This is how steroids could actually ruin your Jiu-Jitsu
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2022
- Coach explains how steroids won't actually make you good at bjj. Instead it could make your jiu-jitsu less technical.
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Steroids will help you train 3 times a day.
And not get injured doing it!
Yep how else do they do it?
Also stupid to do
Which kind? I’m on testosterone and my cardio is shit compared to some naturals. Maybe if you’re taking hella HGH or some other peptide for recovery. Even on EVERY steroid you can’t train 3 times a day without issues. Look at Ronnie coleman now.
@@terrynichol577 All SPORTS are stupid. It has nothing todo with health at any sports at top level.
It won't improve your JiuJitsu, but it will improve your stamina, strength, recovery and overall game. Meaning your JiuJitsu... WILL be more effective
that's what I tried telling people about Barry Bonds. He already had an incredible natural ability to read and react to pitches. The steroids allowed him to defy aging as he got older.
Not everyone. I have seen people on steroids that are small and weak. They have zero strength increase with even following a proper diet. It depends how it responds to the user.
That make no sense.
To quote the great philosopher Nate Diaz "Everybody is on steroids", even more so at the elite level.
ADCC and IBJFF needs to get USADA , and watch the kings roll down the mountain , Just like Vitor, Overeem , etc etc the list goes on . Either they go into the dark never to be seen again OR , they are a vapor compared to what they once were , Brock Lesnar , Cris Cyborg ·- Dan Henderson ·- Frank Mir,
Hector Lombard, etc etc ...........on and on ............and on
Just any content from Coach Zahabi is pure Gold.
It's a give and take, while strength, stamina, ability to recover etc all def will play a factor in any sport not just ju jitsu
Steroids for local comps is idiotic. Not only you don't get anything for winning but you're also risking your health
I disagree. It doesn't enhance the level of Jiu-jitsu , it enhances the level of how much your body can take or handle with training. But if you're fighting IQ or say you're just a slow learner, you will not advance anyhow. I've seen guys training more days or times than others, but they barely get the move of the day down.
I've been fighting IQ for years now, and I can confirm that steroids did not enhance my chances of beating it.
Well if theyre worldclass grapplers and are using steroids. It gives access to elevated level of athleticism which allows them to abuse attacks with perfect technique
having low fight IQ is irrelevant to the point of what PEDs do, you're still gonna reap the benefits of more training, better recovery and, therefore, better performance. PED's do not guarantee that you you'll beat everyone else, they just increase your individual ability. In your last sentence, you're basically saying someone can take PED's and still be worse than others which was acknowledged by coach
It will even help slow learners to learn faster because it aids in the recovery of their nervous systems. It helps to retain information. It helps in every way.
Peds allow you to train and grind harder, that makes all the difference. All being equal the “best guy” will win, but peds and access to the best peds is a huge advantage for a small few “elite” competitors… BJJ = pride 20 years ago 🤣
I understand and agree! Question. Do you trust in Gordons Jitsu?
We should all know this by now. As others pointed out, there are A) benefits to size and strength in competition, B) there are benefits to recovering faster (training more). PEDs aren't magic in that they mystically grant you techniques you otherwise didn't have. Of course you have to "do the work." The whole point of gear is to do MORE work.
Also, and not sure why no one ever brings this up, but steroids is also a motivation PED. Having energy is infinitely > not having energy.
So how can one win the adcc without steroids? Is it still possible????
Is peptide acceptable for joint health?
So being able to roll more, practice more, will not make you better?
I’ve seen a lot of bodybuilders who completely stop working out when they stop shooting roids. There’s a psychological effect of steroids, where it also artificially increases motivation. So after a long time of relying on that for their motivation, they lost the ability to even be motivated to exercise .
Plus if you never take steroids testosterone naturally increases when you lift weights.
If you take roids and go off them not only is the natural effect much less, but might actually be almost completely gone because your body can't produce it naturally due to exogenous abuse.
Roid munchers would disagree with you lol rOlDs IsNt a MaGiC piLL 😂
Coach, I would love to see you put a video out on all of the bjj world champions that just got busted for steroids
Is there a way to do steroids without abusing it? Is there a way to do it in a “healthy” way or is taking steroids in any way shape or form automatically unhealthy?
The big question is " why ?"
Why do it in the first place ?? be so pressurised in a situation?
What do you say br. Zahabi?
There should be sauce comps and clean comps with hair samples tested
Looking like the hulk doesn't make you better at squeezing people????
Doesnt help when you look and see the two best in the world, Gordon and Galvao, completely juiced to the gills. Everybody going to the smaller shows is going to try to duplicate what they are doing. Period. By the way, I know you wont ever admit it, but GSP had to have been juiced. Had to. Guy was absolutely shredded. NOBODY looked anything like him back then.
if their bjj was ruined they would not all be on the gear lol
GSP was a dedicated and serious athlete, he was ahead of his time but as a pioneer, not as a cheat. No dodgy tests, no rumours, happy to raise his testing levels, no swollen head, acne, back acne, very veiny, anger issues, gyno (all roid side effects).
@@kgill99 And again, you can never know if he was onto something or not. Unless you used to live in his bloodstream. People get so attached to athletes and idols they forget to keep a clear mind and love the sport and not the athlete. Anyone could've been on anything, people get on gear just for their insecurities , you think people who fight for money wouldn't?
@@kgill99 Thats because they weren't even testing back then. And TRT was legal. Go look at the guys quads, calfs, abs. For sure he was on juice.
@Oodles of Noodles I would say with an extremely high probability he was doing them throughout his career. I mean 99% or greater. People who have done steroids know to even look like GSP on them is difficult. You have to have massive dedication as well as juice to get to that level.
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”Performance-enhancing drug” is a compound noun and operate commonly as a object (direct/indirect) in a sentense, its NOT a subject and predicate.
Do you mistrust Gordon's Jiu Jitsu?
Can always trust Coach to keep it real
I like how all of these conversations even tho we bring up Gordon and the conversation tone is like “yes it obvious at this level” but still not a single actual sentence that says. “Gordon does” hahah. Just always lead with it. Then bring up that it’s part of the sport and all this but never circle back to the fact that people want to hear the words “Gordon is on steroids” hahah
I'm 45 years old. A healthy dose of Dr prescribed TRT has helped me work 50 hour weeks, lift weights and train jiujitsu 3 times per week. Saying steroids will ruin your jiujitsu is hardly the case. Like anything of course if abused it'll hurt you. However, when done in proper doses it will do nothing but help you. Its a highly nuanced situation.
When the TRT wears off, what are you going to do?
The drugs is just for pure brute strength... But if you say to me it enhances your bjj by being able to think faster on a problematic situation when you are about to get tapped and you somehow discover a new move... Then that's another argument!
What do you say ??
I’ve never trained BJJ or cared about it but I like the way you talk about the sport
Edit: never mind heard about your comments on women
what comments?
Is test e good for bjj?
If you're strong you can do apply that Strength to everything, including jiu jitsu but jiu jitsu won't improve anything other than jiu jitsu.
a lot of people take peds just to recover better and train harder, not necessary for strength
Idk man I’m on trt and my body wouldn’t function properly without it blood work and doctor supervision every 3 months
Takeaways from Firas’ opinions here
- Gordon Ryan caved to the pressure of competition and used steroids.
- You can’t trust Gordon’s jiu jitsu because he juices.
🙏
Yeah, Dillon is the real God of BJJ.. At least he looks natural and he's weaker than a bouncer
@@RMJerich0 who?
That is just deeply unintelligent. You can test yourself any technique, it is not a matter or belief. This whole video is pointless, all techniques should be tested to see if you can adapt them to your style regardless of the source
No technically it won't. But how great your jiu-jitsu isn't the only thing that determines the winner when everybody is around the same level of skill at the elite level. When you're at that stage, alot of other things come into effect: Who's physically stronger, who's got abit more weight, who's fresher and is more likely recovered from training etc etc.
Anyone on steroids will have a MASSIVE advantage regardless of whether it "improves" your jiu-jitsu or not.
Gordon Ryan disagrees. He could fight for 2 hours in competitive fights and still dont get tired. And I wont talk about his power and fitness.
Was the black belt silver fox Pravec? He’s clearly juiced to the gills.
Why are steroids not banned and tested for in BJJ?
Money. Very expensive to test so many athletes.
I don't have a problem with athletes using steroids in non-contact sports (baseball, power lifting, body building etc.) But they definitely shouldn't be allowed in combat sports or other contact sports.
Take your vitamins kids
Which is why all if not most modern bjj champions are on steroids.
Firas will never say Gordan is on steroids
Maybe but he implied it many times so he didn t lie lol.
Like when he replied to the question why the Gracie don t like Gordon Ryan he said that they are against PEDs
@@younesbenaddi4721 Yeah, Royce Gracie is against steroids... If you give him your steroids he'll get rid of them for you. Right before one of his fights.
@@Danlovestrivium 🤣🤣🤣
I didn t follow UFC back then it is possible, but Firas did say the majority of them are against and some of them have used them
By this logic, do you condone steroids in high-level MMA? Personally, I think PEDs should be allowed. Risks to health should be fully disclosed, but it should ultimately be the athlete's choice.
I take testosterone and started before I started training BJJ. I keep my levels technically in the natural range, even if it gives a slight advantage I’m not taking ridiculous amounts. I wonder if I’d be better at jiu jitsu if I kept my T low and just took something like EPO or cardarine for the cardio and gas tank benefits. Then you can be enhanced and look natural. If anything I think testosterone is useful because you can train at a higher level for longer and really grow into the sport late into your years.
Id rather take Boldenone over EPO, you can drop dead right in the spot if you dont know what you are doing with EPO and dont have a team that monitors you and knows exactly how to use EPO.
Cardarine is also linked to cancer, dont follow the myth that says the cardarine dose used in rats to cause cancer was an absurdly high amount, it was not, do the calculations yourself or look up other experts and smart people and they all say the same thing. Plus you never know when you are gonna be the one that hyper responds to side effects from a low dose.
it gives you A LOT of advantage.
After a hard training your natural test could crash for hours and sometimes weeks. And even if you do everything calm and healthy - your levels decrease from time to time. when you are on TRT your levels are great (by natural standarts) all the time. Its FAAAR better.
but anyway, I see no reason why a man should not do TRT, especially the one who works out hard. It helps with joints and longevity, despite common opinion based on bodybuilding dosages. Im on TRT since 30 years old and feel much better living my lifestyle. you just should be aware and check health regulary.
Don't listen to people who do not know how PED's work, and never been on anything serious themselves.
Its like saying that being able to deadlift 3.5 times my body weight for 2-3 reps isn't going to help me in grappling, lmao.
Strength, the ability to train for 20-25 hours a week, cardio, being able to weight cut easier. Also every person is different, for some, it will even enhance their mental game and make you a lot more confident. Also there are people who are ultra responders to some drugs, its not the same for everyone, some people literally become a whole other human when on gear.
The old phrase "test is best" remains true. Testosterone will help cardio, reduce your cortisol levels, increase recovery, improve recovery and a bunch of other things I rather mixed. An exogenous introduction of it will always be king over naturally produced. Just push harder.
lol "unless ur training in jui jitsu WHILE u take those steroids, that changes everything!"
I’m on steroids. I’m 49 years old. No way I’d still be training (brown) without TRT. I’ll be using and training well into my 60s. You should too, getting old sucks
It alows you to train more and recover quicker. But it doesn't improve the BJJ IQ.
It clearly helps, that’s why the top guys keep taking it.
Not to mention freestyle and Greco Roman wrestlers
Firas can you tell if someone is on steroids when you train them based on their attitude and the way the drug affects them. 👍
Hi, I know you didn’t ask me but please believe me when i tell you that this is not how it works with modern PEDs. I conducted study’s as part of my education as a psychologist that essentially eliminated the aspect of aggression increase because of PEDs. It’s mostly old school steroids + Hollywood + the people that are inclined to do steroids on lower levels, that led to this believe. Have a good day
Of course it is still possible that an expert practitioner of MMA/Jitsu notices a unusual level of strength or something like that, but mostly the physique is a giveaway for most people. Eye test works most of the time tbh 😅
Maybe if they’re on tren and already have anger issues. However most of us bjj guys are very friendly and happy going people so most likely not.
@@FreshdumbledoreMC Cheers, I was just really wondering if practitioners could notice certain personality traits in people who train on Peds. Thanks for the Input. 👍
Gordon the "liver-king" Gordon
You know if it’s technique or strength.
But this opinion would also apply to people NATURALLY strong.
Physical strength in bjj goes both ways hurts and helps.
Absolutely strength can help you but it can also hurt you.
My coach always says that when you start bjj it's almost better if you are not a big and strong guy, because you'll have to rely solely on your technique to get better and win exchanges, whereas a really strong guy might be able to muscle his way out of some situation and not develop solid technique, which is actually the most important thing in bjj in the long run . Then later on if you want you can gradually add size and strength, because strength is obviously important, but when you are very technical and very strong you'll be another animal to deal with and I see many examples in my gym.
Normally I agree with you coach, but on this one i will have to disagree. Steroids won't make your jiu jitsu better but it will give you some unnatural strength, which will give you an overhand.
Hahaha imagine thinking steroids won’t make you better at bjj… most of the top guys at my jiu jitsu facility are clearly on trt… they have the weirdest grip strength I’ve ever felt in my entire life
None of these roiders will live along healthy lives, the gear will also shorten then jiu jitsu journey. The serious juicers won’t even be around into their 40s. I’m glad I never touched the stuff and I’m a black belt in my 40s, I’m healthy and God willing will be training for many years to come.
They are not all on it?? Ruotolo brothers are natty Roberto jiminez, Dillon danis, tacket brothers, jozef Chen…. List goes on and on. Gordon Ryan is a big guy who forced himself to do what all other guys his size have not. Have superb technique. Lb for lb Gordon is not the best he’s just the juiciest and the best technical big man 🤷♂️
As if it's a new thing.jeeeesus
It's not like the steroids are what makes people's techniques less trustworthy... it's their use of strength to do those techniques.
Didn't Lance Armstrong with 1 nut and steroids win all those trophies 🤔
EPO isn’t steroids. You don’t get stronger from EPO, it’s a PED for cardio only
@@0wnij Lance also did testosterone, further increasing his natural EPO production and endurance
Seems to be helping Gordon Ryan just fine, the anomaly.
Gordon Ryan needs steroids to be that good lol before roids he looked soft and beta, such fragile masculinity, he should join the ufc and test his skills for real
@@modernbassheads5051he would tie you into a pretzel
@@modernbassheads5051 ufc guys use roids
Don't care for steroids or those that use them. However your use of the terms soft, beta and fragile masculinity are tells into your psychology.
You're the kind of guy that easily feels threatened and most probably a fucking bully.
Ill leave it there. Good luck in life, guy.
Personally, I just lift up sets of stairs all day to get jacked. Stairoids, baby.
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Just focus on technique and go on super cycles. Recipe for champions.
That’s a negative
They should learn from cycling, going to ruin the image of the sport in the long term, if it escalates...deaths linked to abuse will not attract sponsors. It just takes one bad story of a high profile athlete to attract a lot of negative publicity..
No way man the stronger, the freakier the muscle the better. Because if you lose everyone will still be impressed with your physique so you’re not a total loser, nice hair is a big plus too.
What is his point? At one point it seemed to me like he wanted to claim that people that train BJJ and take ped's usually stop getting better because they can with brute strength make the moves work (at least against naturals) and therefore don't continue to improve on their technique....but he didn't make that claim, he only concluded that ped's will enhance ones ped's....the OPPOSITE of what the video argued to be about (at least judging the title of the video).
People take steroids for a reason, they work.
You generally don’t need it unless you’re training at a super elite level. Most bjj athletes are natural because steroids don’t help your technique which ultimately is what bjj comes down to
If it won't make them better why do they take it?😂
Aaah, so food won’t make you better at jujitsu? Gotcha.
1:31 so you mistrust every top grapplers jiu jitsu? lmao
I usually agree with Firas but steroids helps. Being strong helps. Recovery helps.
Careful with ridiculous thumbnails like “steroids won’t make you better at BJJ”. Ppl will dismiss you. Not worth the clickbait
The sport needs to clean up.
Steroids also helps with motivation. That's probably 80% or why people use it.
Look at Marcelo Garcia catching a cancer at 40, doesn't even know if he's gonna see his kids grow. It doesn't worth it.
Fighting is brains and brawn. IF you have a good IQ to pick up technique plus a good coach, using PEDs will help you improve tremendously
It’s crazy how he talks about steroids when GSP was on it too
you can be strong and not use strength ... also steriods used correctly will lengthen your life not shorten it. Disagree with coach on this one
Is there any research out there claiming that It can prolong your life just curious I guess if it's used in the right amount it might possibly but don't quote me on that
Did u really compare weed w roids...
Those “kids” be on roids white belt ,blue /purple for sure and they be training all day Strong ass kids matching the strength of grown men who on Roids allegedly One thing I’ve learned is ppl pick and choose who they target and or call out for anything two ppl can do the exact same things and ppl will turn a blind eye to one and crucify the other this whole world be on some bullshit in this way #shout out GSP tho was my favorite fighter when was active in UFC
BJJ is a very respectable martial art, but a very unrespectable sport. BJJ needs to get clean.
So you basically saying gordon is juiced. Ok
Steroids wont make you better at jiu jitsu, thats why every top athlete in bjj uses steroids.
lol
Man ! you can NEVER I repeat NEVER train everyday let alone twice a day WITHOUT STAROOOYYYDS AND AS an adult in combat sports such as grappling bjj mma wrestling! plus add to it all the conditioning that goes with it ?! Wth is this skyzofrenian hypocrisy!? You can't train this shit seriously let alone pro level without steroids and without getting serious injuries if you're an adult not a teen , simple as that! end of discussion!
#2023Stopthecap
'Everybodys on steroids'.
Nate/Nick Diaz UFC!
I get what Coach is saying but when the 5 top BJJ practitioners of the new era are on steroids I mean…come on
Looks like to me it makes it more fun and enjoyable while you’re here being a hater
Lol sorry but steroids will absolutely make you better at jiu jitsu.
Steroids won’t help your jiujitsu…. Eeeeyuh
they look healthy but they are not(abusers and uneducated people) but this is wrong to say if taking it for trt (not a bad thing) but using them with care with the the help of a doctor its not unhealthy
taking roids and you are not already good at what you doing its a waste of time and health
Gordon is the best in the world, so NO.
u weak cry babys shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh😥😥
Bullshit
Orlando sanchez anyone ?
Did he take the convid shot?
Rest in piss