Perfect Being: obtains Super Saiyan after exploding himself Ultimate Being: survives long enough under UV Lights to take the Aja Stone and conquer the sun Antagonists/Villains can’t really talk about plot armor ahah
Volcanoes are seriously underrated when it comes to destructive power, do not underestimate the power of a volcano, let alone, one that can launch you into space.
As the Ultimate Life Form, Kars' body contains the DNA of every organism to ever live on the Earth. He can manipulate his entire body on a cellular level to gain the traits of any life-form. this means that he has access to ALL ABILITIES THAT ANYONE HAD ON EARTH, LIKE FUCKING BEERUS
@@samanthalariatt5553 Lmao no. Not even with equalized stats. The reason why Naruto's abilities surpass his own powers by far is because chakra has a set power level unlike ki. Only the quantity of chakra determines how powerful it is. The quality's limit is the control.
Yeah, but then again Cell could try to surprise suck one of Kars's bodyparts to obtain his abilities That or blow himself up, if Super Perfect Cell could pick Instant Transmission that way then it could pick Kars's genetic shapeshifting as well
@@ale-xsantos1078 Not necessarily as SP Cell did have Goku's DNA in him, and Instant Transmission is a learned technique anyone can use (Goku just never taught anyone else it) ... Kars' Shapeshifting though as far as we know is something only ultimate life forms can do.
That wouldn't work because Cell is made from the DNA of like five different aliens and a whole bunch of other shit that's not natural like genetically altered insect DNA so there is no way Kars could copy him, remember Kars whole deal is that he has all of earths DNA at his disposal most of what cell is made from isn't from earth, and what is is only that way because of heavy gene alterations, not evolution
That profile picture is ultimately cursed... Recoome + Pesci = Pescoome? Resci? Now just add Marco from OP and you got the whole pineapple haircut gang
Kars being able to survive for a year without eating or drinking isn't actually that crazy. He has the biological data of all living things on Earth, and some lizards can survive on just three meals per year, plus plants photosynthesize, so Kars can probably do photosynthesis too and survive on just sunlight (which would be pretty ironic, as sunlight was once his primary weakness).
Cell in space: Finally, some me time to train. Kars in space: Ahhhhh! (Eventually he stops thinking in order to avoid the sheer terror of his situation.)
I think one main thing we forgot about Kars is that he learns very fast. He managed to master Hamom just from seeing it, so it probably possible for him to copy Cell’s skills and techniques just from seeing it and use it against him
I mean, one thing to consider with Hamon is that he had many encounters with Hamon users prior to become ultimate, so he probably had a lot of time to analyze the technique and understand how it worked. We don't know for sure how quickly he could analyze brand new techniques, though I wouldn't be surprised to see him master Ki control with enough time
Big Nigga ye they are pretty hot cause goku once reflected freiza’s beam and his hands was burning and he was going “hot! hot!” while dude is perfectly fine fighting in a active volcano. Note: goku did go a long way from that fight and at his highest fighting point he isn’t fazed by being in the lava of an active volcano so I don’t know if we can take this in account
Speed wagon is god himself. He created this world so that araki would in turn create him so that he could become omnipresent to have existed throughout all time and existence, so before he even existed once he created everything’s long with himself
@@thedarkninja6031 Cell didn't use a lot of techniques he should have been able to. He even mentioned he could probably even do a Spirit Bomb had he wanted. But it's really more of a nail in the coffin.
@@tokyoliteral9988 you dont need to be really strong, you have to have a really calm state of Ki. That's why Goku can't use Kaioken while in super sayian even though he can in base form.
ultimate and perfect beings : *exists* some british 19 year old and a blonde angry 9 year old : *you have forfeited your life privileges* WAIT I JUST REALIZED YOU COULD’VE DONE MAJIN BUU????
Eh, Buu doesn’t have that whole “ultimate being” thing going on. A better choice for fighting Buu in my opinion would be Notorious B.I.G., since they are both pink beings with insane healing factors that love to eat
I realized ultimate kars can't die he just stopped thinking so if someone was to go in space in jojo, they would find a floating rock with an awkward shape
@@despair4780 OP stated that ultimate kars can't die. I somewhat doubt that statement though, as Kars could be vaporised into individual atoms, dispersing with the wind, having nothing left to regenerate to. However, now that i think about it, the soul is a canon concept in the jjba universe, thus it could be possible for kars to regenerate around his soul.
@@teemuaho4807 yeah, people tend to forget that the DBZ universe is stronk as fuck, cell was originally gonna blow up the entire galaxy if he won, not just earth
@@teemuaho4807 The thing is that Kars can regenerate himself at a cellular level too, just like cell. Equallized stats means Kars can't get vaporized, but Cell could definitely get sawed in half. Kar's light blades are confusing but from what I'm understanding, he can kill people through walls by firing piercing light at them via blades.
@ז5.אדם ג'ורנו mfs are tough as fuck. They are like microscopic animals, and they have survived space, 300 degree heat, antartic cold, and a few other things
@@ultimatepronoob7320 Nah man even Piccolo could obliterate the moon with a random ki blast and that was in the saiyan saga. Yamcha had around 1480 in terms of power level wich surpasses piccolos strongest attack in his fight with raditz.
@@ultimatepronoob7320 its filler but Yamcha fought the ginyu force but it can be used in a debate because the filler doesn't contradict anything. Yamcha is also stronger than at least raditz and nappa and they were at least small planet busters
Honestly, the only way I see Kars winning is if Cell brags about how he can only be killed if his core was destroyed. Then the plan would be to surround Cell with a ton of minuscule insects or ,if you want to scrap the headcanon limits, even bacteria. The point is that something so little and pointless that not even Cell could find it. Then when he is completely surrounded, make the insects or the bacteria or whatever, transform into bombardier beetles and just blow him up. If that doesn't blow the core, then Kars has just seconds to try to destroy it himself. That was just my two cents on how Kars would have won, still I think Cell has more resources and attributes that can make him the winner way easier than Kars. Edit: Read the comments, it was interesting to see your take on the fight. As a DB fan, I never bought the regeneration from any single cell, nor that the core was on the head. Mostly because the Cell Jrs didn't got completely obliterated, they just got punched or sliced, and they're copies of Cell. I think that Cell is just skilled enough to protect he's core from most damage and that's why he didn't die from either Goku's Instant Kamehameha or blowing himself up.
@Big Cat The core is really just a plothole, because remember Cell said that his core was in his head but moments before that Goku blew up the top half of Cell's body
Remember Kars can just copy Cell’s DNA, giving him the saiyan boost and enhanced healing. The DNA Kars has is just boosted to heal faster, and with Namekian DNA Kars would be unstoppable. Kars is a quick learner and will easily copy Cell’s techniques one way or another. Also any techniques Dio used without The World are techniques Kars could use. Remember Vampires are just weaker Pillarmen. Cell would die horribly in this fight, and if Kars wanted he could just rip off his arm and create a Cell clone to fight for him. The only advantage Cell has is the fact that he can breathe in space because of Frieza’s cells. Even then Kars could just copy that. There is nothing Cell could do to beat Kars. The only way is if Cell had something like candy beam or Dabura’s stone spit.
Damon Lucitor except a MASSIVE majority of Cell’s DNA ISN’T from Earth. Kars is only capable of copying things from Earth, such as Hamon and the animal kingdom. Cell has the DNA of Piccolo (an alien, Vegeta (an alien), Goku (an alien), and Frieza (Also, an alien). Kars wouldn’t be able to copy anything from Cell because it isn’t from Earth. Kars wouldn’t be able to copy regeneration since that’s a part of Piccolo, who is a Namekian so he isn’t from Earth. He wouldn’t be able to copy Cell’s Saiyan cells since Saiyans aren’t from Earth. Kars can copy EVERYTHING that is from Earth, but he can’t copy anything from other planets since he isn’t even shown to do that at all.
I really thought you would side with Kars on this, but I'm glad that Cell hasn't been slept on and is recognized as a character who is capable of winning fights without relying on his insane power
@@carlosblanco571 JORGE JOESTAR Kars is non-canon. Unless you're talking about manga Kars--which is = to normal Karse--or some 3rd, canon version of him then Kars still gets mollywhopped by Cell
@@betterbeater2948 Then why wasn't Jorge-Kars used in this scenario? Because he's non-canon content which hasnt been acknowledged by Araki. Which goes for most fanfiction like JORGE JOESTAR. Your argument is stupid because it allows for literally any version of either character to be used, regardless of canon, meaning my freshman high school part 2 fanfiction where Kars gains The World: Over Heaven could've been used, but wasnt.
Kars is pretty strong when I think about it, I mean, he could do so so so much in terms of sneak and surprise attacks. Kars Shooting parts of himself everywhere is really strong, so imagine this: they are both exhausted, and suddenly, something bursts from cells body, because he left a part of himself on cell during the fights. Kars abilities are super dangerous if you give it more thought. He could probably turn into microscopic things, and even modify and invent new things he can turn into
I mean Kars could become a caterpillar and then feed off of Cell and use that dna to gain and use the dna to become a sayain or whatever Cell had in his dna
I believe Cell wins if we go especially based on how strong cell is for equalized stats. Eventually, whether accidentally or because it seems itd be the only feasible thing Cell could do, Kars would be knocked out of orbit. This would especially be the case if we're talking just a shear deathmatch. If cell was brought down to Kars level, I'm not entirely certain.
@@Ca-ti8zm kars hamon is stronger than the sun itself. He punches the ground full force with hamon? Ye planet EXPLODES. Also kars cant die. He can be defeated contained or whatever but its shown and explained he is immortal no damage can completely kill him.
@@Apaep12 Cell can just eradicate Kars’s cells to make him unable to regenerate, like how Gohan killed Cell. Also, keep in mind that Cell has full regeneration. Even if you leave the smallest atom behind, he’ll still come back alive.
We need more verse vs verse equal stats videos. It's pretty lame to see "the db power ceiling is higher than *insert anime here* so db characters instantly win. Doing the work of god right here.
The only anime character I can see beating literally every single anime he comes into contact with is Saitama. His power is literally to win in a single punch, nobody can beat that, not even Goku.
@@srnova9486 he is still immortal. Thats what I meant with different type of immortality. We got immortality such as kars, which means he cannot die naturally then we got something like hidan from naruto who is literally incapable of dying.
@@danishblunt9698 Naw dude if one is immortal then why have a regeneration factor. At best Kars can't die of old age or diseases since he's a vampire. But inflicting enough damage and he can die just like Cell.
@@jojotard5027 but if kars has the cells of every living being he would have cells cells gpku gohan ssj goku cells not angel cells cause ots not on earth
Star platinum The World But he can adapt to it similar to how hamon isn’t a living being from earth and is a energy that radiates from the sun but he could still copy it and even improve it by millions and how he’s able to copy the structure and abilities of outer world beings like how he’s able to incase himself in a shell made out of the same substance as meteor a rock from a different planet so I’m certain that kars could just copy cell’s abilities and and strength and multiply it by millions hell he could just hit cell with his hotter than the center of a sun hamon and avoid any further contact since cell would be incinerated by hamon destroying every cell in cell.
『Fizzy pop』 VEVO hamon is something completely different to getting cells from aliens and such, there is no way he could do that, cell isnt a human himself and is basically artificial life
Shadow wins because he's as fast, if not faster, than Sonic. Sonic has been stated to be faster than sound and other times he's faster than light. I've seen power scales of Shadow that puts him at Planet, Star, Galaxy, if not Universe Level (in terms of power). Shadow should be able to beat Kars; however Kars is smarter, has Hamon as hot as the sun, and access to the line of evolution.
It doesn't particularly always go that way. There are a lot of characters that would get their asses beat by Batman if you brought them down to his level. Hell a lot of characters in Dragon Ball would lose to Master Roshi if you nerfed them to his level because he's still one of the greatest martial artists in the universe, but is held back by being a human.
I still think that Kars can learn the basics of Ki control pretty quickly. It took him what, a few seconds to learn all of human language(s), and fighting styles? I think the longer the battle goes, Cell would get stronger, but Kars would quickly close the difference in ability to shoot energy beams and combat other abilities. Alternatively/additionally, would he have the JORGE JOESTAR novel Ultimate Stands? Also, couldn't Cell potentially absorb any life form that Kars detaches from himself, gaining its energy, if not its abilities.
there are three things to consider here: cell can NOT get progressively stronger throughout the fight, saiyans (and therefore cell) only get stronger when they recover from a near fatal injury. secondly: upon reaching his perfect form, cell looses to ability to absorb other life forms. third: cell doesn't have hamon, so as soon as cell throws a punch and touches kars, kars would just eat him and win.
@@windhelmguard5295 nope. Sayians in DBs are stated SO many times to get stronger during battle, especially in the TopP where Goku not only trough Zenkais but also fighting, got quantifiably thousands of times stronger. If not he got as strong as Android 17 in base, 17 could fight with Goku and VEgeta gainst Jiren competetively and because Androids dont get tired that would make base Goku at the end of ToP Blue kaioken times 20 lvl just troughout 48 minutes.
Damn, as much as I love Kars and how I'd like him to win, he can't beat a planet buster that can survive in space and regenerate from a single cell nucleus. The damage that the DragonBallZ characters can inflict is just too great. Cell could just, carry him into space and thats game.
1. He can live in space if he copied the water bear or if he just used esidesi blood but araki had to freeze him 2. Kars cant die 3. Kars can copy cell but stronger 4. Kars has an iq of 400 There would be no figjt it would be Kars copying cell-cell does the same-kars copies cell but stronger-cell catches up. They would do that for an eternity
@@windhelmguard5295 every if he punches him the moment he sees his arm gets fucking absorbed he won't just fucking straight dive into him for the rest of his body to be absorbed.
I’d argue that Cell’s regeneration alone makes him too much for Kars to deal with. We’ve never seen Kars regenerate at a level close to perfect Cell, and Kars really doesn’t have a way to fully vaporize Cell. Even with ki, Kars isn’t trained in any focused blast like a kamehameha that could defeat Cell’s regen. This was an obvious one tbh.
Also it should be taken into account that Cell can survive in the vacuum of space due to Freeza's cells. Kars can't so he can simply blow up the earth and then it's GG.
Your friendly neighborhood Black Knight Isn’t that because of the chi? It acts like a barrier between space and his body. I’m sure kars will pick up the technique like what he did with hamon.
why, why would this cross your mind? ger makes it so that you never do anything or never complete any of your actions be they voluntary/involuntary. can she bend reality or have on par strength w/ giornio?
I think there’s two outcomes, depending on which Kars you use. With Cell vs. Part 2 Ultimate Kars, there might be a way for Kars to win if he acts fast enough and/or takes in Cell’s DNA, but it’s mainly going to be Cell. If we’re talking about Jorge Joestar Kars vs. Super Perfect Cell, there’s only four words to sum up the fight: Gold Experience Requiem Ultimate. Or D4C: Love Train Ultimate. Being able to copy lifeforms is one thing, but having the Stand abilities of every Stand user, especially the abilities that make him nigh invincible on top of his whole “can’t die” schtick, truly makes him the ultimate lifeform.
"If you're not perfect, you aren't me." Pretty much Ultimate Kars is screwed badly to do anything against Cell. The ultimate being is nothing compare to the perfect being. ... What if Cell absorb Kars? Would Cell become Ultimate Perfect? If so... GG EARTH AND ANY OPPONENT.
Its also possible that if kars got his hands on cells genetic code he could use it to his advantage, which would make the battle much more interesting, perhaps allowing for kars to literally just atomize cell using his own attacks on a higher level or even use KI in ways that cell doesnt know of.
Only thing to note is that we really don't know what Kars's limits actually are apart from the fact that he technically can't actually be killed per-say. The way Joseph beat him was by managing to launch him into space, and even that didn't technically kill him, it just resulted in Kars being stuck in a near-earth solar orbit. Meanwhile, while Cell showed off far more tools, the tools he showed were his entire kit. I feel that, at least in a straight 1v1 without any potential external factors, this fight ends in a stalemate, with Cell dominating but not really being able to finish off Kars, and Kars just not being able to do much permanent damage to Cell.
The biggest disadvantage Cell has is that Kars Has a much higher Intelligence level compared to Cell which will go a LONG WAY at the beginning of the fight, giving Kars time to try and copy Cell. Cell would most likely also be at the disadvantage when the fight starts as Kars' fighting styles are very different to what he has seen before. The most important thing to note is that Cell could LEARN Kars moves if he used his SELF DESTRUCT, (as seen with the Instant Transmission.) Overall, I feel like this fight would MOSTLY be a tie/even match until Cell has had enough. On one last note Cell would probably not use his full power or even Super Saiyan when the fight starts, Cell is so arrogant that he would most likely go in at low power. That is all I have to say about this, overall, I think Cell Wins after a drawn out fight.
“very different from what he’s seen before” you know every opponent he’s faced are all master martial artists plus he has all of their dna so he had all their abilities including fighting abilities so that wouldnt really matter plus he has alien fighting techniques so i dont know what youre trying to say
@@corvancook4249 lets be real, its irrelevant. Even at same power cell would low diff kars, there simply isnt a single thing kars can do against cell. Cell is a being that has all the DNA and experience fighting people while kars has 0 experience whatsoever. In dragonball we have seen weaker characters cause imense trouble for stronger characters because they simply had a better technique. Even at even strenght kars is way to inexperienced to do anything against cell, this has been shown very well in jojo when he got defeated.
Could you do a series on Yu Yu Hakusho? I hear the use of the themes every now and again so I know you're a fan. Just wishful thinking I feel like it would be cool to hear your perspective on the show.
Awesome video, I agree with this video and pretty much no head cannon. You didn't really say anything like, "Oh, he could just copy everything cell does" Because that wouldn't make sense. That would be out of the JoJo multiverse. And you didn't say any head cannon about Cell either. GG.
Well he can obtain Cell's DNA, which at least sayian dna is similar enough to human dna to produce viable offspring. How would he obtain Cell's dna? Well, with how the mitochondria was obtained, or by an incredibly rare process in nature that bacteria sometimes do that adds the dna of their food to them. But, since Kars has such control he can purpously make this event occcur either way.
Equilized stats is a preety good move considering Cell would normally just disintegrade him instanly. The guy is faster than sound stronger than a mountain and with minimal to no effort can destroy the Earth.
I would honestly give this victory to Kars. We all know how powerful Cell is. That is something most won't forget. The problem to that is while both of them are arrogant, but Kars has no problem taking a cheap victory. Kars can never get tired and cannot die, but Cell can get tired and die. While Cell has enough power to destroy the planet and solar system, he wouldn't go that far if he was pushed to that level of desperation, fear and anger. If Kars managed to cut off one of Cells arm and absorb it, Cell would let him do it to test his power. He is that arrogant. Some would say Cell is made up of extraterrestrial dna, so it wouldn't be possible. I think it is possible because Cell does have human dna, and he is the ultimate life form. He has all the dna of every living being, and outperforms them. Him absorbing Cell arm would take some time, but he can pull it since his body is on a completely different level of species, and his massive intelligence with thousands of years of living and experience. The crazy thing is, Cell would still let him do it. He let Z-Fighters train for a week to have the perfect challenge. So he would let that happen to get that perfect challenge from Kars. The only way I can see this happening if Cell just blows up the planet without that care of a perfect challenge, survives in space and sees Kars turn to stone, and destroy said stone. Kars won't be dead, but his body would everywhere. If not, then it's just who can outlasts and get the upper hand on one another. Kars win.
Remember, Kars has the ability of Wamuu with air thingies, as seen when he just got to space, so it's reasonable to assume he has all of Wamuu's abilities Edit: It's reasonable to assume that he also has Esidisi's abilities too.
I don’t think that was holy sandstorm I’m pretty sure if you rewatch him in space he makes air vents to shoot out air which he thought would push him back to Earth.
Ok so this is just my opinion so please don’t hate, Cell has freiza and king colds cells which means he can just blow up the planet, and we all know how Kars went down- I mean up. People are saying that Kars can just copy Cell’s cells to gain his abilities, well Kars has the genetic data of all of earth’a evolutionary line. I’m pretty sure that he can’t use the powers of extraterrestrial beings. Another thing is that Kars doesn’t copy the abilities of life forms, he’s using things he already has I think, so I don’t think he can just use Cell’s abilities. The pillar men in general have a cooler theme tho.
Kars is completely immortal if I recall correctly, so the only way to defeat him is to render him helpless like Joseph Joestar did, or banish him to another realm like what the Z fighters did to Garlic Jr. who was also immortal. Cell can only be defeated if you destroy every cell in his body. They also both have a ton of abilities like Kars can literally create new life, not just kill. Ultimately yes I do think Cell would probably win because Kars has no way of destroying every cell, whereas all Cell has to do is either blast Kars out into the void of outer space or destroy the Earth or whatever other planet they are fighting on. But just to be clear, Kars would not die, he would just lose the fight. There is also the option of Cell defeating Kars the way Garlic Jr. was defeated. As far as how Kars could defeat Cell, well he could get Cell to self-destruct for an easy win, or get Cell vaporized by throwing him directly into the Sun, but it would be difficult for Kars to pull off the move of throwing Cell into the Sun and keeping Cell from changing his course. The main advantage Cell has over Kars is Cell can still function and fight in outer space while Kars is rendered useless in space. And Cell would have a much easier time than Joseph Joestar at getting Kars into outer space. But honestly I think the video exaggerates Kars’s weaknesses, Kars is pretty strong and impossible to fully defeat unless you wished away his immortality with the Dragon Balls or something like that. Or of course, one of the Grand Zenos could destroy either Cell or Kars very easily, no problem, with things like immortality being irrelevant to them because they have omnipotent power and can just undo the immortality with zero effort, they are able to destroy entire universes on just a whim.
Don’t forget Kars got EVERY ability when he used the stone mask, that means he was more than likely got a stand ability and if he got Hamon 10,000 times stronger then Joseph’s Hamon at the time that means his stand would of been insanely powerful
If he really had a stand ability (or them all if you go by the letter), he probs could've just stopped time and fucked em up. but then again, he isn't very intelligent apart from the stone masks.
@@citcoin-official2681 I am aware. The thing is, he could out preform ANY creature. Therefore, if stands are an extension of humans, which are biological, then Kars would be able to use stand abilities.
I started thinking about the fight, (Agree Cell takes this, You'd have to seriously stack the deck and wildly speculate to give Kars a chance.) But I think it would make an even better TFS Cell vs. episode. Specifically, Kars falls from space and lands next to Cell's arena. He regenerates from being a space rock, and then just lays there because he stopped thinking.
Still think there's a decent chance that with chi manipulation being a basic skill for some species such as saiyan and with kars' intelligence that he might be able to learn that as well
So what about giorno with GER vs cells Cell: can I beat you? Ger: yes but actually no (Edit: Ight since y'all is smart what about ascension dio vs cell) Dio: **thanos snap** (New edit: **looks at comment section** Also me: *HOLY SHITTY SPAGHETTI* )
Keep in mind though, due to Joseph's tricksy fighting style, we never really got to see the full extent of Kars' Hamon. Melting Joseph was his "look what I can do with just a pinky-tap" thing. And if Kars had the Red Stone for further manifold amplification of Hamon, I think it could get to planet-busting tier. And we know from Joseph that Hamon's principle strength is usually its flexibility. And as a side effect of how Kars' attacks are primarily organic, that means that they are all also vectors for a Hamon attack. At the least, I think he has a fighting chance. Good video though!
just cause he has the red stone doesnt mean his strength leaps that far planet busting isnt very special in dragon ball either, when vegeta first appears he’s destroying a planet, even kid vegeta was destroying planets for fun
Kars was able to adapt Harmon. He would most likely be able to adapt Ki, but he wouldn’t be able to do much with it on account of his limited understanding (ie. when he got hamon he just kept ties to hit Joseph with it instead of channeling it through the ground or anything creative.
people seem to forget that Kars can simply absorb Cell just by barely touching him, and there is really nothing Cell can do about that. All pillarmen have the absorbtion ability, and hamon is the only known counter to absorbtion. Incase you believe that Kars would forget to use absorption, that's impossible. The pillarmen absorption ability is a subconcious ability demonstrated by Whammuu. Also, Kars has that 400 IQ. If Cell were to absorb him, he would be absorbed from the inside out by Kars. Kars potential is technically limitless. If cell wanted to, he could easily defeat Kars, but he would have to completely vaporize every last cell of Kars. Kars could also turn into perfect cell and beat him that way, but wether or not he would be able to use Ki, as Cell, is really up for the reader to decide. Considering Kars has a 400+ IQ, limitless potential, imortality, etc, and was able to learn, and master hamon to the point that he created temperatures hotter than the surface of the sun, I wouldn't be suprised if he was able to master the ability to use Ki, and defeat Cell.
Nio37 but how will kars instantly know cell techniques or how do we know he will be more powerful than him, cell has the experience kars doesn’t the reason he knew hamon is because he fought clans that used hamon.
Nio37 you still haven’t explain how will he instantly know ki or cells techniques also you still haven’t explain how he learns to use hamon, it is because he fought hamon clans thousands of years ago
@@sircartier3360 "He can manipulate his entire body on a cellular level to gain the traits of any life-form." And kars literally saw joseph just use hamon and copied it so maybe he could see perfect cell using ki and copy that too.
@@dominator80053 kars has fought Hamon users for thousands of years so he's familiar with Hamon same can't be said for ki cell will smack him into orbit before cars could even process what happened
I think you forgot the fact that while cell gets stronger, he's also getting tired (That's why goku gave him a zensu bean). That wouldn't change much (cell would still probably win), but still that would add some "resistance factor", making th fight more interesting.
Perfect being: loses to a child
ultimate being: loses to a volcano
you can be as perfect as you want, MCs plotarmor still takes you from behind
*Pucci would like to know your location*
dead meme He also loses to a child lol.
the ultimate life form of earth lost to the ultimate natural disaster of earth.
Perfect Being: obtains Super Saiyan after exploding himself
Ultimate Being: survives long enough under UV Lights to take the Aja Stone and conquer the sun
Antagonists/Villains can’t really talk about plot armor ahah
Volcanoes are seriously underrated when it comes to destructive power, do not underestimate the power of a volcano, let alone, one that can launch you into space.
Kars: Has the genetic code of every creature on earth
Cell: Has cells from several extraterrestrial species
Kars: :o
His name is ironically Cell.
Kars: CAN I SEE THOSE?
[Before"taking a sample"]
As the Ultimate Life Form, Kars' body contains the DNA of every organism to ever live on the Earth. He can manipulate his entire body on a cellular level to gain the traits of any life-form. this means that he has access to ALL ABILITIES THAT ANYONE HAD ON EARTH, LIKE FUCKING BEERUS
naruto stomps both perfect cell and kars lol
@@samanthalariatt5553 Lmao no. Not even with equalized stats. The reason why Naruto's abilities surpass his own powers by far is because chakra has a set power level unlike ki. Only the quantity of chakra determines how powerful it is. The quality's limit is the control.
They would probably spend most of the time debating which is prettier:
Kars’s Hair vs Cell’s Eyes
kars hair and abs vs cells eyes and cheek bones
Isn’t it obvious
Kars hair is superior
Kars still looks prettiest.
@@uva6969 I DONT KNOW MAN, have u seen Cell's CHIZZLING jawline? And those Ruby pink eyes?😳
I can imagine Joseph and Goku just casually chatting on the sidelines while this happens.
Nissu nissu very nissu goku chan
Gohan there too
While daddy speedwagon narrates
"Have you ever cheated on your wife?"
"what's cheating? Is that a food?"
@@HazeTinnfog lol
I know kars anylizing Cells, abilities and copying his genetic structure is a cheap argument, but when has Kars ever steered away from a cheap win?
Yeah, but then again Cell could try to surprise suck one of Kars's bodyparts to obtain his abilities
That or blow himself up, if Super Perfect Cell could pick Instant Transmission that way then it could pick Kars's genetic shapeshifting as well
@@ale-xsantos1078 Not necessarily as SP Cell did have Goku's DNA in him, and Instant Transmission is a learned technique anyone can use (Goku just never taught anyone else it) ... Kars' Shapeshifting though as far as we know is something only ultimate life forms can do.
That wouldn't work because Cell is made from the DNA of like five different aliens and a whole bunch of other shit that's not natural like genetically altered insect DNA so there is no way Kars could copy him, remember Kars whole deal is that he has all of earths DNA at his disposal most of what cell is made from isn't from earth, and what is is only that way because of heavy gene alterations, not evolution
@@brownwindedangel ah true, I never considered that part.
@@ale-xsantos1078 I think his best bet is blow the planet up. Plus cell is now stranger to cheap wins when necessary either.
the ultimate battle it will be perfect
Bruh
Damn you good
Haha, I see what you did...
Underrated
Thank u u made my day
One can adsorb other warriors, and one can copy any living creature. I'm pretty sure this basically lasts forever. The earth loses.
Cell can absorb him.
@@stefanocremonini2656 and kars can copy him he does not have the cells of every being but kars does so he would have cells cells basicly
They can both Absorbe
But only last can absorb with only a touch
@@stefanocremonini2656 Kars could absorb Cell's tail while being absorbed
what kaleb says: "kars vs cell"
what I hear: "cars for sale"
Shiiii cars fo sale count me in boiii
U ruined it.
ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
@@justinrobertson9116 *shut*
Cars salesman:*slap Kars*
Also Cars salesman:*got eaten by Kars on cellular level*
I can’t decide whether to make a tfs or devilartemis reference
"Why not both?"
That profile picture is ultimately cursed... Recoome + Pesci = Pescoome? Resci? Now just add Marco from OP and you got the whole pineapple haircut gang
Need to send it to devilartemis
Do both
Devil artemis because tfs has 4 in its name and mista would hate that
Kars being able to survive for a year without eating or drinking isn't actually that crazy. He has the biological data of all living things on Earth, and some lizards can survive on just three meals per year, plus plants photosynthesize, so Kars can probably do photosynthesis too and survive on just sunlight (which would be pretty ironic, as sunlight was once his primary weakness).
Kars: I can survive a whole year without eating or drinking.
Cell: Bruh I can regrow myself from a singular cell
@@rhysjonsmusic kars: whoa same! Can you clone yourself too?
@@kinglycrimson cell: well, I mean... i can split myself into four people... does that count?
@@dickjohnson8521 yes
Also kars: **was in a pillar for thousands of years**
Cell in space: Finally, some me time to train.
Kars in space: Ahhhhh! (Eventually he stops thinking in order to avoid the sheer terror of his situation.)
Kars can able to survive in 1 year without eating and drinking
Kars in space : well that was a lie
He stopped thinking so his brain dont waste any meal or drink
Hes still alive but hes brain is freezed and dead
He ceases activity so he wouldn’t die, which means he can go into hibernation like he was in the pillar until he finds food.
Oh wait.. so this means Kars is dead
It's been well over a year now in the jojoverse since Kars was shot into space
Fun fact: Echoes was inspired by cell , especially act 1 and 2
Echos act 3 3 Freeze S H I T
Fun fact: Echoes act 0 was inspired by an egg
@@dai6556 holy S-H-I-T what? i didnt know that!!
dai bro you must be lyingggggg
@@Wyrmsforbrains jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Echoes
Look at the trivia
I think one main thing we forgot about Kars is that he learns very fast. He managed to master Hamom just from seeing it, so it probably possible for him to copy Cell’s skills and techniques just from seeing it and use it against him
Also, isn't there something to be said for Kars' hamon? I'm thinking he could use that to destroy Cell's body in entirety.
The problem with that is that cell had sooo many different abilities i think the fight would be over before kars could learn all
@@master6of6omens6 down to the last atom? No cell can heal from a single cell so that wouldnt work
I mean, one thing to consider with Hamon is that he had many encounters with Hamon users prior to become ultimate, so he probably had a lot of time to analyze the technique and understand how it worked. We don't know for sure how quickly he could analyze brand new techniques, though I wouldn't be surprised to see him master Ki control with enough time
@@nightcaller92 Also I imagine his enhanced body amped his hamon ability as well.
It’s funny looking at comments and seeing people not reading that it’s equal stats
The video is still great. Some great scaling if you ask me. And pretty much zero head cannon
Golden Robodude is the Kamehameha hot?That question filters into my argument just answer if you know
Big Nigga ye they are pretty hot cause goku once reflected freiza’s beam and his hands was burning and he was going “hot! hot!” while dude is perfectly fine fighting in a active volcano. Note: goku did go a long way from that fight and at his highest fighting point he isn’t fazed by being in the lava of an active volcano so I don’t know if we can take this in account
@@bana8736 Ah yes, Martial arts = dumb.
yeah and in equalized stats, kars wins
I love how I can tell when DBZA footage is being used
Speedwagon alone is outerversal, with his razor hat... theres no point in fighting you never existed
Speed wagon is god himself. He created this world so that araki would in turn create him so that he could become omnipresent to have existed throughout all time and existence, so before he even existed once he created everything’s long with himself
speedwagon is the god of the JJBA universe, while yamcha is the god of the DBZ universe
Kaminoshi seikatsu just seeing speed wagon’s true form would kill all of us instantly
Then that makes Jonathan's Arm outerversal+
@@mee091000 that was speedwagons avatar. No one has ever seen his true form
Not even mentioning that Cell should know the Kaioken.
it's hard to use, you need to be really strong
He never used it why would he use it now
@@thedarkninja6031 Cell didn't use a lot of techniques he should have been able to. He even mentioned he could probably even do a Spirit Bomb had he wanted. But it's really more of a nail in the coffin.
@@tokyoliteral9988 you mean like Cell was?
@@tokyoliteral9988 you dont need to be really strong, you have to have a really calm state of Ki. That's why Goku can't use Kaioken while in super sayian even though he can in base form.
ultimate and perfect beings : *exists*
some british 19 year old and a blonde angry 9 year old : *you have forfeited your life privileges*
WAIT I JUST REALIZED YOU COULD’VE DONE MAJIN BUU????
British, not american.
Eh, Buu doesn’t have that whole “ultimate being” thing going on. A better choice for fighting Buu in my opinion would be Notorious B.I.G., since they are both pink beings with insane healing factors that love to eat
LegosaurG he’s talking about kars
Gohan was nine and Joseph was British
Lol
2:18
Bruh that's the TFS clip with the flys lol
And the emerald tile at 9:16
I literally paused at the flies part
I realized ultimate kars can't die he just stopped thinking so if someone was to go in space in jojo, they would find a floating rock with an awkward shape
ye but we never saw the full potential of his healing so technically cell could vapourize him
@@despair4780 OP stated that ultimate kars can't die. I somewhat doubt that statement though, as Kars could be vaporised into individual atoms, dispersing with the wind, having nothing left to regenerate to. However, now that i think about it, the soul is a canon concept in the jjba universe, thus it could be possible for kars to regenerate around his soul.
@@teemuaho4807 yeah, people tend to forget that the DBZ universe is stronk as fuck, cell was originally gonna blow up the entire galaxy if he won, not just earth
@@lonecalzone6901 if Kars was in dbz tho he would have EVERYONE ABILITIES also gods are a thing on dbz so...
Oh Boi
@@teemuaho4807 The thing is that Kars can regenerate himself at a cellular level too, just like cell. Equallized stats means Kars can't get vaporized, but Cell could definitely get sawed in half. Kar's light blades are confusing but from what I'm understanding, he can kill people through walls by firing piercing light at them via blades.
I'm gonna say that if Kars could learn about hammon just from watching, he could. figure. out Ki too.
True
@@mryoung6090 Do you think he could learn god ki?
wait no, no he can't, it requires a ritual I dont wanna get into tht.
@@dreadfulcascade732 I don't know about god ki....maybe, maybe not
Btw he will always get a super strong form of what he learns
Kars wouldn't know how to properly control ki so at the very least he would get a tad bit stronger.
Kars could've survived space if he tapped into his water bear genes
AND THEN he will unwillingly, accidentally fly into a black hole or god know whatever, it's like a car in snow, or skidding off the road
He’s still alive though
@ז5.אדם ג'ורנו mfs are tough as fuck. They are like microscopic animals, and they have survived space, 300 degree heat, antartic cold, and a few other things
ruclips.net/video/aMUvNWuSq6I/видео.html
@@solidspider6509 thanks
"Kars has genetic material from every animal"
So kars is beast boy.
*Sexy Beast Boy
But with a higher iq
Doesn't he technecly have cell cells?
David Ioniță not Saiyan or ice cells
I know something he could become an android or Saiyan
Me reads first half of title: umm no
Me finishes: ahh yes ok
Waffles isn't Yamaha like the only fighter that can't bust a planet cuz that's what I thought
@@ultimatepronoob7320 Nah man even Piccolo could obliterate the moon with a random ki blast and that was in the saiyan saga. Yamcha had around 1480 in terms of power level wich surpasses piccolos strongest attack in his fight with raditz.
Rissoto Nero Giovanna oh yeah
@@ultimatepronoob7320 Yamcha can bust a planet for sure.
@@ultimatepronoob7320 its filler but Yamcha fought the ginyu force but it can be used in a debate because the filler doesn't contradict anything. Yamcha is also stronger than at least raditz and nappa and they were at least small planet busters
Honestly, the only way I see Kars winning is if Cell brags about how he can only be killed if his core was destroyed. Then the plan would be to surround Cell with a ton of minuscule insects or ,if you want to scrap the headcanon limits, even bacteria. The point is that something so little and pointless that not even Cell could find it. Then when he is completely surrounded, make the insects or the bacteria or whatever, transform into bombardier beetles and just blow him up. If that doesn't blow the core, then Kars has just seconds to try to destroy it himself.
That was just my two cents on how Kars would have won, still I think Cell has more resources and attributes that can make him the winner way easier than Kars.
Edit: Read the comments, it was interesting to see your take on the fight. As a DB fan, I never bought the regeneration from any single cell, nor that the core was on the head. Mostly because the Cell Jrs didn't got completely obliterated, they just got punched or sliced, and they're copies of Cell. I think that Cell is just skilled enough to protect he's core from most damage and that's why he didn't die from either Goku's Instant Kamehameha or blowing himself up.
Plus he can make a ki shield around himself
If that happens he’ll just make a barrier like he did to goku
@Big Cat The core is really just a plothole, because remember Cell said that his core was in his head but moments before that Goku blew up the top half of Cell's body
Remember Kars can just copy Cell’s DNA, giving him the saiyan boost and enhanced healing. The DNA Kars has is just boosted to heal faster, and with Namekian DNA Kars would be unstoppable. Kars is a quick learner and will easily copy Cell’s techniques one way or another. Also any techniques Dio used without The World are techniques Kars could use. Remember Vampires are just weaker Pillarmen. Cell would die horribly in this fight, and if Kars wanted he could just rip off his arm and create a Cell clone to fight for him. The only advantage Cell has is the fact that he can breathe in space because of Frieza’s cells. Even then Kars could just copy that. There is nothing Cell could do to beat Kars. The only way is if Cell had something like candy beam or Dabura’s stone spit.
Damon Lucitor except a MASSIVE majority of Cell’s DNA ISN’T from Earth. Kars is only capable of copying things from Earth, such as Hamon and the animal kingdom. Cell has the DNA of Piccolo (an alien, Vegeta (an alien), Goku (an alien), and Frieza (Also, an alien). Kars wouldn’t be able to copy anything from Cell because it isn’t from Earth. Kars wouldn’t be able to copy regeneration since that’s a part of Piccolo, who is a Namekian so he isn’t from Earth. He wouldn’t be able to copy Cell’s Saiyan cells since Saiyans aren’t from Earth. Kars can copy EVERYTHING that is from Earth, but he can’t copy anything from other planets since he isn’t even shown to do that at all.
The camera man is the strongest anime character he’s watched every anime fight that you can watch on tv
I really thought you would side with Kars on this, but I'm glad that Cell hasn't been slept on and is recognized as a character who is capable of winning fights without relying on his insane power
What about novel kars he's op
@@carlosblanco571 JORGE JOESTAR Kars is non-canon. Unless you're talking about manga Kars--which is = to normal Karse--or some 3rd, canon version of him then Kars still gets mollywhopped by Cell
@@HalohbotTech Irrelevant whether he's canon or not, he's still a version of Kars.
@@betterbeater2948 Then why wasn't Jorge-Kars used in this scenario? Because he's non-canon content which hasnt been acknowledged by Araki. Which goes for most fanfiction like JORGE JOESTAR. Your argument is stupid because it allows for literally any version of either character to be used, regardless of canon, meaning my freshman high school part 2 fanfiction where Kars gains The World: Over Heaven could've been used, but wasnt.
@@betterbeater2948 you stupid ofc it matters if it's Canon or not
Kars is pretty strong when I think about it, I mean, he could do so so so much in terms of sneak and surprise attacks.
Kars Shooting parts of himself everywhere is really strong, so imagine this: they are both exhausted, and suddenly, something bursts from cells body, because he left a part of himself on cell during the fights.
Kars abilities are super dangerous if you give it more thought. He could probably turn into microscopic things, and even modify and invent new things he can turn into
dude there is a lot of speculations about Kars, he is pretty complicated
@@dreadfulcascade732 he's my favorite villian from jojo's
Majin boo in multiverse did something like that
I mean Kars could become a caterpillar and then feed off of Cell and use that dna to gain and use the dna to become a sayain or whatever Cell had in his dna
But still cell could beat him
*Sees title of video*
NOW WE'RE TALKING
I believe Cell wins if we go especially based on how strong cell is for equalized stats. Eventually, whether accidentally or because it seems itd be the only feasible thing Cell could do, Kars would be knocked out of orbit. This would especially be the case if we're talking just a shear deathmatch. If cell was brought down to Kars level, I'm not entirely certain.
Kars cant do shit in space
But if it was a fair 1v1, kars havea very high chance of winning
@@kevenagner69420 kars cant even destroy a country or cant breathe in space
@@Ca-ti8zm kars can upgrade his own cells to make them stronger, like evolve a tyrannosaurus cell and make his bite 1000x stronger
@@Ca-ti8zm kars hamon is stronger than the sun itself. He punches the ground full force with hamon? Ye planet EXPLODES. Also kars cant die. He can be defeated contained or whatever but its shown and explained he is immortal no damage can completely kill him.
@@Apaep12 Cell can just eradicate Kars’s cells to make him unable to regenerate, like how Gohan killed Cell. Also, keep in mind that Cell has full regeneration. Even if you leave the smallest atom behind, he’ll still come back alive.
We need more verse vs verse equal stats videos. It's pretty lame to see "the db power ceiling is higher than *insert anime here* so db characters instantly win. Doing the work of god right here.
Let's see Yujiro with equalized stats
The only anime character I can see beating literally every single anime he comes into contact with is Saitama. His power is literally to win in a single punch, nobody can beat that, not even Goku.
Plus the topic of equal strength makes no sense cuz cell is constantly evolving cuz of his saiyan, namekian makeup so i dont know bout that
@@NuclearRizzicist ....... are u one of those one punch man fanboys sucking saitama off bruh
@@NuclearRizzicist He didn't even beat Boros in a single punch, so your logic is already flawed.
But, question is can they deflect the Emerald splash or thunder cross split attack??
*NO*
@@yharim180 yes ;)
@@dreadfulcascade732 NO! ! !
@@dreadfulcascade732 no no no NO NO NO!!!
@Strike The Valstrax UTTP you tried to do something funny but it failed.
Love how you used the TFS solar flare
Fly sex
Lmao
What the duck is ‘The Fast and Serious?’
@@Stryfe52 The Fast and Furious
Hulls Colby The Obese and Belligerent
The strength of DBZ characters is insane.
And to think that cell is absolute fodder compared to current dragon ball
Dbz dookie
@@ijustbevibin0425 cry kid 💀
@@ijustbevibin0425 Cope,Seathe,Molde
Honestly this would end up becoming a fusion rather than a fight.
Cell just has so much going for him. Ridiculous levels of regeneration, zenkais, tons of energy attacks and the ability to survive in space.
@BIt lionhart 3 Cell is not an Earth nor Organic life form he's an Artificial and Extraterrestrial life form.
imagine cell abosorbed kars. he'lll be the greatest being
Yea but since Cell is a living organism, Kars would copy him. Its infinite
@@jax7267 no
@@jax7267 Cell is composed if 5 DIFFERENT ALEINS, kars could only copy things from earth like turning his hand into a flower or a butterfly
@@reese7625 i want to see where it says that he can copy only things from earth, i am almost pretty sure he can copy everything that lives
@@reese7625 ALEINS?
Kaleb I.A.: *keeps mentioning kars's durability*
Kars: DID YOU FORGET THE PART WHEN I SAID I WAS IMMORTAL?
there are different types of immortality.
Kars isnt immortal,he has regeneration
Cell can just destroy him on atomic level so he cant regenerate anymore
@@srnova9486 he is still immortal. Thats what I meant with different type of immortality.
We got immortality such as kars, which means he cannot die naturally then we got something like hidan from naruto who is literally incapable of dying.
@@danishblunt9698 Yeah,he cant die of old age and can regen
So you would need to destroy every cell in his body so he cant regenerate back
@@danishblunt9698
Naw dude if one is immortal then why have a regeneration factor. At best Kars can't die of old age or diseases since he's a vampire. But inflicting enough damage and he can die just like Cell.
Equal stats?
Guess it needed to be done as it would be over so quick without it.
*Kars copies Whis' DNA * *Rewinds time and does sneak attack *
@@jojotard5027 but if kars has the cells of every living being he would have cells cells gpku gohan ssj goku cells not angel cells cause ots not on earth
mark likes games cell is an android not a human, same to goku he’s a saiyan not a human so he couldn’t have cells of goku nor cell nor gohan
Star platinum The World But he can adapt to it similar to how hamon isn’t a living being from earth and is a energy that radiates from the sun but he could still copy it and even improve it by millions and how he’s able to copy the structure and abilities of outer world beings like how he’s able to incase himself in a shell made out of the same substance as meteor a rock from a different planet so I’m certain that kars could just copy cell’s abilities and and strength and multiply it by millions hell he could just hit cell with his hotter than the center of a sun hamon and avoid any further contact since cell would be incinerated by hamon destroying every cell in cell.
『Fizzy pop』 VEVO hamon is something completely different to getting cells from aliens and such, there is no way he could do that, cell isnt a human himself and is basically artificial life
I like that you used Teamfourstar's version of the solar flare
When is Kars vs. Shadow?
The Ultimate Lifeforms
Odviously kars wins because shadows strongest move is odvioisly gun and kars has beaten strohim which is litteraly gun man
@@randomgaming-br8nj nah bruh Shadow can use his chaos moveset
Shadow wins because he's as fast, if not faster, than Sonic. Sonic has been stated to be faster than sound and other times he's faster than light. I've seen power scales of Shadow that puts him at Planet, Star, Galaxy, if not Universe Level (in terms of power). Shadow should be able to beat Kars; however Kars is smarter, has Hamon as hot as the sun, and access to the line of evolution.
Idk who would win maybe kars but I feel like shadow would be INSANELY close to Winning
It wouldn't be a fight they would just stare at each other and admire the other's perfection
Perfect Cell: I have reached perfection
Kars: No I have
Super Perfect Cell: You were saying?
perfecter cell*
Ultimate Life Form Kars: No u
@@edunm4125 *the kars almost dies in lava*
Cell: oh yeah please continue
I shall now invalidate your arguments with novel kars. he has literally every stand but better
@@kosinparuchabutr4007 The fact that you had to bring up a non-canon version of Kars really says something about the strength of jjba verse
9:16 love how he uses the TFS version of him building the arena.
Jorge Joestar Kars: *chuckles menacingly*
Laughs in xeno Cell
a joke compared to novel kars
@@dreadfulcascade732 Jorge Joestar Kars has every stand ability, upgraded.
There's 36 of them
can you please chill with novel kars
I feel like when one character has to be debuffed to a level under their own universes leveling system, we know who the winner is already
It doesn't particularly always go that way. There are a lot of characters that would get their asses beat by Batman if you brought them down to his level. Hell a lot of characters in Dragon Ball would lose to Master Roshi if you nerfed them to his level because he's still one of the greatest martial artists in the universe, but is held back by being a human.
"I can't die it is impossible! Even if I self-destruct I will always come back!"
yea......think we got a winner
Kars can’t die either
@@rrrocky_15____ it was a joke......but ok
@@rrrocky_15____ actually he can just not shown in the show
@@rrrocky_15____ both can die in the same way: having all of their cells eradicated entirely. can't evolve if you don't exist
@Ryuuji Takasu weak
It took me a long minute to realize that they were in different animes...
Putting Kars against Cell is like watching a professional game of chess.
How this fight would go:
Cell grabs Kars and flies him to space.
Kars stops thinking
Lmao,that wouldn’t happen,Kara can survive in space,he just froze from air in him pushing out and in
@@unrivaledking56he survive but he can’t do anything and literally froze.
I still think that Kars can learn the basics of Ki control pretty quickly. It took him what, a few seconds to learn all of human language(s), and fighting styles? I think the longer the battle goes, Cell would get stronger, but Kars would quickly close the difference in ability to shoot energy beams and combat other abilities. Alternatively/additionally, would he have the JORGE JOESTAR novel Ultimate Stands?
Also, couldn't Cell potentially absorb any life form that Kars detaches from himself, gaining its energy, if not its abilities.
That's what I tought about kars too,like,nice kamehameha you got there,mind if I steal it and use it at it's maximum potential XD
there are three things to consider here: cell can NOT get progressively stronger throughout the fight, saiyans (and therefore cell) only get stronger when they recover from a near fatal injury.
secondly: upon reaching his perfect form, cell looses to ability to absorb other life forms.
third: cell doesn't have hamon, so as soon as cell throws a punch and touches kars, kars would just eat him and win.
@@windhelmguard5295 nope. Sayians in DBs are stated SO many times to get stronger during battle, especially in the TopP where Goku not only trough Zenkais but also fighting, got quantifiably thousands of times stronger. If not he got as strong as Android 17 in base, 17 could fight with Goku and VEgeta gainst Jiren competetively and because Androids dont get tired that would make base Goku at the end of ToP Blue kaioken times 20 lvl just troughout 48 minutes.
These mfs dont realise he isnt from Dragon ball meaning 0 ki + shoot him to space and cell wins
And he will finish him off with a kamehameha before kars gets to think or do shit
Damn, as much as I love Kars and how I'd like him to win, he can't beat a planet buster that can survive in space and regenerate from a single cell nucleus. The damage that the DragonBallZ characters can inflict is just too great. Cell could just, carry him into space and thats game.
1. He can live in space if he copied the water bear or if he just used esidesi blood but araki had to freeze him 2. Kars cant die 3. Kars can copy cell but stronger 4. Kars has an iq of 400
There would be no figjt it would be Kars copying cell-cell does the same-kars copies cell but stronger-cell catches up. They would do that for an eternity
@@hk-ex4gw 5. kars would just eat cell the moment they make contact because cell can't use hamon.
@@windhelmguard5295 cell would obliterate Kars and the entire solar system without touching him
@@hk-ex4gw he would not. he probably could, but that's not how cell fights.
@@windhelmguard5295 every if he punches him the moment he sees his arm gets fucking absorbed he won't just fucking straight dive into him for the rest of his body to be absorbed.
Everybody gangasta til they start talking mid way through and the look at the audience
Kalep I.A.: "This battle will be an evolving one."
The Battle: *Flippity Floppity your abilities are now my property.*
I’d argue that Cell’s regeneration alone makes him too much for Kars to deal with. We’ve never seen Kars regenerate at a level close to perfect Cell, and Kars really doesn’t have a way to fully vaporize Cell. Even with ki, Kars isn’t trained in any focused blast like a kamehameha that could defeat Cell’s regen. This was an obvious one tbh.
ye glad u see it
Also it should be taken into account that Cell can survive in the vacuum of space due to Freeza's cells. Kars can't so he can simply blow up the earth and then it's GG.
Your friendly neighborhood Black Knight Isn’t that because of the chi? It acts like a barrier between space and his body. I’m sure kars will pick up the technique like what he did with hamon.
@@zawwin1846 then anyone could, but thats not how it is
@@fellasmann Kars is alive in outer space, just comatose.
Next should be Giorno Giovanna vs Star Butterfly
Giorno Giovanna vs Joker from Persona 5
Well she lost all her magic so she gets stomped by golden experience requiem
Theory: Does Kalebs fanbase consist of 10 year olds?
why, why would this cross your mind? ger makes it so that you never do anything or never complete any of your actions be they voluntary/involuntary. can she bend reality or have on par strength w/ giornio?
@@Retarded_Ape In his defense before she lost her magic she could seriously put up a fight.
I think there’s two outcomes, depending on which Kars you use. With Cell vs. Part 2 Ultimate Kars, there might be a way for Kars to win if he acts fast enough and/or takes in Cell’s DNA, but it’s mainly going to be Cell. If we’re talking about Jorge Joestar Kars vs. Super Perfect Cell, there’s only four words to sum up the fight: Gold Experience Requiem Ultimate. Or D4C: Love Train Ultimate. Being able to copy lifeforms is one thing, but having the Stand abilities of every Stand user, especially the abilities that make him nigh invincible on top of his whole “can’t die” schtick, truly makes him the ultimate lifeform.
Kars gets every stand to ever exist even when it did not exist and is not in his universe?
There's one thing that can still beat Kars : THE EVIL CONTAINMENT WAVE
Kars can't survive in space, Cell can, Kars can't blow up the planet, Cell can. I think we all know where I'm going with this
Yeah eventually they’ll just ask each other why their fighting and then team up and destroy the universe.
"If you're not perfect, you aren't me."
Pretty much Ultimate Kars is screwed badly to do anything against Cell. The ultimate being is nothing compare to the perfect being.
... What if Cell absorb Kars? Would Cell become Ultimate Perfect? If so... GG EARTH AND ANY OPPONENT.
In any case, is more likely that Kars would absorb Cell, cell needs to suck with his tail, kars only needs to touch you
Perfectly Ultimate Great Cell?
@@grotus5549 Oh ok then, Jorge Joestar Kars vs Perfectly Ultimate Great Cell
Kara could mimic cells cells and his absorption is far better than cells
@@illusoghiaccio oh god
Imagine the thought of Kars learning ki blasts. Jesus that’s a nightmare
Speedwagon vs Kung Lao “Battle of the Hats”
The perfect being VS the being of perfection!
First form cell kinda looks like echoes when it was hatched from its egg I think tbh btw nice vid dude keep up the good work
It's almost as if Echos is an intentional reference or something...
@@GermanKinsmen I know that is sarcasm
Its also possible that if kars got his hands on cells genetic code he could use it to his advantage, which would make the battle much more interesting, perhaps allowing for kars to literally just atomize cell using his own attacks on a higher level or even use KI in ways that cell doesnt know of.
Only thing to note is that we really don't know what Kars's limits actually are apart from the fact that he technically can't actually be killed per-say. The way Joseph beat him was by managing to launch him into space, and even that didn't technically kill him, it just resulted in Kars being stuck in a near-earth solar orbit. Meanwhile, while Cell showed off far more tools, the tools he showed were his entire kit.
I feel that, at least in a straight 1v1 without any potential external factors, this fight ends in a stalemate, with Cell dominating but not really being able to finish off Kars, and Kars just not being able to do much permanent damage to Cell.
the guy who lost to a kid vs the guy who lost to the guy who is scared and likes to run away when scared (which happens often)
@Ivan Sakmn technically a kid not a baby.....
@Ivan Sakmn cell is actually also a kid kinda, kars is a dead man walking
The biggest disadvantage Cell has is that Kars Has a much higher Intelligence level compared to Cell which will go a LONG WAY at the beginning of the fight, giving Kars time to try and copy Cell. Cell would most likely also be at the disadvantage when the fight starts as Kars' fighting styles are very different to what he has seen before. The most important thing to note is that Cell could LEARN Kars moves if he used his SELF DESTRUCT, (as seen with the Instant Transmission.) Overall, I feel like this fight would MOSTLY be a tie/even match until Cell has had enough. On one last note Cell would probably not use his full power or even Super Saiyan when the fight starts, Cell is so arrogant that he would most likely go in at low power. That is all I have to say about this, overall, I think Cell Wins after a drawn out fight.
“very different from what he’s seen before” you know every opponent he’s faced are all master martial artists plus he has all of their dna so he had all their abilities including fighting abilities so that wouldnt really matter plus he has alien fighting techniques so i dont know what youre trying to say
@@sircartier3360 he's trying to say cell has never fought someone who can freely alter their body at will into different life forms
@@corvancook4249 lets be real, its irrelevant. Even at same power cell would low diff kars, there simply isnt a single thing kars can do against cell. Cell is a being that has all the DNA and experience fighting people while kars has 0 experience whatsoever. In dragonball we have seen weaker characters cause imense trouble for stronger characters because they simply had a better technique. Even at even strenght kars is way to inexperienced to do anything against cell, this has been shown very well in jojo when he got defeated.
I love that the cell clips Kaleb used were TFS cell
I love how your using Dbz abridged as the background for this video, makes me so happy
Could you do a series on Yu Yu Hakusho? I hear the use of the themes every now and again so I know you're a fan. Just wishful thinking I feel like it would be cool to hear your perspective on the show.
Awesome video, I agree with this video and pretty much no head cannon. You didn't really say anything like, "Oh, he could just copy everything cell does" Because that wouldn't make sense. That would be out of the JoJo multiverse. And you didn't say any head cannon about Cell either. GG.
Damn, I got a heart
Well he can obtain Cell's DNA, which at least sayian dna is similar enough to human dna to produce viable offspring. How would he obtain Cell's dna? Well, with how the mitochondria was obtained, or by an incredibly rare process in nature that bacteria sometimes do that adds the dna of their food to them. But, since Kars has such control he can purpously make this event occcur either way.
I don't have to use headcanon, just what life on earth can do, and since Kars has all of life under his belt, he can do it.
Kars: Finally a worthy opponent
Our battle will be legendary
Equilized stats is a preety good move considering Cell would normally just disintegrade him instanly. The guy is faster than sound stronger than a mountain and with minimal to no effort can destroy the Earth.
I would honestly give this victory to Kars. We all know how powerful Cell is. That is something most won't forget. The problem to that is while both of them are arrogant, but Kars has no problem taking a cheap victory. Kars can never get tired and cannot die, but Cell can get tired and die. While Cell has enough power to destroy the planet and solar system, he wouldn't go that far if he was pushed to that level of desperation, fear and anger.
If Kars managed to cut off one of Cells arm and absorb it, Cell would let him do it to test his power. He is that arrogant. Some would say Cell is made up of extraterrestrial dna, so it wouldn't be possible. I think it is possible because Cell does have human dna, and he is the ultimate life form. He has all the dna of every living being, and outperforms them.
Him absorbing Cell arm would take some time, but he can pull it since his body is on a completely different level of species, and his massive intelligence with thousands of years of living and experience. The crazy thing is, Cell would still let him do it. He let Z-Fighters train for a week to have the perfect challenge. So he would let that happen to get that perfect challenge from Kars.
The only way I can see this happening if Cell just blows up the planet without that care of a perfect challenge, survives in space and sees Kars turn to stone, and destroy said stone. Kars won't be dead, but his body would everywhere. If not, then it's just who can outlasts and get the upper hand on one another.
Kars win.
well cell can basicly grab kars use instant transmission to teleport him to space then come back and eventually kars will stop thinking
@Lachlan SINGH same
Remember, Kars has the ability of Wamuu with air thingies, as seen when he just got to space, so it's reasonable to assume he has all of Wamuu's abilities
Edit: It's reasonable to assume that he also has Esidisi's abilities too.
I don’t think that was holy sandstorm I’m pretty sure if you rewatch him in space he makes air vents to shoot out air which he thought would push him back to Earth.
Steve Mathew it was atmospheric rift
Ok so this is just my opinion so please don’t hate,
Cell has freiza and king colds cells which means he can just blow up the planet, and we all know how Kars went down- I mean up.
People are saying that Kars can just copy Cell’s cells to gain his abilities, well Kars has the genetic data of all of earth’a evolutionary line. I’m pretty sure that he can’t use the powers of extraterrestrial beings. Another thing is that Kars doesn’t copy the abilities of life forms, he’s using things he already has I think, so I don’t think he can just use Cell’s abilities.
The pillar men in general have a cooler theme tho.
This man actually be using the clips from TFS, 2:16 gave it away XDDD
Cell wipes the floor with Kars. Even at equal stats, but I do love me some Jojo’s bizarre adventures
Kars is completely immortal if I recall correctly, so the only way to defeat him is to render him helpless like Joseph Joestar did, or banish him to another realm like what the Z fighters did to Garlic Jr. who was also immortal. Cell can only be defeated if you destroy every cell in his body. They also both have a ton of abilities like Kars can literally create new life, not just kill. Ultimately yes I do think Cell would probably win because Kars has no way of destroying every cell, whereas all Cell has to do is either blast Kars out into the void of outer space or destroy the Earth or whatever other planet they are fighting on. But just to be clear, Kars would not die, he would just lose the fight. There is also the option of Cell defeating Kars the way Garlic Jr. was defeated. As far as how Kars could defeat Cell, well he could get Cell to self-destruct for an easy win, or get Cell vaporized by throwing him directly into the Sun, but it would be difficult for Kars to pull off the move of throwing Cell into the Sun and keeping Cell from changing his course. The main advantage Cell has over Kars is Cell can still function and fight in outer space while Kars is rendered useless in space. And Cell would have a much easier time than Joseph Joestar at getting Kars into outer space. But honestly I think the video exaggerates Kars’s weaknesses, Kars is pretty strong and impossible to fully defeat unless you wished away his immortality with the Dragon Balls or something like that. Or of course, one of the Grand Zenos could destroy either Cell or Kars very easily, no problem, with things like immortality being irrelevant to them because they have omnipotent power and can just undo the immortality with zero effort, they are able to destroy entire universes on just a whim.
Kars never prove to survive getting turn to dust
Kars: So it’s the same type of organism as me.
Cell: Wha-
Kars: **Goes SSJ3 Hamon Infused**
Damn, I anticipated a Collab with SethTheProgrammer
Ikr
Fuck no
This is quality dont sulley it with Trash
Don’t forget Kars got EVERY ability when he used the stone mask, that means he was more than likely got a stand ability and if he got Hamon 10,000 times stronger then Joseph’s Hamon at the time that means his stand would of been insanely powerful
If he really had a stand ability (or them all if you go by the letter), he probs could've just stopped time and fucked em up. but then again, he isn't very intelligent apart from the stone masks.
@@floofbirb4436 not every stand can stop time.
@@floofbirb4436 bruh how is kars not intelligent lol his IQ is 400
@@citcoin-official2681 I am aware. The thing is, he could out preform ANY creature. Therefore, if stands are an extension of humans, which are biological, then Kars would be able to use stand abilities.
@@123-o2r4n IQ refers to potential, not the average
So this truly is... the ultimate showdown
I started thinking about the fight, (Agree Cell takes this, You'd have to seriously stack the deck and wildly speculate to give Kars a chance.) But I think it would make an even better TFS Cell vs. episode. Specifically, Kars falls from space and lands next to Cell's arena. He regenerates from being a space rock, and then just lays there because he stopped thinking.
Still think there's a decent chance that with chi manipulation being a basic skill for some species such as saiyan and with kars' intelligence that he might be able to learn that as well
They would compliment each other forever.
Guys, guys, please.
We all know speeeeeeedwAgOoon claps both of them before fight even starts
Ik. He’d win a 2v1 easy
Cell “Some advice, Kars, for the future. Next time, why don’t you remember your place like the rest of them...and wait for Jojo.”
This was a cringe comment...
@@unrivaledking56 Well, aren’t you the epitome of wit. It’s a reference, genius.
So what about giorno with GER vs cells
Cell: can I beat you?
Ger: yes but actually no
(Edit: Ight since y'all is smart what about ascension dio vs cell)
Dio: **thanos snap**
(New edit: **looks at comment section**
Also me: *HOLY SHITTY SPAGHETTI* )
Cell ain't beating casuality manipulation, he gets stomped
Bro he would beat Zeno cell is fodder
P U C C I he wouldn’t cell is stronger and faster and i mean strength not that he can cancel rtz or stuff
Kaos YT i don’t even think ger has enough pure strength to faze cell in the slightest, cell would just heal anything off too.
Kaos YT can’t cell just blitz GeR and giorno before they can even try to do anything?
Keep in mind though, due to Joseph's tricksy fighting style, we never really got to see the full extent of Kars' Hamon. Melting Joseph was his "look what I can do with just a pinky-tap" thing. And if Kars had the Red Stone for further manifold amplification of Hamon, I think it could get to planet-busting tier. And we know from Joseph that Hamon's principle strength is usually its flexibility. And as a side effect of how Kars' attacks are primarily organic, that means that they are all also vectors for a Hamon attack.
At the least, I think he has a fighting chance. Good video though!
just cause he has the red stone doesnt mean his strength leaps that far planet busting isnt very special in dragon ball either, when vegeta first appears he’s destroying a planet, even kid vegeta was destroying planets for fun
@@sircartier3360 Ye, hence, "at the least, a fighting chance."
Kars was able to adapt Harmon. He would most likely be able to adapt Ki, but he wouldn’t be able to do much with it on account of his limited understanding (ie. when he got hamon he just kept ties to hit Joseph with it instead of channeling it through the ground or anything creative.
harmon
Plus he wouldn't really have much ki. He would have a lot of abilites but ki is kinda like having strength.
cell blows up the earth kars stops thinking
people seem to forget that Kars can simply absorb Cell just by barely touching him, and there is really nothing Cell can do about that. All pillarmen have the absorbtion ability, and hamon is the only known counter to absorbtion. Incase you believe that Kars would forget to use absorption, that's impossible. The pillarmen absorption ability is a subconcious ability demonstrated by Whammuu. Also, Kars has that 400 IQ. If Cell were to absorb him, he would be absorbed from the inside out by Kars. Kars potential is technically limitless. If cell wanted to, he could easily defeat Kars, but he would have to completely vaporize every last cell of Kars. Kars could also turn into perfect cell and beat him that way, but wether or not he would be able to use Ki, as Cell, is really up for the reader to decide.
Considering Kars has a 400+ IQ, limitless potential, imortality, etc, and was able to learn, and master hamon to the point that he created temperatures hotter than the surface of the sun, I wouldn't be suprised if he was able to master the ability to use Ki, and defeat Cell.
This.
@Nio37 yes in their universe but humans in jojo have hamon not the ki like in dbz
Nio37 but how will kars instantly know cell techniques or how do we know he will be more powerful than him, cell has the experience kars doesn’t the reason he knew hamon is because he fought clans that used hamon.
Nio37 you still haven’t explain how will he instantly know ki or cells techniques also you still haven’t explain how he learns to use hamon, it is because he fought hamon clans thousands of years ago
If Kars got to the level of perfect cell, wouldn't his hamon work like he was basically a living sun, which, would probably be able to chrisp up cell
Zayaan Mohammed he is pretty hot
@@maverick885 they're both hot, I think the Universe would blow up just from them making eye contact XD
And then Cell comes back
Kars Hamon is already at the level of the sun
Kars really can't do much, like you said
And no y'all, Kars can't copy Cell, that's not in his DNA bank :v
Cell, however, can totally absorb Kars
Kars can copy thing outside his dna bank. He can copy his cells with his super eyes and make them even stronger.
@@hk-ex4gw when has he done this ever
@@sircartier3360 "He can manipulate his entire body on a cellular level to gain the traits of any life-form." And kars literally saw joseph just use hamon and copied it so maybe he could see perfect cell using ki and copy that too.
@@dominator80053 kars has fought Hamon users for thousands of years so he's familiar with Hamon same can't be said for ki cell will smack him into orbit before cars could even process what happened
@@dominator80053 kars can only copy the Dna of EVERY creature that's ever lived in earth
End result: one awesome battle O.o it would be dope to see that animated
I think you forgot the fact that while cell gets stronger, he's also getting tired (That's why goku gave him a zensu bean). That wouldn't change much (cell would still probably win), but still that would add some "resistance factor", making th fight more interesting.