The WEATHER GIRLS: Too FAT for Fame? + Izora's Sad Ending | Ti Said What Ti Said Old School Scandal

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
  • Do you know the singing duo called The Weather Girls? Did you know that they performed under two different names before they became The Weather Girls? They were called Two Tons o' Fun and Two Tons. Disco singer Sylvester gave them their first break. Though they were as talented as could be, they didn't get many more breaks that did them justice. There seemed to be more focus on their weight than their amazing vocals in the 1980's, but the ladies still managed to be successful...but not as successful as they deserved to be. Do you think that they were shut out of some spaces because of their weight and size?
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  • @TisHotMessHistory
    @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +35

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    • @theogberkeleygirl
      @theogberkeleygirl 3 года назад +4

      Did you know Izora has a son in Oakland that sounds just like k-ci Hailey and a granddaughter that sounds like Gladys

    • @jackierobinson-hicks3879
      @jackierobinson-hicks3879 3 года назад +1

      Love this group

    • @marvinwhittaker1320
      @marvinwhittaker1320 3 года назад +2

      Take for instance the song "And I'm telling you" you can't find a skinny woman who can sing that song better than Jennifer Holliday and she was a BBW

    • @theresawebb1806
      @theresawebb1806 3 года назад +1

      @@theogberkeleygirl I didnt know that thandi for putting me know about that.

    • @tinafiumara1952
      @tinafiumara1952 2 года назад

      Hi Ti I talk to my card carrier they said there's nothing wrong with my car there's something wrong with you guys that I have to fix it with you guys please Ti can you find out what's going on I was on my phone for 2 hours today they said trying a half an hour I tried and a half an hour to get a badge then I called him back they said try an hour if it don't go through that you guys have something to do with it please Ti help me

  • @rotricesummerville7910
    @rotricesummerville7910 3 года назад +309

    Martha Wash was and still is everything ⭐💜 Whew her voice..Black box was sued by Martha for 1.7mil. For using her voice on their album without her permission! & Had The Audacity to have the skinnygirl lypsynch...she won her settlement 💜💜

  • @MrBg76
    @MrBg76 3 года назад +303

    Whitney Houston said Martha Wash is a beautiful woman with a beautiful big voice. I agree you can't deny her voice and face....

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +41

      Martha is beautiful and her voice is phenomenal. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, B Gill!

    • @atomas59
      @atomas59 3 года назад +11

      @@TisHotMessHistory Yeah Martha is beautiful, but to much beauty on the face and all over.

    • @Monieloved1
      @Monieloved1 3 года назад +25

      I didn't know two white men wrote it's raining men😳❤️

    • @cressapellom4205
      @cressapellom4205 3 года назад +16

      We don't need Whitney to tell us that,we can see iT ourselves.

    • @SmartRobot-wc2fb
      @SmartRobot-wc2fb 2 года назад +6

      @@cressapellom4205 Martha's history is what it is...fortunately she found Sylvester in her way that already knew rejection and gave her the chance of her life...but the bottom line here is she would've gotten much further in her career had she controlled her weight better. Singing voice has nothing to do with weight. Living proof of that is Whitney Houston herself. You can be skinny and have a big voice. Martha was born to sing and lead not being just another background singer. Proof of that are the amount of hits her vocals helped to secure over the years and that are nowadays absolute classics.

  • @Bro33Hamza
    @Bro33Hamza 3 года назад +127

    Martha Wash Duo With Luther Vandross On His Song " I Who Have Nothing " Is A Classic Song .

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +7

      It is a BEAUTIFUL song! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Eric Younger!

    • @pennylover1527
      @pennylover1527 3 года назад +3

      I never heard that I'll google that and listen

    • @lmills6097
      @lmills6097 3 года назад +4

      Love that song!

  • @isiahsteele7418
    @isiahsteele7418 Год назад +25

    Had Martha and Izora lost that weight, they would not have been the same. I love both girls voices!! Spectacular!!! R.I.P. Izora.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Год назад +6

      They definitely both had (and Martha still does) amazing voices!

  • @Kyohan137
    @Kyohan137 2 года назад +19

    When Izora does her solo on “You are my friend” I still get emotional when I hear it

  • @shaundagilbert52
    @shaundagilbert52 3 года назад +78

    Martha Wash sang lead vocals for C&C Music Factory's (Everybody Dance Now), and never got credit on the album, or got paid for using her voice, if u watch the video, you'll see this thin attractive model, singing over Martha's voice, Martha was never in the video, I believe she got her lawyers after them.

    • @jasminehill6312
      @jasminehill6312 3 года назад +13

      Exactly! And I think she won her lawsuit

    • @Elena-er7zp
      @Elena-er7zp 3 года назад +13

      I remember this! They got busted not long after Milli Vanilli but it wasn’t as nearly as big a scandal. And it soured me on mainstream music - it’s all fake and manipulative😤

    • @cynthiashesobless7155
      @cynthiashesobless7155 2 года назад +1

      I’m a new subscriber 🥰🥰👋🏽

    • @richardbaham2044
      @richardbaham2044 Месяц назад

      Martha won a million dollar settlement for them using her voice

  • @stephtoneyArmyVet
    @stephtoneyArmyVet 3 года назад +81

    Martha Wash sang the hell out of the bridge on Rebbie Jackson's 'Centipede'.

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 11 месяцев назад +4

      yes yes she did all the high notes MJ wanted the best for his sister and he got it .

  • @ladybug9274
    @ladybug9274 3 года назад +133

    I always loved Martha's vocals. It was frustrating that she was never fully acknowledged for her work with other groups in the 90's, like Black Box.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +15

      Martha's voice is just amazing. The amount of work that she did that went uncredited is ridiculous, Ladybug.

    • @davincibarnette
      @davincibarnette 3 года назад +17

      But she was. She sued & won lawsuits which changed credits given in/on videos for all forever
      All credits were changed after she won on all the videos and albums after she won.
      The more you know.

    • @gin40
      @gin40 3 года назад +13

      Martha Wash was also the voice of C&C Music Factory Everybody Dance Now. She settled with them. David Cole the producer of C&C Music Factory was suppose to produce an album for her but me died. Martha just couldn't get a break.

    • @d3dd440
      @d3dd440 2 года назад +1

      😭🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @king-galaxiusstravinsky5766
    @king-galaxiusstravinsky5766 3 года назад +82

    Michael Jackson was a genius in many ways. "Centipede" will always have a special place in my heart. The song always brings chills up my spine. And the Weather Girls added that special sauce to it. R.I.P. to both Michael and Izora.

    • @gwendolynmurray8201
      @gwendolynmurray8201 2 года назад +11

      Centipede was sung by Michael's sister Rebbie. Michael sang background .

    • @kensuazo1957
      @kensuazo1957 2 года назад

      Debbie Jackson centipede

    • @kensuazo1957
      @kensuazo1957 2 года назад +3

      Rebbie

    • @AccessoriesAddict5528
      @AccessoriesAddict5528 Год назад +4

      @@gwendolynmurray8201 Michael Jackson WROTE 'Centipede'.

    • @lillaura622
      @lillaura622 Год назад +2

      ​@@gwendolynmurray8201yes, but it came out later that Martha Wash was featured on the song, esp when Rebbie couldn't produce the same vocal prowess

  • @lisaaffect5872
    @lisaaffect5872 3 года назад +92

    I learned so much! Unfortunately black women can't be mediocre like other races. Black women have to work harder.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +12

      I'm so glad that I could share something new with you. I generally agree with your statement, but there are exceptions to black women being able to be mediocre. Sometimes they can be if they are deemed to be extraordinarily beautiful. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Lisa Affect!

    • @iceprincess825
      @iceprincess825 3 года назад +1

      @@TisHotMessHistory the ratchet stereotype is less than mediocre.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +12

      @@iceprincess825 I'm not referring to rachet stereotypes. For instance, the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air replacement for Aunt Viv. Mediocre. And perceived to be pretty.

    • @iceprincess825
      @iceprincess825 3 года назад +1

      @@TisHotMessHistory so she was allowed to be mediocre because of her looks?

    • @AndreaTAndreaT
      @AndreaTAndreaT 3 года назад +3

      Used To. Now, Practically Everybody Really Known Is Mediocre. Lol.

  • @AnonymousLioness_97
    @AnonymousLioness_97 3 года назад +94

    I almost became singer... Until I learned the harsh truth about the industry! Mad love and props to them for representing us big women with talent!! Also Lizzo

    • @1dbhsa
      @1dbhsa 2 года назад +2

      I agree with all that you said but I don’t think Lizzy can sing at all.

    • @CleoPhoenixRT
      @CleoPhoenixRT Год назад +3

      @@1dbhsa Have you heard "Cause I Love You"? The girl got pipes.

    • @macywood4619
      @macywood4619 Год назад +5

      Lizzo is no where near as talented as these ladies.

  • @blankspace8758
    @blankspace8758 3 года назад +44

    Izora voice is in my top 10 of all time. Not to mention shes amazing vocalist So much range for a deep heavy voice. Amazing breath control , a beautiful tone and always on key. Now that I know she played piano it makes so much sense.

    • @isiahsteele7418
      @isiahsteele7418 Год назад +8

      She blows the hell out of her piece in I got the feeling and Just Us and You are My Friend. I miss all three; Sylvester, Martha and Izora! Thank you guys for the Wonderful years of entertainment.

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 11 месяцев назад

      Both martha and izora are amazing singers and when both sang together it was out of this world martha has one of the best voices i have ever heard

  • @eshim3961
    @eshim3961 2 года назад +23

    I think Martha Wash has one of the greatest female voices of all time. It's kind of sad to think that nearly everybody on the planet has, at minimum heard her sing "everybody dance now", most people don't know who she is. It's a shame, because I think that she was, and still is a very beautiful woman. Today, we have Lizzo and Adele (before she lost all that weight), to look at as heavier women that have found success, but Martha outclassed them both.

  • @staceydupree8488
    @staceydupree8488 3 года назад +24

    Two beautiful women with amazing voices ❤️

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers1117 3 года назад +45

    I NEVER THOUGHT THESE QUEENS OR GODMOTHERS OF DANCE MUSIC WERE EVER "ONE HIT WONDERS"!!!!

  • @TruSpirit555
    @TruSpirit555 3 года назад +39

    Yesssss the Weather Girls.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 it’s sad the the music industry ostracize big body rather than celebrate the talent. Them women can blow ballparks out. Another one in your video capsule 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 thank you

    • @Moonewitch
      @Moonewitch 3 года назад +1

      💯💯💯💯

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +2

      Yes. The music industry is horrible to overweight women. It's shameful. Thank YOU for watching, Tru Spirit!

  • @zheahra
    @zheahra 3 года назад +32

    You're doing a wonderful job at your commentary on our great entertainers. I appreciate you for humanizing The Weather Girls and helping us to appreciate them and their talent. It's a shame. Ppl tend to see "fat" as not a person. Do you know about a singer from the '60s who walked on crutches? He made a few albums. My mother saw him perform. She said the crowd was so mean because he came on the stage with crutches. They booed at him. He could really sing, too. We can be so cruel and very shallow.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for the beautiful compliments. I truly believe that talented people need to be recognized for their talent. I'm not familiar with the singer you referenced. Do you know his name? Thank you so much for watching and commenting, zheahra!

  • @AndreaTAndreaT
    @AndreaTAndreaT 3 года назад +38

    We Needed That, "It's Raining Men! Hallelujah!!"

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames 3 года назад +30

    In a way you can blame it on the music industry and the optics they started pushing on the music industry, but you can also place a lot of that on the public as well, who started to shift away from talent, and began to focus more on the spectacle and theatrics of performers, above talent, until if you didn't "look" like an entertainer, nobody cared what you sounded like.
    Success today is based more on marketing that talent, and that's pretty much across all the arts in the age of the internet.

    • @Lightningslick
      @Lightningslick 2 года назад

      Do you think the use, popularity, and marketability of music videos, which focused on style, dance, and image, had anything to do with it ?

  • @sandrabrown4283
    @sandrabrown4283 3 года назад +30

    When I was a kid, I remember hearing and reading that not being able to lose weight, caused Chery Lynn her career. She had a huge hit with a song called "To be Real" so sad.

  • @true1evanique
    @true1evanique 3 года назад +54

    "Dance To The Disco Heat" completely won me over to Sylvester and Two Tons of Fun. I had to be on the dance floor when that song played.
    I think it was 1980, Martha Wash got a lot of airplay with, "Taking Away Your Space" on the R&B stations in Chicago.
    As far as their appearance, I never thought anything about it because people are biologically different having their own natural look at that time, unlike today.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +9

      I bet that Disco Heat was a great song for the disco club. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Evanique!

  • @titochulo5974
    @titochulo5974 2 года назад +8

    I grew up listening to them and even as a child I didnt noticed their size because I was not taught to be disrespectful. I was taught to have an ear for all genres of music and to appreciate their vocal talents. I really miss these 2 ladies as well as Sylvester the King of Dance & House

  • @loirinlancaster3
    @loirinlancaster3 3 года назад +12

    They were indeed Sylvester’s legacy. What’s amazing is they were respected for their voices and that was what their fans payed attention to.

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers1117 3 года назад +29

    IN 2004 I DID A TRIBUTE TO IZORA IN MY HIPHOP DANCE SHOW IN JANESVILLE, WI BY SINGING "IT'S RAINING MEN" BUT COULDN'T GET PAST THE CHORUS "IT'S RAINING MEN" SO THE SONG WAS PULLED OFF THE PROGRAM BECAUSE I KEPT LAUGHING DURING REHEARSAL BECAUSE I KEPT CONNECTING THE SONG TO THE "IN LIVING COLOR" SKIT WITH DAMON WAYANS AND DAVID ALLEN GRIER!

  • @williamrichardson24
    @williamrichardson24 3 года назад +20

    They were beautiful and talented! I really love me some Martha Wash!! Her duet with Luther Vandross, “I Who Have Nothing “ was 🔥🔥🔥. Thank you for the video Ti!! Exceptional work as usual!!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +2

      They really were beautiful and talented, William. I love Martha Wash too and I LOVE that duet with Luther. They sound AMAZING. Thank YOU for watching the video and for the compliment. Thank you for coming to the live stream too!

    • @williamrichardson24
      @williamrichardson24 3 года назад

      @@TisHotMessHistory you’re welcome 😊

  • @prettybrowngirl71
    @prettybrowngirl71 3 года назад +15

    Thank you for this story. It’s so disheartening that the article totally dismissed how talented these women are. This was extremely condescending. It’s sad but this attitude still exists . If women are considered attractive to society standards. We are often overlooked professionals. I will admit it’s not as blunt it’s still there. Sad. Again thank for showcasing two extremely talented and beautiful women.

  • @ottabee
    @ottabee 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank-you for this video, Ti. These two women will always be sacred hystery!

  • @chuckcalkins5546
    @chuckcalkins5546 3 года назад +15

    Martha and Izora are great singers

  • @goldbrooks
    @goldbrooks 3 года назад +43

    Martha's face was REALLY PRETTY

    • @aweofme
      @aweofme 3 года назад +9

      Still is

    • @antoinettecannon8749
      @antoinettecannon8749 3 года назад +12

      Izora was pretty too; they both were

    • @kokainejane773
      @kokainejane773 3 года назад +4

      Why not just say Martha was REALLY PRETTY "🙄🤔js

  • @natashabrown6147
    @natashabrown6147 3 года назад +14

    People back in the day stayed worrying bout somebody weight im not over weight but talent is talent!! Great video❤

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      I'm with you. Talent is talent and I don't think that it should be overlooked or passed on because of someone's weight. I have never been overweight either. I just don't like seeing people lose out on something they deserve just because of their weight. Thank you for the compliment, Natasha Brown!

    • @AndreaTAndreaT
      @AndreaTAndreaT 3 года назад +1

      @@TisHotMessHistory Well, I Am And It Is Hard As Heck To Lose Weight.

  • @gunterkeegan670
    @gunterkeegan670 3 года назад +33

    Very informative and unfortunate. All I knew is they had fantastic voices. The fact that Jet made fun of them is indeed, "cringe worthy."

    • @junglekutz5625
      @junglekutz5625 Год назад

      Although I never heard of them, I can believe that folk did make fun of them. Nothing has changed, as certain folk subscribe to making fun of people that they can find or believe they can find short comings and vulnerable traits in. You would think that established individuals that are financially secure and experienced would *find folly in things that are humorous vs this kinda *stuff. As this is the kind of things that wayward and ignorant children goof off on.

  • @rodneyplayer5785
    @rodneyplayer5785 3 года назад +18

    I really hate that these girls were not marketed right because they had beautiful voices. I'm glad I got the chance to see them perform live in the early 80's.

  • @bryanwiley5511
    @bryanwiley5511 2 года назад +6

    Media! When we learn to stop the media from telling us we have to look a certain way, Entertainment will be much better. Way to many Black Female Artist have been dogged about their weight, I can name a lot, but one in particular is "Sybil" she remade "Don't Make Me Over" which she took from a ballad to a dance song, and it was done with perfection.

  • @annadimples7599
    @annadimples7599 3 года назад +16

    Gm . To Everyone have a safe wknd .

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +4

      Good morning, Anna Dimples! You have a safe weekend too!

  • @darrengreen9273
    @darrengreen9273 2 года назад +6

    This is why the late great Vesta Williams had such a problem with the industry. Large dynamic voice just like Cheryl Lynn. Heavy set woman bursting with talent

  • @ingridarthur821
    @ingridarthur821 2 года назад +3

    Oh wooow....THANK YOU for this AMAZING DOCUMENTARY of the Weather Girls! I am the young lady who stepped in those shoes of Izora Armstead. Worked with her before she passed!
    Blessings to you!!

  • @Moonewitch
    @Moonewitch 3 года назад +75

    That's why Jennifer Hudson's relationship with her son's father disintegrated. He wanted more children and she didn't want to risk gaining weight.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +12

      Interesting. I don't keep up with her enough to have known that. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, moonewitch!

    • @Introvertsan
      @Introvertsan 3 года назад +18

      Didnt know that however it makes sense especially if you are from a family who are naturally much bigger, store fat easily and are typically bigger when they are older more children makes that harder to maintain

    • @lisaellis2593
      @lisaellis2593 3 года назад +8

      @@Introvertsan Yep, its hereditary

    • @jenniferchery2727
      @jenniferchery2727 3 года назад +2

      @@Introvertsan wwww×ww

    • @Moonewitch
      @Moonewitch 3 года назад +1

      @@TisHotMessHistory You're most welcome darlin! Thank you for the awesome videos!

  • @lyndapyleskelly
    @lyndapyleskelly 3 года назад +29

    As all ways, we'll done TI, I would love for you to speak on Jennifer Holiday. You have a great speaking voice, much gratitude.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +3

      Thank you for the compliment, Lynda! If I can think of an angle (or if you can give me one) for a Jennifer Holiday video, I'd be open to doing one.

    • @lyndapyleskelly
      @lyndapyleskelly 3 года назад +2

      @@TisHotMessHistory perhaps speak to her weight loss and how it impacted her, her fans and the industry. Just a thought.

  • @curtistisdale8150
    @curtistisdale8150 3 года назад +37

    This is going to be Legendary because these "Goddess of Song" were behind-the-scenes "Taking No Shorts" ( allegedly). Martha Wash was alleged to have "That Mouth-piece" and would cut someone down in a heartbeat. It's alleged she liked her smoke ( Not Mad at that) but no one could sing like that at that time. RIP Ms. Izora A., who literally was this Force of Nature.... I'm so glad these women are getting their shine because "Just Us" is literally One of My Favorite Songs Ever!!!! 2 Women created lead, background, harmonies, melodies, runs, and bridges that no one came close to how Amazing this song sounded.

    • @ChefCarter
      @ChefCarter 3 года назад +4

      Someone's excited about this topic!

    • @curtistisdale8150
      @curtistisdale8150 3 года назад +4

      @@ChefCarter Sho' is!!!! Thanks for noticing.. Come On 11:00😎😁😎😁

    • @ChefCarter
      @ChefCarter 3 года назад +5

      @@curtistisdale8150 I've always liked the song, "It's Raining Men." In college my chorale group sang it for a performance. We were an all girl group with women of all shapes and sizes from international backgrounds. We brought the house down with that song!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +5

      I really appreciate your enthusiasm for this topic. Thank you so much for attending the premiere. I'm thankful for people like you who appreciate my work, Curtis Tisdale.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +5

      @@ChefCarter I'm glad that someone is excited about it! LOL! I need EVERYBODY to be excited!

  • @KreKre99
    @KreKre99 3 года назад +11

    Why do I always laugh at that Umar clip at the end 😂

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      Because you have a GREAT sense of humor. LOL! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, KreKre99!

    • @KreKre99
      @KreKre99 3 года назад

      @@TisHotMessHistory you're most welcome. I truly enjoy your content ☺️

  • @CynthiaJacobbrown
    @CynthiaJacobbrown 2 года назад +4

    These women were the best powerhouse singers and should have been shown the respect the deserve.

  • @v.a.993
    @v.a.993 3 года назад +5

    It is funny that you include a picture of Pebbles. Just the other I was in a place where her 80s hit Girlfriend was playing, and all I could think was that she could not sing. I had not heard that song in a long time and had not missed it. It had that cheesy 80s bubble gum pop sound.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +3

      That's funny. I actually just realized this year that Pebbles couldn't sing. I won't lie - I like a lot of her songs. But I watch a lot of old performance footage, and I watched her on Showtime At The Apollo. A performance from 1980-something. And she sounded HORRIBLE and she couldn't dance. It was all around terrible. She was singing Mercedes Boy. It's here on RUclips. You should check it out for a good laugh, Vanessa.

    • @omoowobhd
      @omoowobhd 2 года назад +2

      @@TisHotMessHistory Something similar happened with Cassie on 106 and Park with her song Me & You

  • @jeanettejames5528
    @jeanettejames5528 3 года назад +8

    Keke Wyatt is absolutely the beat vocalist in the game. Her career didn’t take off because of her weight.

  • @QueenMotherIvory
    @QueenMotherIvory 3 года назад +8

    Thank you so much for posting this. I adore Sylvester and the girls. Always wanted to get more info on Izora, particularly.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      Thank YOU for watching this. I adore them all too. Thank you so much for commenting, Ivory The QueenMother.

  • @queenladybug1702
    @queenladybug1702 3 года назад +13

    "Beauty Politics" what a way to put it but unfortunately 😕 it's the truth. Another awesome video, keep up the good work 👍.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +2

      It really IS unfortunate. A horrible sad truth that I think will never go away. Thank you so much for the compliment, and I am going to keep getting these videos out every week, Diane Ladybug Hudson!

  • @MakupNluvMusic
    @MakupNluvMusic 3 года назад +3

    Love these beauties.. Dance disco heat,you are my friend and just us are my jams!!! You can't have a family get together without that being played. Oh an you are my friend well,that speaks for itself the 3 of them played no games hunny.. Have you calling your bestie cryin and ish🤭
    Thank you for this 💎

  • @martinj3672
    @martinj3672 3 года назад +11

    Lovely video as always Ti. Looking forward to many more.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for the compliment, Martin J! I get these out every week. You'll have a new by Saturday.

  • @djoldsoulkid3407
    @djoldsoulkid3407 3 года назад +20

    THAT'S sad those women COULD SANG and they're beautiful the industry is evil smh

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +2

      It really is sad. They were SUCH good singers. You are right about the industry. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, DJ Oldsoulkid!

    • @djoldsoulkid3407
      @djoldsoulkid3407 3 года назад

      @@TisHotMessHistory anytime!

  • @saundrabrown1873
    @saundrabrown1873 3 года назад +6

    Back in the 1990's those new jack groups would use Martha Walsh voice for artists that couldn't even sing or speak English! I remember a singer was on soul train lip singing using Martha's voice but couldn't speak during Don Cornelius interview after the song 🤔

  • @goldieluxx9356
    @goldieluxx9356 3 года назад +8

    It's sad that the music industry is like this first off music is for your ears not your eyes

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      It really is sad. People with talent should be able to make it in the music industry. Thank you for commenting, Goldie Luxx!

  • @braidedgirl757
    @braidedgirl757 3 года назад +9

    Just Us....Is still one of my favorite songs to this day ...they are so underrated

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +2

      It really is a great song, and you are so right, can i kickit. They are flat out underrated. So sad.

  • @sabretooth717
    @sabretooth717 3 года назад +12

    U forgot that Martha Walsh sang for c and c music factory...sweat.!...they used her voice and tried not to pay her.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      I didn't forget it. I mentioned in this video that I will be doing a follow up video on Martha Wash.

  • @collettedaniels3884
    @collettedaniels3884 3 года назад +12

    Madonna, JLo, Brittney Spears, Camila Cabello, and Taylor Swift.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +2

      Ooh-wee! These lists are going to cause some controversy and I love it! I agree with your 5 except for Madonna. But I'm just asking for everyone's OPINIONS, so clearly there is no right or wrong. Thank you so much for coming to the premiere, Collette Daniels!

    • @collettedaniels3884
      @collettedaniels3884 3 года назад +8

      I’m not a Madonna hater. I just don’t feel like she is strong vocally. Take a bow is still my jam. I feel like the machine behind Madonna contributed to her success more than raw talent.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +7

      @@collettedaniels3884 I get what you're saying. Music tastes are going to be all over the place. I love Madonna but I hate Take A Bow. I think that the 80's kid in me likes her because of her fast dance songs in the 80s.

  • @QueenBthatsMe777
    @QueenBthatsMe777 3 года назад +8

    😭😭😭😭 I miss you guys... I love you all and I love the heck outta this video! Im disappointed in JET but not a bit surprised by their article. It be our own ppl. Smh I came on to find the Bernadette video that I missed. They should have been collecting royalties from that one shampoo commercial that boasts, "gonna wash that grey right outta my hair"

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      We miss you too! How are you doing?
      Jet & Ebony have a history of being problematic. Not enough people seemed to catch on decades ago. The Weather Gils couldn't collect royalties on I'm GonnaWash That Man Right Outta My Hair because it's not their original song. The song is from the South Pacific musical from the 1950s.
      I hope that we get to see you in a live stream soon, QueenB!

    • @QueenBthatsMe777
      @QueenBthatsMe777 3 года назад

      @@TisHotMessHistory oohhhh... ok. I see. Theirs is a sad story, but I love how they loved themselves, in spite of. So much talent overshadowed by stupidity of body shaming. It saddens me. I lost a loved one and on Wednesday a sister friend of mine lost her sister, but God is!!! I hope to see y'all tonight... I hope! Meanwhile, I gotta catch the THE MISS BERNADETTE STANIS broadcast, honey child!!! Lol love y'all and Ti.... you are doing an AWESOME job! Please keep doing what u are doing!

  • @LOAblue
    @LOAblue 2 года назад +3

    It's raining men is my favorite guilty pleasure song.

  • @v.a.993
    @v.a.993 3 года назад +4

    I do a mean impression of Miss Izora whenever I sing Make Someone Happy, one of Two Tons biggest hits.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      Very cool! You must be a really good singer, Vanessa.

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers1117 3 года назад +11

    SO THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE TRUTH ABOUT THE MUSIC BUSINESS!!!!

  • @djronniebruno
    @djronniebruno Год назад +1

    Love your channel. The best info on Sylvester and The Weather Girls. ❤️

  • @tvlenox8493
    @tvlenox8493 3 года назад +2

    Love that song...it's raining....wild and fabulous!

  • @TheTanay231
    @TheTanay231 3 года назад +6

    I used to see Martha wash on drag race as a judge , when I seen her on Sylvester unsung episode I looked her up. Take away your space is where her vocals shine

  • @Blessedbythalord
    @Blessedbythalord 3 года назад +10

    That beat tho!!! 🔥

  • @Inksplash52
    @Inksplash52 3 года назад +4

    Wooow didn't know they sung on Rebi centipede. That was one of my favorite songs back in the day

  • @frontrowwithseand.9056
    @frontrowwithseand.9056 3 года назад +5

    Nnnnnnnoooowwwww you know that challenge you gave me about the 5 singers i could not do!!! Dammit 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You humored me that i couldn't do it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Awesome video!! Beautifully done and i hope Martha Wash sees this and give you some love

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      I'm glad that you liked the video! I'd love for Martha Wash to see this and give me her opinion. She is so amazing. You can still name your 5 women, Sean. LOL!

  • @andretyroneii941
    @andretyroneii941 3 года назад +15

    For me, main problem was image and titles. Like two tons of fun, think big, etc. Its made them attached to their weight too much. Even though it's made them more famous (kinda) its ruined their serious image. Only people who actually listened to their whole albums know how talented they were. Most average but pretty singer I know is probably Taylor swift.
    Thanks u for making this video. There ain't no much vids about them and it's pretty sad.
    Love ur channel Ti

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      The problem that you have with them is exactly what I'm pointing out in this video. The industry didn't take them seriously and their size was played up in almost everything they did. It hurt them in the end.
      I agree with Taylor Swift.
      Thank YOU for watching my video! I'm thankful to know that you love my channel, Shumba Chidawo.

  • @marcellusbrown57
    @marcellusbrown57 8 месяцев назад

    You hit the Arrow on the Bulls eye! They were over qualified singers but their weight, eas discriminated against! Nonetheless they were amazing and i love them still! RIP Izora Armstead im so grateful Martha Wash is still standing strong! I love them! 🙏🌹❤️🙏

  • @mindyourmess4386
    @mindyourmess4386 3 года назад +2

    GREAT video!! Thank for highlighting these 2 women's talent. Can't wait the Marsha Walsh vid

  • @adelina7
    @adelina7 3 года назад +5

    ❤❤❤great video Ti!

  • @Bryantthewizz
    @Bryantthewizz 3 года назад +1

    I love your background music on these videos!

  • @trademarcfortune2718
    @trademarcfortune2718 3 года назад +8

    This was really good..

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      I'm so glad that you liked it. Thank you for the compliment and for watching and commenting, tradeMarc Fortune!

  • @TinaBriLex
    @TinaBriLex 9 месяцев назад

    Just found your channel and is loving it!!! I remember these talented women and the song "Its Raining Men" when i was 5 or 6 yrs old. I loved their powerful voices and danced to the song. Thanks for reminding me of these remarkable ladies and providing insight on their lives and career

  • @n.j.rihari813
    @n.j.rihari813 2 года назад +2

    Luv the Weather Girls they were a Powerhouse of incomparable Talent and what they did on Centipede was outstanding! ❤️❤️

  • @hiphophistory2218
    @hiphophistory2218 2 года назад +4

    I was in love with Jennifer Hudson when she was bigger. She's still beautiful, but I started paying attention when she was on American Idol.

  • @allancesterjr4494
    @allancesterjr4494 3 года назад +4

    Your videos are SO WELL PUT TOGETHER ! I SUBSCRIBED ! Thanks and keep up the great work 👌

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      Thank you for the beautiful compliment. I will definitely keep up the great work as long as people want to see it. Thank you so much for watching and subscribing, Allan C Ester Jr! I get these old school scandal videos out every week. I live stream a little too. In case you are interested, Oran Juice Jones live streams with us every other Thursday. I hope that you enjoy it here!

  • @territimmerman140
    @territimmerman140 2 года назад +4

    These ladies had amazing talent. It's such a shame that the music industry was willing to overlook that talent based on nothing more than their weight. It's just another form of bigotry. The industry and public missed out on their talent being able to grow and mature because it was stunted unfairly before the growth could really begin.

  • @kathysanders6183
    @kathysanders6183 3 года назад +1

    I love your celebrity gossip.. Who would have known all of this inside information. Thank you so much for sharing. Arsenio Hall would be another good one. 😊

  • @brownbagz
    @brownbagz 3 года назад +15

    Martha looks like my deceased mother! I miss that woman!!!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      My condolences to you, Brown Bagz.

    • @brownbagz
      @brownbagz 3 года назад

      @@TisHotMessHistory thank you so much sweetheart!

    • @brownbagz
      @brownbagz 3 года назад

      Everyone in my life that I loved or big women and I miss them so much

  • @henrysmifth536
    @henrysmifth536 3 года назад +6

    Martha wash made some of the biggest hits in music history

  • @quintonfauntleroy
    @quintonfauntleroy 7 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t care what they look like, they sound absolutely AMAZING!!!!! Unfortunately talent is isn’t needed when money comes into play….yet another sad truth

  • @dalehoward3704
    @dalehoward3704 2 года назад +5

    As far as weight, look at the way some certain circles treat Lizzo??! And she's wonderfully talented!!!

  • @ShyeNYC
    @ShyeNYC 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for uploading...I really enjoyed watching! I heard Martha and Izora had a falling out and were still not on speaking terms at the time of Izora's death. I'm glad that wasn't the case.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      Thank YOU for watching. Like you, I was glad to know that they remained friends. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, ShyeNYC!

  • @DaLVShow
    @DaLVShow 3 года назад +6

    That question on how women who were overweight but sing really good only two came to mind. Jennifer Holliday who was in Dreamgirls, the stage play and Kelly Price came to mind. Both started as big women who would later lose the weight. Great artists you may want to do a video on soon.

  • @ninosimone
    @ninosimone 3 года назад +12

    Strong beautiful VOICES

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      You are so right! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, IamNinosimone!

  • @vernaemcalpine3159
    @vernaemcalpine3159 Год назад +1

    These women deserve to have their story done properly and be authentically accurate

  • @darrengreen9273
    @darrengreen9273 2 года назад +3

    People are not aware of this fact, there are many multi platinum hits out there with Martha Wash doing all the leads she just didn’t get the singing credits as was also done in the case of Milli Vanilli.

  • @ndorsey1969able
    @ndorsey1969able 3 года назад +3

    Another great story Ti thank you!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      Thank you so much, ndoresey1969able. Thank YOU for watching!

  • @traceycamille
    @traceycamille Год назад +1

    I LOOOOOVED HIM AS A KID! Cried when he died! And MARTHA NEEDS HER FLOWERS NOWWWWWW! THAT VOICE IS ICONIC! ABSOLUTELY ADORED HER AND IZORA TOO 💗

  • @lymarie1974
    @lymarie1974 3 года назад +4

    All of them are forever legends ♥️♥️. The writer of that terrible article was mostly saying " the entertainment was watching obese people dance and singing." Just sicking. How hurtful. The writing of yester year would be shot down now.

  • @jasminehill6312
    @jasminehill6312 3 года назад +3

    This was great! I've always wondered what happened to Izora.

  • @realdeal5714
    @realdeal5714 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  2 года назад

      Hi Roberta Clark! Thank you so much for your generous gift to the channel!

  • @wills2605
    @wills2605 3 года назад +1

    What an excellent video & narration & superb psychological profile. This has to be one of the best documentaries on RUclips. Thank you.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      Hi wills! WOW! Thank you SO MUCH for your beautiful compliments on my work. I am truly humbled.

  • @theresawebb1968
    @theresawebb1968 Год назад +1

    Raining men will always be a classic it won't change.

  • @Cyber_Diva
    @Cyber_Diva 7 месяцев назад

    My favorite duo! I listen to "Just Us" regularly. The vocal arrangements are amazing!

  • @junawallace7315
    @junawallace7315 2 года назад

    Great video on some unsung vocalists. Ps Dr. Umar at the end never fails to crack me up lol.

  • @ruff1draft
    @ruff1draft 3 года назад +2

    Good for these ladies. One of them is still currently alive.

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers1117 3 года назад +5

    WOOOOOWWWW LOVE THIS!!!!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      YAY! I'm so glad that you love it! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Janella Rogers!

  • @joshuamcdowell9745
    @joshuamcdowell9745 3 года назад +10

    Jennifer Holliday went through the same thing.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +4

      Too many overweight women singers go through similar things. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Joshua McDowell!

    • @modgafr1852
      @modgafr1852 3 года назад +3

      Yes I remembered when simon on american idol told her that. He was so wrong😔

    • @joshuamcdowell9745
      @joshuamcdowell9745 3 года назад +1

      @@modgafr1852 That was Jennifer Hudson

  • @champaigne16
    @champaigne16 3 года назад +7

    J-lo, Brittany, are two that come to my mind.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад

      I agree with both of those for sure. Thank you for commenting, Benita Nelson!

  • @angelawilliams971
    @angelawilliams971 3 года назад +4

    Two tons of fun beautiful women who could sing.

  • @gabrielmatthews9494
    @gabrielmatthews9494 3 года назад +3

    It doesn't matter what you do; people will judge you! Whatever stands out about you in the entertainment business, people will point out that what makes it easy to remember you!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  3 года назад +1

      That seems to be the case. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Gabriel Matthews!