This is why Frieren is a great mage, and Serie isnt. Serie assumed frieren was the only reason any of the mages completed the second trial, let alone the number of mages who did. The reality is that they didnt accomplish all those feats because of frieren carrying them, they accomplished those feats of their own skill and power just from some guidance from frieren and the opportunities she gave them to show it.
The funniest thing about this is that so many fans went “oh wow she must be even better then Serie “ and then it turns out that for her age Frieren is basically a B- mage
I think people need to stop with "power scaling" considering this series has already proven that it values wit and experience more than strength. There's a distinct emphasis on age and the passage of time, and how each character spend it to improve themselves. On that same note, Serie beats Frieren in terms of mana and experience, but it worth noting that doesn't mean Frieren can't be better in the future. There's already theories that she's actually the goddess or her successor considering what she can do with the statues.
Frieren is one of the "genius" level mages. She's a prodigy in magical analysis and deconstruction. In that skill she's superior even to Serie, which is why she could unravel her spell and break it. And later on she figures out Macht's curse-magic and finds a way to counter it, as well, something no mage was thought to be able to do. She also figures out the fundamentals of Solitar's mana-blast spell, which shocks her at how quickly Frieren figured it out and could replicate it.
Frieren is actually very powerful. Her master taught her many powerful offensive spells in preparation for her fight with the demon lord but since the demon lord is dead, she no longer have a reason to use them, that's why she's enjoying a carefree life looking for ancient magic that's only used to make life more easier like cleaning and xray vision. She's a long lived creature, you can't expect her to have greed 😅
@@burns4246 I think she is just a mimic magnet. The ALL seem to follow her and are trying to kill her, but it is pointless. She just blows them up in the end.
Something to keep in mind is that Serie and Frieren has two different perceptions of magic. Serie's magic is to reach new height and became strong. Which is why she approvea Wirbel strongly as magic is nothing more than a tool to be used. Frieren? She sees magic as a miracle, something that defy logic and needed to be cherished no matter how mundane and useless they are. She also improve magic probably a lot better than Serie's due to this expertise of dealing with various kinds of magic. If you compare them both in strength. Of course Serie would be stronger. Her magic slot was meant to be battle-worthy. She is a walking nuke. Her magic is meant to be versatile in the battlefield, covering any loopholes she possesses. A bit spoiler but she is said to possess various spells worthy enough to disable curses directed at her that even losing one whom needed to be re-learn for a hundred years is pretty much nothing. Meanwhile Frieren is more technical in her way of fighting due to her master's teaching. She was trained to slay demons, to trick them. Zoltrak is used because it is cost efficient and effective. She rarely need other spells to deal with them and doesn't bother to go out of her way to learn actual powerful spells and instead chose to improve upon the weak spells (like the golem one). Heck, her style is used by her disciple Fern, she pretty much just spams Zoltrak.
Frieren canonically is better in understanding the basis of spells as she is the only mage who has dispelled the spells of the seven sages and also claims that she can decipher the goddesses monuments
That's fan fiction, Frieren doesn't see magic as some sort of miracle. You interpret that because you think that is the reason why she is collecting grimores. The reason you gave is not why Frieren is the way she is. Spoilers, but she is mourning, and her autistic self mourns this way. Frieren has no problems with combat magic.
What you can imagine about Serie and Frieren is, and I have commented this on another video so the idea might sounds similar Is that, Serie is like the most successful doctor in the world raising her kids (Flamme and later Frieren) to score all A+ in all subjects, to have IQ over 200 and SUCCESSFULLY did it in order for them to be legendary doctors making breakthrough in saving lives and researches, only, after graduation, one of them go and teach an elementary school (Flamme) and one of them decided to just quit school and job altogether to wander around the world (Frieren) as an Asian child, I can totally relate to this Serie is pissed at BOTH of them for this, though she still have a soft spot for both of them (Frequent flashbacks to Flamme in the manga) and deep down she understood, but she just can't accept them as they are, hence she said in the clip and I quote, "Been a thousand years and this is how you say hello?" just like a mother doctor seeing her wandering daughter return knocking down the front door
This is spot on 😂 and also this reminds me of the first time Serie was introduced to Frieren by Flamme. Serie kindly offered Frieren any spell that she wished, like a grandmother wanting to give her grandchildren a gift (while normal people had to go through 3 stages of destruction to become a first class mage to get one, not knowing if they would survive the test or not). But then not only she was blatantly refused by Frieren, she was also roasted by Flamme of how Frieren would kill the Demon Lord and save the world but not her lmao
There are a few logical reasons why Zoltraak, which is a deadly mana efficient attack spell, is the only spell Fern would need against current era mages. The simplest is magic economics. Shielding against Zoltraak is costly but fast and capable of blocking that spell very well, however the shielding it also doesn't do well against physical, so current era mages are well versed in using physical propelled magic to overcome shielding more easily and trained for this as a response. However there in lies the fundamental reason why Fern would always win against the majority of modern mages. Fern has been trained in a way that emphasises casting speed and has built out both mana capacity and hiding her mana, i.e. exceptional mana control. This means effectively Fern is capable of beating a large portion of modern mages as she can force them to use large amounts of mana to defend against a large barrage of Zoltraak, leaving them barely able to attack in response due to the difference in casting speeds. Essentially the same method that Qual developed in response to seeing the shield block Zoltraak by Fern is also Fern's basic method of attack against modern mages. Only a few exceptional modern era mages would be able to retaliate against Fern and put up a good fight against her due to these reasons.
Serie is stronger than Frieren by a large amount, but she also has the advantage of age and experience. Frieren however is a fast learner, so give it a few thousand years and she'll be as good, maybe better, than Serie.
In my understanding serei hates/peeved at frieren as much as fears her. The only strong drive to kill for frieren would be the demons. Thats why if frieren had determined to exterminate everything then acquiring spells in carefully chosen places and spells to defeat stronger opponents would be child’s play to her. There’s a reason why the demons fear frieren and why most powerful demons try to stay hidden and most others demons rethink their situation with her when they realize how powerful she is. If frieren wasn’t so preoccupied with “enjoying” magic and just went back to gaining strength after her teacher passes away then what flamme taught her would make her an existence on par to serei.
hm.. i imagine that with each new level or progression of power at this insanely high level frieren or anyone at that level would have to go to hell and back to make any more improvement. that's how godlike the obstacles are to overcome to get any more powerful. frieren has obvs been at this power level or close to it for a long time now. would make sense to why she seems apathetic and not really motivated to get even stronger.
yeah basic spells is enough to kill mages on this era. who would have thought laser beam spell is more than enough to kill human? why would they even bother with more explosive and destructive spell to begin with?
I mean, Zoltraak is a new spell (80 years) and other people don't use it bc it can be blocked by defensive magic, which can't block physical attacks very well, that's why people started to use physical magic (moving water, rocks, etc). And they weren't tought like fern to just spam it
Frieren giving off Saitama vibes. Often underestimated by people , silent dorkiness personality with overwhelming power. She's literally the female version of him.
she just want to enjoy her life like a thousand life😂😂 but seriously she has this saddest part where her party members became old and going to be dead while she still young because of her life span
@@SB-hq3gb Thats due to RUclips or the uploader using a low resolution clip. In either way the graphics are way better then the few pixels we have here.
"Funniest" thing its that she only did to help some passing friends
SO she must likely wouldnt have done that if it wasnt needed
we'll that's what Freiren personality is...
This is why Frieren is a great mage, and Serie isnt. Serie assumed frieren was the only reason any of the mages completed the second trial, let alone the number of mages who did. The reality is that they didnt accomplish all those feats because of frieren carrying them, they accomplished those feats of their own skill and power just from some guidance from frieren and the opportunities she gave them to show it.
The funniest thing about this is that so many fans went “oh wow she must be even better then Serie “ and then it turns out that for her age Frieren is basically a B- mage
Makes her more bad ass! Imagine if she was AAA+ by Serie's standard. 😅
i think serie’s statements wrt frierens power are meant to be taken with a grain of salt lol
Wasn’t it more just that even if Frieren is strong for her age Serie is way way older?
I think people need to stop with "power scaling" considering this series has already proven that it values wit and experience more than strength. There's a distinct emphasis on age and the passage of time, and how each character spend it to improve themselves. On that same note, Serie beats Frieren in terms of mana and experience, but it worth noting that doesn't mean Frieren can't be better in the future. There's already theories that she's actually the goddess or her successor considering what she can do with the statues.
@@h3rpad3rpacifilisAgreed. Power scaling is annoying. It’s why I dropped most shonen.
this right here is why Serie hates her. So much potential and all she's interested in are stupid spell like how to clean bronze. lmaooo
Yeah you right, she just want to be happy doing basic magic that others called garbage magic 🤣🤣
@@DailydoseAnime только главного чорта почему то завалила Фрирен с гоп-компанией а не Зери.
What youre talking about dude that spell it's fire 🔥🔥
Frieren is one of the "genius" level mages. She's a prodigy in magical analysis and deconstruction. In that skill she's superior even to Serie, which is why she could unravel her spell and break it. And later on she figures out Macht's curse-magic and finds a way to counter it, as well, something no mage was thought to be able to do. She also figures out the fundamentals of Solitar's mana-blast spell, which shocks her at how quickly Frieren figured it out and could replicate it.
Thats right actually
Frieren is actually very powerful. Her master taught her many powerful offensive spells in preparation for her fight with the demon lord but since the demon lord is dead, she no longer have a reason to use them, that's why she's enjoying a carefree life looking for ancient magic that's only used to make life more easier like cleaning and xray vision. She's a long lived creature, you can't expect her to have greed 😅
yeah right 😂😂
She doesn't have greed, because everything she wanted are within her lifetime reach.
@@AldousSeriousPunch exactly. She has all the time in the world to do whatever it is she wants and still have extra time for boredom. 😅
she doesnt have greed? tell that to the minics
@@burns4246 I think she is just a mimic magnet. The ALL seem to follow her and are trying to kill her, but it is pointless. She just blows them up in the end.
Something to keep in mind is that Serie and Frieren has two different perceptions of magic.
Serie's magic is to reach new height and became strong. Which is why she approvea Wirbel strongly as magic is nothing more than a tool to be used.
Frieren? She sees magic as a miracle, something that defy logic and needed to be cherished no matter how mundane and useless they are. She also improve magic probably a lot better than Serie's due to this expertise of dealing with various kinds of magic.
If you compare them both in strength. Of course Serie would be stronger. Her magic slot was meant to be battle-worthy. She is a walking nuke. Her magic is meant to be versatile in the battlefield, covering any loopholes she possesses. A bit spoiler but she is said to possess various spells worthy enough to disable curses directed at her that even losing one whom needed to be re-learn for a hundred years is pretty much nothing.
Meanwhile Frieren is more technical in her way of fighting due to her master's teaching. She was trained to slay demons, to trick them. Zoltrak is used because it is cost efficient and effective. She rarely need other spells to deal with them and doesn't bother to go out of her way to learn actual powerful spells and instead chose to improve upon the weak spells (like the golem one). Heck, her style is used by her disciple Fern, she pretty much just spams Zoltrak.
i respect the mastery of the art of button smashing the same button til dead. or an infinite 1 mana cost spell that's so annoying you'll die.
Frieren canonically is better in understanding the basis of spells as she is the only mage who has dispelled the spells of the seven sages and also claims that she can decipher the goddesses monuments
Frieren is a type of character that wants to do basic, Master basic magic ang wallaaa your strong ASF
That's fan fiction, Frieren doesn't see magic as some sort of miracle. You interpret that because you think that is the reason why she is collecting grimores. The reason you gave is not why Frieren is the way she is. Spoilers, but she is mourning, and her autistic self mourns this way. Frieren has no problems with combat magic.
Basically, Frieren is not the strongest, but she's smartest mage
at 0:21 when you set playback speed to 0.25x and pause at the right time before 0:22, you can see Serie for 1 frame.
Thanks now i see it
Thanks. It's actually at 0:23.
you can just use , and . on the keyboard to move frame by frame
"The never is here." I really like this line in English dub...
What you can imagine about Serie and Frieren is, and I have commented this on another video so the idea might sounds similar
Is that, Serie is like the most successful doctor in the world raising her kids (Flamme and later Frieren) to score all A+ in all subjects, to have IQ over 200 and SUCCESSFULLY did it in order for them to be legendary doctors making breakthrough in saving lives and researches, only, after graduation, one of them go and teach an elementary school (Flamme) and one of them decided to just quit school and job altogether to wander around the world (Frieren) as an Asian child, I can totally relate to this
Serie is pissed at BOTH of them for this, though she still have a soft spot for both of them (Frequent flashbacks to Flamme in the manga) and deep down she understood, but she just can't accept them as they are, hence she said in the clip and I quote, "Been a thousand years and this is how you say hello?" just like a mother doctor seeing her wandering daughter return knocking down the front door
This is spot on 😂 and also this reminds me of the first time Serie was introduced to Frieren by Flamme. Serie kindly offered Frieren any spell that she wished, like a grandmother wanting to give her grandchildren a gift (while normal people had to go through 3 stages of destruction to become a first class mage to get one, not knowing if they would survive the test or not). But then not only she was blatantly refused by Frieren, she was also roasted by Flamme of how Frieren would kill the Demon Lord and save the world but not her lmao
I was hoping for this to cut to the water mage fight and the quote about Frieren feeling sorry for her.
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There are a few logical reasons why Zoltraak, which is a deadly mana efficient attack spell, is the only spell Fern would need against current era mages. The simplest is magic economics. Shielding against Zoltraak is costly but fast and capable of blocking that spell very well, however the shielding it also doesn't do well against physical, so current era mages are well versed in using physical propelled magic to overcome shielding more easily and trained for this as a response. However there in lies the fundamental reason why Fern would always win against the majority of modern mages. Fern has been trained in a way that emphasises casting speed and has built out both mana capacity and hiding her mana, i.e. exceptional mana control. This means effectively Fern is capable of beating a large portion of modern mages as she can force them to use large amounts of mana to defend against a large barrage of Zoltraak, leaving them barely able to attack in response due to the difference in casting speeds. Essentially the same method that Qual developed in response to seeing the shield block Zoltraak by Fern is also Fern's basic method of attack against modern mages. Only a few exceptional modern era mages would be able to retaliate against Fern and put up a good fight against her due to these reasons.
It’s not that she can. It’s why she does that makes Frieren so powerful
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Fern uses Gatling Gun.
It’s very effective.
it's a basic magic but an elite user
She is basically using Qual's tactic from Episode 4. She knows that is an effective offense it doesn't matter who the mage is.
"you dont believe me" shot to the complete destroyed Area, wtf is this Fern
@@darkpaladin8332 yea the mage was flying. why did fern have to blow up the ground
@burns4246 which spell cancel you first with mana problem: flying or defensive?
Что один построил другой всегда может сломать.
agree with you 😄😁
Are you Russian🇷🇺?
@@prajwal1341 да
@@KacheyRU god bless russia may you get victory against nato forces..
Solitar in the shadows watching the whole break the barrier thingy
Serie is stronger than Frieren by a large amount, but she also has the advantage of age and experience. Frieren however is a fast learner, so give it a few thousand years and she'll be as good, maybe better, than Serie.
agree with you, if that happens she will teach everyone on how to master basic magic 😁😁
well it's true but a few thousand years are at least double Frierens current life span
@@rack6911and serie is older than that as well
Frieren Will never be stronger than Serie, basically because She Doesn't want to be stronger than Serie, She could not care less.
That's not a lot of time
In my understanding serei hates/peeved at frieren as much as fears her. The only strong drive to kill for frieren would be the demons. Thats why if frieren had determined to exterminate everything then acquiring spells in carefully chosen places and spells to defeat stronger opponents would be child’s play to her. There’s a reason why the demons fear frieren and why most powerful demons try to stay hidden and most others demons rethink their situation with her when they realize how powerful she is. If frieren wasn’t so preoccupied with “enjoying” magic and just went back to gaining strength after her teacher passes away then what flamme taught her would make her an existence on par to serei.
seire just want frieren to be like her, but frieren just want to enjoy doing nonsense things 😂😂
yeah 😅😅
hm.. i imagine that with each new level or progression of power at this insanely high level frieren or anyone at that level would have to go to hell and back to make any more improvement. that's how godlike the obstacles are to overcome to get any more powerful. frieren has obvs been at this power level or close to it for a long time now. would make sense to why she seems apathetic and not really motivated to get even stronger.
she's born with that kind of magic, she just learned how to suppress it so her enemy wouldn't make any suspicious that she's that strong
yeah basic spells is enough to kill mages on this era. who would have thought laser beam spell is more than enough to kill human? why would they even bother with more explosive and destructive spell to begin with?
I mean, Zoltraak is a new spell (80 years) and other people don't use it bc it can be blocked by defensive magic, which can't block physical attacks very well, that's why people started to use physical magic (moving water, rocks, etc). And they weren't tought like fern to just spam it
Name of outro song?
i actually don't know the title of that song, i just got it on Capcut
Frieren should have passed immediately after breaking the barrier
Hopefully the anime can go till time travel chapters since she did same vine as this but not on barrier. 😅
Frieren giving off Saitama vibes. Often underestimated by people , silent dorkiness personality with overwhelming power.
She's literally the female version of him.
EVEN IS HERE ..
Hear me out,
"the never is here" of the dub is a little better for this specific scene.
Frieren teaching only the basics to her student cause the current generation is only good enough for basic magic 😂😂😂
she just want to enjoy her life like a thousand life😂😂 but seriously she has this saddest part where her party members became old and going to be dead while she still young because of her life span
this literally got released THIS YEAR how is the quality so bad??? In 2024????
yeah it released this year
Dude, you're missing out. This is one of the best shows in recent years. Very moving.
Im taliing about the youtube video quality.....
@@SB-hq3gb Thats due to RUclips or the uploader using a low resolution clip. In either way the graphics are way better then the few pixels we have here.
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