@@ahmettosun8196 I know JRR Tolkien created an entire elven language called Quenya to write the lore for most of his books. When he wrote The Silmarillion, alot of the Quenya language was used. I think a lot of fantasy use Quenya, or at least take inspiration from it. I'll have to look into it more, but my hypothesis is that the elven language used in the Dragon Age series AT LEAST takes inspiration from Quenya.
I just realized. There was a banter where Varric said that 'the best villain is the one who was at your side the whole time' and 'one who doesn't see himself as evil but has some justification'. First I thought he talked about Loghain but... Wow. Dread wolf, you've been predicted by the very best.
+ZaZaCobra very, very clever little bit of foreshadowing they slipped in there, honestly. definitely takes a second playthrough of the game to catch that, though it did make me wonder (for like three seconds before i wrote it off like everyone else, lmfao). well played, bioware. sneaky sneaky.
@@angelajennings1633 they actually never showed to us that they had sex. So maybe they actually didn't? I don't know, but surely they would loove to show us some extra sex scenes if they had an opportunity. 😄
Veronika A. I’m sure they thought about a sex scene lol but considering how the whole fandom considers him as a scrawny-bald-ass-hobo-egg-man, we would’ve destroyed and meme-ified that scene before he even got a chance to reveal his true self
I love that when the inquisitor says "We have to save him" literally everyone but Cole disaproves. Cole is trying to get the two back together, while everyone else is like "Girl, you need to get over him"
Well if you think about it, especially if he's spirit- it makes sense. Cole is a spirit of compassion and he wants to help people. As a spirit he probably can tell what Solas is feeling even more than Solas can, or want's to. So for all we know it's a weird foreshadowing to how much Solas WANTS to be stopped and saved and Cole's like "DUH THIS is what we need to be doing!"
lmao oh solas. there's only one thing more powerful than a god. a main character. Edit: IT'S BEEN SIX FUCKIN YEARS BRO WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE NEXT DRAGON AGE 😭 Edit(june 2024) : HOLY SHIT????? THIS COMING FALL? I never thought I’d see the day pls just give me solavellan closure
I was playing Dragon Age 2 the other day and had Merrill in my party and in combat, whenever she would say "may the dread wolf take you" the biggest chill would go down my spine
@@Claramata For me it was a happy surprise to hear Gwen in DA2 and Ianto in DAI. I’m glad I like both characters as well and they aren’t like some. Merrill is adorable.
Almost every line he says here is precious, and I love this one in particular: "I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed." It's iambic for crying out loud! And it sounds sooooooo good when he says it in his low and tender voice. Does anyone feel the same?
I don't know what iambic means and i'm definitely going to research that but I replayed that line at least 3 times because of how much i loved how he said it. The voice acting in Dragon Age continues to amaze me! Edit: I googled it and oh my god. I've fallen even deeper for this character.
Inquisitor lost an arm because of the Mark, Solas is throwing everything back into Hell, his love is dying from a mark left from all the shit he started, people want to bicker over the Inquisition not disbanding after they saved everyone's asses, and the Qunari are trying to start an invasion. I don't know who to be pissed off more with....
+JadeRaven24 I do know: Teagan has become a dick and I hope my Cousland kicks Alistair's butt for letting Teagan act so harsh with the inquisitor on Ferelden's behalf.
+Shira H I don't think he disintegrated her arm. His last word to me was the Mark will kill you, Then I showed up without an arm. I interpeted that as my bad ass Inquisitor cut off his arm.
-lets out a deep sigh- I don’t know guys… Despite the fact that most scenes with Solas shatter my heart into a thousand tiny pieces, I can’t help but root for Solavellan so, so much, maybe more than for my Cullen/Trev. Don’t hit me!
I still favor Cullen/Trev, but I feel for Solas having to bear the burden by himself, & leaving his love behind. I wonder how there story would conclude.
I completely agree with you, im in love with Iron bull his romance is just so funny!! But solas and levellan are so beautiful and complicated and every scene with him is painful and so sad, I can't wait to see where bioware take his character and I can only dream, hope and wish that they finally get there happy ending sometime in the future!
Cole 1000% ships Solavellen just for the fact that they're both hurting so badly. Cole's entire existence is trying to help people in pain, and he knows they would both feel so much better if they just banged it out. 😏
Remember Solas’ gravestone in the Fade? His worst fear is “dying alone” I’m betting in DA4 the inquisitor and him will die together as some sort of bittersweet ending.
I remember Bull saying the Qun picks the leaders who can make the hard decisions... and live with the consequences. That is the problem with Solas. He made a huge decision that changed the very laws of nature to the world wanting to make it better. But with those changes came with major consequences, And he can't live with them so he's trying to undo what he believes is a mistake. But ultimately I think he wants perfection which probably doesn't exist.
Kingdom of Hope Or, and this may just be wild speculation, the veil IS a mistake? Name one good thing that came from his destruction of the natural world? Death to the most hyperadvanced powerful race with near uninmaginable magical tech and teleportation inter dimensional construction? Or how about the effective loss of nature. Do we even know how the veil affects the planet? Life? Nature? Since the Fade was a natural state of the world its most likely destroyed something in the balance of nature. You know what happens when nature is fucked? Everything eventually dies. The only reason everything hasnt yet is because even the veil Solas created doesnt stop ALL the fade energy/world and is like a slow drip of water just barely watering the planet keeping it alive, but for how long? How sustainable is life and nature without the fade fully breathing life into the world? How long before the humans or the blight eventually kill every living thing?
“He’s been helping us fight the Qunari the whole time. We have to save him” and I can imagine Cassandra, sera, Vivienne, and even Dorian are like “girl nooo. He dumped you. Move on already”
The more I think about it (and I can't stop), the worst it becomes :( In my first comment I said that maybe I like Solavellan more than for my Cullen/Trev. Well... there's no "maybe" there anymore. I was a Cullenmancer before, and Solas was my second favorite. In base game I could easily get my heart shattered into a million pieces by him and then reload to my Cullenmance Inquisitor, and feel happy again. And when I started this DLC, I had this fluffy, heartwarming romance going all perfect, with a wedding and a dog and settling down, and I loved it, it felt a little "too easy", but great nonetheless. And then I did a Solavellan run.. and this scene ruined everything for me. I can't go back to Cullen anymore, it feels like there's something missing. Solas romance was always unique, every scene with him is so carefully constructed, you can see that he's fighting it, that he tries to stay in control, and then he just snaps and grabs your butt and eats your face (lol, sorry :), but no other scene, not even the waterfall one, is as powerful as this one. It is CRUSHING, it hurts so, so bad, you can see that he loves you more than anything, but his guilt and desire to right his wrongs and to save his people pushes him away. It is pure, delicious suffering and I just can't go back anymore. I am doomed to be trapped in sadness.
+FluffyNinjaLlama I REEEALLY feel you soooo much! I love these two, loved them from the start. This romance is so sad and yet so beautiful... Let's all join in a sad circle of feels.
+FluffyNinjaLlama I know exactly what you mean. My main Inquisitor was an Trevelyan that romanced Cassandra, mostly because my preference is to play as human in my canon runs of the game, but this romance just blasts all others away into oblivion. Now I just go back and look at the other romances and feel it's just all inferior. Solas was so perfectly written, that it feels almost wrong not to play an character that doesn't romance him. I might as well have my Lavellan be the character that follows up from my canon Cousland and Hawke. I'm a sucker for story heavy content, and there is no romance in Inquisition that is more story heavy then Solas.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Would you try to help him to find another way in the next game, or maybe even join in this current situation if there will be somekind of way?
+FluffyNinjaLlama My first playthrough was a Trevelyan that romanced Cullen too, and it was so heartwarming and adorable. But somehow I felt like there was so little, as if there was something missing. When I saw that last scene with Flemeth and Solas, I was like "well let's see how his romance is gonna be like". I wasn't sure what to expect but goddamn I fell so hard for him. Even if his romance have the least parts and you can't even kiss him whenever you want to, his romance felt so complete, it was beautiful and so bittersweet ;_; I just want Solavellan to be HAPPYYY ARGH
Gotta say the voice acting here was amazballs but especially solas's his voice is a lot deeper and sadder you can hear regret in his voice and the pain as he forces himself away from lavellan and pushes himself towards the goal he doesn't really want to achieve but feels like he must. I sympathize with him but good God if he thinks we're just gonna watch him burn the word ! Team cousland, hawke and lavellan are a go !
He’s going to do it because he wants Th elven world back, but being with the inquisition, and especially the inquisitor, has shown him that even though he wants the old ways back, he still sees value in this world. I feel like this romance is going to be a major driving force of swaying solas away from his plans
@@glowhoo9226 I still think ultimately he just wants himself to feel better. Unless the evanuris already have a plan to free themselves such as the blight?
Lol my inquisitor would be saying this as Solas is taking her arm. "Vhenan please don-" "Don't hurt me *laughing while in pain*....I'm *UNARMED*" "Why am I in love with you?"
Bigtoenails probably has something to do with him having 4 years of awake time and having absorbed mythal. Just noticed as well "Before the dread wolf there was Solas" and for flemeth "Before there was Mythal there was Flemeth" I like how they mirror one another
I sure hope it's the Inqusitior that eventually deals with Solas and not the new character in Dragon Age 4 ( since I'm assuming there most likely will be a new character). Doesn't make sense for this new guy to come in and stop him when our Inquisitor has so much connection with him. Especially if you romanced him.
+Shaftell Wouldn't it be interesting if they allowed us to play as both our Inquisitor and a new character? Maybe The inquisitor for small portions where you're only having dialogue choices (cause they're missing an arm) and this other new character for the bulk of the game doing the leg work. Probably won't happen but I can dream.
+Shaftell I just assumed with the way they ended it, that they are doing a mass effect style "import your inquisitor" type of thing where you continue where you left off (plus a bit of a time skip I'm sure.) I'd honestly prefer that because there is still so much left unresolved. I agree, it doesn't make as much sense, nor would it be as satisfying if it was just some random who stepped up to stop him.
It will be hard to play as the same character with the same weapons. Really only a mage or possibly a crossbow would work. They'd have to come up with new fighting styles. I guess a hook to attach to a shield and a blade to replace your hand. Two handed weapon is differently out
+Ancient Warrior Possibly some enchanted arm or something? If the next one IS in Tevinter, maybe they have some advanced machine/magic thing that could make a prosthetic arm. That'd be cool
And this is why I love Dragon Age. You know that even though the Inquisitor has been forced to retire, you can tell that her story, and the bond forged between herself and Solas hasn't yet finished. There's room for new heroes, but also the obvious return of old ones, in cameos that truly are legendary. Can't wait for the Hero of Ferelden to show up an kick some ass. NO WAY she's letting some crazy-ass elven god fuck up the world after the Blight.
+TheRageyCanadian Especially if the HoF is Dalish herself. I guarantee that she'd be pissed that the Dread Wolf is trying to destroy a world that she fought so hard to preserve for her people. At least, that's the way I'd portray her.
this must be Christmas for my dalish HoF since she has a trouble for pissed off every shemlen especially chantry reverse mother in origin and now she'll has more ass to kick
This is how I view Cullen vs Solas romance lines: - Cullen is like that perfect person you dream of finding. You cheer for the protagonist as she comes to love this man that challenges her, believes in her, and fights for her. Yet it's . . . too perfect. There needs to be more drama to the story. It's the kind of romance that you want to end in tragedy that makes you cry your heart out onto the pages of a good novel. - Solas . . . Now that's a relationship that calls for multiple sequels, a redemption arc, and a movie adaptation. It's brilliant in it's complexity. The natural feeling of dissatisfaction at the end leaves you wanting more and clamoring for the next installment. I love both romance lines for their own merits. Give me more!!!!
The Cullen romance would have more flesh to it, if there was actual personality conflicts between him and the protagonist. The sappy romance will always ultimately come off as unearned or cheap, so long as it remains a simplistic "don't choose the obviously and needlessly insulting dialogue option". They actually could have created interesting conflicts for the character, with regards to his views on Templars and Mages, which would connect the romance subplot directly to the main storyline.
I agree. Cullen immediately falls in love with the Inquisitor and the romance felt too rushed and perfect. Trevelyan family is religious and the Inquisitor was almost forced to serve the Chantry, I expected a conflict based on this aspect.
I know that Bioware always approves of diversity and representation in their games, but I honestly think that the Elven female is the canon Inquisitor. Her role as an elven savior of Thedas (following in the steps of Shartan, Warden Lyna Mahariel, and defying the history of the Exalted March), succeeding Inquisitor Ameridan as an elf and a warrior/mage, and the deep bond she forges with Solas and his cause--knowing that to save what she loves, she has to destroy whom she loves; Elvhenan and Fen'Harel. Seriously. This can't get any more perfect for canon.
Elvrn Mage it just feels right. It spits in the face of everyone's beliefs, rising up from discrimination from all sides of the spectrum, learning the deepest part of Elven history forgotten by her own kind. Proving that Mages can be trusted, Elves aren't just slaves or lower beings. Even falling in love with Solas feels canon to me. Lile their is no better narrative than this to me.
Tuckinator inator Completely agree with this. Despite the heartbreak, I had to go through with it all because it felt SO right. More than any other parts like that in the games, tbh. Most I can see either or, but with the heavy elven lore and focus in Inquisition and the DLC end with a romance, it feels incredibly canon and has a lot more potential and implications for future plot. While I would hope there could be an option to play the Inquisitor (although if they keep the style of the games, it seems unlikely, sadly) or at least see her in a future game(s) and play a big role like other characters, it would just be perfect. Absolutely golden.
I just hope we can actually recreate our Lav's and getbthat closure inqy needs from solas. but i hope out choice at the end of trespasser is meaningfully ads content to VG
in all fairness it was the elves who first disovered Thedas and then along came the humans and slaughtered most of them and took the credit of discovering Thedas for themselves. The humans r the true monsters, especially ones associated with the Chantry
He takes no pleasure it destroying this world, but it is a consequence of restoring the elven world which is a sacrifice he must make. I have no trouble in understanding why he would do so.
"I would not lay with you under false pretenses"...that hurt. He wanted to lay with her and hold her so much, but knew that he couldn't... This romance kills me. It's so tragically beautiful... 😭💕
There was a going romance scene that would have taken place at the lake where Solas broke up with us. That scrapped romance scene was given to another BioWare character; Jaal in Mass Effect Andromeda where he would take Ryder to a lake
@@mase5995 Oh my God, really? Urgh that scene would’ve been so much better for Stolas and Lavellan. Don’t get me wrong, I adore Jaal, but - ehhhhh Stolas is just - 🔥
How to have a great experience with Dragon Age romances: 1. Romance with Solas 2. Romance with Anders 3. Romance with Alistair (play as elf or dwarf and not becoming a queen)
I guess Tevinter would be the best bet against Solas, since he doesn't know much about them, and they have the magic and the history of "dealing" with the elves. Also now, since Dorian is becoming a powerhouse in Tevinter, i smell an alliance could be totally possible. And perhaps they are the people that "he doesn't know about" hinted to by the Inquisitor.
+Anas Chibani An alliance with Tevinter would make me VERY curious. Tevinter is talked about so much, I really hope we are going there for the next game! I doubt we will have the same protagonist, but I really hope we will see many old characters come into play! And I do hope the finale is getting closer. I don't want Dragon Age to be a 10+ games series.
+Anas Chibani Much of Tevinter's magic and advances are actually based on ancient elven technology and knowledge. As a result, Solas probably knows a great deal about the Imperium.
+MadTahaney i already have few characters in mind that i hope to appear (if they are alive) these are Dorian Sten Shale Fenris Anders Tallis and maybe even isabela since she may become follower of the Qun if you give her to Arishok i just hope that even some of these characters will come back since Solas knows nothing about them (except maybe Sten). Well this is just me getting hyped as fuck :p
+Gazorim Yeah i'm hoping for a fenris return, for the sake of fucking up a mage's evil plan, i think he'd be more than okay with that. I always did find the possible interactions between dorian and fenris to be interesting, would definitely like to see them "working" together in some shape or form. but dorian is going to be an obvious cameo or mentor if not party member.
I WANT to see Sten SO BAD. Even in DA2 I was expecting to see him and felt very disappointed. I agree that Dorian x Fenris could be very, very interesting. I won't get to see Anders since I killed him. I'm afraid to see Merrill though. She's the type to faithfully follow Fen'Harel... I feel like most of the DA2 characters are in perfect position to come back, with the exception of Aveline. I hope Bioware manages to redeem then, since I really felt no sympathy for them throughout DA2!
So, replaying DAI for the 6th time and romancing Solas (AGAIN) because of course I am, when suddenly Varric and Bull have this little gem of a conversation: B: Hey, Varric, I was reading your stuff... Where do your bad guys come from? V: Well, some of them come from Tevinter and some are Ben-Hassrath spies... but I like the stories where *the villain* was *the man beside you the whole time*. The best villains don't see themselves as evil. They're fighting for a good cause, willing to get their hands dirty. And I'm sitting here like: SO MANY DAMN HINTS I CAN'T EVEN- *breathes deeply* Well played Bioware, well fucking played...
The line "Solas, Var lath vir suledin" is the best and most favorite line in every dragon age series to date. It was that moment solas became my most favorite romancable character in any video game. He is the only character in a video game who targeted every place in my heart. although i romanced sera my first playthrough... At first I didn't trust him... like at all. All to soon I hated him, he irradiated me on every level possible. Then I was curious, he was so wise and he seemed to care for spirits and mages like i did. I couldnt tell if he cared much for elves or not because half the time he would either dis them or defend them. I slowly grew to respect him but that was it for awhile. Then I grew to trust him to have my back, I realized he never did fail to defend me and he was incredibly powerful, s I helped him and sided with him several times. Then I grew to love his character. When the game ended in the "final" scene I was beyond shocked, at the time I was unaware I cared for solas' character, it just struck me right then because I was crying and then felt enraged. Betrayed. Every emotion I ever felt swirled inside me... then I watched the playthrough of the tresspasser dlc (I own an xbox 360... so sadness) and I wanted to hate him but I couldnt, when the inquisitor said that line I was like "..........yup I'm done.... best romance ever, fuck it im out"
"I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed." They way Gareth David-Lloyd says the line sounds as if it were poetry. The writing itself is a masterpiece and after all these years. It still sticks with me.
I don't know. I think romancing Solas makes more sense than romancing cullen as a female elf, even though it's evidently heartbreaking. I mean it gives it more depth for Solas to have conflicts within him whether to save his world which will destroy her or not destroying her world and forgetting his own people altogether(although he is extremely decided on this one). Both options seems quite selfish. He can't have both. He can't have his love and his world at the same time. He even says at the waterfall scene "maybe in another world", signifying that he wish he has met her on his world. He cuts off his attachment with Lavellan because he is guilty of making himself attached to her world. Also, there is more chances of stopping a person when that person is someone you love. Maker, I can't stop myself from thinking about this after finishing my playthrough which was a day ago. Also not to mention the tears in my eyes whilst listening to the lost elf theme. *sigh* all my Solas feels laid to bare
SAME. I usually go for Trevelyan mage with Cullen (since he had a thing for a circle mage in the first game) and dalish elf (made mine a mage lmao) for Solas. :D
Coming back here after watching the gameplay reveal of The Veilguard, Solas says "I've taken precautions to minimize damage", as a Solamancer, we can read it as him wanting to spare Lavellan and it's destroying me.
.... guys. Something just occurred to me. You know that banter between Solas and Sera where she stuffed lizards in his bedroll...? Sera stuffed lizards in the Dread's Wolf's bedroll and he trolled her in return.
If I knew how to animate on a professional level and had access to the files for this scene.... I would change the animation near the end from around 12:41 - your Lavellan's face is in utmost pain and starting to lose consciousness. as you start to collapse on the ground, Solas grabs you gently - "My love..." while starting to give you the final kiss, his right arm gently holds your anchor hand, and a flash of light starts to emanate from his right hand until the screen fades to white (transition) when the white fades away, your inquisitor is unconsious, but you as the player sees her anchor hand about halfway to fully disintegrating. Solas looks back one last time, says "I will never forget you." then leaves. I swear if Bioware had more time and effort into this scene to make it like this, it would have had a wayyyy more powerful emotional impact.
I like that you showed some apprehension after he said he'd let this world die, because a lot of people decided to choose the "I agree with you." I was interested in seeing what he'd say if you didn't. Destroying an entire world and most likely everyone in it to bring back the good ol' days doesn't sound like a great idea, especially when this world has started to fix itself. It could be so good in its own way. Give it a chance, Solas, c'mon.
Having played through this and had time to absorb everything, I'm left with three main thoughts. 1) Solas is my favourite villain/tragic hero in any form of fiction ever. I have such complicated twisting feelings of love, friendship, betrayal add horror about him. It's everything Anders should have been. 2) The Inquisition was a masterstroke from a story perspective about how to introduce a new PC to this incredibly complex and textured world, and I loved every second of this game 3) I am frothing at the mouth at the thought of Tevinter finally appearing in the series, maybe even taking control of a magister! I am so excited I can't even. I can only hope when the next game finally comes, The Lama Who Delivers will be there with us again...
That last scene... I hope the next game will show the Tevinter capital city of Minrathous in as much detail as possible with huge options for exploration.
The music when seeing Solas again just brings me to tears and sends chills down my spine. The musical note for this was absolutely perfect for this final interaction to end the game. Props to the music crew big time. I will see you again vhenan, and I will save you.
I make a stark bet as in whether Solas will be the main antagonist or just a glimpse on what's really inbound. Everybody that watches this ending focus so hard on the phlegmatic yet fiery emotional aspect of the romance/friendship between the Inquisitor and Solas that seems to forget all about the destructive potential behind other Dragon Age titles or DLCs. The Evanuris are pratically the first concrete possibility. Add the imminence of another Blight and Archdemon arrival to that by any of the remaining Old Gods; Razikale, Lusacan or even the reputed Eighth Old God depicted in the constellation "Draconis" and stricken from historical records. Also the awakening of the Titan in The Descent DLC (since there's a wall carving you find underground during the walkthrough of the Trespasser DLC which demonstrates the Evanuris enslaving the first Titan[s]), the existence of powerful others Avvar Spirit-Gods and even the return of the original Magisters or some equally terrifying and potent Blight being. Of course, all of this excluding the war between Tevinters and Qunari. As you see, there's no point in Solas being the only and main concern of the next game as all DA games fully explore the path galore to bloody, complex and captivating plots. My guess? That at least a Blight and the Elvanuris will follow up in this next title along with Solas plan and the Tevinter-Qunari War. It's going to be massive!
Not only wishing, but hoping! Such as in a portion of the gameplay, probably in the late climax, in which the protagonist might actually have a chance do redeem or bring down Solas by helping him fight against the Elvanuris after he realizes the foolishness of his plan or kill him after he/she/they is/are done dealing with them, respectively. See the prime potential? Add an imminent Blight, the arising of another powerful blighted being (like Corypheus) or the appearance of the Titan and, of course, the Tevinter-Qunari War. Among inumerous new possibilities, all of this could even be simultaneously! Bioware has everything to make this next Dragon Age a fantastic next installment of the series. ;)
Levynus Do you think the orbs of the evanuris was once from the titan? And why were there a lot of those from the back of the Vir Dirthara. Oooh I was thinking of that as well. They can't end DA without wrapping up all the story. HOF is in Weisshaupt. I really think they'll end the story in Anderfels or maybe hrm somewhere else we don't know? He really does need to be redeemed. (: It'll be terrifying if we find Elgar'nan corrupted and still manage to be sane....kinda. Like Kerrigan for example? I really can't wait for the graphics and the story! Holy shit Andromeda looks epic.
+ Maw Tem Yeees, I just can't possibly wait aswell! And maybe, I hypothesized that also. The orb must be a tremendous source of raw power, it could even be derived from the power of the Old Gods (uncorrupted) aswell, since Corypheus was able to use it somehow after unlocking it. Indeed, I really wish to see the HOF redeemed and successful in his endeavors to cure The Calling and likewise Hawke (case of which he survives that fade part in DAI) helping the Grey Wardens against a most certain fatal Blight or chaos in the Anderfels that is to come. As for Elgar'nan... let's say I expect the Sun to bright less on that day, as the Wolf and the Dragon shall eclipse it. Haha ;)
Levynus We will probably see Hawke when the veil is removed by Solas ...maybe. It'll be fun if we can customize our previous characters even the HOF lol. HOF is running out of time, how many years does HOF have left? They really need to find a cure. I feel awful that I exiled the Wardens from Orlais but I do know they will rebuild. DA1 for example was focused on rebuilding the Wardens. (: So I don't think the exiling decision matters. Who do you wish to be the main villain of DAI4 from your suggestions? Lol haha good 1 I'm really addicted to theories of DAseries.
"... I would not lay with you under false pretenses." Am I the only one who was a little disappointed that pretty much ever other pairing option had an "intimate" scene, yet Solas doesn't, but has a few lines that imply that the two did have sex at some point in time. Is it odd I feel a little cheated...?
Iron Bull in particular has some...very interesting implications on what he and the Inquisitor have potentially done together. Like, that "chandelier" thing he mentions makes me both curious as to how the two accomplished "intimacy" on a chandelier of all things, but also makes me scared of the answer.
I'm disappointed as well. His romance moments, although they end in tragedy, are by far the most passionate of them all. I would have loved to see him make love to his female companion. They don't need full nudity to accomplish that.
I always liked the uniqueness of the lack of sex scenes in the Solas romance. It made you feel so much love for the guy and so much heartbreak at the end, without those scenes. Makes me feel like it was the best written romance for that reason. You get so much less, yet feel so much more.
Well at least the whole romance was very passionate and he had a legit reason. I can’t understand how anyone would choose Sebastian in DA2. That one really got on me nerves
+Caio Trubat I hope so, I want to see this character reappear in the next dragon, along with my gay character who romanced dorain. These seem to be the most promising of the romances for the next game.
Chills man. I still get chills. I really hope the Inquisitor plays a role in the next dragon age, and I hope their relationship carries over so we can see it come to fruition.
"Remember Briala from Halamshiral? For a time, she controlled the Labyrinth. One of my agents was suppose to take it from her, but he did not succeed. I had to override the magic personally." ....Felessan
Anyone remember how there was a party banter between Dorian and Solas where Dorian was asking Solas what was up with his wardrobe saying it was "sorry".?? lol I wonder if Bioware deliberately made Solas now look badass bossman because of that dialogue. Gotta say... I am loving this new look over the hobo one.
Can we take a moment of pleasure (especially if you kept up the playful flirting between Dorian and Inquisitor), of how he disapproves of you trying to save Solas.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Honestly with what Lavellan says, I am not surprised by her companions reaction. I mean it was : "That's why Solas left, he has been helping us fight the quanari all this time" ..and yeah.. we all know that what she says is far from the truth. So I am sure when all the companion heard it they were like "uhhhh i dont think thats whole thing".At this point they might also be thinking dayum this girl loves this guy so much she is naive Cole on the other hand seems to not care for the conclusion but her feelings. He as a compassion spirit understands the love Lavellan still carries for Solas. At this rate Cole sees that Lavellan loves Solas unconditionally and will not stop until she can be with him. Hence the approval of the decision to "rescue" him (because also Sola's is his friend).
+ravensep cole knew from the start who solas was ence why he support lavhellan, his not a bad wolf remenber that n.n cole wanted to save solas hes a spirit of compassion he know what solas must have suffer also what lavhelan suffer, the both of the loving each other so much yet their duty overcome their time together.
Well, to be fair, he HAD been helping fight the Qunari for the entirety of the DLC. Otherwise, Thedas would have been thrown in chaos due to them invading successfully. The PROBLEM is Lavellan saying "That's why Solas left".
When I first played DAI, I had no intention of romancing Solas (I was gonna go for Sera) but then after talking with him a few times I couldn't help but find the lil egghead charming and interesting, like there was more to him. His romance overall was heartbreaking, but interesting in my opinion. You can tell he's hurting as well. The way he speaks, hell, even the animation in his last scene gave him the look of a kicked puppy. We learn that Solas isn't doing this out of joy, but of duty and guilt and that kind of stopped me from hating him altogether. He still loves the Inquisitor but he knows that he must destroy the world for the "good" of his people. He's sad. He's conflicted. I think people hate Solas and talk about his romance disappointedly mainly because they think he's a monster that tricked and betrayed you out of amusement. He does trick you but again, he'a not happy about it. He still loves the Inquisitor.
Love isn't easy and I love how complicated their relationship is. It's great storytelling really. I just hope somehow they could resolve the matter and maybe disappear to somewhere safe forever? Where no one could hunt them down.
No video game has ever made snot cry so badly then this storyline. I love him so much. I am waiting on baited breath for the next game hoping to get some closure with these two.
is it just me now I really want a sequel or rather the next installment of Dragon Age. wonder if they'd continue along the plot of Solas of Stopping him or helping him. just a thought.
Ryan Lopez I'm wondering the same thing, I know it's tradition to start each game with a new protagonist, but I really hope they choose to continue the story with the inquisitor, I feel like it's more meaningful if solas is the main villain
siroB civorodoT I would argue that Corypheus, like Fen'Harel, wanted to reshape Thedas in their own image. Corypheus thought he would need to revisit the Black City to bring this about, Fen'Harel just needs to bring down the Veil.
+Landis963 Corypheus would already destroy the world. Solas is giving Inquisitor a chance to prove him wrong. he wants him to find another way for him basically lol. that's at least the dialogue he gave me "i would be glad to be proven wrong", he said while helping with the mark.
Lamba Delta He wasn't even planning on giving anyone so much as a howdy do before destroying everything they knew and loved, first off. Second off, his views on the subject by the time of Trespasser are heavily influenced by you, and third off, no matter how well you butter him up or how badly you piss him off, he's still working towards the goal of "destroy the world so I can bring it all back the way that it was!"
It's different, not only because he doesn't really want to destroy the world, but we (at least I) don't want to kill him. Bioware did a great job with this character.
I know if you join the Friends of Red Jenny it's shown that the Inquisitor has a hook attached to the elbow, but it'd be fun to switch it up between other weapons, and if the Inquisitor is a Mage, magic could be infused with the various attachments.
The Grey Warden He had a reason, no one denied that. However it's not a reason to beat people with the subject to death, or assumes everything is somehow related to it, for example the little chat between anders and carver, anders say does carver hate him just because he's a mage and carver replies that he only hates anders because he doesn't shut up about it.
This may be completely farfetched, but I'm wondering if the Evanuris might be connected to the Taint. Corypheus claimed on several occasions that the Black City was already blackened and that The Maker's throne was empty when he and the other magisters entered it. In the DLC, Solas explains that the Evanuris were so corrupted by their lust for power that they killed Mythal, one of their own, simply because she didn't share their desires. He also sealed them away because an eternity of torment was the most fitting punishment for their crime. That being said, could the Golden City be the place where Mythal was murdered? and her murder is what turned it black?"
+Cole Jordan 1. In the dalish origin the dalish warden get the taint from on of the mirrors. Also, the black city is most likely that legendary elven city, Arlathan.
Yeah it would. But there were some pretty massive revelations in Inquisition like Corypheus claiming that the Golden City was already blackened when the Magisters entered, Solas causing the aging of the Elves when he created the Veil, etc.
It's been nine years since this sad farewell scene. And the nine-year wait has been shattered and betrayed by a trailer video from a few hours ago. I'm hoping the follow-up trailer, which will be released on the 11th, will be normal.
Misc observation- Solas does the eye glowing thing before feeling up romanced Inky versus no eye glow hand touch in platonic versions. Simply an effect of healing with a kiss instead of hand touch, camera angles not showing eye glow during platonic scenes or something else going on? Everything about Solas makes me go ಠ_ಠ It's probably me being paranoid.
Imagine playing as a member of the Inquisition/New Organisation in Dragon Age 4 and The Inquisitor serving as your leader and/or mentor. It would be great!
I gotta say, when I first played the game, and before any of the dlc, I really didn't like solas. but after this dlc came out, he became one of My favorite characters. I just couldn't see his complexity before. he had an amazingly written story and Trespasser fleshed it out wonderfully
The first time I completed the game, I had Solas in my party to take down Corypheus. As such, I equipped him with some of the best gear I had, so when he left immediately after the orb had been destroyed, I was pissed that he stole some of my best equipment. After finishing Trespasser, I was even more pissed. The fucker not only stole my gear, he stole my hand!
This breaks my heart every time I go through the scene. For some reason I am hoping for a different outcome where Solas and my Inquisitor gets to live the rest of their lives together....
this is the most amazing endings i've ever seen in video games , one of ur close friends becomes your enemy , eve if we play someone that solas don't know in DAI 4 i will always hesitate if they tell me to fight solas
Wow. This game grew on me tremendously since launch. I remember almost quitting for good after getting lost in Hinterlands limbo. Then they introduce a fantastic villain in what may at first seem to some a head-scratching narrative choice (hobo magic elf buddy turns out to be the infamous trickster god responsible for many of the issues plaguing Thedas and now he wants to destroy the world despite his romance and friendship with the main character?) but unravels into an unforgettable and exciting step towards this series’ conclusion, and now I can’t wait for the 4th game and I haven’t even played this dlc. TL;DR Thought this game was a 6 but issa 9 in my mind now
I can just imagine in Dragon Age 4 , Solas causing Lavellan's death somehow as she and her band of friends are trying relentlessly to save him. Would absolutely destroy him.
In case anyone's wonder the thing the Inquisitor tells Solas at the end "var lath vir suledin" roughly means "our love will prevail"
SilverFlame15 thank you!!
It's our love will endure
Is there a real language in the game? How did you learn its meaning?
This is sad and he responded with an "I wish it could vhenan"
@@ahmettosun8196 I know JRR Tolkien created an entire elven language called Quenya to write the lore for most of his books. When he wrote The Silmarillion, alot of the Quenya language was used. I think a lot of fantasy use Quenya, or at least take inspiration from it. I'll have to look into it more, but my hypothesis is that the elven language used in the Dragon Age series AT LEAST takes inspiration from Quenya.
I just realized. There was a banter where Varric said that 'the best villain is the one who was at your side the whole time' and 'one who doesn't see himself as evil but has some justification'. First I thought he talked about Loghain but... Wow. Dread wolf, you've been predicted by the very best.
Probably talking about Anders
+Bryan Kilmer I know right? Poor Varric. He just draws all the axe-crazy mages to him. First Anders, then Solas. Geez...
+ZaZaCobra very, very clever little bit of foreshadowing they slipped in there, honestly. definitely takes a second playthrough of the game to catch that, though it did make me wonder (for like three seconds before i wrote it off like everyone else, lmfao). well played, bioware. sneaky sneaky.
+† Lithium † Next thing you know in the next game, A random tevintar magistar starts talking about archdemons and varrics makes fun of him
Solas even asks him about tricksters in literature at one point. That made me side eye.
"may the dread wolf take you"
"and so he did"
now that's a big *OOF* right there
Yeah! How's about not sleeping with me if you're going to destroy the world.
solas was like i dont remember clappin them cheeks?
@@elijahgleisner haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
@@angelajennings1633 they actually never showed to us that they had sex. So maybe they actually didn't? I don't know, but surely they would loove to show us some extra sex scenes if they had an opportunity. 😄
Veronika A. I’m sure they thought about a sex scene lol but considering how the whole fandom considers him as a scrawny-bald-ass-hobo-egg-man, we would’ve destroyed and meme-ified that scene before he even got a chance to reveal his true self
I love that when the inquisitor says "We have to save him" literally everyone but Cole disaproves. Cole is trying to get the two back together, while everyone else is like "Girl, you need to get over him"
Cole is like a child of divorced parents
@@mavisnight4468 He just wants Mommy and daddy to reunite
Well if you think about it, especially if he's spirit- it makes sense. Cole is a spirit of compassion and he wants to help people. As a spirit he probably can tell what Solas is feeling even more than Solas can, or want's to. So for all we know it's a weird foreshadowing to how much Solas WANTS to be stopped and saved and Cole's like "DUH THIS is what we need to be doing!"
Cole not just approves, but GREATLY approves, you know what's up in his mind
@@mavisnight4468 "Cole is the goodest boy, period, ever, bar none, shut up"
FTFY
lmao oh solas. there's only one thing more powerful than a god. a main character.
Edit: IT'S BEEN SIX FUCKIN YEARS BRO WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE NEXT DRAGON AGE 😭
Edit(june 2024) : HOLY SHIT????? THIS COMING FALL? I never thought I’d see the day pls just give me solavellan closure
Lmao GL against plot armor Solas.
You tell that to Lee Everett!
Sandro Swen Yeah, sadly he's not in a protagonist in a Bioware game. D:
Too soon man, too soon.
Omg this comment is everything
That armor though, holy shit Solas you leveled up Fam
He has faces on his knees xD
Say no more. *Wears shoes*
oooh yess he is good in that armour...still cant get past how different he looks in it
Gucci made
oh yes he did cannot stop looking at it
The only thing sadder than this romance is the wait for the next game...
Came back here to say
DREAD WOLF RISES
Thy wait is over my good sir
@@crustacean5393 no, it's just beginning
@@nairocamilo heres the problem... Its a teaser which means we might have to wait till 2020
As others have said “The dread wolf wasn’t the only thing that rose with that teaser”
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I was playing Dragon Age 2 the other day and had Merrill in my party and in combat, whenever she would say "may the dread wolf take you" the biggest chill would go down my spine
Marethari Talas also always says 'may the dread wolf not hear your steps' and i'm like 'gurl he WAS (T.T) my boyfriend'
I wish Merrill was in this game so we could see her reaction to knowing the true past of the Dalish and their gods.
@@jeremyzak654 Gwen finding out Ianto’s past, I’m getting flashbacks now.
@@xenon8117 I literally came to Dragon Age fandom through Torchwood and this hurts me.
@@Claramata For me it was a happy surprise to hear Gwen in DA2 and Ianto in DAI. I’m glad I like both characters as well and they aren’t like some.
Merrill is adorable.
I can imagine my inquisitor busting down Dorian's door in the Imperium and yelling, "YO WHAT UP FAM"
billy Siravo jr I wanna see my Hawke with that brood, they were perfect
Regal_Fish yaas!
Regal_Fish Or "Hey Qween"
More like in a threesome between Dorian, the Bull and Fenris
Fenris died in my playthrough, I'm sorry please don't hit me
Almost every line he says here is precious, and I love this one in particular: "I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed."
It's iambic for crying out loud! And it sounds sooooooo good when he says it in his low and tender voice.
Does anyone feel the same?
Solas frequently slips into iambic meter and I'm pretty certain that subconsciously, this was the reason I fell for him so quickly.
I don't know what iambic means and i'm definitely going to research that but I replayed that line at least 3 times because of how much i loved how he said it. The voice acting in Dragon Age continues to amaze me!
Edit: I googled it and oh my god. I've fallen even deeper for this character.
That terrible moment when you realize that you are in love with a video game character. I cry.
I feel you, Anna...
Anna Day the Solavellan feels are real.
I'm still not over it...
IM ON MY FIFTH PLAYTHOUGH AND FINALLY ROMANCED SOLAS AND I CANT THIA LOVE STORY IS TOO AMAZING
Many years later and I still cry over him
Alistair- Half Elven
Fenris- Elven
Solas- Elven
Do I just have an Elven fetish?
It's the ears. They're so pointy, i wanna poke them
I swear, every time I see Fenris, I just wanna poke his ears. They're adorable.
Egg fetish...
;))))))))))
We should make a club. Elven Fetish Anonymous.
I like elf/human pairs. Egg romances only elves, so he goes to the void
When it's 2020 and you are still in Solavellan hell 🙃
Same😭 every time I play I always romance him, I love getting my heart broken apparently
I’ve literally played since 8th grade in middle school and I’ve now been out of high school for a year, lol
2021 now :D
Watching this near Valentine’s Day is even better 🥺
It's 2021 by now and I'm still in this hell 😅
Inquisitor lost an arm because of the Mark, Solas is throwing everything back into Hell, his love is dying from a mark left from all the shit he started, people want to bicker over the Inquisition not disbanding after they saved everyone's asses, and the Qunari are trying to start an invasion.
I don't know who to be pissed off more with....
+JadeRaven24 I do know: Teagan has become a dick and I hope my Cousland kicks Alistair's butt for letting Teagan act so harsh with the inquisitor on Ferelden's behalf.
Solas was the one who saved her from the mark. He was the one who disintegrated her arm so it wouldn't eventually kill her
***** LOL. I'm seeing a lot of ass-kicking in the Denerim palace.
+judiit09 lol ye that would be something
+Shira H I don't think he disintegrated her arm. His last word to me was the Mark will kill you, Then I showed up without an arm. I interpeted that as my bad ass Inquisitor cut off his arm.
-lets out a deep sigh- I don’t know guys… Despite the fact that most scenes with Solas shatter my heart into a thousand tiny pieces, I can’t help but root for Solavellan so, so much, maybe more than for my Cullen/Trev. Don’t hit me!
+FluffyNinjaLlama I know it's okay...I'm just a ball of tears and longing right now. AUUGHGHGHGHGHGHHHH SOLAS YOU EGG.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Right there with you fluffy. Their scene together broke my heart.
I still favor Cullen/Trev, but I feel for Solas having to bear the burden by himself, & leaving his love behind. I wonder how there story would conclude.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Same, I love Trevelyan/Cullen but Solavellan is just on another level, that asshole wolf is just perfect !
I completely agree with you, im in love with Iron bull his romance is just so funny!! But solas and levellan are so beautiful and complicated and every scene with him is painful and so sad, I can't wait to see where bioware take his character and I can only dream, hope and wish that they finally get there happy ending sometime in the future!
... I just want my arm back ...
At least the ending was a nice....farewell to arms.
Solas: It's going to be...all RIGHT, vhenan.
captaingalaxy Iron bull once asked if anyone needed a hand.
You'll just have to make most of with what's *left*.
Sera makes us a new arm later,it's in one of the endings
"Coke greatly approves". I think Cole ships solavellan more than the DA fandom does
Cole 1000% ships Solavellen just for the fact that they're both hurting so badly. Cole's entire existence is trying to help people in pain, and he knows they would both feel so much better if they just banged it out. 😏
He's like a kid trying to mediate his parents divorce-
Hihi, Coke Cole.....
I'm so sorry, dude, the typo was too tempting XDDD
Remember Solas’ gravestone in the Fade? His worst fear is “dying alone”
I’m betting in DA4 the inquisitor and him will die together as some sort of bittersweet ending.
I hope so....
For those that want to save Solas yes, but hopefully not for those who choose to kill him.
@@dirtydan9153well my DAI Inquisitor probably want to save Solas but my DAD protagonist probably won't
I remember Bull saying the Qun picks the leaders who can make the hard decisions... and live with the consequences. That is the problem with Solas. He made a huge decision that changed the very laws of nature to the world wanting to make it better. But with those changes came with major consequences, And he can't live with them so he's trying to undo what he believes is a mistake. But ultimately I think he wants perfection which probably doesn't exist.
Perfection? I think what he ultimately wants is to silence his guilt.
Kingdom of Hope
Or, and this may just be wild speculation, the veil IS a mistake?
Name one good thing that came from his destruction of the natural world? Death to the most hyperadvanced powerful race with near uninmaginable magical tech and teleportation inter dimensional construction?
Or how about the effective loss of nature. Do we even know how the veil affects the planet? Life? Nature? Since the Fade was a natural state of the world its most likely destroyed something in the balance of nature.
You know what happens when nature is fucked? Everything eventually dies. The only reason everything hasnt yet is because even the veil Solas created doesnt stop ALL the fade energy/world and is like a slow drip of water just barely watering the planet keeping it alive, but for how long? How sustainable is life and nature without the fade fully breathing life into the world? How long before the humans or the blight eventually kill every living thing?
One of the only games where you can unknowingly romance the antagonist, and it's genuine. There's no manipulation or abuse, Solas genuinely loves her.
“He’s been helping us fight the Qunari the whole time. We have to save him” and I can imagine Cassandra, sera, Vivienne, and even Dorian are like “girl nooo. He dumped you. Move on already”
One of the few times Vivienne and Sera actually agree on something...
@@HunterKiller762 they’re getting second hand embarrassment from the inquisitor saying that
The more I think about it (and I can't stop), the worst it becomes :( In my first comment I said that maybe I like Solavellan more than for my Cullen/Trev. Well... there's no "maybe" there anymore.
I was a Cullenmancer before, and Solas was my second favorite. In base game I could easily get my heart shattered into a million pieces by him and then reload to my Cullenmance Inquisitor, and feel happy again. And when I started this DLC, I had this fluffy, heartwarming romance going all perfect, with a wedding and a dog and settling down, and I loved it, it felt a little "too easy", but great nonetheless. And then I did a Solavellan run.. and this scene ruined everything for me. I can't go back to Cullen anymore, it feels like there's something missing.
Solas romance was always unique, every scene with him is so carefully constructed, you can see that he's fighting it, that he tries to stay in control, and then he just snaps and grabs your butt and eats your face (lol, sorry :), but no other scene, not even the waterfall one, is as powerful as this one. It is CRUSHING, it hurts so, so bad, you can see that he loves you more than anything, but his guilt and desire to right his wrongs and to save his people pushes him away. It is pure, delicious suffering and I just can't go back anymore. I am doomed to be trapped in sadness.
+FluffyNinjaLlama I REEEALLY feel you soooo much! I love these two, loved them from the start. This romance is so sad and yet so beautiful... Let's all join in a sad circle of feels.
+FluffyNinjaLlama I know exactly what you mean. My main Inquisitor was an Trevelyan that romanced Cassandra, mostly because my preference is to play as human in my canon runs of the game, but this romance just blasts all others away into oblivion. Now I just go back and look at the other romances and feel it's just all inferior. Solas was so perfectly written, that it feels almost wrong not to play an character that doesn't romance him. I might as well have my Lavellan be the character that follows up from my canon Cousland and Hawke. I'm a sucker for story heavy content, and there is no romance in Inquisition that is more story heavy then Solas.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Welcome to solavellan hell Fluffy! :(
+FluffyNinjaLlama Would you try to help him to find another way in the next game, or maybe even join in this current situation if there will be somekind of way?
+FluffyNinjaLlama My first playthrough was a Trevelyan that romanced Cullen too, and it was so heartwarming and adorable. But somehow I felt like there was so little, as if there was something missing. When I saw that last scene with Flemeth and Solas, I was like "well let's see how his romance is gonna be like". I wasn't sure what to expect but goddamn I fell so hard for him. Even if his romance have the least parts and you can't even kiss him whenever you want to, his romance felt so complete, it was beautiful and so bittersweet ;_; I just want Solavellan to be HAPPYYY ARGH
"I know, vhenan."
No, don't...don't call her vhenan. Not in that tone...my heart.
The music alone is breaking my heart
It's seriously so good right?! It's really sad it's not mentioned more often!
it's so nostalgic, makes you feel Solas's burden without having to say a word
It's beautiful
Gotta say the voice acting here was amazballs but especially solas's his voice is a lot deeper and sadder you can hear regret in his voice and the pain as he forces himself away from lavellan and pushes himself towards the goal he doesn't really want to achieve but feels like he must. I sympathize with him but good God if he thinks we're just gonna watch him burn the word ! Team cousland, hawke and lavellan are a go !
dude it would be the actual best team up ever if we got all the heroes from the dragon age games
He’s going to do it because he wants Th elven world back, but being with the inquisition, and especially the inquisitor, has shown him that even though he wants the old ways back, he still sees value in this world.
I feel like this romance is going to be a major driving force of swaying solas away from his plans
@@glowhoo9226 I still think ultimately he just wants himself to feel better. Unless the evanuris already have a plan to free themselves such as the blight?
I guess the inquisitor had a.....farewell to arms.
Peter Hanson Iron Bull aproves
Lol my inquisitor would be saying this as Solas is taking her arm.
"Vhenan please don-"
"Don't hurt me *laughing while in pain*....I'm *UNARMED*"
"Why am I in love with you?"
You just made my life.
When I saw solar turn that girl to stone I was like why can't you do that during the main story
+Joshua Kovzan He was too weak back then. He got his power back after killing Flemeth in DAI epilogue.
i knew he was week but i didnt know it was because he killed flemeth
Ikr, throughout my second playthrough I was all like, "do something useful you fucking egg"
I think it would have been a little too suspicious if he were that overly skilled...
Bigtoenails probably has something to do with him having 4 years of awake time and having absorbed mythal. Just noticed as well "Before the dread wolf there was Solas" and for flemeth "Before there was Mythal there was Flemeth" I like how they mirror one another
I sure hope it's the Inqusitior that eventually deals with Solas and not the new character in Dragon Age 4 ( since I'm assuming there most likely will be a new character). Doesn't make sense for this new guy to come in and stop him when our Inquisitor has so much connection with him. Especially if you romanced him.
+Shaftell Wouldn't it be interesting if they allowed us to play as both our Inquisitor and a new character? Maybe The inquisitor for small portions where you're only having dialogue choices (cause they're missing an arm) and this other new character for the bulk of the game doing the leg work. Probably won't happen but I can dream.
+Kristian Hansen WOW That's a really good idea! :D
+Shaftell I just assumed with the way they ended it, that they are doing a mass effect style "import your inquisitor" type of thing where you continue where you left off (plus a bit of a time skip I'm sure.) I'd honestly prefer that because there is still so much left unresolved. I agree, it doesn't make as much sense, nor would it be as satisfying if it was just some random who stepped up to stop him.
It will be hard to play as the same character with the same weapons. Really only a mage or possibly a crossbow would work. They'd have to come up with new fighting styles. I guess a hook to attach to a shield and a blade to replace your hand. Two handed weapon is differently out
+Ancient Warrior Possibly some enchanted arm or something? If the next one IS in Tevinter, maybe they have some advanced machine/magic thing that could make a prosthetic arm. That'd be cool
And this is why I love Dragon Age. You know that even though the Inquisitor has been forced to retire, you can tell that her story, and the bond forged between herself and Solas hasn't yet finished. There's room for new heroes, but also the obvious return of old ones, in cameos that truly are legendary. Can't wait for the Hero of Ferelden to show up an kick some ass. NO WAY she's letting some crazy-ass elven god fuck up the world after the Blight.
+TheRageyCanadian Especially if the HoF is Dalish herself. I guarantee that she'd be pissed that the Dread Wolf is trying to destroy a world that she fought so hard to preserve for her people.
At least, that's the way I'd portray her.
+Assassin's Den My Dalish HoF would be all "fuck up the shemlen (except Morrigan and my son)and Chantry as much as you want but leave the elves alone"
+Assassin's Den My Dalish HoF would be all "fuck up the shemlen (except Morrigan and my son)and Chantry as much as you want but leave the elves alone"
this must be Christmas for my dalish HoF since she has a trouble for pissed off every shemlen especially chantry reverse mother in origin and now she'll has more ass to kick
+TheRageyCanadian false god
Levellan: did you do it...
Solace: yes.
Levellan: what did it cost?
Solace: everything...
OmG i had the EXACT same thought!
That EGGHEAD really broke my heart 2 years ago and I'm still not over it
I'm replaying it💀💀💀
I honestly wished Dorian could’ve been there to see Solas’ new armor. Gone is the hobo apostate🤣
I'd just like to hear whatever smart ass/ witty remark he made. Lol I love Dorian.
This is how I view Cullen vs Solas romance lines:
- Cullen is like that perfect person you dream of finding. You cheer for the protagonist as she comes to love this man that challenges her, believes in her, and fights for her. Yet it's . . . too perfect. There needs to be more drama to the story. It's the kind of romance that you want to end in tragedy that makes you cry your heart out onto the pages of a good novel.
- Solas . . . Now that's a relationship that calls for multiple sequels, a redemption arc, and a movie adaptation. It's brilliant in it's complexity. The natural feeling of dissatisfaction at the end leaves you wanting more and clamoring for the next installment.
I love both romance lines for their own merits. Give me more!!!!
The Cullen romance would have more flesh to it, if there was actual personality conflicts between him and the protagonist. The sappy romance will always ultimately come off as unearned or cheap, so long as it remains a simplistic "don't choose the obviously and needlessly insulting dialogue option". They actually could have created interesting conflicts for the character, with regards to his views on Templars and Mages, which would connect the romance subplot directly to the main storyline.
I agree. Cullen immediately falls in love with the Inquisitor and the romance felt too rushed and perfect. Trevelyan family is religious and the Inquisitor was almost forced to serve the Chantry, I expected a conflict based on this aspect.
i usually go Blackwall myself. that one can be (implied) tragic too if you send him to the wardens...
Why can't you have both, the drama and the perfect romance?
Cullen is a drug addict with a horrible past who redeems himself with help and Solas is a genocidal lying manipulator who's also an elven "god".
I know that Bioware always approves of diversity and representation in their games, but I honestly think that the Elven female is the canon Inquisitor. Her role as an elven savior of Thedas (following in the steps of Shartan, Warden Lyna Mahariel, and defying the history of the Exalted March), succeeding Inquisitor Ameridan as an elf and a warrior/mage, and the deep bond she forges with Solas and his cause--knowing that to save what she loves, she has to destroy whom she loves; Elvhenan and Fen'Harel. Seriously. This can't get any more perfect for canon.
I agree, although I always felt that Cousland was the more "canon feel" warden, despite what the keep says.
+TheRageyCanadian i have a male version but female version works best.
they probably are. You saw the Elven inquisitor in Hawkon right. Like they said humans make a mess Elves come to save, but get treated like shit.
Elvrn Mage it just feels right. It spits in the face of everyone's beliefs, rising up from discrimination from all sides of the spectrum, learning the deepest part of Elven history forgotten by her own kind. Proving that Mages can be trusted, Elves aren't just slaves or lower beings. Even falling in love with Solas feels canon to me. Lile their is no better narrative than this to me.
Tuckinator inator Completely agree with this. Despite the heartbreak, I had to go through with it all because it felt SO right. More than any other parts like that in the games, tbh. Most I can see either or, but with the heavy elven lore and focus in Inquisition and the DLC end with a romance, it feels incredibly canon and has a lot more potential and implications for future plot. While I would hope there could be an option to play the Inquisitor (although if they keep the style of the games, it seems unlikely, sadly) or at least see her in a future game(s) and play a big role like other characters, it would just be perfect. Absolutely golden.
Hahahahahah I dodged an angsty bullet of hell by romancing Cullen
I did the same by romancing Dorian and hating on Solas the entire time as an elf no less
Hello to everyone who's here after DAV's gameplay. Are we ready to suffer again, Solavellan nation?
wayyyyyyyy better than the terrible trailer please god hit the target bioware
Back into solavellan hell we go
all this time and I still have tears in my eyes watching this 😭
I just hope we can actually recreate our Lav's and getbthat closure inqy needs from solas. but i hope out choice at the end of trespasser is meaningfully ads content to VG
Solas claiming he is not a monster, yet seeks to destroy the world a second time.... Hmmm....
FaeulaPsychoeria that doesn't make him a monster. A monster would torture people for fun or something
in all fairness it was the elves who first disovered Thedas and then along came the humans and slaughtered most of them and took the credit of discovering Thedas for themselves. The humans r the true monsters, especially ones associated with the Chantry
He takes no pleasure it destroying this world, but it is a consequence of restoring the elven world which is a sacrifice he must make. I have no trouble in understanding why he would do so.
"I would not lay with you under false pretenses"...that hurt. He wanted to lay with her and hold her so much, but knew that he couldn't... This romance kills me. It's so tragically beautiful... 😭💕
There was a going romance scene that would have taken place at the lake where Solas broke up with us. That scrapped romance scene was given to another BioWare character; Jaal in Mass Effect Andromeda where he would take Ryder to a lake
@@mase5995 Oh my God, really? Urgh that scene would’ve been so much better for Stolas and Lavellan. Don’t get me wrong, I adore Jaal, but - ehhhhh Stolas is just - 🔥
@@mase5995 I never heard about it. Are you sure the idea wasn't created in your mind?
How to have a great experience with Dragon Age romances:
1. Romance with Solas
2. Romance with Anders
3. Romance with Alistair (play as elf or dwarf and not becoming a queen)
But all of those end terribly. D:
¿Do Geese See God? I think that’s the point
So I did all of those in my first playthroughs of each game... my DA romance track record is tragic
Anders romance doesn't end badly if you support him, you end up running away together doing Maker knows what. but the others tho... woof.
I guess Tevinter would be the best bet against Solas, since he doesn't know much about them, and they have the magic and the history of "dealing" with the elves. Also now, since Dorian is becoming a powerhouse in Tevinter, i smell an alliance could be totally possible. And perhaps they are the people that "he doesn't know about" hinted to by the Inquisitor.
+Anas Chibani An alliance with Tevinter would make me VERY curious. Tevinter is talked about so much, I really hope we are going there for the next game! I doubt we will have the same protagonist, but I really hope we will see many old characters come into play! And I do hope the finale is getting closer. I don't want Dragon Age to be a 10+ games series.
+Anas Chibani Much of Tevinter's magic and advances are actually based on ancient elven technology and knowledge. As a result, Solas probably knows a great deal about the Imperium.
+MadTahaney i already have few characters in mind that i hope to appear (if they are alive) these are Dorian Sten Shale Fenris Anders Tallis and maybe even isabela since she may become follower of the Qun if you give her to Arishok i just hope that even some of these characters will come back since Solas knows nothing about them (except maybe Sten). Well this is just me getting hyped as fuck :p
+Gazorim Yeah i'm hoping for a fenris return, for the sake of fucking up a mage's evil plan, i think he'd be more than okay with that.
I always did find the possible interactions between dorian and fenris to be interesting, would definitely like to see them "working" together in some shape or form. but dorian is going to be an obvious cameo or mentor if not party member.
I WANT to see Sten SO BAD. Even in DA2 I was expecting to see him and felt very disappointed.
I agree that Dorian x Fenris could be very, very interesting.
I won't get to see Anders since I killed him.
I'm afraid to see Merrill though. She's the type to faithfully follow Fen'Harel...
I feel like most of the DA2 characters are in perfect position to come back, with the exception of Aveline. I hope Bioware manages to redeem then, since I really felt no sympathy for them throughout DA2!
"My love..."
CUE THE TEARS. OH MY HEART. MY POOR HEART. I CAN'T STOP CRYING.
Oh my god, he really does speak like he's singing Hallelujah. That's insanely creative character writing.
So, replaying DAI for the 6th time and romancing Solas (AGAIN) because of course I am, when suddenly Varric and Bull have this little gem of a conversation:
B: Hey, Varric, I was reading your stuff... Where do your bad guys come from?
V: Well, some of them come from Tevinter and some are Ben-Hassrath spies... but I like the stories where *the villain* was *the man beside you the whole time*. The best villains don't see themselves as evil. They're fighting for a good cause, willing to get their hands dirty.
And I'm sitting here like: SO MANY DAMN HINTS I CAN'T EVEN- *breathes deeply* Well played Bioware, well fucking played...
Its funny how you if solas is also in the party then he will comment as well
Also iron bull can also betray you so wow
The line "Solas, Var lath vir suledin" is the best and most favorite line in every dragon age series to date. It was that moment solas became my most favorite romancable character in any video game. He is the only character in a video game who targeted every place in my heart. although i romanced sera my first playthrough... At first I didn't trust him... like at all. All to soon I hated him, he irradiated me on every level possible. Then I was curious, he was so wise and he seemed to care for spirits and mages like i did. I couldnt tell if he cared much for elves or not because half the time he would either dis them or defend them. I slowly grew to respect him but that was it for awhile. Then I grew to trust him to have my back, I realized he never did fail to defend me and he was incredibly powerful, s I helped him and sided with him several times. Then I grew to love his character. When the game ended in the "final" scene I was beyond shocked, at the time I was unaware I cared for solas' character, it just struck me right then because I was crying and then felt enraged. Betrayed. Every emotion I ever felt swirled inside me... then I watched the playthrough of the tresspasser dlc (I own an xbox 360... so sadness) and I wanted to hate him but I couldnt, when the inquisitor said that line I was like "..........yup I'm done.... best romance ever, fuck it im out"
Where's my happy ending fam, WHERES THE HAPPY ENDING EGG MAN
*walks on egg shells*
Solas hurts my heart. I kid you not, I cried like a little bitch when he said "my love" 😭😭😭
*pats your head* they will endure.
"I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed."
They way Gareth David-Lloyd says the line sounds as if it were poetry. The writing itself is a masterpiece and after all these years. It still sticks with me.
Coupled with the following line "I woke still weak a year before I joined you.", does it remind you of a certain song?
Solas: "they killed Mythal..."
*Warden pops head in* "so did I"
I don't know. I think romancing Solas makes more sense than romancing cullen as a female elf, even though it's evidently heartbreaking. I mean it gives it more depth for Solas to have conflicts within him whether to save his world which will destroy her or not destroying her world and forgetting his own people altogether(although he is extremely decided on this one). Both options seems quite selfish. He can't have both. He can't have his love and his world at the same time. He even says at the waterfall scene "maybe in another world", signifying that he wish he has met her on his world. He cuts off his attachment with Lavellan because he is guilty of making himself attached to her world. Also, there is more chances of stopping a person when that person is someone you love.
Maker, I can't stop myself from thinking about this after finishing my playthrough which was a day ago. Also not to mention the tears in my eyes whilst listening to the lost elf theme. *sigh* all my Solas feels laid to bare
it breaks my heart that they can't have the best of both worlds.
SAME. I usually go for Trevelyan mage with Cullen (since he had a thing for a circle mage in the first game) and dalish elf (made mine a mage lmao) for Solas. :D
Coming back here after watching the gameplay reveal of The Veilguard, Solas says "I've taken precautions to minimize damage", as a Solamancer, we can read it as him wanting to spare Lavellan and it's destroying me.
.... guys.
Something just occurred to me. You know that banter between Solas and Sera where she stuffed lizards in his bedroll...?
Sera stuffed lizards in the Dread's Wolf's bedroll and he trolled her in return.
Sera is the real reason he wants to destroy the world. A world that created Sera is a world that doesn’t deserve to exist.
@@adamlambboy8332 LMAO
Solas has magnificent thighs.
I cried when I read that he watches her from her dreams. Wow, the pain....
If I knew how to animate on a professional level and had access to the files for this scene....
I would change the animation near the end from around 12:41 - your Lavellan's face is in utmost pain and starting to lose consciousness.
as you start to collapse on the ground, Solas grabs you gently - "My love..."
while starting to give you the final kiss, his right arm gently holds your anchor hand, and a flash of light starts to emanate from his right hand until the screen fades to white (transition)
when the white fades away, your inquisitor is unconsious, but you as the player sees her anchor hand about halfway to fully disintegrating. Solas looks back one last time, says "I will never forget you." then leaves.
I swear if Bioware had more time and effort into this scene to make it like this, it would have had a wayyyy more powerful emotional impact.
Can you do that?? That would have been perfect :O
I wish that kind of animation was in Andromeda LOL
I like that you showed some apprehension after he said he'd let this world die, because a lot of people decided to choose the "I agree with you." I was interested in seeing what he'd say if you didn't. Destroying an entire world and most likely everyone in it to bring back the good ol' days doesn't sound like a great idea, especially when this world has started to fix itself. It could be so good in its own way. Give it a chance, Solas, c'mon.
Having played through this and had time to absorb everything, I'm left with three main thoughts. 1) Solas is my favourite villain/tragic hero in any form of fiction ever. I have such complicated twisting feelings of love, friendship, betrayal add horror about him. It's everything Anders should have been. 2) The Inquisition was a masterstroke from a story perspective about how to introduce a new PC to this incredibly complex and textured world, and I loved every second of this game 3) I am frothing at the mouth at the thought of Tevinter finally appearing in the series, maybe even taking control of a magister! I am so excited I can't even. I can only hope when the next game finally comes, The Lama Who Delivers will be there with us again...
That last scene... I hope the next game will show the Tevinter capital city of Minrathous in as much detail as possible with huge options for exploration.
The music when seeing Solas again just brings me to tears and sends chills down my spine. The musical note for this was absolutely perfect for this final interaction to end the game. Props to the music crew big time. I will see you again vhenan, and I will save you.
I make a stark bet as in whether Solas will be the main antagonist or just a glimpse on what's really inbound. Everybody that watches this ending focus so hard on the phlegmatic yet fiery emotional aspect of the romance/friendship between the Inquisitor and Solas that seems to forget all about the destructive potential behind other Dragon Age titles or DLCs. The Evanuris are pratically the first concrete possibility. Add the imminence of another Blight and Archdemon arrival to that by any of the remaining Old Gods; Razikale, Lusacan or even the reputed Eighth Old God depicted in the constellation "Draconis" and stricken from historical records. Also the awakening of the Titan in The Descent DLC (since there's a wall carving you find underground during the walkthrough of the Trespasser DLC which demonstrates the Evanuris enslaving the first Titan[s]), the existence of powerful others Avvar Spirit-Gods and even the return of the original Magisters or some equally terrifying and potent Blight being. Of course, all of this excluding the war between Tevinters and Qunari.
As you see, there's no point in Solas being the only and main concern of the next game as all DA games fully explore the path galore to bloody, complex and captivating plots. My guess? That at least a Blight and the Elvanuris will follow up in this next title along with Solas plan and the Tevinter-Qunari War. It's going to be massive!
Becareful you might be wishing Elgar'nan to return. ;3
Yeah, terrible things will happen once he strikes down the veil. Its already been hinted.
Not only wishing, but hoping! Such as in a portion of the gameplay, probably in the late climax, in which the protagonist might actually have a chance do redeem or bring down Solas by helping him fight against the Elvanuris after he realizes the foolishness of his plan or kill him after he/she/they is/are done dealing with them, respectively. See the prime potential? Add an imminent Blight, the arising of another powerful blighted being (like Corypheus) or the appearance of the Titan and, of course, the Tevinter-Qunari War. Among inumerous new possibilities, all of this could even be simultaneously! Bioware has everything to make this next Dragon Age a fantastic next installment of the series. ;)
Levynus Do you think the orbs of the evanuris was once from the titan? And why were there a lot of those from the back of the Vir Dirthara. Oooh I was thinking of that as well. They can't end DA without wrapping up all the story. HOF is in Weisshaupt. I really think they'll end the story in Anderfels or maybe hrm somewhere else we don't know?
He really does need to be redeemed. (:
It'll be terrifying if we find Elgar'nan corrupted and still manage to be sane....kinda.
Like Kerrigan for example?
I really can't wait for the graphics and the story! Holy shit Andromeda looks epic.
+ Maw Tem Yeees, I just can't possibly wait aswell! And maybe, I hypothesized that also. The orb must be a tremendous source of raw power, it could even be derived from the power of the Old Gods (uncorrupted) aswell, since Corypheus was able to use it somehow after unlocking it. Indeed, I really wish to see the HOF redeemed and successful in his endeavors to cure The Calling and likewise Hawke (case of which he survives that fade part in DAI) helping the Grey Wardens against a most certain fatal Blight or chaos in the Anderfels that is to come. As for Elgar'nan... let's say I expect the Sun to bright less on that day, as the Wolf and the Dragon shall eclipse it. Haha ;)
Levynus We will probably see Hawke when the veil is removed by Solas ...maybe. It'll be fun if we can customize our previous characters even the HOF lol. HOF is running out of time, how many years does HOF have left? They really need to find a cure. I feel awful that I exiled the Wardens from Orlais but I do know they will rebuild. DA1 for example was focused on rebuilding the Wardens. (: So I don't think the exiling decision matters.
Who do you wish to be the main villain of DAI4 from your suggestions?
Lol haha good 1
I'm really addicted to theories of DAseries.
"... I would not lay with you under false pretenses." Am I the only one who was a little disappointed that pretty much ever other pairing option had an "intimate" scene, yet Solas doesn't, but has a few lines that imply that the two did have sex at some point in time. Is it odd I feel a little cheated...?
+Ivory Inkwell I think it's nice they kept it vague. Not everyone likes sexual intimacy. Other routes are forced to have intimate scenes.
Iron Bull in particular has some...very interesting implications on what he and the Inquisitor have potentially done together. Like, that "chandelier" thing he mentions makes me both curious as to how the two accomplished "intimacy" on a chandelier of all things, but also makes me scared of the answer.
I'm disappointed as well. His romance moments, although they end in tragedy, are by far the most passionate of them all. I would have loved to see him make love to his female companion. They don't need full nudity to accomplish that.
I always liked the uniqueness of the lack of sex scenes in the Solas romance. It made you feel so much love for the guy and so much heartbreak at the end, without those scenes. Makes me feel like it was the best written romance for that reason. You get so much less, yet feel so much more.
Well at least the whole romance was very passionate and he had a legit reason. I can’t understand how anyone would choose Sebastian in DA2. That one really got on me nerves
AAAAAAAND WE’RE GETTING VEILGUARD BABES
Funny how viv insults and makes fun of Solas' spellcasting technique.
Remember that Solas' greatest fear is dying alone ;D
So Tevinter Imperium confirmed for the next game?
+Zeek G
And it *takes* years to make this kind of game. Surely they already know where DA4 will take place.
+Caio Trubat It has to be, but we won't get confirmation for about 3-4 years...
+Caio Trubat FUCK YES FINALLY WE CAN SEE TEVINTER.
+Caio Trubat I think so! I'm so excited to finally see Tevinter! :D
+Caio Trubat I hope so, I want to see this character reappear in the next dragon, along with my gay character who romanced dorain. These seem to be the most promising of the romances for the next game.
OMG, his voice on 12:33..
"I wish it could, vhenan."
My heart :(
I have a feeling that the Black City isn't a city at all. I think it's a prison.
+Cosgrove It's a city... The great elven city.
Odds are it's where the Evanuris are imprisoned.
+Cosgrove All of this is making me think that the Maker isn't real either.. hmm..
Well Corypheus saw the empty Throne means somebody sat there at one point.
@@Husker_XIII the old gods wanted corypheus to open the black city. They only appeared in dreams through the fade, old gods are Evanuris
Chills man. I still get chills. I really hope the Inquisitor plays a role in the next dragon age, and I hope their relationship carries over so we can see it come to fruition.
My dual wielding rouge may only have one arm left but she's going to take Solas' head just like he took her arm.
"Remember Briala from Halamshiral? For a time, she controlled the Labyrinth. One of my agents was suppose to take it from her, but he did not succeed. I had to override the magic personally."
....Felessan
Anyone remember how there was a party banter between Dorian and Solas where Dorian was asking Solas what was up with his wardrobe saying it was "sorry".?? lol I wonder if Bioware deliberately made Solas now look badass bossman because of that dialogue.
Gotta say... I am loving this new look over the hobo one.
Can we take a moment of pleasure (especially if you kept up the playful flirting between Dorian and Inquisitor), of how he disapproves of you trying to save Solas.
+Katie Adams Sadly, everyone disapproves, except Cole.
+FluffyNinjaLlama I think Cole is the conscience of our group. So, I tend to pay attention to his approval.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Honestly with what Lavellan says, I am not surprised by her companions reaction. I mean it was :
"That's why Solas left, he has been helping us fight the quanari all this time"
..and yeah.. we all know that what she says is far from the truth. So I am sure when all the companion heard it they were like "uhhhh i dont think thats whole thing".At this point they might also be thinking dayum this girl loves this guy so much she is naive
Cole on the other hand seems to not care for the conclusion but her feelings. He as a compassion spirit understands the love Lavellan still carries for Solas. At this rate Cole sees that Lavellan loves Solas unconditionally and will not stop until she can be with him. Hence the approval of the decision to "rescue" him (because also Sola's is his friend).
+ravensep cole knew from the start who solas was ence why he support lavhellan, his not a bad wolf remenber that n.n cole wanted to save solas hes a spirit of compassion he know what solas must have suffer also what lavhelan suffer, the both of the loving each other so much yet their duty overcome their time together.
Well, to be fair, he HAD been helping fight the Qunari for the entirety of the DLC. Otherwise, Thedas would have been thrown in chaos due to them invading successfully. The PROBLEM is Lavellan saying "That's why Solas left".
When I first played DAI, I had no intention of romancing Solas (I was gonna go for Sera) but then after talking with him a few times I couldn't help but find the lil egghead charming and interesting, like there was more to him. His romance overall was heartbreaking, but interesting in my opinion. You can tell he's hurting as well. The way he speaks, hell, even the animation in his last scene gave him the look of a kicked puppy. We learn that Solas isn't doing this out of joy, but of duty and guilt and that kind of stopped me from hating him altogether. He still loves the Inquisitor but he knows that he must destroy the world for the "good" of his people. He's sad. He's conflicted.
I think people hate Solas and talk about his romance disappointedly mainly because they think he's a monster that tricked and betrayed you out of amusement. He does trick you but again, he'a not happy about it. He still loves the Inquisitor.
Love isn't easy and I love how complicated their relationship is. It's great storytelling really. I just hope somehow they could resolve the matter and maybe disappear to somewhere safe forever? Where no one could hunt them down.
NO ONE SHOULD HURT MY BABIES! KEEP LAVELLAN AND SOLAS SAFE!
No video game has ever made snot cry so badly then this storyline. I love him so much. I am waiting on baited breath for the next game hoping to get some closure with these two.
is it just me now I really want a sequel or rather the next installment of Dragon Age. wonder if they'd continue along the plot of Solas of Stopping him or helping him. just a thought.
Ryan Lopez I'm wondering the same thing, I know it's tradition to start each game with a new protagonist, but I really hope they choose to continue the story with the inquisitor, I feel like it's more meaningful if solas is the main villain
Plus You trying to fight for your life while fighting your friend or lover seems like it'd be compelling
I hope that you play as a new character but work under the inquisitor just because it sounds more fun to see the inquiz actually lead
Loui12333 thats exactly how i want the next game to be.
Ryan Lopez I would like the option to play both a new character and the Inquisitor. I need Solavellan.
And how exactly do your plans differ from those of Corypheus, Fen'Harel?
+Landis963 Well Corypheus had far less ambitious goals....renewal of Tevinter Imperium,and revisiting the core of the Fade XD
siroB civorodoT I would argue that Corypheus, like Fen'Harel, wanted to reshape Thedas in their own image. Corypheus thought he would need to revisit the Black City to bring this about, Fen'Harel just needs to bring down the Veil.
+Landis963 Corypheus would already destroy the world. Solas is giving Inquisitor a chance to prove him wrong. he wants him to find another way for him basically lol. that's at least the dialogue he gave me "i would be glad to be proven wrong", he said while helping with the mark.
Lamba Delta He wasn't even planning on giving anyone so much as a howdy do before destroying everything they knew and loved, first off. Second off, his views on the subject by the time of Trespasser are heavily influenced by you, and third off, no matter how well you butter him up or how badly you piss him off, he's still working towards the goal of "destroy the world so I can bring it all back the way that it was!"
+Lamba Delta Solas only says that if you have high approval.
It isn't exactly set in stone that he cares about finding another way.
I think Solas going to be a great villain. At least better than corypheus
Corpheus was just a stepping stone for the grand game. :p
It's different, not only because he doesn't really want to destroy the world, but we (at least I) don't want to kill him. Bioware did a great job with this character.
Oh my.. Oh my lord.. That arm.. My arm will go missing? How will I use my weapons.. ._.
+Jayy Le Clearly the only option is to get a prosthetic that doubles as like 5 weapons and kick everyone's butt with your pseudo armoury arm
+JitteringMendacity Welp. I hope I could bandage my prosthetic arm then so I could technically become the Naruquisitor. 8D
+Jayy Le he gets a prosthetic arm
I know if you join the Friends of Red Jenny it's shown that the Inquisitor has a hook attached to the elbow, but it'd be fun to switch it up between other weapons, and if the Inquisitor is a Mage, magic could be infused with the various attachments.
+Jayy Le hah! its nice to be a mage now huh xD
Solas is basically Anders 2.0.
Justice is such a dangerous concept, huh.
+Baked Potatoes Except solas is not a whiny dude who complains every five seconds about how the mages are being mistreated.
+amen adaal "complains every five seconds about how the mages are being mistreated." as if he doesn't had reasons for...
The Grey Warden He had a reason, no one denied that. However it's not a reason to beat people with the subject to death, or assumes everything is somehow related to it, for example the little chat between anders and carver, anders say does carver hate him just because he's a mage and carver replies that he only hates anders because he doesn't shut up about it.
Hey, BioWare! Who wrote that line? “I wouldn’t lay with you under false pretenses” like that’s what she meant? I promise I just want to talk
It’s supposed to convey they Solas refused to have sex with her because he felt guilty about lying and considered it dishonorable.
He’s such a well written character I kind of want him to succeed
This may be completely farfetched, but I'm wondering if the Evanuris might be connected to the Taint. Corypheus claimed on several occasions that the Black City was already blackened and that The Maker's throne was empty when he and the other magisters entered it.
In the DLC, Solas explains that the Evanuris were so corrupted by their lust for power that they killed Mythal, one of their own, simply because she didn't share their desires. He also sealed them away because an eternity of torment was the most fitting punishment for their crime.
That being said, could the Golden City be the place where Mythal was murdered? and her murder is what turned it black?"
+Cole Jordan 1. In the dalish origin the dalish warden get the taint from on of the mirrors.
Also, the black city is most likely that legendary elven city, Arlathan.
+dreman999 Where does this leave the Maker? I am beginning to doubt he is real....
yeathatswhatimeant
I have a theory is that the Maker is Elgar'nan, the Elven "God" of Creation.
Cole Jordan
Wow that would DEVASTATE the Chantry if it were true.
Yeah it would. But there were some pretty massive revelations in Inquisition like Corypheus claiming that the Golden City was already blackened when the Magisters entered, Solas causing the aging of the Elves when he created the Veil, etc.
It's been nine years since this sad farewell scene. And the nine-year wait has been shattered and betrayed by a trailer video from a few hours ago. I'm hoping the follow-up trailer, which will be released on the 11th, will be normal.
Misc observation- Solas does the eye glowing thing before feeling up romanced Inky versus no eye glow hand touch in platonic versions. Simply an effect of healing with a kiss instead of hand touch, camera angles not showing eye glow during platonic scenes or something else going on?
Everything about Solas makes me go ಠ_ಠ It's probably me being paranoid.
I don't care what anyone says, Solas and the Inquisitor is the canon.
I just realized. I think Sandal's prophecy wasn't about the Maker. It was about Solas!!!
Theory : The black city is the prison of the evanuris and they created the blight as part of a plan to free themselves.
Gareth David-Lloyd has a beautiful voice, and he´s an excellent actor!
Imagine playing as a member of the Inquisition/New Organisation in Dragon Age 4 and The Inquisitor serving as your leader and/or mentor. It would be great!
I gotta say, when I first played the game, and before any of the dlc, I really didn't like solas. but after this dlc came out, he became one of My favorite characters. I just couldn't see his complexity before. he had an amazingly written story and Trespasser fleshed it out wonderfully
Came back here after the new trailer to remind myself what a good world setting looked like.
Who’s here after that Veilguard gameplay trailer 😅? I missed solas
The first time I completed the game, I had Solas in my party to take down Corypheus. As such, I equipped him with some of the best gear I had, so when he left immediately after the orb had been destroyed, I was pissed that he stole some of my best equipment. After finishing Trespasser, I was even more pissed. The fucker not only stole my gear, he stole my hand!
Solas still has my highest level staff
I just noticed that in 16:31 on the right from the knife, there's apparently a city named Solas in Tevinter.
This breaks my heart every time I go through the scene. For some reason I am hoping for a different outcome where Solas and my Inquisitor gets to live the rest of their lives together....
I hope too!
And in the end, the Inquisitor was disarmed.
this is the most amazing endings i've ever seen in video games , one of ur close friends becomes your enemy , eve if we play someone that solas don't know in DAI 4 i will always hesitate if they tell me to fight solas
yukki hsn They need to make the Inquisitor just like the Commander. Give him/her the spotlight for DA4!
Wow. This game grew on me tremendously since launch. I remember almost quitting for good after getting lost in Hinterlands limbo. Then they introduce a fantastic villain in what may at first seem to some a head-scratching narrative choice (hobo magic elf buddy turns out to be the infamous trickster god responsible for many of the issues plaguing Thedas and now he wants to destroy the world despite his romance and friendship with the main character?) but unravels into an unforgettable and exciting step towards this series’ conclusion, and now I can’t wait for the 4th game and I haven’t even played this dlc. TL;DR Thought this game was a 6 but issa 9 in my mind now
I can just imagine in Dragon Age 4 , Solas causing Lavellan's death somehow as she and her band of friends are trying relentlessly to save him. Would absolutely destroy him.
The Iron Bull is my fave as a romance option, but even I can admit SoLavellan is perhaps the most compelling DAI romance. Beautiful and tragic.