cuts or clips. i-par + du-ai = sister's husband or brother's wife
I visited the Cutty Sark almost every year before the tragedy. I moved abroad when I heard about the fire and the news was upsetting. I am very glad it got restored and who cares if it is a replica. This ship is an important historic heritage and a beautiful one at that.
If they basically completely rebuilt it then it’s not 140 years old.
Castles, churches, train, ships. Everything that wears out is replaced over the years. Whether stones or wooden planks. The fact that not everything is original anymore does not make it a replica.
@@Ramon73, -and it’s still not 140 years old
HMS Victory is the same, the only original is Unicorn at Dundee
Every ship of that nature was or is in the same situation. The keel was the first part of the ship laid and makes it the ship, since all other structures are built from it. If it had a new keel then yes it would be a replica. However, the keel is original to my knowledge so the ship you see, despite having been repaired extensively, is still Cutty Sark
@@benwilson6145The Cutty Sark was mostly original until the Fire. Now it's about what the Victory is...
Perhaps they used salvageable bits that survived the fire but, still, sadly it's only a replica. I stood upon her decks in Dec 96 in awe (I'd have stayed longer but it was bone chilling cold & my mates were having beers in the nearby pub....).
You are wrong. Most old sailing ships were taken apart and put back together many times over their lives. Is the victory or constitution replicas?? They are symbols now and most of the woods has been replaced. The cutty sark while have less original wood than before the fire, still most likely retains more original wood than the aforementioned...
@@Anth230 Nah mate, replacement to maintain a thing is exactly that - replacing something in part that's otherwise still there as a whole & identity. It's not replacement when there's no longer anything to replace because in this case it was destroyed. Her original hull, decks, masts, rigging etc were in whole a tangible link to that past technology & as such a symbol of a now intangible cultural & economic history.
Her provenance was intrinsically defined by her being original in manifest, i.e. 'as it is' of that time & as a whole. After all, say 50% of the Mona Lisa was destroyed & the Louvre replicated that lost 50% - would the 'restored' painting still be the Mona Lisa as we understand it to be today? I think not (same as Deckard rejected the new Rachael in Blade Runner 2049).
At 1:02 it's quite obvious that she was more than just a 'fixer upper' after the fire; but, accepting on face value that there's some original content I'm ok with modifying my original comment from "it's only a replica" to "it's a replica built on salvaged original frames".
But is it really even the same ship anymore after the fire wiped it out? Isn’t it basically a replica now?
@@flyingdutchman810Baloney. Cutty Sark was a rare excellent example of a ship mostly original for it's time. Now it has maybe 20% original. If even that.... 😏
People on here saying "it's a replica" don't know what they're talking about. Go read the Wikipedia about the ship: "at least half of the "fabric" (timbers, etc.) of the ship had not been on site as it had been removed during the preservation work" before the fire happened.
No information about the cause of the fire?
I need to visit the UK simply to see the museum ships
So, I guess it's a replica now.
nightlightabcd Not really, a lot of the original fittings and fixtures were removed before the fire, they did this so restoration work could progress without damaging them.
If it’s keel is still there it is the same ship no matter what you do, that was the first structure on the ship and it is what all the rest is built around. That is what makes it the ship.
The shame of this ship burning. Utter negligence. The rebuild is just that.
If your gonna restore it to that extent after a fire you might as well put it back in the water and sail it. LOL only like 30% is orginal
Fully Agreed. A ship out of water is useless.
Not even 30%, only the iron remains what wood was left was charred and had to replace, she is not seaworthy to be put back on water
I was gona go see it in London and I felt bad about not seeing it. But now that I know it burned down I really don't care.. We have older boats in the harbour here..
Nice to see it preserved. But I wish it was a seagoing enterprise. I know it's not possible due to costs
I suppose one static exhibit for the price of ten actual working boats is considered a good deal nowadays.
Today, the USS Texas was moved from her moorings to begin a $35M overhaul.
$75M for a wooden clipper ship.... yowza... they spared no expense. And also, consider that is $75M in 2012 dollars vs $35M in 2022 dollars.
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She’s not called the Cuddy Sark actually
Sad it's not seaworthy any more after that fire there was very little left, only 2 other ships are left in the world now, you can no longer count the Cutty Sark, City of Adelaide that is now in Adelaide Australia and is being renovated and Ambassador which is beached at Estancia San Gregorio Southern Chile and just a skeleton.
it’s definitely not 140 years old. way more like 5!
OMG I usto live at Kidbrooke and usto
ridé my Chopper there to see this and
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It used to bring tea from China, on the other side of the world.
se-li-par = sandal
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clipper = n 1 any fast sailing ship. 2 a person or thing that cuts or clips.
i-par + du-ai = sister's husband or brother's wife
Ahhhhhh love the English.. claim everything as the truth. 🤣😆🤣😆 even if it's a blatant lie! Just to good. Thanks for the chuckle guys!!!
What's a lie about it?
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All that money spent to rebuilt it and now is sitting dry. It belongs in the water that's how you preserve it.
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