'Made in Berlin': Voxativ loudspeakers
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2018
- Voxativ founder Holger Adler shows us around his Berlin factory where he and his team design and prototypes high-end loudspeaker drivers, magnets and cabinets.
Voxativ website: voxativ.berlin/
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Respect to this man for his hard work and vision.
Hi John: I appreciate how much a good listener you were, keeping your input to a minimum, letting the interview to follow its course. Adding other perspectives to your RUclips channel really add value to it. Thanks.
this channel is rockin’ due to factory tour videos like this
Yep, it rocks. I will never listen to regular 2-ways again. Do an a-b test with piano to hear the difference.
Thanks for introducing us to Holger. Really amazing engineer and good at explaining Voxativ’s designs. Perfect!
Great factory visit, detailed tour. Impressed by the owners openess and hands-on in every facet of the company.
Isn’t it a joy to see an innovator, lateral thinker and someone who’s not afraid to make his own path to reaching a goal with high-quality engineering, coupled with removing clutter from the design. I am now intrigued and would love to hear his loudspeakers
Such a nice humble personality.
This is insanely impressive. Two hours away from me, I have to check these out. Beautiful speaker design, very unique concepts.
Voxativ are great speakers! I'm not typically a fullrange guy but they can rock out!
Her new name is Inès Vogel now. I think she’d love if the description could reflect that. Awesome video and great insight into the amazing craftsmanship and ingenuity that goes into Voxativ products!
John Darko I just saw your video of the Voxativ factory and was pleasantly surprised by it. I enjoyed learning how these high end speakers are made and all the work required to assemble them. Mr. Holgar is very passionate about what he does and it shows. All his hard work has paid off and it drives him to improve and perfect his art. My only regret is that I'll most likely not be able to afford his art. 😔 again thank you for sharing your passion for audio. Merry Christmas. Peace
Extremely inspirational towards the end, started with 100 bucks in his pocket on his own. now its a company known all over the world ..
Amazing speakers, kudos to Voxativ!
Beautiful looking speakers that are extremely well built. Would love to hear them in person. The field coil design is intriguing. 🤔
Thanks for the factory tour!
I have to say as a speaker freak I was just admiring their work so much. Would love to have a career working with an audio group....how fascinating. And if Steve is showing us these guys well what can I say It must be exquisite.
Fichte=Spruce, in case anyone was wondering
Great tour. Really nice guy too. First class
Beautiful gear just blissful
Excellent review and fun to watch. Thanks John and Holger!
Wow great interview and walk around the factory (all be it in a residential area :))found it extremely interesting, but really just wanted to say thanks to you and your team for another really professional longer video.
Factory tours and interviews with the founders of high end audio gear is by far the more interesting content of your channel and the reason I have subscribed to it!
One of german finest at it`s best
Been to Voxativ in Berlin ...... One of my best experiences in sound/music reproduction...
Wow a true artisan and a great interview. Great products made with greater passion. Manufacturers like Holger and his team are what drives this industry forward. I may never be able to afford gear of this quality but the improvements the knowledge created by passionate manufactures like Holger will benefit everyone one day, thank you.
Don't lay your VHS tapes on those speakers :-D
Great job John! Another great video... :-)
Wow, I would love to hear one of these.
What a brilliant mind. And this was very informative. My new favorite audio channel!
Can't remember the Voxativ speakers on show at Bristol HiFi show this year , but wow what a amazing sound , it was a book shelf with a sub underneath , unbelievable . 👍
Great video John!!!
Wonderful report!so much passion and so clever
Nice to see this level of knowledge and passion.
Fantastic video, thank you so much.
9:35 Aluminum cone drivers have disappeared because they do not sound really good... Genelec, Elac, KEF, PSB, Klipsch, and I believe Infinity and several others use aluminum with ceramic, and then we have titanium with Mackie and beryllium with Focal and Paradigm. Curious what a company purely based on blind tests would say sounds the best diaphragm wise. My guess is it would have less of an effect than most would guess, but that stronger lighter materials would win out, especially at high volumes.
Genius at work.
these speakers ooze beauty and quality. AND THEY SOUND GREAT TOO... since i'm a poor man. i love the idea @16:57 to just buy the Driver and make my own set of speakers. i've seen a lot of DIY Speakers videos. it's more than a piece of wood. it involves labor. tools . and experience in Wood working to do that . great episode. thank you both.
It’s been a real treat to see this
Really inspiring!
They look great! They look a little like the first speakers I built, which were mass-loaded transmission line cabinets (similar to a Bob Brines design) with a TangBand W8 1772 driver. The ones I built were really nice, I would expect these Voxativ to be lovely (and a whole different league better)! I just love seeing people building things and being so enthusiastic about their products. I wish them all the success.
At first thought 3000 euro for an entry speaker is expensive and half way the video I think it is affordable.
Even I don't have the money.
I had once an old cheap Philips loudspeaker with a fullrange driver. It sounded very good for what it was.
Maybe some day I have again a loudspeaker with a fullrange driver.
Interesting how they are moving away from single driver and to 3 way. I think most single driver doctrines eventually realize that it’s not necessarily the single driver aspect they love, it’s simply the midrange clarity of a lightweight wide bander. If that wide bander can also add the same speed and clarity to both ends, while still properly executing a seamless xover, then it really is a better solution.
Das klingt sehr gut!
This my favourite Darko video
16:52 wish i can do this ! now i'm really thinking about making a field coil driver. great video btw. subscribed !
Also it's funny that even living in Berlin, Holger refers to "The Home Depot" when talking about buying a big sheet of wood. (Does Germany have The Home Depot?) It shows that the brand has wide reach, even if Germany doesn't have that particular home store.
No there aren't. He was trying to be helpful to American viewers.
Just seen this; super cool. It seems Berlin is a special place for HighEnd brands ;)
I enjoyed listening to Holger!
Great video, Fascinating!
This facility is so clean and organize, its reminds me a surgery room! Love this OCD!
Thanks for sharing!
Not in my lifetime, but the only speaker on my ultimate list along with the Wilson, Sabrina.
good choice for ultimates. ;-)
What a fantastic guy so honest and true and excited to be at work loves his company takes pride in his workmanship what more is there to be said PS I Love full range drivers have to go and take a listen
There is a lot to be said about German made products, such as these speakers.
Voxative ist toll!
Thanks!
I agree it's best for midrange speakers to be made of paper, or another lightweight composite material, because they have a combination of stiffness, damping, and very light weight that makes them ideal for midrange reproduction, especially at frequencies where a wavelength will physically fit on the radius of the cone, so the cone begins to break up slightly. When that happens with aluminum cones, the breakup happens at a higher frequency than paper, but it also is very severe because the aluminum metal has little to no self-damping. But for low frequencies (bass, sub-bass) aluminum really is an excellent material because the cone moves as a perfect piston, and the bass driver then has almost no character of its own, as long as the moving assembly is kept lightweight and the motor assembly is strong. And for tweeters, I still have heard no equal to the RAAL ribbon, and the "next best" is the Scan-Speak illuminator beryllium dome.
When you first start watching this video your thinking that this guy is high charging theses prices for single driver speakers. But as you go along you start to realize that these are using really high-end custom drivers from top to bottom and well thought out engineering. I do think that the prices he's charging for single driver solutions are a bit high so I can see why he's branching out to multiple driver solutions that can play a lot louder and maybe give you the big sound that big prices demand. I can hardly wait for a follow up to see How a multi driver setup sounds. One thing though is are you going to give us a sound demo of these speakers?
yes, the video does give you a better understanding about the cost . still to high....lol
very cool. I would love to hear these speakers. Please do a demo.
hear those speakers through your speakers..
You might want to go to them. Demo through RUclips does not do anything.
With that kind of attention to detail and love, passion and care,,,, I want a pair,, no question. I feel that I can ask him for the type of sound that I want and he will say 'no problem'. I actually heard a pair of Voxativ speakers a few years back being fed by a high quality valve set up......... There was no denying it, they were fantastic. Keep it up Mr D, your efforts are appreciated.
very good episode.
Brilliant 🔉🎶
Funny how a piano builder painted the boxes (cos he liked the speakers) cos he heard piano through the speakers. Piano (more than anything) shows the DIFFERENCE between point source sound and regular 2-ways. 😆 I a-b tested my single driver + woofer speakers with my B&W 706 reference speakers and the B&Ws failed obviously on PIANO!
a voxitiv speaker worth following ,a gteat product wood &paper cone intersting i would buy for sure great sound
amazing
Amazing factory tour, what a great guy love his enthusiasm.
very cool
Cool!
Completely prepared for plug and play.
I could never begin to afford even the "entry" speaker, but for something that is hand-built by enthusiasts it seems very fair, even the more expensive models. The price of things is so skewed by modern mass-production in LEDCs that we forget people have to earn a living and just how much bloody time and expertise things take to make. Clothes are an even better example than electronics.
"entry level price of €3000"
One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
It’s been said before. These guys do this because of love for the art they probably only sell them to let more ppl have the listening experience
They are audiophile speakers made by hand in workshop. They aren’t mass produced. 3000 € is reasonable.
@@estebannemo1957 sure, but $77000 a pair is not imo
@@hellobooom I have to agree. Although they are nice I would never pay that much money for any speaker no matter how much money I had. I just build my own.
What does the cone do? Produce the bass or what?
Voxitiv n hefeweizen!! Cheers from the States
Has anyone heard those 5" FIT towers? Can those be used without a sub?
What a nice guy
Interestingly, Steve just interviewed her the other day at the NYC(?) show ...
What an interesting personality - in so many ways.
I envy him. 40 years and he's still so passionate!
I wish I could afford to support this.
My dream single driver speakers (that I can't even begin to be able to afford).
good company, germans are the best speaker builders
A genius.
Nice Video and nice Chassis, i have the same dream :D Building Chassis on my own :)
Lets maybe meet in a few years :D
Hi Holger Adler, pls include bookshelf speakers...
Point source is the only way to go. With two ways the vowels of the voice sound is coming from like 20 cm apart. Not only that, the woofer and tweeter and the ear form a triangle...but with point source you just get a line. The triangle makes it easier to hear where the sound is coming from. If you had a pair of your speakers in your bedroom and you put on a rain relaxation stream overnight, the rain will convincingly sound like it's outside on the roof. That is exactly what I experience with my FR speakers.
Love this..except, i couldnt understand what the name of the first speaker he made...captions gave me 3 interpretations...1.Leather .2.Lola 3.Lourdes....oh wait theres more...Lotus...
Using thin veneer is smart, better than paper
Very interesting. Rarely do you see a company that designs engineers and build s all its components from scratch.
Only $45k? That's very reasonable.
big boys
big toys
tanx
💕💕💕
9.09 i think it's spruce
My applause to all
women in the audio industry.
3000 euro starting price wow that hurts a bit, the white coned drive units remind me of a brand of speaker that was sold here in the uk LOWTHER any one remember them ???
If you're already driving the "field coil" with DC, why not just drive it with the complement of the signal going into voice coil and waste less energy? Marketing could even go wild and call it a fully balanced speaker requiring a new fully balanced amplifier :-)
He has the enthusiasm of a child when speaking about the magnets.
🤦♀️😘
I have been building FR speakers for a while and I tested a few brands of steep cone drivers against shallow cone drivers and the shallow cones are BETTER! Way more control in the upper med (by a large measure). Yours appear to be fairly shallow for the main cone. My drivers don't have a whizzer (each to their own). But my main cone is open but near the box (not in it). So mine get the same open sound as a whizzer, without the whizzer. The speaker hole is acoustically treated (with a 2" deep tube under) to act like a bass vent. So it doesn't have that bonky sound how you would expect with such a driver mounting. Driver is mounted 1-2 cm above the speaker hole with extension screws and spacers. Easy. I use an extra woofer pointing straight down onto the floor on the very bottom of the tower box. And the bass vent med speak hole also works as a massvent for the woofer. Basically it's a FR driver placed over a woofer bass vent. I did that with cheap (modified) 3"FR drivers over my B&W 706 bass vents. And the B&W woofers fire downwards by the boxes being oddly positioned on the bench (raised with small blocks to let the bass escape from the bottom). They are bi-wire speakers (with double binding posts at the rear) so I only connected the woofer for this experiment. And used the 3" driver with the whole signal (and I added extra inductance to the woofer connection). They sound about ten times better than the B&Ws did when original! It's a temporary experiment and it is easily reversed back to the original B&Ws (without ingerfearing with them in any way).
$45,000 🤔 let me think about it.
I've decided I'll have to stick with my Klipsch for a bit longer. I'm a bit short of cash.
At first I was "How MUCH??!! What a con for a speaker with no crossover etc". Then I saw the in-house drivers :). Okay.
pi^2 is an irrational number ... (good thing he is NOT a math teacher)
3.14 x 3.14 = 9.8596
3.141592654... x 3.141592654... = 9.869604401... or 9.87 rounded to two significant figures. That's why the systems called 9.87, because he can do math...and you can't.
Holger: "If you look in the market most aluminum cone drivers have disappeared because they do not sound good" -- what "market" is he speaking of? Aluminum cones used by e.g. KEF, ELAC is the market compared to speakers no one's ever heard about, or heard, and are so overpriced no-one ever will hear them.
I'm guessing your speakers have aluminium drivers.
I am sure there are some real hi end stores around your area...
Since he sells in a different market then Kef and Elac, I would assume yes. This guy hand makes his own speakers and the components! "Overpriced no-one ever will hear them"? You will one day, when inverations from manufacturers like this one trickle down into products that average consumer will buy and enjoy. Just like the aluminum cones did in the KEFs and the Elacs. Plus aluminum is a good reliable stiff material to make a consistently performing speaker for a quality mass market. Not knocking aluminum, I own metal coned speakers and enjoy them.
Elac manufactures paper cones. The aluminum foil is glued to the edge of the bottom paper cone.