Skid Row: Sebastian Bach's Feud with Jon Bon Jovi
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2022
- Skid Row Frontman Sebastian Bach's Feud with Bon Jovi
The History of Skid Row
• Skid Row: The Rise & F...
SIGN UP for 10 of the Craziest Stories in Rock N' Roll [Secret Playlist]: bit.ly/3vVPAEF
Check out our Top 25 Favourite Albums Here
rockandrolltruestories.com/
Have a video request or a topic you'd like to see us cover? Fill out our google form!
bit.ly/3stnXlN
----CONNECT ON SOCIAL----
Instagram: / rocknrolltruestories
Facebook: / rnrtruestories
Twitter: / rocktruestories
Blog: www.rockandrolltruestories.com
#skidrow #sebastianbach #bonjovi #axlrose
I cite my sources and they may differ than other people's accounts, so I don't guarantee the actual accuracy of my videos.
We had previously covered the detailed history of Skid Row, the link is down below. But today, we want to talk about the Skid Row Bon Jovi Feud that escalated with punches being thrown with bands both bands touring together. That’s what we’ll explore in today’s video.
Skid Row guitarist Dave Snake Sabo would grow up in New Jersey alongside Jon Bon Jovi. Both of them had aspirations of being rockstars with both of them promising to help the other one out if either of them got famous.
Skid Row, which formed in 1986 was a few years younger than Bon Jovi who had already established themselves as one of the biggest rock bands on the planet thanks to the success of their third record Slippery When Wet, which came out the same year. Skid Row would be made up of frontman Sebastian Bach, guitarist Dave Snake Sabo, bassist Rachel Bolan and drumm Rob Affuso. The band would be managed by Doc Mcghee who also managed Bon Jovi. Ahead of the band signing with Atlantic Records, Jon Bon Jovi and RItchie Sambota would own a publishing company called Underground who convinced Skid Row to sign with them. As a result the Bon Jovi pair would own a lionshare of Skid Row’s publishing. Skid Row would release their debut album, which was self titled in 1989 and it would be a massive success moving over 5 million copies thanks to singles 18 and Life, and I remember You. As part of the promotion for the album Skid Row would open for Bon Jovi as part of their New Jersey Tour the same year.
That publishing deal the band signed with Jon and Ritchie became a sour point for frontman Sebastian Bach. Bach would tell a French TV outlet "Nobody thought that we would become a big band. That happens all the time in the music industry. Jon was like, 'We'll take you on tour, but if you guys make it big,' then he gets a cut of it," Bach explained. "So I was bitter about that for awhile."
But it would be another event that created a rivalry between the groups. According to Bach’s book 18 and Life it was when Skid Row’s merchandise started to outsell the headliner that Jon took exception with him recalling in his book that he was summoned into a room by the bon jovi frontman writing "he stared me down and said the words, ‘I’ll f-ing own you.’ ” Bach would also claim that during the tail end of their tours the band’s would play pranks on one another. Ahead of Skid Row’s set in Kentukcy, Bon Jovi’s entourage soaked Bach Bach who was furious went up on stagehand slammed Bon Jovi.. Skid Row’s crew responded by throwing a carton of eggs at Bon Jovi’s crew.
It was as Skid Row walked off stage that Jon and Bon Jovi’s crew were waiting for him with Bach writing
“We saw about 60 people coming toward us,” Leading the pack was Jon Bon Jovi himself. Flanking him, side to side, was his dad and his brother Tony. Behind them was the full Bon Jovi road crew.”
Jon Bon Jovi would throw a punch at Bach, that missed. Bon Jovi’s entourage would throw back into the dressing room and throw him up against the wall
“Bon Jovi Senior pointed in my face as I was held against the wall,” Bach writes. “He said, ‘I’ll (blanking) kill you,’ or something like that.”
Bach would claim to loudersound that he received congratulatory calls from Lars Ulrich of Metallica and Axl Rose of Guns N’ Roses for his actions. But for his bandmates, it put them in a difficult position with Sabo telling Loudersound “Jon had freaked out because he thought Sebastian had called him an expletive But the whole thing was a misunderstanding, and because my singer hadn’t done anything wrong I had to defend him amid all this mud-slinging.”
Sabo for his part would also have a strained relationship with Bon Jovi for several years. It would finally be healed when the pair attended the funeral of a mutual friend.
Both Jon and Ritchie would eventually relax their rights to Skid Row’s publishing under the condition that Bach sign a gag order according to Loudersound. It was years later either in the late 2000’s or 2010’s when Sebastian Bach, who was no longer in Skid Row was touring with Guns N’ Roses and having dinner with frontman Axl Rose at a restaurant in London that he mended fences with Jon. 
Видеоклипы
Bon Jovi or Skid Row?
Skid Row
Skid Row for me
Motorhead!
What was Lemmy doing there?
Looking uncomfortable apparently
Bon Jovi always
Bon Jovi
I remember seeing seb Bach on Gilmore girls and I thought, “that guy would make a great 80s hair metal frontman” and then found out he was a great 80s hairmetal frontman.
I loved Gil. ❤😂
The greatest maybe
Skid Row. Me and my friends were blown away when Slave to the Grind came out.
The story I know is that Jon and Dave Sabo were friends from a very young age. They promised each other that whoever makes it first in the music industry, will help the other.
Yeah and my ex wife promised to stay in sickness and in health, but now the only thing she keeps around is the fruits of my labor whilst withholding those of my loins. Promises are for the birds.
@@scottmatznick3140 Relationship anger is nothing new. You must see a therapist.
@@scottmatznick3140 wow, so sorry for that 😢...hope you work it out!
@@scottmatznick3140 😂😂😬🤦
@@scottmatznick3140 she sounds like a horse milker
This had a good ending.
So many lose sight of the fact that rock is supposed to be fun.
It's a business at those heights.
People get jaded, form unhealthy attitudes and are surrounded by leeches and yes men.
I am glad it had a good ending. Was sorta tapping my toe, waiting, lol...
Axl and Jon drinking wine together is funny to me. 🍷
All these glam metal bands hate Bon Jovi's music but they love hanging with the band members.
@@gars129 nobody hates the guys supplying drugs bruh.
Sebastian was truly gorgeous when he was in his twenties. He also had a clear, powerful voice that was second to none. I think he has spent the past couple of decades partying too hard and it has negatively affected his health. Btw, what ever happened to his sons London and Paris?
Scotti Hill…. Literally the nicest musician I’ve ever met. He was cool. I got an autograph. Diddnt ask for a picture. But instead I caught him off guard by asking him what gauge strings he used 😂
Sebastian Bach's book 18& Life is so good there are so many good stories about his life.I ,like millions of other girls at that time,was in love with him when they came out in '89.I was 16 then.Would definitely see Sebastian on tour if he comes round NJ again.
Wasn't a huge Skid Row fan but got to see them live back in their prime as openers for other bands and will readily admit they were fun live. Tons of energy/cocaine.
Fun fact: Bach's father David Bierk was a prominent Toronto visual artist. He did the cover for Slave.
Skid Row ROCKS ABOVE 💙 😎
0:48 what a flawless transition :D
Bach lived near my brother in Lincroft NJ. When my nephews were little they went to David Bryan’s twins birthday parties. Oldest Bon Jovi son played pop Warner football with them too.
Wooohhhh!!! Cool!!!
As for me, everything is simple and clear. Thank you very much for
Imagine going into a restaurant and seeing Bach and Axel eating dinner and you look over and Bon Jovi is sitting in the corner. Wtf?
Yeah it might have been something if you liked their music and or it was 30 years ago 🙄😂😂😂
@@floydsemlow8253 shhh 🤫
Sounds like something out of the movie Rockstar
Considering Axl and Jon Bon Jovi's relationship, it even sounds ridiculous.
Unfortunately, greed, egos and competition get in the way at times. But they both mended fences and that's good.
My spouse is a cop. He was called to a guy kicking the window out of a limousine. When he got to the scene he had to assist the guy out of the car. It was Jon Bon Jovi who then thanked him and then handed the limo driver a wad of bills.
acab
Was he locked inside?
Bon Jovi has always baffled me. They are hands down one of the most insipid bands ever yet they have been incredibly successful.
The majority of their fans are women. Jon was exceptionally good looking and they made very catchy rock/pop songs.
They appealed to chicks. Also came out at that weird time in the late eighties.
@@samanthab1923 except they came out in the early 80’s🙈
@@WinterInTheForest
The age old story....
My girlfriend loved Bon Jovi, ergo...I had to listen to them when she partied... especially around her other friends.
I was an old school metalhead.
The things you do for love...I do miss my hair though.
@@nursinghomefire4741 Yeah but no one I knew listened to them. My brother had some new girl he was dating that liked Slippery When Wet 1986. We laughed at all those hair bands lol
Great Story , 🤘🤘🤘
I bet before they fought one of them said don't touch the hair 😆
They said, my body guards can beat up your bodyguards. But really Sebastian is a big dude and could most likely beat Jon’s ass
Great video.
Bon Bon throwing punches is probably a funny sight. I bet it’s more like scratches and hair pulling
LOL in Spanish there is a slang word to it "cachetazo" every time when comes from a girl,woman or gay man hahaha
If I recall this story correctly, I *think* my mother went to see them on the NJ tour. She was and is to this day a huge fan of both bands. She *claimed* that during Bon Jovi’s set, Bach ran across the stage in either his drawers or completely naked (can’t recall which), which made John like visibly angry, though he didn’t address it on stage. My takeaway from her story was always like, wow, John has no sense of humor. But it makes more sense for something like that to have happened and been received poorly if the bands already hated each other.
It's Sabo with a long a, and both bands are great. I used to think it was pronounced the other way, also, until I saw Dave being interviewed and said:"It's Sabo, with a long a."
1:30 disgusted Lemmy
lol good one
Noticed that too.
I've saw both bands in the late '80s and early 90s and they are both very impressive but I was a bigger fan of skid row because they are so much heavier with Sebastian of course
You give love a bad name but I remember you 😭 🤘 😆
Is RnRTS going through puberty? I heard his voice change a few times.
Good video.
I was at Texxas Jam. Bon Jovi got booed.
The fight nobody wins
Skid Row has a tiny amount of albums in comparison but theyre so much better than anything Bon Jovi has ever made lol
A fan of skid row here but either you stopped listening to bon Jovi post 1986 or you are lying. They stood the test of time and continued to make impeccable music for the next 30+years whereas skid doesn't exist anymore literally.
And I will tell you that the last Bon Jovi good album is from 1995! Then the rest is a s***
apples & bowling balls
The reason why glam died was not the music but the people that made the music. The listeners got fed up and turned to bands to hear a song without all the bullshit around the musicians.
No original S W W Album cover? 🌊🍈🍈
I've toured and partied hard with Bas, he is so f...n cool and fun but also the most spoiled brat ever.
Midnight...........cat fight.............meow........
I strongly dislike Bon Jovi (And I'm from New Jersey!) but I find it hard to believe Jon Bon Jovi would "eye some one up" and say "I'll F'N own you". Idk why lol
I can’t stand that dude or his terrible music either 🤢, but being and Italian from Jersey, I bet there’s an interesting backstory there somewhere. I’m sure he had a scrap or two coming up, especially having all that hair 😁
I think the problem I'm having here is I'm not from the '80s. My mother listened to bon Jovi so so did I. I've technically heard of skid row but I haven't heard any of their music. So I'm biased towards Jon.
Bach was on Gilmore girls right? Why’d he do that? Not complaining, loved him in the show, just never knew why he was casted.
He was in the trailer park boys too
Who was the mutual friend whose funeral they went to?
Bach for the win!!! Bon phony suuuuuuuucks🤘
All Bach had to do is dial back the production of shirts and they could have opened for Bon Jovi for years and aided to each other's songwriting, possibly staving the wave of grunge, think about that. Also consider this, Skid Row's bass player is the primary songwriter and hair metal's formula is guitar hero and vocalist that can carry. In Skid Row, Bach is the third most important member, thus; all his bandmates hated him in spite of his dumb ass antics. Moral of the story, if you make it in the music business, appreciate the opportunity and what you got that so many clamor for.
Or Jon could have accepted the fact that he needed to step up his game because the opener was out performing him.
Staving the wave of grunge? Are you serious? lmao
@@Spooky_515 Could have happened with Teen Spirit. Via con dios.
@@Spooky_515 we couldn’t have been that lucky
Sabo is pronounced "Say-Bow"
The New Jersey Mob,😁😁😁😁
Damn human beings what can I say am I right🤪
Sebastian Bach has better songs but Jon Bon Jovi is a better person in the real world
Yeah, my impression of Baz (including his bio) is that the guy is a total a-hole. Very talented for sure but an extremely abbrasive personality.
I don't really care who may have started it. All I know is Sebastian Bach could kick Jon Bon Jovi's ass, plus Skid Row is just a more kick-ass band. Their album Slave To The Grind is proof.
Yet Jon made TONS more money and still does.
They would both fight like little girls, scratching and slapping and pulling each others hair.
Back in the day I like Skid Row WAY better but since Bach been gone they stink
Skid Row was heavy hair metal band while Bon Jovi was a KISS style rock band ( obviously KISS is better). But we didn't play much Bon Jovi back then it was too simple no heavy riffs.
Jon might have been upset that Skid Row didn't need help writing sond but he did. Jon had outside help and Bach was a better live vocalist.
That is total BS. Back in the 80's and 90's, nobody was a better live vocalist than JBJ. Also, Sebastian co wrote a total of 4 songs on the 1st 2 records combined. Most were written by Sabo and Bolan. Desmond Child co-wrote 4 songs on both Slippery and New Jersey. There has been 1 song on any Bon Jovi album that Jon Bon Jovi didn't at least co-write, and that was their 1st album.
@@joviacdan I agree about about Bach and the songwritng but the band didn't bring in other writers for their music. JBJ did bring in outside help. As far as JBJ being a better live vocalist in the 80s than Bach we will just have to disagree.
@@SigSon319 Eh, I don't put much into that. Lots of bands did (and still do) that. JBJ can't sing for shit now, but if you watch any of the bands shows from 1989-1996, he sounded phenomenal. As for the whole feud between the two, JBJ has always been a shrewd business man. But think about it. He helped get the band signed and brought them on what was the biggest arena tour of the year. I only got into Skid Row because I saw them open for Bon Jovi. As for SB's claims that their merchandise was outselling Bon Jovi's, that's just a flat out lie. Bon Jovi set records on that tour for merchandise sales. Sebastian is remembering what he wants to.
I've never been sure if having long hair in your 50s is a sign of a true rock star or a cringe old man.
As a guy in his fifties I think its sad and cringe.
@@davidmitchell6873 I take it you’re bald ?💁
Not bald just not clinging to a time that's gone. Nothing sadder than older people trying to be something they no longer are. Sorry if I hit a nerve.
Thank you to gars129 , David mitchell and Nursing home fire . I totally agree with gars129`s original comment and had to see what others were saying on this topic . I laughed so much at the conversation that followed . I too am in my fifties , and this conversation really made my day , Thank you .
It is neither.
15 bottles of red wine 🍷? TOTAL BS. 😉
Bovine Joni sux
Sebastian Bach is so cringe..😆
Much of this is heresy or simply made up. The whole Skids merchandise outselling Jovi is crap. The Bon Jovi merchandise from that tour set a record at the time. No truth to that.
The royalty rights are correct. Jon and Richie both got cuts but Richie got out as he didn't want or need the money. Jon's a business man. He took a risk on something, invested, and it paid off.
Why did you use a young picture for bon Jovi and an oldman Sebastian picture makes him look like he's way uglier or something
You must have to much time on your hands.
There is something profoundly disturbing and disgusting about Bach in general
I hate both bands but Bach is pretty creepy.
He started off as a wedding singer and is Canadian. Double douchery.
I love Skid Row, but the guy is a complete arsehole. It got to the point his own band sacrificed their popularity, knowing they couldn't replace him and kicked him out anyway, because they couldn't tolerate him.
I really don't like Bon Jovi..Skid Row Is the opposite
Man, these girls fight like cats.
Lol id pay decent money to watch these two old chicks have a boxing match
Are you still mad that Joe Biden made up that story about you and running you off with the chain?
@@ctrockstar7168 You cant believe anything that man says...... he lied on me
It must be said that Bach is one of the most annoying man on planet earth.
Bcoz his voice, his look, and people's like him
My God hav u not,n better to up,load,, this News is bout 30,,year,s OLD,,,BS
Bon Jovi went woke and is now a joke due to his poor singing. What a disappointment.
Both are horrible!
All these egos bring to mind when Eddie Van Halen would talk about LSD, or Lead Singer’s Disease. 😂