BIG Onion Feeding Update - Myth BUSTED!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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The last time we were in this little shoe box experimental bin we added a really big onion skins and ends feeding. The onions bits were pressure cooked in order to make them more readily digestible by all the bin ecosystem inhabitants.
Let’s see how the worms are doing! Did the onions kill them off like common internet wisdom says it would??
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Thank you!
Yours in the dirt,
Jayne
I've never fed onions to my worms, and I don't know why, but I certainly will be from now on. Thanks Jayne.
Hi Bill! It’s another source for free or super cheap food. And keeps one more food item out of the landfill 👍🪱🤩
Nice casting Jane and happy breeding worms 🇳🇿❤️
Thanks! And thanks for stopping by 🤗
Myth busted for sure!! That population sure is booming!! Excellent video & experiment Jayne!!🪱🪱🪱
Busted wide open! We go thru a lot of onions so it’s great to be able to use the skins and ends so easily as worm food 👍❤️🪱
Hi Jayne. I'm really surprised but at the same time happy that we can at least feed onions to the worms. Thanks for sharing. Take care. ❤️
Hey Bobby! More free/scrap food is great 😍🪱. Thanks for watching 🤗
Hi Jayne, surprising result. I won't be worried about the quantity of onion making it into my bins. Most surprising is the amount of wisps in and amongst the onions, they seem to really like it. Great video as always. Have fun, Mark : )
Hi Mark! Exactly! The wisps were a complete surprise to me ❤️. And the worms didn’t seem to mind the big feed of onions. Great use of scraps my other animals won’t eat 🤣.
I will be giving the worms a more balanced feeding in the future but it was great to soundly debunk a worm myth 😎.
Thanks for watching 🪱👍😍
The color of the castings has to do with what the worms are being fed. Thanks for another very good video
Hey Ric! Maybe it’s the coffee grounds in the basic bedding? The cow manure is a medium brown and does lighten the coloration of the bedding when first made. The worm chow is tan colored and the veggie powder skews toward reddish brown.
I have read where paper gives light brown castings. Cardboard is darker castings. My stuff is black with flecks of white - I assume eggshell or dolomite.
The color isn’t as important as the biota or the NPK of course but it still makes me happy 🤣🤩🪱. Thanks for watching! 😍
Wow! Who knew. Great experiment!
Hey Marva! As I just replied to Katie, I was indeed surprised at the babies being right in the onions. And so many!! Yippee! 👍😍🪱
Hi Jayne,
I was waithing for this update because I also feedback my worms unions and I read different things about it.
Also I started my precompost 2 days ago with your tips. I used some bedding from my rabbits (woodchips, hay and the droppings) besides the cardboard, coffe and vegetatable slush. I Just checked om my precompost and the temperatures are perfect! Its working. I am so happy:)
Hi Rianne! Excellent on all counts! Quite a few worm wranglers had commented on the first onion video that they successfully feed onions too 👍. The pressure cooking vs freezing does seem to speed up the worms ability to plow thru them though 😊.
That’s awesome about your pre-compost doing so well! It’s going to make a huge difference in your worm bins. Are you planning on doing a second heat/cool cycle? 🪱
@@RockinWorms
Yes I am planning on doing another cycle since that makes it even better for my worms to eat. How long should I wait for this? What do you recommend?
@@rianne9236 I like to wait until the first cycle has cooled down into the low 100F range before boosting back up for the 2nd cycle. Are you thinking of adding an ‘accelerator’ like yeast to the 2nd cycle? It’s an option. 🪱🪱
Babies love onions! Who da thunk it?
Hiya! I wasn’t particularly worried about the worms and onions overall. It was a big feed though and that did have me a little worried 😊. But all the babies right in the onions like that??! That did surprise me a lot! Go worms! 🤣🪱
I agree. Those are the darkest, castings I’ve seen. And your worms are so plump toO! 🤗
Hi Renee! It may be the coffee grounds that give the castings the darker rich coloring as inside quite a bit in the pre-compost. Whatever the reason, I’ll take it 🤣.
Sizing up my red wigglers took time. Using more worm chow when feeding helped a lot I think. I was trying the avocado feed as they’re rich in calories too but I lost access to them for now 😩. I do have an avocado tree (small) that is fruiting for the first time so I’m excited to maybe be able to grow my own avocado worm food 🙏😍.
Have you done your first castings harvest yet? You were thinking of trying the sifter bait out method…? 🪱🪱
@@RockinWorms Hey thanks! I think you’re right. I think it’s all about your pre-compost. You have a very lucky worms! Yay about your avocado tree. Those are always so much fun. I just learned how much the worms love oats. I just fed them ground oats for the first time and they are going crazy for them. I hope that helps plump them up. I always love your videos. Thank you.
@@reneemeehan9739 Oats are a great worm chow - either by itself or as part of a more varied worm chow recipe. I normally add it into my worm chow mixes too. It’ll definitely help chonky your worm’s up! 👍😊🪱
Holy Crap 💩 🪱🧅🪱💩 😂❤😂
That's a great experiment and finding
❤Peggy❤
Hi Peggy! I know, potty mouth on display 😳🙄. I’m afraid that generally I have a mouth like the proverbial sailor! 🤣🤣🤣
I’m glad to have tested the big onion feeding myself as there’s so much conflicting information on that. I use A LOT of onions and the other animals (chickens and cows) aren’t big fans 😩. It’s great to have a way to use every single bit of these veggies! Less garbage, more castings! Yippee!
Will you be adding onions to your geobins? That could make a nice short video topic for you too. 🪱🪱🪱
@@RockinWormsit was a holy cow crap lol made me giggle atleast xxxx
@@cherylhowker1792 I know! I sometimes forget in my excitement to keep it as clean as I should. We decided to not edit it out and trust everyone to roll with it 😊😎🪱
@@RockinWorms it made me giggle. Sometimes I find edits make it seem that you have rehearsed it and staged, to me that’s how I find some channels and don’t always think that’s the best.
One boops is ok it’s when it’s constant that people get annoyed lol
Hi! Not sure how to add a picture or a link but I have been using my gardening claw gloves to aerate the precompost bedding, which is such a great idea, and they have made it so much easier on my severely arthritic hands.
Hi Tracey! I don’t think you can add a picture. I think you can add a link though if you copy and paste it into a comment.
Otherwise you can send me an email at RockinWFamilyFarm@gmail.com and include the link there. Once I check it out I can then use a Community Post to share it with everyone else.
I’m so glad you found a tool that helps you! I’m all for making things easier and better still if it’s for a good price 👍🪱
I sent an email with the info from Amazon. I like them so much I ordered 2 more pair!
@@traceybier1128 Thank you, I got your email 👍. What I’m going to so is order a pair and see if I like them and feel comfortable recommending them. Love the idea though! 🪱🪱😎
@@traceybier1128 I placed the order. They’ll come early next week and I can give them a try! 👍🤩🪱
I have a half a coconut in my fridge. Has anyone tried feeding a coconut to worms?
Hey Katie! I’ve not feed coconut to my worms but I’ve thought to do so. I feed coconut to my chickens and it’s healthy for them and good for their crop as well. Worms have crops too so that why o thought to try coconut with them but alas my coconut connection died out before I had the chance to try it.
I do not see why it wouldn’t be a good thing for worms. It does go yucky fast, often developing a pink colored bacteria. I’d be sure to bury it deep to avoid small gnats and things 👍😎. I’d you do decode to give your worms a piece please let us know how they react 👍😎🪱
Ann at plant obsessed says the same with the onions but I don’t think she cooks em
H Cheryl! Yes I think I’ve watch a video where she’s mentioned onions. And Patrick at vermicompost learn by doing feeds onion skins and says his last forever in the bin. He’ll be happy to learn that cooking speeds up the worm’s eating ability 👍🪱🤩
@@RockinWorms I don’t have a pressure cooker of any sorts how else can I cook em?
@@cherylhowker1792 You can boil them and drain off the liquid. The liquid can be used in any compost pile. Its full of good nutrients too 😎
Also, what is the measurement of the bin you emptied the "shoebox" bin into? I'm trying to find a good smaller size to use because of shoulder surgeries.
Hi again. The larger ‘sweater’ or ‘boot box’ is 12.5 inches by 14.5 inches (it varies a small amount due to the handles) and is 5.5 inches deep. 🪱🪱😎
Hai Jayne
What an awesome experiment! I suppose freezing and pressure cooking does the trick for feeding unions 😂
I have a question. When I viewed your videos, I often have to search in the other ones for the follow-up video. Now I’m searching on date and hope to find the follow-up video.
Is it possible to number your videos with a code so it’s easy to find the next one. By example your new experiment is video 75 in your video series. When you start an experiment you could number the new one 75A and then the update 75B and the next update 75C etc. The next stand-alone video you give only the following number. In this example it would be 76.
I think it will be greatly appreciated by all you’re casting cru members 😊
I also wanted to ask you about the wisps. I lately have had small white looking wisps and I am not sure about being RW wisps. Can you make a video about just hatched RW wisps?
For now I pulled out my breeders and kept the bin with the little white wisp with (feeding)newspaper for finding out if they will grow into teenagers and get their right color.
But I am doubtful that they will be RW. I searched for an answer on internet and the only other possibility is that they are “pot worms”. ( I don’t know if it’s the same name in English )
If so, I can dispose them. But then the next question I have to ask myself is, how did they get into my breeder bin? 😂😮
I am greatly thankful for all your info and the videos you made with cameraman about pre-composting. For now I have two 17 gallon containers. One with a 2 time heating up round that’s already been used and the second one is in the making. My max temp in the second container is around 96 Fahrenheit. I am not having the nice orange color biotic that you got but it’s composting so there must be something brewing there 😂
For now greetings to you and cameraman from Holland. Keep up the good work 😊
Hi Peter! I have found that when I cook the food scraps the worm get into the food a lot faster. Also I have found that I get way less mites and other critters as the cooking kills any eggs that may be on the scraps. It’s worked really well! 👍
Yes you probably have pot worms. They’re very common. The are opaque white thin worms. They’re often found it wetter bin environments. As for where they come from I haven’t heard a good explanation for that 😳. I suspect eggs that are in the food or bedding being used.
I like your idea of how to link flow ups to the original video. Sometimes I do more than one check in within a video so would have to work that out. I have also gotten much better at actually doing follow ups 😊.
I’m glad you’re making pre-compost! Sometimes it takes a little while to get the heat going or tweak the process. It took me several batches to get my heat up. I started at 103F/105F and slowly got higher heat. I was quite thrilled the first time I got the tote to 113F! 🤩. The different colors of boots come with different tote temps. The white biota seems to be at the lower temps and the orange/bronze biota is triggered at higher temps.
Composting happens at room temperature. Heating it up speeds the process up quite a bit and we get fantastic bedding and worm food faster! 💕🤩🪱
@@RockinWorms Thanks Jayne for your answers. Great info about the orange biota! It’s the heat I lack, so no wrongdoing here. 😄 just need to fire 🆙 👍🏻
About the pot worms, that’s also crossed my mind, the bedding! I just used some coconut bedding combined with my fist composted bedding. Maybe it had eggs in it. But then the drying process didn’t kill them 😏
@@petervanderbrugge7737 Insect eggs are hard to kill. Pre-compost doesn’t get hot enough to kill lots of things. At the temperatures needed to kill eggs and seeds and all that stuff it also is killing off the biota the worms like! That’s why I prefer to use the shredded cardboard/paper and coffee grounds - little chance of insect eggs. When I use veggie water from garden discard or fruit and veg sellers there is a chance that there are insect eggs. I do think that’s why I get a small number of creepy crawlies. It helps in keeping the pests from p a small number if the bin is a little crowded with worms as they’ll eat the eggs before they hatch if there’s enough worms to get that job done. 👍
I encourage worm wranglers to use what they’ve got, especially if it’s cheap or free. But there are some down sides, like pests, depending on what exactly is used to make the pre-compost mix. 🪱🪱
Good afternoon from Jesus and me!
What is the measurment of your "shoebox bin"!
Hi! The internal dimensions are 7.25 inches by 12.5 inches. It is 4.5 inches deep. ❤️🪱
Myth busting x
@RockinWorms hi, yesterday, I had ytube on listening to what ever it streamed. I had taken my meds so was drowsy so not really paying attention. Suddenly, I was aware of a guy saying he always put his spent potting compost into his worm bins. I have no idea who or what channel it was. I have always put my spent potting compost which I have used a couple of times into my compost bins hoping to get it hot enough to get rid of any nasties. Any thoughts?take care💕
Hey. I guess it would be ok. Worms often show up in outside plant pots and are fine. I just don’t know enough about it to feel confident giving advice on this. I’d also want to do some research on anything I thought might be in that soil - like chemicals or bugs, especially if the worm bin is inside.
Anyone have thoughts or experience on this?? 🪱
hi, Jane,, do you know if cocoons float in water???
Hi! I have tried using that method to separate the cocoons from the castings and it didn’t work for me at all. Everything remained mixed up 😡. It was also suggested that making castings tea would result in any cocoons being left behind in the baggie as the castings went into the tea but that didn’t work for me either. Most of the castings didn’t dissolve into the tea. Maybe I didn’t wait long enough for it to happen …?
Anyway, I’ve actually started a new experiment in trying to facilitate separating castings and cocoons in the last few days- it’s too early yet to see if there’s hope this method will work. 🪱🪱
@RockinWorms hi Jayne, the guy in Yorkshire contacted me and said if I was willing to buy some more castings he would give me 50g of DENDROBAENA, he said he was cleaning one of his outdoor farms and was offering a mix of young and adult. I need some more castings so i ordered 20litres. By the way I notice since I described Indian blues to him he now says in his description, tiger worms, mix red worms and DENDROBAENA. Anyway, the package came the day before yesterday. It has been pouring with rain for days here. It’s absolutely useless cleaning the floor with the dogs running in and out. So I decided to sift through the castings, if you imagine a microwave tub dinner for two. I put 4 handfuls in each time and did ten tubs until I had to stop . The main reason I sift through is because he uses wood chip and that’s no good for seedlings. Guess how many worms I found in the ten tubs with 4 handfuls in each. I have small hands by the way. I found 8 cocoons. How many 🪱’s do think I recovered? Oh, i also removed quite a few pot worms too. Take care💕
Hey Taya! I’m so confused by what this guy is selling. Indian blue worms are called Perionyx excavatus, not dendrobaena. The dendrobaena hortensiais what European nightcrawlers were called before DNA testing showed they properly belonged in the esenia species instead. Euros are now called esenia hortencia although some worm wranglers have been slow to adopt to the new name/classification.
I’d keep those cocoons you found separate until they hatch and grow up enough that you can identify them. I’m guessing you didn’t find any adults in the castings…?
The worm castings should be fine regardless of what worm made them as long as he’s taking care of the worms properly. Personally I’d be looking for another source for both worms and castings 🙄😊🪱
@@RockinWorms hi, he has dendrobena, tiger (so he claimed) now he says he has mixed reds - that’s since I explained Indian blues to him. So i assume he has sortted his supplier out maybe. The 50g he sent look like dendrobena a lot of young ones. The only reason I accepted them was because they are from his outdoor farm, so acclimatized to the cold temps. . I knew he sold dendrobena’s for fishing. The castings - so far I have found 22 cocoons and 51 worms - waiting for these to colour up and fatten to see what they are. Hopefully, i will be self sufficient with what i have now. Take care💕
@@tayag9223 Ah ok. The euros are supposed to be very good for fishing so if he’s selling fishing worms then that’s what they can be. He needs to catch up with the new names though 😊. It’s very good that he’s changing his descriptions to properly match his what he’s really selling. Kudos on that!
You did ok for the cocoons and worms then! You’ll be able to start a small breeder bin, no problem. You can even keep those cocoons in the same bin for ease for the next several months and once the population grows a bit then start a separate breeder bin. That’s what I would do 🤩.
@@RockinWorms they are all small about an inch, now, they could really be that size but I think once hydrated they will stretch out and then hopefully fatten up. I suspect they are all Indian’s. I found two more but they were too damaged to survive. I have about a quarter of the sack left to sieve. I don’t expect to find too many more. this batch of castings has so far, almost doubled the amount of worms I had in the first two castings orders. I think whoever was tasked with harvesting the castings rushed it a bit lol. So I will have two farms of free worms from castings. I’ll keep them separate until I’m sure they are all the same. Looking at it another way, he charges £17 for 20 litres of castings and £7.99 for 50g of worms. By the way, the lady at plant obsessed says Indians like do huddle in or near the corner and they like to run when thunder is around. But she says they are good. Take care💕
@@RockinWorms hi Jayne, well, I finished going through the castings final total =worms 63
Cocoons 34
You said maybe use them as nursery /breeding. How many would you put in a tub. I have one free /spare tub currently, it's not very big though - it's 7litres, not sure what that is in old money. I may have missed the odd one or two, I hope not. They were so black and dry it's hard to tell them apart from any of the wood bits, but a spot of water gently sprinkled on them and left for awhile and they soon pink up and worm ball. Currently they are in the mini farm, which seems to have turn into a little worm hospital 😂. Take care 💕