Down B Cancelling - A Guide to Peach's Turnip Loops
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- The Twitter combos are actually practical!
Credit Goes to Shnoork and B3rt for the help. Also Dandyman of course. Go check out the Peach discord if you love tech!
Pluto's Fancy Combos: • Z drop JCFF Nair | Pea...
Song used: The Forest of Hope from Pikmin
#Ralts_1 #SmashUltimatePeach #SmashBrosUltimate 
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Not Peach breaking my hands once again
carpal tunnel is waiting for u 🥰
I just realized this is basically wave shining.
cant wait till this guy hears about ness multimag
Kinda ironic since melee Peach is one of the victims of waveshining
Ngl this should be called daisy chaining
Love that name!
doesn't help that it's corn related lol. replace the c with a P tho
@@chimmychuck cringe
@@waterfilledglass yeah I was a different person back then
@@chimmychuck Welcome to the real world!
This is a game-changer. Shout out to all the researchers in the lab for optimizing this tech to increase the lifespans of hands everywhere!!!
Thanks again for ur guide!! Mint Breezy, Pluto and you doing gods work! Not only the content in your videos are super important, interesting and fun, but also the way it's presented, the order, the visuals, your script, pace, and voice, etc. are all of awesome quality.^^
Thank you for all your support. I will try to keep this formatting consistent since people like it.
I'm French, and we're currently in lockdown. Labbing seems one of my only way to improve during those trying times, and your channel is truly a blessing. Thanks for your hard work
Same here in the States. Gotta prepare for offline at some point.
I didn't think I could learn any more about peach and the this
Come to the Peach discord and learn some more stuff!
Babe wake up new ralts 1 video
Probably the most frustrating one to learn but I know it’s worth it fml
Just when I thought turnip combos wouldn’t get harder I see this gem. Props to the people who made this new tech possible thou.
but like... they just got easier...
@@Calebanton wdym easier?
My hands because of this are dying its soooo difficult with the regular controller
Thank you for putting in the common mistakes!! That’s very helpful I wish more guides did this!
A down b combo that carries your opponent across the stage... now where have I seen that before 🤔
How does this guy only have 252 subs? He's great!
Great video as always. I was having trouble with these.
This is amazing content. I havent played ultimate in like 5 months because i lost interest/haven’t been able to play offline due to the pandemic. Watching this makes me wanna practice Peach/Daisy again
These are some awesome Peach/Daisy tips! You guys keep up the good work!
Super good video my friend
criminally underrated channel, your guides are awesome!
I also forgot to say It's highly impractical, but you can also do turnip loops with z drop and a backwards float boost into your opponent
Hey that’s not super impractical, as a z drop is frame 4 OOS. Erio was labbing out that setup the other day in the peach discord.
Thank you ralts, you are missed
I've been experimenting with these combos for a few months now and I already found some zero to deths on my own
Your videos are perfection, but can you explain how pressing DownB is any different than just letting go of Jump pressing A?
A normal throw has a few frames of lag after whereas Z drops and down b cancels are instant. This allows you to do tight frame follow up move directly afterwards.
this is so much easier thank you
I agree! I hated the old method and could barely do it. Plus I had to mess up my control scheme.
3:52 Ol' reliable
Hilarious 😄
This helped me so much thank you for the great advice!
amazing tutorial, will try down b cancelling soon instead of what I was doing before since i’m kinda washed and my hands arent quite as fast 😂
I do agree, using the down B cancel is easier than the c-stick ground float method and the SHJCFF method.
This is the best explication video ever!!!!!!!!🤩
So this is a wonderful way to learn this! Thanks for sharing! Update: I snapped my z button practicing this. LOL
Me, a total noob
"advanced tech guide"
Mhh, interesting
Thanks for your video!
-Though I didnt understand..-
Shnoork is the goat 🐐
in the turnip train guides i watched before, it always said the turnip throws had to be smash throws iirc. is that not necessary anymore?
It nets you 2 extra percent each throw but it isn't necessary for it to be true.
Smash throws are easier to combo with, and the turnip moves faster in the air. However, without the down b tech, your z catch is going to be slower. Even though you get a light throw, the time saved with down b makes up for it.
It is helpful to start the combos with a smash throw, and you can even finish the combo with a smash throw that will more easily combo into forward air.
OMG ITS SO MUCH EASIER THX
is there anyway we can get a practice drill video? just what i should practice daily
Sorry for the late reply, but thanks to you I just added this video to my to do list. I'll start working on one!
Is the video out? :) i cant seem to combo
Samsara, drk pch.... what’s up? I know yall watching too
Been labbing this for 6 years and cant fet it true. Do you hold forward first and the buffer the z carch plus jump or do you jump and catch first and then hold forward its so confusingggg
The buttons you're showing on screen, is that default controls or is this a custom controller setup?
Default.
@@Ralts1 TY! This is tricky 🤯
Thx for your vidéo ! Is it différent using right stick (c stick to do F-toss)instead of down B to toss turnip?
Yes it is. Using the C-stick is slower and less consistent, but you get smash turnip throws (peach throws the turnip farther). Down B gets light throws, but is faster and more consistent. The peach discord at the moment agrees that Down B is the better way of doing the combo.
Your sub and viewcount is way too low, I'm sure you'll blow up if you continue with the quality vids.
That said, I think I give up trying to do this fast enough (with normal turnups), holding forward after the DBC requires this weird timing I can't get down since if you do it too early, it doesn't come out. If you could buffer the dash it would be super easy.. Chaining winky faces is surprisingly easy. Cool tech.
I'm sure you can get it with practice. The input is super complicated, but once you know it, you can just do the same thing over and over.
And yeah, special turnips make it so you don't really even have to do it perfectly, just close enough and they will combo.
@@Ralts1 turns out I wasnt buffering the z catch properly. The timing and hitting the buttons fast enough is still tough but it's way easier now.
@@xoa im so confused you have to hold forward AFTER you jump+zcatch? How tf do you float then since your holding forward you cant hold downwards
I also found that you can do turnip loops into down tilt turnip catch at certain percents
This is cool! I never knew this. Maybe you could provide the peach discord with percents where this works!
how can you do the z catch without cancelling float ? i use jump on L trigger i always do aerials no matter what and i only can z cactch consistently by dropping my float
Percentages at 2:32
What's the equivalent of Z on a Pro Controller
L and R
Quick question, is the combo counter just broken for this? I'll get a combo counter with regular turnips rarely but almost always get the combo counter with dot eyes and stitch face
The normal turnips (+ winky) just have a very small window to combo, and you have to be much more precise with your inputs. Dot and stitch have a ton of hitstun however, making these very easy to combo with. You can combo with stitch even if you aren't doing the inputs right.
@@Ralts1 ah ok guess ill have to be a bit faster tysm!
Wow
Could you make another video but this time showing your controller I’m still having trouble ,seeing the inputs being performed tends to help.
While I’m not going to make an entire video on this, I will stream in the future and I can show it. If you have any questions about the timing, I can answer them now.
How do you actually know the frame count?!?!
You do streaming ?
Funny thing, I used to stream a ton on twitch. I streamed maybe 50-100 hours over the summer for 0 viewers before I got tired and stopped.
I intend to give it another go at some point in the future. I hope to do viewer battles and do some live tech teaching.
im trying to get this combo down, but i always find myself catching the turnip and floating way higher than i should.
Im using L to jump on GC controller, is it possible to do the combo with this setup, or am i missing it because you cant short-hop consistently with L jump?
I’m in the same boat did you figure it out yet
@@jawesz7420 I kind of got the feel for it, but im still not good at it.
I think you have to
Dash -> jump and Z -> Immediately pull down the Stick
The frame window seems precise tho...
@@kgb_mosinman5689 when I pull down I just fast fall
@@jawesz7420 sry, I forgot to say that you have to keep pressing Jump after the Z catch. So you stay in float.
everytime i try to do this, i get a little too close and i grab. I don't know if I'm entering the input wrong for z-catch or if i'm just too close
I figured out the problem, he covered it in the last section of the video. I was pressing grab before jump
What's the error if I'm getting float cancel down air instead of jump z-catch ?
I have this problem too. I think it might be because you're pressing jump and z catch on the same frame. Z catch is the same as the grab button, and the grab button is a macro for [shield + attack] because of ultimates buffer priority systems when you press jump attack and shield on the same frame itll make you input a down air. (I'm not sure tho this is just my best guess)
I'm new to smash, anyone knows the commands on switch pro controller?
The down b throw I’m not used to but I’m getting it
can’t you just tech at the higher percents?
How do you throw the tunip?
wait when did turnip turn into gyro
Feels like im doing everything perfectly but the combo meter stayssss at 1.. :(
Be closer to your opponent and do the inputs faster.
@@Ralts1 im legit super tight close to ganondorf on the practice mode and my fingers are going the fastest they ever can too idk if im just missing the forward timing when hittin my jump button but something ain't right
How do I Z catch with a pro controller?
By default, it should be R. It's just your grab button.
@@Ralts1 Can we play sometime? I would really really like you to critique my peach. i got the game 2 weeks ago
@@egt4812 twitch.tv/ralts_1 tomorrow night at 8pm EST I'm there for viewer battles.
Is this worth the time to learn?
Absolutely worth it.
You have to make that call. If you want to use it in a match, go for it. If not, the character still works just fine.
I'm having some trouble transitioning to the gf
After the turnip toss with c stick, wait about 5 frames, flick the analog forward and hold it, immidietly buffer jump+grab by holding the buttons. Continue holding forward once you buffer jump+grab, then hold down while still holding jump+grab.
The amount you need to hold forward and down requires perfect timing if you want to combo. During the combo, the float is so fast you don't even see it
Name game
How can I smash toss with down b?
You can’t. You need to use the cstick if you want to smash toss.
@@Ralts1 Ok thx, if i smash toss each cycle, is it easier to make it true ?
@@Croustibate not necessarily. Down B is a faster and more consistent method, even with the light toss. That’s been the consensus in the Peach discord for awhile.
@@Ralts1 Cool! Thx, yep is so much easier. So I will juste smash toss the first one :)
is this possible with joycons
Absolutely
@@Ralts1 do you have any settings tips for the controller i usually use y to regrab the turnip,
Is this still possible?
It's still possible, but I don't know if it combos yet.
@@se-fl yes
still hard lol
I don’t even play peach
You can fix that
Psst, hey Sakurai, patch this out......
>_>
shhhhhh
No
Im subscriber #666
Thank you trash boat