AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Review & Benchmarks vs. 5950X, 12900K...
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Video Index:
00:00 - Welcome back to Hardware Unboxed
02:06 - Test System Specs
03:12 - Clock frequency behaviour
04:10 - Cinebench R23
05:09 - 7-Zip File Manager
05:59 - Blender Open Data
06:16 - Corona 1.3 Benchmark
06:26 - Adobe Premiere Pro 2022
06:52 - Adobe Photoshop 2022
07:17 - Adobe After Effects 2022
07:30 - Chromium Code Compile
07:52 - Factorio
08:41 - Watch Dogs: Legion
09:01 - Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Extraction [Vulkan]
09:16 - Hitman 3
09:31 - Tiny Tina's Wonderlands [DX12]
10:02 - F1 22 [DX12]
10:18 - Spider-Man Remastered
10:36 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider
10:48 - Horizon Zero Dawn
11:01 - Cyberpunk 2077
11:26 - Assetto Corsa Competizione
11:37 - The Riftbreaker [DX12]
12:01 - Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
12:23 - 12 Game Average
13:06 - Power Consumption
13:59 - Cooling Performance
15:41 - CCD Temperatures (Cinebench R23)
16:05 - Cost per Frame CPU
16:27 - Cost per Frame CPU + RAM +MB
17:01 - Cost per Frame CPU + RAM + MB (Cinebench)
17:49 - Cost per Frame CPU + RAM + MB (Premiere)
18:06 - Final Thoughts
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Ryzen 9 7950X Review
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According to a simple CBR23 (nT) test done by PCWorld's Gordon, the 7950X locked to 65W in Eco mode is still faster than a fully unlocked 5950X and also a 12900K. At 105W the 7950X is 25% faster than a fully unlocked 5950X. So Ryzen 7000 power draw is not totally out of whack but it's out of the box behavior is clearly done to blow the benchmark charts away.
This is kind of to be expected though.
Undervolting is always over powered. You can usually get most of the performance at half the power envelope on any CPU or GPU.
I think it is fine this way. The Cpu will automatically use the maximum it has in terms of cooling and power draw. And if you don't have this headroom it will automatically throttle or you can activate eco mode yourself and Voila now you have the most power efficient Cpu out there.
@@TiagoMorbusSa Gordon just set TDP, didn't bother undervolt, Wendell of Level 1 tried that with curve optimizer and lower TDP and I saw one Kit Guru knock of 0.1V.
Think reviews need to generally avoid golden sample effects by overclock or undervolt but investigate simple efficiency tuning separately.
@@TiagoMorbusSa It was not even undervolting. It was simply lowering the TDP and locking it at 65W and 105W. So that's a pure performance/watt comparison! 😃
You're right, the benchmark reviews tend to create perverse incentives to push power, testing on elite mobos, RAM and cooler.
I really think performance/watt needs more emphasis now, 230 PPT, 241/253 PL2 are a huge turn off and testing shows AMD have followed Intel climbing high up the overclockers power wall.
I'd like to see manufacturers have some profiles to ease switching between turbo, quieter and eco settings.
HUB continues to have the best coverage of new CPU releases, thanks Steve and team!
Would love to see a video about performance scaling with the 65w 105w eco modes. A lot of people call those CPU hot and power hungry but they are very efficient, AMD just allows them to operate at a wattage higher then the best on the efficiency curve. I've seen that even at 65w it can outperform 12900k in some tests. Electricity costs in europe are getting pretty crazy especially for business 😅
There's an article by club386, the gist of it is that gaming and single core performance are basically unaffected, and multi-threaded performance at stock is around 10% better than at 125W, and 25-30% better than at 65W.
I've long said people worry way too much about their temps for something that makes no appreciable difference. Like, just admit you like to see the number go down as a challenge. That's perfectly fine as an enthusiast. 99% of people can just set it and forget it. I kinda feel vindicated by Zen 4.
PCWorld already done it. And it's insane:
ruclips.net/video/uks4qQ2MXrM/видео.html
Yeah I had to watch PCWorld to even know this exists. To be fair, AMD wasn't quite ready with ECO mode at launch, and they had to send the BIOS for it to PCWorld. But, all the reviewers knew it was in existence, and it seems like it was only PCWorld that bothered mentioning it. So THANK YOU PCWorld.
I think the 105W ECO mode would be excellent for the 7900X because it's not going to reduce the work of 12 cores as much as it would reduce the work of 16 cores, since 16 cores needs more energy.
I wish AMD could put out a slider that you could set during run time to either cap voltage or cap clock speed. Power and heat start to increase exponentially at some point, and both Intel and AMD get you to the point where the rate of increase in power based on the clock speed is inefficient. Well, really it's exponential, it's just at lower clock speeds it looks linear.
I'd like to see about 6 - 8 different settings for 170W TDP rated CPUs and maybe 4 settings for the 105W CPUs. I wouldn't want to take a 7700X for instance down to 65W ECO. Actually for the 7700X I would touch it because it's already slower and using less power, but if I bought the 7950X I'd want to set it at 150W Eco.
@@haridym ruclips.net/video/uks4qQ2MXrM/видео.html about the nineteen and forty five mark.
It can reduce system power by MORE than 100W so an incredible drop in power consumption for just the CPU. In fact in the chart is about 150W drop in system power, which is VERY impressive drop in power for just turning down the CPU.
The drop in system power is about (330W - 180W gives difference = 150W) 150W/330W = 45%
So, a 45% drop in SYSTEM power, down to 180W in the all-core load they were running, and the performance drop was (37,973 - 28,655 gives difference = 9318) 9318/37973 = 24.5%
So, a 45% drop in SYSTEM power gave them a 25% drop in compute.
I wouldn't run that. I wish AMD could put out an ECO mode for the 170W TDP parts of 150, 120, 105, 80 and 65. Now, this would probably make an AGESA VERY large, so what I'd rather see is a slider you can adjust in the OS to cap the frequency. After all that's all these adjustments do. I'd adjust a 7950X down to 150 or 120W and the 7900X down to either 120 or 105W.
For the 105W TDP parts I'd like to see an 85W or 90W setting and 65W. For the 65W TDP parts that WILL come out in a few months, like probably summer 2023 (June - Aug), I'd like to see a 50W setting. And this is because there are many loads that just aren't very heavy and most users browsing the web, running office apps, etc.... don't need a CPU ramping up to 95 C and then gradually drifting down. I wouldn't need a Zen 4 CPU running over 5GHz either all core or single thread, UNTIL I'm gaming.
Man, 7800X3D in Eco mode is going to blow our minds.
And your pockets!
In laptop.
I have a feeling that if intel's RaptorLake is not that completive, they will delay the 3D or make it unaffordable.
@@iulian2548 eh even a small 5% increase in IPC would make Intels parts superior for gaming. We should probably expect 10% or slightly higher. I’m expecting more of the same where Intel leads in gaming and AMD leads in most everything else while also gaming at very respectable performance.
Intel still leads iirc in 0.1% lows which at this point is what matters for me since I game at 1440p.
@@nextjin intel will guarantee to lead at making you swapping out the motherboard if you ever want to upgrade later.
Would love to see you guys do some Eco mode testing, and possibly when all the dust settles with the latest Zen 4, Raptor lake, Geforce 4000 and RDNA3 parts out, how about working out which is the most power-efficient gaming setup you can get? Maybe with some undervolting or power limiting on the graphics cards too?
This would be very interesting
Thanks a lot for owning up to your Factorio mistake regarding the 5800X3D and being up front about it. The integrity is what makes this channel special.
Integrity 😂
It's just avoiding further embarrassment and trolling
You can tell when Steve is excited. He was glowing during his intro. AMD has brought back the competition and excitement. I am sure reviewers, such as HU, really appreciate that! I know I do as a consumer. Very excited for RDNA 3
Maybe he got some before the show 😂
In gaming yeah for two weeks lol
Lol bro. I9-13900k is the new king 🤴.
but they all were biased and predetermined to ignore the intel 11th gen, shows just how reliable these youtube tech channels all are. Amateurs that live of the unknowing noob masses who think these guys are knowledgeable. These channels are sold out to marketing their personal favorites or what gives them the most gifts. These YT tech channels are pure poison.
Next month they all will be lauding Intel 13th gen...... They have no soul. Who the heck wants a cpu that always tries to run at 95°c ??? If it were Intel nobody would want it, but when it's the fake underdog playing AMD then they all believe anything. AMD is no underdog, they lie just the same as all the rest of them and only idiots believe it all.
I see there already some intard replies.
Thanks for updating the factorio chart and mentioning factoriobox (which I didn't know about yet)! It's interesting to see how much improvement I should be able to get with a new cpu. 3-4x bigger bases here I come when the new X3D cpus launch :D
Steve, love these reviews! Thanks for all your hard work! I am looking forward to the motherboard/VRM reviews!
I loved that you included memory scaling with 7600x as probably people buing it won't opt for the highest end kit. The review for 7700x is probably already waiting to drop on the channel but I would love to see a similar comparison for cooler scaling. Since they all try too boost to 95 degrees I think it important to know what is the difference between 200$ AiO and 50$ air cooler.
Now I see you already talked about it in the video 😅
It's amazing how amd clawed its way back to top in gaming performance since Zen 1, truly beautiful.
not really Intel has been trading blows. good for us
But have they really? Raptor Lake just got unveiled today and has already made Zen 4 gains look worthless. Not going to get any better either next year for AMD w/ their 3d lineup against Meteor Lake.
I don't think they're alone at the top. Intel in terms of gaming definitely trading blows with AMD. Which is great news. Competition breeds better products. And it's a little disingenuous to crown them top dogs when 13th gen is only a few weeks away. Lol. The CPU market looks pretty solid with both options being good options. AMD needs to get it's GPU game up to Nividia levels now so we can see something similar on the GPU side.
@@JeremyCuddles I meant compared to Zen 1 they've definitely come a long way
@@JeremyCuddles AMD's GPU game is up there with Nvidia now. I've been super happy with my 6900xt that I got at msrp shortly after launch. trades blows with 3080 and 3090 depending on game. Ray tracing is not on par but thats really it right now as far as gaming. They might fix that with 7000 series though. AMD doesn't have to beat nvidia or be fastest , just be a competitive alternative thats priced well
This is outstanding and to reflect on the Zen3 chips, the 5800X3D is outstanding value for gaming if you cant or dont want to upgrade memory, motherboard AND CPU at once.
Yep - I have a 3600 atm. Planning to upgrade to a 5800X3D next year and not worry about my PC for another 3-4 years (except GPU)
@@Evilwombat Great plan. I've got a 5800X and im going to flog it as soon as the 5800X3d goes on sale
@@brownie43212 No, that's exactly what makes sense.
The 5800x3d is cheaper than all the upcoming cpus and still on par or stronger in gaming performance. It's more efficient with 105w, you can keep the Mainboard, you can keep your ddr4 ram. The only thing that'll cost you is the cou itself. You save easily 400-500$.
Until DDR5 is going to have real benefits there will be new clock speed standards anyway. So, there is no real incentive to buy DDR5 or a new Mainboard now when the 5800x3d will be good for another 5 years anyway AND you safe money.
@@Evilwombat if you have a midrange gpu personally I think a better use of your money would be to get a 5600x and upgrade your gpu
doing both would be ideal but 400 dollars goes farther in a gpu than with the 5800x3D
@@mikeryan1043 can keep the PSU and Cooler as well with ny b450 Tomahawk:D
Do a piece on eco mode please. Its the most exciting thing I’ve seen out of zen 4. It really seems like AMD designed this generation for laptop/ server and then made the power crank to hit desktop target. With 65w the 7950x was still better than the 12900k
This has to be one of the most positive reviews I’ve seen so far of the new 7xxx series. So many reviews are fixated on 95c operating temperature and power consumption. More so, I’d say, than when the 12900K came out.
Well to be honest they should it's a huge change for AMD. Not really a positive or negative honestly just kind of quiets all the AMD fanboys that scream super low power req versus previous gens. The wattage for a single core on 7950x is 52 watts vs 41 watts with 12900k. For gaming that's not a good thing, at all. Yet it has much lower power in work heavy tasks than a 12900k then destroys it, in work tasks only. There are high positives here but also some weird negatives too. Most people are just taking what they want to see and running with it as an agenda.
@@orangezombies You shouldn't game with 7950X, everyone knows that. Ryzen 5 7600X dunks on the rest of them.
As you see the i9 12900k still won the 12 game average lol
Which is interesting because I reckon a 10900k probably gets higher temps than a 7900X or 7950X let alone an 11900k or 12900k, none of the Intel i9 #900k CPUs can be under 100% load without throttling on 95% of CPU coolers
@@MindaugasSnegirevas Also, as for gaming on a 7950X, yeah sure, that's probably not cost effective, not good value, but I wouldn't buy a 7600X, I don't think anybody should, that's horrendous value, people said the 5600X was dumb, but the 7600X is around the same price but requires a more expensive board, and DDR5, while still being 6 cores and 12 threads which on most games would be 80-100% if you're playing above 100fps, my 5900X is often over 50%. 7800X minimum for gamers, or just get a 5000 part, the 7600X is way overpriced.
Great job as always Steve, nice music at the end aswell.
Amazing review video! Thank you very much! 🙏
Thank you for the review! Spot on!
Just wanted to thank you for using chapter markers. It makes watching so much better, especially if you’re trying to go back to a specific point in the video or find specific information. Far too many content creators don’t utilize chapters which is a shame.
Your coverage of this CPUs is really awesome. I´ve seen GN, PCWORLD, LTT ,JAY videos on the same matter and your series has been far better. Really great production, info and time precise for the content. Excelent work.
Looking forward to the video testing different coolers as if I ever upgrade to Zen 4 I'll be using my existing noctua air cooler.
Wow. The cost per performance chart is really good.
You should use this review and benchmarks as a template and include Adobe, productivity tools.
Happy Birthday, Steve! Great review and it seems the 7950X is a BEAST of a CPU. Don't think I'll upgrade right away though considering AM4 still has the 5800X3D.
Your bet wouldn't normally be on the 5800X3D for productivity though, it normally achieves even less performance than the 5800X - it's more intended for gaming or other cache-heavy workloads. Your bet would, fairly obviously, be the R9 5950X or 5900X (for a similar price of the 5800X3D).
@@dennisjungbauer4467 I'm pretty sure he's well aware of this.
I would love to see testing done on eco mode on both the 7900X and the 7950X and see how much of performance loss there is for both gaming (little I would assume) and productivity tasks like blender and video editing. Please share that with us!!!
Interesting info. All these tests are gonna have to be redone when 4000 series and RDNA3 drops since its getting obvious we've hit a gpu bottleneck even with the 3090 Ti.
Like every gen...
Honestly you are probably correct we will not be sure what zen 4 and 13th are truly capable of in gaming until next gen GPUs drop.
As a competitive gamer it looks like there’s no need for me to upgrade from my 5800x3d for now… thanks for the video!
Amazing video, i am really looking forward to buy the 7950x but i have to wait a bit to see more videos and collect more information.
ECO mode in gaming if your GPU is already maxed out or churning out 300+FPS could be interesting to see with different GPUs (how close it comes to its full potential), but in productivity what is the point, unless you are dealing with restrictions in the available cooling, like in a SFF build, the faster you produce content the more money you make right?
Depends if you're making more money than it costs to run the PC
Thanks for your hard work!
Ryzen 7 5800X3D is the true King!
Steve, based on arstechnica review the performance penalty when set on 65W and 105W tdp on ryzen master isnt that bad but the power saving is huge. Can you probably test that?
This is the stuff I enjoy, very exciting times, ty
Last time i was this early, AMD were cooking eggs with bulldozer chips
Looking good Steve did you drop a little weight? Excellent benchmarks as always. Cheers mate
I'm def waiting for the gen 13 reviews. But after Nvidia on the GPU front; it's looking like I may be going full team red for my new computer!
Do you measure test duration during R23? Would be interesting to calculate the total power consumed vs the others. Given that it's 60% faster or whatever than the 12900k but has relatively the same peak power draw it still consumes far less total power to do the job.
Looking at the result made me glad with my 5800x, will stay on it until the end of zen 4
Hi! This isn't strictly related to Zen4, but when you review Raptor Lake, can you specifically do a video on if the gaming performance with E Cores + P Cores is fixed?
I'm not super interested in upgrading from Alder Lake to Raptor Lake, but I know there are improvements to the ring clock and other things when both types of cores are available. If Raptor Lake gaming performance is unaffected by E Cores being enabled, this would be super helpful to know.
Thanks!
Amazing. What a breakdown...
great review, hopefully we see more memory settings comparison and with the 6900xt gpu for 1080p
Yesss! I wanna see the cooler vs clocks video!
Please dont just include Cinebench single and multi threaded test, but also please figure out how many loaded threads it takes before the cooler hits 95C!
I imagine a curve like... single thread, dual or triple thread being limited by max boost speed for stability instead of temps - and after it hits 95C its dropping clocks faster to stay within the thermal goal...
Also what voltages are we seeing on single thread?
Of course, if you want to game on it as well then you would use the Ryzen Master to lock off the other bank of cores and game on the first 8. (You should also turn off hyperthreading ideally.)
Just noticed the sub numbers jumping over 900k, 1 million subscriber milestone incoming!
Keep up the great work champ
Those graphs are Threadripper-like for MT and the best in ST also. Such great performance for people that need to have a workstation isn't as expensive as most think imho.
A LOT of the gaming benchmarks appear to be GPU bottlenecked. I'm 100% sure the gap between 7950X and ADL will increase vastly once we have RDNA3.
Uhhh, that's usually what happens with gaming which reinforces the statement that investing in the latest & greatest CPU for gaming is bad from a value perspective.
@@MLWJ1993 I recently upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 5 2600X and I am getting, demostrably across a variety of games, around 15% more performance out of my RX 480. I can easily see that these CPUs would add a great deal of longevity and performance to a new gen GPU.
Man, i want those shots with that figurine as my wallpaper 🥰
Cost per frame analysis was great, thanks for including that which most other reviewers seem to have left out :)
Hi Steve, it would be great if you could also include gaming power consumption for comparision. Thanks!
Always a huge work
I'm itching to buy something, does anyone know when the Raptor Lake review embargo lifts so we can see which is better and at what?
Another great video, thanks Steve.
Can you test it in ECO mode please? :) I'd like to see the performance with power draw similar to 5950X..
I love the Factorio benchmark. Really shows off caching and memory bandwidth!
really good video, the only thing that i find odd is your cp2077 fps is off and i am not sure why, is that test with or without RTX on?, i currently have a ryzen 3600 with a 6700xt, 30" ultrawide at 2560x1080 on ultra and am getting 111 fps, other than that would like to see gaming power draw.
I believe the benchmark results will get a bump up when paired with the next gen GPUs. I'm particularly interested in a full AMD set up of CPU and GPU having one homogenous platform could bring extra gains. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands doesn't give a result for the CPU as you state, it's GPU bound, so freeing the CPU with the next gen of GPU will highlight just how much performance has increased. That is a chart I'd like to see on the last and current gens of CPU to show the performance gains and note if there is a performance gain if using a full AMD system.
I'd love to see some benchmarks with the 7950 and 7900 tested with one of the CCD disabled and SMT disabled.
Are you kidding me? I got the exact cooler and case for my upgrade to this very CPU. Couldn't have found a more relevant review. "Thanks Steve"
Thx for the right conclusion with the temperatures and no push the negative hype of that as the most content creators as example in germany. they make a problem that is not a problem in real.
Yeah, it is big problem, I don't know what is reason, but most reviewers stop be objective.
I absolutely freaking Love the Master Chief CPU shots!!
🔥+⚡=💪
🔥 + ⚡= 🧨
I would like to see test with $30 tower cooler, $60 tower cooler and $99 Tower cooler to see how much CPU cooler affect to this CPU.
And then with hefty water cooler also. Could be interesting to see!
We will see how that one fares. Though differences between reviews are weird. I guess I forgot how it is in 2 years.
Thank you for all your hard work Steve!
Your production quality, speed of delivery, and overall content clarity for this round of CPUs has been extraordinary. Especially in regards to several other channels I follow as well. Much appreciate you guys and everything you do!
It would made more sense to leave the TDP locked at something resoanable and then have this ludricous mode where it would just tamp to the infinite overclock it could get like it does today
Thanks for the review Steve. Will you be comparing the 3090ti and 6950xt on the 7950x later on?
I really like how similar it is in gaming performance to the 7600x - that way you can get basically 1-2% off the best performance for 60% less money spent, unlike the case with intel's 12th gen cpus, where the 12600K and 12900K have around 20% performance difference.
En juegos o en productividad?
All this work with benchmarking and you know it is all gonna to have to be redone in 2 weeks and then again in 2 weeks after that and then again probably in another 2 weeks.
Exciting isn't it.
Zen 4 with 3D cache will be an unimaginable beast, cant wait for that part 😁
Looks way better than 7600x on expensive MOBO, I'm waiting for review of ECO modes of those parts, but I guess we need to wait a bit for it.
It's crazy how much AMD came out swinging with Ryzen every new generation. I can only imagine the gaming performance of the Zen4 X3D version...
The Ryzen 5000 series still seems like the sweet spot in performance for watt.
Love your content and just started the video, but I'd like to echo the sentiment I'm seeing in the comments.. Could we please see Eco Mode 65W and 105W benchmarks?
Moving from Mac back to PC after many years. I want to build a computer with this processor. Specially for music production, video editing and gaming.
Can't find the new outro music, although it is mentioned in the video description :< help !
So much fun to be had with Master Chief! (or Tex) 🤣
Why did you hide the AMD 7700X new video?
I managed to have a look at it and I{m going to keep insisting on including Adobe PrPro, AE and Ps apps.
The "cost per perf PrPro" chart is AWESOME, it appears the 7000 series is the way forward.
Great video, re-published to the masses.
19:35
For a moment I was thinking I'm on acid
Already got the 7900x on my PCCG wishlist. However, as my current i7-8086k platform is giving my rtx3080 equipped gaming rig sufficient performance in the games I play, this is really just an academic interest. Will monitor the performance benchmarks at 4k resolution. I use a 43 inch 4k ASUS ROG 144hz monitor.
Those 3D versions will be extremely interesting
Will you do ECO mode tests?
As always, exceptional review! The 7950x is a productivity champion, and honestly the only chip that makes sense to buy if you need the performance uplift compared to what's already out there. DDR5 just needs to drop in price so I can stick 128 GB of reasonably fast ram onto it. Guess I'll see what Intel has managed to cook up with rocket lake next month.
Have you looked into gather efficiency data such as what apple provides for their chips? I realize this isn't the most straightforward of tasks but even something like looping geekbench through a bunch of different frequencies/power targets would be insightful. Chinese tech reviewer geekerwan did this for mobile phones and the data they gathered almost exactly matched real world performance and battery life to the point I was blown away by how little progress has been made in the low power performance by qualcomm while apple steam rolls ahead. Doing this would show the absolute stomping in efficiency the Zen architecture has over intel's golden cove. Could also maybe do this for GPUs but that becomes even harder.
I just have to say as a blender user of 10 years, these blender benchmarks say little about the performance difference in blender itself. Users dont render with the CPU, its all GPU, I wish there was a benchmark of in-between frames if it was an animation for instance. But benchmarks can only go so far!
Great work otherwise, thanks for all the insightful free information you've provided over the years!
This is something I don't understand, and then they never test Blender with a GPU...because they are a gaming focused channel.
Please do extensive test about Eco mode. Zen 4 wonder right there.
Hi Steve, can you tell me where you got that Master Chief figure? I'm in Perth and is quite interested in getting myself one.
It would be helpful if you included the power consumption Cost per Perf in the charts. That would really separate the wheat from the chaff. These two CPU companies no longer strive towards efficient performance instead they just keep adding more cores at higher speeds and dgaf how many watts to run them.
It would be far more helpful to get some 1440p benchmarks and a comparison with the 5600. I suspect as usual it will be a pointless upgrade for gaming.
@@karlhungus545 He said during the Tiny Tina portion that CPU performance is largely negligible for most modern games. Cause Tiny Tina even at 1080p seen no significant performance gains for any of the high end CPUs. Which is the case for most modern mainstream games. If they did a 1440p video every slide would be "doesn't really matter, 1440p is mostly gpu limited. Doesn't matter, 1440p is mostly gpu limited." Over and over. Lol.
@@JeremyCuddles I get it, yet many still don't and think they're getting a big performance jump irregardless of resolution. So the videos should always be entitled 'review for those still on 1080p'.
I would love to see these CPU's tested with a Air cooler and at lower tdp targets to see what this does for performance per watt. It will probably improve greatly. It seems Zen4 is almost pushed to the limit far from optimal. When looking at gaming the 5800X3D is way more efficient.
Undervolting Zen4 will probably be very interesting as well.
Extreme impressive CPU. Thanks Steve!
I know its a lot to ask, but when you guys review the 13900k, can you include the 9900k even if just a little? I'm looking to upgrade this generation and not sure if going with the 7950x, the 13900k, or waiting for AMD and Intel to trade blows with X3D and KS refreshes.
Where can I find the outro music song? Searching David Vonk / DaJaVo only leads back to the videos on this channel, I can't actually find the artist for some reason
It's a Patreon member who made it for us.
Hey, Steve. Do you plan on redoing these gaming tests when the 4090 launches? A few of them seem to be bottlenecked by the GPU.
Can you even imagine 7800X3D and 7950X3D for Factorio players? Man this is going to be unbelievable!
500 updates per second might be achievable
I know right! Currently on 100 in that bench.
I am just going to wait for a month for everything to settle down. Then build a custom loop with a delidded 7950x. Der8auer's video has shown that delidding makes this CPU really cool, like 70c.
did you enable the intel quicksync in video encoding? thank you!
Would you consider doing EcoMode tests or just plain manual CBS > NBIO > SMU > Package Power Limit at some steps? Gordon from PC World hints that it beats the 12900K even at 65W?? I would like your more meticulous and trustworthy data.
i think the 5950x is still gonna be a really good chip for many more years to come for almost anything you can do
Currently using Ryzen 7 5800x with RTX 3060Ti and 16gigs of ram, it runs everything smooth at maxed out settings at 1080p and even Ray tracing ON doesn't cause stutters in demanding games. I think 7000 series is a bit of overkill and the 5000 series are still good enough for many people to hold and skip the next gen which is just power hungry and draws more heat.
All good.
What I want to see next is how RAM affects the 7000 series. Will it work fine with DDR5 4800, whether it can handle DDR5 7000 and how it handles non-expo RAM
Are the coolers advertised as am4 compatible also compatible with the am5 socket?
a bit of a flop, but a on sale great deal flop is a win!
Great vid as always!
Also, Steve please yell at Tim, you use a big monitor, let's get some more big monitor reviews!
Deabayer delid 7950x on direct die cooling -20C , +50Mhz on stock setting thanks to low temps + huge headroom for OC