Triumph Can’t Make the Speed 400 and 400 X Fast Enough | A Dream Australian Garage
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
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Time Stamps:
0:00: Words of Wisdom
2:22: Riding Tests
4:30: Norton Motorcycles and the Turbulent Past
8:17: A Dream Australian Garage
11:52: Triumph Can’t Make the New 400s Fast Enough (Triumph 400 X and Triumph Speed 400, and Suzuki V-Strom 650)
18:25: Bike of the Week (BMW RnineT) 
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Stop worrying so much about what means of transport you have. The motorbike is for daily trips and for adventure trips. Not to outdo your mates or to show off...Take care of it, but don't worry about trifles!
Well said. Buy a bike, any bike and ride it. People want to have five bikes but I guess they’re the ones you see being sold with far too few miles on the clocks.
Krekt!
I just purchased the triumph speed 400. I’ve been riding 22 years, I have owned big 1500cc cruisers. I test road the 400, and It’s my favorite bike I have ever ridden. For the price, and my age, it’s perfect. I pick mine up Saturday. Speed isn’t everything.
Your chats are really getting to me, old chap. I really love them, I’m so glad I found them. Thank you for what you are doing here.
Monika and Freddie are the best. Welcome aboard
Hi Freddie,
I test rode the 400x it's a quality bike but just didn't do it for me at all.
Sold my himalayan, which I preferred to the triumph and bought the classic 350 without a test ride(decided on looks and quality alone)
This little bike has stolen my heart & soul, can't ask for more than that! Love my little "Ruby"
Keep up the great work you two. Just keeps getting better & better.
Great episode Freddie, that man cave is most likely the envy of us all! Fair play to the guy that built it and can enjoy the fruits of his efforts 👍 I know you're inspired by this Freddie, but the people in the flat below would be seriously ticked off! 😂😂
True!😆🎶🏍️
Thanks for another great video!
Who remember's Henry Cole fawning all over Stuart Garner in his programme a few years back. Wonder if he regrets those episodes now.
Yes, very uncomfortable viewing. A scheming shyster of the highest order. Proof if anyone was in doubt that the legal system is an ass. And he’s by far not the only one to have stolen millions. The hyperbole around Norton at the time was excruciating. The best outcome would have been to put the tainted brand to bed permanently. I have zero interest in an offshore owned and backed “heritage” brand that’s just a name.
I bought an MT07 in 2021. I saw all the videos about it and it was the bike to have at the time. I sat on the Ninja 400 and it fit me great because of the size and the weight. I often wondered how the 400 would have felt in the curves after a day of riding the MT07 in those curves. I wasn't disappointed but that thought was still in the back of my mind. So when the ZX4RR came out I wanted one. Still unsure about a new model I weighted for about 9 months. I was at the dealership one day and they had one. I was so tired of the sound of the parallel twin and wanted an in line 4 so bad. I even contemplated a ZX6R even though I would never have used most of the power of that bike. I even sat on one and it was just too tall. It was a beautiful all black bike. I had to take a picture of it. The second time I went back to the dealers I was going to buy it, then I saw they had the ZX4RR. I traded in the MT07 right there and then. I've been so happy with it, that I'm riding it every day, if I can, since buying it in November. Joy, joy.
Got my dream bike Freddy-CB 1300s. Unbelievably smooth, and Honda quality. Love it.
That is a proper dream bike!! Massive congrats😃🕺🕺
Had mine since 2009...2008 model. Love it
Bye 'eck Freddie! You're getting better and better at this talkie stuff! Had me engrossed the whole time!
Muy Bien!
I love your content - just back from passing my theory test and watching this… Mod 1+2 ahead. Keep up the great work, literally every bike you seem to review is on my shortlist!
That sofa just SCREAMS "Man Cave"
Used to nick parts off customers bikes to fix others at Norton too, some never saw their bikes again with a multitude of excuses.
I think I remember hearing this too- this has jogged my memory!😳
great session 😄
Hi Freddie, I had to comment on the new Triumph 400 series bikes, I proudly own a black 400 scrambler X. It is fabulous in all ways. I also looked at RE’s 350’s and 650’s , believe me the new 400 Triumph’s are without doubt in my mind in a different league, just look at the horse power it’s twice as much !!! Regards Clive
Visited the local Triumph dealer (Eurotek) in Oklahoma City today (April 4, 2024); the one 400 on hand was sold, the other 3 they got previously were sold before they arrived and they have multiple deposits for the next batch. I have a Sportster 48, enjoyed the video on the old Sportster you rode some time ago; although I do enjoy all your content.
The Truimph 400 seems a good option . Looks like the bike for me too. 🆒😎💪
Freddie, your enthusiasm, positive outlook, and passion for biking in all forms is infectious. I really enjoy both of your RUclips channels even though the bikes and riding are completely unlike what I have myself (I ride a 2000 BMW R1150GS and a 2018 BMW R1200GS in the countryside of Southeast Texas and consider myself very fortunate to have those bikes and the access to rural riding compared to what many people have). Nor would I want to take a 3-4 week trip to India or Sri Lanka. I spent a year as a 11-12 year old living in Lahore, Pakistan back around 1964 and that was enough of that sort of experience. If a monitor lizard had taken an interest in me and approached like that one did with you and Monika I think I would have left the country on the next thing smoking.
Excellent vid once again and a sublime selection of features. The R12 9T really gets my goat! It's heavy, air cooled (ie as basic as can be) and the BASE model, without necessary adornments, is £14.5k. Give me 3x Triumph 400s any day, for the price. BMW should get Stuart Gardner as CEO. A perfect fit.
Thanks Freddie , I can’t work out what my dream bike is , every review of modern bikes is generally positive!. I am currently enjoying my Triumph Trident and getting out on it as much as I can and grateful that I can be part of the biking life and after passing my test last year at the age of 54. the biking landscape will be very different in the next 20 years , so every moment counts now .
Positive reviews get more clicks. Every review is positive... Thought modern bikes aren't bad.
The Australian guy is one lucky chap. And Ellio is spot on too. I have a V7 and an Rt 1250 both brilliant can’t bear to part with either.
Mr. Dobbs,
Just a quick word from a fellow motorcycle gentleman - this one from Sydney (AUS).
My garage is as follows:
2011 BMW R1200GS
2020 BMW G310GS
2021 KTM 1290 Adventure S
And, my pride and joy:
2022 Vespa GTS 150
I've ridden across Australia, USA, Mexico, and Peru - all on large capacity motorcycles.
The Vespa brings me so much joy for the same reasons as REs do for you - heritage looks (and relative heritage performance).
Whilst your Triumph Bonneville will likely always be "your motorcycle" I hope that a Classic 350 finds a permanent place in your garage so that you may have that deep connection to a motorcycle - just like I do with my little black wasp.
Cheers,
Cameron
Scooters rule 😂 I done a lot of touring with my GF on scooters in India, Thailand and Indonesia. When in Rome
I remember my motorcycle driving test back in the 70's. Cones were set up on the street. I was ready, but my horn didn't work. He didn't let me test. Off I went and rode a perfect 2nd gear wheelie down the street. I saw him watching intently in my mirror. Next test after horn was fixed, he didn't even check my horn. He simply signed off on my paper and told me I didn't need to ride through the cones.
I was looking at the speed 400 only yesterday and said to my mate, they are going for RE's jugular with this and the Triumph would be my choice in the catagory!
Well Triumph is pretty good but the 400 vibrates at higher speeds compared to RE'S new 450.
They're both a run for the money but I think RE has done a better job with their engine.
@@adityan3208 I haven't ridden them as I ride bigger bikes but it's interesting what you say and will read the road tests with interest. Thanks for sharing this. Is the 450 a single or twin? 👍
I saw this coming. The Speed 400 is everyone's fun little everyday/weekend bike. It's not going to take you comfortably cross country, but it's great for riding to work or just having a great Sunday morning ride. Brilliant! I'd own one.
Passed my road test the first time on my RD400C. They put me down for "poor clutch control", but on a 2 stroke, you have to play with the clutch at low speeds or the bike will surge and buck.
It'll do long camping trips as well, it's not just a day bike.
Freddie, I’ve taken a leaf out of your book and decided to follow my heart. I’m off to Tenerife next week on a family holiday, I’ve booked a day with Easy Rider and hired the Moto Guzzi V7 - I can’t wait!
Hi. Just got back from Tenerife yesterday. My wife and I hired the black V7 850 from Easy Rider for 5 days and also had a tour day with owner Adam riding a Harley street Bob. Also stayed 3 nights on his pirate themed boat. Say hi to him (top geezer) from Mike and Anita. You'll have a great time!
@@Michaeldaran7 love it!!! Exactly the bike I’ve chosen too 😂
Yessss!!!! Have an amazing time. I promise you will love it! Plaja Benijo is a very good ride!
I have just put a deposit speed 400 in black. Very excited 😂
I did too on Feb 6, maybe 2 more months until delivery here in Phuket
The Norton story is so shocking. I love the Commando so much, despite it's quality issues and high price, it is gorgeous and I would ride it.
The R9T is woefully under appreciated
Sadly too small for me, it’s my dream bike
Freddy, I've said it before and I'll happily go on record once again... To me, it was the Vit/Svartpilen 401 that, 6 years ago, paved the way for standard / naked bike fans eager to try out how seemingly negligible displacements can still be matched with a solid power to weight ratio and ensure tons of fun. Of course, one might always argue that the OG Duke 390 was really the one to blame in the first place - and it did indeed set off an absolute frenzy in thee
Advice for Clair. If your dream is a Speed Twin 900. Don't wait go get one. Not having ridden a bike for 30 years, I did my basic skills test and got my learners permit. My Dream was a Bonneville I was worried a 900 might be to big and powerful. I stopped in at a Triumph Dealer the next morning. They had a Red 2018 Street Twin. It looked like the bike I had been dreaming off. I rode it home. It was a really nice easy bike to ride and gain experience on. You wont regret a Speed Twin 900 or a Used Street Twin if you can find one. They are really popular.
They currently have both the Speed 400 and the 400x in stock at my local Triumph dealer in the IOM.
Interesting, I’ll keep an eye on what others say about this in different parts of the country
Do they still allow more room in the cone test for scooters? I remember finding it quite tight doing my test but thankfully passed and the guy sitting the test on his scooter passed too but they widened the cones for him significantly. Might be an option for Davide - not saying you need to find a way around multiple fails but we all know that passing your bike test is only the beginning of learning to ride.
The trouble with buying your "dream bike" is that it can end up being a "garage queen" which is what happened to me. I sold it and bought a bike I liked but wasn't in love with and rediscovered what biking was all about ie "riding and the experience of the journey" not about worshipping the means of getting you there.
A good interim bike, after a Triumph Street Twin, might be a Suzuki SV650.
Hi Freddie, hope all is well
Thought you might like this as bargain of the week
The new husqvarna 401 is out, but just check out the 2023 401 models, i ve seen them advertised from £3700, that such a great price
There was a stunning Triumph Rocket 3 Touring on Auto-Trader bikes with barely 4,000 miles on the clock and for sale for £6,000
I think this represents a phenomenal bargain. 2.3 litres of stunning machine for less than the price of a midweight.....
Wow! That is a bargain!
The advert disappeared within 24 hours...I strongly suspect it sold straight away...@@triumphthunderbird1
My garage is about the same size as hummer vehicle in size. Bike one side, toolbox and washing machine the other and I can just about get my weights bench in between 😫
Freddy, it's not just triumph going mid size single,
Have a look at the Honda CB350 rs....
Only used in India at the moment but one was displayed at the Dortmund (Germany)
Bike show, so they'll be coming to Europe soon.... 😉
They’re available in Australia too.
Kawasaki Vulcan S owner for 5 years.. Bought a Speed 400 back in September here in India for $3.5K..
It’s a sweet little bike with adequate power and torque.
You should listen to Damon, if your dream bike is something unreliable then stear clear all you will do is become disappointed with riding and end up bitter and fall out of the sport. You like to give advice on your channel without thinking about this scenario, something to think about. Great videos keep them up
If you wanted a RE Classic 350, you won't want a Triumph 400 - with very little character, comparably. I really can't see how you've put them side by side, Freddie; the phrase "chalk and cheese" springs to mind. Classic riders don't buy for the BHP (I'm not one, by the way).
The comparison should have been with the RE Hunter. It’s 20kg lighter around £500 cheaper than the Classic 350 and the same format as the 400.
Interesting how the R9T is the bike of the week… I have one. Amazing bike but as a taller rider not the most comfortable. I was considering selling it and buying the Triumph 400 X. Yes that’s a big power reduction but I love the look of the 400 X and don’t ride particularly fast. I took the 400 X for a test ride on Saturday, really enjoyed the bike but really missed the build quality of the BMW. Also there has been a lot of quality issues with the 400 X, oil leaks, bad paint, immobiliser issues to name a few. I’ve decided to keep the BMW for now and maybe consider something else next year.
Hey Freddie, just wondering if you had a chance to look at the Harley 440x here in India while you were here. If you'd like I could do a short review for you for absolutely no cost 😊
These 400s are going to be great bargains in time second-hand. They are really selling and picking one up with 1000-2000 miles on the clock in a year or so is going to be a real bargain when people realise they don't want them after all
The Triumphs look a great deal. The only thing ive noticed in all the reviews I've watched is that everyone agrees they are good bikes but I've not seen one reviewer get excited or gushing about them. I think they will be the kind of bike a new license person would buy keep for a couple of years then buy something bigger.
I considered the Triumph Scrambler 400, dismissed the Royal Enfield 350 because of it's looks and weight and instead bought an immaculate low mileage eight year old Ducati Scrambler Sixty2 model for around the same price as the Triumph, the Ducati is a superior quality build and has so much to offer over the competition.
8 years would have 100k miles from me. Hope the guy who sold it was a weekend warriors.
@@logangodofcandy I have the bike's full history, two previous owners and both used it very rarely, to be honest I'll be putting less than 1k miles on it per year, it presently has just 3250 miles on the clock.
I'd love a Triumph Speed 400 as a second bike for in poor weather.
A RE 350 Meteor or Vitpilen would do equally as well in this role.
I'm done with horsepower and speed. Never thought I'd ever say that.
Freddie I have a question. Why would anybody buy a brand new bike? You talked about the new 400 Triumph for $5k or the Enfield 350 for 450 less. But here in the good old USA, you could buy a used Sportster probably with under 20k miles for 3-5k. It would be a 1000 or most likely a 1200cc that would be the old style motor and would be reliable and resale would get you most or all of your money back. Is the triumph or Enfield small displacement bike gonna hold valve? Dude you just can’t beat a lot of cc’s. I know across the pond Harley’s aren’t that cheap, but life’s to short to ride a little bike.
Interceptors are 5k plus otr at the moment and classic 350s are 3700 plus otr
The Hunter 350 might be a more apt comparison to the Speed 400. If Triumph are as smart as they seem lately, they'll milk this 400 engine. I think there'll be a Tiger 400 next, and maybe even a Bonneville 400 a little further down the line.
Buy the bike you want, and can afford, use it how and when you want. Most of all enjoy it and don't listen to others.😂
For the gentleman waiting for the 400, just buy something used, and ugly but dependable. A beat-up Honda sh300i will do well enough to get around on and will be worth the same in a few months.
My garage is 9 sq mtrs has a flat screen tv and a chair
I have a speed 400 on order which also is due for delivery in June and was ordered on 1st February....what's not to like it's 125 money .....I am sure a swift email will secure you a ride on both models to do some RUclips content on.
Where are you located? Same time frame for me in Phuket Thailand
@@freedomkata3917 Over here in the UK it's because I want blue colour if I wanted red or a scrambler 400x I could have got one much sooner..... Also UK bikes are going through triumph HQ here for inspection and quality checks which might add more time.
@nc30guy I thought it might have been quicker here as Triumph has 3 factories in Thailand. I was told this morning that I might get an idea on delivery times in May but not holding my breath. It is Thailand after all.
@@freedomkata3917 as I understand it all bikes for this model line are produced in India by Bajaj hence the time scale for delivery
@nc30guy I was under the impression they were manufactured in India and part assembled here and Brazil for the western market but I've been wrong before lol
If your dream bike is not a new model, the best thing is to buy one that has the mods you know you'll do already on it. Better someone else wastes their money on the mods, taking the loss for you. It's amazing how many people buy a bike do loads of mods then lose all that money when they move it on a year or so later. Their loss, your gain :)
I wonder if the service costs on those 400cc bikes are as stupidly expensive as they are on the rest of the Triumph range 🤔
I had the same experience when I started to ride I had a Z300 to learn on and get through to my full licence here in Australia. I upgraded to a Triumph Street Twin which I feel is a lot easier to ride so much so i thought that it would be a better bike to learn on much more stable and planted. In addition I love my street twin and I'm glad I bought it, it was that dream bike I was looking for. It's a keeper and I'm likely to get a second bike and unlikely to ever sell the street twin. For me the Bonnieville is the bike that you say to yourself "I only need this bike everything else is just excessive".
The Triumph 400 isn't a bad looking bike & power-wise smokes the RE, but only the RE looks that cool, like the olden days, when I was young, when women wanted me & men wanted to be like me, etc....
So what you're saying is in your youth you were like a RE? All looks but no substance.....and very little stamina.....I bet they never went with you twice..🤣
Don't come back Freddie. If England is anything like Scotland it constantly pissing down,what a wash out...... Enjoy the rest of your break and the sun. All the best
RE Have to de-restrict the classic 350 for the EU Market as they do in Brazil with an ECU flash or Triumph are going to leave them in the dust. 70ish mph top whack is just not safe for overtakes and holding with faster traffic on EU motorways, the Classic has the potential for 80mph, it'll always be down on power beside these but with 80mph available and, to my mind at least, far more authentic classic charm I think the little 350 can still compete for sales but only if RE pull their finger out.
Have a 2004 Honda CB400. Awesome bike!!
Both the old dudes at the start r alright. First one says take risks; second one, beware of buying a dream it might not meet your expectation. Didn’t the Missenden flyer have a hot Duke became a garage queen?
I think that the Speed 400 and the Classic are aimed at diferent demographics, Triumph may say that the 400 is a retro design but in reality it ain't. The backend looks as though the designers lost interest when they got past the seat and just settled for the least attractive design they had. You'll have to take a trip downunder Freddy, no licence worries, no long queues at counters and plenty of open space and, as you may have noticed we do things in a more relaxed way here. Mind you it would take a good month just to do Queensland and NSW. 🙂
Not surprised at all, Bajaj is the top seller in Asia AND Africa, they also make KTM 390's Etc, Triumph is last to the party, they need a bigger factory! Cheers, DINO.
Bajaj is building new factory in chakan, India
I have been to see the Triumph 400’s, they did nothing for me, they seem to have no personality. I think it is just re rebadged Bajaj. The 350 Classic on the other hand has loads of character. Very soon RE will be releasing the Hunter 450 which I feel will be worth waiting for.
Totally agree regarding the 400’s.
@Malibu_Garage Classic 350 is made in India.
Apparently the Triumph 400 is the equivalent of £2200 in India, be cheaper to fly there and ride it back! That's some mark up!
A salesman at Enfield India told me the new bullet is £2,400 in India (brand new)!
Caveat on dream bikes, most shouldn’t buy their dream bike as your first or maybe even second bike, especially if it’s a 140 HP monster you will probably total within a week. It’s ok to own a few cheaper bikes before your dream bike
BMW's leave me cold, Guzzi's too small, HD not enough power. Triumph tick the boxes, and the Rocket 3 TFC is the dream bike. 4 years in, nothing compares!
As for Norton, a long way to go but they will get there eventually.
How's it in the Twisties, though? Not like a speed twin.
@@logangodofcandy majestic! Speed Twin is ace too!
Poor old Damian. What a sad man 😢
I like the Triumph 400 Speed Twin. But won’t buy it, its seat height is too high, for me. The 900 speed twin sits marginally lower. (More feet on the ground)
Am 5 foot 4 with 27 inch inside leg. That’s my problem, together with abdominal issues.
I own the 350 Meteor, and got the seat insides changed it’s now 30mm lower.😊
I also own the Honda Rebel 500, as it’s 690mm seat, I can flat foot it, thus giving me much more confidence.
I would have the Triumph if it was 30mm lower
Those are also my dimensions and I too have had rule out the Triumph. I ride an MT 03, it’s low seat height is perfect for me, I can easily flat foot it.
holy shi7 that triumph rider was lucky if he was on that bike, that is disgusting driving and i hope the payout was HUGE ! I also reckon he was talking about a Himmy and not a classic 350, the Himmy is somewhat comparable to the 400x, the 350 is not.
Hello Freddie - I hope you are well. I clicked on this video because I test rode a Triumph 400. I was away from home, saw Triumph offering test rides on FaceBook marketing, and thought - why not, its an OK looking bike. My bike is a Suzuki gsx-f 650. With that in mind, I was really disappointed with the Triumph. It was really quite flat at low RPM and very "snatchy" when it got into high RPM. It was lightweight, but even without much bulk, the brakes were also (in my view) just mediocre. Overall, although it rode nicely, there just wasn't anything special about it at all, and were it not for your video, I'd probably have never thought about it again. Boring. Hey ho - everyone is different, we can't all like the same thing :-) Best regards, Lisa
hi Freddie , re \Triumph v RE , twice the horsepower too much tech , revvy and no doubt higher service and parts cost also built in India but trading as a british company , at least RE are simpler ,honest about their heritage and have a good reputation and proven product ,
🥱 really happy with my Speed Twin 1200.
Didn't fancy the RE 350.
Enjoy your ride.
Tobias could buy that bike for 1,500 and part ex it for the Triumph..
I don’t know what everyone sees in those Triumph 400s. They just don’t do it for me looks wise.
Stuart Garner is no better than something you would scrape from your instep.
Let me fix that title for you, “Bajaj can’t make the Speed 400 and 400 X fast enough”.
If the Hunter had 10 more bhp then it would be the perfect bike for everyone, but it doesn’t unfortunately
A bit small for those of us who have to bend down to get into the pub but apart from that you’re quite right. Very nice little piece of kit.
Here’s the thing though, the Triumph 400s do just that. A bit more power and big enough for fully grown specimen. I’m not surprised they’re selling like hot cakes.
@@903lew exactly why my Mrs and I went to try one today. She’s getting one.
Apparently the Hunter 450 will be coming -- RE are fighting back.
@@stephenmundane hopefully not too late
@@stephenmundane A Scram 450 would be quite the rival.
B.M.W. Forget the out going price Forget the in coming price just wait until you have to buy a part or if you have an issue !! Then and only then will you realize what this company is all about and trust me you will need parts and a lot of them. Even their latest has issues with the drive shafts ..The average biker can not afford to run a B.M.W. over priced trash and an arrogant company to boot in my humble opinion would not be given one !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry to be negative but someone needs to speak the truth ............
You do have a point , parts and servicing is needing to win the lottery each time , my recent oil filter change 229€ if you don’t keep to the service you’ll lose the warranty and even if you have to make a claim good luck with that they don’t like you after you parted with the wonga . They really need to be more client friendly and up the Chinese quality and lower European prices !
On paper Triumph 400 is first but when you ride it it just feels no where near as well built. Not quite a nail but it has an unfinished feel to the handling and suspension.
If Davada can't handle the test bike then he should avoid going straight on the heavy, poor handling, under performing, overpriced Harley Davison. They may look good but that's about it and after he drops it we'll there goes its only redeeming quality.
Wanting a fast 400 is kind of nonsense anyhow.
I heard 400 X is heavy of Fuel
Triumph dont make any 400………Bajaj in India does.
Not impressed with the garage that installed your cam just making your owm marks is grossly inaccurate, correctly timed you may have better performance. If I had used marks to put it back as original installation it would be 4° retarded as it was incorrectly timed from factory. Using the cam setting tool along with the tdc tool is how it should be done. Ps the times I'm getting are far better than yours.
Get your facts right Triumph do not make 400 it is manufactured in India under licence by an Indian company
Thats OK, buy a Norton instead. They’re a great British…. oh, never mind 😂
*The Europeans need to relax on their motorcycle license tests. A perfect test does NOT result in a perfect rider.*