Speaking of CGI, it is worth noting that when this movie came out in 2004, it was the first movie to render cloth and hair with any reasonable accuracy. Pixar had to develop for ground breaking computer software for this movie, just for rendering a natural look of cloth and how it moves. Today it is nothing special to render cloth realistically. Everyone can do it. But back in 2004, this was a major advancement.
In each Pixar movie, they push the envelope of what they can do with CGI. And they do something really hard that's never been done before. In Monsters, Inc., the really hard thing was animating Sully's fur. Each hair on his body had to move and flow realistically, which took a lot of computing power. In The Incredibles, it was Violet's long hair - it was a major project to make it move realistically.
@@PhilBagels Both Pixar and Disney do this. Tangled was the most expensive animated film ever and one of the most expensive films period ever. $260 million budget. Frozen they had to come up with a way to simulate snow realistically. Disney invented the material shader that is the industry standard, the principled BSDF shader. Pixar and Disney continually set themselves really high bars. Big Hero 6... the city of San Fransokyo was procedurally generated and they could literally go into any part of it for the film.
The reason Helen was worried or scared about dash being found out was that everytime they get found out they get relocated and her family being on the move all the time would not be good for the kids
Not to mention the societal dislike of superheroes that started with all those lawsuits, and is implied to continue. In addition to all the things that have already been said about why she's scared, she has the added element of concern for her family's social well- being. While the incredibles aren't obsessed with social standing, it still matters to them, and the fear of being treated as outsiders is a factor as well because when you're different from most people, you never know how they'll react. ... sorry, that was a bit rambling...
I have noticed when media tries to make a 50/50 argument people will think the character they relate to more or the one with their more similar ideals is whose right and take their side even though the narrative is trying to show both sides are flawed or right in some regards and there's not one side to take.....people feel like every debate has a winner and they want you to pick a person or side on an issue but like not every single time is it clear whose fully right or wrong and both can be both and neither and 100% correct ..what if the two debating are both coming from the wrong place?
@@kateiannacone2698 I hate how he paused when she said I will not be made to be the bad guy here....I love a mom with some backbone and awareness....she is so relatable here...he's being dumb
I think he's right that it has to be a mix of both. Too much moving about is bad for the family, but this is a super family, and it's pretty ridiculous to ban su]er heroes... but in any case, both of these are true. They are supers and they are outlawed. It looks like neither Bob nor Helen had any kind of plan for this kind of thing, so they just settled. For Helen, as the more mature of the 2, it was less difficult to adjust because she's being selfless but for Bob, and it would seem for the kids, there is a lot that's missing to make them feel whole, and discarding the superb nature of their family is still unhealthy. Perhaps, it it more selfish, or maybe it's just self-care. (In Bob's case, selfish, as he's isolating from the family often). Violet should feel comfortable being a super, and Dash should be able to exercise his ability as well. The family was going to break down entirely if this stuff kept on going. If anything, Bob should have opened up more, but after relocating at least once before, he may feel like he can't ever bring that topic up because it's going to be shut down automatically as a prevention for the worst case scenario. That's not a solution, it's a time-bomb. Bob and Helen should have been able to talk about that one quite often, because their being super is a family issue, and regardless of the law, that cannot simply be ignored all the time.
The kids names explains their powers. Dash= super speed. Violet = ultraviolet light~ invisible. Jack-Jack = Jack of all trades~ having basically all forms of powers.
The funny thing is, Bob or Mr. Incredible is the one who wanted to settle down, and Helen or Elastigirl is the one who didn't want to stop superheroing anytime soon with her career. They both made sacrifices and neither of them regrets the biggest ones, but Elastigirl's is usually looked over because of this story's focus on Bob. She became more... flexible as time changed, despite the law prohibiting her from doing the things she really loved and maybe this change came sooner than expected to Bob, so he still had the urge to continue superheroing despite him getting what he said that he wanted. They both obviously love their family very much. Just something interesting I thought that I would mention.
Not only did Bob and Helen end up contradicting their stated goals in the intro (Bob - wanted to settle down, Helen - wanted to keep superheroing) but so did Frozone. Remember in the into how he gave he impression he was a ladies man and played the field. But later in the film we see he is totally tied down to his wife "Honey" so that he has to beg her for his super suit. Certainly not the "ladies man" he appeared in the intro.
The story focuses on Bob because he's the one trapped in an unsatisfying job with only complaints from clients when he denies their claims or repercussions to his employment when the clients are satisfied. Helen keeps herself busy and is accomplishing something by raising her children and keeping house. Bob never feels that sort of accomplishment, even when he gets home he is expected to referee arguments and settle disputes without complaining.
The plane scene is incredible because it actually implies Helen was at some point prior military. She uses correct Naval aviation terminology, and followed all the protocols for the situation she was in. She first started by giving her call sign India Gold Niner Niner or IG99 and requesting an approach vector. She made the tower aware of her presence and asked where she should go to set up for landing. When she got no response she asked again and nothing. When she hears the radar lock alarm and sees the missles she says "IG99 Transmiting in the blind guard, disengage I repeat disengage!" Transmiting in the blind means shes talking to the tower without establishing two way communications. She's telling the tower that she can't hear them, so if they've been giving her orders to turn around or that she was entering restricted airspace, she hasn't been receiving it. Normally this would mean they would stop firing and send an escort plane to escort the Helen away from the airspace or to a safe landing zone. After the second volley of missles she says "IG99 IS BUDDY SPIKED DISENGAGE!" which means "I am a friendly aircraft and I am receiving radar lock from friendly forces, DO NOT FIRE" Everything else she says is also accurate minus a slight mess up with her Mayday call (which I can excuse because she's got freaking missles flying at her)
Looking back this film should of been the sequel to a film before they were a family that came out first cause it would hit harder that they are in hiding in the sequel with kids and they created all this worldbuilding superhero lure and even showed their past hero lives for the first part of the film and then pretend like that era really doesn't matter...in the extras you see all this behind the scenes work done to create all these heroes and it just was wasted for this film...I really wished incredible 2 was a prequel to this film cause we deserved that....brad bird created a much more interesting past then future in the actual incredibles 2 which had great animation but a meh story....not sure why the first film had to take place after all this good stuff...we could of had half the film be set in the past honestly before they got sued and all that
@@razkable "We" deserved that? What...for doing absoutely nothing. The creator of his/her art does whatever they want with their creation; End of story! You must be a millennial or a zoomer, because all that self-worship is just absolutely amazing! The world doesn't revolve around you and neither does your opinion; it's all the same! ugh, SMH!
Looking back on it, it's actually super freaking wholesome that Bob is ecstatic to just be *helping* people again. He never once even bothered thinking about any notoriety that would come with it, he's just like "Ooh, fire? People need saving? I can do that! Let's do it!" Actual superhero.
38:04 This scene has been redone, most likely for fixing language barriers. The original scene had a red line across with the word “Terminated” whenever someone was killed. Also, when bob looked up Frozone and Elastagirl, he got “Known” for Frozone and “Unknown” for Elastagirl. When you rewatch the movie, you realize that Syndrome was hunting down Frozone and discovered Bob’s location by coincidence. Here’s a comparison video between the original and redone version: ruclips.net/video/j4xLF889MT0/видео.html
Yeah that's why when that girl first see them listening to police scanners she referres to bob as just "the fat man" and also saying how frozone is not a alone meaning she was spying on HIM
I've got the original 2004 dvd release. I don't know when the change happened, but I guess it was put in on the masters of the movie after 2004. I have never heard about that before!
The part when Bob is explaining to Helen that he can't lose her again, he isn't strong enough... that gets me every single damn time. Tears. He's finally admitted what's truly important to him and that he isn't strong enough to do it. This movie is so damn good.
I'm not a fan of bob...man caused every hero he knew in his past to die due to telling buddy to go home when it would of been better to let him die and was clearly cheating on his wife if this film was rated pg-13....in reality he's totally sleeping with mirage otherwise he would never let her go after what he thinks is his family dying...they hid it but its there between the lines which is why elastagirl is justified hitting mirage when she sees them hug and suspects foul play...the writers are not slick...it's a metaphor...he's sneaking out he's happy after being run down in life...they could of made mirage a guy...they made it a woman for a reason....he would not risk his life without the reward of cheating sex with this hot woman...
@@razkable I don't know... He never was seen openly flirting with Mirage. All we saw was the usual sophisticated small talk in higher circles, which I'm sure Bob is familiar with, being a former top superhero. He is a good guy, so it would make sense that he would not have it in him to kill someone in cold blood with his own hands (only later did he try to do so). The point of the story is that he lied to relive his past glory. That's his reward after a bland normal life, and going on superheroic adventures is played as a drug for him as soon as during the fire, where he was excited at the perspective of people being in danger. And Helen's motivation for the second half of the movie IS that she suspects (wrongly) that her husband is cheating on her. If the writers had chosen a man for Mirage's character, Helen would have never assumed cheating when she picked up the phone, and started digging around. Also, it's not really fair to put the blame on Bob for being the reason behind Syndrome's creation. Not his fault a fan would turn evil and build an empire based on military weaponry. He's dealt with Buddy's bullcrap for much longer than the Bomb Voyage incident and is likely not the only annoying fan Bob gets, since Bob has meetings with his fans like every celebrity.
@@vianneyb.8776 - I enjoyed the points you made to @razkable, made about a year ago (I only stumbled onto ReelOz’s reaction video to ‘The Incredibles’ earlier today… When he writes, “(the creators) made Mirage a woman for a reason… he (Mr. Incredible) would not risk his life without the reward of cheating sex with this hot woman…” I mostly disagree, but there’s a grain of truth to it: What, exactly, is cheating, and what is not? In normal ussage, ‘cheating’ means having an extra-marital affair. (That’s a question that Helen directly asks Bob in one of the earlier drafts of this film’s script ((It’s not in the final version)).) But, extra-marital sex is only one of the ways that one can cheat. In the world of ‘The Incredibles,’ Bob does cheat on Helen by jumping at the opportunity presented by the confluence of Mirage’s offer to him (subdue the battle droid) and his being fired from Insuracare. He leads a double life, keeping a secret from Helen, his beloved, that she would in no way approve of if she found out. So, it’s not the presence or absence of sex with someone else that is the essence of cheating; it’s the deception. …I disagree with @razkable on the point that Bob is sleeping with Mirage offscreen - he’s not. There is one scene in which Bob ••does flirt•• with Mirage: “He’s attracted to power… so am I.” “Everything’s delicious.” …The dialogue in the scene makes it obvious. It’s flirty dialogue. My read is, that 1) Bob loves Helen, and would never cheat on her sexually. 2) Mirage, to Bob, represents not only an escape from his ‘normal’ life, but also someone who seems to understand him and the poison that is slowly eating him alive: “The Supers aren’t gone, Mr. Incredible - ••YOU’RE•• still here.” 3) Mirage and Syndrome hit Bob at his lowest ebb/weakest point - when he was not only fired, but also abandoned by Dicker/the government, and alone, and full of doubt and with a darkened attitude towards the world. (Bob partially justified it because Mirage said she worked for a government agency (implying that the work was legal) and also because the first Mirage job was a one-time event, and not an ongoing series of behaviors that we’d associate with steady employment.) So, yes, Bob did yield to a weakness and cheat on Helen in the nonsexual way… but the story has this action lead to a deeper, better re-engagement with his family, and also lead to events that thwart Syndrome and save the city. We can also see the point if we take it out of the realm of sex or superpowers: Is a husband cheating on his wife, if he meets once a week, secretly for lunch, with a woman (not his wife) in a public place, in which he talks to the woman about the personal / marital problems in his life? The fact that the meeting is secret, and that it violates his wife’s privacy, makes it a non-sexual form of cheating. Depending on what he reveals to the woman, it could be evaluated as either more or less severe than the usual kind of cheating.
Bob the dad who is the rock of the family (super strong). Helen is the mom who keeps the family together (super stretchy). Violet is the girl who feels invisible (invisibility). Dash the boy who is very hyper (super speed). And Jack-Jack the baby who is the jack of all trades (currently all over the place). All their powers relate to them in some way or another. Also, since Jack-Jack is a baby and is still learning a lot of things it's assumed that the reason he has multiple powers currently is bc he's still learning who he is while the other kids have a better understanding of themselves hence why they have more stable abilities.
Yes, it's exactly what I said in another réaction of this movie, except I count the fact Violette is in teenage crisis (what it explains why she hiding herself behind her hair) and Dash is the hyperactive child
I don't know if it was said elsewhere in the comments here, but one of my favorite theories about this movie is that Edna has the power of future vision, which is how she knew exactly what to make Jack Jack's suit withstand even though - at the time - he didn't have any powers, and why the "no capes!" thing was such a sticking point for her. She didn't see it coming and blamed herself. _"I never look back, dahling, it distracts from the now."_
I think he misread the entire do you know where he is scene...it's a double meaning to make her feel insecure about him cheating on her...in reality that's what the writers are going for..this dude took it literally lol he said look on the tracker lol...they mean do you know where he really is aka possibly with a woman cheating on you his wife...it doesn't matter where they are...
If you think about it, Syndrome made a great profound point, "everyone can be super, and when everyone is super, no one will be." Dash even made a similar point when he was talking to his mom about their powers being special. That's something to think about when everyone is treated special, everyone who truly is special will not be.
He made rocket boots as a kid. I think he is an inventor making his gauntlet thing as an adult. As a youth I think it’s safe to guess he invented a few things, got some patents, got fairly wealthy to be able to buy land and build his place
Do you have "Good Samaritan" law in your country? Basically saying that a person genuinely trying to help save someone's life cannot be sued for messing up.
I don't know the laws about this in my country, but no one would even think of suing someone for saving their lives even if they didn't want to get saved! If there's an accident for example in the street the entire street will run towards the injured trying to help!
Buddy aka Syndrome did NOT sue Mr Incredible; (it was the man who Bob had saved from commiting suicide who sued him). Instead he got his money from inventing and selling weapons: (Remember, he invented some rocket boots when he was only a young boy).
Reason buddy has money is because he's an inventor. Dude made rocket boots when he was a kid... Reason he sent robot to destroy the city was to stop it so that everyone would see his technology and gadgets and buy them so they also become super. He said: When everyone is super, no one is. Dash also commented earlier in the movie when Helen (Elastigirl) said: Everyone's a winner. He said: That's just a different way to say no one is. When everyone has powers then that becomes new normal and no one is super anymore. This is my favorite animation of all times!!!
In many places of the world, there is a Good Samaritan Law, where when you in good conscience helped someone in a fatal incident within your capacity and to an extent that any professional in the field would deem rational, then you are free of liability of whatever happened to the victim during your attempt to save their life. For example, when an EMT is giving CPR to someone to save their life, and it ends with the victim alive but having broken ribs, the victim cannot sue the EMT for any medical injury that happened while saving their life, since it is common in the field for ribs to be broken during CPR.
56:21- these two are caricatures of Frank Thomas & Ollie Johnson- two members of the ORIGINAL Disney animation team (a group known as the "Nine Old Men") who pioneered tons of animating techniques used for decades throughout the medium. Sadly, they were the last survivors of the Nine Old Men & passed away not long after this.
I've been watching this movie on and on without ever getting tired of it since I was 6 (when it came out in 2004) and I still watch it nowadays that I'm 20. Absolutely my favorite Pixar movie and my favorite superhero movie.
9:00 : they already knew each others, they just addressed to themselves by their super identities and act as if they aren't close for you know, keeping secret identities?
The scene in the principal's office was added and removed many times but they decided to keep it in because the crew felt that without checking in with the other characters that the film would seem to be all about Bob rather than the whole family.
I really think this film was intended for adults because what’s interesting is my mum was saying when she watched the film with me as a child she picked up on things that I just laughed at. But now that I watch this as a young adult myself there’s a lot of serious issues in the film and that’s one of the things that makes this film so great.
"I don't know why I end up reading the subtitles when I can understand them..." Same though! I always do that and I don't know why. Maybe we just process information better by reading than by hearing.
Something I learned earlier today that I never noticed that the last two iterations of Syndrome’s terror bot was made specifically to defeat Frozone. I thought that was interesting.
As a nurse, you can actually be sued for saving the life of someone who explicitly does not want to be saved. It's called a DNR (do not resuscitate ) order. So this isn't that far off.
The clocks in on the wall of Bob's boss' office are for different time zones for other countries, so when he has to make appointments or calls to them here knows the correct time
Realsitically, superheros (and law enforcement) should not be using lethal force to address property crimes. That's how it reminds me of the real world. They were using excessive force and they were unaccountable for it until they were sued. A train full of people were severely injured, possible deaths, over money. The bank that was robbed was insured. He could've chosen not to engage Bombvoyage in the first place, and no one would've been hurt. A guy who wanted to unalive himself at the start of the movie is now permanently disabled. Imagine his will to live now that he's in pain everyday. If Mr. Incredible was willing to intervene, he should also be willing to pay for the permanent injuries he directly caused.
I assume Syndrome got his money through patents. The guy invented rocket boots when he was what? 10? He's probably put some other cool stuff out there in between that doesn't give people super powers, but still sells
12:33 I'm guessing you're thinking of a legal system that isn't American, because one detail I remember from my highschool years about court cases is that there are three different rulings: guilty, innocent, and not guilty. I distinctly remember my teacher asking the class what they thought the difference between innocent and not guilty was, and I was the first person to get it right: Innocent is when you believe the person didn't do the crime, not guilty mean you don't think there's enough evidence to choose either of the other rulings. "Not guilty" is basically saying "Eeeeeh, they might have done it, but I don't wanna accidentally condemn an innocent person if I'm wrong". This isn't me trying to give an opinion on whatever the court case was involving Johny Dept. I actually had no idea there had been any court drama around him, but I felt the need to clear up this misconception you have if you are talking about the American court system, because you said the ruling was "not guilty" and then said he was found "innocent", but those are technically two different things. I can't believe they skipped the NO CAPES bit!!!
Pixar movies are the best. By the way, Edna Mode (the Designerin) was originally supposed to be voiced by a professional actress (I don't know who anymore) but because the lines weren't recorded yet, Brad Bird, the directory of the Incredibles, did a rough version of the lines so that other voice-actors could speak around them. Well, it turned out so good, that eventually he just voiced Edna Mode in the movie so what you are hearing from Edna is actually the director of The Incredibles delivering these lines. For more interesting facts I always suggest Cinemawins: ruclips.net/video/vT47jdPXDFA/видео.html Also, Syndrom made his money with weapon-development which he then sold to every mayor government in the world There is also a theory, that the supers themselves where actually originally employed by the government which actually makes 100% sense. Full video about the theory is here: ruclips.net/video/Z3Hv7fxnCJg/видео.html
You guys need to pause during your "thinking it out" process. They literally explained to you the whole banter on the rooftop and you talked right through it.
The sad part of this story is that it is totally believable. How many people end up in prison for shooting home invaders? Is it really that unbelievable that somebody could be sued for saving someone who was trying to commit suicide?
Two notes: the two old guys talking during the end of the Robot fight scene were Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston two of the Famous DISNEY Nine Old Men a group of Disney’s original animation team since Snow White. The Director Brad Bird had to do the voice of Edna Mode as they could not find anyone who could do the job.
0:09:49 - 0:09:52 Wait a minute!!! In the italian dub he says:"You didn't save my life:you ruined my back!"...the original line is *so much better!!* 0:14:40 - 0:14:43 You mean you _didn't_ see him on the tape?Because *I did!* 0:35:56 - 0:36:02 Excellent point!:-S 🔥
Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl were.....*gasp*....being FLIRTATIOUS on the rooftop at the beginning. lol! Come on, don't you two ever do a little playful roleplaying? 😉 Their wedding was scheduled for later that evening because they'd been going out some time already.
9:00 "I'm confused wasn't it that day that they met each other" He says and pauses the movie for as they are talking about that exact scene and discussing it was playful banter
This movie is better than perfect in my opinion. So much so that when the sequel was going to be made I was against it because I didn’t want them (in Syndrome’s voice) “ruin it”. Glad I wasn’t disappointed by the sequel.
11:50 poor Johnny, I love him so much. Definitely pity celebrities too. Always getting sued for something they didn’t do and even if it’s the celebrity wins the case, everyone thinks they did it. Ppl always judge and hate on the rich and I hate it. They’re so selfish and stupid. Yes, it’s easy for the rich to get very greedy and prideful and selfish but not all are like that and it’s stupid.
IRL all US jurisdictions have "Good Samaritan" laws to prevent people being held liable for damages arising from reasonable actions intended to save someone else from serious danger. So those lawsuits at the beginning were BS.
Syndrome says he got rich by inventing weapons. Also his voice actor (Jason Lee) is the same guy who plays Dave from Alvin and the chipmunks 😄 and also Charlie from We bare bears
Speaking of CGI, it is worth noting that when this movie came out in 2004, it was the first movie to render cloth and hair with any reasonable accuracy. Pixar had to develop for ground breaking computer software for this movie, just for rendering a natural look of cloth and how it moves. Today it is nothing special to render cloth realistically. Everyone can do it. But back in 2004, this was a major advancement.
In each Pixar movie, they push the envelope of what they can do with CGI. And they do something really hard that's never been done before. In Monsters, Inc., the really hard thing was animating Sully's fur. Each hair on his body had to move and flow realistically, which took a lot of computing power. In The Incredibles, it was Violet's long hair - it was a major project to make it move realistically.
Yeah i remember being blown away by the textures when i saw it at the cinema
Wasnt that for monster inc since it came out 3 years before the incredibles and remember how they created realistic fur pysics.
@@PhilBagels Both Pixar and Disney do this. Tangled was the most expensive animated film ever and one of the most expensive films period ever. $260 million budget. Frozen they had to come up with a way to simulate snow realistically. Disney invented the material shader that is the industry standard, the principled BSDF shader. Pixar and Disney continually set themselves really high bars. Big Hero 6... the city of San Fransokyo was procedurally generated and they could literally go into any part of it for the film.
This is epic
The reason Helen was worried or scared about dash being found out was that everytime they get found out they get relocated and her family being on the move all the time would not be good for the kids
Not to mention the societal dislike of superheroes that started with all those lawsuits, and is implied to continue. In addition to all the things that have already been said about why she's scared, she has the added element of concern for her family's social well- being. While the incredibles aren't obsessed with social standing, it still matters to them, and the fear of being treated as outsiders is a factor as well because when you're different from most people, you never know how they'll react.
... sorry, that was a bit rambling...
@@kateiannacone2698 not too long mate it was pretty cool
I have noticed when media tries to make a 50/50 argument people will think the character they relate to more or the one with their more similar ideals is whose right and take their side even though the narrative is trying to show both sides are flawed or right in some regards and there's not one side to take.....people feel like every debate has a winner and they want you to pick a person or side on an issue but like not every single time is it clear whose fully right or wrong and both can be both and neither and 100% correct ..what if the two debating are both coming from the wrong place?
@@kateiannacone2698 I hate how he paused when she said I will not be made to be the bad guy here....I love a mom with some backbone and awareness....she is so relatable here...he's being dumb
I think he's right that it has to be a mix of both. Too much moving about is bad for the family, but this is a super family, and it's pretty ridiculous to ban su]er heroes... but in any case, both of these are true. They are supers and they are outlawed.
It looks like neither Bob nor Helen had any kind of plan for this kind of thing, so they just settled. For Helen, as the more mature of the 2, it was less difficult to adjust because she's being selfless but for Bob, and it would seem for the kids, there is a lot that's missing to make them feel whole, and discarding the superb nature of their family is still unhealthy. Perhaps, it it more selfish, or maybe it's just self-care. (In Bob's case, selfish, as he's isolating from the family often). Violet should feel comfortable being a super, and Dash should be able to exercise his ability as well.
The family was going to break down entirely if this stuff kept on going. If anything, Bob should have opened up more, but after relocating at least once before, he may feel like he can't ever bring that topic up because it's going to be shut down automatically as a prevention for the worst case scenario. That's not a solution, it's a time-bomb.
Bob and Helen should have been able to talk about that one quite often, because their being super is a family issue, and regardless of the law, that cannot simply be ignored all the time.
The kids names explains their powers. Dash= super speed. Violet = ultraviolet light~ invisible. Jack-Jack = Jack of all trades~ having basically all forms of powers.
Violet was also a "shrinking Violet" a phrase focusing on her extreme shyness at the start of the movie.
The funny thing is, Bob or Mr. Incredible is the one who wanted to settle down, and Helen or Elastigirl is the one who didn't want to stop superheroing anytime soon with her career.
They both made sacrifices and neither of them regrets the biggest ones, but Elastigirl's is usually looked over because of this story's focus on Bob.
She became more... flexible as time changed, despite the law prohibiting her from doing the things she really loved and maybe this change came sooner than expected to Bob, so he still had the urge to continue superheroing despite him getting what he said that he wanted. They both obviously love their family very much.
Just something interesting I thought that I would mention.
Not only did Bob and Helen end up contradicting their stated goals in the intro (Bob - wanted to settle down, Helen - wanted to keep superheroing) but so did Frozone. Remember in the into how he gave he impression he was a ladies man and played the field. But later in the film we see he is totally tied down to his wife "Honey" so that he has to beg her for his super suit. Certainly not the "ladies man" he appeared in the intro.
@@robertscott1949 KML. TRUE. At least she isn't a superhero girl. I think that was what he meant. But that is hilarious
@@memyselfandi7782 xd
The story focuses on Bob because he's the one trapped in an unsatisfying job with only complaints from clients when he denies their claims or repercussions to his employment when the clients are satisfied.
Helen keeps herself busy and is accomplishing something by raising her children and keeping house. Bob never feels that sort of accomplishment, even when he gets home he is expected to referee arguments and settle disputes without complaining.
The plane scene is incredible because it actually implies Helen was at some point prior military. She uses correct Naval aviation terminology, and followed all the protocols for the situation she was in.
She first started by giving her call sign India Gold Niner Niner or IG99 and requesting an approach vector. She made the tower aware of her presence and asked where she should go to set up for landing.
When she got no response she asked again and nothing.
When she hears the radar lock alarm and sees the missles she says "IG99 Transmiting in the blind guard, disengage I repeat disengage!"
Transmiting in the blind means shes talking to the tower without establishing two way communications. She's telling the tower that she can't hear them, so if they've been giving her orders to turn around or that she was entering restricted airspace, she hasn't been receiving it. Normally this would mean they would stop firing and send an escort plane to escort the Helen away from the airspace or to a safe landing zone.
After the second volley of missles she says "IG99 IS BUDDY SPIKED DISENGAGE!" which means "I am a friendly aircraft and I am receiving radar lock from friendly forces, DO NOT FIRE"
Everything else she says is also accurate minus a slight mess up with her Mayday call (which I can excuse because she's got freaking missles flying at her)
There aren't 3 movies but there is a short called Jack Jack Attack which shows what happened at home with Jack Jack and the babysitter
And another short, Auntie Edna, which you should see after the sequel:) Also about Jack Jack and Edna.
Looking back this film should of been the sequel to a film before they were a family that came out first cause it would hit harder that they are in hiding in the sequel with kids and they created all this worldbuilding superhero lure and even showed their past hero lives for the first part of the film and then pretend like that era really doesn't matter...in the extras you see all this behind the scenes work done to create all these heroes and it just was wasted for this film...I really wished incredible 2 was a prequel to this film cause we deserved that....brad bird created a much more interesting past then future in the actual incredibles 2 which had great animation but a meh story....not sure why the first film had to take place after all this good stuff...we could of had half the film be set in the past honestly before they got sued and all that
@@razkable "We" deserved that? What...for doing absoutely nothing. The creator of his/her art does whatever they want with their creation; End of story! You must be a millennial or a zoomer, because all that self-worship is just absolutely amazing! The world doesn't revolve around you and neither does your opinion; it's all the same! ugh, SMH!
Syndrome said in the movie that he made his money selling weapons to countries. (Though he kept the best for himself.)
The Tony Stark of Pixar
Looking back on it, it's actually super freaking wholesome that Bob is ecstatic to just be *helping* people again. He never once even bothered thinking about any notoriety that would come with it, he's just like "Ooh, fire? People need saving? I can do that! Let's do it!"
Actual superhero.
38:04
This scene has been redone, most likely for fixing language barriers. The original scene had a red line across with the word “Terminated” whenever someone was killed. Also, when bob looked up Frozone and Elastagirl, he got “Known” for Frozone and “Unknown” for Elastagirl.
When you rewatch the movie, you realize that Syndrome was hunting down Frozone and discovered Bob’s location by coincidence.
Here’s a comparison video between the original and redone version:
ruclips.net/video/j4xLF889MT0/видео.html
that’s crazy
Why was it changed?
Seeing that a superhero got "terminated" should be enough to imply they got killed.
Like the film "Terminator"
@@RYMAN1321 "Terminated" isn't a word outside of English.
Yeah that's why when that girl first see them listening to police scanners she referres to bob as just "the fat man" and also saying how frozone is not a alone meaning she was spying on HIM
I've got the original 2004 dvd release. I don't know when the change happened, but I guess it was put in on the masters of the movie after 2004. I have never heard about that before!
The part when Bob is explaining to Helen that he can't lose her again, he isn't strong enough... that gets me every single damn time. Tears. He's finally admitted what's truly important to him and that he isn't strong enough to do it. This movie is so damn good.
I'm not a fan of bob...man caused every hero he knew in his past to die due to telling buddy to go home when it would of been better to let him die and was clearly cheating on his wife if this film was rated pg-13....in reality he's totally sleeping with mirage otherwise he would never let her go after what he thinks is his family dying...they hid it but its there between the lines which is why elastagirl is justified hitting mirage when she sees them hug and suspects foul play...the writers are not slick...it's a metaphor...he's sneaking out he's happy after being run down in life...they could of made mirage a guy...they made it a woman for a reason....he would not risk his life without the reward of cheating sex with this hot woman...
@@razkable You must be really fun at parties.
@@razkable I don't know... He never was seen openly flirting with Mirage. All we saw was the usual sophisticated small talk in higher circles, which I'm sure Bob is familiar with, being a former top superhero. He is a good guy, so it would make sense that he would not have it in him to kill someone in cold blood with his own hands (only later did he try to do so). The point of the story is that he lied to relive his past glory. That's his reward after a bland normal life, and going on superheroic adventures is played as a drug for him as soon as during the fire, where he was excited at the perspective of people being in danger. And Helen's motivation for the second half of the movie IS that she suspects (wrongly) that her husband is cheating on her. If the writers had chosen a man for Mirage's character, Helen would have never assumed cheating when she picked up the phone, and started digging around.
Also, it's not really fair to put the blame on Bob for being the reason behind Syndrome's creation. Not his fault a fan would turn evil and build an empire based on military weaponry. He's dealt with Buddy's bullcrap for much longer than the Bomb Voyage incident and is likely not the only annoying fan Bob gets, since Bob has meetings with his fans like every celebrity.
@@razkable Wow, zero likes? Deserved
@@vianneyb.8776 - I enjoyed the points you made to @razkable, made about a year ago (I only stumbled onto ReelOz’s reaction video to ‘The Incredibles’ earlier today…
When he writes, “(the creators) made Mirage a woman for a reason… he (Mr. Incredible) would not risk his life without the reward of cheating sex with this hot woman…” I mostly disagree, but there’s a grain of truth to it:
What, exactly, is cheating, and what is not? In normal ussage, ‘cheating’ means having an extra-marital affair. (That’s a question that Helen directly asks Bob in one of the earlier drafts of this film’s script ((It’s not in the final version)).) But, extra-marital sex is only one of the ways that one can cheat. In the world of ‘The Incredibles,’ Bob does cheat on Helen by jumping at the opportunity presented by the confluence of Mirage’s offer to him (subdue the battle droid) and his being fired from Insuracare. He leads a double life, keeping a secret from Helen, his beloved, that she would in no way approve of if she found out.
So, it’s not the presence or absence of sex with someone else that is the essence of cheating; it’s the deception.
…I disagree with @razkable on the point that Bob is sleeping with Mirage offscreen - he’s not. There is one scene in which Bob ••does flirt•• with Mirage: “He’s attracted to power… so am I.” “Everything’s delicious.” …The dialogue in the scene makes it obvious. It’s flirty dialogue.
My read is, that
1) Bob loves Helen, and would never cheat on her sexually.
2) Mirage, to Bob, represents not only an escape from his ‘normal’ life, but also someone who seems to understand him and the poison that is slowly eating him alive: “The Supers aren’t gone, Mr. Incredible - ••YOU’RE•• still here.”
3) Mirage and Syndrome hit Bob at his lowest ebb/weakest point - when he was not only fired, but also abandoned by Dicker/the government, and alone, and full of doubt and with a darkened attitude towards the world. (Bob partially justified it because Mirage said she worked for a government agency (implying that the work was legal) and also because the first Mirage job was a one-time event, and not an ongoing series of behaviors that we’d associate with steady employment.)
So, yes, Bob did yield to a weakness and cheat on Helen in the nonsexual way… but the story has this action lead to a deeper, better re-engagement with his family, and also lead to events that thwart Syndrome and save the city.
We can also see the point if we take it out of the realm of sex or superpowers: Is a husband cheating on his wife, if he meets once a week, secretly for lunch, with a woman (not his wife) in a public place, in which he talks to the woman about the personal / marital problems in his life? The fact that the meeting is secret, and that it violates his wife’s privacy, makes it a non-sexual form of cheating. Depending on what he reveals to the woman, it could be evaluated as either more or less severe than the usual kind of cheating.
Bob the dad who is the rock of the family (super strong). Helen is the mom who keeps the family together (super stretchy). Violet is the girl who feels invisible (invisibility). Dash the boy who is very hyper (super speed). And Jack-Jack the baby who is the jack of all trades (currently all over the place). All their powers relate to them in some way or another.
Also, since Jack-Jack is a baby and is still learning a lot of things it's assumed that the reason he has multiple powers currently is bc he's still learning who he is while the other kids have a better understanding of themselves hence why they have more stable abilities.
Yes, it's exactly what I said in another réaction of this movie, except I count the fact Violette is in teenage crisis (what it explains why she hiding herself behind her hair) and Dash is the hyperactive child
I don't know if it was said elsewhere in the comments here, but one of my favorite theories about this movie is that Edna has the power of future vision, which is how she knew exactly what to make Jack Jack's suit withstand even though - at the time - he didn't have any powers, and why the "no capes!" thing was such a sticking point for her. She didn't see it coming and blamed herself.
_"I never look back, dahling, it distracts from the now."_
The people on the train sued because they got injured, the photo showed them all with neck braces on.
That still stupid asf.. its either be hurt or die.. I understand tho, in the American economy they probably wouldn't be able to pay the med bills..
@@earthing3696 if Bob never got involved the bomb never would have exploded on the tracks.
@@Adplusamequalsadam Technically if Buddy didn’t show up then that wouldn’t have happened
@@LegendsForever206 And Buddy wouldn't have shown up had Bob told him to buzz off.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 He did so multiple times though
"No capes!"
Great reaction, guys, love it. Also Syndrome's voice actor is Jason Lee.
Jason Lee from Alvin and the Chipmunks.
I think he misread the entire do you know where he is scene...it's a double meaning to make her feel insecure about him cheating on her...in reality that's what the writers are going for..this dude took it literally lol he said look on the tracker lol...they mean do you know where he really is aka possibly with a woman cheating on you his wife...it doesn't matter where they are...
If you think about it, Syndrome made a great profound point, "everyone can be super, and when everyone is super, no one will be." Dash even made a similar point when he was talking to his mom about their powers being special. That's something to think about when everyone is treated special, everyone who truly is special will not be.
He made rocket boots as a kid. I think he is an inventor making his gauntlet thing as an adult. As a youth I think it’s safe to guess he invented a few things, got some patents, got fairly wealthy to be able to buy land and build his place
Do you have "Good Samaritan" law in your country? Basically saying that a person genuinely trying to help save someone's life cannot be sued for messing up.
In Australia yes.
@@ReelOzAussieDillon Syndrome is voiced by Jason Lee.
Cheek with Film theory on this. It makes alot of sense. I would actually love to see your reactions to that video if you're interested in sharing.
I don't know the laws about this in my country, but no one would even think of suing someone for saving their lives even if they didn't want to get saved! If there's an accident for example in the street the entire street will run towards the injured trying to help!
Buddy aka Syndrome did NOT sue Mr Incredible; (it was the man who Bob had saved from commiting suicide who sued him). Instead he got his money from inventing and selling weapons: (Remember, he invented some rocket boots when he was only a young boy).
Reason buddy has money is because he's an inventor. Dude made rocket boots when he was a kid...
Reason he sent robot to destroy the city was to stop it so that everyone would see his technology and gadgets and buy them so they also become super.
He said: When everyone is super, no one is. Dash also commented earlier in the movie when Helen (Elastigirl) said: Everyone's a winner. He said: That's just a different way to say no one is.
When everyone has powers then that becomes new normal and no one is super anymore.
This is my favorite animation of all times!!!
In many places of the world, there is a Good Samaritan Law, where when you in good conscience helped someone in a fatal incident within your capacity and to an extent that any professional in the field would deem rational, then you are free of liability of whatever happened to the victim during your attempt to save their life.
For example, when an EMT is giving CPR to someone to save their life, and it ends with the victim alive but having broken ribs, the victim cannot sue the EMT for any medical injury that happened while saving their life, since it is common in the field for ribs to be broken during CPR.
Edna Mode is a freaking icon and objectively the funniest character in the movie. Also, you do her voice so well!
I like how when Helen punches Mirage, she's also aiming at Bob, but he dodges it
56:21- these two are caricatures of Frank Thomas & Ollie Johnson- two members of the ORIGINAL Disney animation team (a group known as the "Nine Old Men") who pioneered tons of animating techniques used for decades throughout the medium. Sadly, they were the last survivors of the Nine Old Men & passed away not long after this.
I heard those were supposed to be Jerry Seigel and Joe Shuster, the two original creators of Superman.
Fun fact Edna mode is voiced by the director Brad bird.
And he did an epic job of it!
Because he’s the only one can do her accent.
hello "wife", nice to meet you! 😂
and no, there is no 3rd movie yet!
I've been watching this movie on and on without ever getting tired of it since I was 6 (when it came out in 2004) and I still watch it nowadays that I'm 20. Absolutely my favorite Pixar movie and my favorite superhero movie.
9:00 : they already knew each others, they just addressed to themselves by their super identities and act as if they aren't close for you know, keeping secret identities?
One of my favorite childhood movies! Can’t wait for you guys to see incredibles 2! Plus you guys are SUPER ADORABLE!!
Y’all are adorable, I can see all the love you cherish when you talk about your wife now. Keep vibing!
"What's his name? Flash?" "Dash." "Dash...close."
Lol Flash is taken.
Actually,in the italian dub he *is* called Flash!;-D
@@Nicamon in the french version it's " Flèche " (Arrow)
@@a.g.demada5263 Cute!😊
@@Nicamon it's a little weird for me 🤭
@@a.g.demada5263 LOL.
The scene in the principal's office was added and removed many times but they decided to keep it in because the crew felt that without checking in with the other characters that the film would seem to be all about Bob rather than the whole family.
I really think this film was intended for adults because what’s interesting is my mum was saying when she watched the film with me as a child she picked up on things that I just laughed at. But now that I watch this as a young adult myself there’s a lot of serious issues in the film and that’s one of the things that makes this film so great.
57:07 the actor who voiced Syndrome is Jason Lee, who is well known for playimg Earl in My Name is Earl.
40:03 There's a long deleted scene of her having a history of her flying a jet with her friend and her friend dies inside an exploded jet.
"I don't know why I end up reading the subtitles when I can understand them..."
Same though! I always do that and I don't know why. Maybe we just process information better by reading than by hearing.
Something I learned earlier today that I never noticed that the last two iterations of Syndrome’s terror bot was made specifically to defeat Frozone. I thought that was interesting.
The soundtrack and the villain's headquarters was a huge homage to the early James Bond films, and they nailed it.
the suing of superheroes is basically this universe version of the Sokovia accords.
As a nurse, you can actually be sued for saving the life of someone who explicitly does not want to be saved. It's called a DNR (do not resuscitate ) order. So this isn't that far off.
But in the case of Mr. Incredible, the Good Samaritan laws didn’t exist at the time which would’ve prevented him from being sued.
The first half of the movie almost feels like it was an adult movie
The clocks in on the wall of Bob's boss' office are for different time zones for other countries, so when he has to make appointments or calls to them here knows the correct time
Right, that's what you'd ordinarily expect. But the clocks in this case all indicated the SAME time.
yes "shots fired" you hear the gunshot right as it cuts to back outside
Wait... suicide is illegal? You cant exactly enforce that if... ya know... they're successful
arguably the darkest pixar movie. From start to finish.
Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl must have already known each other by the time of their rooftop meeting.
Can't wait for you to watch Incredibles 2. Also, just throwing this out there, have you seen The Croods? Another amazing family animation movie.
My favorite thing about Edna is that she's voiced by the director Brad Bird
mom and dad watch a mom and dad movie haha... Best reaction. So cute when you both laugh together
I love this man laugh, it's so contagious!
No, It wasn't Ryan Reynolds who voice Syndrome. It was Jason Lee
"Equality is a lie to protect the weak."
Darth Bane
Your wife is so pretty and you both are very cute together☺️
Realsitically, superheros (and law enforcement) should not be using lethal force to address property crimes. That's how it reminds me of the real world. They were using excessive force and they were unaccountable for it until they were sued.
A train full of people were severely injured, possible deaths, over money. The bank that was robbed was insured. He could've chosen not to engage Bombvoyage in the first place, and no one would've been hurt.
A guy who wanted to unalive himself at the start of the movie is now permanently disabled. Imagine his will to live now that he's in pain everyday. If Mr. Incredible was willing to intervene, he should also be willing to pay for the permanent injuries he directly caused.
I assume Syndrome got his money through patents. The guy invented rocket boots when he was what? 10? He's probably put some other cool stuff out there in between that doesn't give people super powers, but still sells
Buddy was played by Jason Lee, known for the movie Mallrats.
And Alvin and the Chipmunks
Honeeeey!!!!!! Where's my SUPERSUIT?!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
There's a question without answer : How did he manage to find his supersuit and go out ?
12:33 I'm guessing you're thinking of a legal system that isn't American, because one detail I remember from my highschool years about court cases is that there are three different rulings: guilty, innocent, and not guilty. I distinctly remember my teacher asking the class what they thought the difference between innocent and not guilty was, and I was the first person to get it right: Innocent is when you believe the person didn't do the crime, not guilty mean you don't think there's enough evidence to choose either of the other rulings. "Not guilty" is basically saying "Eeeeeh, they might have done it, but I don't wanna accidentally condemn an innocent person if I'm wrong". This isn't me trying to give an opinion on whatever the court case was involving Johny Dept. I actually had no idea there had been any court drama around him, but I felt the need to clear up this misconception you have if you are talking about the American court system, because you said the ruling was "not guilty" and then said he was found "innocent", but those are technically two different things.
I can't believe they skipped the NO CAPES bit!!!
"I can't lie to her or I'll start laughing"
**Starts laughing**
Me: So was that a lie?
You should watch the short Jack Jack attack. It's about what happens with Jack Jack abd the baby sitter. It's hilarious!
I’m late, but I had to mention how absolutely adorable the two of you are. ❤️❤️
Pixar movies are the best.
By the way, Edna Mode (the Designerin) was originally supposed to be voiced by a professional actress (I don't know who anymore) but because the lines weren't recorded yet, Brad Bird, the directory of the Incredibles, did a rough version of the lines so that other voice-actors could speak around them. Well, it turned out so good, that eventually he just voiced Edna Mode in the movie so what you are hearing from Edna is actually the director of The Incredibles delivering these lines.
For more interesting facts I always suggest Cinemawins: ruclips.net/video/vT47jdPXDFA/видео.html
Also, Syndrom made his money with weapon-development which he then sold to every mayor government in the world
There is also a theory, that the supers themselves where actually originally employed by the government which actually makes 100% sense. Full video about the theory is here: ruclips.net/video/Z3Hv7fxnCJg/видео.html
Lily Tomlin was supposed to voice her I think.
You guys need to pause during your "thinking it out" process. They literally explained to you the whole banter on the rooftop and you talked right through it.
As awesome as you are alone, with the wife, your double awesome
The sad part of this story is that it is totally believable. How many people end up in prison for shooting home invaders? Is it really that unbelievable that somebody could be sued for saving someone who was trying to commit suicide?
I thought your wife looked like the actress Mariana Klaveno I swear she's her doppelganger. Loved yalls reaction. Please watch deadpool with her 🙏
I've had a year of paralegal. To quote our civil litigation teacher, "Anyone can sue anybody for anything. Doesn't mean they will succeed."
Who else prefers to see the “TERMINATED” rather than the slash fr
We demand incredibles 2!!
Third movie? Who told you guys there was a third one? Man, I WISH!
Two notes: the two old guys talking during the end of the Robot fight scene were Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston two of the Famous DISNEY Nine Old Men a group of Disney’s original animation team since Snow White. The Director Brad Bird had to do the voice of Edna Mode as they could not find anyone who could do the job.
There is a deleted scene of a memorial for the dead supers
Oh... thats sad :(
0:09:49 - 0:09:52 Wait a minute!!! In the italian dub he says:"You didn't save my life:you ruined my back!"...the original line is *so much better!!*
0:14:40 - 0:14:43 You mean you _didn't_ see him on the tape?Because *I did!*
0:35:56 - 0:36:02 Excellent point!:-S 🔥
I saw Dash too.
And in the french version, the guy who wanted to commit suicid reproachs his injuries to Bob too
Times like this I think, you have the best day job :)
Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl were.....*gasp*....being FLIRTATIOUS on the rooftop at the beginning. lol! Come on, don't you two ever do a little playful roleplaying? 😉 Their wedding was scheduled for later that evening because they'd been going out some time already.
It's funny when he asks her for a date and she answers she has already something
To see what inspired the island base, see the James Bond film You Only Live Twice.
Fun fact about Bob’s fight with the Omnidroid V8: It was originally for Frozone because of the lava.
Syndrome isnt entirely wrong. Though it does suck when nobody acknowledges super intelligence as a power.
9:00 "I'm confused wasn't it that day that they met each other"
He says and pauses the movie for as they are talking about that exact scene and discussing it was playful banter
Since you didn’t pay attention when he say it, Syndrome said he got rich by selling weapons.
He invented super BOOTS. Invented stuff to get his money.
The best part of your reaction is when you face is like: 😐 i love it😍.
This was my favorite Pixar movie until The Incredibles 2 came out. Now that's my favorite.
14:39 hehe I had to go back n rewatch and I did see a flash of movement the first time (not 2nd when they zoomed in, though)
You both look like superhero characters from this movie. You are nice. :)
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
This movie is better than perfect in my opinion. So much so that when the sequel was going to be made I was against it because I didn’t want them (in Syndrome’s voice) “ruin it”. Glad I wasn’t disappointed by the sequel.
How fucking rude
I’ve never seen ur wife before! Y’all r too pretty together !!!! ❤️🔥🤧 perfect couple!
11:50 poor Johnny, I love him so much. Definitely pity celebrities too. Always getting sued for something they didn’t do and even if it’s the celebrity wins the case, everyone thinks they did it. Ppl always judge and hate on the rich and I hate it. They’re so selfish and stupid. Yes, it’s easy for the rich to get very greedy and prideful and selfish but not all are like that and it’s stupid.
IRL all US jurisdictions have "Good Samaritan" laws to prevent people being held liable for damages arising from reasonable actions intended to save someone else from serious danger. So those lawsuits at the beginning were BS.
Well there is a theory that the super heroes are organized by the government, so they might not be applicable to the Good Samaritan law.
@@themightyempire3511 Well if they are, then they have qualified immunity.
Is it only the US?
FYI it’s actually not illegal to commit suicide, or to try and commit suicide. At least in the US.
the reason why buddy pine / syndrome got rich is he invented weapons he mentioned it in his monolog with bob /Mr. incredible.
This guys laugh sounds like chandlers work laugh
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! I LOVE YOU FOR THIS
syndrome got the money inventing weapons for everyone
“And got BIZZAYY”
-Syndrome
5:11 “Hmm…Tanya, I work alone”
😂
syndrome voice actor is Jason lee
Syndrome says he got rich by inventing weapons. Also his voice actor (Jason Lee) is the same guy who plays Dave from Alvin and the chipmunks 😄 and also Charlie from We bare bears
He murdered who knows how many supers
It's Jason Lee from the Alvin and The Chipmunks movies and My Name Is Earl.