This is as heavy as heavy gets. Not an easy listen, but absolutely necessary. If we can't even look into the darkness, we'll never muster the courage to defeat it.
Emerging as one of the best new podcasts out there. The baddest dude ever and his more relatable sidekick Echo are a great combo. By the end of each episode, I'm ready to get my life organized and do some pushups.
People need to see and hear this Jocko. This country is in a bubble, people are clueless of what happens beyond the bubble. You and EC bring this brutality into the light and emphasize the truth about evil in the world. Thanks for this podcast and please continue your glorious mission in educating the weak.
“You can’t appreciate the light if you don’t understand the darkness” -Jocko Thank you for sharing this. It was tough to hear, especially being a mom of a baby, remotely empathizing is just so hard. I wish for this never to happen in the world again.
I found myself horrified and in tears, and at the same time felt grateful and indebted with the world. I thought the Japanese hell boats were the worst thing I could ever know, but this was a tougher one to listen to. Thank you.
I'm glad you still went forward and covered it. "The forgotten highlander" was some heavy stuff already, but this.. yeah. Every episode has been completely worth giving you gentlemen my undivided attention for two hours or more - something that's becoming increasingly rare amidst all this media hyperstimulation. But it's completely worth it and having video of it makes it even better. Thank you for everything.
The training thru injury thing is spot on. I injured my wrist a few years ago doing a clean and press. It was a debilitating injury. I have learned that lifting weights heals. So i simply dropped back to the bar with every exercise that irritated my wrist and worked my way back up to where i had been. Took a while but i am pain free now. Wrist fully healed.
I listened to this in full. I struggled but I felt it was my responsibility to finish, simply because Jocko took on the burden to share it with us. Thank you for your strength.
Eu já falei eu já dei meu telefone mandei o telefone e mandei o meu endereço e o meu nome tô esperando alguém me buscar para mim me apresentar da minha cabeça e queria deles a cabeça dele em juízo estou esperando alguém aí alguém daí de confiança me buscar aqui como garantia de vida da minha cabeça queria dele sem juízo é o que eu tô esperando alguém daí me buscar hein tô esperando sempre Alguém aí me buscar aqui se for possível de se tiver alguém de confiança com autoridade para me buscar que eu vou aí da minha cabeça e pegar a dele sem juízo tô esperando alguém chegar aqui o meu endereço e o telefone já mandei e o meu nome que aonde eu moro
I remember something like that from one of the conservative British politicians ~French revolution maybe burke I think but whomever said it he had a point
Agreed we need to know about Rawanda. Hard stuff, but needs to be covered. Its always really pissed me off that we sat back and did nothing. Never understood that and never will!
Hearing this story gave me chills. After hearing about the forgotten highlander i had to read it this one gives me the same feeling. You have to understand the darkness to appreciate the light💯
I was 15yrs old.....I remember the news clips, 2 of them. One from a distance of a woman being chased down a street and the other of the bodies coming down the river. I could not understand how the world stood idly by and let it happen. This podcast was tough but absolutely necessary. As Jocko said, it was no monster no evil spirit.....it was us. Human beings, "good people" did this. Understand the depths to which even we can defend.....then recognise that we can take the higher path. To choose the light. Today, right now we can be understanding and kind.
This is some of the craziest shit I've ever heard. Unbelievable. Thank you Jocko and Echo for the wise words and total motivation after such a dark episode.
Half way through podcast... I knew about this unforgivable atrocity... But this has left a permanent mark listening to you read the accounts in Machete Season. Having listened to 100s of hours of Jordan Peterson and his insight to listen to history as if you are the perpetrator, to find the darkness inside you so that you can then truly strive to be a better person (find the light) ... I'm not sure how I'm going to recover as this is the darkest of the dark. That being said. Now it's done this podcast was a necessity. Thank you for continuing the education Jocko, so that we can better learn to fight the evil of the world.
Wow this episode is mind boggling. So fucking insane. Thank you for doing this Jocko. People need to remember this shit so it doesn’t happen again. This really just reinforces the fact that we need to be an armed society. If those people’s neighbors were capable of doing that to each other with machetes then I can’t imagine
The Southern lynchings in the late 1800s and early 1900s was a version of this. Mobs would form when it was just rumored that a black man kissed a white woman. Look up the Tulsa Riot of 1921 and the other U.S. race related riots as well. Usually they involve corrupt police, rumors and "underlining anger."
Your podcast is at the top of my list! I just barely got over The Forgotten Highlander. Then, Machete Season. Very tough to listen to but the world needs to know. Thanks for getting through this. Can't wait for your next podcast! Keep up the good work!
Intense episode. Appreciate the reading. Really dark stuff, but makes one truly reflect on the nature of humanity and makes the world a more believable place than what we see on late night tv. Respect!
Really appreciate the podcast guys. It's refreshing to hear someone speak from experience. We need more badasses like you in this world. But not too many though, I still like junk food...
Its the perfect example of what J Peterson labels malevolence as opposed to tragedy. Tragedy is random; malevolence WE do to each other. Even just snapping at a coworker in anger is the same emotion
I put in pull up bars like when I was back in the Marines 20 years ago. Love the pull bar. Worst case, I can even hang clothes on it if I don't do pull ups; j/k
😂 Dr. Demento! Haven’t heard that in quite some time. Great childhood memory.... Thanks for your amazing service and sharing your excellent point of view on so many things of this world.
i cant believe this only has 57k views, i woulda thought over a million (this is one of favorite things on the internet.. goes great with spooky horror music) Panzram's great too.. nanking was ok
As a supplemental reading to this I recommend 'Journey into Darkness: Genocide in Rwanda' by Thomas P. Odom (Author), Dennis J. Reimer (Foreword). In July 1994, Thomas P. Odom, a US Army Military Attache was part of the U.S. Embassy team that responded to the Goma refugee crisis. Odom’s account of the events in Rwanda illustrate not only illustrate how failures in intelligence and policy happen, but also show that a human context is necessary to comprehend these political decisions. Also 'Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda' by Romeo Dallaire who was the UN Force Commander. He tried to get UN Headquarters in New York to mobilize but he was ignored.
One of the persistent rationales that Hutu genocidaires offered for their participation in mass killings was the allegedly uniform acceptance of the Rwandan Tutsi as subhumans. good men and women are obligated to stand and fight against this kind of evil.
You are correct. There are some composite characters in the movie but the overall gist of the story is accurate. See also the Canadian movie 'Shake Hands With The Devil'.
Jocko, You'll probably never read this because of how old this podcast is, but a good friend of mine shared this article with me. So much evil in this world, yet here is the world balancing itself out. Hope you enjoy. Kenny www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/06/magazine/06-pieter-hugo-rwanda-portraits.html
Surprised that more people didn’t know about the genocide. I was 11 when this happened and my dad explained it to me. Horrifying. Watch the movie Hotel Rwanda.
There are so many questionable events that have occurred over the last 15 years that YOU/ALL OF US need to QUESTION!!! And continue to question instead of following blindly..."Question everything..."
When you think about it, the mess and the stink are reason enough not to do this. What’s scary is that when those cease to be enough to stop people, people just don’t stop.
Jocko should read shake hands with devil by Romeo dallaire about how my country Canada lead the peace keeping mission their and how the deaths of people could have bin prevented if the UN would give the authority to shoot to protect civilians Dallarie even details all the massacres that took place including a church were a whole bunch of tutsi people were brutally massacred
when it boils down to it, these people did it because they were suddenly allowed to; it was deemed socially acceptable and they had a flimsy pretense i wonder if this would have happened among people in other parts of the world
True: Allowed to, socially acceptable, with some pretext thrown in. It was suddenly safe to rape at will, to murder, and to plunder everything. Physically safe obviously, but also legally and morally safe. The state won’t come after them because it’s the one that told them to do it. At 9:09 the reading indicates that the directive came straight out of a Judge’s own mouth, no less. It was like a court order, a guarantee that the courts will not and cannot come after the murderers. Nor would any of the victims come after them for anything because all the targeted people will be dead without exception. It was to be an absolutely COMPLETE genocide, and therefore a safe one.
@the Giggler As shocking as it may sound, England has already spent at least $6.6 million on pricey lawyers, just to keep those suspected killers from being even tried, let alone jailed. And the legal bill to defend them will only grow bigger. www.thesun.co.uk/news/9885939/five-genocide-suspects-who-sought-refuge-in-uk-run-up-5m-legal-aid-bill/
Inspirin stuff!!! Rollin on that General Tsubodai podcast mothafuckas!!! I don't know what jiu jitsu is but it sounds horrifyin in a very interestin way. NO SLACK
50 mins in and there has been 4 adverts... apparently youtube feels this is appropriate material to push noise cancellation earbuds and heart burn medication. Perhaps to help the listener to not hear the evil and to keep the acid from burning the throat as they feel sick to the stomach. Perhaps. I remember this happening when I was a child. In the UK we had a charity event, Red Nose Day probably, maybe Children in Need. It's safe to say they omitted certain parts of the tale. It did however provide an image that haunted and haunts my mind - an image of a child, naked, alone, crying, clutching a dirty stuffed rabbit like it was the world... to us it would be trash. We have so much and appreciate so little.
In my junior high we had a “genocide project” where we had to choose a genocide to do a research report. I chose Rwanda. It was heavy, especially for a 12 year old...the fact that ~7 people were murdered with machetes every minute is absolutely sickening.
Because the system has no interest in understanding the complexities of human behavior, or what horrible atrocities we are capable of. They would rather cherry pick what we study to push an agenda, or rather mold you as a cog into the machine. And anyone aware of such horrible atrocities knows the dangers of never questioning authority.
This is as heavy as heavy gets. Not an easy listen, but absolutely necessary. If we can't even look into the darkness, we'll never muster the courage to defeat it.
Well said
Emerging as one of the best new podcasts out there. The baddest dude ever and his more relatable sidekick Echo are a great combo. By the end of each episode, I'm ready to get my life organized and do some pushups.
I don't think I've heard or read a better summary. Couldn't agree more.
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People need to see and hear this Jocko. This country is in a bubble, people are clueless of what happens beyond the bubble. You and EC bring this brutality into the light and emphasize the truth about evil in the world. Thanks for this podcast and please continue your glorious mission in educating the weak.
Not just your country.
“You can’t appreciate the light if you don’t understand the darkness” -Jocko
Thank you for sharing this. It was tough to hear, especially being a mom of a baby, remotely empathizing is just so hard. I wish for this never to happen in the world again.
That being said... back to the book
Along with Hardcore Histories, this is my favourite podcast.
That’s a great pod also
I found myself horrified and in tears, and at the same time felt grateful and indebted with the world. I thought the Japanese hell boats were the worst thing I could ever know, but this was a tougher one to listen to. Thank you.
I'm glad you still went forward and covered it. "The forgotten highlander" was some heavy stuff already, but this.. yeah.
Every episode has been completely worth giving you gentlemen my undivided attention for two hours or more - something that's becoming increasingly rare amidst all this media hyperstimulation. But it's completely worth it and having video of it makes it even better. Thank you for everything.
The training thru injury thing is spot on. I injured my wrist a few years ago doing a clean and press. It was a debilitating injury. I have learned that lifting weights heals. So i simply dropped back to the bar with every exercise that irritated my wrist and worked my way back up to where i had been. Took a while but i am pain free now. Wrist fully healed.
I listened to this in full. I struggled but I felt it was my responsibility to finish, simply because Jocko took on the burden to share it with us. Thank you for your strength.
All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
Phoenix Langdon truth
Eu já falei eu já dei meu telefone mandei o telefone e mandei o meu endereço e o meu nome tô esperando alguém me buscar para mim me apresentar da minha cabeça e queria deles a cabeça dele em juízo estou esperando alguém aí alguém daí de confiança me buscar aqui como garantia de vida da minha cabeça queria dele sem juízo é o que eu tô esperando alguém daí me buscar hein tô esperando sempre Alguém aí me buscar aqui se for possível de se tiver alguém de confiança com autoridade para me buscar que eu vou aí da minha cabeça e pegar a dele sem juízo tô esperando alguém chegar aqui o meu endereço e o telefone já mandei e o meu nome que aonde eu moro
Or for an entire town to start hacking everyone with machetes
I remember something like that from one of the conservative British politicians ~French revolution maybe burke I think but whomever said it he had a point
Agreed we need to know about Rawanda. Hard stuff, but needs to be covered. Its always really pissed me off that we sat back and did nothing. Never understood that and never will!
Hearing this story gave me chills. After hearing about the forgotten highlander i had to read it this one gives me the same feeling. You have to understand the darkness to appreciate the light💯
I was 15yrs old.....I remember the news clips, 2 of them. One from a distance of a woman being chased down a street and the other of the bodies coming down the river. I could not understand how the world stood idly by and let it happen.
This podcast was tough but absolutely necessary. As Jocko said, it was no monster no evil spirit.....it was us. Human beings, "good people" did this. Understand the depths to which even we can defend.....then recognise that we can take the higher path. To choose the light.
Today, right now we can be understanding and kind.
thank you for doing this difficult work. never forget. never again.
This is some of the craziest shit I've ever heard. Unbelievable. Thank you Jocko and Echo for the wise words and total motivation after such a dark episode.
Half way through podcast... I knew about this unforgivable atrocity... But this has left a permanent mark listening to you read the accounts in Machete Season. Having listened to 100s of hours of Jordan Peterson and his insight to listen to history as if you are the perpetrator, to find the darkness inside you so that you can then truly strive to be a better person (find the light)
... I'm not sure how I'm going to recover as this is the darkest of the dark. That being said. Now it's done this podcast was a necessity. Thank you for continuing the education Jocko, so that we can better learn to fight the evil of the world.
Heavy content. But a valuable history lesson non the less.
Thanks for what you do.
Every podcast is great! Really getting me prepared for combat being a young infantryman.
Wow this episode is mind boggling. So fucking insane. Thank you for doing this Jocko. People need to remember this shit so it doesn’t happen again. This really just reinforces the fact that we need to be an armed society. If those people’s neighbors were capable of doing that to each other with machetes then I can’t imagine
The Southern lynchings in the late 1800s and early 1900s was a version of this. Mobs would form when it was just rumored that a black man kissed a white woman. Look up the Tulsa Riot of 1921 and the other U.S. race related riots as well. Usually they involve corrupt police, rumors and "underlining anger."
This reminded me of a Hardcore History episode. Powerful.
Your podcast is at the top of my list! I just barely got over The Forgotten Highlander. Then, Machete Season.
Very tough to listen to but the world needs to know. Thanks for getting through this. Can't wait for your next podcast! Keep up the good work!
This episode was equally terrifying as it was great and captivating.
This one is my favorite so far. Thanks for the motivation to discipline myself.
Its a battle to either listen or watch to the podcast.
Yesss. I had to stop listening to this one cause I knew it'd be worth the watch.
" Life is gonna have a vote "...I like that
Intense episode. Appreciate the reading. Really dark stuff, but makes one truly reflect on the nature of humanity and makes the world a more believable place than what we see on late night tv. Respect!
This is one of my favourite episodes from this podcast and it helped fuel my interest in African politics.
Really appreciate the podcast guys. It's refreshing to hear someone speak from experience. We need more badasses like you in this world. But not too many though, I still like junk food...
'what an atrocity. just... sick..... btw, we have tshirts!!!'- echo
lmao
Its the perfect example of what J Peterson labels malevolence as opposed to tragedy. Tragedy is random; malevolence WE do to each other. Even just snapping at a coworker in anger is the same emotion
Thank you, Jocko. We all need a tough reminder.
This has to be my favorite episode boys
That was a good one.Thanks for bringing us through the darkness.
this was incredibly powerful. thank you jocko
I actually did a case study of this event in highschool law class.
#1 podcast... spread the word, make this shit famous
Thank you, I wasn’t aware until now, no news station dared cover this
probably one of my favorite episodes so far
I like how Echo saves the best question for the end.
Late to the game, but i appreciate you going into the propaganda aspects of the Rwandan genocide. It's chilling.
I put in pull up bars like when I was back in the Marines 20 years ago.
Love the pull bar. Worst case, I can even hang clothes on it if I don't do pull ups; j/k
This episode was life changing.
😂 Dr. Demento! Haven’t heard that in quite some time.
Great childhood memory....
Thanks for your amazing service and sharing your excellent point of view on so many things of this world.
i cant believe this only has 57k views, i woulda thought over a million (this is one of favorite things on the internet.. goes great with spooky horror music) Panzram's great too.. nanking was ok
That needed to be shared.
Jesus christ... Im african and I come from Uganda, a neighbor to Rwanda, this is so savage... Im broken.
Best one so far
Started at #1 and counting. Keep it up fellas
As a supplemental reading to this I recommend 'Journey into Darkness: Genocide in Rwanda' by Thomas P. Odom (Author), Dennis J. Reimer (Foreword). In July 1994, Thomas P. Odom, a US Army Military Attache was part of the U.S. Embassy team that responded to the Goma refugee crisis. Odom’s account of the events in Rwanda illustrate not only illustrate how failures in intelligence and policy happen, but also show that a human context is necessary to comprehend these political decisions. Also 'Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda' by Romeo Dallaire who was the UN Force Commander. He tried to get UN Headquarters in New York to mobilize but he was ignored.
thank you for covering this book
Dark, dark stuff.
Thank you Jocko & Echo for stomaching the sharing of such evil. We must not forget the past, but remember, learn & move forward.
ODing on the podcast fellas!
One of the persistent rationales that Hutu genocidaires offered for their participation in
mass killings was the allegedly uniform acceptance of the Rwandan Tutsi as subhumans. good men and women are obligated to stand and fight against this kind of evil.
we are insanely lucky to have this
If your healthy, no excuses not to meet your obligations and do something productive for yourself.
Get Sam on the podcast! He owes you! haha
This is heavy. Along with The Forgotten Highlander...ooof. Keep it coming with the reality/gut checks.
Amazing podcast!!!!! More please!!!
This will let you know how capable man can be.
And I thought "Ordinary Men" was hard to listen to ... thank you for covering this book / topic, as horrifying it is.
Evil comes from other human beings. U can't look at the world the same after realizing this.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the movie Hotel Rwanda is about this. A very disturbing movie.
You are correct. There are some composite characters in the movie but the overall gist of the story is accurate. See also the Canadian movie 'Shake Hands With The Devil'.
You can really hear how much jocko wishes he could’ve helped, if only...
How quickly we've forgotten about this massacre.
God bless Jocko’s wife
The problem isn't that there's evil in the world. The problem is that heroes are given direct orders to not do their job.
Jocko, You'll probably never read this because of how old this podcast is, but a good friend of mine shared this article with me. So much evil in this world, yet here is the world balancing itself out. Hope you enjoy. Kenny
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/06/magazine/06-pieter-hugo-rwanda-portraits.html
Surprised that more people didn’t know about the genocide. I was 11 when this happened and my dad explained it to me. Horrifying. Watch the movie Hotel Rwanda.
There are so many questionable events that have occurred over the last 15 years that YOU/ALL OF US need to QUESTION!!!
And continue to question instead of following blindly..."Question everything..."
A Burgermeister is a major in German (24:51)
This will be the US in 50 years
sooner most likely
THANK YOU!
When you think about it, the mess and the stink are reason enough not to do this. What’s scary is that when those cease to be enough to stop people, people just don’t stop.
Great podcast dudes !!
I don't think I'll be able to listen to this till the end.
God damn...
I love this episode. Goes great with horror music (i know its real and horrible also, its like a campfire ghost story or something)
7:42 "you hear me talk about the darkness... well... this is it" Thats such a great line! :D
I remember this I wondered why world leaders did nothing they should be ashamed.
“They’re jealous of the jujits” 🤣🤣🤣
That being said..... everyone take a shot
Yep I did not know it was that bad.
Jocko should read shake hands with devil by Romeo dallaire about how my country Canada lead the peace keeping mission their and how the deaths of people could have bin prevented if the UN would give the authority to shoot to protect civilians Dallarie even details all the massacres that took place including a church were a whole bunch of tutsi people were brutally massacred
72 hours non-stop, been there, get the best sleep possible after
So crazy.
when it boils down to it, these people did it because they were suddenly allowed to; it was deemed socially acceptable and they had a flimsy pretense
i wonder if this would have happened among people in other parts of the world
True: Allowed to, socially acceptable, with some pretext thrown in. It was suddenly safe to rape at will, to murder, and to plunder everything. Physically safe obviously, but also legally and morally safe.
The state won’t come after them because it’s the one that told them to do it. At 9:09 the reading indicates that the directive came straight out of a Judge’s own mouth, no less. It was like a court order, a guarantee that the courts will not and cannot come after the murderers.
Nor would any of the victims come after them for anything because all the targeted people will be dead without exception. It was to be an absolutely COMPLETE genocide, and therefore a safe one.
absolutely.
Wow, this one got super dark.
Many of the Killers Migrated to the US and Europe, not all got prison time
the Giggler Most went into the jungles of the Congo.
@@markm2092 Crazy shit man
@the Giggler As shocking as it may sound, England has already spent at least $6.6 million on pricey lawyers, just to keep those suspected killers from being even tried, let alone jailed. And the legal bill to defend them will only grow bigger. www.thesun.co.uk/news/9885939/five-genocide-suspects-who-sought-refuge-in-uk-run-up-5m-legal-aid-bill/
Inspirin stuff!!! Rollin on that General Tsubodai podcast mothafuckas!!! I don't know what jiu jitsu is but it sounds horrifyin in a very interestin way. NO SLACK
If you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, the devil changes you.
Reminds me of lions killing with no remorse
Echo needs a fidget spinner. Lok
rj brown so we can hear him give it a hardy spin right when Jocko pauses after saying some heavy shit.
50 mins in and there has been 4 adverts... apparently youtube feels this is appropriate material to push noise cancellation earbuds and heart burn medication.
Perhaps to help the listener to not hear the evil and to keep the acid from burning the throat as they feel sick to the stomach. Perhaps.
I remember this happening when I was a child. In the UK we had a charity event, Red Nose Day probably, maybe Children in Need. It's safe to say they omitted certain parts of the tale. It did however provide an image that haunted and haunts my mind - an image of a child, naked, alone, crying, clutching a dirty stuffed rabbit like it was the world... to us it would be trash. We have so much and appreciate so little.
That being said = x
[That being said (x)]
Why was this never studied in school?
In my junior high we had a “genocide project” where we had to choose a genocide to do a research report. I chose Rwanda. It was heavy, especially for a 12 year old...the fact that ~7 people were murdered with machetes every minute is absolutely sickening.
Because they are too busy explaining why Columbus sucks.
I studied it in social class in grade 9 in Alberta Canada
they dont want you to become inspired
Because the system has no interest in understanding the complexities of human behavior, or what horrible atrocities we are capable of. They would rather cherry pick what we study to push an agenda, or rather mold you as a cog into the machine.
And anyone aware of such horrible atrocities knows the dangers of never questioning authority.
That was some heavy shit.
Anyone from the new clip?
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Did Echo tear his bicep, or did his bicep tear him?