Well... your videos have not helped my bank account lol. I just bought a 2019 F-450 Limited. I’m sure it won’t be long until I put the banks system on it too!
a lower stall speed converter will give you great performance down low but stall at higher RPM and it becomes inefficient, a higher stall speed converter will suck down low but give you great efficiency at higher Rpm. stall speed becomes irrelevant when the converter locks , i don't own a ford so i wouldn't be able to tell you what is is for your truck but that is happening is that after a certain rpm it looses efficiency so it doesn't pull as hard, the transmission is waiting for the speed to try to match the rpm that it would have if it was locked for the transmission to lock. then you get full engine power at the wheels. more power the engine has the easier it is for the converter to get past the stall speed. i own the high output ram and that is exactly why the high output feels slower than the normal ram. the Aisin has a extremely low stall speed converter , i would say past 1800 rpm you loose efficiency and it feels really slow until the transmission locks. but as you've experienced, once it is locked then you feel the difference and sometimes its hard just to keep the speed limit unless you use cruise control because its so sensitive
workplaytv I would trust what they say. It actually makes sense when it comes to all the emissions systems. Egr flow, all that stuff factor in to regen cycles. Cold engines and added fuel don’t agree with dpf filters lol. I would guess that cylinder temps need to be sufficiently high enough when they add fuel not increase soot
Definitely interesting I think it's going to take some time to figure it out. Did you happen to see what your EGTS ? Can't wait to see the towing test great job bud
leardi58 Not sure how much I trust that app either if you look at the speed on the data monster it reaches 60 Be bird the app does. Didn’t look. I will when I’m towing
I use the SCT BDX on my limited with a custom tune from chaos. I’m getting 22/18mpg and my 0-60 with 4500ft altitude is 6.5 seconds lol. I feel banks has a very safe system but it’s not that much power for how much money you’re spending.
It’s a way to tune your truck and transmission and keep it under warranty it’s not designed to make 200+hp it’s designed to make a little more power and torque and be sustainable while doing so you can keep the emissions on your truck.
@@fordfarming7700 Why keep something that destroys the truck. You have no use of the warranty without all the emissions equipment, and they fail right after the warranty is up. Biggest scam of the decade.
When you install a power adding box you can no longer use the trucks fuel mileage calculations! Not just the tires but the box is adding fuel the computer that calculates mileage may not know about.
workplaytv My Ram used to be off by 4-6 mpg lol. After bigger injectors and an edge box😂 everyone thought I was getting 23 mpg getting on it it was really 17 ish
workplaytv You at lucky I’ve been waiting 2 years for great Derringer for my 17 3.5 Gen2 ecoboost.....I am tired of calling them they have it for the 12-16 but still not the 17 and newer.Banks stuff is OEM or better quality,love there products all tested and proven.
Are you worried about your warranty? I know banks says they don’t leave a trace but I think with the engine operating above stock standards they could figure it out.
workplaytv I wonder how fast your 19 350 is stock. TFL Truck did some testing on a 19 and got in the 7s stock 0-60 I’m thinking! I I was amazed! In 4x4 was fastest
Question...if you don’t have a monitor showing you your DPF status, how do you know you were not in regen for any part of the mpg test? When you get your 2020, have the dealer turn on “OCR” on your dash so you can monitor your DPF status (mine did it free because I made it a final condition of the sale after I negotiated my price). I also had my dealer turn off “adaptive learning” features on the transmission so that you don’t have that “dead pedal” feel if you drive light footed a couple hundred miles. If you leave it on, and drive 200 ish miles with cruise or a combo of light foot and cruise, it will give you about 20% dead pedal because it expects you to continue being light footed. Annoying! Lol I’m guessing the Derringer stops dead pedal programming as well. PS I love the 4Runner so far! I’ve got 16 miles on it already! Lol
I’ve been looking into getting the derringer. I just randomly clicked on this video and thought to myself.. that looks like tantallon lol I live in Fall River
Th3edge The Derringer can work with a deleted truck, however, we do not recommend adding the Derringer to a truck that already has a tune. . That was straight from Jay Tilles at Banks
@@workplaytv I'm some what new to the diesel world and am starting to have problems with my def system. Tank heater went out. I am just wanting to delete the dpf and egr. My truck is bone stock at the moment. Could I use the derringer as my tuner when I delete my truck? I'm looking for the top the line tuner that wont ruin my truck.
I would have just gotten a GMC 4500 and saved me from the headaches of towing lol. You can't leave tomorrow morning until about noon for Poo Bear! That's about 9am my time at the latest cause they have my #. I've hit rain here now so I'm back at work till April 2020, www.LoveMyRV.com bottom of the page and to the right click on the Vancouver Island page for Rebecca Spit.
Hey buddy I know I wanted to stick around cause you said the package would be there Friday. I had to leave those and will be back home Monday. I am excited to see what ya sent me. A GMC??? What??? Your smoking that good BC stuff! Lol
@@workplaytv Lol not when it's raining here, pot gets to damp. Notice said it was delivered around 10:30am. If you want to try some stuff from here just let me know, I grow my own stuff. Enjoy the heat in New Brunswick for the weekend, next week it's going to snow. 🤣😂🤣
I'd appreciate an update on how it works in your F550 as that is what i have
Thanks
Well... your videos have not helped my bank account lol. I just bought a 2019 F-450 Limited. I’m sure it won’t be long until I put the banks system on it too!
Gravy Train Outdoors Haha sorry buddy! Damn you have to send me pictures of that rig. Workplaytv12@gmail.com
workplaytv I will! I just saw your response lol
workplaytv I did email you tonight!
It would be interesting to see what Banks comment might be explaining why the level 6 didn't out perform level three.
a lower stall speed converter will give you great performance down low but stall at higher RPM and it becomes inefficient, a higher stall speed converter will suck down low but give you great efficiency at higher Rpm. stall speed becomes irrelevant when the converter locks , i don't own a ford so i wouldn't be able to tell you what is is for your truck but that is happening is that after a certain rpm it looses efficiency so it doesn't pull as hard, the transmission is waiting for the speed to try to match the rpm that it would have if it was locked for the transmission to lock. then you get full engine power at the wheels. more power the engine has the easier it is for the converter to get past the stall speed. i own the high output ram and that is exactly why the high output feels slower than the normal ram. the Aisin has a extremely low stall speed converter , i would say past 1800 rpm you loose efficiency and it feels really slow until the transmission locks. but as you've experienced, once it is locked then you feel the difference and sometimes its hard just to keep the speed limit unless you use cruise control because its so sensitive
Great video! That’s interesting about the ECT being 140. On my 07 6.0 the tuner doesn’t start adding power until my trucks ect reaches 110
Gravy Train Outdoors it’s what the guy from Banks told me anyway. Was thinking 120 is more common but it’s what they said.
workplaytv I would trust what they say. It actually makes sense when it comes to all the emissions systems. Egr flow, all that stuff factor in to regen cycles. Cold engines and added fuel don’t agree with dpf filters lol. I would guess that cylinder temps need to be sufficiently high enough when they add fuel not increase soot
Try it in sport mode. Double tap your TC
Definitely interesting I think it's going to take some time to figure it out. Did you happen to see what your EGTS ? Can't wait to see the towing test great job bud
leardi58 Not sure how much I trust that app either if you look at the speed on the data monster it reaches 60 Be bird the app does. Didn’t look. I will when I’m towing
Tim Hortons cup...yumm. Can't wait to go back to Canada.
I use the SCT BDX on my limited with a custom tune from chaos. I’m getting 22/18mpg and my 0-60 with 4500ft altitude is 6.5 seconds lol. I feel banks has a very safe system but it’s not that much power for how much money you’re spending.
Trevor Krall deleted?
It’s a way to tune your truck and transmission and keep it under warranty it’s not designed to make 200+hp it’s designed to make a little more power and torque and be sustainable while doing so you can keep the emissions on your truck.
@@fordfarming7700 Why keep something that destroys the truck. You have no use of the warranty without all the emissions equipment, and they fail right after the warranty is up. Biggest scam of the decade.
I'm looking to put something in my 2020 Tremor... Can't find anyone who know about 2020's. Will this work?
Yep
Come to think of it where do you buy your fords? Do you get good deals? Would like to ask you a bunch of questions if you wouldn’t mind.
InvertedAerials sure man no worries. I can give you a few numbers of sales people I go with. Email me. Workplaytv12@gmail.com
Great video!! Likely you had heat soak.
It starts with a tune. It ends with a full on BroDozer 😈 Careful man.... haha
Truck Central haha yeah where does it stop?
When you install a power adding box you can no longer use the trucks fuel mileage calculations! Not just the tires but the box is adding fuel the computer that calculates mileage may not know about.
John DiMartino I did the actual pump to pump and it was bang on
workplaytv My Ram used to be off by 4-6 mpg lol. After bigger injectors and an edge box😂 everyone thought I was getting 23 mpg getting on it it was really 17 ish
John DiMartino Hahaha yeah that’s the same with the super chargers. I think where this goes through the ECU it may actually correct that
workplaytv You at lucky I’ve been waiting 2 years for great Derringer for my 17 3.5 Gen2 ecoboost.....I am tired of calling them they have it for the 12-16 but still not the 17 and newer.Banks stuff is OEM or better quality,love there products all tested and proven.
John DiMartino Yeah man they are the best!
Are you worried about your warranty? I know banks says they don’t leave a trace but I think with the engine operating above stock standards they could figure it out.
Has anyone tested this to see the mpg gain?
What app ru using for the 0/60
Alan Serge FastR
Your videos are costing me money! Lol I gotta get one.
Kevin Oakes Lol your welcome!
What about 5
Another great video, I wonder if the difference in level 3 is that something was hotter and it pulled power to save the motor, good stuff.
Myles Hansel Not sure don’t really trust the app though. Looks like the speed on the derringer reaches faster than app
7 to 9 seconds pretty good in such a massive truck. I cant imagine the 2020 6.7 engine with more HP and torque how it would do.
Jake Heke what year is yours
Jake Heke who’s tunes are you running
What app are you recording the times on your phone.
Great footage! Looks like fun! 💪😉
Lol sure was
workplaytv I wonder how fast your 19 350 is stock. TFL Truck did some testing on a 19 and got in the 7s stock 0-60 I’m thinking! I I was amazed! In 4x4 was fastest
L W I’ll hook it up at some point for sure
workplaytv Sounds good 😉
Does this thing help with that mushy pedal?
You bet
Banks also has a pedal monster that will work with the Derringer, really helps throttle response
Question...if you don’t have a monitor showing you your DPF status, how do you know you were not in regen for any part of the mpg test?
When you get your 2020, have the dealer turn on “OCR” on your dash so you can monitor your DPF status (mine did it free because I made it a final condition of the sale after I negotiated my price). I also had my dealer turn off “adaptive learning” features on the transmission so that you don’t have that “dead pedal” feel if you drive light footed a couple hundred miles. If you leave it on, and drive 200 ish miles with cruise or a combo of light foot and cruise, it will give you about 20% dead pedal because it expects you to continue being light footed. Annoying! Lol I’m guessing the Derringer stops dead pedal programming as well.
PS I love the 4Runner so far! I’ve got 16 miles on it already! Lol
Neo Craft hey yeah I didn’t have that up but it is an option.
Hahaha damn man you have it almost wore out! Have to send me a few pictures!
I’ve been looking into getting the derringer. I just randomly clicked on this video and thought to myself.. that looks like tantallon lol I live in Fall River
Tyler Jones Haha Yup sure is. Cheers from st Margaret’s bay road.
Where in NS are you? I am about to buy a tremor and live in Lower Sackville, so your fuel info would be amazing to know
Is this available for the new 2020 PS yet?
Shane Ward Not yet from what I know. Most of their performance parts are still waiting for the 2020.
My speedo on my 2017 f250 only goes up to 100mph
My 19 only gos to 100 allso
This is kilometers per hour
Does the tuner void the warranty?
Bob mar Nope not at all. When it’s unhooked the dealership would never know it was there.
That's false
@@Lumpycrown845 no its not. The banks tuners do not leave a mark on the ECM.
What's the top speed?
Since its not deleted/tuned then 97 governed.
My gauge just goes to 100 mph not 120
Does banks make a tuner for dpf & egr deletes?
Th3edge I’m pretty sure I have seen guys use these in there trucks. I’ll ask Jay from banks.
@@workplaytv thanks, I'd definitely appreciate that.
Th3edge The Derringer can work with a deleted truck, however, we do not recommend adding the Derringer to a truck that already has a tune. .
That was straight from Jay Tilles at Banks
@@workplaytv I'm some what new to the diesel world and am starting to have problems with my def system. Tank heater went out. I am just wanting to delete the dpf and egr. My truck is bone stock at the moment. Could I use the derringer as my tuner when I delete my truck? I'm looking for the top the line tuner that wont ruin my truck.
Th3edge Send me an email and I’ll
Put you in touch with the guys at banks. Workplaytv12@gmail.com
I would have just gotten a GMC 4500 and saved me from the headaches of towing lol. You can't leave tomorrow morning until about noon for Poo Bear! That's about 9am my time at the latest cause they have my #. I've hit rain here now so I'm back at work till April 2020, www.LoveMyRV.com bottom of the page and to the right click on the Vancouver Island page for Rebecca Spit.
Hey buddy I know I wanted to stick around cause you said the package would be there Friday. I had to leave those and will be back home Monday. I am excited to see what ya sent me. A GMC??? What??? Your smoking that good BC stuff! Lol
@@workplaytv Lol not when it's raining here, pot gets to damp.
Notice said it was delivered around 10:30am.
If you want to try some stuff from here just let me know, I grow my own stuff.
Enjoy the heat in New Brunswick for the weekend, next week it's going to snow. 🤣😂🤣