Robocop Used a Super Illegal Crime-Gun (Why We Lost Our Edge)
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I'm one of those guys who used to needlessly comment about nerdy gun details that really in the grand scheme doesn't matter, so instead of that, I can add a fun piece of trivia/lore/rumour:
Most of the M93R pistols that are machine guns in the US, got into the US because a guy sent letters to the manufacturer asking if he could buy spare parts for his M93R. He didn't have one when he started, but in the end, he managed to get Beretta to send him approximately 30 guns in parts before Beretta realized what he was doing, if I remember correctly.
With how few of those pistols that are in the US, there's a high likelyhood of the Robocop gun being one of those guns built out of spareparts. For anything else you wonder about movie guns, IMFDB (internet movie firearms database, it's imdb, but guns instead of actors) is a great and fun resource. I especially recommend the Far Cry 2 page as the pièce de résistance of that website.
Bro I'm gonna screenshot this comment and send it to my gun loving friend to see if he knows about this. That would be almost like porn for him 🤣 I don't understand the guy but we've been friends for a decade. He likes guns, I like cars. We are always on about some random shit the other doesn't understand. 🤣
Reminds me of older behind the scenes lore about the Robocop TV show. They apparently remade a "lighter" mock up of the Auto-9 when importing one of the M93R based versions into Canada became an issue. (Which is on the page they pulled info from this article/video for, surprised they didn't mention it as it ties directly into the topic)
I apreciate you very much sir and as a massive fan of both guns and this movie and the gun in the movie I love this fact so much, thank you mate you're a legend
Fun fact: the Auto 9 was also the basis for the MagSec 4 pistol in Perfect Dark and Perfect Dark Zero.
I can see how you could get small parts this way, but surely Beretta didn't keep sending him the actual frames? The frame is the serialized part, and would be a machine gun under the NFA.
Dont let robocop distract you from the realization, that the fact fiend devil is karl's fursona.
YES
Skinsona...
would've said his stand, but I can't deny, that is a funny thought.
Well yes but never say that again
@@MarkHarrison-bo3kf there's a big controversy there, like do you just go naked or wear a skin suit over a fur suit lmao
Carl: "There is a weird amount of men who made cars, guns, and WW2 their identity"
Me laughing because he perfectly described two guys I know
Don't forget the guys who glorify the Spartans and Roman Empire.
@@dylaneagen880 or the people who glorify the Crusaders
Its almost like having a baseline knowledge of a historical period isn't a substitute for a personality
@@WykeRowerMedia it's not baseline, it's monumental; "identity" isn't the sort of adjective for History 101 knowledge, more the sort of thing armchair historians might have, even if they're dead wrong; in short, these are ppl who fell down the rabbit hole, not just noticed the White Rabbit
That’s most people I know
4:00
In Robocop 2, you see him once or twice slide a new magazine in his gun.
In the TV series, they explain that the bullets are contained within his forearm and they get loaded automatically into the gun via a rail system in his hand
I thought he fires lasers in the tv show?
@@Tismdylan in the cartoon, he does. But in the live action show, he shoots bullets
Every AA12 ever made, except one in Florida, had to be destroyed because it just came out that they were all made illegally. If you've seen an AA12 shotgun, even as just a prop in a movie, it is now destroyed.
The Beretta 93R was actually made for law enforcement in Italy, so i'd say ut fits Robocop.
Yup, the VP70M, an H&K 9mm handgun, which was also capable of a 3 round burst (only with a special stock attached) was also being used/ trialed for police, and military, use. Though like with the 93r it didn't really catch on. But for an 80s movie it makes a lot of sense for a "super robot cop" to use one.
@@Bulbman123 I don’t feel any need to own the VP70M burst version, but because I’m a huge fan of Resident Evil 2, I would love to own the VP70Z civilian version, but they’re so rare and expensive that you’ll be hard pressed to ever find one, and you most likely wouldn’t have the money needed for it if you ever do find one.
I just want my video game guns in real life. Hell, I plan on eventually making the silver handgun, Ivory, from Dante’s arsenal from the Devil May Cry series, but even just the base gun alone would cost $1,000+ and that’s without the modifications needed to turn it into the Ivory (without the machine gun fire ability of course, but I don’t want to own an illegal gun).
@@UrobourosZero Not necessarily, I've seen many over the years being sold for under $800, though it is true that in the last few years they are getting harder to find for a good price. :(
@@Bulbman123 If I could have found a VP70Z for $800, I’d have absolutely bought it by now, but then I don’t have my ear to the ground on gun sales and stuff. Busy life and all that. I’m sure it’s been on sale somewhere in the past few years and I just missed it.
I did find a Browning Hi-Power clone for about $550 so I could get Claire’s handgun that way, but alas, I’m moving soon and need to save money for it. I’m hoping it’s still in stock when I move out and get settled.
@@UrobourosZero All the good deals I've seen (under $1000) have been online listings. Just keep an eye out, I'm sure you'll get one eventually :)
Felt so good too see Karl standing. Such a random and small thing but makes it feel like old times
Like middle management, I dont feel like im getting my moneys worth unless hes not allowed to sit
Karl needs to start a fund to have himself turned into RoboKarl, so he won't have to use the computer anymore and he could keep his drink in his leg.
If we watch his Twitch streams more, he'll make affiliate and start raking in the big bucks!
@@JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579 That would mean I would have to watch twitch streams though...
I will only pay into the fund if RoboKarl is linked into the Twitch API so people can control him from chat.
Hey Karl! I used to work front desk at hotels up in Alaska. Alaska has a whole industry built up around people visiting for an "alaskan safari." Now while a lot of the game in Alaska is big and scary, most of the locals tended to just use fairly typical deer-rifles. ('cause if you're a decent shot, a deer rifle is enough to stop a bear or moose. And most of the locals practiced to make certain that we were taking game in a single shot, to avoid undue suffering of the critter we're hoping to eat.)
More often than not, if someone was on their first Alaskan Safari, they would have just bought their hunting rifle just before the Safari, and generally wouldn't have taken it out to practice with, or even **** sight in. Buying an overpowered $2k rifle (.338 remington ultramag is a good example. Waaay too much gun for most hunting unless you're hunting at distances greater than a kilometer) and failing to zero the scope before your safari is part of the reason that in over half of all successful hunts, the guide finishes off the animal. I'm pretty down on the whole "tourism hunting" concept, largely due to how feckless the average tourist is.
The 93R has been around since the middle 1970s in the Mack Bolan novels the gun could be fired in a single shot or three rounds per trigger pull the device built into the gun was a three-round burst limiter the Skorpion sub gun had the same built-in safety for better weapons control.
I still have a trunk full of executioner books in storage. He was too cool.
God the Skorpion is such a piece of hot dog shit. Fire it sideways or have fun in a nice hot brass shower.
@@carlosspeicywiener7018 my step-grandpa had the novels. He was basically Frank Castle 2.0
Episode of Courage the Cowardly Dog where Eustace goes out hunting with what amounts to a plasma cannon; the buck deer he tries hunting gets fed up, busts out his own cannon and says "A deer's gotta do what a deer's gotta do."
you could have just stopped at "Episode of Courage the Cowardly Dog"
Yay Karl waxing philosophic about RoboCop is my favorite part of this channel.
For the issue of a 50 roung Magazine with a 3 round burst, you can't forget the one in the chamber. If you carry a firearm with one in the chamber (ready to fire as soon as you draw) then the Magazine effectively becomes a 50+1 round magazine. 51 rounds, with a three round burst, he would have 17 completel bursts without any leftovers.
Not a gun guy, but I think a 50 round clip could work if you also loaded one in the chamber, giving you 51 bullets (3 * 17)
Have fun chambering a round and reloading 1 bullet back into a magazine every time you need a new magazine.
Another thing to note is that it used to be recommended to load your mags 2 rounds less than full capacity to extend the lifespan of the spring thus making 48 work
Why would it need to be divisible by 3? Do people think that a 93r suddenly blows up or crumbles into dust or something if you fire a 3 round burst with only 1 or 2 rounds left? Regardless of whether you had 3, 2 or 1 left, it would obviously just fire what's there and then lock open once empty like any other pistol, this is an imaginary non-problem.
@@johnnyshanksalot8358 It's sci-fi ideal future tech, it can't possibly be imperfect in any way, and especially not a way that drives the ADD nerds insane.
Plus, one could assume that the gun is being reloaded while holstered inside his leg, eliminating the need to manually chamber a round.
One could tell you were not a gun guy by your use of the word "magazine" but could also be confused, what with your "one racked" point- I think it would be very annoying to chamber one round, drop the mag and load one more into it.
Good comment though, I hope you don't read this as me being pedantic- I intend this to be helpful!
That was a huge goof. Mixing up semi-autos with full autos.
At around 3:20 you can see Karl's thought process of how awesome a RoboCop/Transformers crossover would be get overtaken by his insatiable urge to provide the world with his immeasurable knowledge of RoboCop lore.
The fact that nobody but fictional characters got "shot" with that firearm means you don't need to worry about getting shot with it.
Love the video and love learning more about guns in movies. However concerning the legality you are mistaken and there is more there you could do a video on.
The gun was made in 1977-1979. Production easily covered a few years after that. The NFA required a lot of paperwork and a $200 tax stamp to purchase a machine gun. The amendment you mentioned made it illegal to own privately any machine gun made after 1986. This is why there are so many FN FAL auto sears in circulation. They were all made and serialized before the ban date as they knew the things would only get more valuable. This means the gun in question could have been imported, or bought from a domestic manufacturer had one existed, as it was manufactured before 1986.
The more interesting fact from this, however, is that there are, I think, about a half dozen miniguns in existance that are legal to privately own. Making the Terminator's gun in T2 possible to buy yourself.
By the way, law enforcement and the government are exempt from the NFA restrictions on machine guns. This is why SWAT teams can carry MP5s.
To add to this, because of the modification to the NFA in 1986, fully automatic weapons became very expensive to purchase because no new ones were being put on the market. So, currently, a lot of fully automatic guns in private hands in the US are used having been sold previously at least once before.
@@Riceball01 They sell for crazy money a transferable automatic AR-15 will cost about $30,000
Well dang you just explained the NFA stuff in way more detail than I did. Gave you an upvote.
I still can't believe that gun really makes that sound when you fire it. Thought for years it was a manufacturered sound till I heard the real thing fired and blew my mind.
They are actually entirely legal in the US! They are very expensive though, around $20k for a Federally licensed dealer/manufacturer, and around $130k for just a regular dude.
If there is one thing that sums up the theme of Robocop it's talking about what he stores in his other leg... "Mines, or other police equipment". Welcome to the universe where the police need to deploy LAND MINES in order to make the public safer. :'D
Film logic with guns is basically non existent outside of very few examples. Also it's not that the auto 9 was "the equivalent of an assault weapon". It's that it violated the National Firearms Act which attaches a requirement for a tax stamp for any weapon that does more than one bullet for every trigger pull. In 86 the new manufacture for the civilian market was stopped and ever since then all burst fire or fully automatic weapons legally owned are ones manufactured prior to 86. They are incredibly expensive because of the ever dwindling supply.
Funny thing, the base model M93R is actually more illegal than the one used in Robocop. The most common version of the M93R comes with a folding angled front grip attached in front of the trigger guard. Putting a front grip on a pistol places it in the "Any Other Weapon" category. Which means it falls under being a machinegun and "any other weapon". Bonus violation: if you use the optional stock attachment, it then also falls under the "Short Barreled Rifle" description. Which is also an NFA violation. All things considered the one used in the movie only 1/3 as illegal as the original with all it's accoutrement.
10:00 I played a Parody PC game as a kid called "Deer Avenger", where you play as a Deer hunting and mounting the heads of the hunters who killed his lover.
Holy crap, I'd forgotten all about that game!
@@korganrocks3995 I bought that game when I was 11🤣. I just grabbed a random game and asked my parents if I could buy it. It was a fun wake up call.
if you liked that, look up DEEEER Simulator.
@@dontplay6580 My brothers and I bought it when we were around that age, although for the life of me I can't remember the how or why!
I still remember some of the lines
Ohh a brand new truck, with keys still in it
Who wants a pair of xray glasses
Believe it or not, there was a time in America when most guns, including submachine guns and automatic rifles were not only legal, but available at any sporting goods store anywhere. I remember seeing uzis and browning automatic rifles on the shelf at bob ward's when I was younger. I almost bought a submachine pistol in 84, the only thing that stopped me was the low quality of the piece. There was no assault weapon ban, no Brady bill, not even a waiting period. You paid, and you walked out with your new gun.
My point is that beretta was originally designed and built in the 70s, sold throughout the 80s and was not illegal until 1997.
I have an old sears and roebuck catalog that has a brand new Thompson submachine gun for sale at $225.
I want that gun so bad. Not even for shooting but to figure out the space compression tech to fit all the bullets.
There is no way to fit that many bullets in a gun that compact.
It's future. I'd say probably short, caseless rounds. As a matter of fact, I don't *think* we ever see casings coming out of his pistol.
@@spartanmerc1, Sig Sauer and HS Produkt has entered the chat.
Got genuinely nostalgic for the old fact fiend style of standing up
Robocop never gets old (other than his leftover squishy human bits- those probably still age). Also wait did we just get Karl this episode? What happened to Karl Smallwood? Huh, must be some vacation he's on.
In this video Karl says the word "irregardless" twice. That is all
The French did the same thing with the burst first and a weird number of rounds in the magazine. The FAMAS has a 3 round burst, but it's proprietary magazine held 28 rounds. This was fixed in later models that used the same 30 round standard magazines (STANAGs) as everyone else in NATO.
Karl: "Do you have a favorite moment of just someone being hit by a car, in fiction?"
Brad: "Meet Joe Black."
Me: "YES!"
The Auto 9mm pistol has a 50 round magazine, and one in the chamber. That makes 51, which makes 17 x 3round bursts. U.S. cops usually keep a round chambered at all times, unlike the military.
I never even thought of that. Good thinking
I had a plastic bb gun the same as this as a kid, it was a barretta and had OCP on the side. It was only single fire but it was fucking huge
I also had one, not a BB version, mine shot either rubber 9mm projectiles or nerf type darts I can’t recall exactly. But huge yeah I swear it was like 30cm long.
it's technically not illegal for a private citizen to own a fully gun, it's just extremely expensive and have to go through multiple stages of background checks. the few exceptions are those categorized as relics/ antiques
If I'm not mistaken; the Beretta that was used did actually have a 3 shot burst. They didn't modify the gun to do that.
That weapon was never imported to the US. You can legally modify a standard Beretta 93 to 3 shot burst if you have the SOT license to do it. You just can't sell the gun, it has to be destroyed when you're done using it.
@@spartanmerc1
Oh so it falls into a lake everytime you go into your radial inventory?
Automatic firearms are heavily regulated in the US. The only exceptions to the laws are the military, police, and very limited companies that have a good cause (film, security, registered mercenary originations) to own them. Some modern police forces in the US issue automatic rifles to be kept in patrol cars.
Semiautomatic guns are actually entirely legal in the US. You're confusing it with automatic fire which is still legal in some states but has to be manufactured before 1986 (national law) and you need to pay $10K+ tax stamp on top of the cost of the gun. The gun would be illegal in California if it were automatic, which I am guessing you meant.
Also assault weapons aren't actually a class of weapon, but assault rifles are. The modified pistol is technically a machine pistol and a machine gun.
In the US you need the right paperwork for "assault" weapons. But, One would think a military/private contracting weapons developer like OCP from Robocop would have. You CAN buy automatic weapons if you join a organization that has its paperwork. You cant even have an eagle feather without paperwork in the states. This is a big fail on the part of your research.
"His car comes out of his leg. He's like a Transformer."
TRANSFORMERS: ROBOCARS FROM THE THIGH
I'll see myself out.
love seeing the friendship between you bunch shine through on the videos!!
You actually can't shoot normal bullets out of a prop gun meant to fire blanks. The barrel is too small for the bullet to go through and will more than likely explode in your hand. Although you could technically swap out the barrel, since this was a customized weapon, you'd be better off just actually getting an actual version of the original gun it's based on.
Also, for those who might say it, yes, I know that blanks are still deadly and can kill people.
I own a VP70 pistol with the shoulder stock attachment. Where you can fire the gun single shot or a very quick three round burst. I think it is the closest we have got to Robocops Auto 9 concept.
My favourite instance of something in a film being purported as real is "The Hitman's Bodyguard" where during the chase scene, a blooper happened where the Porsche Cayenne clipped a Smart ForTwo and it falls into the river, and the Cayenne just keeps going. That's a clip that's often reported as being from a real police chase.
His other leg has a machine gun / rocket launcher or 50cal anti material rifle / grenade launcher combo. The movie version is based on a 50cal sniper with a grenade launcher attachment (They called it a "cobra assault cannon") The original vision was a machine gun with a rocket launcher attachment.
On the bright side, machine pistols are very hard to use. If those were available to civilians, they'd be useless for nearly everything except having fun at a range. You pull the trigger and the next thing you know you're looking at the ceiling, regardless of training. The Beretta M93R is a three round burst, which is more controllable, but it is also a lot more finicky in terms of reliability and still very hard to use in an effective way. You'd be better off using a regular M9 in most situations.
Except for the small, insignificant fact that police agencies, federal agents and the military are exempted from the NFA...it only applies to the general public which Robocop quite obviously is not.
I loved Robocop growing up then I started playing the rpg game called Shadowrun. Once I saw the Ares Predator I was like that's Murphy's gun. Then I started to see that Robocop and Shadowrun tend to share the same universe.
Certified American here, with regards to the discussion and notes @9:00 in the video, the Hughe's Amendment closed the NFA registry for machineguns. This means that no new "transferable" machineguns could be legally created and added to the NFA registry, but the ones already on the registry are still legal to sell and possess (depending on legislation at the state level.) This means the supply of legal civilian transferable machine guns has been fixed at a maximum and this has resulted in wildly high climbs in prices for them because demand far outstrips the ever decreasing supply. The cost to transfer a legal machine gun is $200 on what is referred to as a Form 4.
I'm happy to answer any questions in greater detail.
Or you could just make a semi-auto non NFA “Auto-9” and it would be classified as a normal handgun.
A 4th thing to add to the "dont talk about it on the internet because someone will correct you" is Rome. NEVER TALK ABOUT ROME.
I now realize im technically correcting Karl, which i find hilarious
Regarding Meet Joe Black, he isn't possessed by the Devil. It's the literal Grim Reaper in human form on earth.
Interesting you mentioned the Beretta M93R, that's the pistol the prop was made from, the auto 9 is basically a dressed up M93R
RoboCop keeps a tiny RoboCop in his left leg.
This would be hilarious till it cuts to a lab scene where they explain in horrible detail how they made a small one lol.
Robocop: The Nesting Doll.
@@ffreed Because the smaller RoboCop has a even smaller RoboCop in his leg.
14:06
karl: “i miss having the little trinkets”
as one of the trinkets slides out of frame
Any Beretta 93 made prier to 1986 was and is still a legally transferable machine-gun. Any civilian with a clean record and enough money can own one.
50 in the magazine 1 in the chamber 51/17=3
I’d guess that it holds around 21 rounds based on the grip length. If it’s a 9mm. The m17 holds 21 rounds but it has a slightly extended magazine. The p320 full size carry’s 17rd flush. This has a longer grip so I could see 21+ rounds. 25 rounds tops
This vid reminded me of another movie "The Demolitionist" where, in the story of the movie, the mayor outlaws all firearms including for the police force. So, to combat the rising increase of the criminal element, they resurrect a dead cop giving her regenerative powers and a pair of high-powered submachine guns.
*Minimized assault rifles
Interesting fact about big game hunting in Africa is that they are required to use licensed guides pay tens of thousands of dollars in permitting fees and donate excess meat from their kill to the equivalent of local food banks in the region to help feed local citizens. The government officials also direct the hunters to areas where they have received reports from villages of nuisance animals such as lions attacking livestock/ people.
The gun only required a $200 tax stamp and as long as long as the 93r was made and imported before 1986 is is still legally transferable as a machine gun to civilians via ATF form 4
Bit of a tangent but kind of relevant. I believe one of the reasons a bunch of movies get filmed in Canada is because despite Canada having generally much more restrictive firearms laws than the USA, the Canadian movie props industry can effectively import whatever they want. Also, the Canada hasn't been nearly as limiting in who it does trade with in comparison to the USA in this regard, so while the don't allow random civilians to buy or own say Kalashnikovs, their movie industry has allowed the import of Kalashnikovs for way longer. The UK films industry on the other hand principally uses "shit left over from WW2" or just shortly after, which is why movies like the original star wars trilogy or Aliens, which are all filmed in the UK use a ton of old WW2 firearms dressed up to look more Sci-Fi.
Actually, a 3-round burst weapon, if built before 1987, is completely legal in the U.S. It would be RIDICULOUSLY expensive, require a stack of paperwork, and take a couple of years, but it would be legal to own.
Not sure if you are aware Karl, but firearms, especially pistols, typicly will count rounds as XX+1 where XX is the magazine size.
So even though 50 round mag. is still absolutely absurd, but 50+1 still allows all shots to be burst without any remainder.
It’s full auto boys. Listen to the first firing range scene is the clearest way to hear this.
The bursts are whatever length Robo wants and he does reload it in the movie.
Definitely feels refreshing to see Karl standing again.
I’m from the American south and the biggest flex from hunters here is swapping to bows…… half the time people talk about what deer ect. They got they say and yeah I bagged it with a bow.
Any time someone tells me it's primitive-weapon season, I dare them to hunt with a spear. Nobody's tried it yet. 😁
(In my state, "primitive" includes single-shot large-bore rifles, like the Sharps from "Quigley Down Under". So that's what everyone uses.)
As an American with access to 🔫 a gon that size could carry 20 or so rounds of 5.7. So if you could get a .22 that had enough velocity & mass to be useful, this could be practical.
"What's in his other leg?" Another, spare Robocop.
It's actually one of my favourite guns in the Far Cry games where it is called the A.J.M 9 obviously named after Alex J. Murphy.
The Mexican holding the Spear of Destiny from Constantine is one of the best car / pedestrian collisions...
Can we have "I'm a brad influence" tshirts?
Common misconception of US law. Machine guns are NOT illegal for citizens to own. Even after the NFA and GCA bullshit, as long as the gun is manufactured pre 86 and is on the register, any non restricted person can buy one after filing for a $200 tax stamp. The same thing the production crew did, making it not illegal
So just to be clear, "semi auto" isn't a problem (yet), it's that it can fire 3 bullets in full auto?
A lot of guns can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, and that's not a bad thing when you have bears and boars
Stereotypical American gun nerd here, but if he has a 50 round magazine, he has 51 shots in the gun. I actually don't remember ever seeing him chamber a round in the first movie.
I don’t think Peter Weller could reload because I don’t think he could even reach across his body in that suit.
But you can’t just put live ammo in a blank firing gun, it’ll just explode. For one blank firing guns don’t have any form of lockup to allow the relatively tiny force of a blank to cycle it and secondly they often have some kind of partial obfuscation of the barrel to stop shit like what your describing from happening
I guess the 50 round mag would be useful because when one burst comes out as two shots you'll know you're out?
The best one out of nowhere was on master horror “fair haired child” the girl in the episode gets NAILED by a van in the first few mins and I completely didn’t see it coming like I did final destination lol
The Beretta 93R was/is _not_ illegal for civilian ownership in the US in real life unless it was manufactured after 1986. The product line was manufactured from 1979-1993, so as long as they had one manufactured before 1986 (very likely seeing as the original movie was made in 1987) then even today it would be possible to buy it so long as you went through all the hoops required and paid for a tax stamp.
Also it's not classified as an "assault weapon". It's classified in legal jargon as a "machine gun", which per the NFA is any gun that can fire more than one bullet per single trigger pull.
So basically Robocop’s gun is the B23R from Black Ops 2
Cool fact for the fact fiend the beretta 93r was first created as a 3 round burst weapon and was almost instantly rulled out as useful because you could not control the recoil of the weapon without shouldering the weapon using a stock. This was made worse because the pistol slide length of travel and return was so short the weapon fire at 1100-1300 rpm meaning that it just felt like one shot that sent your crosshairs 5 feet above your target. This is why you never see police in most countries run around with "auto pistols" because you cant hit shit with them. It did see some testing with militaries but it was mainly exported as its single shot variant made for civilian use.
Another fact is that most militaries, when they are not trying to suppress a target, never use full auto. With a full caliber 762 round fully auto fire is near impossible to hit anything at ranges over 20 meters without a bipod. It is an unfortunate detail left out of reports but people with fully automatic capabilities that comit horrible crimes like mass shootings would have faired better at what they are trying to achieve by using semiauto as awful as that is to say.
10:27 Perhaps you ought to have followed your own advice on this one. So many of the 'facts' in this video are just plain wrong.
I won't bother debunking the whole thing, but the clickbait title itself is a lie. The Auto 9 prop was perfectly legal. As you pointed out in the video, there was some extra paperwork involved, because it was classed as a machine gun under the NFA.
The lawgiver from judge dredd is so confusing regarding how much it can do givin its size let alone how small the magazine is
The 9 in Auto-9 is the 9mm round. To get at least HALF of those 50 rounds into that design of pistol you would need to put them under the muzzle! BUT the Auto-9 doesn't seem to throw brass! 50 9mm bullets WITHOUT cartridges can get to 50 or more!
A robocop video? Karl must be hosting it
"There's a weird amount of men who base their entire identity off of guns, cars and WW2" I know so many people like this. I just happen to know a bunch of trivia in those areas.
As for machine-guns needing a *pile* of extra paperwork. oh YEAH they do. With the sole exception of a prop built *from scratch* to only fire blanks which cannot fit live ammo at all (and even then few places offer those), you need a special manufacturer's license and the BATFE gets all up in that business for good reason. The Berretta M9/92/93 series is fairly easy for a gunsmith to modify in this way, so it's been used in a few films. Equilibrium used a few that where also modified to eject spent shells straight up (which they did for exactly one scene). they hold 9 if memory serves, 12 with an extended mag. 50 is ridiculous (though not unheard of exactly), Murphy's magazines are like DnD Bags of Holding, lol.
Americans don’t keep guns for hunting only. We also keep guns to protect ourselves and our families. It is the same reason everybody should access to a fire extinguisher even though there is a fire department in every town.
The Beretta 93R wasn't illegal because it had 3 round burst, remember the movie was filmed in 1986 it wss still legal to make and convert machine guns for civilians, and those made before 1986 are still legal to buy then in the USA, what made it illegal was that it was a foreign made machine gun which were illegal to import for civilian use after 1968.
In general machine guns are a pain to deal with on film sets because federal law requires the person legally authorized to own them to directly supervise them at all times as the moment there's no supervision the actor using the gun can be subject to federal prosecution
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You see Robocop reload his gun twice! Once in Robocop and again in Robcop 2.
9:06 Most often than not, no that cannot happen. Firearms modified to shoot blank rounds rarely are able to retain the ability to load normal bullets, with the exception of most revolvers. But an automatic firearm that is converted to shoot blanks cannot shoot standard ammunition
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The nfa does not make it illegal, it just makes you have to file paperwork and pay a $200 tax.
No. You want to know what's inside of RoboCop's other leg?????
Chuck Norris!🤪
Given that OCP could build cyborgs and "we practically ARE the military" (according to Dick Jones), I doubt either the technical or legal challenges applied to them.
It is legal to make a fully automatic gun in the USA if you are making it for a government or for Hollywood/movies but as you mentioned paperwork is needed
I mean it's NOT just that it's a automatic pistol, it's an AutoMag. It's spitting the largest handgun caliber bullet rapidly.
It is not illegal to own a burst or fully automatic firearm, you can pay a $200 tax and pass a background check and boom you have a legal automatic firearm.
So that gun wasn't illegal, Robocop came out in 87 and was filmed in 86. In 86 that's when you could no longer file Forum 1 for new machine guns. You can actually still buy pre-1986 fun-bois via tax stamp and transfer paperwork, but the ATF is gonna visit you a few times a year.
The reason for the 2nd amendment isnt hunting. It about defending yourself and if need be to water the tree of liberty. We don't have a constitutional right to hunt.