By far the best video showing how to setup a livescope system. I had a friend that paid $500 for his install and it looked like a 3 year old installed it. Your install was super clean. Great Video!!!
I'd recommend you put the inline fuse within 12 inches of battery. With the in line fuse in the bow you have a long length of wire with no short circuit protection. I hope that makes sense.. I'd put a but splice where you put the fuse and put fuse between battery and switch.
This is an excellent tutorial for anyone wondering if they should follow it or not. I just installed my unit following this step by step, and he's got it nailed down to the materials needed and time for install. Thank you for posting.
It's nice to see a really good quality install and not a hack job. I'm saving this for a future install. Haven't quite pulled the trigger on the forward facing sonar. Does work well though.
This instructional video is awesome. Very nicely paced and easy to follow. Definitely going to have my fishing buddies help with install. Look forward to more videos.
I'm happy to not hear music in the beginning of this video. Not overly produced video. Less is more. The cutoff switch is something I haven't considered. 🤔 I'm glad I watched.
Thank you! Honestly you probably don’t need the cut off switch… in my experience, when my graph is off then the black box is off. But it doesn’t hurt to have it
Great video, you're inspiring me to put Live Scope on my Z18. Already have the Garmin Force and two UHD finders. Looking forward to seeing any updates on it's use once you get it wet.
Best video out there with perfect instructions! I’ll be installing mine this weekend and will definitely be using this video as reference!! Thank you!!
Great video showing how to install the hardware! I thought I would mention that fuses should be installed directly to the power source in order to work properly. Hope this helps!
Yes that was one of the things I learned after doing this install. Surprising that the only way to install farther from your battery is to move the factory installed fuse… but yes you are right, the fuse should have been right next to the battery. Thanks!
@@EverydayfishingI learned the hard way on my first boat several years ago! Its easy to mislead people since the power cable comes with a fuse installed on the positive lead. So I took an online course on electronics and it help a ton on setting up power on my boat...as well as many other installs
The gl 10 box has an Earth ground Symbol on the back not a negative to the battery this is to prevent RF interference, yes your battery negative is grounded to the motor, and the motor is grounded in the water, but when you ground to negative on battery the RF and blue tooth signal can travel through all the units connected to the battery if you have interference. You need to ground the gl 10 to a water ground some boats have a ground in the hull some have a metal plate under the dash. VHF hi-power radios must have water ground it would mess up your electrical system. I talked to Garmin Tech about this on the phone. If you have a problem water ground!
Very nice and clean install, perfect instructions waiting on my garmin 1222 bundle definetly will be doing my own install direct to battery.cant beat this video
I can tell you are very organized good thourogh tutorial as far as NOT having a designated LS battery,,,,carry some juper cables (thank me later on the way to buy a designated LS battery) ps SWEET CRIMPERS
Excellent Video! I just watched it As I just finished my install as well I did almost the same install Except I have at console a Blue Seas Fuse Block and wired Black Box and Echmap Ultra to it Actually double fused I don’t understand why Garmin only supples a 6’ network cable Why not for $4K purchase they can’t add a 10-12’ foot cable What bracket did you use for Lowrance and Garmin? Very nice and professional install I have to say you have made the best install video I found Thanks for all your great work
Yeah I did end up connecting it because the instructions said to - I guess it works the same way any ground does… some people say it helps get a clearer picture than if you didn’t
It’s all the same terminal… really doesn’t matter. But if I had large terminal connectors then I suppose I would have just to save space. Honestly just never keep those around.
Thank you! Garmin and most people recommend that you run power to your black box directly from the battery to remove the chance of any interference. Theory is the more direct power the better picture you’ll get from the LiveScope. Not sure if it’s 100% based in science but it’s easy enough to do so why not
So, a network cable is needed to connect from the garnin graph to black box? How did you get power for your graph from a fuse block or did you go direct to your battery?
Garmin supplies you with the cable needed to go from the black box to the graph. I did run power from the fuse block in my drivers console to my graph. Power for the black box goes directly to the battery.
Realizing that you haven't had it in use for very long, but are you satisfied with it mounted on the trolling motor or are you considering a dedicated mount of some type for it? I have an Ultrexx and use Spot Lock a lot, so I am a bit torn. About to pull the trigger on the LVS34, but still unsure how I want to mount it. On the TM for sure to start though since that gets me in the water the quickest. Thanks for the video!!
Yeah honestly I haven’t had any complaints with it being on the TM. I’d rather not take up space on the deck with another mount. If I do plan to use spot lock, I’ll take a mental note of where the fish/structure was, and make my casts that way.
Well done as commented last week Question I have the Black Box wired 14 gauge to the Blue Seas Fuse Panel as well as the Garmin Echo unit to the Blue Seas Fuse Panel Should I redo the Black Box with 10 gauge and run directly to battery compartment with a Switch as you did? I like the idea of Disconnecting Power of Black Box It looks like you wired to the Starting Battery My Blue Seas Fuse Panel is fed with 10 gauge from switch connected to AGM Battery which is also my starting battery With that being said maybe not a good idea to wire Blk Box thru Blue Seas Panel with no switch at this time. I see on your video there is a Green Light on Black Box Do you have a link for purchasing the switch and duplex 8-10 gauge wire? Thanks again So easy to follow and listen to your great install.
I'm glad it was helpful! Honestly it seems like my switch on the black box power was not needed. When I turn my Garmin graph off, the black box goes off. So I think that's all you need if you're concerned about saving battery when not using the LiveScope. As for direct power straight from the battery, as long as you're getting a clear picture when using your LiveScope, I wouldn't worry about by passing the fuse panel. I've heard that some people who have lots of interference in their picture have ran power straight to the battery to help that issue. But I don't think its always the case.
I'm curious to know how your front graphs ride on the front Nitro metal plate? I hear the weight of two graphs causes the screws that secure the plate eventually loosen and you have to use larger screws to hold the plate down.
I have heard the same but I haven't had that issue yet. I've had them installed for almost 2 years now without the plate coming lose. Granted, I do check every couple trips to make sure they stay tight, but no issues so far.
@@Everydayfishing Thanks for replying, I'm sure you're a busy guy like me. I also have a Z18 (2022) that came with Active Target so I'm curious what gauge wire they used from the factory. I also have a power switch at the console that shuts off the Active Target box, which is located just a few feet from it in the front right storage box. Would you still recommend updating the wire from the battery to that power switch?
@@backcountrybrian3746 I would guess they used 10ga - which is the minimum Garmin recommends. If you're happy with the performance of the graph and livescope, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If the wire is accessible, you could run the unit for a bit, then try feeling the wire for any heat... as long as it's not getting too hot (fire hazard) then I'm sure it's ok!
I used the shaft mount bracket and I have it on the right side of the shaft... and my TM stows to the port side. So when stowed, the TM nose cone faces outward and transducer is on top.
Does anyone know if I have to run a separate power cable for the livescope or can I use the same cable running my 93sv. I’m using a 8awg cable from the battery to the 93sv. Thanks in advance.
That would have probably worked just fine - but from all I've ready about LiveScope, people seem to think it does best with a direct line straight back to the battery. Plus, I don't know what gauge wire was ran to the trolling motor by the factory, and if I run it to the battery myself, I at least know it's a big enough gauge wire to deliver enough power.
Question 🙋 so i have a kayak with a 100 amp battery for my trolling motor xi3 and a 20 amp battery for my 106sv do you think i can plug my black box to my 100 amp trolling motor battery and keep my 106sv on the 20 amp? Reason i want to split the power is i dont wanna have to buy another 30to 40 amp battery do you think i may run into problems if i split the power of the black box and fish finder, hopefully i made sense thanks.
I don't think using different power sources for black box/graph is an issue, but where you might have problems is if you connect either to a trolling motor battery. Usually people get interference on the graph when it's connected to a trolling motor battery, so I would assume that also stands for connecting a black box to it. Rather than get a third battery, could you maybe just get a bigger second battery to power your electronics?
Quick question, does the cable coming from the black box to the screen also power it? Or does the screen require its own power cable as well plugged in? So if its only dedicated for livescope the screen will have one or 2 cords connected to the back?
The Garmin unit and the black box both require dedicated power. The cable that connects the black box to the unit is for data transfer only… so yeah, need to supply power to each
I think the Garmin LVS34 looks more clear than the Lowrance AT2… Garmin has better target separation. Look up some comparison videos RUclips. I’m very happy I went with Garmin!
No you don’t need it - I actually sold mine. You could keep it in case you ever want to use down imaging… but if your graph only has one transducer input, you’ll need to unplug the LiveScope to plug in the UHD56
The power switch already installed shuts off power to everything... I wanted to be able to only shut off the LVS34 Black Box. That's the only reason I added the second switch.
Are you not planning on using perspective mode? It appears that with this method of mounting there will not be enough play in the cable to change it to perspective mode
Yeah good point - to be honest I haven't taken it out of forward mode! It's just so useful... but yes if I do switch modes, I'll probably cut some of that tape and give it more slack.
Nice install but I’d seriously consider adding another battery. You have way too much off of the cranking battery. If you can I’d isolate your electronics to that battery and keep minimal devices on your cranking battery. I know a few guys that needed a job for this reason. Otherwise great install.
This is the 106SV - I did not have to do an update for it to see the LiveScope Plus... but Garmin recommends that you run the latest update when installing. It did work right out of the box for me though.
Thanks! The mount is the Hennessey Outdoor Electronics Dual Mount - I’ve been very happy with it hennesseyoutdoorelectronics.com/collections/hennessey-outdoor-products/products/hoe-universal-duel-mount
@@Everydayfishing I want to thank you again for your video. I purchased a LVS32 Transducer and GLS 10 Sonar Sonar Black box from BassPro. The sales deal came with free installation. But after talking to the service department there they said they would need to install wiring and battery shut off switch along with connectors for a extra charge. It was about $400.00 I knew immediately that I can install myself. They were going to charge me all that for screwing in the black box and connecting it to a 8 AWG wire to battery. Thank God I have tools and enough knowledge to do it myself. Your video just confirmed everything for me. Thank you again.
@@rickgarza1041 Heck yeah - you can definitely do it yourself! Plus you get a good working knowledge of how it's all connected and it helps with any troubleshooting you might need to do in the future.
All depends on how far your run is… the instructions explain what gauge is needed for certain distances. But I figure it never hurts to have higher gauge
The LVS34 is Garmin's newest livescope model - I would absolutely recommend it. I catch fish every time out because I spotted brush, rocks, or bait that I'd have never seen without it.
How did you supply power to your Garmin fish finder? Can you hook it to the same power cord from the battery or will that cause interference with the black box? I haven’t started my install yet. I have a older nitro 750 and I’m keeping my helix seven on the front and then hooking a Garmin 1022 strictly for live scope.
My Garmin unit power is connected to the power bank under my front panel. You could run power directly back to the battery if you didn’t have that option, but I just didn’t need to go that far
One other question where did you get your eight gauge white wire? I went to Lowe’s. They didn’t have nothing but separate wires. I’d love to be able to just run one wire. Thanks.
So did you have to run power from the graph also? The directions only show power from the black box to the battery and then the network cable from the black box to the graph. Greta video by the way!
Yes graph has a separate power supply - mine runs back to the fuse box inside the drivers console but you can also run it straight back to the battery.
Dos preguntas: no hará interferencias con el motor eléctrico? Y la segunda, si el motor se mueve, con el GPS, cambiará la dirección del objetivo, no crees? Muy buen vídeo, enhorabuena.
It will not interfere with the motor. And yes it will swing around as you turn your trolling motor. You need a turret if you want to have the transducer independent of the trolling motor.
The existing switch cuts all battery power to the boat… so that would work if that’s what you want. I wanted to be able to cut power to just the black box in case I didn’t need the LiveScope or needed to conserve.
I have a 2021 Z18 with a helix 7 on the bow. Just curious if you have a boat cover, if the cover fits over things well or if it’s a little too high with that mount? Just trying to figure out what mount I want to get but I like the looks of that one if it’ll fit under my cover, although I don’t use the cover much
I don't actually have a cover - my boat stays in the garage so I never ordered one. I imagine this mount would stick up too high though. You can always order a cover and take it somewhere to have it altered... I know a lot of people do that for bigger trolling motors.
I am pretty sure that turning the graph off or putting it to sleep does cut the power to the black box. My black box light goes out when the graph is off. So an in-line shut off is probably not necessary.
Yes you can depending on which graph you are using... you'll need one that can connect to both sources. I've never ran both at once - you also might get interference.
I watched your video and see you installed the unit in a Nitro z18. I have a Z7, same boat, just a little older. How many feet of the 8/2 flat wire did you use?
Unless your battery is within 6 feet of your black box, it’s pretty difficult to have it right next to the battery. Instructions specifically say to leave the fuse provided by the factory
No you don't - when I change spots, I use the "sleep" feature on the Garmin graph, and this stops the transducer. I don't think I needed the extra battery disconnect switch that I installed - it does appear that all power is cut off to the black box when the Garmin unit is asleep or off.
Absolutely… it’s incredible. First time out I was able to clearly see different kinds of structure, identify fish, make casts to them and catch fish. I’m super impressed
@@Everydayfishing 1 question, 1 thought. Where did you find the switch? Maybe the switch will stop battery charging from back feeding box and plotter. Maybe not. Again where can I find the switch? Thanks nice video.
One of the best instructional videos I've seen. Excellent camera work, explanation and to the point. Thanks for sharing 👍
I appreciate the kind words! Glad you found it helpful
By far the best video showing how to setup a livescope system. I had a friend that paid $500 for his install and it looked like a 3 year old installed it. Your install was super clean. Great Video!!!
Thank you! Glad you liked it
that is the cleanest 1 year old bilge i have ever seen. congrats on keeping it clean :)
Haha - thank you... water doesn't get in it much so its been easy to keep clean
I'd recommend you put the inline fuse within 12 inches of battery. With the in line fuse in the bow you have a long length of wire with no short circuit protection. I hope that makes sense.. I'd put a but splice where you put the fuse and put fuse between battery and switch.
This is an excellent tutorial for anyone wondering if they should follow it or not. I just installed my unit following this step by step, and he's got it nailed down to the materials needed and time for install. Thank you for posting.
I’m glad you found it helpful!
It's nice to see a really good quality install and not a hack job. I'm saving this for a future install. Haven't quite pulled the trigger on the forward facing sonar. Does work well though.
Except for the fuse, it should be at beginning of circuit.
There's professional installer who don't do as good of a job as you. Great work!!!
Thank you! Hope you found it useful
Nice job man, good work. I like it when a man is particular about his work.
This instructional video is awesome. Very nicely paced and easy to follow. Definitely going to have my fishing buddies help with install. Look forward to more videos.
Awesome man, glad you enjoyed it!
I'm happy to not hear music in the beginning of this video. Not overly produced video. Less is more. The cutoff switch is something I haven't considered. 🤔 I'm glad I watched.
Thank you! Honestly you probably don’t need the cut off switch… in my experience, when my graph is off then the black box is off. But it doesn’t hurt to have it
@@Everydayfishing I already ordered it anyway 😀
amazing! you just saved me $500+ to get it installed!
Great job!
Yes sir - anyone can do the install if you take your time - glad you found the video helpful!
Great video, you're inspiring me to put Live Scope on my Z18. Already have the Garmin Force and two UHD finders. Looking forward to seeing any updates on it's use once you get it wet.
I’ve been out with it a few times now… it’s incredible. First time using it I was able to identify fish, cast to them, and catch one. It’s nuts!
Best video out there with perfect instructions! I’ll be installing mine this weekend and will definitely be using this video as reference!! Thank you!!
Great video showing how to install the hardware! I thought I would mention that fuses should be installed directly to the power source in order to work properly. Hope this helps!
Yes that was one of the things I learned after doing this install. Surprising that the only way to install farther from your battery is to move the factory installed fuse… but yes you are right, the fuse should have been right next to the battery. Thanks!
@@EverydayfishingI learned the hard way on my first boat several years ago! Its easy to mislead people since the power cable comes with a fuse installed on the positive lead. So I took an online course on electronics and it help a ton on setting up power on my boat...as well as many other installs
by far the best install video made, helped me 100%. Thanks for making it!
I'm glad you found it useful!
Nice install. Only thing I would do different is cut the supplied power cable and splice the 8 AWG wire 8" from the connector as instructed by Garmin.
Well done video. I know nothing about Livescope, and this is a very good explanation.
Thank you - glad it was useful!
The gl 10 box has an Earth ground Symbol on the back not a negative to the battery this is to prevent RF interference, yes your battery negative is grounded to the motor, and the motor is grounded in the water, but when you ground to negative on battery the RF and blue tooth signal can travel through all the units connected to the battery if you have interference. You need to ground the gl 10 to a water ground some boats have a ground in the hull some have a metal plate under the dash. VHF hi-power radios must have water ground it would mess up your electrical system. I talked to Garmin Tech about this on the phone. If you have a problem water ground!
doing some studying and your videos are the perfect study guide, thank you so much, I love your stuff.
Thank you - I’m glad they helped!
Excellent video, thank you, I will be using this for a guide, when I install mine.
Awesome, glad it was helpful!
Thank you for making this video. Appreciate the help it will provide me with my install.
Nicely done video content !!!
Good stuff, nice clean install. Thx
Great video! Learned a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice and clean install, perfect instructions waiting on my garmin 1222 bundle definetly will be doing my own install direct to battery.cant beat this video
Awesome man, glad you found it helpful! You're going to love the LVS34
Are you going to connect your graph and black box to the same battery
Good thing you put on/off switch on cause yes black box will drain battery
I can tell you are very organized
good thourogh tutorial
as far as NOT having a designated LS battery,,,,carry some juper cables (thank me later on the way to buy a designated LS battery)
ps SWEET CRIMPERS
Thank you! So far so good with the starting battery… haven’t been stranded yet, but I do carry jumper cables just in case. Good advice!
plenty of room for that 4th battery, might as well make it the 29 series
cheers mate
Excellent Video!
I just watched it
As I just finished my install as well
I did almost the same install
Except I have at console a Blue Seas Fuse Block and wired Black Box and Echmap Ultra to it
Actually double fused
I don’t understand why Garmin only supples a 6’ network cable
Why not for $4K purchase they can’t add a 10-12’ foot cable
What bracket did you use for Lowrance and Garmin?
Very nice and professional install
I have to say you have made the best install video I found
Thanks for all your great work
Thank you! I'm glad it helped. My graph mount is the H.O.E. Dual Mount from Hennessey Outdoors. Very solid and reasonably priced. I'm happy with it!
I mounted mine sideways so I could access all 4 screws
Can I connect my graph and black box to one cut off switch ? I don’t guess it would hurt anything
Yeah that would be fine… you just wouldn’t be able to run the graph with the LS off.
Thanjks but Id suggest a closer and better view of the supply wire connection to the blackbox and the battery
Did you not connect the ground.to the ground screw on the black box? What exactly is the purpose of that ground screw?
Yeah I did end up connecting it because the instructions said to - I guess it works the same way any ground does… some people say it helps get a clearer picture than if you didn’t
good job i must say
Did you have to run a grond to water ground
Should use all of the battery post on top of battery. Big post for big wires.
It’s all the same terminal… really doesn’t matter. But if I had large terminal connectors then I suppose I would have just to save space. Honestly just never keep those around.
Awesome vid! Curious as to why you didn't use the fuse box at the helm that you used for the garmin graph?
Thank you! Garmin and most people recommend that you run power to your black box directly from the battery to remove the chance of any interference. Theory is the more direct power the better picture you’ll get from the LiveScope. Not sure if it’s 100% based in science but it’s easy enough to do so why not
So, a network cable is needed to connect from the garnin graph to black box?
How did you get power for your graph from a fuse block or did you go direct to your battery?
Garmin supplies you with the cable needed to go from the black box to the graph. I did run power from the fuse block in my drivers console to my graph. Power for the black box goes directly to the battery.
Is that silicone wire inside the white sheathing that you used for power?
Yeah each wire is silicone coated but outside sheath is PVC. The one I purchased is called marine duplex wire - on Amazon
Realizing that you haven't had it in use for very long, but are you satisfied with it mounted on the trolling motor or are you considering a dedicated mount of some type for it? I have an Ultrexx and use Spot Lock a lot, so I am a bit torn. About to pull the trigger on the LVS34, but still unsure how I want to mount it. On the TM for sure to start though since that gets me in the water the quickest.
Thanks for the video!!
Yeah honestly I haven’t had any complaints with it being on the TM. I’d rather not take up space on the deck with another mount. If I do plan to use spot lock, I’ll take a mental note of where the fish/structure was, and make my casts that way.
Well done as commented last week
Question
I have the Black Box wired 14 gauge to the Blue Seas Fuse Panel as well as the Garmin Echo unit to the Blue Seas Fuse Panel
Should I redo the Black Box with 10 gauge and run directly to battery compartment with a Switch as you did?
I like the idea of Disconnecting Power of Black Box
It looks like you wired to the Starting Battery
My Blue Seas Fuse Panel is fed with 10 gauge from switch connected to AGM Battery which is also my starting battery
With that being said maybe not a good idea to wire Blk Box thru Blue Seas Panel with no switch at this time.
I see on your video there is a Green Light on Black Box
Do you have a link for purchasing the switch and duplex 8-10 gauge wire?
Thanks again
So easy to follow and listen to your great install.
I'm glad it was helpful! Honestly it seems like my switch on the black box power was not needed. When I turn my Garmin graph off, the black box goes off. So I think that's all you need if you're concerned about saving battery when not using the LiveScope.
As for direct power straight from the battery, as long as you're getting a clear picture when using your LiveScope, I wouldn't worry about by passing the fuse panel. I've heard that some people who have lots of interference in their picture have ran power straight to the battery to help that issue. But I don't think its always the case.
I'm curious to know how your front graphs ride on the front Nitro metal plate? I hear the weight of two graphs causes the screws that secure the plate eventually loosen and you have to use larger screws to hold the plate down.
I have heard the same but I haven't had that issue yet. I've had them installed for almost 2 years now without the plate coming lose. Granted, I do check every couple trips to make sure they stay tight, but no issues so far.
@@Everydayfishing Thanks for replying, I'm sure you're a busy guy like me. I also have a Z18 (2022) that came with Active Target so I'm curious what gauge wire they used from the factory. I also have a power switch at the console that shuts off the Active Target box, which is located just a few feet from it in the front right storage box. Would you still recommend updating the wire from the battery to that power switch?
@@backcountrybrian3746 I would guess they used 10ga - which is the minimum Garmin recommends. If you're happy with the performance of the graph and livescope, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If the wire is accessible, you could run the unit for a bit, then try feeling the wire for any heat... as long as it's not getting too hot (fire hazard) then I'm sure it's ok!
looks like you have the prospective mount set up for port side . Your motor stows to the starboard side. Am I seeing this wrong??
I used the shaft mount bracket and I have it on the right side of the shaft... and my TM stows to the port side. So when stowed, the TM nose cone faces outward and transducer is on top.
Does anyone know if I have to run a separate power cable for the livescope or can I use the same cable running my 93sv. I’m using a 8awg cable from the battery to the 93sv. Thanks in advance.
Yes your black box does need its own power source. I would run 2 of those cables from the battery and run one to the graph and one to your black box
Why didn't you just tap off the backside of the trolling motor power plug for your power to the black box?
That would have probably worked just fine - but from all I've ready about LiveScope, people seem to think it does best with a direct line straight back to the battery. Plus, I don't know what gauge wire was ran to the trolling motor by the factory, and if I run it to the battery myself, I at least know it's a big enough gauge wire to deliver enough power.
@@Everydayfishing That makes perfect sense. Thank you.
@Cooperman Your right , if it's 24v thats too much power.
What size screws did you use to mount the black box in your rod locker?
Thanks
Question 🙋 so i have a kayak with a 100 amp battery for my trolling motor xi3 and a 20 amp battery for my 106sv do you think i can plug my black box to my 100 amp trolling motor battery and keep my 106sv on the 20 amp? Reason i want to split the power is i dont wanna have to buy another 30to 40 amp battery do you think i may run into problems if i split the power of the black box and fish finder, hopefully i made sense thanks.
I don't think using different power sources for black box/graph is an issue, but where you might have problems is if you connect either to a trolling motor battery. Usually people get interference on the graph when it's connected to a trolling motor battery, so I would assume that also stands for connecting a black box to it. Rather than get a third battery, could you maybe just get a bigger second battery to power your electronics?
Quick question, does the cable coming from the black box to the screen also power it? Or does the screen require its own power cable as well plugged in? So if its only dedicated for livescope the screen will have one or 2 cords connected to the back?
The Garmin unit and the black box both require dedicated power. The cable that connects the black box to the unit is for data transfer only… so yeah, need to supply power to each
Been thinking about getting one don’t know which one to get Lawrence active target or Garmin live scope
I think the Garmin LVS34 looks more clear than the Lowrance AT2… Garmin has better target separation. Look up some comparison videos RUclips. I’m very happy I went with Garmin!
I just got mine I’m only on a 10’ Bass Raider. Stupid question, do I still need my UHD56 transducer along with the livescope transducer?
No you don’t need it - I actually sold mine. You could keep it in case you ever want to use down imaging… but if your graph only has one transducer input, you’ll need to unplug the LiveScope to plug in the UHD56
@@Everydayfishing ahh I gotcha, thanks!
Curious why you didn't use the power switch that was already on the boat?
The power switch already installed shuts off power to everything... I wanted to be able to only shut off the LVS34 Black Box. That's the only reason I added the second switch.
Are you not planning on using perspective mode? It appears that with this method of mounting there will not be enough play in the cable to change it to perspective mode
Yeah good point - to be honest I haven't taken it out of forward mode! It's just so useful... but yes if I do switch modes, I'll probably cut some of that tape and give it more slack.
Nice install but I’d seriously consider adding another battery. You have way too much off of the cranking battery. If you can I’d isolate your electronics to that battery and keep minimal devices on your cranking battery. I know a few guys that needed a job for this reason. Otherwise great install.
What Garmin unit do are you using? Did you need to update the Garmin so it would recognize the live plus?
This is the 106SV - I did not have to do an update for it to see the LiveScope Plus... but Garmin recommends that you run the latest update when installing. It did work right out of the box for me though.
Thanks for reply and great vid. That’s great to hear as I just purchased the same stuff.
Did the transducer come with that trollling motto shaft bracket?
Yes it does!
Hoping maybe my unit was a fluke, but my black box arrived broken… hopefully garmin customer service is good
Dang that stinks… does it power on? Does your graph recognize it at all?
Great video. May I ask what brand/type double graph holder you're using? I have Lawrence HDS7 up front that I'd like next to the Garmin
Thanks! The mount is the Hennessey Outdoor Electronics Dual Mount - I’ve been very happy with it
hennesseyoutdoorelectronics.com/collections/hennessey-outdoor-products/products/hoe-universal-duel-mount
@@Everydayfishing I want to thank you again for your video. I purchased a LVS32 Transducer and GLS 10 Sonar Sonar Black box from BassPro. The sales deal came with free installation. But after talking to the service department there they said they would need to install wiring and battery shut off switch along with connectors for a extra charge. It was about $400.00 I knew immediately that I can install myself. They were going to charge me all that for screwing in the black box and connecting it to a 8 AWG wire to battery. Thank God I have tools and enough knowledge to do it myself. Your video just confirmed everything for me. Thank you again.
@@rickgarza1041 Heck yeah - you can definitely do it yourself! Plus you get a good working knowledge of how it's all connected and it helps with any troubleshooting you might need to do in the future.
Can you connect both a side view sonar transducer and the live scope to same monitor?
It just depends on the head unit you get… you’ll need a higher end model with 2 transducer inputs… most like my 106sv only have one
Does it reqly make a difference if you use 8 or 10 AWG wire
All depends on how far your run is… the instructions explain what gauge is needed for certain distances. But I figure it never hurts to have higher gauge
How do you still like the system would you recommend it or is there a newer version out today. Ty
The LVS34 is Garmin's newest livescope model - I would absolutely recommend it. I catch fish every time out because I spotted brush, rocks, or bait that I'd have never seen without it.
What kind of red switches are those that you were using in battery compartment?
Here is the link to the one I used:
a.co/d/8dSOoOj
@@Everydayfishing awesome tha k you for the knowledge and great video
Is it that hard to catch a fish or we just like new expensive electronics ?
Don’t bash it until you try it… forward facing sonar helps find structure, brush, etc. as well. Doesn’t catch them for you though! 😂
@Everydayfishing 😆 🤣 😂 I never understood nothing going on those graphs so I just used mines for GPS on my boat.
What kind of 8 gauge are you using?
What's the unit model number are you using
Is that your cranking battery you have it hooked up to?
Yes - power is run directly from cranking battery to black box. With that switch in between to cut power if needed
How did you supply power to your Garmin fish finder? Can you hook it to the same power cord from the battery or will that cause interference with the black box? I haven’t started my install yet. I have a older nitro 750 and I’m keeping my helix seven on the front and then hooking a Garmin 1022 strictly for live scope.
My Garmin unit power is connected to the power bank under my front panel. You could run power directly back to the battery if you didn’t have that option, but I just didn’t need to go that far
@@Everydayfishing Thanks, I don’t know what’s behind the panel yet, hopefully it have something simple to hook into.
One other question where did you get your eight gauge white wire? I went to Lowe’s. They didn’t have nothing but separate wires. I’d love to be able to just run one wire. Thanks.
@@dfort5203 I found mine on Amazon - you can search for "marine duplex wire" and you should be able to find some. I used Ancor brand on mine.
So did you have to run power from the graph also? The directions only show power from the black box to the battery and then the network cable from the black box to the graph.
Greta video by the way!
is the graph powered separately or through the black box?
Yes graph has a separate power supply - mine runs back to the fuse box inside the drivers console but you can also run it straight back to the battery.
Dos preguntas: no hará interferencias con el motor eléctrico? Y la segunda, si el motor se mueve, con el GPS, cambiará la dirección del objetivo, no crees? Muy buen vídeo, enhorabuena.
It will not interfere with the motor. And yes it will swing around as you turn your trolling motor. You need a turret if you want to have the transducer independent of the trolling motor.
I'm trying to do mine . Why not use your existing switch ? Will that not work ?
The existing switch cuts all battery power to the boat… so that would work if that’s what you want. I wanted to be able to cut power to just the black box in case I didn’t need the LiveScope or needed to conserve.
Thank you !
What battery do you use for the live scope
I ran it to my starting battery - it’s a group 31 AGM. No problems running it and my graphs for a full 8-10 hour day
I have a 2021 Z18 with a helix 7 on the bow. Just curious if you have a boat cover, if the cover fits over things well or if it’s a little too high with that mount? Just trying to figure out what mount I want to get but I like the looks of that one if it’ll fit under my cover, although I don’t use the cover much
I don't actually have a cover - my boat stays in the garage so I never ordered one. I imagine this mount would stick up too high though. You can always order a cover and take it somewhere to have it altered... I know a lot of people do that for bigger trolling motors.
Just ordered mine last night, found one in stock.. did you figure out if the inline switch is needed for sure or not?
I am pretty sure that turning the graph off or putting it to sleep does cut the power to the black box. My black box light goes out when the graph is off. So an in-line shut off is probably not necessary.
@@Everydayfishing Very nice!, Tight lines bud!
Can I keep my 2d hooked up with the live scope
Yes you can depending on which graph you are using... you'll need one that can connect to both sources. I've never ran both at once - you also might get interference.
I watched your video and see you installed the unit in a Nitro z18. I have a Z7, same boat, just a little older. How many feet of the 8/2 flat wire did you use?
I bought a roll of 25 feet and probably used about 20 feet of it… but my black box is also up close to the front of my boat.
What gauge wire did you use?
Fuse should be at the battery.
Unless your battery is within 6 feet of your black box, it’s pretty difficult to have it right next to the battery. Instructions specifically say to leave the fuse provided by the factory
Do you have to disconnect the black box/LVS34 when you pull the transducer out to change spots ?
No you don't - when I change spots, I use the "sleep" feature on the Garmin graph, and this stops the transducer. I don't think I needed the extra battery disconnect switch that I installed - it does appear that all power is cut off to the black box when the Garmin unit is asleep or off.
What size fuse does it call for?
Instructions call for a 7.5A fuse
@@Everydayfishing thanks
Did you have to run a separate power wire from your chart plotter?
Yes I ran the power for the graph up under my console and connected it to the fuse panel there.
Nice ....is it worth the money
Absolutely… it’s incredible. First time out I was able to clearly see different kinds of structure, identify fish, make casts to them and catch fish. I’m super impressed
@@Everydayfishing awesome.....as soon as the lvs 34 is back in stock I will order.....,
too close to the trolling motor head?
Pretty sure ur graph dictates power to black box
I believe you are correct - my black box does appear to go completely dark when I turn off the graph
@@Everydayfishing 1 question, 1 thought. Where did you find the switch? Maybe the switch will stop battery charging from back feeding box and plotter. Maybe not. Again where can I find the switch? Thanks nice video.