I can tell the JKD guy landed the spinning backfist by mistake, he has probably trained that move along with the kick so many times that he did it by muscle memory. He felt so bad and apologized to the other fighter. Respect to both artists, I can tell both have the spirit. If you are curious about why was the JKD guy disqualified, it is because no punches to the face are allowed. Punches to the face with no gloves would cause too much damage. The point of sparring is never to injure or to get injured, is just to know where you are at, identify your weak points and work on them.
@@cardinalwilson8034 That depends on what damage you are talking about, the more pressure you put in one point, the more damage it makes, gloves distribute the pressure along the glove and does not focus it on one single knuckle. No gloves make more damage to the skin and bones, but gloves can cause brain damage.
@@testing4037 The brain damage scenario happens only on a combat, not if you are sparring, if you are sparring you are not hitting with all your strength (at least you shouldn't). I'd say the best is to always do sparring with gloves, you don't damage your opponent's face nor do you cause any brain damage. That's just my opinion.
No contact never tells where you are as the timing is out and the distance is wrong. You have to be in the sweet spot for maximum impact power and you need to fight legit for this. Besides one won't be able to take a hit if not conditioned to receive a hit.
FoneArc Yeah right I noticed it but still I mean the real winner is Jeet Kune Do if we disregard the rules. In a real fight there is no rules and Jeet Kune Do was made for real life threatening encounters.
@@thevdarkvknight6148 i m pretty sure it was an accident while he was getting the momentum of the spin because u can hit in the same time with a leg and fist xD
Yury Zangiev JKD and most Chinese based MA are not made for sport rules. If you agree to fight with a Kung Fu based MA be prepared for that. JKD did what it was taught and he won. This is what Bruce Lee spoke about Sport vs Hand to Hand combat MA's. Awesome fight very rare to see the difference
Mauricio M What you wrote is very stupid. They agreed not to use head punches. Or else MT fighter would have used his punches and elbows. And then we would see the difference.
Martial Art is ineffective inside a ring when there is a rules that conflicts the technique of certain martial art. That's why if we want who to see which fighter of different martial arts is better, there should be no rules.
@Ger Many I can't answer these with just numbers of uncertainty cuz there are alot of factors involve when learning JKD since it is variation of techniques combined in a single pack with a theme of "fast"
@Ger Many JKD isn't a martial art. Bruce Lee said it is only a philosophy and a concept to take whatever is effective and doing it correctly and fast. So if you really want to master JKD, take more martial arts that are effective and use techniques that would be necessary
@Ger Many, I don't really get your question because I didn't really state a specific martial art. I only said that JKD is a concept and we should learn more martial arts that are effective and can be easily applied
@@ItamarvhVahnish yeah because of bullshit rules here, pretty sure that old JKD fighter would knock the shit out of that young Muay Thai fighter in real/street fight, UFC, K1, PRIDE or even if they fight with Muay Thai rules lol...🤣😂🤣😂
@@delsonlai2180 that's like saying, "he lost this chess match, but he would have beaten him in checkers!" Doesn't matter how good you are if you can't play by the rules of the game you are playing.
It doesen't depend on the martial art, to my point of view that is a really close-minded afirmation. Every martial art has an objective, but if you, as a (for example) wing chun master, want to try in competitive styles, such as MMA, it is YOUR job as a martial artist to train with that objective. If you're boxer and you want to train for defending against weapons, it is your job to do so, in the end we all have four limbs and a brain, using them for different situation will make you grow as a practicioner.
that's really close minded in you, jeet kune do is literally the first mixed martial arts made by bruce lee, and the motto is to discard what is useless to you and absorb what is useful to you. so it's really ironic you would say that it's close minded considering how close minded you are.
Joe Kur That's even more close minded of you considering I know that since I was 15 years old. What even? I've done Ninjutsu, Karate and Krav Maga and I still don't see the difference. Bruce stated that in karate a lot of energy is wated in rigid movement, and that's true. However, that's only traditional karate and kata, we also practice self defense in karate, and what do you know????? STRAIGHT HITS FOR DAYS!!! You know what I mean by that because you know about Jeet Kune Do, I just think you missunderstood what I meant in my first comment.
What I mean is... Everyone complains about styles and wants to prove which style is better. A good martial artist practices the traditional way of his martial art and also the practical way, which applies in every style, that's called rejecting what's useless to you and absorb what's useful to you, and it's the most importat rule of Jeet Kune Do.
I think...it was an unintended backfist He aimed for a spinning side kick, but his arm wasn't covering his face it was extended following the motion too. And since the muah Thai dude went in to counter the incoming spin move he got caught with the spinning hand. It didn't look intentional by the reaction of the jkdo practitioner
JKD is made to evolve, that was what bruce lee wanted you'll see if you read his tao.He studied many different martial arts and incoperated them into wing chun.He didn't want to name it as jeet kune do (The way of intercepting fist) because he thought that it would limit it.
And yet it's still entirely irrelevant as an actual offensive or defensive martial art in real life situations, so who gives a shit? It's useless apart to a small extent learning to counter better. I understand what your saying, but doesn't make it an art worth learning for real life situations. Ever. Will get stomped on.
@@xyz-pf1yz to evolve ? preserving and evolution don't go together. what you are preserving here is nothing but a philosophy, something I called air talk. because we only have a body with two arms and two legs, evolution ends somewhere which also ends up teaching with the only things he knows for his time. in order to teach, mens need to organize his ideas if he wants to teach. this alone becomes a style, a way of doing something.
@@blahblahblahblah5260You saw a Muay Thai fighter to be knockouted abd you say that JKD doesn't work?The rules favored the Muay Thai fighter,if that fight it was in street the Muay Thai fighter would dream fast 😂😂
Bruce Lee practiced Wing Chun. Not any of that here. The JKD guy was the better fighter but it wasn’t in the confines of Muay Thai. I say this as a MCMAP Instructor.
Friendly Fellow u have obviously never been in a fight before, ur instinct will tell u to protect urself, whether it’s no rules or with rules, u can be damn sure the Muay Thai fighter is taught that
@@MK-kw5eo uh....what? JKD uses a bouncing stance. Bia Jong is literally bouncy. A proper Muay thai stance is usually grounded and uses a slide step to push forward. Also there is no hopping around in Muay Thai, you tap your foot on the ball to anticipate leg kicks to better check them.
The reason JKD lost was because it was Kyokushin rules. In Kyokushin it is illegal to punch to the face. You can see that the Muay Thai guy didn't punch to the face at all in the fight so saying JKD ''won'' is nonsensical. The JKD guy just used a move (accidentally) that the Muay Thai guy wasn't using nor expecting because of the rules.
When a Muay Thai fighter wins: "Muaythai is the best" "Muaythai is the strongest" "No other style can win against Muay thai" When muay thai fighter loses: "It depends on the fighter not the style" "The MT guy has not train well, he must be a beginner" "They're fighting not with MT rules" 😏😏😏😏😏
Muay Thai is literally the very essence of stand up striking, so yes Muay Thai is the best. Making up all of those things based on 1 video is already invalid enough
Exactly if they wanna proof wich martial art its better they should compete with no rules everything goes. Even doing that there's no way in telling wich martial arts its better. It all depends in the person there's god and bad fighters in all martial arts.
There are basic kicks punches and a stance in JKD but anything added and beyond is also considered JKD as you incorporate what works for you besides the previously mentioned
I believe people say Bruce is an actor not a fighter he def is a Martial Artist but besides here say he has never competed in fights. I'm not saying I'm with or against the Bruce being GOAT just pointing out the haters biggest fuel Bruce never fought professionally
@@aaronscott4984 I think he didn't fight professionally because jkd isn't built for a professional atmosphere it's built so you can take a sip of your beer then beat the shit out of some guy that won't leave you alone as fast as possible and then continue on drinking your beer
JKD is hard to apply on ring fight because the philosophy of JKD is not for ring but for street fight. Combination of all simple direct martial arts style and system, base by the user .... The sports version of JKD is MMA, , , that's why Bruce was called the Father of MMA
A spinning back fist and kick at the same time WHAT!? JKD is wild. I also don't think bruce lee had intentions of regulating his art like for most arts go into sports. This is in no way of making it seem like JKD is more effective or better Mauy Thai is deadly as heck but they have moves outside the ring and in it. And I would just assume JKD doesn't have that figured out yet
Idiót your jeet Kune Do Guys just lost from The Kyokushin kumite bout, If face Punches are allowed the Thai Boxer would have beaten the shit out of Him.
@@brekdakbanchamek6454 muay thai boxers mostly use their legs. And JKD is all about self defense, you dont know how much damage a move can do before you get hit by one. They say bruce lee hit like a heavyweight boxer. The spinning back fist easily can destroy ANY opponent. Dont underestimate people.
I think he didn’t mean the back fist 😅👍 he meant to kick lol 😆 but really like how the Asians are respectful to each other that’s great sportsmanship 👍😎🙏👊
It wasn't a punch. He was trying to use the momentum of his arms to increase the power of his kick. He extended his arm too far hence his accidental fist attack. The opponent was 1ft too close.
Some things I noticed that the jkd guy didn’t do properly or not done at all. First the on guard stance the legs are not bent and the rear foot is not raised which makes it more difficult for offense and defense mobility. Second is not using simplicity, directness and economy of motion for optimum offense which using a spinning back kick isn’t economical or effective.
lol if there were no rules the thai guy would have punched his face in well before that or clinched and finished him there are major advantages to both sides if the rules were changed not just the jkd
Matthew Kuba “uuurrhh uuurrh oooohhh street fights uuurrhhekjrjc” nigga there isn’t that shit, they use guns in the streets, martial arts doesn’t matter in the streets
Lol, the funny thing is the Muay Thai guy did the same thing to the Kyokushin guy he fought. The fight was fairly even until he broke the rules and hit then Kyokushin guy in the face. And getting hit in the face is a lot worse when you’re not expecting it.
@@earthphoenix7068 jkd is supposed not to have a fixed style. As Bruce Lee stated, he doesn't want it to be called JKD to avoid limitations like avoiding hitting vital spots.
That depends on what the fighter knows; a lot of schools claim JKD to be a formalized system of fighting composed of wing Chun, boxing, fencing, karate, FMA and Jujitsu. But thats not what Jeet Kune Do really is; its just a philosophy...not a fighting style or system. I consider myself a practitioner of JKD...and I only know a little boxing and Wing Chun. Hell...you could practice only one art...and still be JKD...if you had the mindset of only using what is practical.
Ah, godbro, another JKD "expert". I never knew there were so many. Thomas Brown I teach JKD and while you may try to apply a few of the principles, what you are doing (based on your description) isn't really JKD. You have greatly limited your combat options and no real JKD guy does that
Well in this contest, it's kyokushin rule that there's no face contact. JKD was DQ for this spinning back fist As if this is in MMA rules, that's a straight knockout. Respect to these two martial artists. They are respectful and friendly
@@awakenedsoul2638 Yes because there were stupid rules that restricted both martial arts so neither of them could hit in the face, if there were no rules the fight might be different but it falls down to the marital artist in the end
@@danielburks2257 I personally know that half bald man he is Chitto studying Jeet Kune Do but his true style is MMA. Kicks are usually long range. You lift your other leg and standing with just one leg it makes you lose your balance that is why it makes you open. Spinning kicks are not as effective in real life it is only good looking in movies.
There's no use in comparing in what style a fighter is using. It is depending on the person who studied a particular style well and how that person apply that style through training and experience. There's no such thing as one style is better than the other style because every styles have a strong and weak point. Nothing is perfect.
The spinning backfist is a move used in JKD so he probably did it out of muscle memory and reflexes rather than on purpose. Props to the dude though for taking that to the dome and getting over it like a champ, shit hurts when its the knuckles and you got the momentum of the body weight carrying the fist straight towards your face. If landed can exceptionally hurt/injure and lead to death.
JKD Is a concept of a modern MMA ..but then bruce lee develop it through years of practice ..it is not a fighting style that can easy to learn ..it needs time and patience to master it..even in modern times when we says the name bruce lee ..we know who he is..he is like a immortal man .even he is dead many years ago..
Bruce lee era incrivel! Essas tecnicas de JKD perfeitas ensina a se defender mesmo se fosse na rua esse rapaz tinha apanhado! E ele é novo e forte! Incrivel mesmo!
@@managamer097 cara kkkkkkkkkk não falei que era proibido mas do geito q ele tava ali sem reaçao assim é coisa de quem treina sem sparring, se o muay thai soubesse que podia na cara ele ia pulverizar o véio
@@xViTiNxRjDx primeiro de tudo que isso que o coroa tá praticando ali no vídeo na minha visão nem é JKD, ou pelo menos eu percebi a falta de muitos elementos ali, mas o JKD é voltado para defesa pessoal em Briga de rua, violência urbana, e nisso o cara sendo mais experiente em Sparing não o fará ter tanta vantagem nesse contexto
The title doesn't say "JKD style." It says "JKD practitioner." Bruce Lee created and taught a martial art that he named JKD. Dan Inosanto promised Bruce Lee that he would not teach JKD publicly so he would teach "JKD concepts" publicly and then privately teach people JKD as Bruce taught him. As far as I know he still does that. He calls the private instruction "Jun Fan" which is Bruce Lee's Chinese name. But Bruce didn't call his art Jun Fan. He called it JKD. I know this sounds like hair splitting, but to blindly say "JKD is not a style" whenever someone actually does JKD is to totally misunderstand and misrepresent what Bruce Lee was doing. In a certain way, boxing is not a "style." It's a system. You don't learn boxing katas, though some trainers might take you through different punching sequences as you are getting up to speed. Boxing does have techniques. Each boxer develops his or her own style. The same with JKD. There are no katas are forms to memorize but there are techniques. You can put those techniques together however you like to develop your own style.
john drake could not of said it better myself. Al these fuckin idiots keep wining oh its a concept not a style. fuck out of here with that shit. You still can learn jkd or jun fun kickboxing and call it jkd. Bruce lee called his style jkd so its mad annoying when people always say its not a style. its jun fun kickboxing or bruce lee's jkd. It is a free style so if u want to change something so it suits you better than you can do it. That jkd so jonathan morel can go fuck himself, cause he dont know what he is talking about
Queda claro el porque las artes marciales son muy limitadas, pues acostumbran hacer del combate algo fictio. Razón tenía Bruce Lee al decir que el combate es algo Real, y su sistema es un estilo de vida no un arte marcial.
Ves a un practicante de JKD ganar a uno de Muay Thai y ya según tú todas las artes marciales son limitadas, sin siquiera tomar un poco en cuenta el nivel de los peleadores.
conseguiu mais um inscrito só pelo fato de ter uma luta das duas artes marciais que eu treino, muay thai e jeet kune do, que meu pai me ensinou e trenou.Fora o boxe, kickboxing, jiu jitsu, krav maga, capoeira, kung fu dentre outras.....
From what I've seen MT guy isn't trained as much as the JKD guy, Rules are no strike to the face so MT won. If there were no rules i would still pick JKD. Since he seems much more trained and has more experience.
Lmaooo @ everyone calling that a counter that fool didnt even know what he was doing, he was trying to do a spinning heel kick but ended up catching the guy with his hand he flung, you can tell by his reaction 😂😂😂😂
@@pauloribeiroribeiro1039 paulo mas ele disse certo, da pra ver que nao era a intençao o golpe back hand , até por que nessa luta em si golpea na cara eram contra a regra, eu acho que se fosse proposital ele ia por mais torque na mão do que no pé
DQ seems a bit silly since the MT fighter more fell into the fist than anything else. It’s pretty obvious that JKD man was throwing a back kick and the contact on the hand to head was incidental.
Sorry but no JKD here even though he won this fight. No JKD footwork, no type of interceptions, the stance isn't correct, none of the 5 ways of attack, and no type of JKD strikes. He might be using some of the JKD concepts but he definitely isn't using AUTHENTIC JKD at all.
I train under scott shields who traind under dan insonto one of our biggest lesson is that JKD os adaptive and while fighting the thai boxer the footwork need was okay for the given scenario. The attack was one that was expanded on by dan insonto after the death of Bruce Lee
It does matter what martial arts you've learnt And how long you learnt them doesn't matter , you can learn 100 Kata it will not make you a better fighter It's how much you practice
That Old Man is not a Jeet Kune Do master. He was intimidated after the Muay Thai guy fell to the ground and his expression telling let me get you back.🤣🤣🤣
I can tell the JKD guy landed the spinning backfist by mistake, he has probably trained that move along with the kick so many times that he did it by muscle memory. He felt so bad and apologized to the other fighter. Respect to both artists, I can tell both have the spirit. If you are curious about why was the JKD guy disqualified, it is because no punches to the face are allowed. Punches to the face with no gloves would cause too much damage. The point of sparring is never to injure or to get injured, is just to know where you are at, identify your weak points and work on them.
actually gloves does more damage it adds weight to your punches and gloves protects the hands from possible hand fractures.
@@cardinalwilson8034 That depends on what damage you are talking about, the more pressure you put in one point, the more damage it makes, gloves distribute the pressure along the glove and does not focus it on one single knuckle. No gloves make more damage to the skin and bones, but gloves can cause brain damage.
@@luismadara23 Yes that's what Im talking about, what's the point of having your face intact when your brain becomes a pulp?
@@testing4037 The brain damage scenario happens only on a combat, not if you are sparring, if you are sparring you are not hitting with all your strength (at least you shouldn't). I'd say the best is to always do sparring with gloves, you don't damage your opponent's face nor do you cause any brain damage. That's just my opinion.
No contact never tells where you are as the timing is out and the distance is wrong. You have to be in the sweet spot for maximum impact power and you need to fight legit for this. Besides one won't be able to take a hit if not conditioned to receive a hit.
JKD guy got disqualified for landing a spinning backfist to the face. Rules: No face contact.
JKD has no rules, it's pure self defense
FoneArc
Yeah right I noticed it but still I mean the real winner is Jeet Kune Do if we disregard the rules. In a real fight there is no rules and Jeet Kune Do was made for real life threatening encounters.
Landed straight on the neck. Not the face.
Santos Taekwondo
Look again it is above the neck it is the jaw part. Hit you on your chin or jaw will rock your brain causing you to be knocked out.
You'reBrotha Nigga it wasnt on purpose... It was the kick not the punch.
Respect to the athlete's for sportsmanship and calmness
Rofl
I yawn
Can't believe the mouthbreather who made this, called this JKD
Their performance was impressive
If you observed carefully, the kick is not the one that knocked the Muay Thai fighter down. It was the spinning back fist.
It was an accident lol
@@thevdarkvknight6148 i m pretty sure it was an accident while he was getting the momentum of the spin because u can hit in the same time with a leg and fist xD
Maybe even a reaction since he countered the muay guys attack with a kick but also with a back fist out of reaction.
@@jeremym1415 yeah, i agree on that, it seems that it came naturaly but also kind of intentionally
Is not knocked but the spinning back fist go to the ear
It is not about in style, it is about you.
-Ip Man
what about in aikido
@@feoded4823 aikido could be useful if added with some strikes
@@angelajinnie1221 bruh
its true i kinda tried it
@@angelajinnie1221 can u prove pls
0:32 Way of The Intercepting Fist , and it work.
Idiót It's kyokushin kumite rules and Face punches are not allowed.
@@brekdakbanchamek6454 it was clearly an accident
Useful in street fights.
@@adediranbada7750 JKD is for street fights not for collecting points.👍
@@brekdakbanchamek6454 waaa
lol turning back side kick with back fist! nice!!!
Yeah, I just observed too, that the back fist was the one that did the damage.
Ear pop with a gut strike simultaneously. Well done
Caught him in the back if the ear...I gotta practice that move
It was an accident
They need to add that move to ufc4
Woah. So if you get your ass kicked, you win? That's the rules? Sweet! Is there prize money?
Ultradude i aint get it too...wtf?
i think its a no head punch rules, MT guy wins because JKD fail to follow the rules
+Christopher Siaw it looked like he ran into his fist on the spinning back kick is that really his fault
Yury Zangiev JKD and most Chinese based MA are not made for sport rules. If you agree to fight with a Kung Fu based MA be prepared for that. JKD did what it was taught and he won. This is what Bruce Lee spoke about Sport vs Hand to Hand combat MA's. Awesome fight very rare to see the difference
Mauricio M What you wrote is very stupid. They agreed not to use head punches. Or else MT fighter would have used his punches and elbows. And then we would see the difference.
"Everybody has a plan until they get a backfist to the face." ~Bruce Tyson.
Any Martial Art is effective only if the person knows how to execute the art flawlessly.
Martial Art is ineffective inside a ring when there is a rules that conflicts the technique of certain martial art. That's why if we want who to see which fighter of different martial arts is better, there should be no rules.
@Ger Many I can't answer these with just numbers of uncertainty cuz there are alot of factors involve when learning JKD since it is variation of techniques combined in a single pack with a theme of "fast"
@Ger Many Dude you are so weird.
@Ger Many JKD isn't a martial art. Bruce Lee said it is only a philosophy and a concept to take whatever is effective and doing it correctly and fast. So if you really want to master JKD, take more martial arts that are effective and use techniques that would be necessary
@Ger Many, I don't really get your question because I didn't really state a specific martial art. I only said that JKD is a concept and we should learn more martial arts that are effective and can be easily applied
I first i thought the JKD guy would lose, but I noticed his composure through the fight. You could see the skill in his movement
Yes thats beautifull
He did lose
@@ItamarvhVahnish yeah because of bullshit rules here, pretty sure that old JKD fighter would knock the shit out of that young Muay Thai fighter in real/street fight, UFC, K1, PRIDE or even if they fight with Muay Thai rules lol...🤣😂🤣😂
You were right with your first assumption. He lost.
@@delsonlai2180 that's like saying, "he lost this chess match, but he would have beaten him in checkers!" Doesn't matter how good you are if you can't play by the rules of the game you are playing.
It doesen't depend on the martial art, to my point of view that is a really close-minded afirmation.
Every martial art has an objective, but if you, as a (for example) wing chun master, want to try in competitive styles, such as MMA, it is YOUR job as a martial artist to train with that objective.
If you're boxer and you want to train for defending against weapons, it is your job to do so, in the end we all have four limbs and a brain, using them for different situation will make you grow as a practicioner.
that's really close minded in you, jeet kune do is literally the first mixed martial arts made by bruce lee, and the motto is to discard what is useless to you and absorb what is useful to you.
so it's really ironic you would say that it's close minded considering how close minded you are.
Joe Kur That's even more close minded of you considering I know that since I was 15 years old.
What even? I've done Ninjutsu, Karate and Krav Maga and I still don't see the difference.
Bruce stated that in karate a lot of energy is wated in rigid movement, and that's true. However, that's only traditional karate and kata, we also practice self defense in karate, and what do you know?????
STRAIGHT HITS FOR DAYS!!!
You know what I mean by that because you know about Jeet Kune Do, I just think you missunderstood what I meant in my first comment.
What I mean is... Everyone complains about styles and wants to prove which style is better. A good martial artist practices the traditional way of his martial art and also the practical way, which applies in every style, that's called rejecting what's useless to you and absorb what's useful to you, and it's the most importat rule of Jeet Kune Do.
Ar Ca it depends on the user
The Pomp King That's exactly what I say. But there's people that don't seem to understand that,
I think...it was an unintended backfist
He aimed for a spinning side kick, but his arm wasn't covering his face it was extended following the motion too.
And since the muah Thai dude went in to counter the incoming spin move he got caught with the spinning hand.
It didn't look intentional by the reaction of the jkdo practitioner
It was a combination attack
I agree. Looks like he swings his arms for extra power and momentum for the kick but caught the guy with a backfist instead.
JKD is made to evolve, that was what bruce lee wanted you'll see if you read his tao.He studied many different martial arts and incoperated them into wing chun.He didn't want to name it as jeet kune do (The way of intercepting fist) because he thought that it would limit it.
And yet it's still entirely irrelevant as an actual offensive or defensive martial art in real life situations, so who gives a shit? It's useless apart to a small extent learning to counter better. I understand what your saying, but doesn't make it an art worth learning for real life situations. Ever. Will get stomped on.
@@blahblahblahblah5260 same with bjj and other martial arts basically
so true, jkd was meant to evolve, to adapt, it is no fixed martial arts style.
@@xyz-pf1yz
to evolve ? preserving and evolution don't go together. what you are preserving here is nothing but a philosophy, something I called air talk. because we only have a body with two arms and two legs, evolution ends somewhere which also ends up teaching with the only things he knows for his time. in order to teach, mens need to organize his ideas if he wants to teach. this alone becomes a style, a way of doing something.
@@blahblahblahblah5260You saw a Muay Thai fighter to be knockouted abd you say that JKD doesn't work?The rules favored the Muay Thai fighter,if that fight it was in street the Muay Thai fighter would dream fast 😂😂
Holy shit he landed a back kick and a back fist at the same time? Sick
2hit combos!
it was against the rules...
@@redsheepnobs877 I don't care. Rules don't stop you from getting knocked out.
@@hesserk if he was aware that hits to the face was allowed he would have had been more aware
oh, then why did they kick me out for knocking that bjj guy out by biting his balls? if rules don't save you from ko.
The art of Bruce Lee..what he gave to us respect ❤
Bruce Lee practiced Wing Chun. Not any of that here. The JKD guy was the better fighter but it wasn’t in the confines of Muay Thai. I say this as a MCMAP Instructor.
Bruce lee practice wing chun only 😂😂 bro get some more knowledge.
Bruce Lee practiced wing chun for a few years then mixed martial art styles and created a new martial art, Jeet Kune Do
Wasn’t just only Wing Chun
@@calebosborn3304JKD is also judo(brus le practice ! JKD is also savat(french boxing brus lee was practice and many other !
@@BHA-VIYes Bruce also judo boxing and others !
The outcome actually suprised me I thought the Muay Thai fighter was going to win good job for the JKD guy
As he ended down on the ground almost KO, I believe he is the true looser.
Friendly Fellow no it’s not the same, can’t compare apples and oranges
Friendly Fellow football is not the same as combat, neither is chess or Yatzy
Friendly Fellow u have obviously never been in a fight before, ur instinct will tell u to protect urself, whether it’s no rules or with rules, u can be damn sure the Muay Thai fighter is taught that
Johnny Kool it's still a sport with rules
In my perspective. Both of the style are really useful in terms of combat situation.
I didn't know why you guys comparing both of it.
JKD is better, less hoping around and telegraphing attacks
@@MK-kw5eo uh....what? JKD uses a bouncing stance. Bia Jong is literally bouncy. A proper Muay thai stance is usually grounded and uses a slide step to push forward. Also there is no hopping around in Muay Thai, you tap your foot on the ball to anticipate leg kicks to better check them.
Two different arts thats why there's a comparison duh''
In combat situation, runshido is the most useful style
@@MK-kw5eo try to say that to bukaw or saenchai
The reason JKD lost was because it was Kyokushin rules. In Kyokushin it is illegal to punch to the face. You can see that the Muay Thai guy didn't punch to the face at all in the fight so saying JKD ''won'' is nonsensical. The JKD guy just used a move (accidentally) that the Muay Thai guy wasn't using nor expecting because of the rules.
Kyolushin rules sux!!!!
@@captainsnakehead2432 its kyokushin captain snakehead lmao, and that MT guy also punch kyokushin fighter in the face
Make without rules this pinoy will run out for sure
The rules is there is no rules
Bro Escrima influenced JKD a lot wym run out? He’d literally kill that guy if there were no rules
Such an inspiring display of skill and respect between martial artists. The philosophy of Jeet Kune Do really shines through in this match.
When a Muay Thai fighter wins:
"Muaythai is the best"
"Muaythai is the strongest"
"No other style can win against Muay thai"
When muay thai fighter loses:
"It depends on the fighter not the style"
"The MT guy has not train well, he must be a beginner"
"They're fighting not with MT rules"
😏😏😏😏😏
Jeet Kune Do guy lost
How? xD
Yup, typical muay thai keyboard warrior. So disrespectful to other practicioner. But muay thai is a beast! Respect for both of them
Muay Thai is literally the very essence of stand up striking, so yes Muay Thai is the best. Making up all of those things based on 1 video is already invalid enough
😂
Can we stop comparing styles n matches with rules?
lord duck The problem is that the styles themselves have rules.
Adam x he ment privileges I think..
Exactly if they wanna proof wich martial art its better they should compete with no rules everything goes. Even doing that there's no way in telling wich martial arts its better. It all depends in the person there's god and bad fighters in all martial arts.
keyboard ninja Muay Boran has no rules and evolved into Muay Thai, and it’s proven itself effective.
JKD isn't a style
There are basic kicks punches and a stance in JKD but anything added and beyond is also considered JKD as you incorporate what works for you besides the previously mentioned
Screw the rules, wow what reaction time from the jeet kun do man. 0:31 # incredible
Yea! Great interception!
Hmm....yes. I missed that. Good one
Yeaah🤣 screw the rules☝🤨
Yeah but without thw rules the jeet kune do would have been smoked you know that right
@@xViTiNxRjDx No. The Muay Tai guy got knocked down quick, I think he would have got smashed.
The reason why jeet kune do is so deadly because it combines all martial arts, founded by bruce lee. Bruce lee is the king of martial arts
That backfist and analogously spinning kick ..woah..it is completely legal in mma
YOU GOOD BUT AM BETTER, YOUR FAST BUT AM FASTER. ........
●¿● BRUCE LEE. .
BE WATER MY FRIEND.
Jkd won,the rules sucks
ok ok jkd was created by Bruce Lee and a bunch of dumb asses said Bruce Lee is just an actor no martial artist
No, Bruce Lee is not the most famous actor in the world, Bruce Lee is the most famous martial artist in the world.
I believe people say Bruce is an actor not a fighter he def is a Martial Artist but besides here say he has never competed in fights. I'm not saying I'm with or against the Bruce being GOAT just pointing out the haters biggest fuel Bruce never fought professionally
@@aaronscott4984 I think he didn't fight professionally because jkd isn't built for a professional atmosphere it's built so you can take a sip of your beer then beat the shit out of some guy that won't leave you alone as fast as possible and then continue on drinking your beer
@@amaliarivera5802 Only snowflakes think Bruce was just an actor. I don't bother arguing with those delusional fuck heads
JKD is hard to apply on ring fight because the philosophy of JKD is not for ring but for street fight. Combination of all simple direct martial arts style and system, base by the user .... The sports version of JKD is MMA, , , that's why Bruce was called the Father of MMA
A spinning back fist and kick at the same time WHAT!? JKD is wild. I also don't think bruce lee had intentions of regulating his art like for most arts go into sports.
This is in no way of making it seem like JKD is more effective or better Mauy Thai is deadly as heck but they have moves outside the ring and in it. And I would just assume JKD doesn't have that figured out yet
Jkd won 😏
mike smith big man ting
He lost actually
Idiót your jeet Kune Do Guys just lost from The Kyokushin kumite bout, If face Punches are allowed the Thai Boxer would have beaten the shit out of Him.
@@brekdakbanchamek6454 if they were allowed? So if a man on the street says, no punching to the face you’ll listen to him🤔
@@brekdakbanchamek6454 muay thai boxers mostly use their legs. And JKD is all about self defense, you dont know how much damage a move can do before you get hit by one. They say bruce lee hit like a heavyweight boxer. The spinning back fist easily can destroy ANY opponent. Dont underestimate people.
Respect to both fighters for entering the mat, wow the jkd dude got some hands.
That JKD fighter gave him a ear pop and roundhouse directly to the gut at the exact same time. Well executed
Except that the rules forbid that. So, what's next, kick on the balls?
Bruce had a GREAT respect for Thai Boxing.
Looks like drunk uncles fighting at an Asian BBQ.
Nice. So winning is getting KO’d???
Sean W I thought the same thing but no punches to the face of you look back he slightly clips him with the follow through of the kick
I think he didn’t mean the back fist 😅👍 he meant to kick lol 😆 but really like how the Asians are respectful to each other that’s great sportsmanship 👍😎🙏👊
Well, thats a lot of emoticons
That block and counter was pretty wicked
It wasn't a punch. He was trying to use the momentum of his arms to increase the power of his kick. He extended his arm too far hence his accidental fist attack. The opponent was 1ft too close.
Some things I noticed that the jkd guy didn’t do properly or not done at all. First the on guard stance the legs are not bent and the rear foot is not raised which makes it more difficult for offense and defense mobility. Second is not using simplicity, directness and economy of motion for optimum offense which using a spinning back kick isn’t economical or effective.
whoa whoa wait, did the jkd one lost? well.. fck rules
lol if there were no rules the thai guy would have punched his face in well before that or clinched and finished him there are major advantages to both sides if the rules were changed not just the jkd
That's because the knock down rules... No gluves no punches to the head... Still stupid fight with stupid rules
not knockdown rules
“Fck rules” ok, fuck martial arts, where’s my glock 19
Matthew Kuba “uuurrhh uuurrh oooohhh street fights uuurrhhekjrjc” nigga there isn’t that shit, they use guns in the streets, martial arts doesn’t matter in the streets
Lol, the funny thing is the Muay Thai guy did the same thing to the Kyokushin guy he fought. The fight was fairly even until he broke the rules and hit then Kyokushin guy in the face. And getting hit in the face is a lot worse when you’re not expecting it.
When did the mt fighter hit him in the face? If anything he got hit in the face 10 seconds in as well.
@@connorObye u can see it in other video, kyokushin vs muay thai
@@esdeathchan4354 Yeah I watched it.
I really love the man apologizing 🖤 learn from him.....huge respect for you #Old_man❤️
he's 17 years old he's just bald. stop discriminating against the bald!!
jkd is for street fights but what i do wanna learn is close quarter combats or cqc
Wait, i don't get it. Who won in the end?
The jkd guys leg parry also moved his waist and shoulders into position for the spinning side kick and spinning backfist.
Yeah he checked the kick as well. I didnt even know what modern Jeet Kun Do looked like tbh
@@earthphoenix7068 jkd is supposed not to have a fixed style. As Bruce Lee stated, he doesn't want it to be called JKD to avoid limitations like avoiding hitting vital spots.
JKD allows a fighter more options than Muay Thai. Isn't that, in itself, an advantage?
Adam x JKD is not a fighting style, it offers no advantages
That depends on what the fighter knows; a lot of schools claim JKD to be a formalized system of fighting composed of wing Chun, boxing, fencing, karate, FMA and Jujitsu. But thats not what Jeet Kune Do really is; its just a philosophy...not a fighting style or system. I consider myself a practitioner of JKD...and I only know a little boxing and Wing Chun. Hell...you could practice only one art...and still be JKD...if you had the mindset of only using what is practical.
Ah, godbro, another JKD "expert". I never knew there were so many. Thomas Brown I teach JKD and while you may try to apply a few of the principles, what you are doing (based on your description) isn't really JKD. You have greatly limited your combat options and no real JKD guy does that
@@stefanodogg280 thats what jkd is its a philosophy of martial art concepts and not a style
The Laughing Pro *The Way of No Way* and *be like water, my friend*
That's was amazing! :D Classic move that you should do every time u stand with your back to the opponent.
Well in this contest, it's kyokushin rule that there's no face contact. JKD was DQ for this spinning back fist
As if this is in MMA rules, that's a straight knockout. Respect to these two martial artists. They are respectful and friendly
He did good checked the kick than added a spinning back kick nice good job
that kid had no chance, the moral of the story is don't fuck with your elders of they will fuck you up lol
shut up i beat up a granny yesterday and she dint do shit lmao
+yung キアン imma call police you ruthless af destroy your comment now or i'll call youtube mods
Loser = Winner??? :O
Ha ha ha we know who the real winner is!
@@awakenedsoul2638 Yes because there were stupid rules that restricted both martial arts so neither of them could hit in the face, if there were no rules the fight might be different but it falls down to the marital artist in the end
@@danielburks2257
Yeah right it is how you use your technique. I can see that Muay shorty is hesitating with his attacks!
@@awakenedsoul2638 Because he's not allowed to hit in the face? So he's only throwing kicks and kicks make yourself very open?
@@danielburks2257
I personally know that half bald man he is Chitto studying Jeet Kune Do but his true style is MMA.
Kicks are usually long range. You lift your other leg and standing with just one leg it makes you lose your balance that is why it makes you open. Spinning kicks are not as effective in real life it is only good looking in movies.
There's no use in comparing in what style a fighter is using. It is depending on the person who studied a particular style well and how that person apply that style through training and experience. There's no such thing as one style is better than the other style because every styles have a strong and weak point. Nothing is perfect.
depends on the context of the question.
Very interesting move at 0:28
I’ve used that move many times in my matches most guys can’t defend against a spinning back fist
The spinning backfist is a move used in JKD so he probably did it out of muscle memory and reflexes rather than on purpose. Props to the dude though for taking that to the dome and getting over it like a champ, shit hurts when its the knuckles and you got the momentum of the body weight carrying the fist straight towards your face. If landed can exceptionally hurt/injure and lead to death.
@Master Marc Subliminals edgy 13 year olds be like:
the back kick also connected. great move!
JKD Is a concept of a modern MMA ..but then bruce lee develop it through years of practice ..it is not a fighting style that can easy to learn ..it needs time and patience to master it..even in modern times when we says the name bruce lee ..we know who he is..he is like a immortal man .even he is dead many years ago..
I like how tbe JKD guy checked the low kick with a frontkick.
He counter the low kick very beautiful.
He thought for SURE he was striking a strike.....got behind the ear instead.
Bruce lee era incrivel! Essas tecnicas de JKD perfeitas ensina a se defender mesmo se fosse na rua esse rapaz tinha apanhado! E ele é novo e forte! Incrivel mesmo!
Tinha nada, ele ia tomar uma puta surra desgovernada do muay thai, ele tava recuando tanto, sinao de quem nao luta de verdade, ou não pratica aparring
@@xViTiNxRjDx é proibido recuar?? Kkkk aceita o coroa deitou o jovem do Muai tay
@@managamer097 cara kkkkkkkkkk não falei que era proibido mas do geito q ele tava ali sem reaçao assim é coisa de quem treina sem sparring, se o muay thai soubesse que podia na cara ele ia pulverizar o véio
@@xViTiNxRjDx primeiro de tudo que isso que o coroa tá praticando ali no vídeo na minha visão nem é JKD, ou pelo menos eu percebi a falta de muitos elementos ali, mas o JKD é voltado para defesa pessoal em Briga de rua, violência urbana, e nisso o cara sendo mais experiente em Sparing não o fará ter tanta vantagem nesse contexto
@@rodrigopontes6909 depende muito do lutador, mas nssa luta o muay thai tinha vantargem
jkd is not a style !
Jonathan Morel it is a way of life
The title doesn't say "JKD style." It says "JKD practitioner." Bruce Lee created and taught a martial art that he named JKD. Dan Inosanto promised Bruce Lee that he would not teach JKD publicly so he would teach "JKD concepts" publicly and then privately teach people JKD as Bruce taught him. As far as I know he still does that. He calls the private instruction "Jun Fan" which is Bruce Lee's Chinese name. But Bruce didn't call his art Jun Fan. He called it JKD. I know this sounds like hair splitting, but to blindly say "JKD is not a style" whenever someone actually does JKD is to totally misunderstand and misrepresent what Bruce Lee was doing. In a certain way, boxing is not a "style." It's a system. You don't learn boxing katas, though some trainers might take you through different punching sequences as you are getting up to speed. Boxing does have techniques. Each boxer develops his or her own style. The same with JKD. There are no katas are forms to memorize but there are techniques. You can put those techniques together however you like to develop your own style.
Technically it is a style because Bruce Lee created and Jeet kune is part of kung fu
Kung fu is more part of JKD being in JKD he used multiple styles it's basically MMA but more for defense than sport
john drake could not of said it better myself. Al these fuckin idiots keep wining oh its a concept not a style. fuck out of here with that shit. You still can learn jkd or jun fun kickboxing and call it jkd. Bruce lee called his style jkd so its mad annoying when people always say its not a style. its jun fun kickboxing or bruce lee's jkd. It is a free style so if u want to change something so it suits you better than you can do it. That jkd so jonathan morel can go fuck himself, cause he dont know what he is talking about
We all know JKD won, there's no rules in the streets!
If this is on the street, the Muay Thai guy would of already take his head off.
If there is nor ules on the streets then the MT guy wouldn't try and avoid punching to the face either.
For me it is total nonsense if you have a fight and not be allowed to hit the face with a fist.if you wanna be a fighter then be one
wait the guy that got knocked out wins . I could be a world champion in this tournament . what's the purse and where do i sign ?
Queda claro el porque las artes marciales son muy limitadas, pues acostumbran hacer del combate algo fictio. Razón tenía Bruce Lee al decir que el combate es algo Real, y su sistema es un estilo de vida no un arte marcial.
Ves a un practicante de JKD ganar a uno de Muay Thai y ya según tú todas las artes marciales son limitadas, sin siquiera tomar un poco en cuenta el nivel de los peleadores.
The reason why Bruce Lee didn’t do competitions smh
ppl like to compare them and im here like teach me both plz lol
If you are not allowed to hit the face then you ain't fighting, you're in a dance competition
Alternate title: father and son throw leg kicks at each other until your dad learns a spinning back fist
conseguiu mais um inscrito só pelo fato de ter uma luta das duas artes marciais que eu treino, muay thai e jeet kune do, que meu pai me ensinou e trenou.Fora o boxe, kickboxing, jiu jitsu, krav maga, capoeira, kung fu dentre outras.....
Stop lying
Cala a boca mlk para de falar merda
@@ErickMarcelloni cala a boca tu tbem vacilao!
From what I've seen MT guy isn't trained as much as the JKD guy, Rules are no strike to the face so MT won. If there were no rules i would still pick JKD. Since he seems much more trained and has more experience.
Ok Karate lady but you are Hot!
Lmaooo @ everyone calling that a counter that fool didnt even know what he was doing, he was trying to do a spinning heel kick but ended up catching the guy with his hand he flung, you can tell by his reaction 😂😂😂😂
@Joseph Benedict T DELEON actually you can see the back fist was accidental
tu sabe nada de luta inocente.
@@pauloribeiroribeiro1039 paulo mas ele disse certo, da pra ver que nao era a intençao o golpe back hand , até por que nessa luta em si golpea na cara eram contra a regra, eu acho que se fosse proposital ele ia por mais torque na mão do que no pé
Very nice job JetKuneDo guy!!!!! I prefer thaiboxing but this was nice.
that spinning back kick after the check was beautiful.
DQ seems a bit silly since the MT fighter more fell into the fist than anything else. It’s pretty obvious that JKD man was throwing a back kick and the contact on the hand to head was incidental.
Muay thai not pro here
yes pro thai and not pro JKD JKD best
Sorry but no JKD here even though he won this fight. No JKD footwork, no type of interceptions, the stance isn't correct, none of the 5 ways of attack, and no type of JKD strikes. He might be using some of the JKD concepts but he definitely isn't using AUTHENTIC JKD at all.
I train under scott shields who traind under dan insonto one of our biggest lesson is that JKD os adaptive and while fighting the thai boxer the footwork need was okay for the given scenario. The attack was one that was expanded on by dan insonto after the death of Bruce Lee
Also that inersetion of the round and to counter with back kick was JKD at its finest
You are aware JKD isn't a style right?
It's a philosophy, do some research....
Agreed
That's correct to some extent.
so is spinning back fist a jkd move?
Yes. Unless you dont know JKD.
It doesn't matter which martial arts did you've learned.
But it's important how long did you've learned them.
It does matter what martial arts you've learnt
And how long you learnt them doesn't matter , you can learn 100 Kata it will not make you a better fighter
It's how much you practice
JKD=kick in the nuts?
bigguy130 yep bruce talked about kicks to the groin all the time
bigguy130 if it wins the fight then it's alright
Goodness, I've been playing badminton incorrectly for my entire life.
Where was this filmed?
I don't know why i can't stop laughing watching the knockdown..,😂😂😂😂
Well Jert Kune Do doesn‘t know rules. It‘s all about demobilizing your enemy
So the take away from this is...Muy Thai follows rules, JKD is designed to destroy an opponent outside of a ring.
In the real life scenario the backfist would finish off things!
Ah yes the classic no hit in the face rule violated by the man who demanded it😂
When you try fight a Fake Master but he has a Real Master.
The Jeet Kune Do fighter knocked him out but lost 🤔😅
Apanhou e ganhou...onde fomos parar ?😂😂😂
All this shows How the Jeet kun do is more dangerous than other martial arts😅
What happened? Was it an illegal move? What rules did they have that allowed punches to the head but banned backfists?
Fighting stance really helps to understand which styles of fighting skills they are using
That Old Man is not a Jeet Kune Do master. He was intimidated after the Muay Thai guy fell to the ground and his expression telling let me get you back.🤣🤣🤣
No it was because it was illegal to hit someone in the head
Jeet kune do guy just demonstrated how to block and counter the low muay Thai power kicks with ease
0:32
jkd guy be like: did I really double connected????
Praticante de JKD só ataca na hora certa,não desperdiça movimentos,ação simples, direto e eficientes!
He got knock out and declared winner . How ?
Arm kick or head kick?