All parents especially singles don’t allow your children to spend the night alone with another child. Because that’s when children are most vulnerable and easy to encourage. Make sure you talk to them about boundaries, if someone touches them inappropriately they can come and tell you and it doesn’t matter if it’s a relative or a friend. We are living in evil times and we must be gatekeepers of our children because the enemy wants to destroy them.
So true... most of these habits are picked up at pyjama parties/ sleep overs etc. Also, trust no one with your children, period.Being married doesn't exclude anyone.
Encouraged because of societies acceptance while you did nothing, encouraged because Hollywood promotes in it's movie messages and you did nothing, encouraged because your state made laws to accept it & coddle it while you did nothing, taught & encouraged in public schools because you let it & now the government approves of it but no longer approves of you very simply because you did nothing
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit! Ye must be born again! For it is not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit saith The Lord!
What we need is love towards our children and others we as parents have to look out for the changes of young ones around us keep on talk to them .As a grandma i never stop let us all pray.
An excellent presentation on dealing with LBJ situation.God bless fellow believers for your seeing the need and attempting to shed light on solutions.with God all thins are possible@
This was a very engaging panel of professionals…. Sodom has not only broken down the doors of the SDA churches but, they have taken away the doors. The world is getting very dark and it’s getting darker day by day. May the Lord grant the leaders of our churches wisdom form on high in dealing with the various issues that are definitely facing God’s church.
the Sabbath keeping will not save any one it is our personal relationships with God. and the Bible says let the weath and tares grow together until the day of harvest
Never heard such biasness and ignorance by a group of so-called men of the church with the exception of the medical doctor. With all the information that's available and still have this kind of thinking is dangerous and to have this pastor of their respective community is very sad. I'm also pretty sure a few of those men in that gathering is either gay or on the down low who sat through that gathering listening to those holy people on their disdain of other human beings. This solidified my reason to dismiss the church. I'll take my chances.
Not only the doors of the SDA, but of all churches, Catholic, Methodist, Anglican etc. when the Pope endorses homosexuality other churches and communities at large are going to embrace it.
These churchmen are just following Biblical teachings. There are so many complex things to consider. The nurse on the panel spoke about hormonal dominance, then there is learned behaviors at a young age sometimes due to molestation and conditioning. Only God has the answer, each is responsible for his own soul. This is a master moral issue for the church and the inclusion of homosexuals. Their lifestyle do not prevent them from being good Christian’s, nurses, doctors etc. They should not be denied essential benefits of everyday living however it should not be promoted and encouraged by the school , the church nor the politicians. Jesus said “ I come not to call the righteous , but sinners to repentance “
Why thank him (the pastor) for something he's SUPPOSED to do? Jesus Always quoted scripture especially while being tempted by Satan after 40 days of intense hunger, more pain, etc. Read his statements for yourself.
@@Cheri1959 Maybe his point is: people are letting themselves be "moved" by the propaganda, and the sad stories, and all the jamming done to our minds, and their points of view often times get muddled by all of that filth being thrusted at us. But we cannot let ourselves empathize or sympathize with sin. Sin is sin. And the only means to put a nail on that coffin is by using the Bible. There is no human personal bias. It's God's word, and God's word is the ONLY ONE that actually matters. He hates what He hates, and He is very clear He wants NOTHING to do with it, especially inside His place of worship.
I’m not a Seven Day Adventist but a child of God and coming from a Pentecostal upbringing many churches attack the behavior instead of seeking to understand the root of what caused them to enter that lifestyle. I was blessed by this panel and it is a catalyst for how the church as a whole should be addressing this dilemma.
Hello my sister, the only reason I know from Biblical perspective the root cause people to enter this perverted lifestyle is the love of sin. There's no way a diligent Bible student can flip-flop seeking for the good/right reasons why he/she or someone else wants to decide to change his/her biological gender to something else other than that which the Bible speaks. We need not to be afraid to call sin by its right name, in fact we love those that are attacked by this evil spirit but we do not love their lifestyle and influence. If the mind of Jesus Christ can be within us, we'll hate sin without exception, and except those demonically possessed repent, they can by no means enter heaven and yea they can't be part of God's church -Amos 3:3.
@@kamangaj.luckson9508 ...I state here my humble view (based on present observation) that intellectual WEAKNESS may very well be...in EFFECT...tantamount to the effect of sinfulness! 😉🤫
I agree sin is sin whether you are straight or gay. The transgender ideology is straight up demonic. We all have been given the right to choose life or death and the consequences follow once choices are made.
GOD IS IN CONTROL we have free will. Strange what we do with such a Beautiful gift. There is still Mercy and Grace we deserve none of it. GOD HELP US ALL. 🙏🏿💜🦋
This is one of the healthiest discussion, I am proud to be a Trinidad, I was beginning to think, I was unique in my perspective, we have been raised by objective people in the past in the Caribbean especially Trinbago, besides this issue which is a minor one we also have other minority issues that is changing our game, the internet has become the playground of the devil, reality has been compromised, religion has been exposed, politics is about to be obliterated, history is on the verge of extinction, family is becoming dysfunctional , yet the church still hold the keys to moulding society, from the looks of things the Caribbean especially Trinidad and Tobago can play a big role to slow the decline of humanity. I like the objective, scientific approach of this group, the question is though how deep should we go into religion, most of our moral compases stems from the influence of religion however that is a technical issue, thanks for this.
A very mature discussion of a difficult issue. While a consensus is unlikely to be reached, the polite respect which the participants demonstrate to each other is sorely missing in many conversations in the US. This is a refreshing revisitation of a complex conversation. Reasonable men can disagree and in the process, often find common ground. I believe that all of the participants were sincere in their beliefs - yet respectful. Thankfully, the participants did not treat this event as an opportunity to create sound bites.
I agreed with you. Very difficult topic. Wednesday Williams said hot topic. But on a serious note. Many churches need to have open forum such as this; not only on sexuality. But marriage. Finance. How to live for christ victoriously.
God is able to keep one from practicing sin. If one wants to be kept. I can not say I want to stop drinking, but still go the bar for bloody mary. Or want to be free from alternative life styles but still visiting or entaining those spirits that attract me to those sexual activities. Flee youthful lust...fast pray. Read your Bible...have Christian friends who will strengthen your walk with christ...we are praying for all of our family members and friends who seem to be facing all types of sexual temptations. God is able to keep some of us as we keep close to his presence. God is able to keep those who are struggling. If they ask God to help them. Jesus said come to me all of you...who need my help...i give you rest..paraphrase...in other word give it to Jesus..Amen."❤
Very informative discussion, has shed alot of light ,my eyes has opened so wide making me more knowledgeable to the different reasons why our young boys are heading down the wrong pathway.
I believe the Church should present love in the right way to get rid of the confusion around the word... and Gay people should be told that we don't live by feelings we live by the word.
Our God is the God of advantage. He plans everything b4 he acts. There are some big plans God made b4 he started acts. (1) God created every living thing male and female to have fruits. (2) than God created a human being male and female to have fruits too. The other plans that God make b4 he creates human, if human fails, I will send my beloved son to die and bring them bk. So, the most plans that God made is, his law, his son, an heaven.
As much as we would want to show our brothers and our sisters that we love them, if we are Christians by which we ought to be living christlike qualities, we MUST stick out with God's laws and principles regardless to the situation or personalities. Right will always be right, and wrong, wrong. There shall be absolutely no compromise.
I work with a young man who was sexually assaulted when they were robbed his dad was a drug dealer and was not home. The robbers came in and killed the lady that was babysitting him, took that little boy and raped him. He told me all about it he said it hurt so bad and I believe he told me he was nine and I asked him why would you stay in that type of homosexual lifestyle, he said what I tried to stay out on it because he wants Jesus. He even married a woman then because of strongholds later failed back into it but I’m praying for him that God would pull him back out and he preached to me all the time sending me scriptures of the gospel
This is such an unbiased, enlightening, informative, and educational platform on the topic at hand. I am praying that the coarse of action taken on the platform to address and deal with the sodomy issue, will be implemented and not pushed under the bus and thus condone the issue in the church. Also, while we are trying to understand and help persons, that we don’t allow them to hold any position in the church before a complete & sincere repentance . Beautiful dialogue. Praise God. Blessings and love
Yes! I am a Roman Catholic, and I am enjoying this conference with Protestant clergymen. And I would say yes! I agree that you must not allow anyone to join your church, especially the governance of your church, until they have repented sincerely and completely of the gay lifestyle. They need to understand the Biblical prohibition against it. Just look what has happened to my church, the Catholic Church. Homosexuals were allowed into the seminaries and consequently to the priesthood, and they have made an abomination of the Roman Catholic priesthood! Of course, we still have many holy and devout priests. But sadly gays have taken control of too many dioceses. Please forgive my boldness in giving advice, but I believe you all can learn from the unfortunate mistakes we have made.
As said, all Christian denominations should learn from the Roman Catholic Church.The main intent of LGBT communities is to destroy the teachings of Jesus Christ. Holy men and women of God should be very watchful, be on the alert.
This was Prophesy by Christ, When the People Rebel against God, God said he will turn them over to their Repterbate Mind, and because of that, Men will loose the very Natural use of a Woman, and Woman will Loose the Natural use of a Man, Men Heart will Fail them for Fear, Disobedient to Parents, Unthankful, Unholy. Lovers of Pleasure more than Lovers of God. Prophesy is fulfilling right before our very eyes. This have to happen, Christ said Heaven and Earth, will pass before one of his Word Pass. That mean every living Soul will Die but his Word will NEVER. His Word is FOREVER. We are so Spiritually Blind, The bible is fulfilling right before our Eyes, and we don't even Know it. The Only way out of this is REPENTANCE and turn to God.
GOD SMILES upon all of you who made this TOPIC.... presented for all to understand GOD'S COMMANDMENT..MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU BRAVE men of GOD!!! SHALOM!!!
This is Bro.Hodge in Anguilla inreference to the subject being dicuss ,we must also understand that God never made us robots .he made us with the power to choose , we cannot expect any one to bear or carry the consequences of choise but overselves .we destroy ourselves when we choose not to follow sacred instructions.
I’m a stay at home Seventh Day Adventist. I’ve shared Romans1:18-32. The truth will set you free. The religious groups don’t want to know truth. All they say is pray for us.
Thank you for introducing clear Bible evidence that few even quote. Yet it is a clear sign we're living in the last days. It is a sin that is called an abomination in God's sight. But the state of affairs in the church does not or should give license to be a stay at home Adventist. God has ordained we should have fellowship with other believers for Christian growth & development, and have opportunities for service.
I...was. Baptist. In the. Seventh. Days. Adventist. Church God. Open..my. eyes to see so many. Things 🎉🎉🎉🎉 in my life Lord go's. You are my. Way. Maker in every thing. I. Do.
I respectfully suggest that both Dr Tobias and Ps. Moses made reference to many texts. Ps. Moses read several texts to support the church's stance on the topic.
Thank God for this interview. I gained a lot of knowledge to help me in parenting my 17 and 9 years old children who continuously asks questions on this difficult topic. God bless you all
I'm a SDA and I don't think the church should chase these people out of the church, but what we should do is not to use them as leaders or to give them any position. We should show them from the word of God how sinful and abominable this life style is.
@@ritadavis4953 and that they need to REPENT and ask the Lord for His FORGIVENESS , and His DELIVERANCE and live for Him in HOLINESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Appreciate this open intelligent diecussion.... And most affirming is that rhe CHURCH is examiming and offering positive primotion of the biblical mandate to love the person as the Holy Spirit does the internal teansforming work.
Excellent program, very refreshing to see real men addressing real issues according to GODS Holy word. I thoroughly enjoyed the detail of the answers and the courage was which way they were expressed. I pray that this takes root in all Christian churches so we the global patriot Christians may take back His world.
I am gay and so was my identical Twin. I say he was because he was Murdered!!! Shortly after his funeral some woman told me his murder was a message from GOD!! She said the message was that my twin is in Hell and I will go there too if I don't change!!!!! The rude, coldness of that woman I will never forget!!! My brother & I were gay sinse we can remember, it is Not a Choice!!!!!! I have a personal relationship with God, I was once suicidal but am not anymore, My God knows who and what I am and only he is the judge. He will also judge those who judge others with their bible quotes!!! My twin was a nurse helping to save people. Violence against gay people sometimes happens because of all the negativity & judgement of gays & transexuals! Let us all live in peace with one another. GOD BLESS!
It must be horrible to hear and read all these people essentially lying about how gay people feel and how they are. The unfortunate thing with all the people who condemn these people, is that 80% of the world population is straight and the rest are a combination of gay, bisexual, lesbian, transexual and transgender. The 20% mix of LGBTQIA people make the 80% so uncomfortable that the straight people are willing to cause harm to the LGBTQIA people. Most of the people who hate the LGBTQIA people are generally religious, but in particular from the Islamic and Christian religions. A lot of their members, as you can hear from the panel and can read from this posts, are foot soldiers who are ready to commit atrocities that the Bible specifically and their religious leaders in particular tell them to do. As you must have noted over the years, the believers want so desperately to hurt LGBTQIA people, women, children, and other vulnerable groups. That is why Christians here in the US have the most guns, and do the most harm with gun violence. Christians are the majority mass shooters and they live to shoot down Jews, blacks, gay people, indigenous people, children, etc. Just some decades ago, white Christians in the US used to go about black homes, burn crosses on their lawn, and hang the black persons on trees with the noose (rope) to show every other black people that they too will be hanged if they don't follow their white rules. These were all Christian folks doing this. The problem is that once anyone (even if they are black) take on Christianity, they will eventually become hateful and harmful believers, ready to commit atrocities against vulnerable groups of people. You can see that the doctor, moving his wrists like some gay men do, is even more determined to condemn gay people. Possible being gay himself, but unfortunately Christian may make him even more dangerous to other gay people. In the effort to prove that he is not gay, he causes even more harm to his own fellow gay people. It is a dire situation. You will hear so many Christians justifying the abuses. It is really gross and disgusting how these awful Christians are. I hope all LGBTQIA people, women and children will continue to be careful around all these dangerous Christians. They mean real harm to vulnerable groups. PLEASE BE REALLY CAREFUL AROUND THEM, AND STAY SAFE!!!!!!!
@donald....I've prayed to God Almighty for your protection and peace of mind. * * When you read the Bible and pray, may Jesus Christ reveal to you what is needed to speak God's peace into your heart. * * Sometimes, people need to change who surrounds them and their environment to gain strength to change from within. Stay strong and Trust God..
Very interesting panel...I attended Atlantic Union College., SDA College located in So. Lancaster, MA. We had a student in the dorm ,Atlantic Union College, whom was raised by his Aunt . She taught him how to sew, crochet, and he walked feminine. We don't believe he was gay. He used to type over 90 words per minute. He typed one one of my term papers one year. many students went to him to have term papers typed. I believe the environment we were raised in CT would impact the results.
...PRECISELY! Feminine characteristics of male persons do not predictably equate with homosexuality, nor do masculine overtone/s of a woman necessarily indicate lesbianism. AND...incidentally...i cannot overstand why A God...in ALL IT'S omnipresent wisdom...having alledgedly purposefully created mankind "in IT'S image"... to follow a behavioral pattern of such social hypocrisy. 😝
Keep taking this STAND, pure theology! There is more than enough evidence that PPL will do whatever they really want to do! True, there are PPL who struggle with this challenging issue, BUT I know without Contradiction GOD delivers ANYONE who sincerely desires to live a holy life. The temptation is real for some, BUT In CHRIST JESUS. There are ppl every day who are ex-gay, ex-transgender, ex-transsexual and ex-lesbian etc. God Will deliver if you want- I have seen him do it. Pray for Your little boys and girls! ❤️🩹😇❤️🩹
What a God led discussion on this very emotive topic. Thank you everyone who sought answers and to those who ably responded with God directed answers. God is always in control.
Very educational i learnt so much from just listening to this program. Just came across this channel and conference. Very good teaching and discussion..
As the lord says ,put on the full amour of GOD when fighting evil. Such discussion should be opened with prayers and references of the Bible verses should be dominating such major issues.. satan is not easy to fight without GOD presence invited in such.
Adam & Adam it’s a bad news .God he’s not crazy .Tell me what’s wrong with Marie? I know she give birth to us 😊Now I think it’s about time for real women to start suing those LGBTQ Groups
😂😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😅😅 😢😢😢😢😢. I was looking 4 Marie but I still couldn't find her. Oh well, I just found Marie but is not she, is he now with a lot of things change. Wow, she got a beard with heavy voice and a flat chest. 😅😅😅😅😅
i find this interesting, my only wish was for my husband to be atleast like one of these Godly men, i remember in 2019, i went as much as asking God to give me Men wisdom, LOL i would listen to Christian program of male in court which was broadcasted at a local radio Jesu ke Karabo fm on saturdays evening, i was tired of the dysfunction in our home, headless home, i wanted to see God from the male perspective, and the more i desired that the more i loved that idea, i received God's true peace, i would enjoy the quietness, i even had the desire to attend male conference, the more i received from what is being taught i would pray that my husband receives the same thing, i eventually loved the program for myself at a later stage,
I honestly don't believe that Church as a whole regardless of what denomination or if it's called a non denominational Should entertain LGBTQ Communities. At its core they are proud, boasters whose goal is aimed at destroying God's will on earth. They are filled with strong delusions of themselves and they are proud of it. They are Confused. However if anyone is able to deliver help them to deliver them from themselves it God. I believe the sin that Homosexuality is an Abomination as was stated by one of the gentlemen. What do you do with a cult of people whose mindset is so proud of their own sinful nature. What do you do when the government won't stop the insurrection against God's holy word and is promoting it upon the society of our world. Get out and vote for a candidate that is willing to with a stroke of a pin abolish such foolishness against our God and his people. Don't vote for Obama type of people and don't mean color or race but vote for someone with morals and not as Obama who proved he had high tolerance for sin and is the one who let the demons out on us along with neighboring nations who support it. Not as Joe Biden who won't reverse a law because of Votes. Our Children deserve to not be forced to accept ot in our schools. they need to know it is wrong and that is is not normal
There are people both male and female who are born with both genitals. What about chromosomes. Females are XX males are XY. Some males X chromosome are stronger that the Y chromosome. What do you think about that.
The panel makes it seem like if , for example an alcoholic attends the church that person can cause others to be alcoholics also. They are in effect saying gay members can cause others to be gay also. Jesus said He came not to judge but to save. He said the two greatest Commandments is to love God with all our hearts mind and spirit and to love others. Men stop trying to play god and act like they have all the answers. Please leave judgement to God
For those who like to talk about God made Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve, please explain, is a hermaphrodite Adam or Eve. There are things we do not have an answer for, and should admit we do not know, but one day we will understand.
I can testify about this an adoptive relative was born with both male and female organs and as the young child grew the female gender was more prevalent by age 5. The parents had the male organs removed, she grew into a beautiful young lady, married and had children living a vibrant life.
Ofcourse anyone could change. We ought to hold God accountable for all hispromises and for what he tells us. He tells us with him and in him ALL is possible.
By the snickering on the panel members, it apears that they have studied, or accepted lilttle on what the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy say on the subject of spiritual warfare. Paul was clear, and for ordained ministers (regardless of their position) to snicker on this is beyond rude and ignorant.
Nobody is born a thief or a liar, therefore no one is born gay, we're all born with sinful tendencies, but we must overcome them by the grace of God in order to enter the kingdom of God.
Very true, and most churches do not want to admit this is a demonic manifestation. Many believers are filled with demons, they are real and they cause division and all kinds of filth in the body of Christ. Only the blood of Jesus Christ and a repentant heart can free us from the bondage of sin, and especially sexual sin. Only by the power of the Holy Spirit and the blood ofJesus can we ever hope to be set free. Most churches refuse to speak about the power of the blood and the reality of demons.
Thankyou lord for that topics...God takes control to our BOYS.SOME pe😢ople will say they've born like. I would never accept.i pray everyday about it pls help me in prayer am hurting. Thankyou
Exactly! People always stay "on the surface", as to avoid hurting feelings or getting attacked... That is why I love Voddie Bauchman. He says it like it is. No acceptance.
I had two people in my life that was practicing the guy lifestyle, one is my stepson, how he was interduice, his mom is Pentecostal but his grandma was Baptist, when his mom got married his grandma refused to give him to his mom, his Dad ask for him also but she refused, his cousins they were Baptist and lived in the same Yard, he started to go to church with them he wanted to get at his mom because he felt that he was ignored by his mom, now she had a family,so he when deeper and deeper into the spiritual realm, and when he was on the monin ground he was initiated by the one who was his helper, after that time he spent on the ground, and he come out he was a homosexual, he stayed by me for a while I was very sympathetic to him know that he was craving his father's love I spoke to my husband and he responded, i did birthday party for him I showed him love and get my children involved, i did not let my children know what was going on with him until one day he tried to initiate my first Son I that is when I told his father, and his siblings,I think his father was in denial, wasn't long after he had full blown AIDS, I never show him any indifference, I continue to show him love and support in prayer, he is my husband's first child and all my children relates with him, I must say he confess he has changed, to Jehovah God be the glory. This was about 2012 The other young man, I met him coming from the Airport, he was from Guyana, he came to Trinidad invited by a guy friend, we took the same car from the Airport, he said he went to Post of Spain and don't see the friend and was going back into Port of Spain it was about 9pm and I can here the voice of the Holy Spirit saying to me if he go in Port of Spain they will kill him take him home, my husband was at home, when we get there he opened the door and this man was with me I don't know him, he was a perfect stranger, but one thing my husband and I observe, and said nothing to him is that he was a homosexual, we made him feel very welcome that night and in the morning my husband took him to the Airport, he eventually called and say thank. To God be the glory, we always have to ask ourselves how will Jesus Christ had delt with this situation, we are his hands, His feet and His mouth piece.
That's why I will always love Apostle Gino Jennings. ❤❤❤❤he beat you all with the Bible. He is one Pastor who doesn't sugarcoat the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
All parents especially singles don’t allow your children to spend the night alone with another child. Because that’s when children are most vulnerable and easy to encourage. Make sure you talk to them about boundaries, if someone touches them inappropriately they can come and tell you and it doesn’t matter if it’s a relative or a friend. We are living in evil times and we must be gatekeepers of our children because the enemy wants to destroy them.
Yes and make prayer a daily meal. Prayer is communication with God and prayer keeps away SIN
Yes never leave children with children. Not to use children to be a babysitter. Not in the least bit.
So true... most of these habits are picked up at pyjama parties/ sleep overs etc. Also, trust no one with your children, period.Being married doesn't exclude anyone.
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Encouraged because of societies acceptance while you did nothing, encouraged because Hollywood promotes in it's movie messages and you did nothing, encouraged because your state made laws to accept it & coddle it while you did nothing, taught & encouraged in public schools because you let it & now the government approves of it but no longer approves of you very simply because you did nothing
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit!
Ye must be born again!
For it is not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit saith The Lord!
Churches are not standing against sin anymore because most of the pastor is not living according to the words of God.
What we need is love towards our children and others we as parents have to look out for the changes of young ones around us keep on talk to them .As a grandma i never stop let us all pray.
THE WORD OF GOD WILL STAND FOREVER AS A ROCK,.
Yes. God's word will never pass away.
One of the best discussions I have heard on the subject. Praise God.
So true.
An excellent presentation on dealing with LBJ situation.God bless fellow believers for your seeing the need and attempting to shed light on solutions.with God all thins are possible@
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I agree
I admire you Dr.Ocho! Your honesty and openness is admirable.
This was a very engaging panel of professionals…. Sodom has not only broken down the doors of the SDA churches but, they have taken away the doors. The world is getting very dark and it’s getting darker day by day. May the Lord grant the leaders of our churches wisdom form on high in dealing with the various issues that are definitely facing God’s church.
the Sabbath keeping will not save any one it is our personal relationships with God. and the Bible says let the weath and tares grow together until the day of harvest
Never heard such biasness and ignorance by a group of so-called men of the church with the exception of the medical doctor. With all the information that's available and still have this kind of thinking is dangerous and to have this pastor of their respective community is very sad. I'm also pretty sure a few of those men in that gathering is either gay or on the down low who sat through that gathering listening to those holy people on their disdain of other human beings. This solidified my reason to dismiss the church. I'll take my chances.
Not only the doors of the SDA, but of all churches, Catholic, Methodist, Anglican etc. when the Pope endorses homosexuality other churches and communities at large are going to embrace it.
These churchmen are just following Biblical teachings. There are so many complex things to consider. The nurse on the panel spoke about hormonal dominance, then there is learned behaviors at a young age sometimes due to molestation and conditioning. Only God has the answer, each is responsible for his own soul. This is a master moral issue for the church and the inclusion of homosexuals. Their lifestyle do not prevent them from being good Christian’s, nurses, doctors etc. They should not be denied essential benefits of everyday living however it should not be promoted and encouraged by the school , the church nor the politicians. Jesus said “ I come not to call the righteous , but sinners to repentance “
@@hopethompson1920That's so true. Exactly
God's word will stand for ever!
Yes forever can't go void.
A straightforward and truthful discussion about this topic. Thus says YAH
Thank you, pastor for quoting from the Bible!
Amen!
Why thank him (the pastor) for something he's SUPPOSED to do? Jesus Always quoted scripture especially while being tempted by Satan after 40 days of intense hunger, more pain, etc. Read his statements for yourself.
@@Cheri1959 Maybe his point is: people are letting themselves be "moved" by the propaganda, and the sad stories, and all the jamming done to our minds, and their points of view often times get muddled by all of that filth being thrusted at us.
But we cannot let ourselves empathize or sympathize with sin. Sin is sin. And the only means to put a nail on that coffin is by using the Bible. There is no human personal bias. It's God's word, and God's word is the ONLY ONE that actually matters. He hates what He hates, and He is very clear He wants NOTHING to do with it, especially inside His place of worship.
@@Cheri1959”Thank you” is an expression of Gratitude. Do you not say, “thank you” to anyone who provides you with a service that is their job to do?🤔
First time I say this discussion.
It was worth listening to.
Thank you all.
Enjoyed this discussion.
I’m not a Seven Day Adventist but a child of God and coming from a Pentecostal upbringing many churches attack the behavior instead of seeking to understand the root of what caused them to enter that lifestyle. I was blessed by this panel and it is a catalyst for how the church as a whole should be addressing this dilemma.
Hello my sister, the only reason I know from Biblical perspective the root cause people to enter this perverted lifestyle is the love of sin. There's no way a diligent Bible student can flip-flop seeking for the good/right reasons why he/she or someone else wants to decide to change his/her biological gender to something else other than that which the Bible speaks. We need not to be afraid to call sin by its right name, in fact we love those that are attacked by this evil spirit but we do not love their lifestyle and influence. If the mind of Jesus Christ can be within us, we'll hate sin without exception, and except those demonically possessed repent, they can by no means enter heaven and yea they can't be part of God's church -Amos 3:3.
@@kamangaj.luckson9508 ...I state here my humble view (based on present observation) that intellectual WEAKNESS may very well be...in EFFECT...tantamount to the effect of sinfulness! 😉🤫
I too am not SDA but I enjoyed this panel's discussion.
I agree sin is sin whether you are straight or gay. The transgender ideology is straight up demonic. We all have been given the right to choose life or death and the consequences follow once choices are made.
Children need their fathers so badly ! Men please be the man God created you to be !
GOD IS IN CONTROL we have free will. Strange what we do with such a Beautiful gift. There is still Mercy and Grace we deserve none of it. GOD HELP US ALL. 🙏🏿💜🦋
This is a Brilliant discussion, Brethren. God bless you for the way this was tackled. ❤❤❤❤
This is one of the healthiest discussion, I am proud to be a Trinidad, I was beginning to think, I was unique in my perspective, we have been raised by objective people in the past in the Caribbean especially Trinbago, besides this issue which is a minor one we also have other minority issues that is changing our game, the internet has become the playground of the devil, reality has been compromised, religion has been exposed, politics is about to be obliterated, history is on the verge of extinction, family is becoming dysfunctional , yet the church still hold the keys to moulding society, from the looks of things the Caribbean especially Trinidad and Tobago can play a big role to slow the decline of humanity. I like the objective, scientific approach of this group, the question is though how deep should we go into religion, most of our moral compases stems from the influence of religion however that is a technical issue, thanks for this.
A very mature discussion of a difficult issue. While a consensus is unlikely to be reached, the polite respect which the participants demonstrate to each other is sorely missing in many conversations in the US. This is a refreshing revisitation of a complex conversation. Reasonable men can disagree and in the process, often find common ground. I believe that all of the participants were sincere in their beliefs - yet respectful. Thankfully, the participants did not treat this event as an opportunity to create sound bites.
I'd rather respect my God first before human beings.
I agreed with you. Very difficult topic. Wednesday Williams said hot topic. But on a serious note. Many churches need to have open forum such as this; not only on sexuality. But marriage. Finance. How to live for christ victoriously.
Very knowledgeable panel wealth of experience and professionalism, and mutual respect.
God is able to keep one from practicing sin. If one wants to be kept. I can not say I want to stop drinking, but still go the bar for bloody mary. Or want to be free from alternative life styles but still visiting or entaining those spirits that attract me to those sexual activities. Flee youthful lust...fast pray. Read your Bible...have Christian friends who will strengthen your walk with christ...we are praying for all of our family members and friends who seem to be facing all types of sexual temptations. God is able to keep some of us as we keep close to his presence. God is able to keep those who are struggling. If they ask God to help them. Jesus said come to me all of you...who need my help...i give you rest..paraphrase...in other word give it to Jesus..Amen."❤
Why you people comprise the word of the Lord
Very informative discussion, has shed alot of light ,my eyes has opened so wide making me more knowledgeable to the different reasons why our young boys are heading down the wrong pathway.
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Thank you men. May the Lord keep you safe from sin
I believe the Church should present love in the right way to get rid of the confusion around the word... and Gay people should be told that we don't live by feelings we live by the word.
Absolutely true
Yes, you just got the facts right. God bless.
God's plan is the only plan that will get you in heaven ❤
Our God is the God of advantage. He plans everything b4 he acts. There are some big plans God made b4 he started acts. (1) God created every living thing male and female to have fruits. (2) than God created a human being male and female to have fruits too. The other plans that God make b4 he creates human, if human fails, I will send my beloved son to die and bring them bk. So, the most plans that God made is, his law, his son, an heaven.
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Excellent explanation Dr. Ocho!!
Pastor Dottin you are on point!!
As much as we would want to show our brothers and our sisters that we love them, if we are Christians by which we ought to be living christlike qualities, we MUST stick out with God's laws and principles regardless to the situation or personalities.
Right will always be right, and wrong, wrong. There shall be absolutely no compromise.
I work with a young man who was sexually assaulted when they were robbed his dad was a drug dealer and was not home. The robbers came in and killed the lady that was babysitting him, took that little boy and raped him. He told me all about it he said it hurt so bad and I believe he told me he was nine and I asked him why would you stay in that type of homosexual lifestyle, he said what I tried to stay out on it because he wants Jesus. He even married a woman then because of strongholds later failed back into it but I’m praying for him that God would pull him back out and he preached to me all the time sending me scriptures of the gospel
He really needs very intense therapy. He's a victim of a horrific crime.
You should share this video with him, maybe.
@@intensepassion3382 oh, I will
Thank you for sharing
You can't change being gay!!!!
This is such an unbiased, enlightening, informative, and educational platform on the topic at hand. I am praying that the coarse of action taken on the platform to address and deal with the sodomy issue, will be implemented and not pushed under the bus and thus condone the issue in the church. Also, while we are trying to understand and help persons, that we don’t allow them to hold any position in the church before a complete & sincere repentance . Beautiful dialogue. Praise God. Blessings and love
Yes! I am a Roman Catholic, and I am enjoying this conference with Protestant clergymen. And I would say yes! I agree that you must not allow anyone to join your church, especially the governance of your church, until they have repented sincerely and completely of the gay lifestyle. They need to understand the Biblical prohibition against it. Just look what has happened to my church, the Catholic Church. Homosexuals were allowed into the seminaries and consequently to the priesthood, and they have made an abomination of the Roman Catholic priesthood! Of course, we still have many holy and devout priests. But sadly gays have taken control of too many dioceses.
Please forgive my boldness in giving advice, but I believe you all can learn from the unfortunate mistakes we have made.
@@martaacosta4415 You are a fool. God is love and He loves his handywork. Wake TFU.
Well said. I concur with you
Take heed less ye fall. This is end times and there are many serious issues confronting us. We earnestly need God’s guidance and strength.
As said, all Christian denominations should learn from the Roman Catholic Church.The main intent of LGBT communities is to destroy the teachings of Jesus Christ. Holy men and women of God should be very watchful, be on the alert.
We are all born with a sinful nature because of the fall with Adam. That's why we must submit to God and be born again, in Jesus' name!
This was 4 years ago. Now I wonder how far they have come.
4 years is still revelant,as if it just happening now.i am just seeing it
Amen pastor God can help us to overcome you educated me as a parent
Amen
I am loving this ,to see the men.i am from another church SO I APPLAUD YOU ALL .GREAT FORUM AND PANEL
Our Lord Jesus Christ can change any life.
Dr Myles MUNROE., i wish you were alive to be apart of this forum.
This man in the colored shirt spoke very intelligent
This was Prophesy by Christ, When the People Rebel against God, God said he will turn them over to their Repterbate Mind, and because of that, Men will loose the very Natural use of a Woman, and Woman will Loose the Natural use of a Man, Men Heart will Fail them for Fear, Disobedient to Parents, Unthankful, Unholy. Lovers of Pleasure more than Lovers of God.
Prophesy is fulfilling right before our very eyes. This have to happen, Christ said Heaven and Earth, will pass before one of his Word Pass. That mean every living Soul will Die but his Word will NEVER. His Word is FOREVER. We are so Spiritually Blind, The bible is fulfilling right before our Eyes, and we don't even Know it. The Only way out of this is REPENTANCE and turn to God.
Thank-you Glenda!
Well said ...Sis
That was SO incredibly WELL done!!! Very informative and impressive! I love the passion of the panelists!
Interesting and informative discussion
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GOD SMILES upon all of you who made this TOPIC.... presented for all to understand GOD'S COMMANDMENT..MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU BRAVE men of GOD!!!
SHALOM!!!
We must stand for what the BIBLE stand for God made us wonderful
Yes our Church leader should be able to handle the issues if they alone God leading in their lives God will not leave us with our wisdom
I am speechless this was an awesome program to see so many men together bless my heart ❤❤
It was very informative, clarity was defined and the panel was realistic. Thank you
Amen 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
Just came across this channel and conference. Very good teaching and discussion.
God said in his word this is forbidden.. God's word is above all.Amen..
This is Bro.Hodge in Anguilla inreference to the subject being dicuss ,we must also understand that God never made us robots .he made us with the power to choose , we cannot expect any one to bear or carry the consequences of choise but overselves .we destroy ourselves when we choose not to follow sacred instructions.
I’m a stay at home Seventh Day Adventist. I’ve shared Romans1:18-32. The truth will set you free. The religious groups don’t want to know truth. All they say is pray for us.
Thank you for introducing clear Bible evidence that few even quote. Yet it is a clear sign we're living in the last days. It is a sin that is called an abomination in God's sight. But the state of affairs in the church does not or should give license to be a stay at home Adventist. God has ordained we should have fellowship with other believers for Christian growth & development, and have opportunities for service.
I...was. Baptist. In the. Seventh. Days. Adventist. Church God. Open..my. eyes to see so many. Things 🎉🎉🎉🎉 in my life Lord go's. You are my. Way. Maker in every thing. I. Do.
AMEN Dr. Ocho, well said at 23.17
While I appreciate all of the panelists for their contributions, I am very sorry and disappointed for none of them gave any biblical quotation.
I quite agree. They have the their bibles but none is using it. You the Bible and say thus say the Lord.
@jrgenstorm6536 Why did you do that?? *I'm Elaine *
I respectfully suggest that both Dr Tobias and Ps. Moses made reference to many texts. Ps. Moses read several texts to support the church's stance on the topic.
You dont who are practising gay life already know all these scriptures.
👏👏👏Praise God I believe that the more we come away Criticizing from the church. I love the way Dr. Ocho how he explains things, very good.
What the leadership need is to allow the Spirit of God to take control of their whole life
Thank God for this interview. I gained a lot of knowledge to help me in parenting my 17 and 9 years old children who continuously asks questions on this difficult topic. God bless you all
I'm a SDA and I don't think the church should chase these people out of the church, but what we should do is not to use them as leaders or to give them any position. We should show them from the word of God how sinful and abominable this life style is.
@@ritadavis4953 and that they need to REPENT and ask the Lord for His FORGIVENESS , and His DELIVERANCE and live for Him in HOLINESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS.
God's merciful wisdom in all humility be our guide.....All for the glory of God.
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@@mariesolan1516Amen
DR. OCHO YOU HAVE GAINED ANOTHER NOTCH OF RESPECT FROM ME. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GREATLY.
ThankGod that you're. . ..
The God Im seeking Made WOMAN AND MAN NO. MISTAKES
Wonderful topic God bless the panel Pastors and Nurse everyone. The Bible is the guide.💔❤❤❤❤
Great panel and discussion, to God be the glory today and 😊allways amen.
We have to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Also we have to know Christ for ourselves.
Appreciate this open intelligent diecussion.... And most affirming is that rhe CHURCH is examiming and offering positive primotion of the biblical mandate to love the person as the Holy Spirit does the internal teansforming work.
Excellent program, very refreshing to see real men addressing real issues according to GODS Holy word.
I thoroughly enjoyed the detail of the answers and the courage was which way they were expressed. I pray that this takes root in all Christian churches so we the global patriot Christians may take back His world.
Thank you a real church and preacher😊
The question is .How is the church dealing with this issue in the Church . Or does the Church even deal with this .
Good question, many push it aside and afraid to discuss about it, I think it is still covering up in the church.
@@noviandy6482Exactly!!!
The church is now in the position where tickling ears is less offensive than the truth. This topic is rarely discussed in the church.
Pr. Moses, the Post Modern thinking of our Millennials need the Help of the Holy Spirit !!. much prayer and patience as well. God bless you all.
Interesting: in the questions and comments section, about the worker who referenced Romans 1? The question was not clear.
I must say i enjoy this confrence i learn alot let us pray for the felloship that yaway our God will be please with our prays and the way we live
I am gay and so was my identical Twin. I say he was because he was Murdered!!! Shortly after his funeral some woman told me his murder was a message from GOD!! She said the message was that my twin is in Hell and I will go there too if I don't change!!!!! The rude, coldness of that woman I will never forget!!! My brother & I were gay sinse we can remember, it is Not a Choice!!!!!! I have a personal relationship with God, I was once suicidal but am not anymore, My God knows who and what I am and only he is the judge. He will also judge those who judge others with their bible quotes!!! My twin was a nurse helping to save people. Violence against gay people sometimes happens because of all the negativity & judgement of gays & transexuals! Let us all live in peace with one another. GOD BLESS!
So u have a personal relationship with god, u must pray about what god condam. Pray for urself God will help you. All sin spell the same
It must be horrible to hear and read all these people essentially lying about how gay people feel and how they are.
The unfortunate thing with all the people who condemn these people, is that 80% of the world population is straight and the rest are a combination of gay, bisexual, lesbian, transexual and transgender. The 20% mix of LGBTQIA people make the 80% so uncomfortable that the straight people are willing to cause harm to the LGBTQIA people.
Most of the people who hate the LGBTQIA people are generally religious, but in particular from the Islamic and Christian religions. A lot of their members, as you can hear from the panel and can read from this posts, are foot soldiers who are ready to commit atrocities that the Bible specifically and their religious leaders in particular tell them to do.
As you must have noted over the years, the believers want so desperately to hurt LGBTQIA people, women, children, and other vulnerable groups. That is why Christians here in the US have the most guns, and do the most harm with gun violence. Christians are the majority mass shooters and they live to shoot down Jews, blacks, gay people, indigenous people, children, etc.
Just some decades ago, white Christians in the US used to go about black homes, burn crosses on their lawn, and hang the black persons on trees with the noose (rope) to show every other black people that they too will be hanged if they don't follow their white rules. These were all Christian folks doing this.
The problem is that once anyone (even if they are black) take on Christianity, they will eventually become hateful and harmful believers, ready to commit atrocities against vulnerable groups of people. You can see that the doctor, moving his wrists like some gay men do, is even more determined to condemn gay people. Possible being gay himself, but unfortunately Christian may make him even more dangerous to other gay people. In the effort to prove that he is not gay, he causes even more harm to his own fellow gay people.
It is a dire situation. You will hear so many Christians justifying the abuses. It is really gross and disgusting how these awful Christians are.
I hope all LGBTQIA people, women and children will continue to be careful around all these dangerous Christians. They mean real harm to vulnerable groups. PLEASE BE REALLY CAREFUL AROUND THEM, AND STAY SAFE!!!!!!!
@donald....I've prayed to God Almighty for your protection and peace of mind. * * When you read the Bible and pray, may Jesus Christ reveal to you what is needed to speak God's peace into your heart. * * Sometimes, people need to change who surrounds them and their environment to gain strength to change from within. Stay strong and Trust God..
@@jackiemarieadams7764 I have Gods peace, never felt better or more loved! Thank you for prayers!
We cannot give in to every whim and fancy of the flesh.
We are strong enough with the God we serve to call sin my it's name God will give us the wisdom to deal with it.
call sin BY its name
Thank you panel, very informative
Dr. Ocho i love your delivery. Wow man of God with a powered brain. God bless you. You all keep living for God.
Very interesting panel...I attended Atlantic Union College., SDA College located in So. Lancaster, MA. We had a student in the dorm ,Atlantic Union College, whom was raised by his Aunt . She taught him how to sew, crochet, and he walked feminine. We don't believe he was gay. He used to type over 90 words per minute. He typed one one of my term papers one year. many students went to him to have term papers typed. I believe the environment we were raised in CT would impact the results.
...PRECISELY! Feminine characteristics of male persons do not predictably equate with homosexuality, nor do masculine overtone/s of a woman necessarily indicate lesbianism. AND...incidentally...i cannot overstand why A God...in ALL IT'S omnipresent wisdom...having alledgedly purposefully created mankind "in IT'S image"... to follow a behavioral pattern of such social hypocrisy. 😝
Help Lord Jesus only you Lord will be able to fix this 🌎 world
Good text Pastor Moses especially in the end.
Very educational i learnt so much from just listening to this program
Keep taking this STAND, pure theology! There is more than enough evidence that PPL will do whatever they really want to do! True, there are PPL who struggle with this challenging issue, BUT I know without Contradiction GOD delivers ANYONE who sincerely desires to live a holy life. The temptation is real for some, BUT In CHRIST JESUS. There are ppl every day who are ex-gay, ex-transgender, ex-transsexual and ex-lesbian etc. God Will deliver if you want- I have seen him do it. Pray for Your little boys and girls! ❤️🩹😇❤️🩹
The guy in the yellow shirt right on point.
What a God led discussion on this very emotive topic. Thank you everyone who sought answers and to those who ably responded with God directed answers. God is always in control.
Amen
We will stand and having done all to stand, and having the breast plate of righteousness and our feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace
Dear psalmist,
Excellent points in your comment.
Amen must be guided by God
Amen thank you.
Very informative. I pray God bless this ministry to keep edifying our nation. Wonderful topic.i have learnt much and will act on it.
Very educational i learnt so much from just listening to this program. Just came across this channel and conference. Very good teaching and discussion..
As the lord says ,put on the full amour of GOD when fighting evil. Such discussion should be opened with prayers and references of the Bible verses should be dominating such major issues.. satan is not easy to fight without GOD presence invited in such.
I assume that much prayer a soul searching would have been done before by the members of the panel.
This is a God sent presentation!
Adam & Adam it’s a bad news .God he’s not crazy .Tell me what’s wrong with Marie? I know she give birth to us 😊Now I think it’s about time for real women to start suing those LGBTQ Groups
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😢😢😢😢😢. I was looking 4 Marie but I still couldn't find her. Oh well, I just found Marie but is not she, is he now with a lot of things change. Wow, she got a beard with heavy voice and a flat chest. 😅😅😅😅😅
It' was a wonderful program but out of the bos I want to ask you all what Matthew CH 15 and verse 11 says and those pirk comes out of your mouth ?
Always good to see pastor Dottin
I love doctor Dottin, he speak the truth
i find this interesting, my only wish was for my husband to be atleast like one of these Godly men, i remember in 2019, i went as much as asking God to give me Men wisdom, LOL i would listen to Christian program of male in court which was broadcasted at a local radio Jesu ke Karabo fm on saturdays evening, i was tired of the dysfunction in our home, headless home, i wanted to see God from the male perspective, and the more i desired that the more i loved that idea, i received God's true peace, i would enjoy the quietness, i even had the desire to attend male conference, the more i received from what is being taught i would pray that my husband receives the same thing, i eventually loved the program for myself at a later stage,
I like that a duty of care!
Yes be careful if whose voice that we are listening to!
Terrific n very informative.
Thank u gentlemen.
I feel this was very liberating and informative as it relates to how we deal with LGBTQ issues in Church Settings
@@veronaebanks4738 Amen to that
I honestly don't believe that Church as a whole regardless of what denomination or if it's called a non denominational Should entertain LGBTQ Communities. At its core they are proud, boasters whose goal is aimed at destroying God's will on earth. They are filled with strong delusions of themselves and they are proud of it. They are Confused. However if anyone is able to deliver help them to deliver them from themselves it God. I believe the sin that Homosexuality is an Abomination as was stated by one of the gentlemen. What do you do with a cult of people whose mindset is so proud of their own sinful nature. What do you do when the government won't stop the insurrection against God's holy word and is promoting it upon the society of our world. Get out and vote for a candidate that is willing to with a stroke of a pin abolish such foolishness against our God and his people. Don't vote for Obama type of people and don't mean color or race but vote for someone with morals and not as Obama who proved he had high tolerance for sin and is the one who let the demons out on us along with neighboring nations who support it. Not as Joe Biden who won't reverse a law because of Votes. Our Children deserve to not be forced to accept ot in our schools. they need to know it is wrong and that is is not normal
this was very enriching. thank you very much
There are people both male and female who are born with both genitals. What about chromosomes. Females are XX males are XY. Some males X chromosome are stronger that the Y chromosome. What do you think about that.
The panel makes it seem like if , for example an alcoholic attends the church that person can cause others to be alcoholics also. They are in effect saying gay members can cause others to be gay also. Jesus said He came not to judge but to save. He said the two greatest Commandments is to love God with all our hearts mind and spirit and to love others. Men stop trying to play god and act like they have all the answers. Please leave judgement to God
For those who like to talk about God made Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve, please explain, is a hermaphrodite Adam or Eve. There are things we do not have an answer for, and should admit we do not know, but one day we will understand.
I can testify about this an adoptive relative was born with both male and female organs and as the young child grew the female gender was more prevalent by age 5. The parents had the male organs removed, she grew into a beautiful young lady, married and had children living a vibrant life.
AMEN to Minister Moses...
With you all the way my brother
The church must preach what God said.
Very good and timely discussion. Jesus saves.
Ofcourse anyone could change.
We ought to hold God accountable for all hispromises and for what he tells us. He tells us with him and in him ALL is possible.
Speak Bro Riley. The truth will sat them free. Word of God is real. People need to abide by it. All people!!
By the snickering on the panel members, it apears that they have studied, or accepted lilttle on what the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy say on the subject of spiritual warfare. Paul was clear, and for ordained ministers (regardless of their position) to snicker on this is beyond rude and ignorant.
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Nobody is born a thief or a liar, therefore no one is born gay, we're all born with sinful tendencies, but we must overcome them by the grace of God in order to enter the kingdom of God.
Amen Amen sister, God bless you for standing up for the right!
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Well done ✅ I watch from start to finish good luck to all in volved
Very true, and most churches do not want to admit this is a demonic manifestation. Many believers are filled with demons, they are real and they cause division and all kinds of filth in the body of Christ. Only the blood of Jesus Christ and a repentant heart can free us from the bondage of sin, and especially sexual sin. Only by the power of the Holy Spirit and the blood ofJesus can we ever hope to be set free. Most churches refuse to speak about the power of the blood and the reality of demons.
Biologically this is true. However for the original people, there's no natural learning towards sin.
Thankyou lord for that topics...God takes control to our BOYS.SOME pe😢ople will say they've born like. I would never accept.i pray everyday about it pls help me in prayer am hurting. Thankyou
What snickering...I didn't see any snickering. The panel was very educated on the subject.
Agree with pastor Dotin
Why aren't we addressing this as a demonic influence over the lives of GOD'S CREATION.....IT IS SPIRITUAL WAR..... DEEP PRAYER N FASTING
Exactly! People always stay "on the surface", as to avoid hurting feelings or getting attacked... That is why I love Voddie Bauchman. He says it like it is. No acceptance.
I had two people in my life that was practicing the guy lifestyle, one is my stepson, how he was interduice, his mom is Pentecostal but his grandma was Baptist, when his mom got married his grandma refused to give him to his mom, his Dad ask for him also but she refused, his cousins they were Baptist and lived in the same Yard, he started to go to church with them he wanted to get at his mom because he felt that he was ignored by his mom, now she had a family,so he when deeper and deeper into the spiritual realm, and when he was on the monin ground he was initiated by the one who was his helper, after that time he spent on the ground, and he come out he was a homosexual, he stayed by me for a while I was very sympathetic to him know that he was craving his father's love I spoke to my husband and he responded, i did birthday party for him I showed him love and get my children involved, i did not let my children know what was going on with him until one day he tried to initiate my first Son I that is when I told his father, and his siblings,I think his father was in denial, wasn't long after he had full blown AIDS, I never show him any indifference, I continue to show him love and support in prayer, he is my husband's first child and all my children relates with him, I must say he confess he has changed, to Jehovah God be the glory.
This was about 2012 The other young man, I met him coming from the Airport, he was from Guyana, he came to Trinidad invited by a guy friend, we took the same car from the Airport, he said he went to Post of Spain and don't see the friend and was going back into Port of Spain it was about 9pm and I can here the voice of the Holy Spirit saying to me if he go in Port of Spain they will kill him take him home, my husband was at home, when we get there he opened the door and this man was with me I don't know him, he was a perfect stranger, but one thing my husband and I observe, and said nothing to him is that he was a homosexual, we made him feel very welcome that night and in the morning my husband took him to the Airport, he eventually called and say thank. To God be the glory, we always have to ask ourselves how will Jesus Christ had delt with this situation, we are his hands, His feet and His mouth piece.
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In my opinion is this why God burn down sadomagorroh
Amen
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*Yes, the Lord burned DOWN*
*SODOM AND GOMORRAH* , *BECAUSE man's hearts were*
*CONTINUALLY wicked, which DID*
*INCLUDE homosexual sin!* 💯
What a great story! What a place to become initiated! In the church! Wow! You are a good woman.May God bless you.
Pastor Dotting a little confession is good for your soul . As you on the panel tell the truth too
That's why I will always love Apostle Gino Jennings. ❤❤❤❤he beat you all with the Bible. He is one Pastor who doesn't sugarcoat the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
AMEN BROTHER IN THE YELLOW SHIRT AND THE ONE AFTER HIM IN THE ORANGE JERSEY! AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE!
If that theory was valid then it should hold true for all boys who grow up in single parent homes.
Exactly he’s basically saying if a boy is raised by both parents he would not be gay
I agree bro President that we cannot be timid to defend what God says
Amen to that Brother.