Don't Fall In The Eric Johnson Trap!!
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I remember when I was around 15 listening to "Cliffs of Dover" thinking, "what the hell is that dude doing". Just completely amazed. Here I am at 44 still thinking "what the hell is he doing", still amazed lol
You and I both, I'm still learning how to play this song. And much of my style and feel comes from his playing style. Cliffs of dover, desert rose, forty mile town, etc, but I only kept my guitar playing as a hobby and fun never took myself seriously 🤗
Same same... Except 11 and 38
He’s the tone master….and an amazing player
whatever he did it was with an ES335 for Cliffs of Dover
@@_Suzuka_Joe Really? I did not know that. Thanks for the info
I hope to one day be able to fall into the Eric Johnson trap....
Lol
Hilarious 😂
@@Stevo_Drums haha, yeah! I literally lol'd earlier when I saw that comment
I hear ya! I'm hoping to fall in, fall out, and then fall back in, again!
@@voronOsphere haha...that happens a lot, doesn't it?! 😁
If there was ever a trap to be stuck in I say Eric Johnson is a great one to get caught in.
Came here to say I’d rather be caught in the EJ trap than any other trap
Agreed!! Lol
Yes lol
Lmao fr
I saw Eric Johnson in a small club in Belgium. Show was fantastic. Afterwards I asked him to sign my Eric Johnson guitar. I didn't know what to expect : I had read in a Satriani interview that "he was difficult to work with"... Guy was charming and gave a lot of attention to make a super clean and nice signature on the headstock!!! THANKS MR Johnson!
This is so me only it's the Lil Wayne guitar solo trap
Oh then you are golden, I think that’s called shredding
Joe Walsh tasteful licks too
Lol
I met Eric in a club in 1986. I made fun of him. He got on stage. I left apologetic and ashamed. Sorry again Eric. My bad. GO YANKEES!
What did you say to him?
@@tiki_trash I just busted his balls about how small he was and mocked his gear. Great huh? I was 17.
@@gilbertfalling493 LOL!
@@gilbertfalling493 We all did things at that age that we regret. Look at it this way: you learned from it, and he might have a story that he tells be about a 17 year-old kid in a club. It doesn't matter much. It's how you treat people now that matters.
@@nocturnalmadness9517 Oh I learned. Thank you for getting it. Stay kind. GO YANKEES!
In all honesty I always found that his piano style chords were the facet of his playing that I fell in love with, as opposed to his shredding.
Seriously! His chord voicings are stellar.
The funny part about your comment to me is that the guy didn’t shred; he just actually picked almost every note that fast!
Me too... though his pentatonic pyrotechnics are impressive, his clean sound and chord voicings are wonderful.
I've been in Eric Johnson fan for so long time. I was working at a pawn shop in Austin Texas in the mid-90s at the time that Ah Via Musicon was released. He walked in with the guy that wrote Desert Rose and I was so Starstruck. I practically ran to him so I could wait on him before anybody else got to him. He came in looking for a portable keyboard which he found and I sold to him. I also got his autograph. Yeah, he's Austin's own
I feel the same way about the SRV trap. I used to be completely obsessed with SRV style playing, but then I noticed that what seemed like every other guitarist out there was also trying to mimic his playing. Then at a certain point, I had to deliberately move away from that style in an effort to not sound like everyone else or another SRV clone. Although I still love his playing and find nothing wrong with borrowing some cool stuff from him or other legends. Cheers!
I feel like I wrote this! I had the exact same experience. I have intentionally gone out of my way to not play like SRV. It took about a year to get the licks and tendencies out of my system but I’m a more diverse player for it.
"EJ Lick Trap" probably isn't what i'd title the PDF haha, but I can already tell this is going to be a great lesson just trying it for five minutes. Thanks, I love stuff like this. Very helpful!
Video saved, in case I ever miraculously fall into the “Eric Johnson Trap.” Not likely, given my age and ability. That said, I think the effects add a lot to the sound of Eric Johnson’s playing. You have definitely got that part nailed, too; I’d describe it was a wet / clean sound. Well done.
"It's a trap!" Admiral Ackbar - 1983
What a clever way to get us to fall into the newly expanded and redecorated Eric Johnson trap.
It's a trap!!! The only trap I'd say he has is not knowing anything he's written outside of Cliffs of Dover.
SRV is such a fantastic jam.
@@omniscient420 so is east wes, trademark, gem, manhattan, soulful terrain.... the list could go on.
@@jamesslossar3865 Manhattan is definitely up there as well. So many great song.
Song for George on acoustic is pretty cool
@@jamesslossar3865 Aside from Cliffs, Trademark is my absolute favorite. His newer song Strategem is also fantastic.
I fell into this trap a couple months ago and a couple of weeks ago kinda got out of it by adding the b5, b9, maj3rd and maj6th as spice notes and also add them to arpeggios a lot of times to make myself sound unique , hopefully that’s a good way to create my own kinda sound!
Great video!!
I would sit on Eric's lap reading a map searching for the trap so I could finally play Zap because right now it's sounding like crap. Thank you, I'll show myself out now.
Does anyone else think this sounds like Peter Frampton when slowed down?
His chord voicings, song structure, melodic sense, and phrasing is otherworldly.
Excellent lesson. Thank you.
I would really like to see a video about that orange Danelectro (6 string one)
Same here!
"Mini-sweeps" = Economy picking, no?
Yeah
If Eric is a Trapper,why doesn't he wear "Grizzly Adams" clothes,instead of Izod shirts?
That slight economy picking is what makes it roll. Good stuff. I like this trap though. 🤘Great stuff like always RoBak! You get 10 flames and an all expenses paid vacation. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥✈🏖
i hate the word underated, but eric's playing is kinda being forgotten in alot of peoples mind ive noticed, hopefully im seeing the minority
@phillup bucket i hope your right for a long time
phillup bucket - loads of violinists around the world can play much better on their violins than EJ can play violin on his guitar.
@@BobK5 but can you to prove that?
@@socialLjetlag yes easily
@@BobK5 okay than do it
Don't fall into the cliffs of dover trap
Im trying to fall in for purpose
cool! i feel like i always play that first lick too much since i learned it
I’m 79 and long retired. But really appreciate when a musician truly knows what he/she is doing and is capable of clearly explaining and teaching whatever the artist is bringing across. This is so very well done.
The point about the picking is right on well. Excellent video. Thank you.
I am so confused. I fell into a trap too but it was a little different, it was after Ah Via Musicom was released and it was the Tone Trap. I decided it was his fingers AND gear. Then his Hot Licks VHS video came out, I still have it ready to go once I get the right sound, anyway, that sent me down a path and needless to say I had to get really serious about things to buy the equipment to go along with that VHS tape. 30 years later, a closet of effects, a room of amps, a collection of Fenders, George L cables of varying lengths and thousands of various 9v batteries pre used in different radios from the 70’s later and I am almost there. I just need one one more effect and I should have it and then I will be ready to learn how to play these guitars, I may even start with this lick! Can’t wait to fire up the Eric Johnson VHS lesson and tune up along side the man himself and get down to playing Cliffs of Dover. On a more serious note, that Tone makes everything sound like Eric Johnson even after you change up those licks. That tone is just so identifiably Eric.
Great lesson, always loving your Strat! Best to u and yours
Good stuff and creative phrasing piggybacking off what you learned from EJ.
You could switch it, by playing 5 then 3, then5 then3 to put it in 8ths or 16th.
Wonderful, thank you! Good work to do. Acquisition is the real trap; "...while visions of CS 63's dance in their heads." Yarp.
I have had an EJ strat for about 3 years, marvelous instrument, and I barely just got around to learning his secreta
I feel personally attacked by this video lol. As soon as I could play some EJ licks I fell in the trap
Joe Bonamassa has made a career out of living in this trap. I like Joe and I’m not putting him down.
I wonder if Eric Johnson initially picked up this lick idea from McLaughlin.
Eric has mentioned McLaughlin as an influence, so it’s most likely. Inner Mounting Flame is still in rotation in my collection. John is a beast!
I’ve just started nailing this lick at speed and he’s right .... it’s amazingly cool
I can't play that fast, but this was fun! Thanks Robert!
I'm just finding myself getting back into Eric Johnson after many years listening to other people. I wonder if you've ever done a video on your set up to get the tone that you do? It sounds lovely.
Its midnight here and was about to sleep but i guess one more video!!!
I was about to finish up work and go home. Guess I'll stay for 15 minutes longer today...
Example 2 sounds more like Jeff Beck from the Wired album. Cool.
Thank you. You should also do a video on how to buy a vintage guitar(cranky pots and all)
That is one of the most beautiful strats I’ve ever seen! I love that dark chocolate rosewood, the mint green guard, and that is the perfect off white. Sounds great too
Great lesson 👍
So, it's a Marty Friedman 5's lick with the difficult parts left out ;p
What a great teacher! I'm an absolutely terrible player and Robert made this lesson crystal clear.
Nice strat Robert....
It would be great if you could put the picking strokes (up or down) in the tabs!
Thanks, awesome licks!!!
I was able to escape the EJ trap by refusing to play 5 notes across 3 strings. Now if I'm doing some sort of EJ lick, it's 5 notes across 2 strings.
Example:
E 17-15-12
B 15-12
Funny, I often play phrases of 5 notes the same way, and incorporate slides in addition. I didn’t do it to escape the style so much, but as a way that was more comfortable to me.
Hi Robert. I hope everything is going great with you. Ok , I've been watching some of your Lesson Videos for over a year now. I'm not sure why , but this is the Video that proves that you're a Badass Guitarist. 🎸. Maybe because I've never learned anything by E. C. Maybe it's the way you put this lesson together. Either way , I'm now a life long Subscriber. That might not mean a lot because I'm over 50. LoL. You have great skills and sense of humor. Cheers. 🎸
I never worry about ripping off licks, its how it all works, how we all get inspired, started since way way back
Better than falling into the CC Deville trap....eh...if there is such a thing.
That's where the hairspray, Aquanet and cocaine form this unholy synergistic reaction to the fake tan and Lycra Spandex chemicals and cause your hair to bleach itself and your hearing to be damaged to the point where you can't hear how bad your own tone and playing is. If that ever happens to you, you'll probably have to give up music altogether. And become a drummer.
Man. I just came back to your channel again after a while. I can't believe you are at 330k subs now. I remember back when you had 8k. Thanks for all the years of awesome content!
I believe most Theory aficionados would call the third lick phrygian dominant?
The picking is kinda " economy" isnt it? Sorta kinda a little?😉
Love that strat , great video Thanks for the tips and lesson .
What was that bend you did after you played the trap run? That was wicked!
80's improvised rock riffs fit into this thinking quiet well
I love these video's
Couldn't think of a better so called trap to fall into If your smart you learn adapt and prevail Just do them backwards lol and leave a few notes out 😬
So good !!
Dude..You sound like Jack Black when You talk..great playing btw.
This would be a horrible thing to happen.....😉
I'm not very familiar with Johnson at all. I mean, I can name the Cliffs of Dover tune from way back when, but I never went into how he plays guitar.
Now this descending pentatonic lick. OMG, there is a simple way to play it using stretch pentatonics. That's why when I hear it, I'm thinking, is it stretch? There is basically a pattern you execute using three notes per string, and move down the strings. That's it. If your fingers are 1 2 3 (2 could be your ring or middle finger), it's just 2 1 3 2 1 -> 2 1 3 2 1 -> 2 1 3 2 1. -> means moving to next string down, and 1 2 3 cover the correct three notes of the stretch pentatonic box. If you can legato some of it, it can probably be rehearsed to be lightning fast.
I'm going to skip the original and practice only the stretch penta version.
Of course, one can get into "a trap" of any given guitarist they get deep enough into! Page, Van Halen, jazz players...you name it. The trick is "making it your own" (so to speak). Which is to say, to the extent one cops/regurgitates their licks verbatim, that's an explicit reference, right? ;) So the real trick is varying those licks in one's own way. RB does a great job here of illustrating how to do this! That said, even a consummate player like Joe Bonamossa can have "trouble" with this--he does a great job of integrating it with his own style--but it still totally grabs my ear when I hear him peal off a very Eric Johnson-type move!
This is a great tutorial Rob, really useful.Thanks mate!
This came out 4 days ago and still can't play it at speed lol
I heard that David Lee Roth scream at 0:50
I fell in the trap lmao ….. took me hours to learn to play just the intro. And months of practicing that intro to get it close to perfect and up to speed. Was it worth it ? ABSOLUTELY…. I didn’t play guitar for a while. Was always on and off. ( regret that ) someone made me a bet I couldn’t learn it, I said
“Oh I know I can, maybe not off the rip but I can learn it in maybe 3 days “ welp I was being generous, learned it in 24 hours, but I didn’t play it perfect every time, had moments where it was butter. Then moments where I’d play it sooooooo much I’d start some how messing up 😂 welp now I got it down. Only thing I can say is start slow !!!! Get your hands used to it, then slowly start speeding it up. My internal metronome doesn’t click, it just works 😂
All I can say is anyone can learn it. Just put your mind to it
Great Lesson, Robert! I can't wait to work 'em all in! Thanks!
Hey I’m at school watching this. I never miss your uploads dude!
ROBERT so what your saying I screwed up 15 years ago for not ordering HSN shopping networks one and only Esteban guitar with personal one on one lesson dvds.... fuck
just impossible for me to get those first 5 notes up to speed, the only way I can seem to do it is to go down up up into the 2nd string and then it throws the whole thing off, oh well!
What a nice guitar, looks very comfortable. Which guitar is that one?
I've been working on the first EJ lick forever and can't get the speed you do Robert. Just gonna have to keep plugging. 😓
My pea sized brain shorts out on anything more complicated than "Smoke on the Water". So I just do air guitar from now on.
Also sounds like Dann Huff from Giant
Robert Bocchino. I agree completely. Do I feel bad for the people here that love E.J. and have not heard one CD by Giant. They started in 1987. David and Dan Huff are master guitar players. If you don't want to buy their albums simply go to RUclips and get hooked. They had 5 studio albums. They had one Live album called Live and Acoustic with is an official Bootleg. The first 5 Studio albums from 1989 until 2022 are complete and total masterpieces in my personal opinion.
It's Phrygian! Its just that at some parts you omit some notes so the last part could be considered pentatonic. But not minor pentatonic, it could be considered the Japanese Insen scale, which is 1, b2, 4 5 b7. One of my favorites!
Nice basis for a turn point in a solo, easy to correct up or down from the flats and escape to another line.
Ive been there since 1981.. I dont want saving! Lol
I wish I could make it to the trap first, no but seriously that was cool, thanks!
Sadly my finger is not flexible and can't roll, and I found this out by watching Eric Johnson's lesson videos when I was a kid and I thought DUDE it's physically impossible for me. 😳 But I didn't let it stop me from trying and working around it.
Why do i want a pink strat ? I'm not gay . Still want one though.
The strat looks like it plays so much easier then your gibson's
Learnt the intro tp cliffs of docer up to the main 14-12-14 riff yesterday. As long as you have decent right hand control its not nearly as hard as you may think. Took a couple of hours to commit to memory
What is the efx chain your using in this video
Thanks
I still can't fall in his trap. I hope i will fall someday.
I don't!
I've never gotten out of my Jimmy Page trap lol
Hope it's okay to seek some gear advice here. Lifelong metal fan, I play a little guitar, but just started learning to play metal (thanks, Robert!) and am considering spending maybe a few hundred bucks to make my gear more metal appropriate. Currently I have an Epiphone Sheraton ii (semi-hollow, two humbuckers), a Fender Frontman practice amp, and a BOSS SD1. Without switching out my entire rig, what should I prioritize? Getting a more modern amp, like maybe a Katana 50? Some different pedals, like a Metal Core or a Skyline Djent? Maybe a budget shredder like an Ibanez Gio or Jackson JS22?
I've fallen into the Rob Baker Trap....Maybe I can wriggle free and fall into Eric Johnson's.
Interesting, Eric makes everyone want to play better or differently. Saw his Rick B. interview, nice humble guy, likes a simple amp and effect tone.
When I was playing bars and night clubs, I probably played in modes I still don't understand...we called it blowing notes. We were jamming as many notes as possible into each bar. Funny part is, most listeners thought we were good players. Makes me laugh when I think about it.
Well I wasn’t in the trap but following your guide of fret n string I already learned a little riff of his I never knew! Thanks! Took me 2 mins. I am a quick learner though.
love it but the last lick ain't straight pentatonic ......16th fret 4th string (F#) would need to be 17th fret
Interesting, that lick kinda sums up why I don't care for EJ's style. Wish Martin Barre would get some notice once in a while. He's really a much better guitarist than most of the ones that get all the notice.
What's the rough setup to get his sound?
love that strat -- what model is that?
From what I've heard, the "mini sweeps" technique is just basically called economy picking. And to me it makes perfect sense.
Crystal-clear explanations, thanks Robert!
But ... I also want to learn this insane little lick at 5:24 !!
so i clicked the tab link, and subscribed. didnt see this tab, and the only email i got was for fretboard decoder...where is the EJ tab?