The Ultimate Guide to Freyr (Build Order & Analysis)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- 0:13 Freyr Overview
2:09 Build Order & Strategy
17:41 Archaic Age Overview
18:34 Classical Age Overview
23:46 Heroic Age Overview
28:34 Mythic Age Overview
32:45 Conclusion Thoughts & Outro
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0:13 Freyr Overview
2:09 Build Order & Strategy
17:41 Archaic Age Overview
18:34 Classical Age Overview
23:46 Heroic Age Overview
28:34 Mythic Age Overview
32:45 Conclusion Thoughts & Outro
Thank you so much!
HELLO MAGIC!!! Excellent videos, you are getting clearer, entertaining and informative.
I would like to suggest something
In many of my games, about 80% of the time, I manage to control both the map and my army, which is reflected in the game's timeline at the end of the game. However, despite this great advantage, he ended up losing most of the matches.
I would like to suggest a video focused on full pressure strategies. Specifically, how to maintain pressure throughout the game and what decisions to make in the following scenarios:
--When pressure is effective: How to take advantage of that advantage and ensure victory?
--When pressure doesn't work: What adjustments can be made to avoid losing control and turning the game around?
"It would be great to see an analysis of how to handle both scenarios to improve decision making in these situations."
I've watched your games and most of them are based on defense and counterattacks, so I know you could offer some excellent insight from a fully aggressive playstyle perspective.
Excellent idea, thanks! I’ll probably do a deep dive and talk about these things on replay reviews
The best takeaway from this video is your attitude in imo, focusing on becoming better, and finding your own playstyle. Such a good attitude Magic, much respect :D
Thanks man!
I tried to follow the general idea and the build order of this guide and managed to win my first ever MP game with it. Thank you Magic.
Amazing!! Happy to hear!
You are like Jesus (but better) for new players. Picked up Gaya and played my first three games in ranked and won two of them! All thank's to you and your easy to follow guides. I'll try Freyr tommorow.
Oh my gods, this is the best and most detailled guide ive ever seen. Thank you so much for that (:
Hope you make more guides like this (:
Happy to hear you liked it!
I use the asguardian hill fort to build 1 or 2 Huskarls and scout the map that way. Granted i play much more defensive, and prefer to rush heroic for a Jarl + Draugr army comp. Also asguardian bastion counts as your hill fort so you can rush age 4 a little faster, that + the 50% discounted techs add up for a very strong and early Inferno timing if you managed to survive early game.
If your opponent survived, remember Freyr ballistas get +30% dmg, +10% HP +10% speed with all freyr bonuses. Add Engineers and you've got yourself a terrifying backline pierce dmg unit, something the norse aren't "supposed" to have. Grab Feast for healing around Hill forts and you can go for attrition wars, or send a few escorted rams (turn vills to zerks ! late game it's fine) to raid on other fronts.
Nice write through!
Great video! I love the emphasis on sacrificing a little efficiency for flexibility. I always felt that AoE4 was really heavy on hyper specific-top efficiency builds but AoM feels WAY better for responding to what your opponent is doing. I think it adds a lot of depth of mastery and I really appreciate your reasoning for different choices you could make.
Great stuff!
Thanks!
Feasts of renown is slept on I think. 1f/s trickle for every tc and fort. That is pretty nuts.
its completely reasonable to expect to have 2 TC and 2 hill forts early into Heroic age - especially if you recast Asguardian bastion. 1f/s is better than a farmer, so you are basically adding 5 farmers for 100g and 18 favor. thats unbelievable value even 1 tc and 1 hill fort is worth it - not to mention the health regen
@@MidnightSwamiNZ yeh. Its insanely good late game
Agreed!
Great guide. Ur decision making opinion is the best source of study 🙏🏻 personally I use this B.O. since the beggining. IMO its a so solid god… hope pros develop the meta soon hehe
amazing video again, loving a lot when you explain the background of the units, techs and those overviews else. It's nice as well to add a quick game to show a little more in order to do it more visual
Glad you liked it!
Probably just second nature to you but I don't think garrisoning the inital ox cart to get it to gold faster saves anything. It's gonna get to the gold mine just walking before your dwarf even spawns, let alone before the dwarf is ready to drop off.
Haha yeah good point, I think it’s just second nature to me at this point but good call!
Good catch 😄 it's still a good skill to practice for archer micro in and out of TCs/Fortresses when the opponent dives you though
Yeah plus technically it's inefficient to multibuild a second one with multiple vils if you want to nitpick it. Just send the first cart to food and make a second at gold. If you really need a little more gold just make a cart with one of the food vils and then send it to the gold mine. It will arrive way before the first 10 gold is collected.
The real underrated good in aom...and of course really nice video like always.
Thanks!
Would love a vid on 1) mid-late game and becoming quicker at it and 2) defending a rush (norse, kronos, oranos)
I’ll show this through live gameplay videos and deep dives which I’m going to start doing soon
As a norse player, all I've learned is from your channel, I got used with villagers dance between dwarfs and common gatherers with your Odin's build. Is by far the most difficult civilization, I always forget to change between dwarfs and villagers, I had to turn off auto queue at the start of the game or on a new TC, it helped alot.
Glad to hear, thank you!
Freyr and Ra are my two favorite gods, so thanks for making this
I’m working on something new for Ra now too, hope to have that to you soon
I also love the fact that hel's myht buffs goes to the rock giant as well. As always, thanks a lot for the video.
Glad you enjoyed!
2:47 - "So now let's get started; but before I get started..." 🤣 I'm just teasing; this is an amazing video, I just found that part a little funny 😄. Great job! Even though this was unscripted, you're still very organised with your thoughts, and you conveyed your points really clearly! You're very good at talking off the cuff!
Yeah I heard there’s a ton of ads RUclips plays but i just have everything on default I don’t decide when the ads play and stuff, sorry haha
@@IamMagicAOM Oh I wasn't referring to ads; check out what you say at the timestamp 😄
Very positive and motivaing video.
Thanks; cant wait to try this out!
One big thing i think you forgot to mention about Hel vs. Vidar for mythic age:
Hel's tech that increases giants' HP.....also gives the rock giant 40% more HP!
So if you did go for Egir, hel will let you have some truly insane myth siege assuming you can get enough favor.
Yeah that’s true!
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I think there's a cool synergy too with valkerie and fafnir because of the valkeries healing. The one real downside of fafnir is that it gives gold when it dies so if you can prevent it from dying by healing it and get a couple going you can have a super strong army
yeah that could be a cool idea!
Dude I freaking love your videos. I'm addicted❤
Happy to hear that!
From testing fury of the fallen berserks absolutely smoke all of their counters. Axemen, hypaspists, archers if they can get on top of them. I really believe that tech is super op in the lategame
Agreed!
Berserk spam and 1 favor for death for make myth units, and spam iced fortress after build a wonder for only 10 favor and 45 secs to cast the god power.
Very informational and helpful, thanks!
Very welcome!
I can never resist picking Ullr in classical age, and always regret it when the entire map remains black 😅
Thank you very much. I was looking for that. I like freyr but as a new player to aom it feelt hard to grasp how to play him.
Simple build for casuals? Yes! Thank you
Hope you enjoy!
Great video and great work Magic, thanks a lot, hope to see some ranked Freyr gameplay ! Take care :)
On its way!
Only reason I like Ullr more cause you legit get free hill forts and once you get the upgrade you can have so many. Plus it can be quite good on offense just as it is on defense. Getting ready to really hit the enemy base use that power just a bit outside of it, you now got siege which can easily go for buildings, plus if your army needs to pull back your able to just poke enemy troops with arrows. Valkyrie is one of my favorite units to cause healing is just so good on its own. I think either age 2 god is very viable and strong.
Agreed!
Another banger of a video!
Hell yes. THE GOD SPOTLIGHT I DESIRED
Yo the mic quality jump, sounds great!
Thanks!
Looks nice and easy! I steal :)
Love you suppe
YAY! I was waiting for this one. Norse for the win. Can you put the build order excel chart during the explanation in the top right of the screen instead? That way we can see your queue for technologies units etc.
Sure, good idea!
One thing I don’t see many do but I love doing which has one more just as many if not mor games as this god is to play him aggressively and fight in classic with rams too. And if I really have map control take a very aggressive second tc on their side and you bursti as an aggressive unit with my army to really get them to resign. I have yet to see a build order for playing him aggressive and map control so I just use my own. I think he is a sneaky powerful god that people are still learning. Which has allowed me to get a lot of wins with him.
Ty
epic to see a Freyr guide as a Freyr main. I find my production buildings get clogged with the extended research time (when I go to get Medium Cavalry or Medium infantry) and this puts me behind in army count - the infantry upgrades you can do in the asguardian bastion to counteract this, I was really surprised you dismissed Ydalir - I thought that early rams were great as player often spam archers to deal with norse effectively. Rams soak fire and force issues - particularly with norse infantry having weak pierce armor its hard to push into fortified buildings
You could be right, i just think they’re a bit expensive for classical so unless you’re already in a nice position it might be tough to get them to work, I’ll try it a little more and see
Also nice if your games go long, Ydalir's other effect isn't just for your Rams. It makes training any fortress unit or researching any fortress tech 20% faster. In the late game you can spam Huskarls ridiculously fast and even just being able to research an infantry upgrade faster to offset the Freyr downside is pretty nice.
@@Kestral287 I have really struggled to find when to use Huskarls? I think I have always resorted to raiding cav when i am either raiding or defending vs ranged - when are you actually using them over cavalry?
@tylermb3766 Early game, if I'm struggling with food them being wood based is nice - makes it easier to deploy them alongside Hersirs if you need more units for example. They're also half the gold of a Jarl which is nice, though obviously pretty close to a Raider. But mostly, honestly, if you're Ullr you just have the Hill Fort laying around, might as well have it make something.
Late game, I'm just spamming them off forward (Spectral) Hill Forts. They come out so fast and are relatively cheap so you almost consider them a trash unit - except they still have Freyr's 10% damage buff and are pretty resilient to buildings when you're attacking. And again, most importantly I think - you want lots of Hill Forts around regardless due to Ullr but also if you go Aegir (and my default preference is Ullr-Aegir-Hel) fighting close to Hill Forts is nice due to the extra healing and also every one is free food, and you might as well have them doing something.
Granted I'm by no means an expert. All of this could be stupid but getting value out of your free early game production building feels nice.
Looks great! How feasible do you think a "fast mythical" strategy would work for TGs or maps like Arena? With Ullr you get a free Hill Fort so that enables it. However I don't think norse has any good ways of capitalizing on a "fast mythical" time since there are no strong out of the gate (human) units that becomes available then to enable it (like in AoE Hand Cannonner/Bombard Cannon). Ballista would be your best bet I guess.
Alternatively, I wonder if Freyr can be turned into a hyper agressive god as you briefly mentioned. The fact that all your upgrades are discounted but takes longer means you could spend the extra res on more army, then you should always have a numbers advantage. Now it all boils down to how much a numerical advantage can hold up against a tech advantage, it would be nice to do some playtesting on i.e. how many unupgraded TA are needed to fight against a similar cost of FU TA (since you would be waiting for your blacksmith/infantry upgrades to complete while they already have them). Depending on the math it could be more or less advantageous to play an all-in Classical Freyr where you try to zerg your opponent with the extra units you should have?
By the way, as an AoE and RTS veteran I'm learning a lot from you as I try to get back into AoM, thanks!
Thanks man, yeah classical freyr might be a sick option, I’m still experimenting with that
Im wondering about the last mythic age upgrade on Vidar. It says berserks get 15% more damage when a military unit dies nearby and then it says in paranthesis "stacks". So potentially then your serkes can get really really high bursts of damage depending on how long the effect lasts and what the range of the effect is. Imagine a huge swarm of serks just rushing and every time one dies, they all just get +15%. If it decays over a second then you can probably achieve numbers close to 100% bonus damage.
Yeah it’s really good
Hello !
Thanks for videos it is so good for learning.
I had a question on a previous one the hotkeys video:
- You're explaining that a hotkey that allow to select all military buildings matters a lot and I strongly agree on it.
Unfortunately I don't find it on the hotkeys list, can you elaborate a little bit on how to fix this specific hotkey ? Sorry for taking time !
Hey, if you go to settings and then hotkey then in the search button type “select all” you should be able to see it as “select all land military” I also did a video about retold settings, it was the second video I did, have a look there and I show you step by step how I do it. Hope that helps!
I think if they added different rally points for dwarfes and villagers (like AOE fishing ships and millitary ships) it would relax norse players alot.
For sure yeah
No wonder I couldn't get the Freyr build order down on my own. Always felt late and with no res XD
Yeah it’s a tough god for sure
Hey Magic, great content as aways!
One thing I have noticed is that you care way too much about saying the names correctly, sometimes you cut the flow of what you are explaining to correct yourself and I don't think the people trying to get better at the game care much about that. Amazing video nonetheless, been waiting for a Freyr guide from you since the start and was not disappointed!
Haha you’re right! I’ll actually just try to practice the pronunciation ahead of time so I don’t do that going forward !
Hi Magic, could you make a video of how to win against each god(what god counters another god), or maybe their weakest points to take advantage of?
Sure I think I’d have to kind of show that in video recordings since there’s so many match ups to go through
@@IamMagicAOM Thank you, looking foward to it👌
I know you are trying out a bunch of different video formats, but this is by far where your element lies! Looking forward to the rest of the major gods as well.
I think so too :) thanks!
top video top game
Fantastic overview and guide, thank you!! I have a question: Freyr's got good winrates at low ELO, but his winrates are among the worst at high ELO; why do you think that is? Is his early game too slow at the top level?
And thank you for the great build order! I can't execute it as cleanly as you do, but it's already helped my opening be more smooth
I think there’s two reasons, one is that he’s very complex and hasn’t been fully figured out yet and the second is that he’s a bit of a slow starter compared to the other gods that give instantaneous bonuses, slow starters are having a bit of trouble right now in this hyper aggressive meta
@@IamMagicAOM I see, thanks for your thoughts!
Honestly I never saw a Freyr player go for Freya in Classic lol
Freyr feels like a poor Thor at the moment. The bonuses are mostly better eco (cheaper and thus earlier upgrades) and some hill fort and lategame bonuses with the tech.
However Thor is kinda the same but has a way better economy (4-5 extra dwarves early, a few more later) and also has a stronger generic army later with extra upgrades. Freyr Berserkers have slightly more potential but on the whole Thor just does the whole defensive and booming style way better.
I really like freyrs gift and twilight of the gods, I also think that gullinbursti is a game changer
"Not going to watch a 30 minutes video about Freyr" --> 30 minutes passes fast! 😀
Haha yeah I have a lot of trouble atm trying to keep things well timed, if I keep it short I can’t explain what I want and if I explain what I want it goes on forever haha, I’ll improve
@@IamMagicAOM That's what timestamps are for! If there are timestamps a 2 hour video could also work. :)
Please do this for every major god
I’ll try!
Do you have a majestic beard like Freyr?
nope :D
LAM can you make a resource calculator by aom?, you have so many tables with data, I think if you build it, it will be very simple and will greatly facilitate this matter, I think it will be a very good tool
For sure yeah, I have a friend who’s helping me input all the unit data right now and then we can add that next
Rock giant from wood seems broken ngl
I've been using a different build that gets handaxe even faster, but it reuires drop offs on 3rd and 4th villager spawns so maybe it isnt as simple as we want for youtube
Is 3min your fastest click up with freyr? It is quite good with 2 eco upgrades already finished
Yep 3m is the fastest without cutting vills
I love a lot the dragon without wings myth unit but I find it too expensive, 35 god resources. And with norse I find it's even more difficult to get. May be they could nerf a little their stats and make it cheaper
It also gives the opponent resources when it gets killed which kind of sucks
@@IamMagicAOM lol didn't know that, good information! I hope they buff it then
Fuck yes.
Also in your opinion is going through Ares as Poseidon viable or is not going Hermes just a waste?
I think Hermes is just so much better atm for Poseidon, cyclops do seem promising now after the buffs though and centaurs are getting nerfed soon so there’s a chance things change in the coming patches
@@IamMagicAOM I guess I wondering specifically against Thor with his Hersir Berserk spam if strong classical hypaspist was the best way to go
I prefer Ares vs Norse 100%
@@WlSH879personally I find mass centaurs better still, however admittedly I haven’t tried going for hypapists in classical just yet so you might be onto something
Love your guides
But I'm really surprised how I suck ass In multi-player while doing great in Aoe4
Seems like Aoe is very different in complexity and tactical gameplay in general
But I'm looking forward to get better
I think aom requires more strategy in game whereas in aoe4 you would have a lot more strategy coming into the game
For example, in aoe4 as Delhi you know exactly what you’re going to do and in most match ups, I think with aom the strategy differs a lot based on match up and map
I also think aoe4 is more mechanically difficult whereas aom is more strategically difficult
But hey I could be wrong!
@@IamMagicAOM do you know if there will be seasons and ranking leuages equal to Aoe4? That would be a very motivating thing for me personally
+1
Hey Magic, do you ever decide what minor god to go up to age 2 with based on scouting, or do you typically know based on the enemy god? I've been prequeuing my age up early on so I don't accidently forget later on.
Good question, with freyr mostly match up dependant, but for the most part I go Freya but that could change in the comings days/weeks/monts
ISIS BUILD ORDER PLEASE GOOD SIR
I'm starting to get really annoyed at the retold god powers. They werent this overpowered for 20 years
Yeah some of them are a bit over tuned
Nukes are fun though!
Did you just said you did us raw and dirty?
Hahaha
"Get right into the video" 2 minutes in already then a double advert.... 34minutes to explain a build order is already absurd, i wish i never clicked on this video
Sorry man I don’t decide when the adverts come, I have everything set on automatic from RUclips, I use to do quick build orders but people wanted details and follow through so I went over it as much as I could
In age 2 nothing is faster than raiding cav. The only other cav that have 6.00 base speed are podromos and camelry which arent available until heroic!
That's before even considering the thundering hooves 😮
GL HF and happy raiding! 🩸❤️🩸