Kudos on another great video with such superb editing from the comparison photos! The lightbulb sound effect was indeed a pleasant surprise! I 100% agree with you: fit is king, for sure! I also find that I prefer the look of the 618 over the 519 from its inclusion of the upper collar snaps. It just feels like a more well rounded and complete look to my eyes.
Thanks Trent! Experimenting with adding more sounds and interesting effects. At some point i will need to find someone to do the editing for me, it’s so time consuming! And good point, aside from the fit, 618 is more “the real deal” if that’s what you’re looking for
Great video, glad someone finally referenced ALL their relevant size stats! After looking at a lot of online videos and web sites I was even more confused and unsure of what size and style I needed in a Schott Perfecto. I ride so wanted this jacket for the bike. Didn't realize there was a Schott Jacket stockist near me in Sydney. I was able to actually try on a few styles and sizes. In the end saved me making a bad decision regarding size and style. FYI, I'm 177cm, 76kg and a 104cm or 41" chest. I found a size 42 in the Perfecto 618 was great for me, happy to support a local bricks and Mortar store as well...
@@rodneymcqueen1706 so nice to be able to try the fit before buying. In my recent size advice video I did stick with just chest measurement as a starting point. Though obviously everything does matter when you’re looking for something “just right”. Also being able to purchase in person saved you some killer shipping costs!
Great review! I remember needing this video years ago when I couldn’t decide which perfecto to purchase… I ended up with the 618 for all the reasons you described in your video however I don’t ride a bike anymore as I am in my 50’s and scared of falling off lol. I do however wear my 618 and always will!
Great video as always😊 Being 6’2 the 618 is way to short for me. The same with 613 and the standard 118 wich also is to bulky. 613s is an option as well, but i find the 519 as the best perfecto for me. The standard Schott biker jackets are really not made for taller guys. 519 is perfect, while i wish i could wear 618 as well. I also have Schott Per70 wich also fits great and are about the same fit as the 519. Im glad Schott making jackets for us taller guys as well 😅
Hah yeah, like I said to another comment there must be some folks buying these longer jackets because Schott keeps making em! But the long ones don’t work so well for me.
In the past at 1950 guys mostly are not very tall so 618 fit perfect but today boys are definitely taller and 618 when zipped look way smaller and practically front and back in cold weather you fill like your body is ..cut in two 😊so 519 is far better . The perfect jacket for me will be a 519 with the leather of 618 cause I am going every day for work with my bike Nice video and very very helpful
Great comparison Del! The 519 just came up on Reddit yesterday and I was a bit stumped just how much it deviated from the standard perfecto pattern. My two major takeaways here are the 519 is designed to be worn open and it probably won’t look well proportioned on someone shorter than about 6’
Between those two I’m totally in your camp Del. I think a simpler version of the 618 would appeal to me even more, losing the belt and epaulettes but retaining the short body length and longish arms. Thanks for the comparison!
I have a Schott x 3Sixteen 1 of 100 collab jacket that is in the 519 cut and I absolutely love it. Although mine is in the broken in cow hide, but in horsehide so it's much stiffer. If I didn't pick up this jacket I would've for sure gotten the standard 519 model.
@@DudsByDel I'm 5 7 at 135-140 pounds. The collab leather I got on mine is the 2020 model, so it's the horween black tea core leather. Fits great all around, super stiff but you can tell once it breaks in it's going to be beautiful. Only thing that bugs me is the way the zipper on wrists is. It's like the 519 in that regard
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I’m taller at 6’2” but still think I would go for the 618. Just adding the length and changing the leather makes the 519 design look off to me. That being said, I haven’t had a chance to try either on. Maybe soon 🤞😁.
What size is your 618? I have a similar build and have a 34, it fits perfectly on the sleeves but it’s too tight under my arms. Considering swapping for a 36
As I am comparatively tall, I would opt for the 519. The short cut of the 618 would just look too short on me and wouldn't look good. In the end, I got a 118 in the longer version and I think it's perfect.
The 519 has a very nice feature that the 618 and 613 should have it’s the snap on the belt that’s a huge feature to not scratch your gas tank. On the other hand the 519 is too long and slim on the waist so it lays on top of belt of the jeans and it’s very difficult to zip it up let alone ride in it it should be shorter… also the leather loses color on the sun that’s a bit ch and it looks kinda weird graish
I think they do the snap on 519 because the buckle is a little bigger. But yeah, I do like that snap. And as for length, I agree. Unless you’re pretty tall it seems made to go past your belt, my guess for folks who wear untucked shirts?
Sorry to ask, but was it really a 519? The 519 in your vdeo has a "un-patterned" lining, a flat lining - like a 626VN - but the pictures on the Schott Website shows the 519 with the diamond-shaped-patted lining?
If you watch I reference this in the later part of the video. It’s a 519 they made for Nordstrom with the red lining instead of standard quilted one. Everything else the same
I always go slimmer with these Moto Jackets. For Men or Women. It just looks better in my opinion. If you’re not sure at home? Go into a store and try them on. In time even a slimmer jacket will always mold to your Body Type.
True to an extent, but it will only stretch so much. Many people try to take advice that makes sense for flimsy lamb leather and it doesn't apply to more robust leathers. As for trying on in person, lots of people can't for whatever reason. Especially if you're buying used its often not an option
Nice review, Del! What do you think about 118 model? I saw a video on youtube where a guy compares 618 and 118. It would be interesting to hear what you think about 118. I remember trying on 618, 613 and 618 in horsehide 10 years ago) Man, those jackets are truly masterpieces. I was a poor student back then and I remember that the prices here in Kyiv, Ukraine were about 1000$. Can you imagine that? Taking to attention that the price on the oficial site of Schott was about 600$ back then) I'm still waiting for my 618 perfecto from Japan) By the way, you recently compared matte and shiny jackets. And I can assure you that when I put on the 618 in horsehide it was so fricking shiny, the pics on the oficial site won't give you that impression, such a wonderful jacket. Also would like to hear from you about the 618 in HH) Thanks for what you do Del! Peace!
Hey Dima, thanks! I like the leather on the 118, but its in the longer 26" category like the 519. So for me I think it will also end up being too long. For reference I had a 141 in the same naked cowhide, its a wonderful leather. I may try to do more Schott model comparisons if folks are intersted, including 618 vs 118 etc. $1000 vs $600! Thats a tough pill to swallow lol. And yes I've heard the Schott HH is extremely shiny. Would be curious to try it. The 613sh would be a tempting model....
@@DudsByDel I just realised that that 1 dollar cost 8 hrivnas (ukrainian currency) back then and the real price was 700$) Sorry for false info, but still it was big money for me back in the day) Yeah, and thank you for your riviews once again!)
I’m about three inches taller than you, and a little heavier than you… that 519 looks like it’d fit me just about perfectly. I always have the problem that biker jackets are way too short for my torso.
@@DudsByDel you seem to know a lot about Schott, are there any other models that you’d say work well for tall guys? Open to other brands as well and I don’t mind spending some money on it, but I want something quality. I have somewhat broad shoulders and a slight V taper. Just recently lost 70 pounds and I wanted to get myself a nice jacket now that I’m back to my optimal weight :)
@@WillMoon nice! There are honestly so many. Aero does some nice motorcycle jackets and you can ask for a sized down hem from the chest size. Schott’s 26” models of course. Lewis Leathers from the UK. Quite a few Japanese brands like Fine Creek have longer torso and sleeves which may work but the arms may be too slim
I think the 618 is better for you cause it broadens your shoulders and frame with the shorter boxier look as a regular shaped guy that isnt fat. the 519 is longer so it elongates your frame more than necessary. the 519 would be be better for people with broad shoulders (as it will elongate their frame in a way that flatters them) or taller people. again, 519 is good for those who dont want the boxier shorter fit emphasizing their broad shoulders too much or taller people.
I had a 519 that was stolen in March. It was too big for me and I couldn't sit with it zipped. I went for 518W since I'm a small dude and got in on sale for $450USD. It has blacked out hardware. It should fit me a bit better and arrives tomorrow.
It's always so weird to me when the reviewer will just show pictures of them wearing the jackets they are reviewing, but not actually wear it in the video
Honestly I like both! I think the term “fashion jacket” has a negative feeling about it…but you can have one of nice materials and fit that will age well.
That was my take too of course! I wonder how things would be different if I was a few inches taller? Would this 519 be better, or would I just be reaching for a sized up 618? Dunno
I liked the style of 618. I believe that jacket will build more character over time! Looks fabulous on you!!!
Definitely true, it will change and have more character develop than the 519. Thanks Chandra!
Kudos on another great video with such superb editing from the comparison photos! The lightbulb sound effect was indeed a pleasant surprise!
I 100% agree with you: fit is king, for sure! I also find that I prefer the look of the 618 over the 519 from its inclusion of the upper collar snaps. It just feels like a more well rounded and complete look to my eyes.
Thanks Trent! Experimenting with adding more sounds and interesting effects. At some point i will need to find someone to do the editing for me, it’s so time consuming! And good point, aside from the fit, 618 is more “the real deal” if that’s what you’re looking for
Great video, glad someone finally referenced ALL their relevant size stats! After looking at a lot of online videos and web sites I was even more confused and unsure of what size and style I needed in a Schott Perfecto. I ride so wanted this jacket for the bike. Didn't realize there was a Schott Jacket stockist near me in Sydney. I was able to actually try on a few styles and sizes. In the end saved me making a bad decision regarding size and style. FYI, I'm 177cm, 76kg and a 104cm or 41" chest. I found a size 42 in the Perfecto 618 was great for me, happy to support a local bricks and Mortar store as well...
@@rodneymcqueen1706 so nice to be able to try the fit before buying. In my recent size advice video I did stick with just chest measurement as a starting point. Though obviously everything does matter when you’re looking for something “just right”. Also being able to purchase in person saved you some killer shipping costs!
I got the 618HH, I'm 5'10" long legs, but a shorter torso, the 618 is perfect, now for the break-in process😊
Very nice! Enjoy it
Great review! I remember needing this video years ago when I couldn’t decide which perfecto to purchase… I ended up with the 618 for all the reasons you described in your video however I don’t ride a bike anymore as I am in my 50’s and scared of falling off lol. I do however wear my 618 and always will!
Oh dang falling off! That’s not the plan lol. Thanks Bob!
I love my 519, got it in 2017 and it was still made with steerhide (says so on the Tag too). Still, today I would prefer a 618.
@@Flo1984100 for me the 618 fit is much better. One day I’ll try out the 613s to compare!
Just got a used 618 today.perfectly broken in.great video 😊
Nice man. Gotta love it
Great video as always😊 Being 6’2 the 618 is way to short for me. The same with 613 and the standard 118 wich also is to bulky. 613s is an option as well, but i find the 519 as the best perfecto for me. The standard Schott biker jackets are really not made for taller guys. 519 is perfect, while i wish i could wear 618 as well. I also have Schott Per70 wich also fits great and are about the same fit as the 519. Im glad Schott making jackets for us taller guys as well 😅
Hah yeah, like I said to another comment there must be some folks buying these longer jackets because Schott keeps making em! But the long ones don’t work so well for me.
I agree I have the 519 as well
In the past at 1950 guys mostly are not very tall so 618 fit perfect but today boys are definitely taller and 618 when zipped look way smaller and practically front and back in cold weather you fill like your body is ..cut in two 😊so 519 is far better . The perfect jacket for me will be a 519 with the leather of 618 cause I am going every day for work with my bike
Nice video and very very helpful
Great comparison Del! The 519 just came up on Reddit yesterday and I was a bit stumped just how much it deviated from the standard perfecto pattern.
My two major takeaways here are the 519 is designed to be worn open and it probably won’t look well proportioned on someone shorter than about 6’
Yeah I feel that way about all of the modernized longer fits they do! But there must be people that like em because Schott keeps making em
You definitely got it right with the 618. Very helpful review and comparison!!
Thanks man, trying to help from my experience between the two
Great videos Showing different styles to wear them thank you 🙏🏻
You got it man! 👊💥
I have the 518 which is not bad to start of with right now, I’ll be saving up for one I get my first bike and then I will get the 618 .
Nice!
Between those two I’m totally in your camp Del. I think a simpler version of the 618 would appeal to me even more, losing the belt and epaulettes but retaining the short body length and longish arms.
Thanks for the comparison!
They do make a few “clean” perfecto styles but I think they may be longer, would have to go check
Yeah, from what I’ve seen the length is comprised as far as I’m concerned. Always looking though.@@DudsByDel
I have a Schott x 3Sixteen 1 of 100 collab jacket that is in the 519 cut and I absolutely love it. Although mine is in the broken in cow hide, but in horsehide so it's much stiffer. If I didn't pick up this jacket I would've for sure gotten the standard 519 model.
How tall are you? I love the look of the leather they’re using for some of those c collabs
@@DudsByDel I'm 5 7 at 135-140 pounds. The collab leather I got on mine is the 2020 model, so it's the horween black tea core leather. Fits great all around, super stiff but you can tell once it breaks in it's going to be beautiful. Only thing that bugs me is the way the zipper on wrists is. It's like the 519 in that regard
Excellent explination.
@@fredguerra4917 appreciate it Fred!
Thank you for this informative video. I take a 42 and a 613. What do you think my size would be in the 519? Thank you so much.
Hi Salvatore! I believe Large is most likely your fit in the 519.
The 613 and 618 are very close. I wear a 40 in the 618 and had a medium 519
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@@DudsByDel thank you so much for your quick response. If I do decide to buy 519, I will definitely go through the link that you sent
I’m taller at 6’2” but still think I would go for the 618. Just adding the length and changing the leather makes the 519 design look off to me. That being said, I haven’t had a chance to try either on. Maybe soon 🤞😁.
Yeah I kinda feel that way but just am not sure how it would work. Would like to see a comparison like this but on a taller person
@@DudsByDel hmmm, challenge accepted. 😁
congratulations, nice video that you tried with 519, but you have to try at least with this 118 model and let me know
Yeah I would like to do a comparison of the top 4 or 5
What size is your 618? I have a similar build and have a 34, it fits perfectly on the sleeves but it’s too tight under my arms. Considering swapping for a 36
It’s a 40
My 519 sleeve zippers have leather when unzipped. There is no see through which I like a lot better than the one you have.
Interesting, maybe a particular period where they made em like that?
As I am comparatively tall, I would opt for the 519. The short cut of the 618 would just look too short on me and wouldn't look good.
In the end, I got a 118 in the longer version and I think it's perfect.
Oh wow, the long 118. That’s a long jacket!
The 519 has a very nice feature that the 618 and 613 should have it’s the snap on the belt that’s a huge feature to not scratch your gas tank. On the other hand the 519 is too long and slim on the waist so it lays on top of belt of the jeans and it’s very difficult to zip it up let alone ride in it it should be shorter… also the leather loses color on the sun that’s a bit ch and it looks kinda weird graish
I think they do the snap on 519 because the buckle is a little bigger. But yeah, I do like that snap. And as for length, I agree. Unless you’re pretty tall it seems made to go past your belt, my guess for folks who wear untucked shirts?
Sorry to ask, but was it really a 519? The 519 in your vdeo has a "un-patterned" lining, a flat lining - like a 626VN - but the pictures on the Schott Website shows the 519 with the diamond-shaped-patted lining?
If you watch I reference this in the later part of the video. It’s a 519 they made for Nordstrom with the red lining instead of standard quilted one. Everything else the same
@@DudsByDel Thanks for your swift reply - shame on me - I missed it on the end ....
@@o.p.8461 no prob!
I always go slimmer with these Moto Jackets. For Men or Women. It just looks better in my opinion. If you’re not sure at home? Go into a store and try them on. In time even a slimmer jacket will always mold to your Body Type.
True to an extent, but it will only stretch so much. Many people try to take advice that makes sense for flimsy lamb leather and it doesn't apply to more robust leathers. As for trying on in person, lots of people can't for whatever reason. Especially if you're buying used its often not an option
Nice review, Del! What do you think about 118 model? I saw a video on youtube where a guy compares 618 and 118. It would be interesting to hear what you think about 118.
I remember trying on 618, 613 and 618 in horsehide 10 years ago) Man, those jackets are truly masterpieces. I was a poor student back then and I remember that the prices here in Kyiv, Ukraine were about 1000$. Can you imagine that? Taking to attention that the price on the oficial site of Schott was about 600$ back then)
I'm still waiting for my 618 perfecto from Japan) By the way, you recently compared matte and shiny jackets. And I can assure you that when I put on the 618 in horsehide it was so fricking shiny, the pics on the oficial site won't give you that impression, such a wonderful jacket. Also would like to hear from you about the 618 in HH)
Thanks for what you do Del! Peace!
Hey Dima, thanks! I like the leather on the 118, but its in the longer 26" category like the 519. So for me I think it will also end up being too long. For reference I had a 141 in the same naked cowhide, its a wonderful leather. I may try to do more Schott model comparisons if folks are intersted, including 618 vs 118 etc.
$1000 vs $600! Thats a tough pill to swallow lol.
And yes I've heard the Schott HH is extremely shiny. Would be curious to try it. The 613sh would be a tempting model....
@@DudsByDel I just realised that that 1 dollar cost 8 hrivnas (ukrainian currency) back then and the real price was 700$) Sorry for false info, but still it was big money for me back in the day) Yeah, and thank you for your riviews once again!)
I’m about three inches taller than you, and a little heavier than you… that 519 looks like it’d fit me just about perfectly. I always have the problem that biker jackets are way too short for my torso.
@@WillMoon yeah at that height unless you have a real short torso proportionately it makes sense
@@DudsByDel you seem to know a lot about Schott, are there any other models that you’d say work well for tall guys? Open to other brands as well and I don’t mind spending some money on it, but I want something quality. I have somewhat broad shoulders and a slight V taper. Just recently lost 70 pounds and I wanted to get myself a nice jacket now that I’m back to my optimal weight :)
@@WillMoon nice! There are honestly so many. Aero does some nice motorcycle jackets and you can ask for a sized down hem from the chest size. Schott’s 26” models of course. Lewis Leathers from the UK. Quite a few Japanese brands like Fine Creek have longer torso and sleeves which may work but the arms may be too slim
I think the 618 is better for you cause it broadens your shoulders and frame with the shorter boxier look as a regular shaped guy that isnt fat. the 519 is longer so it elongates your frame more than necessary. the 519 would be be better for people with broad shoulders (as it will elongate their frame in a way that flatters them) or taller people. again, 519 is good for those who dont want the boxier shorter fit emphasizing their broad shoulders too much or taller people.
@@milkshakeplease4696 yeah I could see that. Thanks for the thoughts
I had a 519 that was stolen in March. It was too big for me and I couldn't sit with it zipped. I went for 518W since I'm a small dude and got in on sale for $450USD. It has blacked out hardware. It should fit me a bit better and arrives tomorrow.
Sucks about the stolen jacket…fingers crossed for the fit on the new one!
Thanks Del!
618！
After all it's this way！
618で決まりっしょ👌
Yes indeed the 618 for me!
It's always so weird to me when the reviewer will just show pictures of them wearing the jackets they are reviewing, but not actually wear it in the video
well in this case, I only had one of them on hand. I mentioned in the video that I sold the 519 some time ago. I do like a "live demonstration" too
😍😍😍😍
Appreciate it Nomos
We don't need fashion jackets, we need real !
Honestly I like both! I think the term “fashion jacket” has a negative feeling about it…but you can have one of nice materials and fit that will age well.
Yes!
618 looks better to me.
That was my take too of course! I wonder how things would be different if I was a few inches taller? Would this 519 be better, or would I just be reaching for a sized up 618? Dunno