Better? There is a reason old school poker players very rarely even make final tables let alone win events these days. Most of the people who win are studying players. The old school guys have been pushed aside.
25:45 Man was poker different back then. Washington opens the button with Q9o (totally fine) and Awada shoves for like 7BBs and Norm is in the booth acting like this should be an easy fold when Washington is getting like 2.5-1.
29:34 is also amusing- Norm states that Washington can knock out Awada with a king, ace, or five. But an ace would have given Washington two pair & Awada the straight.
@@joshuamiller1132 I was going to post that if nobody else did already. I don't think Gabe Kaplan, the commentator that Norman Chad replaced, would've missed the straight for KK. Gabe probably would have mentioned the pot odds with the Q9o call too. Norman makes it seem like poker theory was worse than it actually was in 2004. If the producers wanted a commentator who knew the poker theory of 2004 they would have stuck with Gabe Kaplan.
It's OK if u want to play base on old school style but plz don't complain when u lose more than u win when u face with "solver kids". Poker is mathematics with elemental of luck. Poker back then is easy. That's why helmuth can win more than 10 bracelet
@@vietanh9363live poker is about so much more than math and just making technical decisions. Guess what the more boring you are to play with the smaller your edges get and the less money you make. Bad players are your customers. Give them something for their money.
I think poker go should film these level tourneys again. Make the delay 1 day. Then you can’t figure out your opponents as easily and it’s easier to edit. Take the footage and cut each hand into its own video. Then also create shorts. This helps the algorithm to grow. Then we can grow poker and bring larger events. Poker is hotter than ever.
Back before ICM was considered and people weren't worried about giving tells when folding, making sure they took the same amount of time to fold 7/2 as to raise with Aces. Honestly will never get why people don't just insta muck when they know they are folding pre. It gives away no info by how fast you fold pre.
I think poker go should film these level tourneys again. Make the delay 1 day. Then you can’t figure out your opponents as easily and it’s easier to edit. Take the footage and cut each hand into its own video. Then also create shorts. This helps the algorithm to grow. Then we can grow poker and bring larger events. Poker is hotter than ever. I also think to have the banter and fun like this again there should be tournaments that are restricted by earnings. For example if you want to film funny interesting true emotion film a tourney where you can’t play in it if you have over $20,000 on Hendon. Then you will get mid 2000s poker again
Yea I mean that’s what made it fun to watch. It was only the good parts. Nowadays it’s 8 hours of boring poker a day they could condense to 1 hour like they used to do. Poker nowadays is almost as boring as watching soccer, almost.
These shows for the smaller events were an hour which means about 40 minutes or so of airtime so they were more like highlights of the final table as opposed to actual coverage
I mean you do realize this was 45 mins probably from 8 hours of poker or so . If they condensed poker in 2024 instead of showing it all day live. It would be the same thing. Also you started of with less big blinds at the start of every tourney so more all ins happened.
@@KurtyKingKongDong420 Exactly. Make the 2024 WSOP FT (or literally any FT) into a one hour show with commercials, endless in-depth interviews of each player, and random segments like showcasing a few chips tricks you'd get the same thing.
@@Kanders190the in depth interviews were smart they made these people into characters, now everyone is boring they all play the same and have n personality. It’s no wonder it died off in popularity on tv
@@Krausetube516 Eh, it’s lost TV popularity because the game got figured out by a lot of people. It’s tough to make the players into “characters” when the vast majority at these big FTs are professionals or at the very least, very skilled amateurs.
We fell in love with the backstories and quick edited segments about talents or hobbies or stories. That would be awesome to see again.
Ah I remember watching these while playing on PartyPoker. What a time to be alive.
It was amazing.
We didn’t know how great it was until it ended.
@ yeah it always seems to be the case.
“The Crew” aged like a fine milk
You run a pokemon card youtube channel settle down
Polemon or not he's right
@mariolopez-oi2td Hobby shaming sounds like something “The Crew” would do.
@mariolopez-oi2td Wait was this an insult? 🤣
Like DNegs's hair
"The Crew", rolling down the suburb streets in their baggy cargo pants, what a bunch of tools lol
Awada was the true gentleman and champion
If you only knew the truth. I used to run in these circles . Awada has a checkered past at best.
joe awada...a true professional
"The Gold Rush" days of WSOP. What an era.
What was different is the coverage/production wasn't amateur
Man, these were so entertaining to watch back in the day.
Poker was different, Norm didn't realize an ace makes the guy a str8
Norm was different. Gabe Kaplan, the commentator that Norm replaced, would have spotted the straight.
If by “different” you mean better, then you are absolutely correct.
Better? There is a reason old school poker players very rarely even make final tables let alone win events these days. Most of the people who win are studying players. The old school guys have been pushed aside.
@@wesch6354 I don’t think they mean the play was better, they mean this is much more entertaining and fun to watch than modern poker.
@Rainmaker205 that makes sense.
I love these older tournaments. Such a great era of poker. With that said they played pretty terrible for the most part. The commentary as well…
@yuril6313 I actually enjoyed the commentary from these 2.
25:45 Man was poker different back then. Washington opens the button with Q9o (totally fine) and Awada shoves for like 7BBs and Norm is in the booth acting like this should be an easy fold when Washington is getting like 2.5-1.
29:34 is also amusing- Norm states that Washington can knock out Awada with a king, ace, or five. But an ace would have given Washington two pair & Awada the straight.
@@joshuamiller1132
I was going to post that if nobody else did already. I don't think Gabe Kaplan, the commentator that Norman Chad replaced, would've missed the straight for KK. Gabe probably would have mentioned the pot odds with the Q9o call too. Norman makes it seem like poker theory was worse than it actually was in 2004. If the producers wanted a commentator who knew the poker theory of 2004 they would have stuck with Gabe Kaplan.
Norm and Lon have always sucked. People just get nostalgic about them.
Joe Awada played great. Fishman got lucky a lot and didn’t play hat great
Awada's table talk was annoying. He was trying to act really smart but had no idea what to do with the information.
Played great? Called off half his stack with Ace 3 off suit. You’re funny
*6:16** Solver kids today would consider these RFI sizes insane! 6K/12K blinds, HJ opens for 45K off a 20BB stack!*
Solver kids' heads all exploded when they watched somebody raise/fold TT with those stack sizes.
It's OK if u want to play base on old school style but plz don't complain when u lose more than u win when u face with "solver kids". Poker is mathematics with elemental of luck. Poker back then is easy. That's why helmuth can win more than 10 bracelet
@@vietanh9363live poker is about so much more than math and just making technical decisions.
Guess what the more boring you are to play with the smaller your edges get and the less money you make.
Bad players are your customers. Give them something for their money.
Dont feel too bad for Joe Awada, as youll see in a future episode.
He's got that scumbag aura
man this takes me back
33:43 for wsop's new tv gizmo in the event of a fold before the river
Joe Awada is still hearing "7!! Yes!! Yes!!"
@29:30 Chad super wrong about the outs. including the aces when an ace makes Awada a straight.
How’s the crew doing now?
Great
I think poker go should film these level tourneys again. Make the delay 1 day. Then you can’t figure out your opponents as easily and it’s easier to edit. Take the footage and cut each hand into its own video. Then also create shorts. This helps the algorithm to grow. Then we can grow poker and bring larger events. Poker is hotter than ever.
Back before ICM was considered and people weren't worried about giving tells when folding, making sure they took the same amount of time to fold 7/2 as to raise with Aces.
Honestly will never get why people don't just insta muck when they know they are folding pre. It gives away no info by how fast you fold pre.
Poker Go is so bad, they have to keep recycling WSOP classics (and I love it)💖
“He can win with an Ace or a 5”
34,000 is like what you get for cashing in the main event came a long way
This is not the Main Event, it’s the $1,500 NLH side event
Throwing playing cards through carrots, what a time 😌
This is the year I became a poker junkie
I think poker go should film these level tourneys again. Make the delay 1 day. Then you can’t figure out your opponents as easily and it’s easier to edit. Take the footage and cut each hand into its own video. Then also create shorts. This helps the algorithm to grow. Then we can grow poker and bring larger events. Poker is hotter than ever.
I also think to have the banter and fun like this again there should be tournaments that are restricted by earnings. For example if you want to film funny interesting true emotion film a tourney where you can’t play in it if you have over $20,000 on Hendon. Then you will get mid 2000s poker again
I love the blues music of the video breaks, anyone know the band?
“The crew” is all broke-poker is a wild game!
LOL. Holy shit it did. Soooooo fucking funny and lame.
9:16 Fischman finds out the wrong way to play jiggities
I’d consider changing the name of this video to POKER WAS WAY MORE ENJOYABLE TO VIEW BACK IN 2004. Sadly it’s almost unwatchable these days
What happened to 'The Crew'? 20 years later....are any of these 'Crewers' still playing today?
They're basically all busto.
The relaxation of these people really just shows how much the world/economy has turned. The future is in trouble.
That a3 call was shocking stuff
Are they only showing pre flop jams???
That's all they showed back in the those days, All in, was a casual's catch phase
Pretty much. IIRC these FTs only aired for an hour and with commercials and the interviews they do, you end up not getting to show many non-allins
Yea I mean that’s what made it fun to watch. It was only the good parts. Nowadays it’s 8 hours of boring poker a day they could condense to 1 hour like they used to do. Poker nowadays is almost as boring as watching soccer, almost.
These shows for the smaller events were an hour which means about 40 minutes or so of airtime so they were more like highlights of the final table as opposed to actual coverage
Back when it was poker and before all these GTO clowns took over the game.
Yeah, I mean, why would using optimized mathematical theory ever be a good thing for a game based on...math..?
🫵🤡
@@Rwl751yea better to tank be anti social suck the fun out of poker for bad players. That's so smart!
Fischman name suits his plays.
CONGRATULATIONS SCOTT FISCHMAN
CONGRATULATIONS SCOTT FISCHMAN
even pokergo are using obnoxiously annoying fake thumbnails.
Cry harder
Please explain
Please shut up
What are you talking about??
I love the 'I'm going to bitch about a video/thumbnail without actually watching it' gang.
Flip after flip lol
29:00 no an A would not knock out Joe, sigh 2004 poker.
Folding TT, calling with A3o, it was all so completely randomn
Is this were always coming 7 came from?
Wow
They don’t even mention the event buyin. Like what is this? $1500?
5:55 $1,500 indeed 💵
no stack sizes, make it almost unwatchable.
This is back when they were still trying to push poker tv onto people so I get it, but the commentary is so bad.
I'd love to see how much all the euros would cry if someone celebrated like that when winning with aces. Fischman was pretty obnoxious though..
That's one thing that super tilting to watch is the overreacting excitement win they win.
Wait, you are allowed to show emotion? I thought the rules said you had to act like a robot at all times.
/s
2025, Cry it in.
Awada deserved it the other dudes mad annoying
what a bad winner
Scotts always been a prick and Dutch was always insane 😂😂😂
O yeah, Brets a drug addict 🎉
Agreed, no class
Such boring poker. All in. All in. All in. All in. who can win the most coin flips? I'm glad poker evolved past this.
I mean you do realize this was 45 mins probably from 8 hours of poker or so . If they condensed poker in 2024 instead of showing it all day live. It would be the same thing. Also you started of with less big blinds at the start of every tourney so more all ins happened.
@@KurtyKingKongDong420 Exactly. Make the 2024 WSOP FT (or literally any FT) into a one hour show with commercials, endless in-depth interviews of each player, and random segments like showcasing a few chips tricks you'd get the same thing.
@@Kanders190the in depth interviews were smart they made these people into characters, now everyone is boring they all play the same and have n personality. It’s no wonder it died off in popularity on tv
@@Krausetube516 Eh, it’s lost TV popularity because the game got figured out by a lot of people. It’s tough to make the players into “characters” when the vast majority at these big FTs are professionals or at the very least, very skilled amateurs.
Fishman played that so terrible lol. Money maker luck
i dont remember Fischman being such a douche
lol Chris Ferguson the scam artist.
When poker was weak. Donkeyland. Where is the crew now? Keep talking shit.
I miss professional commentary. The clowns commentating today really put a damper on the already boring play.
The Crew and all ins every hand couldn't be more 2004 if it tried...
We fell in love with the backstories and quick edited segments about talents or hobbies or stories. That would be awesome to see again.