Joe Montana is for me the G.O.A.T. Tougher era and most importantly he didn't CHEAT. Tom Brady DID. The media doesn't talk about it, want to forget about it.
So are the leather helmet guys with no protection the goats? I mean they played in the hardest era? And yes Brady cheated but that was only a few select games in his career. Most of his games tho are clean
@@Bahala_Nah NOPE. the athletes were not comparable. the athletes in Montana's era and now were almost no difference, Especially a few who are still more Elite than anyone before or after they played. CONTEXT is what you people need to consider when discussing these GOAT conversations. RULES and caliber of Athletes are points of CONTEXT people forget about or like to ignore when it comes to MONTANA & MICHAEL JORDAN. the league was probably over 50% white when Unita's played. Most of those guys were not great athletes and couldn't crack the start line up on top ten NATIONAL high school teams now. Like Jim Brown who i respect but can never legitimately consider GREAT because the majority of the time he played he was the fastest guy on the field and he was only a 4.5 40 guy. he was also 80% of the time in the top 10 biggest guys on the field every time he played a game and he was only 6'2'' and 225lbs. he wouldn't have had those numbers in the Montana era and post Montaña eras. The best Athletes of Johnny U's time were Olympians, in the MLB and Boxing (both black and white) They were not playing football. Johnny U's ERA was not a tougher era. the toughest ERA was from 1982 until about 2003.
Joe Montana played football when QB’s didn’t have all the rules to protect them like today. Tom Brady has been overly protected by officials in the last 5 years or more of his career as well. Joe Montana is “ The GOAT” in my eyes.
Hard to argue with Brady’s resume but Joe did it in a much tougher era of defense where QBs were not protected like they are today and Montana took an absolute beating
@@mk8530 My bad, but very true. But players have evolved since the 30's 40's and 50's into the physical specimens that they are today as well as the 80's and 90's when the rules regarding quarterback hits were a lot different. No helmuts back in those times is just crazy. I wonder how many football related deaths or impairments occurred during the old days and I'm sure that played a major role in stiffening up the safety standards. Actually, I recall now that that's why they upgraded the protective equipment. Those guys were beasts.
Belicheat and the Cheatriots cheated to get most of Brady's rings. And so did Tom Brady. So, most of those rings don't count. My Tiger Kung Fu...is better than yours...I don't think you're good enough...to avenge your master...
A decision NOT made by Russ but well-executed by Russ. Ricardo Lockette needs to eat his well-deserved bowl of sh!t for blowing that play, and the LoB needs to eat theirs for giving up the 12-point 4th quarter lead Russ built. Nobody talks about that because they just want to hate on Russ.
Lol, yep. What kinda AI crap is this? I do think Montana is the best QB I’ve ever seen (though Mahomes is right there as well), but I don’t need a computer to tell me that🤣
the receivers were getting blasted too and you can't hit them like that too anymore and you can't jammed them at the line. by around 2003 they started to change all those rules. you look how Brady's numbers increased after that.
@@JoelCrump-uc9by He says Brady has 6 Super Bowl rings at 2:25 , he then says Brady has 5 rings at 6:20, and how many times does he mispronounce Vinatieri?
@@dbrownporecords He says Brady has 6 Super Bowl rings at 2:25 , he then says Brady has 5 rings at 6:20, and how many times does he mispronounce Vinatieri?
One thing not mentioned here is that Tom was never hit the way Joe was. look at the caliber of defenders trying to take his head off Lawrence Taylor, the ‘85 Besrs, Steve Atwater. Jack Lambert, Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, and.. injuries that would have killed normal mortals, Randy White, etc.
He took some similiar hits and he didn't look too good. Remember his first Superbowl playoff run? The Raiders Charles Woodson hit were he got blasted and fumbled and the REFS cheated and said he didn't fumble. Then in the AFC championship game the Steelers laid so much wood on his a.... he got knocked out of the game and Drew Bledsoe who he replaced that year had to come off the bench and threw the only TD in that game. They were a ground and pound team until around 2003 when they started to make all the rule changes on blasting the QBS and wideouts. and jamming the e=receivers at the line of scrimmage. if Tom played under the Montana ERA rules we wouldn't be having this stupid debate right now.
Brady is below Montana for these simple reasons - 1) he didn't even deserve to BE in the super bowl against the Rams and got there due to the refs clearly rigging it against the raiders and THEN they rigged the super bowl even (btw EVERYBODY knows the tuck rule game was a rig job) 2) It's a documented fact that the patriots' knew their opponents' signals in their first three super bowl wins 3) the super bowl vs the chiefs was rigged by the refs and the bucs shouldn't have even made the playoffs that year and only did due to a rigged ball placement in a game that decided the division for them; God knows how many other rigged games the pats have been handed; 4) based on rigging and cheating alone, tom brady does not deserve at least four of his super bowls and it STILL took him 20 years to win the 3 that he MIGHT have deserved credit for winning 5) the seahawks actually goofed away one super bowl and he only won due to their gaffe 6) If the QB protection rules were the same, montana would've played longer and probably would've completed the giants game to complete the 3-peat in 1990 for a fifth super bowl in a MERE decade, god knows how many other super bowls he would've won. Joe Montana is the GOAT!
Quarterbacks are so protected by rules today compared to back then. If Montana never got injured, he would have at least another 3 or 4 super bowls with the niners
scottx4813, You forgot to consider that the rules also protected the OPPOSING QBs like Peyton Manning whom Brady had to face almost every season in the playoffs. The same goes for the rules in Montana's era also affecting BigBad Jeff Hostettler that Joe Montana had to beat in his playoff runs.
Montana was 4-3 in Conference Championship Games! Brady won as many Super Bowls as Montana appeared in the Conference Championship Game . . . he HAD his chances; he just fell short!!!!
@@williamsweeney3215 It's not a cheat if everyone is doing it, and everybody was doing it, and thats on Jerry anyway, but I really don't remember Jerry with stickem all over him ever, he was a pretty clean cut dude, and you can mostly tell who was gluing, and who wasn't gluing. It was literally all over them there was no hiding the stuff.
@@mikehunt40he admitted to using it and every team has cheated lots of spy gates out there the nfl made a example out of the Patriots but all teams did it . They didn’t invent the tactics it has been used for ever . Can we at least agree the dude in the video has no idea what he talking about . Brady has 7 rings and didn’t have the talent around him that montana had. Brady had 2 or 3 hall of fame carears 😂 but i mean of your a 49ers fan I understand wanting to goat him but i mean sorry theres only one goat and its tom brady. Funny how bias he was like when tom 1 it was the other team gifting him the wins lol joe did it he earned it 😂
@@mikehunt40”it’s not a cheat if everyone is doing it” Okay, then why are you trying to say Brady cheated? Spygate was being done all over the league by every team, and everyone knows how stupid deflategate was. Brady’s cheating allegations are so stupid it’s actually funny that you’re trying to use them in an argument
No offense, but this guy lost me when he said Brady has won six Super Bowls and when he mispronounced Adam Vinatieri‘s last name. I can’t watch anymore after that.
I think it might be AI generated. The narration was definitely an AI voice, and I think maybe the content too. Later in the video, it said that Brady only had one more ring than Montana. So Brady went from 6 rings to 5. It also butchered the pronunciation of Boomer Esiason's name.
@@Jayhawker2000 Wow, I didn’t even think of that. That would make sense, and now I might have to go ahead and watch the rest just to see how badly they butchered “Esiason”.😄
@@Jayhawker2000 That was hilarious. Remember Bill Romanowski on the sidelines with his tackle box of ugh........ We'll just say vitamins! The Super Bowl 55 to 10 blowout of the Broncos was a hard MVP to pick. Yes Jerry Rice had 5 TD catches thrown to him by Joe Cool. Is it tougher to throw them or catch them? Either way Joe and Dwight in "The Catch" are immortalized forever! Rest Easy DC.
Imagine Montana in the salary cap era. If you split Brady’s career in half each TB either competes with or surpasses JM, and that’s with an ever changing team, across multiple decades. You can’t just say “Well if they played back then,” because they DIDN’T play back then, and we have no idea what’d happen if you transplanted a quarterback into a different era. All we can know is how they performed in the era that they played, as opposed to their peers. Tom Brady was not the only QB benefitting from the new rules, and yet nobody has even come close to doing what he’s done in the time frame that he played.
No. Montana had more hall of famers around him on offense and defense and he did absolutely nothing when he played for KC yet Brady reasurected Tampa Bay
I noticed no one answered the question. Brady has played with hall of famers as well. The defense won those first few super bowls. A non hall of fame receiver won mvp for one of them. 2 of Brady's super bowls were due to inept coaching. Atlanta and Seattle.
@@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212Brady Won championships through 3 different rule changes it didn't matter....and if they helped QB's so much why was he the only one winning? 😂
@@keysersoze5920 The excuse is claiming it was cheating, even though it literally was a rule. I'm not even a patriots fan lmao, it's just that was the rule.
@@tamezzodiac2862 It was clearly a fumble, period, hence the rule did not apply nor is it in the NFL rule book anymore. And the Pats are notorious cheaters.
I know NFL guys are bigger today than in the 80s, a linebacker from 1984 might be the size of a safety today, but I still think Joe Montana would be some kind of stand out star player in today's game. At 6'2 he's still modern QB height, even if most dudes are 6'4 or 6'5. The players might have been a bit smaller, but they were far more brutal back then.
I like how he tries to make it out that Brady did it only because he had all this help and Joe did it all by himself. Why there was a full team on the other side of the ball every time Joe played and he did it all by himself. He hiked the ball, he dropped back, he threw the pass, he went and ran really fast and then caught it too and then he even ran and scaored TD's and he kicked the extra points and he even did the special teams. Dude was amazing. He's like the equivalent of John The Baptist of Football lol @@Brownskidmarksonmyunderwear
Excellent assessment! Joe was more athletic, played during a time when quarterbacks were destroyed every other play, and made extremely difficult passes look easy. Watch a highlight reel of Brady and Joe back to back and you'll see what I mean. Joe was capable of putting incredibly difficult passes right on the money. And carried a defeated 49er team on his back to victory time and time again. To me Joe is still the GOAT.
look at Bradys arm strength. Joe himself admitted if he had been drafted by the Raiders who relied on the deep pass,he'd been a career backup. Joe went to the right team at the right time
@@kingfish4242 49ers typically had one of the lighter offensive lines in the NFL. Montana's protection wasn't great. The West Coast Offense was designed for more movement and speed than power and protection. There simply wasn't a lot of time to sit back and throw deep passes in the pocket for Montana as it was on the verge of collapsing against the better NFL defenses. Another underrated aspect of Montana was his mobility to extend the play. Brady always had a plethora of pro-bowlers on his offensive line.
It was a pretty bad video. He/it mispronounced names and couldn't decide whether Brady won 5 or 6 Super Bowls (he actually won 7). The voice narration was definitely AI generated. I'm not sure whether the content was AI generated or if a human created the script. If it's the former, then it would be a pretty impressive video for an artificial intelligence. It would mean AI has now advanced to the point where it can convincingly impersonate a human idiot.
Yea, all the while never really being tackled because the NFL is soft, baby, sissy ball these days. Tom Brady not tough enough to play when Montana played. Montana actually got sacked for real. Defensive players today 'pull out" of tackles so they don't get a flag. Sissy ball garbage modern day NFL.
2 minutes to go. Down by 5. On your own 20.In their prime, you have Montana and Brady on your sideline. I'm going Montana every time. Mr.Clutch. The Giants had Brady's number.
@9999deoxys "lowly" Steve Young... yeah you have no clue what your talking about. And Montana overrated? I gaurantee your a kid or teenager and all you've seen are clips. You've never watched those game's as they happened. Because if you did you'd know Montana is FAR from overrated and Steve Young isn't "lowly" either 😂. And your other comment... a "measly" 4 Superbowls lol. He won those 4 in only 9 years buddy. That's less than a decade. We get it, your a Brady fanboy. But be realistic and give the other greats their just due. You just sound like either an uneducated fan that's never watched Montanas or Youngs games... or you just ride Brady a little too much. The only thing Brady has on Montana is longevity.
@@9999deoxys If I am not mistaken, when Steve Young retired he had the Highest Career Passer Rating and is still in the top 20 all time, also holds the record for most touchdowns in the Super Bowl with 6. Pretty sure Montana was screwed out of at least 2 rings while at KC when Marty decided Marcus Allen was going to get 60 carries a game in the AFC championship...twice.
Of course it is. you do not under what context is that it why you don't think it is debatable. You are just like all the Lebron fans over Jordan. Context my friend. it's a quarterback and wide receiver friendly ERA. Those rules didn't exist back then and free agency just opened up the last few years he played and he was all broken up. If Brady played in Joe's era he would have been lucky to have won one superbowl. he played under the Joe ERA rules in the in the 1st two superbowls he was in and after that they stop letting you destroy Quarterbacks and receivers with the vicious hits they use to put on people. and you couldn't jam the receivers at the line like before. Look at how his numbers started to explode after 2003. He almost didn't even play in his first superbowl. The Steelers put so many evil hits on his a..... the Guy he replaced Drew Bledsoe had to come off the bench and save the day and Threw the only TD that day for them and finish that game. They cheated most of those superbowl appearances and barely eeked out wins (although the Tampa one was super legit ) and the 1st superbowl appearance year they cheated the game before the Steelers game where he didn't finish because of vicious hits got destroyed By Charles WOODSON from the raiders when he got blasted and fumbled and they said it was not a fumble. If Joe played under those rules there would be no Brady talk now and RICE'S NUMBERS would have been ridiculous and Steve Young wouldn't had a career. Montana's problem was taking those vicious hits that are no longer allowed. Guys like Brock Purdy and Kyler Murray would not be able to play. Drew Brees Career was Over. i thought he was done because they were slinging him around and destroying him. His shoulder was shot. He went to New Orleans and that is around the time when they made all the new QB and WR RULES. tHAT IS WHY teams back then didn't like to draft QBS Drew Brees size only 6' and if they did it would be late late 1st at the highest. Brad is a statute and would not have survived more than 10 years in the league under the old rules. The Patriots were a ground and pound team his first 3 years starting until they changed the rules. So Maybe your right it is not debatable that Joe is the GOAT. This video just didn't do a good job with making clear and easy points
Well, I still say that if the hitting the quarterback rules were the same when players like Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman and Steve Young played as those rules are now, who knows how many more rings those guys would have. I heard Steve Young say once on Monday Night Football: "All I'm saying is, I just wish the quarterback rules were the same when I played like they are today". Then, on an HBO Sports program with Dan Marino and Boomer Esiason, I heard Boomer say: "If the rules for hitting quarterbacks were the same when we played like they are now, me and Dan could have played another 11, 12 years". And then I saw an interview with the great Lawrence Taylor, and he said: "I wouldn't be able to hit players today the way I could back when I played. That's one of the reasons that quarterbacks can play so long now days". And all of these players played in what they called "The School of Hard Knocks", so they all know what they're talking about. So, unless you're a person who actually played in this league, you can't dispute what any of them have said.
Back in the 70s and 80s it was easy for teams to hold and keep a competitive advantage for their team for decades. With no salary cap and less free agency, the 49ers pretty much enjoyed being stacked as a team with a stable nucleus that kept adding pieces for entire decades. Tom Brady had to constantly adjust to new receivers, etc. on his teams. Tom Brady didn't have the luxury of having a Dwight Clark, Jerry Rice, John Taylor, etc.
@@programmingwithmesh1285 But you still have to remember that he still had help and advantage with those quarterback rule changes just like Laurence Taylor and all the others have said. None of those players had that luxury.
@@LeviAWilson If you are comparing their win-loss records then it makes no difference because the lax rules in the 80s meant the Montana's 49ers all-star all-pro defense could slaughter the opposing QB's thus making it easier for Montana to win those games. Montana had one of the deadliest safeties on HIS team (Ronnie Lott). Montana benefitted from having Ronnie Lott being allowed to massacre the opposing teams QBs and Receivers and Running Backs. This helped Montana gain an advantage from a win-loss standpoint. Meanwhile, Brady's teammates were not allowed to lay a finger on Peyton Manning, so Peyton Manning lit up the Patriots after the rule change. The rule change actually made it tougher for Brady to beat Manning. Notice how before the rule change on DBs being allowed to touch WRs Brady owned Manning, but then the NFL changed the rules so the Patriot DBs got flagged for even breathing on Marvin Harrison, so Marvin Harrison scored like crazy on the Patriots after that rule change. Do you not even see the TWO sides of things??? You are only focusing on ONE side and ignoring the other side that has the opposite effect.
@@programmingwithmesh1285 Hay, take it up with Lawrence Taylor, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Boomer Esiason and several other major football players who have all said that. They know what they're talking about because they played the game and they all said it, not me, I'm just agreeing with them.
I love Joe Montana and what he did with the 49ers . But he wasn't half of what Tom Brady was in the NFL . Brady was alot more than a QB . He was a QB / Head Coach / GM / Offensive Coordinator / Player Recruiter / Player Developer / Player Evaluator / Game Planner for a SB Champion Team in the AFC and NFC . Unheard Of / Unparalleled Brady has Records that Joe never even came claose to . Here are the Reasons Brady is the NFL QB GOAT by miles Only QB to Win SB MVP with two of the worst All Time Winning Percentage Teams in Sports history . Pats and Buccs . Most Starts , Wins , Comebacks ever Won SBMVP in the AFC and NFC First ever to Win SBMVP in Home Stadium 7 Rings in 10 SBs Created Two Dynasties for one team in 19 years 96 Percent of Bill Belichik's All Time NFL Post Season Career Head Coaching success was because of Brady . Brady retired with just about every All Time Regular Season , Playoff , and SB Record Brady beat all 30 Teams at least once . Brady has TWICE as Many Conference Title Games / Wins as Montana Case Closed
Numbers don’t lie Love that you touched on tainted games and reliability on the oppositions mistakes Very accurate I saw every game joe Montana played early ones live Also saw Tom Brady’s via tv you make a very accurate point Well done sir!
It's not even close Brady's better and pretty much every head-to-head matchup by far this is like a fancy way of saying I don't like Brady so I'm just going to convince people lol
@Stephen-to7jx Because the rules of today are made for sissies and the NFL is soft garbage. So, Tom, would not have been tough enough to survive back then. He is used to DE "pulling up" so as not to hurt him and get a flag. The NFL is laughable sissy ball now with soft babies including Tom Brady. Sissy.
Brady played in the era with the fastest most dangerous defensive teams what are you talking about! These dudes now days are 276 pounds and fast as could be the old players wasn’t on the level of these guys now it’s so obvious
joe had the greatest offensive biased coach of all time. and deflategate was a one time thing that was actually proven incorrect in court (air temperature expansion physics lined up perfectly with the PSI). the only other thing was spygate, which was also a one time thing
Tom Brady. I'm not a Patriots fan either. But when you win 7 Superbowls and all of the other things he has done record wise and did it with 2 different teams. Montana played on 2 teams and couldn't win it on both teams. Montana is good no doubt.
@@chriswalls5831 Brady does for sure but Montana has NO Cheating allegations..Montana played in an Era where the rules didn't Cater to the offense..I hate SF but to me Montana will ALWAYS be the true 🐐🐐
@@beastunleashed8839 Dude, I used to pick up local 49ers media. During all that DeflateGate nonsense, the 49er players were on record on local media bragging/laughing at how the 49ers got away with lots of cheating, e.g. Jerry Rice wore stick em, their linemen wore PAM on their jerseys to make them slick, their groundskeeper intentionally made certain spots of Candlestick Park slippery so that only the 49ers knew where the slippery parts were, etc. etc.
@@beastunleashed8839 If you refer to deflategate you have to read Mike Florio article on the cover up the NFL performed on the data on ball pressure they collected on during the following year of the scandal.
How long did it take Bradshaw to get 4 rings? Granted he arguably along for the ride. Definitely the greatest dominating defense that lasted six seasons.
@@KorithStoneheart as good as that defense was, Montana had his moments. He was really good at football. As good as those defenses were he lead those last minute drives to beat Cincinnati twice. He was driving that bus. And he doesn't seem to be a super likable person. But he was excellent at football. Oh yeah. His offensive line was a bunch of aliens. They were huge and intimidating. That's what I remember most in the game vs Dallas with The catch. That his offensive line made me the Dallas defensive line look like children. They were so huge. Seriously. I saw it broadcast original. They were amazing. Secure pocket for sure.
Bradshaw did it in 6 years. he was 4-0 in the SB in 6 years and was followed by Joe who achieved the same thing. But like I said before in terms of championships, volume supersedes efficiency and anyone who thinks different is a failure. Brady is the GOAT. 4-0 is not better than 7-10 lol If you think it is then you need to go back to grade school.
@@beatnikbytes I don't believe longevity is more important than brilliance and mastery. I consider Isaiah Thomas's bad boys pistons the finest championship team of my viewing experience. They were only the best for three years. Brady was outstanding for most of his Superbowl games. Not all. Like Terry Bradshaw had a couple of good games but the defense was the feature. Curt Warner taking a second team to the Superbowl is more impressive to me than Troy aikmen riding Emmett Smith to three. Emmet Smith's three Superbowls do impress me as much as Russ Grimm's three Superbowls. We give quarterbacks a lot of credit. Russ Grimm's hogs took three different quarterbacks to Superbowl wins. That I find second behind Brady taking whole different rosters in New England and then a whole different team that he built with just networking and magnetism to Superbowl wins. It's not the seven total. It's how he got to 7 that I find amazing. And yes even the losses. I think Bruce Smith and Thurman Thomas getting to 4 Superbowls is more impressive than Brett favre taking credit for Desmond Howard winning one. I do think Desmond Howard with Reggie White is more impressive than Brett favre for that Superbowl. Like the Tampa Bay defense was more impressive than Brady in that Superbowl but Brady did recruit most of those guys which to me is more impressive than his play on the field. Brady is the goat of all goats for building that team.
this is a really stupid way to look at things lol yeah, I mean he was really good in one game but ho hum in another game and it was only because of the defense that they won it. Well, newsflash. It is a TEAM SPORT the fact that 1 player played in all of those games with all of those different rosters simply means that this player was a part of that team and was on the roster for 10 championship level teams and was on the roster for 7 championship winning teams. It realyl wouldn't matter if he was a punter, or punt returner or whatever lol But as it stands he is in the most high profile of any football position which is the QB slot. The QB is more often than not a significant contributor or detractor to any team. It doesn't matter if he threw 7 interceptions or if he threw none. It doesn't matter if he had 400 passing yards or 80. It doesnt matter if he went 16-17 in passes or 1-12. none of that matters. When it comes to championships for team sports it takes the whole team and the fact that he was a significant contributor to his team that many times and even came back from a 27-3 deficit to mount the largest comeback in SB history is amazing. When it comes to champions, volume supersedes efficiency and anyone who thinks different doesn't have the mindset of a champion. The winners focus on winning and the losers focus on the winners. That's the truth and that's what separates the greats from the others. The wheat from the chaff. the legends from the food for the fire. lol @@mandelharvey3429
It’s not real football. The playoffs games are fixed for entertainment and viewing. Brady and Montana are not even top 5 all time qbs. You’d have to at least put Elway, Manning, Marino, and Rodgers ahead of them. Surely another one too
@@realmusicrealartist4899 haha TB 12😁😁It’s fake brother, WWE. Watch it on Sunday this season, you’ll see all the doinked field goals, the late game fumbles, the overtime games that almost never existed years ago like it does now. The interceptions where a receiver isn’t within 5 yards of the ball and there is a quarterback getting paid 25 million dollars a year to throw it to them accurately. Come on now, It’s a soap opera with storylines.
@@connorclarke1218 I am 43yrs old been watching football for a long time, I think people are just mad that TB12 was the Freddy Kruger of the league and he beat up in yall favorite teams for 20 plus years 😂
@@realmusicrealartist4899 well maybe 20 years ago it wasn’t as fake but it was still super rigged. The tuck rule in 01’ was absolutely rigged for TB12, as was the game winning drives he got a chance to win the Super Bowl in 01’, 03’, and 04’. Totally fake champion. The Seattle Super Bowl with the Malcolm Butler interception had to be faker than a Bret Hart Hulk Hogan match. Even the ones Brady lost were super fake. The fake fumble in the 4th quarter against Philadelphia. The David Tyree catch when the play should’ve been marked dead. So much fake stuff it baffles me that grown adults don’t see it or I guess can’t see it.
Todays game is about speed and finesse. Back in Joe Montanas day it was still about viscious hitting intimidation and violence. Many of todays NFL players could never play or make it on those brutal teams of the past.
Brady would have never survived let alone win super bowls playing for a team in the AFC Central. Only one quarterback made it through those war years. Roethlisberger. Every other quarterback either got hurt or was traded. Brady played in the WEAKEST division in football for twenty years.
This is an absurdly stupid video, the fact that you spent money to advertise it shows that even you don’t believe in its true message and you are trying to buy views to make your sad attempt seem anything but futile.
Brady wouldn't survive the hard hits of Montana's Era of football. The guys late hit quarterbacks every play almost compared to today's standards of not being able to sneeze on a quarterback without a penalty. Completely different times between Brady and Montana in the face of "protecting quarterbacks". If roles were reversed, Montana would have field day with today's NFL, just like the LeBron and Jordan debate
The league enabled Brady and the Patriots to become the face of the league for patriotic reason’s following 9/11, starting with their first Super Bowl win in 2001, over the highly talented St. Louis Rams that had 6 potential future Hall Of Famers on the roster. A Super Bowl, where it’s alleged they video taped the walk throughs of the Rams last practices before the game …..After that, the league had the refs protect Brady at all costs. Literally changed the rules based off of his injuries. Of course you will get all of the records, if other players in the league are scared they’ll get penalized for hitting you too rough…..Montana played in a much tougher league, and still didn’t lose a Super Bowl.
Defenses during Montana's time were allowed to truly hit the QB and they did hit the QBs. Just look at Theismann's injury from the Taylor hit which caused Theismann's retirement. It was a more bruising NFL during that time and Montana still got 4 SBs in less than 10 years. He is rhe GOAT.
01. Most Super Bowl Appearances: Brady 02. Most Super Bowl Wins: Brady 03. Most Conference Championship Appearances: Brady 04. Most Conference Championships: Brady 05. Most Division Titles: Brady 06. Most Passing Touchdowns: Brady 07. Most Passing Yards: Brady 08. Most Pass Attempts: Brady 09. Most Pass Completions: Brady 10. Longevity: Brady The stats speak for themselves!
@@keysersoze5920 "Deflate Gate" has already been debunked. Isn't it odd that the Patriots scored MORE in the second half of the game against the Colts???
@@keysersoze5920 I know it's hard for you to accept that Montana is now 2nd to Brady; hell, I was a BIG Montana fan too! But Montana NEVER had the revolving door of teammates that Brady did, and he NEVER had to play within the "salary caps" that teams do today. Anybody who diminishes the greatness of one, diminishes the greatness of the other!
If you see montanas adjusted playoff stats cuz of the era it is wild how clutch he was blowing everyone away including brady just a james bond type of main character
😂😂😂😂they've all conceded to Brady...there's no deep dive needed, Joe said it, Peyton said it, Rodgers said it, this debate has been dead for like 5 years now
They were all being nice. How can anyone be better than the older players when you are not allowed to sack the quarterback anymore or tackle a wide receiver. Baby ball nowadays. Tom Brady is the king of sissy ball.
STOP IT Brady played with more talent (Moss, Gronk, Revis, Welker, Evans, McGinest, Law, Seymour, Dillon, Harrison, Chandler Jones, Bruschi, Wilfork, Gilmore, David, Vinatieri, Slater) and more top 10 defenses than anybody (19) lmaooooo like why do we ignore this
@@TheRealRickyShowthat talent wasn’t consistent Gronk injured a shitton Moss was there for what 2 years and welker dropped a catch in the SB as for evans he was at the end everyone agrees Tom was making shit happen with nobody’s for what a 10-12 year stretch even did 28-3 without Gronk
@@TheRealRickyShowthe defense don’t mean anything unless you got a top 10 offense too Tom funded the defense for 20 years no other QBs did so and he carried the defense even they admitted it be it clutch play or great games in the playoffs not to mention Joe Played with the Number 1 Defense and offense in a time with no salary cap or with the best Head Coach at the time and Ronnie Lott top 2 Safety and Steve young played and won a SB
@@TheRealRickyShowbrady played with moss for one season. gronk is the only receiver you can statistically make an argument for being an elite receiver no matter who he played for, and gronk was only an above avg receiver. hes the GOAT TE because hes also an elite blocker
@@insmileyfacemur4242because he beat your team and you're butt hurt it's that simple I'm a lions fan so I know how it feels to lose but it doesn't mean Brady is a cheater lol
The League (made) a Tom Brady: Montana made (himself). And yet Montana called Marino a better Quarterback; even after winning a Super Bowl against him.
Tom has 7 SB rings, Joe has 4. Tom won a SB with a 2nd team late in his career, Joe did not. Tom played during the salary cap era. Joe played when teams could stack their rosters. Case closed, Tom is the GOAT.
You forgot to add...the only reason Tom lasted so long to win 7 rings is due to the tremendous rule changes. In the previous eras, Brady would have lasted under 10 years. FACTS.
@@SamWestingOne of the NFL's rules is often called “The Brady Rule,” as it was added after a season-ending ACL injury to New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in 2008. This rule states that a defensive player who hits a quarterback below the knees when one or two feet are on the ground will be penalized for a personal foul and a 15-yard penalty.
@@dmvbay2535Using your reasoning, Terry Bradshaw is the GOAT. 4x SB champion playing under 1970s rules that were even less protective of QBs than in the ‘80s. Montana is still not the GOAT, no matter what!
@@SamWesting That's your opinion. Not mine, buddy. There is no comparison between the two except for number of Superbowl victories. That's it. Joe had more NFL MVP titles, SuperBowl MVPs, Pro Bowls, 1st and 2nd team All Pro votes than Terry had. Joe also was the NFL passing completion leader 5 times!! Terry = 0. Joe led the NFL in QBR twice..Terry = 0. Joe was also NFL player of the year and Terry never had that luxury. So, no Bradshaw is not the GOAT. Try again.
Different era's. Brady played in an era where the rules were made for the offense and you can't even touch the QB. Montana played when it was open season on QBs. The defense could destroy QBs. That's all the reasons you need. The real question is, could Brady have played the same era as Montana? We all know Montana could play and would thrive in Brady's era.
THIS^. Most likely yes because he's a big guy but no way does he have a 22 year career. He'd be plagued with constant knee injuries because of how you could go for the QBs knees. He would've been out of the league by his 10th season. Montana had two back surgeries during a 10 year span and still won 4 rings. So I don't wanna hear about any Montana was fragile argument. If you're mentally tough enough you'll come back from anything.
Top 5 QB’s for me. You can put them in order of how much they ment to the team they played with and their individual skills that really helped their team. Those five QB’s might not have been as successful if they played on another team. So, the five QB’s I have in random order are: Brett Farve, Dan Merino, Tom Brady, Joe Montana and John Elway. They all set records in their time.
The best example is the 49ers vs eagles in 89. The eagles was punishing montana with 5 sacks in the 1st half & Montana was still able to put his team on his back & come back from behind & win . The giants proved in both SB'S if you put pressure on Brady early he won't as effective
2 takeaways: missed reason # 1. Rule changes. In Montana’s day, anything goes on defence. Hits he absorbed would be illegal know. The secondary could do anything. If Jack Lambert said QB’s wore skirts in the 1970’s I couldn’t imagine his take on QB rules today. #2. Please stop comparing Brock Purdy to Joe. As a die hard SF fan, that’s just stupid.
Yall act like Montana didn’t play for one of the most loaded teams in nfl history 😂😂😂 Brady is the goat he has 3 rings being a “ game manager” and 4 rings being that guy he’s completely the goat
Brady didn't have "loaded" teams? With cheating and defleated footballs? His 3 titles in the 2010s were all giveaways. Heck, he went to Tampa Bay where everyone ran to him, talk about "loaded" where back then ya got "hit" ya didn't play 2 hand touch until age 45.
@@Ballinbmac Can't be jealous of a man who cheats. I love how you humans in society accept cheating. Astros cheat to win the series, yet people still accept it. You humans are stupid.
I 100% totally agree with you. The thing I didn’t realize, being a 49er fan is Joe Montana beat (3) MVP’s that should have been his, at least two of them for sure, in 1981 and 1984.
I just think it's way too hard to say who the greatest of all time was. Too many different eras, too many different way the games were played. I know that Tom Brady has more Super Bowls but he also played almost twice as long.....if i had to pick a quarterback with 2 minutes to go to get a TD, I would pick Staubach. Montana and Brady would be right up there though.
Exactly what I’ve always thought. Joe was just better. Didn’t reallize Brady’s numbers were that bad but I did always wonder about Brady’s Superbowl wins, especially Seattle.
We all have recency bias. There's no doubt that both of these guys are great. Tom Brady's 7 championships appear to be the gold standard. However, if you're going to have this discussion--you should include Otto Graham who played 10 years and made it to the Championship game every year, AND won it 7 times. I think Joe and Tom would say that'll get it done. While the overall numbers won't look the same, consider if Graham played in today's era his passing numbers would be increased and if Tom played in Otto's era his numbers would be deflated. Also, Brady has noted that with the rule changes that have essentially eliminated hitting the quarterback, he would not have been able to play as long. Just a little food for discussion!
No there is no recency bias. Teams now a days would absolutely destroy teams in Otto grahams era for the same reason babe Ruth would striked out in todays MLB. The players evolved. New passing schemes, new defensive schemes, new technology, new trainin, etc. Otto grahams era was ass compared to now a days. It’s not “recency bias” lol it’s y’all living in the past and can’t accept that Tom Brady is the undisputed GOAT.
Oh ffs - Tom Brady, Joe Montana, me, your mom, and your cousin Elmo's prize cow have all won exactly as many NFL Championships - zero. Teams win championships, not the QB. That BS idea that you can determine who the GOAT is by counting rings is stupid and lazy. There's no objective way to determine who's actually the GOAT, but ask yourself who you'd want at QB if the clock reads 1:57 in the fourth quarter, you have the ball at your own 12 yard line and you're down by six points. You want Brady? Montana? Peyton Manning? Dan Marino? Mahomes? Bart Starr? Unless your answer is Timothée Chalamet, you've got a case.
This is ther most honest, informative video i have ever seen on who the actual goat is, ive been saying a lot of this stuff for a long time but i am glad someone put the obvious to video. Good job. GO JOE
Both quarterbacks are exceptional but remember Tom Brady lost a super bowl to the New York Giants Joe Montana never lost a super bowl making him the greatest ever.
@@normabatista1472 look I'll give you that Tom Brady is awesome he's a great quarterback he's in a class all by himself just like Joe Montana is Brady has seven and Montana has four but his performances were more dramatic I was there when Montana and the niners beat the cowboys and that dramatic game which Dwight Clark caught the game-winning touchdown that was awesome look I'm not trying to argue with you I love both quarterbacks butts Montana is the best my opinion of course
@@joseph-ui2xcur opinion doesn't matter....sports keep stats and records for a reason, its not subjective...saying Joe went 4-0 is literally saying he wasn't as consistent as Tom😂😂😂
Tom GOAT Brady TWICE the Conference Title Games / Wins as Montana 7 Rings out of 10 SBS Retired with Just about every NFL QB Record in the Regular Season , Playoffs , and SBs Most Starts , Wins , Comebacks Ever Greatest SB Comeback Win down 25 in mid 3rd Quarter Created 2 Dynasties for one team in 19 years Won a SB MVP in First Season with New team Only SB MVP in AFC or NFC Only QB ever to be responsible for 96 percent of his Head Coach's Career Playoff Success in 19 years Won a SB MVP for two Floundering Fool Head Coaches Defeated all 32 Teams at least once Played for a Record 23 Seasons Only QB ever to be 16 = 18 and 0 in a Season First QB to win SB MVP in Home Stadium Defeated Record HOFer QBs to get to SBs Set Completion Records in his last 2 Seasons Improved his Play as he got older Case Closed
@timothygalli9601 Total Nonsense . Terry Bradshaw was 4 - 0 in SBs . Brady is 7 - 3 In SBs Vs Some of the Greatest SB Opponents ever . Brady has Unheard Of / Unparalleled NFL QB Records Singular to only him . He is One of One . Case Closed
Finally! I thought I was the only person who knew this. Joe Montana never even was accused of cheating, let alone got caught cheating. Montana's perfect 4-0. 4 in 9 years. The list goes on. Thank you! And for the record, I've never been a 49ers fan and hated Joe Montana while he was playing because he always screwed my team out of our shot at the Superbowl. But facts are facts. Joe Montana, greatest QB to ever play the game.
If Leonard Marshall hit a QB during the Brady era the way he hit Montana, he'd be on death row. Not only did Montana come back but led a rinky-dink Chiefs team to the AFC Championship.
Just watch the 89’ 49ers game vs Eagles… Sacked 8 times against arguably the best defensive line of all time… losing 21-10 in the 4th Quarter… Winning 38-28 with 4 td passes in the 4th quarter… Montana was the best in his time and against the better defenses when they could hit the Qb all the time… Parcells/Ryan would try and knock out Montana every game… Now if you fart near a QB it’s a penalty… He would’ve thrived in this generation… Hard to compare because of the evolution of the game… Brady 1a Montana 1b or Montana 1a Brady 1b…
@chrisbostwick9880 idht..I was alive back then..I liked the 49ers..but I grew up in mass so I'm a pats fan..I get it was tougher back then..but it doesn't matter... Tom Brady is the goat- Joe Montana...that's a quote.
When asked how many TD’s Joe would throw in today’s NFL Joe said “ Me? What about Danny?” As in Dan Marino
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Dan Marino would have 10 TDs per game easy.
@@firminorules 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@firminorulesMontana smoke Dan Marino in the Superbowl back in the 80s
@user-cs6up8eq7s The 49ers smoked the Dolphins in the Super Bowl in the 80s.
Joe Montana is for me the G.O.A.T. Tougher era and most importantly he didn't CHEAT. Tom Brady DID.
The media doesn't talk about it, want to forget about it.
So I guess Johnny U who played in an even tougher era should be the GOAT
So are the leather helmet guys with no protection the goats? I mean they played in the hardest era? And yes Brady cheated but that was only a few select games in his career. Most of his games tho are clean
@@Bahala_Nah NOPE. the athletes were not comparable. the athletes in Montana's era and now were almost no difference, Especially a few who are still more Elite than anyone before or after they played. CONTEXT is what you people need to consider when discussing these GOAT conversations. RULES and caliber of Athletes are points of CONTEXT people forget about or like to ignore when it comes to MONTANA & MICHAEL JORDAN. the league was probably over 50% white when Unita's played. Most of those guys were not great athletes and couldn't crack the start line up on top ten NATIONAL high school teams now. Like Jim Brown who i respect but can never legitimately consider GREAT because the majority of the time he played he was the fastest guy on the field and he was only a 4.5 40 guy. he was also 80% of the time in the top 10 biggest guys on the field every time he played a game and he was only 6'2'' and 225lbs. he wouldn't have had those numbers in the Montana era and post Montaña eras. The best Athletes of Johnny U's time were Olympians, in the MLB and Boxing (both black and white) They were not playing football. Johnny U's ERA was not a tougher era. the toughest ERA was from 1982 until about 2003.
Joe Montana played football when QB’s didn’t have all the rules to protect them like today. Tom Brady has been overly protected by officials in the last 5 years or more of his career as well. Joe Montana is “ The GOAT” in my eyes.
Stop it 7 rings says otherwise
Don’t forget, receivers are also protected. Imagine if they were protected in Montanas era? There would be an increase in extended drives and stats.
Plus, Montana never had to deflate balls to win games
@@emteebee1872 wr's have been protected since the mel Blount rule was passed in 1978. Stop it
The only people who think Montana was better that Brady are Niner homers and Pats/Brady haters
Hard to argue with Brady’s resume but Joe did it in a much tougher era of defense where QBs were not protected like they are today and Montana took an absolute beating
Montana also had an all star team around him
Ahaha no he didnt
@@TheTruthIsBlurred Ahaha yes he did dork
Montana played when it was a man’s game. Greatest qb to ever play the game…ever.
Youre delusional
Football if anything is even more of a man’s game now
@@lucasrichards7247 Sit down son... before you hurt yourself
Montana played in the toughest era in football when the QBs use to get hit well after the play was over.
Fact
Nope. It was brutal in the 30's, 40's and 50's. Hell they didnt even have face masks for christ sake
@@mk8530 My bad, but very true. But players have evolved since the 30's 40's and 50's into the physical specimens that they are today as well as the 80's and 90's when the rules regarding quarterback hits were a lot different. No helmuts back in those times is just crazy. I wonder how many football related deaths or impairments occurred during the old days and I'm sure that played a major role in stiffening up the safety standards. Actually, I recall now that that's why they upgraded the protective equipment. Those guys were beasts.
@@mk8530 by that rationale, these guys playing today are ultra pussies.. lmao
Brady would be in an ambulance
You said Brady has 5 rings, but he actually has 7
He don’t know wtf he’s talking about
He said 6 but the point stands.
7>4
@@ajfanotreally2523he said he has 6, then later on he said he’s got 5
It’s clickbait, clout chasing. I don’t think the author watches football.
Belicheat and the Cheatriots cheated to get most of Brady's rings. And so did Tom Brady. So, most of those rings don't count. My Tiger Kung Fu...is better than yours...I don't think you're good enough...to avenge your master...
The Seattle goal line pass is the single stupidest decision made in sports history
The Seahawks threw away a dynasty
A decision NOT made by Russ but well-executed by Russ. Ricardo Lockette needs to eat his well-deserved bowl of sh!t for blowing that play, and the LoB needs to eat theirs for giving up the 12-point 4th quarter lead Russ built. Nobody talks about that because they just want to hate on Russ.
@@jeanpaul7223: No, Pete Carroll and Daryl Bevell threw away a dynasty.
The worst play call in Super Bowl History.
No doubt about it
You lost me when you said Adam vinataro 😂
Lol, yep. What kinda AI crap is this? I do think Montana is the best QB I’ve ever seen (though Mahomes is right there as well), but I don’t need a computer to tell me that🤣
If you'd stayed, you'd have heard him call Bengals old QB Boomer... Ess-ee-ah-son
@@krell2130 lol.
What about es-ee-yah-son
He said it twice!
Don't forget that Montana also played in a much rougher hard-hitting era when QB's were often sent to the ER.
Is that why Drew Bledsoe almost died during the Brady era?
Someone actually did die in the 80s .
the receivers were getting blasted too and you can't hit them like that too anymore and you can't jammed them at the line. by around 2003 they started to change all those rules. you look how Brady's numbers increased after that.
I absolutely love Montana, but this video has so much wrong with it.
Almost everything he says about Montana you can just as easily say about Brady LOL
Same
Please them please
@@JoelCrump-uc9by He says Brady has 6 Super Bowl rings at 2:25 , he then says Brady has 5 rings at 6:20, and how many times does he mispronounce Vinatieri?
@@dbrownporecords He says Brady has 6 Super Bowl rings at 2:25 , he then says Brady has 5 rings at 6:20, and how many times does he mispronounce Vinatieri?
One thing not mentioned here is that Tom was never hit the way Joe was. look at the caliber of defenders trying to take his head off Lawrence Taylor, the ‘85 Besrs, Steve Atwater. Jack Lambert, Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, and.. injuries that would have killed normal mortals, Randy White, etc.
He took some similiar hits and he didn't look too good. Remember his first Superbowl playoff run? The Raiders Charles Woodson hit were he got blasted and fumbled and the REFS cheated and said he didn't fumble. Then in the AFC championship game the Steelers laid so much wood on his a.... he got knocked out of the game and Drew Bledsoe who he replaced that year had to come off the bench and threw the only TD in that game. They were a ground and pound team until around 2003 when they started to make all the rule changes on blasting the QBS and wideouts. and jamming the e=receivers at the line of scrimmage. if Tom played under the Montana ERA rules we wouldn't be having this stupid debate right now.
Yes Joe Montana is absolutely the G.O.A.T.
Joe is 4 - 0 - 0 in Super bowls: 4 wins, zero losses & zero interceptions thrown.
@@makaha5750Perfection. Joe would never get beat by Eli Manning's mediocre Giants with an undefeated superteam.
@@hitek9too255lol yup that Eli put a end that that perfect season then eli came back again beat him
Brady is below Montana for these simple reasons - 1) he didn't even deserve to BE in the super bowl against the Rams and got there due to the refs clearly rigging it against the raiders and THEN they rigged the super bowl even (btw EVERYBODY knows the tuck rule game was a rig job) 2) It's a documented fact that the patriots' knew their opponents' signals in their first three super bowl wins 3) the super bowl vs the chiefs was rigged by the refs and the bucs shouldn't have even made the playoffs that year and only did due to a rigged ball placement in a game that decided the division for them; God knows how many other rigged games the pats have been handed; 4) based on rigging and cheating alone, tom brady does not deserve at least four of his super bowls and it STILL took him 20 years to win the 3 that he MIGHT have deserved credit for winning 5) the seahawks actually goofed away one super bowl and he only won due to their gaffe 6) If the QB protection rules were the same, montana would've played longer and probably would've completed the giants game to complete the 3-peat in 1990 for a fifth super bowl in a MERE decade, god knows how many other super bowls he would've won. Joe Montana is the GOAT!
bro sounds like he’s on some copium
@@xenonmcnastyy6603 he is huffin it hard.
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MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quarterbacks are so protected by rules today compared to back then. If Montana never got injured, he would have at least another 3 or 4 super bowls with the niners
Wrong
He was 4-3 in Conference Championship Games . . . AND HE ALWAYS HAD TOP-NOTCH RECEIVERS!!!
scottx4813, You forgot to consider that the rules also protected the OPPOSING QBs like Peyton Manning whom Brady had to face almost every season in the playoffs. The same goes for the rules in Montana's era also affecting BigBad Jeff Hostettler that Joe Montana had to beat in his playoff runs.
Montana was 4-3 in Conference Championship Games! Brady won as many Super Bowls as Montana appeared in the Conference Championship Game . . . he HAD his chances; he just fell short!!!!
If, if, IF... my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle.
The main reason is Joe Montana was never involved in a cheating scandal. Tom Brady was involved in two.
Also Joe kinda did cheat or was
Proxy to it when Jerry Rice admitted to using stickum.
@@williamsweeney3215 It's not a cheat if everyone is doing it, and everybody was doing it, and thats on Jerry anyway, but I really don't remember Jerry with stickem all over him ever, he was a pretty clean cut dude, and you can mostly tell who was gluing, and who wasn't gluing. It was literally all over them there was no hiding the stuff.
@@mikehunt40he admitted to using it and every team has cheated lots of spy gates out there the nfl made a example out of the Patriots but all teams did it . They didn’t invent the tactics it has been used for ever . Can we at least agree the dude in the video has no idea what he talking about . Brady has 7 rings and didn’t have the talent around him that montana had. Brady had 2 or 3 hall of fame carears 😂 but i mean of your a 49ers fan I understand wanting to goat him but i mean sorry theres only one goat and its tom brady. Funny how bias he was like when tom 1 it was the other team gifting him the wins lol joe did it he earned it 😂
@@mikehunt40”it’s not a cheat if everyone is doing it”
Okay, then why are you trying to say Brady cheated? Spygate was being done all over the league by every team, and everyone knows how stupid deflategate was. Brady’s cheating allegations are so stupid it’s actually funny that you’re trying to use them in an argument
@@Kira-zi1qp nobody was hiding in ductwork, but the patriots. Figures a pats fan would try defend scumbags.
No offense, but this guy lost me when he said Brady has won six Super Bowls and when he mispronounced Adam Vinatieri‘s last name. I can’t watch anymore after that.
I think it might be AI generated. The narration was definitely an AI voice, and I think maybe the content too. Later in the video, it said that Brady only had one more ring than Montana. So Brady went from 6 rings to 5. It also butchered the pronunciation of Boomer Esiason's name.
@@Jayhawker2000 Wow, I didn’t even think of that. That would make sense, and now I might have to go ahead and watch the rest just to see how badly they butchered “Esiason”.😄
Probably AI.
@@Jayhawker2000 rock chawk
@@Jayhawker2000 That was hilarious. Remember Bill Romanowski on the sidelines with his tackle box of ugh........ We'll just say vitamins! The Super Bowl 55 to 10 blowout of the Broncos was a hard MVP to pick. Yes Jerry Rice had 5 TD catches thrown to him by Joe Cool. Is it tougher to throw them or catch them? Either way Joe and Dwight in "The Catch" are immortalized forever! Rest Easy DC.
Imagine Montana with the QB protection rules in place now. I've always said it's Montana but I understand the argument for Brady. But it is Montana.
Imagine Montana in the salary cap era. If you split Brady’s career in half each TB either competes with or surpasses JM, and that’s with an ever changing team, across multiple decades. You can’t just say “Well if they played back then,” because they DIDN’T play back then, and we have no idea what’d happen if you transplanted a quarterback into a different era. All we can know is how they performed in the era that they played, as opposed to their peers. Tom Brady was not the only QB benefitting from the new rules, and yet nobody has even come close to doing what he’s done in the time frame that he played.
No, it's John Elway. Not really even close.
No. Montana had more hall of famers around him on offense and defense and he did absolutely nothing when he played for KC yet Brady reasurected Tampa Bay
I noticed no one answered the question. Brady has played with hall of famers as well. The defense won those first few super bowls. A non hall of fame receiver won mvp for one of them. 2 of Brady's super bowls were due to inept coaching. Atlanta and Seattle.
Not just today’s QB protection, receivers as well… which could extend drives.
You didn't mention the most important detail.. rules changes
most important details is superbowl wins
@@9999deoxys Brady was the one who instituted those changes. Who do you think most benefited?
@@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212Brady Won championships through 3 different rule changes it didn't matter....and if they helped QB's so much why was he the only one winning? 😂
You are so wrong the colts are the ones that got most of the rules changed. @@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212
Exactly
Montana not one interception in the Superbowl not one
True. Just imagine how Joe Montana's Legacy would have been altered add Lewis Billups intercepted that pass in the end zone.
Joe Montana had no salary cap and always had a squad while Brady had to carry a 31st ranked defense to a Super Bowl at one point 😂
Helmet to helmet hits on QBs weren't legal during Brady's playing days
Brady also had a coach who didn't mind cheating
@@chrisspearline767 how he cheat ?
@@bigglilwayne7050 49ers won a Super Bowl without joe montana 😂😂😂
@@XRPDaddy888 Brady
This whole segment is laughable Tom Brady is the GOAT and its not even close lol stop hatin
So when Montana comes back from a single score it’s his greatness. When Brady makes the greatest comeback of all time it was gifted to him. Got it.
Not at all.
Did u forget his pick 6 in that game, ?
28-3 Atlanta
@@mk8530 thanks to Brady, ( pick6)
The tuck rule playoff game is the reason why Tom went to his first SB.
Yep, the league/refs cheated for the Pats. It was definitely a fumble.
@@keysersoze5920Was a rule back then that was called correctly. Was called before that, and after that. Cry.
@@tamezzodiac2862 Excuses, excuses, excuses for a cheating team. It was a fumble, just ask Ray Lewis.
@@keysersoze5920 The excuse is claiming it was cheating, even though it literally was a rule. I'm not even a patriots fan lmao, it's just that was the rule.
@@tamezzodiac2862 It was clearly a fumble, period, hence the rule did not apply nor is it in the NFL rule book anymore. And the Pats are notorious cheaters.
Die hard cowboy fan here. Joe Montana is the best ever. His time at KC proved it.
and brady joining a 7-9 bucs team for a super bowl doesnt? consistency is not a thing in your argument
@@LordBurgerthat bucs team was loaded at every position other than QB
@@Glc0077…..yea it was an he still added gronk an AB.
no different then manning going to a loaded broncos team. Both didn’t have to do much to win.
Remember that Monday night classic Joe and John had at mile high Stadium. Joe is the GOAT
@@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212 Yes, I remember it. Wow what a long time ago. A great low scoring game. I agree.
Could you imagine how much more insane Montana's numbers would be if he played with the way the quarterback is protected now?
I know NFL guys are bigger today than in the 80s, a linebacker from 1984 might be the size of a safety today, but I still think Joe Montana would be some kind of stand out star player in today's game. At 6'2 he's still modern QB height, even if most dudes are 6'4 or 6'5. The players might have been a bit smaller, but they were far more brutal back then.
You lost me when you said Tom Brady had 6 Super Bowl wins lol. 2:25
Thank you. Thats just an embarrassing mistake when making a controversial video like this. Like dude, cmon
I like how he tries to make it out that Brady did it only because he had all this help and Joe did it all by himself. Why there was a full team on the other side of the ball every time Joe played and he did it all by himself. He hiked the ball, he dropped back, he threw the pass, he went and ran really fast and then caught it too and then he even ran and scaored TD's and he kicked the extra points and he even did the special teams. Dude was amazing. He's like the equivalent of John The Baptist of Football lol @@Brownskidmarksonmyunderwear
Excellent assessment! Joe was more athletic, played during a time when quarterbacks were destroyed every other play, and made extremely difficult passes look easy. Watch a highlight reel of Brady and Joe back to back and you'll see what I mean. Joe was capable of putting incredibly difficult passes right on the money. And carried a defeated 49er team on his back to victory time and time again. To me Joe is still the GOAT.
look at Bradys arm strength. Joe himself admitted if he had been drafted by the Raiders who relied on the deep pass,he'd been a career backup. Joe went to the right team at the right time
@@kingfish4242 49ers typically had one of the lighter offensive lines in the NFL. Montana's protection wasn't great. The West Coast Offense was designed for more movement and speed than power and protection. There simply wasn't a lot of time to sit back and throw deep passes in the pocket for Montana as it was on the verge of collapsing against the better NFL defenses. Another underrated aspect of Montana was his mobility to extend the play. Brady always had a plethora of pro-bowlers on his offensive line.
Great Video man
It was a pretty bad video. He/it mispronounced names and couldn't decide whether Brady won 5 or 6 Super Bowls (he actually won 7). The voice narration was definitely AI generated. I'm not sure whether the content was AI generated or if a human created the script. If it's the former, then it would be a pretty impressive video for an artificial intelligence. It would mean AI has now advanced to the point where it can convincingly impersonate a human idiot.
He has more rings than any football team in the history of the n f l.
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Yup
Yea, all the while never really being tackled because the NFL is soft, baby, sissy ball these days. Tom Brady not tough enough to play when Montana played. Montana actually got sacked for real. Defensive players today 'pull out" of tackles so they don't get a flag. Sissy ball garbage modern day NFL.
@firminorules yup..and tom brady is the best for 20 years
@@firminorules 😢awww crying about being soft? How ironic.
Man, it's painful to hear someone mispronounce someone's name like that. Not how you say Boomers name.
2 minutes to go. Down by 5. On your own 20.In their prime, you have Montana and Brady on your sideline. I'm going Montana every time. Mr.Clutch. The Giants had Brady's number.
You forget the Giants had Montanas # also
If Im down 28-3 its brady
Brady is much better,,,,Montana is overrated. Even lowly Steve Young won a super bowl with the 9ers
@9999deoxys "lowly" Steve Young... yeah you have no clue what your talking about. And Montana overrated? I gaurantee your a kid or teenager and all you've seen are clips. You've never watched those game's as they happened. Because if you did you'd know Montana is FAR from overrated and Steve Young isn't "lowly" either 😂. And your other comment... a "measly" 4 Superbowls lol. He won those 4 in only 9 years buddy. That's less than a decade. We get it, your a Brady fanboy. But be realistic and give the other greats their just due. You just sound like either an uneducated fan that's never watched Montanas or Youngs games... or you just ride Brady a little too much. The only thing Brady has on Montana is longevity.
@@9999deoxys If I am not mistaken, when Steve Young retired he had the Highest Career Passer Rating and is still in the top 20 all time, also holds the record for most touchdowns in the Super Bowl with 6. Pretty sure Montana was screwed out of at least 2 rings while at KC when Marty decided Marcus Allen was going to get 60 carries a game in the AFC championship...twice.
Boy the Tom Brady hate is real. Pathetic
This may have been the most brain dead video I’ve ever watched. Thought it was a prank the whole time
Brady has 10 appearances and 7 rings. Not even debatable.
Montana 4 super bowl victories and Zero interceptions
Of course it is. you do not under what context is that it why you don't think it is debatable. You are just like all the Lebron fans over Jordan. Context my friend. it's a quarterback and wide receiver friendly ERA. Those rules didn't exist back then and free agency just opened up the last few years he played and he was all broken up. If Brady played in Joe's era he would have been lucky to have won one superbowl. he played under the Joe ERA rules in the in the 1st two superbowls he was in and after that they stop letting you destroy Quarterbacks and receivers with the vicious hits they use to put on people. and you couldn't jam the receivers at the line like before. Look at how his numbers started to explode after 2003. He almost didn't even play in his first superbowl. The Steelers put so many evil hits on his a..... the Guy he replaced Drew Bledsoe had to come off the bench and save the day and Threw the only TD that day for them and finish that game. They cheated most of those superbowl appearances and barely eeked out wins (although the Tampa one was super legit ) and the 1st superbowl appearance year they cheated the game before the Steelers game where he didn't finish because of vicious hits got destroyed By Charles WOODSON from the raiders when he got blasted and fumbled and they said it was not a fumble. If Joe played under those rules there would be no Brady talk now and RICE'S NUMBERS would have been ridiculous and Steve Young wouldn't had a career. Montana's problem was taking those vicious hits that are no longer allowed. Guys like Brock Purdy and Kyler Murray would not be able to play. Drew Brees Career was Over. i thought he was done because they were slinging him around and destroying him. His shoulder was shot. He went to New Orleans and that is around the time when they made all the new QB and WR RULES. tHAT IS WHY teams back then didn't like to draft QBS Drew Brees size only 6' and if they did it would be late late 1st at the highest. Brad is a statute and would not have survived more than 10 years in the league under the old rules. The Patriots were a ground and pound team his first 3 years starting until they changed the rules. So Maybe your right it is not debatable that Joe is the GOAT. This video just didn't do a good job with making clear and easy points
Well, I still say that if the hitting the quarterback rules were the same when players like Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman and Steve Young played as those rules are now, who knows how many more rings those guys would have. I heard Steve Young say once on Monday Night Football: "All I'm saying is, I just wish the quarterback rules were the same when I played like they are today". Then, on an HBO Sports program with Dan Marino and Boomer Esiason, I heard Boomer say: "If the rules for hitting quarterbacks were the same when we played like they are now, me and Dan could have played another 11, 12 years". And then I saw an interview with the great Lawrence Taylor, and he said: "I wouldn't be able to hit players today the way I could back when I played. That's one of the reasons that quarterbacks can play so long now days". And all of these players played in what they called "The School of Hard Knocks", so they all know what they're talking about. So, unless you're a person who actually played in this league, you can't dispute what any of them have said.
Back in the 70s and 80s it was easy for teams to hold and keep a competitive advantage for their team for decades. With no salary cap and less free agency, the 49ers pretty much enjoyed being stacked as a team with a stable nucleus that kept adding pieces for entire decades. Tom Brady had to constantly adjust to new receivers, etc. on his teams. Tom Brady didn't have the luxury of having a Dwight Clark, Jerry Rice, John Taylor, etc.
@@programmingwithmesh1285 But you still have to remember that he still had help and advantage with those quarterback rule changes just like Laurence Taylor and all the others have said. None of those players had that luxury.
@@LeviAWilson If you are comparing their win-loss records then it makes no difference because the lax rules in the 80s meant the Montana's 49ers all-star all-pro defense could slaughter the opposing QB's thus making it easier for Montana to win those games. Montana had one of the deadliest safeties on HIS team (Ronnie Lott). Montana benefitted from having Ronnie Lott being allowed to massacre the opposing teams QBs and Receivers and Running Backs. This helped Montana gain an advantage from a win-loss standpoint. Meanwhile, Brady's teammates were not allowed to lay a finger on Peyton Manning, so Peyton Manning lit up the Patriots after the rule change. The rule change actually made it tougher for Brady to beat Manning. Notice how before the rule change on DBs being allowed to touch WRs Brady owned Manning, but then the NFL changed the rules so the Patriot DBs got flagged for even breathing on Marvin Harrison, so Marvin Harrison scored like crazy on the Patriots after that rule change. Do you not even see the TWO sides of things??? You are only focusing on ONE side and ignoring the other side that has the opposite effect.
@@programmingwithmesh1285 Hay, take it up with Lawrence Taylor, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Boomer Esiason and several other major football players who have all said that. They know what they're talking about because they played the game and they all said it, not me, I'm just agreeing with them.
Montana had Jerry Rice . 10 SB's for TB 7 wins. Montana only 4 SB's end of discussion.
I love Joe Montana and what he did with the 49ers . But he wasn't half of what Tom Brady was in the NFL . Brady was alot more than a QB . He was a QB / Head Coach / GM / Offensive Coordinator / Player Recruiter / Player Developer / Player Evaluator / Game Planner for a SB Champion Team in the AFC and NFC . Unheard Of / Unparalleled
Brady has Records that Joe never even came claose to . Here are the Reasons Brady is the NFL QB GOAT by miles
Only QB to Win SB MVP with two of the worst All Time Winning Percentage Teams in Sports history . Pats and Buccs .
Most Starts , Wins , Comebacks ever
Won SBMVP in the AFC and NFC
First ever to Win SBMVP in Home Stadium
7 Rings in 10 SBs
Created Two Dynasties for one team in 19 years
96 Percent of Bill Belichik's All Time NFL Post Season Career Head Coaching success was because of Brady .
Brady retired with just about every All Time Regular Season , Playoff , and SB Record
Brady beat all 30 Teams at least once .
Brady has TWICE as Many Conference Title Games / Wins as Montana
Case Closed
Numbers don’t lie
Love that you touched on tainted games and reliability on the oppositions mistakes
Very accurate I saw every game joe Montana played early ones live
Also saw Tom Brady’s via tv you make a very accurate point
Well done sir!
Bradshaw is the definitive ‘system qb’…. that’s why he never gets any respect
It's not even close Brady's better and pretty much every head-to-head matchup by far this is like a fancy way of saying I don't like Brady so I'm just going to convince people lol
Zero chance Brady would have survived Montana's era.
How does anybody know that?
@Stephen-to7jx Because the rules of today are made for sissies and the NFL is soft garbage. So, Tom, would not have been tough enough to survive back then. He is used to DE "pulling up" so as not to hurt him and get a flag. The NFL is laughable sissy ball now with soft babies including Tom Brady. Sissy.
Facts they would have to ban him from playing for averaging 1000 passing yards per game
Brady played in the era with the fastest most dangerous defensive teams what are you talking about! These dudes now days are 276 pounds and fast as could be the old players wasn’t on the level of these guys now it’s so obvious
Blah blah blah
Joe Montana will forever be the G.O.A.T, there is absolutely no way brady could have played in Joe's era.
Joe didn’t play with under inflated balls/ didn’t have the coaching staff record the other teams plays/ and didn’t have the refs shilling for him.
joe had the greatest offensive biased coach of all time. and deflategate was a one time thing that was actually proven incorrect in court (air temperature expansion physics lined up perfectly with the PSI). the only other thing was spygate, which was also a one time thing
Also spygate was where they filmed not they couldn’t. Brady is the goat cuz he’s been to 10 bowls 7 wins all the qb records.
@@williamsweeney3215They just had 40 admit to that shit
@@williamsweeney3215spygate wasn’t even banned until 2006 people tend to forget that part of it
Joe also benefited not losing players to free agency
Tom Brady. I'm not a Patriots fan either. But when you win 7 Superbowls and all of the other things he has done record wise and did it with 2 different teams. Montana played on 2 teams and couldn't win it on both teams. Montana is good no doubt.
Montana was the man..
Let's see Brady has more playoff wins, Brady has more rings, Brady has super bowl records Brady is goat
@@chriswalls5831 Brady does for sure but Montana has NO Cheating allegations..Montana played in an Era where the rules didn't Cater to the offense..I hate SF but to me Montana will ALWAYS be the true 🐐🐐
@@beastunleashed8839 Dude, I used to pick up local 49ers media. During all that DeflateGate nonsense, the 49er players were on record on local media bragging/laughing at how the 49ers got away with lots of cheating, e.g. Jerry Rice wore stick em, their linemen wore PAM on their jerseys to make them slick, their groundskeeper intentionally made certain spots of Candlestick Park slippery so that only the 49ers knew where the slippery parts were, etc. etc.
Montana was the stat man...not the team player
@@beastunleashed8839 If you refer to deflategate you have to read Mike Florio article on the cover up the NFL performed on the data on ball pressure they collected on during the following year of the scandal.
This might be the dumbest video i have ever seen.
How long did it take Bradshaw to get 4 rings? Granted he arguably along for the ride. Definitely the greatest dominating defense that lasted six seasons.
The Niners had an amazing defense during Montana's time. Everyone seems to forget that, but they had superstars like Lott and Haley
@@KorithStoneheart as good as that defense was, Montana had his moments. He was really good at football. As good as those defenses were he lead those last minute drives to beat Cincinnati twice. He was driving that bus. And he doesn't seem to be a super likable person. But he was excellent at football. Oh yeah. His offensive line was a bunch of aliens. They were huge and intimidating. That's what I remember most in the game vs Dallas with
The catch.
That his offensive line made me the Dallas defensive line look like children. They were so huge. Seriously. I saw it broadcast original. They were amazing. Secure pocket for sure.
Bradshaw did it in 6 years. he was 4-0 in the SB in 6 years and was followed by Joe who achieved the same thing. But like I said before in terms of championships, volume supersedes efficiency and anyone who thinks different is a failure. Brady is the GOAT. 4-0 is not better than 7-10 lol If you think it is then you need to go back to grade school.
@@beatnikbytes I don't believe longevity is more important than brilliance and mastery. I consider Isaiah Thomas's bad boys pistons the finest championship team of my viewing experience. They were only the best for three years. Brady was outstanding for most of his Superbowl games. Not all. Like Terry Bradshaw had a couple of good games but the defense was the feature. Curt Warner taking a second team to the Superbowl is more impressive to me than Troy aikmen riding Emmett Smith to three. Emmet Smith's three Superbowls do impress me as much as Russ Grimm's three Superbowls.
We give quarterbacks a lot of credit. Russ Grimm's hogs took three different quarterbacks to Superbowl wins. That I find second behind Brady taking whole different rosters in New England and then a whole different team that he built with just networking and magnetism to Superbowl wins. It's not the seven total. It's how he got to 7 that I find amazing. And yes even the losses. I think Bruce Smith and Thurman Thomas getting to 4 Superbowls is more impressive than Brett favre taking credit for Desmond Howard winning one. I do think Desmond Howard with Reggie White is more impressive than Brett favre for that Superbowl. Like the Tampa Bay defense was more impressive than Brady in that Superbowl but Brady did recruit most of those guys which to me is more impressive than his play on the field. Brady is the goat of all goats for building that team.
this is a really stupid way to look at things lol yeah, I mean he was really good in one game but ho hum in another game and it was only because of the defense that they won it. Well, newsflash. It is a TEAM SPORT the fact that 1 player played in all of those games with all of those different rosters simply means that this player was a part of that team and was on the roster for 10 championship level teams and was on the roster for 7 championship winning teams. It realyl wouldn't matter if he was a punter, or punt returner or whatever lol But as it stands he is in the most high profile of any football position which is the QB slot. The QB is more often than not a significant contributor or detractor to any team. It doesn't matter if he threw 7 interceptions or if he threw none. It doesn't matter if he had 400 passing yards or 80. It doesnt matter if he went 16-17 in passes or 1-12. none of that matters. When it comes to championships for team sports it takes the whole team and the fact that he was a significant contributor to his team that many times and even came back from a 27-3 deficit to mount the largest comeback in SB history is amazing.
When it comes to champions, volume supersedes efficiency and anyone who thinks different doesn't have the mindset of a champion. The winners focus on winning and the losers focus on the winners. That's the truth and that's what separates the greats from the others. The wheat from the chaff. the legends from the food for the fire. lol @@mandelharvey3429
Unlike Brady, Montana was not a cheater.
Joe Montana called Tom Brady the G.O.A.T 😂 stop it
It’s not real football. The playoffs games are fixed for entertainment and viewing. Brady and Montana are not even top 5 all time qbs. You’d have to at least put Elway, Manning, Marino, and Rodgers ahead of them. Surely another one too
@@connorclarke1218 what 😂 so put 5 QBs with less wins and less Superbowls and less stats ahead of TB12 and Joe you sound crazy.
@@realmusicrealartist4899 haha TB 12😁😁It’s fake brother, WWE. Watch it on Sunday this season, you’ll see all the doinked field goals, the late game fumbles, the overtime games that almost never existed years ago like it does now. The interceptions where a receiver isn’t within 5 yards of the ball and there is a quarterback getting paid 25 million dollars a year to throw it to them accurately. Come on now, It’s a soap opera with storylines.
@@connorclarke1218 I am 43yrs old been watching football for a long time, I think people are just mad that TB12 was the Freddy Kruger of the league and he beat up in yall favorite teams for 20 plus years 😂
@@realmusicrealartist4899 well maybe 20 years ago it wasn’t as fake but it was still super rigged. The tuck rule in 01’ was absolutely rigged for TB12, as was the game winning drives he got a chance to win the Super Bowl in 01’, 03’, and 04’. Totally fake champion. The Seattle Super Bowl with the Malcolm Butler interception had to be faker than a Bret Hart Hulk Hogan match. Even the ones Brady lost were super fake. The fake fumble in the 4th quarter against Philadelphia. The David Tyree catch when the play should’ve been marked dead. So much fake stuff it baffles me that grown adults don’t see it or I guess can’t see it.
Todays game is about speed and finesse. Back in Joe Montanas day it was still about viscious hitting intimidation and violence. Many of todays NFL players could never play or make it on those brutal teams of the past.
Brady would have never survived let alone win super bowls playing for a team in the AFC Central. Only one quarterback made it through those war years. Roethlisberger. Every other quarterback either got hurt or was traded. Brady played in the WEAKEST division in football for twenty years.
This is an absurdly stupid video, the fact that you spent money to advertise it shows that even you don’t believe in its true message and you are trying to buy views to make your sad attempt seem anything but futile.
Brady wouldn't survive the hard hits of Montana's Era of football. The guys late hit quarterbacks every play almost compared to today's standards of not being able to sneeze on a quarterback without a penalty. Completely different times between Brady and Montana in the face of "protecting quarterbacks". If roles were reversed, Montana would have field day with today's NFL, just like the LeBron and Jordan debate
Brady played in the early 2000s when the still hit people. Good try
The perfect comparison.
LeBron vs. Jordan.
In the early 2000s you could still fuck up the QB. He won 3 Superbowls when you could still pump the receivers past 5 yards.
Are you dumb? Brady played with arguably the hardest hitters ever in his era, and top rated defenses
Tell me you don’t know about 2000s football some more 😂
Plus, the 80's you could hit the QB and the passing rules in the 2000's and 2010's more favor the QB than the 80' and 90's.
The league enabled Brady and the Patriots to become the face of the league for patriotic reason’s following 9/11, starting with their first Super Bowl win in 2001, over the highly talented St. Louis Rams that had 6 potential future Hall Of Famers on the roster. A Super Bowl, where it’s alleged they video taped the walk throughs of the Rams last practices before the game …..After that, the league had the refs protect Brady at all costs. Literally changed the rules based off of his injuries. Of course you will get all of the records, if other players in the league are scared they’ll get penalized for hitting you too rough…..Montana played in a much tougher league, and still didn’t lose a Super Bowl.
Alleged?
🤦♂️
cant lose super bowls if you dont make them!
He lost 42 to 3 to the giants in the playoffs
Defenses during Montana's time were allowed to truly hit the QB and they did hit the QBs. Just look at Theismann's injury from the Taylor hit which caused Theismann's retirement. It was a more bruising NFL during that time and Montana still got 4 SBs in less than 10 years. He is rhe GOAT.
01. Most Super Bowl Appearances: Brady
02. Most Super Bowl Wins: Brady
03. Most Conference Championship Appearances: Brady
04. Most Conference Championships: Brady
05. Most Division Titles: Brady
06. Most Passing Touchdowns: Brady
07. Most Passing Yards: Brady
08. Most Pass Attempts: Brady
09. Most Pass Completions: Brady
10. Longevity: Brady
The stats speak for themselves!
So does the cheating.
@@keysersoze5920 "Deflate Gate" has already been debunked. Isn't it odd that the Patriots scored MORE in the second half of the game against the Colts???
@@dacryptkeeper6836 LOL! NO way a qb does not know to what pressure “his balls” are inflated to. Also, why did Brady panic?
@@keysersoze5920 I know it's hard for you to accept that Montana is now 2nd to Brady; hell, I was a BIG Montana fan too! But Montana NEVER had the revolving door of teammates that Brady did, and he NEVER had to play within the "salary caps" that teams do today. Anybody who diminishes the greatness of one, diminishes the greatness of the other!
@@dacryptkeeper6836 LOL! Unitas.
If you see montanas adjusted playoff stats cuz of the era it is wild how clutch he was blowing everyone away including brady just a james bond type of main character
😂😂😂😂they've all conceded to Brady...there's no deep dive needed, Joe said it, Peyton said it, Rodgers said it, this debate has been dead for like 5 years now
They were all being nice. How can anyone be better than the older players when you are not allowed to sack the quarterback anymore or tackle a wide receiver. Baby ball nowadays. Tom Brady is the king of sissy ball.
Nope, you couldn't have seen Joe Cool.
@@firminorulestoday is far more skilled players than ever and it’s not even close
@@Kenny-zv4pp ur on fentanyl laced crack
Just like the LeBron vs. Jordan debate?
Joe was Clutch . He is the greatest football player ever.
Montana only reached superbowl 4xs cuz Al the other years he got beat in playoffs. So how that make him better? 🤔
Montana was a good quarterback, with the best co stars - Jerry rice , John Taylor, Roger Craig.
STOP IT
Brady played with more talent (Moss, Gronk, Revis, Welker, Evans, McGinest, Law, Seymour, Dillon, Harrison, Chandler Jones, Bruschi, Wilfork, Gilmore, David, Vinatieri, Slater) and more top 10 defenses than anybody (19) lmaooooo like why do we ignore this
@@TheRealRickyShow Tom never won a Super Bowl with an All pro wideout at the patriots. Lol Montana literally had the greatest wr of all time.
@@TheRealRickyShowthat talent wasn’t consistent Gronk injured a shitton Moss was there for what 2 years and welker dropped a catch in the SB as for evans he was at the end everyone agrees Tom was making shit happen with nobody’s for what a 10-12 year stretch even did 28-3 without Gronk
@@TheRealRickyShowthe defense don’t mean anything unless you got a top 10 offense too Tom funded the defense for 20 years no other QBs did so and he carried the defense even they admitted it be it clutch play or great games in the playoffs not to mention Joe Played with the Number 1 Defense and offense in a time with no salary cap or with the best Head Coach at the time and Ronnie Lott top 2 Safety and Steve young played and won a SB
@@TheRealRickyShowbrady played with moss for one season. gronk is the only receiver you can statistically make an argument for being an elite receiver no matter who he played for, and gronk was only an above avg receiver. hes the GOAT TE because hes also an elite blocker
Brady’s has 7 rings not 6 you casual 😂
I don't know why but i feel that Brady is a cheater
@@insmileyfacemur4242because he beat your team and you're butt hurt it's that simple I'm a lions fan so I know how it feels to lose but it doesn't mean Brady is a cheater lol
He knows how many rings Brady has he just hates to admit he has almost twice as many as Montana.
Brady proved he could win without a genius coach.
Brady #1
Elway #2
Tiie #3 Montana, Bradshaw
Saw the heading and was like nope… and I’m a 49rs fan
The League (made) a Tom Brady: Montana made (himself). And yet Montana called Marino a better Quarterback; even after winning a Super Bowl against him.
If brady had to play against the defenses in montanas era there isnt a chance in hell he plays for as long he did.
In their prime to play a Super Bowl, I’d go with Montana.
Tom has 7 SB rings, Joe has 4. Tom won a SB with a 2nd team late in his career, Joe did not. Tom played during the salary cap era. Joe played when teams could stack their rosters. Case closed, Tom is the GOAT.
You forgot to add...the only reason Tom lasted so long to win 7 rings is due to the tremendous rule changes. In the previous eras, Brady would have lasted under 10 years. FACTS.
There was Roughing the Passer penalties when Montana played. FACTS.
@@SamWestingOne of the NFL's rules is often called “The Brady Rule,” as it was added after a season-ending ACL injury to New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in 2008. This rule states that a defensive player who hits a quarterback below the knees when one or two feet are on the ground will be penalized for a personal foul and a 15-yard penalty.
@@dmvbay2535Using your reasoning, Terry Bradshaw is the GOAT. 4x SB champion playing under 1970s rules that were even less protective of QBs than in the ‘80s. Montana is still not the GOAT, no matter what!
@@SamWesting That's your opinion. Not mine, buddy. There is no comparison between the two except for number of Superbowl victories. That's it. Joe had more NFL MVP titles, SuperBowl MVPs, Pro Bowls, 1st and 2nd team All Pro votes than Terry had. Joe also was the NFL passing completion leader 5 times!! Terry = 0. Joe led the NFL in QBR twice..Terry = 0. Joe was also NFL player of the year and Terry never had that luxury. So, no Bradshaw is not the GOAT. Try again.
Different era's. Brady played in an era where the rules were made for the offense and you can't even touch the QB. Montana played when it was open season on QBs. The defense could destroy QBs. That's all the reasons you need. The real question is, could Brady have played the same era as Montana? We all know Montana could play and would thrive in Brady's era.
THIS^. Most likely yes because he's a big guy but no way does he have a 22 year career. He'd be plagued with constant knee injuries because of how you could go for the QBs knees. He would've been out of the league by his 10th season. Montana had two back surgeries during a 10 year span and still won 4 rings. So I don't wanna hear about any Montana was fragile argument. If you're mentally tough enough you'll come back from anything.
@@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212 don't forget the elbow surgeries and undiagnosed concussions.
Tom Brady couldn’t survive 80s QB hits. Joe can play in Brady’s league all day.
Womp womp womp
Hits reached their peak in about 2004/2005…Brady had 3 rings by then
Top 5 QB’s for me. You can put them in order of how much they ment to the team they played with and their individual skills that really helped their team. Those five QB’s might not have been as successful if they played on another team. So, the five QB’s I have in random order are: Brett Farve, Dan Merino, Tom Brady, Joe Montana and John Elway. They all set records in their time.
Peyton manning and rothlesburger even tho he wasn’t that good but he was good for his team
I am not sure about the top 5, as in numbers 4 & 5, but I would rank Montana as #1, Brady at #2 and Bradshaw at #3.
G.O.A.T. Greatest football player of all time, Jerry Rice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FLASH 80
Wtf is boomers last name 😂😂 ohhhhhhthank you that was fn great.
Brady would've been decapitated against the defenses Montana played against
Lawrence Taylor 😮💨
The best example is the 49ers vs eagles in 89. The eagles was punishing montana with 5 sacks in the 1st half & Montana was still able to put his team on his back & come back from behind & win . The giants proved in both SB'S if you put pressure on Brady early he won't as effective
@@TheReasonsShowwoulda beat him too keep your money in your pocket moron
I think Brady’s game translates to the original West Coast offense.
@@Bambino_60 absolutely does
Tell me you don’t watch football without telling me you don’t watch football great video 😂
Brady is LeBron. Joe is Jordan.
I immediately read the title, and I already knew this video was gonna be 🗑️😂
Right
2 takeaways: missed reason # 1. Rule changes. In Montana’s day, anything goes on defence. Hits he absorbed would be illegal know. The secondary could do anything. If Jack Lambert said QB’s wore skirts in the 1970’s I couldn’t imagine his take on QB rules today.
#2. Please stop comparing Brock Purdy to Joe. As a die hard SF fan, that’s just stupid.
Yall act like Montana didn’t play for one of the most loaded teams in nfl history 😂😂😂 Brady is the goat he has 3 rings being a “ game manager” and 4 rings being that guy he’s completely the goat
Brady didn't have "loaded" teams? With cheating and defleated footballs? His 3 titles in the 2010s were all giveaways. Heck, he went to Tampa Bay where everyone ran to him, talk about "loaded" where back then ya got "hit" ya didn't play 2 hand touch until age 45.
@@acewilliams7917 ok hater
@@Ballinbmac Yeah, i'm jealous of a cheater.
@@acewilliams7917 yes you are
@@Ballinbmac Can't be jealous of a man who cheats. I love how you humans in society accept cheating. Astros cheat to win the series, yet people still accept it. You humans are stupid.
I 100% totally agree with you. The thing I didn’t realize, being a 49er fan is Joe Montana beat (3) MVP’s that should have been his, at least two of them for sure, in 1981 and 1984.
Brady and the newer generation quarterbacks have the luxury of rule changes that generated more offense.
I just think it's way too hard to say who the greatest of all time was. Too many different eras, too many different way the games were played. I know that Tom Brady has more Super Bowls but he also played almost twice as long.....if i had to pick a quarterback with 2 minutes to go to get a TD, I would pick Staubach. Montana and Brady would be right up there though.
Video brought to by Joe Montana
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Montana never once even hinted that he thought he was the goat, so... Wrong.
Exactly what I’ve always thought. Joe was just better. Didn’t reallize Brady’s numbers were that bad but I did always wonder about Brady’s Superbowl wins, especially Seattle.
What about his game against Seattle? That was one of the most impressive qb performances in Super Bowl history.
We all have recency bias. There's no doubt that both of these guys are great. Tom Brady's 7 championships appear to be the gold standard.
However, if you're going to have this discussion--you should include Otto Graham who played 10 years and made it to the Championship game every year, AND won it 7 times. I think Joe and Tom would say that'll get it done.
While the overall numbers won't look the same, consider if Graham played in today's era his passing numbers would be increased and if Tom played in Otto's era his numbers would be deflated. Also, Brady has noted that with the rule changes that have essentially eliminated hitting the quarterback, he would not have been able to play as long.
Just a little food for discussion!
No there is no recency bias. Teams now a days would absolutely destroy teams in Otto grahams era for the same reason babe Ruth would striked out in todays MLB. The players evolved. New passing schemes, new defensive schemes, new technology, new trainin, etc. Otto grahams era was ass compared to now a days. It’s not “recency bias” lol it’s y’all living in the past and can’t accept that Tom Brady is the undisputed GOAT.
@@yeer3433you don’t realize that 😂😂😂
@@yeer3433put Michael Jordan in todays nba he would just evolve around the rule sets and still be Michael Jordan we all love today
@@BabyGringo and you put Otto graham in todays game and he would become a 3rd string QB at best. Babe Ruth would strike out Damn near every bat.
@@BabyGringo you just can’t accept it🤣🤣🤣 move on players are better now
Oh ffs - Tom Brady, Joe Montana, me, your mom, and your cousin Elmo's prize cow have all won exactly as many NFL Championships - zero. Teams win championships, not the QB. That BS idea that you can determine who the GOAT is by counting rings is stupid and lazy. There's no objective way to determine who's actually the GOAT, but ask yourself who you'd want at QB if the clock reads 1:57 in the fourth quarter, you have the ball at your own 12 yard line and you're down by six points. You want Brady? Montana? Peyton Manning? Dan Marino? Mahomes? Bart Starr? Unless your answer is Timothée Chalamet, you've got a case.
The real argument you could make is the controversal spygate, deflategate, and the tuck rule. Would he even have those superbowls without cheating?
This is a Brady infiltration op...
Adam Vinaigrette makes this glow
Who?
I was born and raised in San Francisco during Joe's time. Joe is THE GOAT of GOATS.
Coming from a niner fan, Joe had more physical talent. but you can’t deny, Brady’s the goat.
To say he won his first super bowls by himself shows your total ignorance…. Done with video
Why u getting bradys ring count wrong so many times
This is ther most honest, informative video i have ever seen on who the actual goat is, ive been saying a lot of this stuff for a long time but i am glad someone put the obvious to video. Good job. GO JOE
Both quarterbacks are exceptional but remember Tom Brady lost a super bowl to the New York Giants Joe Montana never lost a super bowl making him the greatest ever.
That's nice but did he win 7 of them rings? The answer is NO which makes Brady the 🐐
@@normabatista1472 look I'll give you that Tom Brady is awesome he's a great quarterback he's in a class all by himself just like Joe Montana is Brady has seven and Montana has four but his performances were more dramatic I was there when Montana and the niners beat the cowboys and that dramatic game which Dwight Clark caught the game-winning touchdown that was awesome look I'm not trying to argue with you I love both quarterbacks butts Montana is the best my opinion of course
@@joseph-ui2xcur opinion doesn't matter....sports keep stats and records for a reason, its not subjective...saying Joe went 4-0 is literally saying he wasn't as consistent as Tom😂😂😂
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 my opinion does matter I'm a fan. I don't keep statistics of any kind just memories
@@normabatista1472 he cheated/payed off the refs in 6 of them so he should technically only have 1 ring
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Tom GOAT Brady
TWICE the Conference Title Games / Wins as Montana
7 Rings out of 10 SBS
Retired with Just about every NFL QB Record in the Regular Season , Playoffs , and SBs
Most Starts , Wins , Comebacks Ever
Greatest SB Comeback Win down 25 in mid 3rd Quarter
Created 2 Dynasties for one team in 19 years
Won a SB MVP in First Season with New team
Only SB MVP in AFC or NFC
Only QB ever to be responsible for 96 percent of his Head Coach's Career Playoff Success in 19 years
Won a SB MVP for two Floundering Fool Head Coaches
Defeated all 32 Teams at least once
Played for a Record 23 Seasons
Only QB ever to be 16 = 18 and 0 in a Season
First QB to win SB MVP in Home Stadium
Defeated Record HOFer QBs to get to SBs
Set Completion Records in his last 2 Seasons
Improved his Play as he got older
Case Closed
Brady lost 2 super bowls . Joe Montana didn't lose a super bowl. Enough said.
@timothygalli9601 Total Nonsense . Terry Bradshaw was 4 - 0 in SBs . Brady is 7 - 3 In SBs Vs Some of the Greatest SB Opponents ever . Brady has Unheard Of / Unparalleled NFL QB Records Singular to only him . He is One of One .
Case Closed
Finally! I thought I was the only person who knew this. Joe Montana never even was accused of cheating, let alone got caught cheating. Montana's perfect 4-0. 4 in 9 years. The list goes on. Thank you! And for the record, I've never been a 49ers fan and hated Joe Montana while he was playing because he always screwed my team out of our shot at the Superbowl. But facts are facts. Joe Montana, greatest QB to ever play the game.
The reason joe Montana is the real GOAT and Tom Brady is not is because joe didn't cheat and pay off the refs to help him win 7 super bowls.
Brady only has 1 legit Superbowl
@@zen..1222 yes and it was the one in 2004 vs the Panthers
@@zen..1222 lol he has 7 Super Bowl wins and that’s completely objective.
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If Leonard Marshall hit a QB during the Brady era the way he hit Montana, he'd be on death row. Not only did Montana come back but led a rinky-dink Chiefs team to the AFC Championship.
Just watch the 89’ 49ers game vs Eagles… Sacked 8 times against arguably the best defensive line of all time… losing 21-10 in the 4th Quarter… Winning 38-28 with 4 td passes in the 4th quarter… Montana was the best in his time and against the better defenses when they could hit the Qb all the time… Parcells/Ryan would try and knock out Montana every game… Now if you fart near a QB it’s a penalty… He would’ve thrived in this generation… Hard to compare because of the evolution of the game… Brady 1a Montana 1b or Montana 1a Brady 1b…
Brady played in the early 2000s when you could still hit...so try again
@@ASKMEABOUTMYGARDEN I can understand that… Do me a favor… Check their first 10yrs each in the league… and let me know what you find out…
@chrisbostwick9880 idht..I was alive back then..I liked the 49ers..but I grew up in mass so I'm a pats fan..I get it was tougher back then..but it doesn't matter... Tom Brady is the goat- Joe Montana...that's a quote.
@@ASKMEABOUTMYGARDENAnd Brady was a game manager then. He got great after the rule changes.