My friend hated him in Loki and I felt like I was missing something cause the whole plot was explaining variants and how he was different from the villain were getting but so many online missed it and hated on his acting. Add to that people like my friend said marvel is too jokey since endgame then they refused to watch black panther cause the villain changed ethnicity and body size wasn’t muscular etc nit picks. I think people are hard to please.
And deservedly so! DT is also right with their assessment that hes both the strongest and the weak point of the film, weak being hes too good to be in this film he feels out of place.
That's not saying much considering how bad everything else was. That said, he was mid. It never felt like I was watching Kang. It felt like it was JM in a costume making weird facial expressions, which made it hard to suspend disbelief. Completely miscast. MCU ruined Gorr, now Kang. I hope they don't do the same to Dr. Doom and Galactus.
Funny that you guys said that this movie feels like Honey I Shrunk The Kids ride at Disneyland because the director for that ride is indeed Payton Reed, the director of Ant man
@@darianlynch2687 MCU is overrated and they've meen slipping up this whole phase. I'm not naive to pretend that DCU will overtake them but I feel they'll put up more of a fight with Gunn at the helm. Don't forget that the jokey/quip nature MCU was influenced by Whedon & Gunn though given Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad, I feel he'll bring that blend of humour and dark serious tones that he's capable of. I'm still a fan of his pre- MCU film, Super. The Flash trailer actually seems pretty good. I hate Miller but Keaton was my favourite Batman and I'm hyped to see him dawn to cowl. It's still a carry over from the Snyderverse but Gunn said it was good.. but that's probably just PR speak. Well eventually see if he is right or just talking out of his ass.
I agree with the MODOK designs. Why they stretched his face out and called it a day instead of using the designs still baffles me. It looked off the moment I saw it in the trailer.
It's another case of "never wear your helmet" when it comes to these superhero movies. Most superheroes in superhero movies almost never wear their masks or helmets, and I never understood that. There hasn't been a single Wolverine movie where Wolverine's actually worn his mask, for example. M.O.D.O.K. in this movie actually looked cool with that faceplate that was reminiscent of how he looks in the comics. But once they revealed it was just Yellowjacket in a different form and showed his actual face from that moment forward, he got very silly to look at very fast.
@@yookeemookee The reason for that is because you have actors who either are big name and really good looking so they have to show their face for the star power or the director/actor is not confident in the ability to deliver a good performance if you cannot see the face.
People claim marvel formula but the switch it up with a main hero being a villain then black panther 2 being so somber. I think people just expect perfect or great or trash. That said we forget the movies always were just ok to fine. With a few outliners if you judge hard but for superhero movies post Batman forever etc they are great. Maybe to shake up the formula they make something like joker or wolverine last of us
What I credit Jonathan Major's portrayal as Kang in this film is how nonchalantly threatening he is as opposed to his other variant in the Loki series. Almost Vader esque.
I wanted to see Kang use his technologies more. It would have been cool watching him build his empire using his Tech. Like how does he construct those buildings so fast?
Dang, I KNEW Janet would just end up dragging shit out with secrets she just "didn't tell them". If the secret isn't somewhere near the level of "Alright, fine, Kang is my second husband, he's been giving me the quantum dong for 20 years" then I'm probably gonna be disappointed by what she's been hiding.
Its honestly sounding a lot like what I have been expecting. A lot of their gripes are the same ones I have with both other Ant-Man movies. Yeah, they are fun. Sometimes the comedy just keeps going and doesnt always get me. Honestly, I dont remember much about them other than I had an ok time watching them. I didnt put much thought into it but, obviously it would have to be all on green screen. Didnt hit me until I saw Michael Douglas on the red carpet talk about how different it was having to film in it. Unless its done well, it will hold back the actors. Then it becomes a movie that looks, wonderous but not much substance. Which then leads to Kang. It was weird seeing that he'd make his entrance in a Ant-Man movie. Im glad to hear though that he doesnt disappoint. I still love Marvel and get excited for everything new but I do find myself more and more missing the old crew. Right now there is no character like Iron Man, first Captain America etc that I cant wait to see again.
I still recomend checking out the show Avengers: Earth Mightiest Heroes. It has nothing to do with the MCU, but Its a fantastic show. Season 2 also has Krang in it and he is good in that too.
Man, I was really hoping this was gonna be the next Thor: Ragnarok. The trailers looked like it could give us a big threat, while using the humor from the first 2 Ant-Man movies.
14:36 Janet Dien:"A lot of back log I can't explain...stuff I must keep in the shadows...I can't really divulge...it's- it's...secre- KANG's MY PIMP- Ok?!!!"
Lovecraft Country. Awesome book... well good book. Lovecraft is hard, bc he created a literal genre so its like trying to ape off LotR. We saw how that went when they couldn't stick to the script. If u read the book, U KNOW why it was canceled, lol. All they had to do was stick to the book and do this crazy thing we did in the 90s.... adapt. NOT REIMAGINE, REWRITE, AND ON AND ON
It seems like the issue with Kang is very similar to the issues with Gorr. Gorr was an amazing villain that was completely undercut by the movie around him. It’s a shame to hear that Kang is similar.
I think that a lot of people who did NOT read the comics wondered how they would top Thanos who is a great character but comic fans were already thinking Kang or Galacticus. Personally I am happy they went with Kang.
@CarterSlade29 No I'm okay I prefer not to walk around hating everything about life which is what happens when you watch too much Nerdrotic. He gets paid to hate literally. And it's fine but just know thats his niche, and if you truly believe a guy that much in to comic books hates these movies that bad or is just saying it for camera thats a whole nother thing.
This was Thor L&T all over again for me. A skeleton of story with some solid ideas, needing so much punching up To me they clearly framed Janet and Kang having the relationship and the triangle with Hank not whoever Bill Murray was suppose to be (terrible unfunny cameo btw) and both of their arcs would've made much more sense and be relevant. I got the feeling they wanted to do the youth formula CGI with her in the flashbacks Majors was solid, I thought he nailed the pompous,histrionic but ruthless nature of the character and those two post credit scenes are pretty cool. Scott didn't really seem to have an arc and that was the biggest waste because I felt we could've gotten a solid dramedy from him a la Barry given the weight of the situation and/or his relationship with Cassie, because that little existential meltdown he had at the end was a good scene. The quantum realm felt way too interchangeable with something out of GOTG or Star Wars and they really should've pushed for a unique look and then those people's struggle was an afterthought. I felt if anything Cassie should've spent more time with them to establish them and William Jackson Harper was wasted in this High Rental
Well, to be fair, another big issue with the MCU, besides not having a focused big bad, and I’ve had this problem with black panther and Wakanda forever (though, I enjoy those movies): is the fact that the real human world stays the same, no matter what happens in these movies. Does Wakanda take a more direct approach in the African-diaspora? We don’t know, outside of Princess Nakia, being a teacher in Haiti… we don’t see anything. In this world of magic Black people, super, powered aliens and gods, does America catch up with the rest of the world and get universal healthcare, Reconstruction/Reparations for AfricanAmericans etc etc? I’m just saying, the Earth & human society always remains the same (as if these beings don’t exist at all. Which removes the point of you even seeing these movies). And with all of these distant planets in the MCU, unlike Pandora in the avatar series (though I don’t like those films’ narratives or “symbolism”), we never stay on them long enough to feel attached to said worlds.
To be fair the shows address it. Overall people consider super heroes cool and cosplay them. They are ok with she hulk walking around and think magic tricks are lame now that magic exist. Space travel needs to be addressed cause in real life if we heard ships exist that could do that we’d reengineer it. They seem to know time travel is possible as well. People in marvel seem to be branched off from our world and more comic like as in the things that freak us out and would end Society aka aliens existing evidence mean nothing to them.
They are in another universe. You should want to see strange creatures. Aliens.etc. It's so stupid that movie critics are complaining that it's looks different.
When Korey mentions that the Film Falls into a "Disney" formula, yes that is what these movies have been since they acquired Marvel has been their new Disney renaissance like what happened in the 90s. These films have become adventure comedies . The first movies of Aladdin, Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King were tend setting movies...then, the many sequels and other films started to follow this blueprint afterwards. There are différences but they usually follow the same pattern
Honestly, this movie deserved to be a one hour six episode series. They only had 2 hours to tell this story and it wasn’t enough. And I think, that’s the problem with a lot of the movies they put out post end game. But I get it. They need to make money.
Yea but all these critics (dt included) always complain about longer movies and shows. I despise when they do it because it's always from a personal view of "I don't have time to watch a 3 hour movie or all these episodes." It's so dumb, because you're right, when you get to spend more time exploring a character and the world they're in, it makes it so much more believable and easy to get lost In. It's one reason video games can be so successful, you spend 30 or more hours with these characters and exploring their worlds. I say make things as long or as short as the art requires, we shouldn't force them to cut things out just because dudes like Korey whine when they're long.
@HustleBones I didn't like or could take Ragnarok serious. They made Thor stupid, hulk a man child and jeff Goldberg was annoying. They butcher the characters
@@TimeMakerMan nah, I respect that but I still love Thor Ragnorok. Thor is funny in it but he’s not brainless. He was able to still jump from Ragnorok to Infinity War and be badass. Even when he was a big boy in Endgame, he went full Thor in the last hour. Thor L&T dropped him like 40 IQ points.
Janet's lack of explanation would have been better if she helped Kang conquer the QR. If she knowingly did some bad stuff that would have made sense, then she would have to deal with some real shame and have a redemption arc.
Everyone said Kang was great in this movie.I expect to love this movie from everything I've seen and as a person who enjoyed the first two Antmans I see no different than this one
Sure. I’m not saying Peyton Reed messed up Kang but the movie surrounding him is exactly what you expect from an Ant-man movie, silly and goofy and kinda dumb. I wish his first movie hit a little harder.
Went and saw this Thursday. I dunno if I'm just tired of super hero movies or what, but I was bored, I didn't enjoy the movie. The actors all seemed bored and it was like they just went down a checklist to make the movie. Maybe it's just me, I just couldn't sit through the whole thing. To me, it was no different from any other Marvel movie. My biggest issue was the horrible inconsistencies with Kang's powers. He was blasting the redshirts and vaporizing them, he used that same exact power on Cassie, Scott, and Hope, and they're barely phased by it. If powers can't be consistent, don't introduce them. If you don't want Kang one shotting the heroes with his disintegration powers, don't introduce them, and certainly don't show him disintegrating people seconds before he uses the same power on the heroes. I think this is the first time I've agreed completely with Martin about a movie. I remember thinking, "Is Kang Voldemort, where if you say his name he shows up and kills you?".
25:56 I think he has a point. But I think maybe the pandemic and the production schedule ended up throwing a wrench in things and eventually forced their hand into making this movie bigger than it should've been. And as you say, made this more of a set up film rather than a self-contained film that leads to another one.
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39:55 A lot of people have horrible taste🤷🏽♂️. Everything you guys said about this movie is exactly what I gathered from just watching the trailers and knowing how Marvel rolls.
For all the complaints "Wakanda Forever" received for being overly drawn out, I actually wish "Quantumania" had an extra 30 minutes or so itself. For a movie almost completely taking place in the Quantum Realm, I really didn't feel like I got to "live" in that world. The second the family gets there, they just step on the gas and move forward, never really allowing anything to set in, or even letting the characters themselves breathe. The character arcs established at the beginning of the film could've been something really interesting to play with, but ultimately those aren't really expanded on. With Scott kinda slumming it, being an author, and trading off his status as an Avenger, we really could've built to this great moment where he really is ready to make the ultimate sacrifice in the end. I was actually hoping that Scott & Hope remained stranded at the end of the movie; that would've been something different, and something that elevated its ending above not only its predecessors, but most other MCU movies. At the very least, the movie did a good job establishing Jonathan Majors' Kang (and his Variants) as a major threat moving forward. He was a force in this movie; hell, he felt like he was in another movie altogether. Majors and Michelle Pfeiffer were the MVPs of the movie for me personally. It's not a horrible movie; it's still enjoyable. But considering it was marketed as this major checkpoint in the Multiverse Saga, and the beginning of the next phase, the movie somehow felt both too ambitious, and yet too phoned in.
After Infinity Wars / End Game made an ungodly amount of money, the creators (OG writers and artists) of these iconic characters (who are shamefully paid squat and in some cases, just a pair of movie tickets) started to speak up about getting paid more, as they should. In response, Disney has been delivering garbage movies on purpose with god awful writing to destroy these characters and replace them with lesser known kiddie versions that Just don't require the same trademark and royalty payments.
It's funny when ppl say that a movie seems too focused on setting stuff up for the future. The whole phase four were a bunch of self contained movies & shows, yet everyone complained about those, saying they didn't seem connected & it wasn't clear what direction the MCU was going.
Seems like there are too many characters, too many quips - Antman and Kang should be the focus. Majors is a great actor, Rudd excels in his role - play to the strengths. I am hoping its the levity of Rudd's Antman vs the intensity of Major's Kang, but yeah every review seems to be cheering for Kang (great performance) and eyerolling at the rest.
@@metallicnole4514 Cool, I thought it was embarrassingly bad and a waste of a talented cast. I have zero desire to watch any more of the MCU movies, this isnt Marvel - George Lucas was right to call $DIS nothing more then white slavers. My wife and I dont know why we even have Disney+ any more, kid doesnt watch it and neither do we honestly.
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The obvious problem I'm getting from this review and all the trailers is that this film is visually indistinguishable from GOTG, Thor or Disney Star Wars. Same sense of fashion, same designs, same sky boxes, same set layouts.
Been looking at reviews all day, the opinions on this movie are real mixed. Going to have to check it out myself, & hopefully it's actually funnier then Thor love & Thursday because Thor 4 was terrible to me. I loved multiverse of madness so hopefully it's a long those lines of quality
Wasnt Bothered by the CGI....i wasnt feeling that they De-Powered this Kang, then they reduced the relationship of Kang and Janet as just friendly and professional....when he seemed to be bothered Janet did not tell her family about him annnnnd she's holding a secret like it was more but FREELY tells everyone about her sexual relationship with Bill Murray.
Seems Janet and Kang must have had something going on. There was nothing else to do FOR AGES, as they put that device back together. What did they even EAT living in that cave?
So basically the same as the last Thor movie, a villian that is calm and menacing with a tragic backstory thrown into a comedy? Like if Silence of the Lambs was a Laurel and Hardy movie.
It's a bit better at tone than Thor: LaT. I went in with low expectations and ended up enjoying myself for what it was. While it didn't make a massive impact on me, I can say that I wasn't bored at any point (unlike Thor).
Exactly. I enjoyed the movie well enough. Finally watched it today in theaters (03-09-23). I guess it's because I'm not a movie critic so I'm not gonna look too deeply into why this movie is good or bad 🤷♀. My only common gripes with these movies is them being over 2+ hours long & having those post credit scenes at the end 😒. But overall an enjoyable movie nonetheless.
I was officially done with Marvel after watching She-Hulk and Thor Love and Thunder. I gave Marvel a chance after Endgame, but the movies/shows that came after and undermined the events of infinity war and Endgame turned me off. Marvel's focus now is to make bad jokes.
To me this movie felt more like Tron legacy than Stars wars....It had similar plot points. Kang/Clu..He turned a realm that was meant to be his prison into his Kingdom. He's setting up the right pieces into motion so he can escape it....Bill Murray character/Zuse.....The flamboyant rebel that once fought with the resistance is now aligned himself with the enemy.....Scott and Cassie Lang /Kevin and Sam Flynn.....The over protective father over time had lost his will to fight. Also he has realized that the child he once knew is grown and capable of handling this on their own. Then there the rambunctious young adult that once idolized their father as a child. Due to unfortunately circumstances , the young adult has to grow up without their father for a period time. The young adult grew up to be rebellious and somewhat of a freedom fighter.... Only at the end, they realize that their father only wants the best for them and it still a lot they learn from him....Modok(Darren Cross)/ Tron......The antagonist brainwashed him to fight for his cause. Once he encountered the protagonist, he starts to remember who is once was. Then at the end, he helps protagonist in the fight against the antagonist. Hank Pym/Alan Bradley ...The surrogate father/ mentor to the young adult in the father's absence....Hope and Janet Van Dyne / Quorra.....She is the love interest , partner, and guide to the protagonist....The multi- verse transponder ( whatever Kang called it)/ Master Disc......The key that both the protagonist and antagonist fight for to escape the realm they are stuck in.........if I misspelled anything.... Sorry.....it's 2 in the morning
Just came back from watching it in IMAX. I don't feel anywhere near as negative as you guys do. In fact, I enjoyed it for the most part. Frankly, compared to Shang-Chi (which got a more positive reception from critics for some reason), this was great. Having said this, this is not a film that I would get into an argument to defend it.
Just came back today from it (03-09-23) and I basically feel the same way. An enjoyable movie nonetheless, but nothing worth getting into an argument over lol 😅.
I will say that I was surprised that they used Corey Stoll for modok and I was kinda hype to see him again. Cause he like a lot of the early marvel villains felt like a lot of wasted potential. Buuuut then some other stuff happened that echoed those past issues though :x hey it was nice for like the 3 people who wanted to see yellow jacket back including me lmao
Mark 35:20. Martin! I thought that to evaporate liquid, it had to set out for awhile. But to vaporize something, by converting it into energy vapor, is near instantaneous. 🤔
Sure the movie wasn't all that, but I found what I was looking for in it. Which was Kang. You all need to read up on Kang to understand why he will be a major villain going into this phase. Warned people the moment he appeared in Loki.
SPOILERS THEORY I think if they let the Banished Kang escape he would’ve killed all the other Kangs. Since they didn’t the other Kangs found out he died and decided to band together to conquer the timelines sooner than later. They may have to go back in time and Free/Not Kill the Banished Kang so he can kill the other Kangs.
Yup. People saying “this is why I don’t trust reviews” when this, Thor L & T and Thor Dark World, Eternals are the lowest reviewed movies in the MCU. 🤣
A huge plot hole no one has been talking about is that they were never stuck in the quantum realm. At least I’m pretty sure they weren’t since they have they ability to grow large so couldn’t they have left at any moment? Plus they have plenty of those disks that they throw to make things enlarge, and I’m pretty sure that’s what Ant Man used to escape the quantum realm in the first movie.
This was a weaker version since Kang has killed Avengers before but he has also been stuck in the quantum realm for a long time here so he can’t be the full power badass. Having so many varients of Kang is why he varies in power due to not all of them being the same as what universe they came from helps shape Kang.
Thor 4 lacked story for me. I have very similar taste with Korey. If he says this is similar to Thor 4, imma have to wait until this is convenient to watch.
Well I liked the movie. I mean, there was one part where Michael Douglas started explaining how the ants that went through the portal into the Quantum Realm became "hyper-intelligent" and built advance civilizations was a bit corny, but still, I liked it. Still it does ad for questions...like how were these civilizations existing in this mini-universe this whole time? I mean, in prior Ant Man Movies, you didn't see others in the Quantum realm. Plus, it was indicated in Avenger movies that Quantum realm's space-time was different from our, yet at the end of this move, when the characters returned to San Francisco, it seemed like not much time had passed. Yet in end game, when Ant Man was in the Quantum realm for five hours, five years had passed due to the Blip, so yeah there were holes like that, but other than that it was good
Im fairness to kangs introduction, thanos WAS introduced in the guardians movies, which to be honest with you always emphasized humour over the gravity of dealing with a being like Thanos. Hell, Thanos was even treated like a joke to a certain extent in the movies
The Guardians movies are a whole different animal, honestly. All the characters in the Guardians movies at least have chemistry and feel like they fit in. Ant-Man and his group honestly have never felt like they've had good chemistry. Half the time it feels like the people in Ant-Man's group hate each other.
*When it comes to the comparison between Thor 4 and Ant Man 3..... Thor 4's issue, in my opinion, was that the comedy was so fast and so constant you didn't get time to develop the more serious moments and I can see how that would frustrate some people. In Ant-Man 3, they give you time to breathe in between comedic beats. And there are some heartfelt moments that are still funny, but they're not obnoxiously funny... They're adorably funny, especially between Scott and Cassie. Jonathan majors absolutely steals the show with the scenes he's in, but It does not mean that the other actors aren't good in their roles. Jonathan is new blood, and we've already gotten to know the other Ant-Man cast. So of course he's really going to stand out, especially because he's such a good dramatic actor. I do agree with the criticisms around Janet though. I think she was the biggest issue with the plot simply because everything could have been avoided if she had just been honest.
Disney pushing Marvel for more money making movies. When Marvel was apart of multiple studios it had better movies. Compare Ironman 1 vs now or the Incredible Hulk.
I thought the comedy was good, and balanced well enough with the Film. While I thought "Love & Thunder" was trying too hard and too often with the comedy.
My thing about the movie was that either Antman would died or Kang would get killed along with Antman in a final act to save the universe. Was a bit disappointed the movie didn't have the balls to go that far but Kang was the highlight of the film
M.O.D.O.K looks like if they enlarged Vern Troyer like they did Peter Dinklage in Infinity War, I would actually rather them had casted Dink in That role. . .he has the head & look!
@@yookeemookee Yeah in Infinity War like I said. I would RATHER they had casted him as M.O.D.O.K. Eitri was a wasted throw away character on a great actor.
I agree while do think the movie could have and should have more time to delvouop all the characters in this movie especially the said characters and had a main mainly me wanting this to be a story about Scott and his daughter and how much time he miss with her I still think the movie wa alright kang was awesome I didn't mine Modok being the comedic character in the movie even I think they could have handled him a lot better in this movie comedic and character wise
@@p.c.v.m9999 The ending is what messed up modoks character. He wasnt really "bumbling" he was definitely a threat. Just not in front of kang. The character aspect I wasn't looking for going in so maybe that's why it didn't feel lacking for me. I was expecting this to be a ladder arc type movie and that's basically what it was.
I haven't seen it but I bet it isn't as bad as people are making it.What else can you do with a character like that and when he had the whole face mask down I think he looks terrifying
Dam! Koery just said "Marvel's got nothing" and I actually feel the same way to. This current phase of MCU films and TV shows has me tempering my expectations for Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
Likewise. As genuinely menacing as Kang may have been in this movie, I don't really see how they could possibly make him just as compelling as Thanos--if not more compelling than him--once they get to Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. Thanos was written in such a way that people actually agree with his plan and regurgitate his dialogue to this day. And I just don't see the same thing happening with Kang.
This news saddens me. The other Ant-Man films have been good. Maybe they just went too big with this one. At least Majors killed it as Kang but I expected nothing less.
i enjoyed it as well, it is taking an undeserved beating. True it is not perfect...not even close, I could not help at staring at the obvious green screen especially in scenes that featured Michael Douglas, but nonetheless I enjoyed it. for me atleast a 6.5 out of 10
@It aint no thing Disney kept saying how important this shitty movie was supposed to be. You guys are like weird abused apologists no matter how shitty the product you just keep consuming “hurr it not dat bad I know da last movies and shows lately have been donkey doo doo but at least it ain’t pig doo doo!” At this point you people just worship the brand
Man, I'm down at how little I'm looking forward to an MCU movie until mildly Cap 4 and more Thunderbolts A YEAR FROM NOW :( Guardians can't count as Gunn's always had more creative control of them then Marvel and they seem more disconnected from the MCU.
Nothing left. The disjointed Avengers, Secret Invasion ect is all leading to Kang conquering the world which will likely be mixed with Dark Reign or lead to it. And that’s even touching any potential storylines with Doctor Doom. And I don’t think Kang’s victory will be undone in the next movie. The Kang Dynasty will likely be the status quo for a full phase. IDK maybe because I read the comics I’m excited to where everything is leading. There’s still the threat of the Celestials as well.
I can still handle the Marvel formula even more so now that Disney and Sony finally delivered us Mandarin and Carnage in Shang Chi and Venom 2 2 years ago and they came through with bringing back the previous Spider-Man movie actors along with Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe), Doc Ock (Alfred Molina), Sandman (Thomas Haden Church), Lizard (Rhys Ifans), and Electro (Jamie Foxx). DC, not likely after pulling the plug on Henry Cavill.
I’ve trusted DT for years regarding their reviews and they’ve never disappointed. So, I’ll take their word on it. I had a feeling this movie wasn’t that good, especially with the narrative pushed of Kang being better than Thanos.
Already seeing MCU stans on twitter defending this movie despite having actually watched it. They're going into the movie with their mind made up that they're gonna love it and anyone who says otherwise is a hater. Disney favourite type of consumer.
The difference between comic fans who go to the shops on Wednesday compared to MCU stans is so odd. Comic fans have no issue eviscerating a series if it’s not living up to a character’s potential, like Zeb Well’s Spider-Man right now. But MCU Stans become incapable of criticism at times. Comic fans pointed out how Gorr was done dirty, especially compared to his plot in Saga of the God Butcher, and MCU Stans defended it constantly. You can point out how a film didn’t live up to its potential without saying other MCU films are mediocre.
@@Emoney-hy2kn because MCU is NOT the comics ?Gorr served his purpose in the story the movie was telling ?Why the fuck even compare something to the comics ,when the story in the comics was completely different ?Thats like the biggest and utter dumbest crap ever !LMAO !😂
@@Emoney-hy2kn Agreed. The stans are so emotionally attached to Disney now to the point that they take any sort of criticism toward a show/movie as an attack on them personally. They fail to see that criticism can actually be a good thing in the long run. It allows the product to grow and become better over time. If a company see's that they can put minimal effort into creating good art but will still be profitable they will continue to do so. It's the same problem we see with some AAA gaming studios lately.
That "thank you Spiderman" was a wish version of Stan Lee
@Budgie Cat I think Gunn actually did that, they just didn't film that many of them before he passed unfortunately
@Budgie Cat They already used them all
Modok looks like George Lopez as Mr. Electric in Sharkboy & Lavagirl
Facts....this comment needs a side by side
@@Kay0Bot fax, dis 1 need a POV 2
I would have liked George Lopez as MODOK that would have been great
How dare you insult Mr. Electric like that 😂
Modok looks like the scorpion king from the mummy returns (2001)
A lot of the reviews are giving the most praise to Jonathan Majors as Kang
And all you heard was the hate he received in Loki when they were telling you he was only a variant
My friend hated him in Loki and I felt like I was missing something cause the whole plot was explaining variants and how he was different from the villain were getting but so many online missed it and hated on his acting. Add to that people like my friend said marvel is too jokey since endgame then they refused to watch black panther cause the villain changed ethnicity and body size wasn’t muscular etc nit picks. I think people are hard to please.
And deservedly so! DT is also right with their assessment that hes both the strongest and the weak point of the film, weak being hes too good to be in this film he feels out of place.
@@nichescenesSounds like your friend has went down the reactionary anti sjw route.
That's not saying much considering how bad everything else was. That said, he was mid. It never felt like I was watching Kang. It felt like it was JM in a costume making weird facial expressions, which made it hard to suspend disbelief. Completely miscast. MCU ruined Gorr, now Kang. I hope they don't do the same to Dr. Doom and Galactus.
Funny that you guys said that this movie feels like Honey I Shrunk The Kids ride at Disneyland because the director for that ride is indeed Payton Reed, the director of Ant man
Wow, are you serious?
They knew what they were doing.
I think the MCU is starting to run out of steam and the DCCU is starting to catch up!
@@coreypack Nah I wouldn’t say all of that. DC is still trash can water lol.
@@darianlynch2687 MCU is overrated and they've meen slipping up this whole phase.
I'm not naive to pretend that DCU will overtake them but I feel they'll put up more of a fight with Gunn at the helm. Don't forget that the jokey/quip nature MCU was influenced by Whedon & Gunn though given Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad, I feel he'll bring that blend of humour and dark serious tones that he's capable of. I'm still a fan of his pre- MCU film, Super.
The Flash trailer actually seems pretty good. I hate Miller but Keaton was my favourite Batman and I'm hyped to see him dawn to cowl. It's still a carry over from the Snyderverse but Gunn said it was good.. but that's probably just PR speak. Well eventually see if he is right or just talking out of his ass.
I agree with the MODOK designs. Why they stretched his face out and called it a day instead of using the designs still baffles me. It looked off the moment I saw it in the trailer.
Man… and it’s probably too late for a redesign. I was looking forward to a really cool version of him.
It's another case of "never wear your helmet" when it comes to these superhero movies. Most superheroes in superhero movies almost never wear their masks or helmets, and I never understood that. There hasn't been a single Wolverine movie where Wolverine's actually worn his mask, for example. M.O.D.O.K. in this movie actually looked cool with that faceplate that was reminiscent of how he looks in the comics. But once they revealed it was just Yellowjacket in a different form and showed his actual face from that moment forward, he got very silly to look at very fast.
@@yookeemookee The reason for that is because you have actors who either are big name and really good looking so they have to show their face for the star power or the director/actor is not confident in the ability to deliver a good performance if you cannot see the face.
Humpty dumpty
I always felt that having Kang in an Ant Man movie felt kind of weird. If anything, he should’ve been introduced in the Doctor Strange MoM movie
SOOOO TRUE! Seeing Jonathan Majors as Kang interacting with Benedict Cumberbatch and Elizabeth Olsen would have been awesome and amazing
Such a waste
Dang kang
That would of been cool, but I still loved seeing evil Scarlet witch.
People claim marvel formula but the switch it up with a main hero being a villain then black panther 2 being so somber. I think people just expect perfect or great or trash. That said we forget the movies always were just ok to fine. With a few outliners if you judge hard but for superhero movies post Batman forever etc they are great. Maybe to shake up the formula they make something like joker or wolverine last of us
What I credit Jonathan Major's portrayal as Kang in this film is how nonchalantly threatening he is as opposed to his other variant in the Loki series. Almost Vader esque.
I wanted to see Kang use his technologies more. It would have been cool watching him build his empire using his Tech. Like how does he construct those buildings so fast?
The way she kept avoiding talking about what happened, I thought Michelle Pfeiffer let Kang hit it.
Yup would have given the relationship with Kang more depth. Instead they brought in Bill Murray for a one and done scene.
Dang, I KNEW Janet would just end up dragging shit out with secrets she just "didn't tell them".
If the secret isn't somewhere near the level of "Alright, fine, Kang is my second husband, he's been giving me the quantum dong for 20 years" then I'm probably gonna be disappointed by what she's been hiding.
The quantum WHAT?! 😂😂
Ah. You were disappointed then.
@@totallytubular8760 Kang doesn't just conquer people with energy blasts... He has a secret weapon!
She could’ve had Kang’s and decided to settle for a Septuagenarian’s instead..
Jonathan Majors is badass as Kang the Conqueror, he is like the "Denzel Washington" of MCU.
I got Forest Whitaker vibes from him.
All Black folks don’t look a like…..
Scott Lang got serious when Kang threatened Cassie
I love how "watch on streaming service" is the new rental lol
Corey’s transition into a sponsored segment got me dying 😂😂😂😂
Quantumania feels like two movies shoved into one. Both would be good on their own but together the tone shift is way too noticeable.
Totally I thought half was Star Trek, the TV show when they explore... then the freedom fighting part was like Star Wars Episode 4 or 6
Its honestly sounding a lot like what I have been expecting. A lot of their gripes are the same ones I have with both other Ant-Man movies. Yeah, they are fun. Sometimes the comedy just keeps going and doesnt always get me. Honestly, I dont remember much about them other than I had an ok time watching them.
I didnt put much thought into it but, obviously it would have to be all on green screen. Didnt hit me until I saw Michael Douglas on the red carpet talk about how different it was having to film in it. Unless its done well, it will hold back the actors. Then it becomes a movie that looks, wonderous but not much substance.
Which then leads to Kang. It was weird seeing that he'd make his entrance in a Ant-Man movie. Im glad to hear though that he doesnt disappoint. I still love Marvel and get excited for everything new but I do find myself more and more missing the old crew. Right now there is no character like Iron Man, first Captain America etc that I cant wait to see again.
I still recomend checking out the show Avengers: Earth Mightiest Heroes. It has nothing to do with the MCU, but Its a fantastic show. Season 2 also has Krang in it and he is good in that too.
ruclips.net/video/ZqRC9QcXh-k/видео.html
100% agree big time
Krang crossed over from TMNT? 😅
Literally. I’m a dc fan but Avengers earth mightiest heroes is the best marvel universe. Sad that Disney took over and cancelled it. Love the show
@@KingKhupacabra That show was awesome
I was afraid they would make Kang funny or he would feel out of place with the rest of the movie.
You mean like how Ultron turned out?
Just walked out. Kang is going to be a great serious villain. They got the villain casting perfect
@@JazzyReShawn ultron was a great movie, this movie was tuurash
Man, I was really hoping this was gonna be the next Thor: Ragnarok. The trailers looked like it could give us a big threat, while using the humor from the first 2 Ant-Man movies.
I honestly think it does. While it has its issues i don’t think it’s as bad as they’re making it. It’s still and enjoyable movie
14:36 Janet Dien:"A lot of back log I can't explain...stuff I must keep in the shadows...I can't really divulge...it's- it's...secre- KANG's MY PIMP- Ok?!!!"
he's been great since the lovecraft country series... this dude's killing it
Lovecraft Country. Awesome book... well good book. Lovecraft is hard, bc he created a literal genre so its like trying to ape off LotR. We saw how that went when they couldn't stick to the script. If u read the book, U KNOW why it was canceled, lol. All they had to do was stick to the book and do this crazy thing we did in the 90s.... adapt. NOT REIMAGINE, REWRITE, AND ON AND ON
I hear he did really well in a movie called Magazine Dreams, coming out later in the year. That's the movie I want to see with him.
Yea , I been watching films he has been in, very good actir
I like Jonathan Majors in this but I'm gonna love him in Creed 3
How you know? He was giving off Mike Tyson vibes so maybe that's why he'll be liked or loved
I'm looking forward to Creed 3
Magazine dream
It seems like the issue with Kang is very similar to the issues with Gorr. Gorr was an amazing villain that was completely undercut by the movie around him. It’s a shame to hear that Kang is similar.
At least Kang is going to be in the next two Avengers movies. Gorr was just wasted.
@@michaelstrong5383 I disagree
@@michaelstrong5383 Kang will probably be in Loki season 2
Agreed. He just felt so out of place when the other 2 Ant-Man movies were so relatable to the humor they were putting out.
The whole movie was dope tho 🤷🏽♀️ so this isn’t a Thor 4 situation. You should see it.
I think that a lot of people who did NOT read the comics wondered how they would top Thanos who is a great character but comic fans were already thinking Kang or Galacticus.
Personally I am happy they went with Kang.
Galactus.
Apparently Galactus will be the final villain in the last few phases.
@@blakeharris58 Makes sense, he is one of the biggest threats, they do wise to build up to him for a grand final phase.
@CarterSlade29 No I'm okay I prefer not to walk around hating everything about life which is what happens when you watch too much Nerdrotic. He gets paid to hate literally. And it's fine but just know thats his niche, and if you truly believe a guy that much in to comic books hates these movies that bad or is just saying it for camera thats a whole nother thing.
@@Byronic19134 well said
This was Thor L&T all over again for me. A skeleton of story with some solid ideas, needing so much punching up
To me they clearly framed Janet and Kang having the relationship and the triangle with Hank not whoever Bill Murray was suppose to be (terrible unfunny cameo btw) and both of their arcs would've made much more sense and be relevant. I got the feeling they wanted to do the youth formula CGI with her in the flashbacks
Majors was solid, I thought he nailed the pompous,histrionic but ruthless nature of the character and those two post credit scenes are pretty cool.
Scott didn't really seem to have an arc and that was the biggest waste because I felt we could've gotten a solid dramedy from him a la Barry given the weight of the situation and/or his relationship with Cassie, because that little existential meltdown he had at the end was a good scene.
The quantum realm felt way too interchangeable with something out of GOTG or Star Wars and they really should've pushed for a unique look and then those people's struggle was an afterthought.
I felt if anything Cassie should've spent more time with them to establish them and William Jackson Harper was wasted in this
High Rental
Well, to be fair, another big issue with the MCU, besides not having a focused big bad, and I’ve had this problem with black panther and Wakanda forever (though, I enjoy those movies): is the fact that the real human world stays the same, no matter what happens in these movies. Does Wakanda take a more direct approach in the African-diaspora? We don’t know, outside of Princess Nakia, being a teacher in Haiti… we don’t see anything. In this world of magic Black people, super, powered aliens and gods, does America catch up with the rest of the world and get universal healthcare, Reconstruction/Reparations for AfricanAmericans etc etc? I’m just saying, the Earth & human society always remains the same (as if these beings don’t exist at all. Which removes the point of you even seeing these movies). And with all of these distant planets in the MCU, unlike Pandora in the avatar series (though I don’t like those films’ narratives or “symbolism”), we never stay on them long enough to feel attached to said worlds.
To be fair the shows address it. Overall people consider super heroes cool and cosplay them. They are ok with she hulk walking around and think magic tricks are lame now that magic exist. Space travel needs to be addressed cause in real life if we heard ships exist that could do that we’d reengineer it. They seem to know time travel is possible as well. People in marvel seem to be branched off from our world and more comic like as in the things that freak us out and would end Society aka aliens existing evidence mean nothing to them.
This was what the shows were showing.
35:35 KOREY FINALLY ADMITS IT.
He loves his mother-in-law
Kang was absolutely fantastic in this movie!!!
Agreed
They are in another universe. You should want to see strange creatures. Aliens.etc.
It's so stupid that movie critics are complaining that it's looks different.
One of them is literally a broccoli headed guy in a suit that's just stupid 🤦🏾♂️
The superhero can talk to Ants.
>Ant Man and The Wasp: Quantumania has a 53% of Rotten Tomatoes
DC Fans right now;
“First time?” 😏
**Eternals fans too. That one has a 47% avg.
@@CrowTRobot Black Adam has a lower score than both those two
@@mrstrangeworld5977 black Adam was awful
Glad to hear we got a cool villain, especially it being Kang, I’m glad he’s living up to the hype
Jonathan was incredible but the script did not help Kang The Conqueror
Kang isn't fucking black
@@MRGooodwineTV Well we know who the racist crying white guy is in the comments
Nah. They ruined Kang right out of the gate just like they ruined Gorr. Too many MCU fumbles in a row.
@@MRGooodwineTV well he is now! Go cry lol
Majors gave me a lot of Forest Whitaker vibes here. His speech patterns and movements.
When Korey mentions that the Film Falls into a "Disney" formula, yes that is what these movies have been since they acquired Marvel has been their new Disney renaissance like what happened in the 90s. These films have become adventure comedies .
The first movies of Aladdin, Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King were tend setting movies...then, the many sequels and other films started to follow this blueprint afterwards. There are différences but they usually follow the same pattern
good comparison
Honestly, this movie deserved to be a one hour six episode series. They only had 2 hours to tell this story and it wasn’t enough.
And I think, that’s the problem with a lot of the movies they put out post end game. But I get it. They need to make money.
Yea but all these critics (dt included) always complain about longer movies and shows. I despise when they do it because it's always from a personal view of "I don't have time to watch a 3 hour movie or all these episodes." It's so dumb, because you're right, when you get to spend more time exploring a character and the world they're in, it makes it so much more believable and easy to get lost In. It's one reason video games can be so successful, you spend 30 or more hours with these characters and exploring their worlds. I say make things as long or as short as the art requires, we shouldn't force them to cut things out just because dudes like Korey whine when they're long.
It’s funny that thor was a serious film turned into a comedy and now antman was a comedy turned into a serious film
Taika can usually nail comedy, Thor L&T was a sad exception. Peyton Reed did Yes Man and Bring It On. Maybe a dark Avengers movie isn’t his thing 😬
@HustleBones I didn't like or could take Ragnarok serious. They made Thor stupid, hulk a man child and jeff Goldberg was annoying. They butcher the characters
Ant man 3 really isn't any more serious lol
@@BigBlockChoc1 nope. It tries to be, it pretends it is, but it’s still a Peyton Reed Ant-man comedy.
@@TimeMakerMan nah, I respect that but I still love Thor Ragnorok. Thor is funny in it but he’s not brainless. He was able to still jump from Ragnorok to Infinity War and be badass. Even when he was a big boy in Endgame, he went full Thor in the last hour. Thor L&T dropped him like 40 IQ points.
Janet's lack of explanation would have been better if she helped Kang conquer the QR. If she knowingly did some bad stuff that would have made sense, then she would have to deal with some real shame and have a redemption arc.
I wanted this to be better than the first two Ant-man movies. I’m hopeful that a different director will make better use of Kang or his variants.
Everyone said Kang was great in this movie.I expect to love this movie from everything I've seen and as a person who enjoyed the first two Antmans I see no different than this one
Sure. I’m not saying Peyton Reed messed up Kang but the movie surrounding him is exactly what you expect from an Ant-man movie, silly and goofy and kinda dumb. I wish his first movie hit a little harder.
Kang isn't the problem, it's just that everyone around him undercuts him with silly and dumb jokes.
Korey never enjoys ant man. His powers seem good to me in real life he’d be great.
@@eduardopantoja9115 do they though? None of this dialogue was really cut off with humor
I feel like Martin is extra nice to Julian cause korey picks on him lol
This movie did for me what a lot of phase 4 didn't, it made me feel hyped up when the action was happening.
Wish I could say the same, but I can't
Went and saw this Thursday. I dunno if I'm just tired of super hero movies or what, but I was bored, I didn't enjoy the movie. The actors all seemed bored and it was like they just went down a checklist to make the movie.
Maybe it's just me, I just couldn't sit through the whole thing. To me, it was no different from any other Marvel movie.
My biggest issue was the horrible inconsistencies with Kang's powers. He was blasting the redshirts and vaporizing them, he used that same exact power on Cassie, Scott, and Hope, and they're barely phased by it.
If powers can't be consistent, don't introduce them. If you don't want Kang one shotting the heroes with his disintegration powers, don't introduce them, and certainly don't show him disintegrating people seconds before he uses the same power on the heroes.
I think this is the first time I've agreed completely with Martin about a movie. I remember thinking, "Is Kang Voldemort, where if you say his name he shows up and kills you?".
Jonathan Majors as Kang gives off the same vibe as Darth Vader.
25:56
I think he has a point. But I think maybe the pandemic and the production schedule ended up throwing a wrench in things and eventually forced their hand into making this movie bigger than it should've been. And as you say, made this more of a set up film rather than a self-contained film that leads to another one.
I was watching this an hour ago and somehow it slipped into the DCU's Flash review 🤣
Kang is truly powerful boy I tell ya
He alters timelines faster than Flash 🤣
Hehe you too huh. The Multiverse is messing up
First video I've ever seen from this channel and y'all got me hollering 😂😭 Still excited to see this with my lil bro Friday for Kang, my expectations couldn't be any lower. MODOP needs to become a meme 😆😆
Check out some of their reviews, especiaply Bad Movie Reviews, they are hilarious together
Enjoy the binge watch. I enjoy watching double toasted shitting on bad horror films.
@@Smokey1419 I was just about to say that. It’s so many hilarious reviews on here, get ready lol.
As a fellow black man, I can tell you that this channel is an oasis in a youtube desert.
You should watch their old videos and subscribe if you like them.
Welcome to the club 🎉
39:55 A lot of people have horrible taste🤷🏽♂️. Everything you guys said about this movie is exactly what I gathered from just watching the trailers and knowing how Marvel rolls.
They are saying exactly what i feared. I feel like this movie is just a long commercial for the next movies
@@DeeSee25that’s exactly what this movie is lol
It’s really not.
For all the complaints "Wakanda Forever" received for being overly drawn out, I actually wish "Quantumania" had an extra 30 minutes or so itself. For a movie almost completely taking place in the Quantum Realm, I really didn't feel like I got to "live" in that world. The second the family gets there, they just step on the gas and move forward, never really allowing anything to set in, or even letting the characters themselves breathe. The character arcs established at the beginning of the film could've been something really interesting to play with, but ultimately those aren't really expanded on. With Scott kinda slumming it, being an author, and trading off his status as an Avenger, we really could've built to this great moment where he really is ready to make the ultimate sacrifice in the end. I was actually hoping that Scott & Hope remained stranded at the end of the movie; that would've been something different, and something that elevated its ending above not only its predecessors, but most other MCU movies. At the very least, the movie did a good job establishing Jonathan Majors' Kang (and his Variants) as a major threat moving forward. He was a force in this movie; hell, he felt like he was in another movie altogether. Majors and Michelle Pfeiffer were the MVPs of the movie for me personally. It's not a horrible movie; it's still enjoyable. But considering it was marketed as this major checkpoint in the Multiverse Saga, and the beginning of the next phase, the movie somehow felt both too ambitious, and yet too phoned in.
After Infinity Wars / End Game made an ungodly amount of money, the creators (OG writers and artists) of these iconic characters (who are shamefully paid squat and in some cases, just a pair of movie tickets) started to speak up about getting paid more, as they should.
In response, Disney has been delivering garbage movies on purpose with god awful writing to destroy these characters and replace them with lesser known kiddie versions that Just don't require the same trademark and royalty payments.
It's funny when ppl say that a movie seems too focused on setting stuff up for the future. The whole phase four were a bunch of self contained movies & shows, yet everyone complained about those, saying they didn't seem connected & it wasn't clear what direction the MCU was going.
Seems like there are too many characters, too many quips - Antman and Kang should be the focus. Majors is a great actor, Rudd excels in his role - play to the strengths. I am hoping its the levity of Rudd's Antman vs the intensity of Major's Kang, but yeah every review seems to be cheering for Kang (great performance) and eyerolling at the rest.
Seems like they wasted MODOK
I personally enjoyed the movie. I had fun
@@metallicnole4514 Cool, I thought it was embarrassingly bad and a waste of a talented cast. I have zero desire to watch any more of the MCU movies, this isnt Marvel - George Lucas was right to call $DIS nothing more then white slavers. My wife and I dont know why we even have Disney+ any more, kid doesnt watch it and neither do we honestly.
I’m a 27 year-old aspiring entertainment journalist and supporting actor with Cerebral Palsy. I want to book work for Pepsi commercials and family movies like Ghostbusters 3: Afterlife, Sonic The Hedgehog 2, and Toy Story. Seeing Johnathan Majors achieve his rise to fame by booking four movies in two years at just 33 years old gives me a sense of peace and confidence. Nobody failed at life because they didn’t achieve their dreams by the time they were 23 years old. I earned my Associate’s Degree from Massasoit Community College when I was 25 years old. I’ve finished 16 acting classes in 6 years and I’m currently finishing up my Bachelor’s Degree in Film and Video Arts Production from Bridgewater State University. Being persistent about my career is what makes it all worth the wait.
Dozed off multiple times watching this movie. One dude in the theater was snoring .
The obvious problem I'm getting from this review and all the trailers is that this film is visually indistinguishable from GOTG, Thor or Disney Star Wars. Same sense of fashion, same designs, same sky boxes, same set layouts.
Been looking at reviews all day, the opinions on this movie are real mixed. Going to have to check it out myself, & hopefully it's actually funnier then Thor love & Thursday because Thor 4 was terrible to me. I loved multiverse of madness so hopefully it's a long those lines of quality
Watch it for yourself. I'll watch it online and if I like it I'll spend some money.
I feel the same way.
Wasnt Bothered by the CGI....i wasnt feeling that they De-Powered this Kang, then they reduced the relationship of Kang and Janet as just friendly and professional....when he seemed to be bothered Janet did not tell her family about him annnnnd she's holding a secret like it was more but FREELY tells everyone about her sexual relationship with Bill Murray.
Seems Janet and Kang must have had something going on. There was nothing else to do FOR AGES, as they put that device back together. What did they even EAT living in that cave?
So basically the same as the last Thor movie, a villian that is calm and menacing with a tragic backstory thrown into a comedy? Like if Silence of the Lambs was a Laurel and Hardy movie.
It's a bit better at tone than Thor: LaT. I went in with low expectations and ended up enjoying myself for what it was. While it didn't make a massive impact on me, I can say that I wasn't bored at any point (unlike Thor).
@@rawalshadab3812 Sweet, thanks for the feedback.
I enjoyed the movie. Halfway through, I'm like, "When does it start to suck?"
Exactly. I enjoyed the movie well enough. Finally watched it today in theaters (03-09-23). I guess it's because I'm not a movie critic so I'm not gonna look too deeply into why this movie is good or bad 🤷♀. My only common gripes with these movies is them being over 2+ hours long & having those post credit scenes at the end 😒. But overall an enjoyable movie nonetheless.
I was officially done with Marvel after watching She-Hulk and Thor Love and Thunder. I gave Marvel a chance after Endgame, but the movies/shows that came after and undermined the events of infinity war and Endgame turned me off. Marvel's focus now is to make bad jokes.
They were always heavy handed with the jokes before and I hated it but now they are far worse. I think the Russos balanced the humor the best.
To me this movie felt more like Tron legacy than Stars wars....It had similar plot points. Kang/Clu..He turned a realm that was meant to be his prison into his Kingdom. He's setting up the right pieces into motion so he can escape it....Bill Murray character/Zuse.....The flamboyant rebel that once fought with the resistance is now aligned himself with the enemy.....Scott and Cassie Lang /Kevin and Sam Flynn.....The over protective father over time had lost his will to fight. Also he has realized that the child he once knew is grown and capable of handling this on their own. Then there the rambunctious young adult that once idolized their father as a child. Due to unfortunately circumstances , the young adult has to grow up without their father for a period time. The young adult grew up to be rebellious and somewhat of a freedom fighter.... Only at the end, they realize that their father only wants the best for them and it still a lot they learn from him....Modok(Darren Cross)/ Tron......The antagonist brainwashed him to fight for his cause. Once he encountered the protagonist, he starts to remember who is once was. Then at the end, he helps protagonist in the fight against the antagonist. Hank Pym/Alan Bradley ...The surrogate father/ mentor to the young adult in the father's absence....Hope and Janet Van Dyne / Quorra.....She is the love interest , partner, and guide to the protagonist....The multi- verse transponder ( whatever Kang called it)/ Master Disc......The key that both the protagonist and antagonist fight for to escape the realm they are stuck in.........if I misspelled anything.... Sorry.....it's 2 in the morning
Just came back from watching it in IMAX. I don't feel anywhere near as negative as you guys do. In fact, I enjoyed it for the most part. Frankly, compared to Shang-Chi (which got a more positive reception from critics for some reason), this was great. Having said this, this is not a film that I would get into an argument to defend it.
Just came back today from it (03-09-23) and I basically feel the same way. An enjoyable movie nonetheless, but nothing worth getting into an argument over lol 😅.
I wish Chris Rock could cast Jonathan Majors in a remake of one of his best movies ever; Pootie Kang.
I will say that I was surprised that they used Corey Stoll for modok and I was kinda hype to see him again. Cause he like a lot of the early marvel villains felt like a lot of wasted potential. Buuuut then some other stuff happened that echoed those past issues though :x hey it was nice for like the 3 people who wanted to see yellow jacket back including me lmao
Mark 35:20. Martin! I thought that to evaporate liquid, it had to set out for awhile. But to vaporize something, by converting it into energy vapor, is near instantaneous. 🤔
Sure the movie wasn't all that, but I found what I was looking for in it. Which was Kang. You all need to read up on Kang to understand why he will be a major villain going into this phase. Warned people the moment he appeared in Loki.
Yeah Comics Explained has some great back story info on Kang. He educated me. Kang is a major threat.
SPOILERS THEORY
I think if they let the Banished Kang escape he would’ve killed all the other Kangs. Since they didn’t the other Kangs found out he died and decided to band together to conquer the timelines sooner than later.
They may have to go back in time and Free/Not Kill the Banished Kang so he can kill the other Kangs.
after seeing thor love and thunder and hearing mixed reviews on antman
imma save my money and watch clubber kang in creed 3
Yup. People saying “this is why I don’t trust reviews” when this, Thor L & T and Thor Dark World, Eternals are the lowest reviewed movies in the MCU. 🤣
Thor 4 was terrible
@@wu-bangya4486 Ragnarok was good man what you talking about
Lol! Me too i think
FACTS
A huge plot hole no one has been talking about is that they were never stuck in the quantum realm. At least I’m pretty sure they weren’t since they have they ability to grow large so couldn’t they have left at any moment? Plus they have plenty of those disks that they throw to make things enlarge, and I’m pretty sure that’s what Ant Man used to escape the quantum realm in the first movie.
What people are forgetting is this isn’t a fully powered Kang. There’s a more powerful version of him to come.
This was a weaker version since Kang has killed Avengers before but he has also been stuck in the quantum realm for a long time here so he can’t be the full power badass. Having so many varients of Kang is why he varies in power due to not all of them being the same as what universe they came from helps shape Kang.
@@offworlder1 Johnathan Majors + a fully powered Kang is when things will get interesting. I’m here for it!
@@hanielnasheed7189 I see that being in the next two Avengers movies especially as “Kang Dynasty” is the title of Avengers 5.
@@offworlder1 I’ve got faith that they will get Kang right otherwise there is no hope for introducing Dr Doom to the MCU
Thor 4 lacked story for me. I have very similar taste with Korey. If he says this is similar to Thor 4, imma have to wait until this is convenient to watch.
I think we needed more time with Gorr. We needed to see what makes him such a threat and give him more screen time. Felt like they skimmed past that.
Is it true that Janet was getting her cheeks clapped by Kang
They alluded to it but it was left to our discretion. Bill Murray did though. 🤣🤣
Well I liked the movie. I mean, there was one part where Michael Douglas started explaining how the ants that went through the portal into the Quantum Realm became "hyper-intelligent" and built advance civilizations was a bit corny, but still, I liked it. Still it does ad for questions...like how were these civilizations existing in this mini-universe this whole time? I mean, in prior Ant Man Movies, you didn't see others in the Quantum realm. Plus, it was indicated in Avenger movies that Quantum realm's space-time was different from our, yet at the end of this move, when the characters returned to San Francisco, it seemed like not much time had passed. Yet in end game, when Ant Man was in the Quantum realm for five hours, five years had passed due to the Blip, so yeah there were holes like that, but other than that it was good
We all know the REAL reason Janet didn't tell Hank about Kang and it wasn't about "escaping" 😂😂😂😂
aye he called the conqueror for a reason 🤣 😂
The memes about this gonna be legendary
I liked the first 2 movies, but don’t consider them top tier Marvel
Sounds like it should’ve been a Kang solo 😭
Im fairness to kangs introduction, thanos WAS introduced in the guardians movies, which to be honest with you always emphasized humour over the gravity of dealing with a being like Thanos. Hell, Thanos was even treated like a joke to a certain extent in the movies
The Guardians movies are a whole different animal, honestly. All the characters in the Guardians movies at least have chemistry and feel like they fit in. Ant-Man and his group honestly have never felt like they've had good chemistry. Half the time it feels like the people in Ant-Man's group hate each other.
Thanos sat in his chair the whole time.
*When it comes to the comparison between Thor 4 and Ant Man 3..... Thor 4's issue, in my opinion, was that the comedy was so fast and so constant you didn't get time to develop the more serious moments and I can see how that would frustrate some people. In Ant-Man 3, they give you time to breathe in between comedic beats. And there are some heartfelt moments that are still funny, but they're not obnoxiously funny... They're adorably funny, especially between Scott and Cassie.
Jonathan majors absolutely steals the show with the scenes he's in, but It does not mean that the other actors aren't good in their roles. Jonathan is new blood, and we've already gotten to know the other Ant-Man cast. So of course he's really going to stand out, especially because he's such a good dramatic actor.
I do agree with the criticisms around Janet though. I think she was the biggest issue with the plot simply because everything could have been avoided if she had just been honest.
Marvel been sleepwalking. There are more misses than hits of late.
They have been doing too much during a pandemic and financial crisis at the company.
Disney pushing Marvel for more money making movies. When Marvel was apart of multiple studios it had better movies. Compare Ironman 1 vs now or the Incredible Hulk.
I thought the comedy was good, and balanced well enough with the Film. While I thought "Love & Thunder" was trying too hard and too often with the comedy.
I was already planning on waiting to see it on Disney+ anyway.
You and thousands others, apparently.
My thing about the movie was that either Antman would died or Kang would get killed along with Antman in a final act to save the universe. Was a bit disappointed the movie didn't have the balls to go that far but Kang was the highlight of the film
M.O.D.O.K looks like if they enlarged Vern Troyer like they did Peter Dinklage in Infinity War, I would actually rather them had casted Dink in That role. . .he has the head & look!
They already have Dinklage as Eitri, so that wouldn't have been possible.
@@yookeemookee Yeah in Infinity War like I said. I would RATHER they had casted him as M.O.D.O.K. Eitri was a wasted throw away character on a great actor.
If this is the first movie of phase 5 isn't it supposed to be used to set up the rest of the phase?
Council of Kang
It still has to be an actual movie at the end of the day.
31:33 Did Korey just call her Janet Van Dyke? 😂
Julian said what I’ve been saying since the beginning of phase 4 than DC is gonna pass marvel.
This movie was actually pretty solid
I agree while do think the movie could have and should have more time to delvouop all the characters in this movie especially the said characters and had a main mainly me wanting this to be a story about Scott and his daughter and how much time he miss with her I still think the movie wa alright kang was awesome I didn't mine Modok being the comedic character in the movie even I think they could have handled him a lot better in this movie comedic and character wise
@@p.c.v.m9999 The ending is what messed up modoks character. He wasnt really "bumbling" he was definitely a threat. Just not in front of kang.
The character aspect I wasn't looking for going in so maybe that's why it didn't feel lacking for me. I was expecting this to be a ladder arc type movie and that's basically what it was.
I really think I enjoyed phase 4 more than most people did. The only film I didn't like from it was The Eternals.
Because of the mixed reactions I’m really hyped now. Either you loved MODOCK or you didn’t.
I haven't seen it but I bet it isn't as bad as people are making it.What else can you do with a character like that and when he had the whole face mask down I think he looks terrifying
@@keldorthebluemack it's not as bad but it is meh
I liked M.O.D.O.K
You guys are spot on. Kang carried the movie. Outside of Kang, ehh. Same old lame humor. And Kang is the next big bad but loses to antman???gtfoh
Dam! Koery just said "Marvel's got nothing" and I actually feel the same way to. This current phase of MCU films and TV shows has me tempering my expectations for Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
Likewise. As genuinely menacing as Kang may have been in this movie, I don't really see how they could possibly make him just as compelling as Thanos--if not more compelling than him--once they get to Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. Thanos was written in such a way that people actually agree with his plan and regurgitate his dialogue to this day. And I just don't see the same thing happening with Kang.
Took them THIS LONG to finally admitted
This news saddens me. The other Ant-Man films have been good. Maybe they just went too big with this one. At least Majors killed it as Kang but I expected nothing less.
In general, I wish Marvel would scale down on some movies.
Not too big at all. Very contained story.
@@lexis4490 I just saw it and I agree! I liked the movie.
kang was not scary guys. cmon.
I saw it today and I must say I enjoyed it. Its by no means a perfect film but it's a good time. I thought Kang was dope.
I completely agree man
@It aint no thing the mcu humor is annoying, we are all getting tired of the stupid tone
i enjoyed it as well, it is taking an undeserved beating. True it is not perfect...not even close, I could not help at staring at the obvious green screen especially in scenes that featured Michael Douglas, but nonetheless I enjoyed it. for me atleast a 6.5 out of 10
@It aint no thing yeah that's it. Can't be that it's not a great movie or anything
@It aint no thing Disney kept saying how important this shitty movie was supposed to be. You guys are like weird abused apologists no matter how shitty the product you just keep consuming “hurr it not dat bad I know da last movies and shows lately have been donkey doo doo but at least it ain’t pig doo doo!” At this point you people just worship the brand
Man, I'm down at how little I'm looking forward to an MCU movie until mildly Cap 4 and more Thunderbolts A YEAR FROM NOW :( Guardians can't count as Gunn's always had more creative control of them then Marvel and they seem more disconnected from the MCU.
Kang definitely saved this film. So excited to see more of him. Best mcu villain imo.
Calm down not as good as Thanos yet
Nothing left. The disjointed Avengers, Secret Invasion ect is all leading to Kang conquering the world which will likely be mixed with Dark Reign or lead to it.
And that’s even touching any potential storylines with Doctor Doom.
And I don’t think Kang’s victory will be undone in the next movie. The Kang Dynasty will likely be the status quo for a full phase.
IDK maybe because I read the comics I’m excited to where everything is leading. There’s still the threat of the Celestials as well.
I can still handle the Marvel formula even more so now that Disney and Sony finally delivered us Mandarin and Carnage in Shang Chi and Venom 2 2 years ago and they came through with bringing back the previous Spider-Man movie actors along with Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe), Doc Ock (Alfred Molina), Sandman (Thomas Haden Church), Lizard (Rhys Ifans), and Electro (Jamie Foxx). DC, not likely after pulling the plug on Henry Cavill.
But they brought back Keaton tho and am hyped asf now for the flash 😂🙌
I’ve trusted DT for years regarding their reviews and they’ve never disappointed. So, I’ll take their word on it. I had a feeling this movie wasn’t that good, especially with the narrative pushed of Kang being better than Thanos.
True but these are the same guys that liked She-Hulk, HATED Aquaman, and liked Space Jam 2.
And thought Avatar was great….
Already seeing MCU stans on twitter defending this movie despite having actually watched it. They're going into the movie with their mind made up that they're gonna love it and anyone who says otherwise is a hater. Disney favourite type of consumer.
The difference between comic fans who go to the shops on Wednesday compared to MCU stans is so odd. Comic fans have no issue eviscerating a series if it’s not living up to a character’s potential, like Zeb Well’s Spider-Man right now. But MCU Stans become incapable of criticism at times. Comic fans pointed out how Gorr was done dirty, especially compared to his plot in Saga of the God Butcher, and MCU Stans defended it constantly. You can point out how a film didn’t live up to its potential without saying other MCU films are mediocre.
@@Emoney-hy2kn because MCU is NOT the comics ?Gorr served his purpose in the story the movie was telling ?Why the fuck even compare something to the comics ,when the story in the comics was completely different ?Thats like the biggest and utter dumbest crap ever !LMAO !😂
@@Emoney-hy2kn Agreed. The stans are so emotionally attached to Disney now to the point that they take any sort of criticism toward a show/movie as an attack on them personally. They fail to see that criticism can actually be a good thing in the long run. It allows the product to grow and become better over time. If a company see's that they can put minimal effort into creating good art but will still be profitable they will continue to do so. It's the same problem we see with some AAA gaming studios lately.
So you’ve actually SEEN it yourself then?… 🤔
Funny that you mention Candyman, as Jonathan Majors reminded me of Tony Todd.
If yall don't like it, then it's official, Ant-Man is the only character in the MCU with a trilogy who didn't have a single movie I liked
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