The Best Espresso Scale Only Costs $12
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- By far the most inquired about item I use has been my espresso scale. Well, here it is.This scale serves practically all necessary functions for espresso brewing!
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EDIT: The long awaited follow-up video to this is now live, the Acaia Lunar review: ruclips.net/video/x986OPjsi2Q/видео.html
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Comment below what scale you're using!
Acaia pearl model s, but I don’t do espresso. Would definitely buy this coffee scale if I did :)
I use TANITA KJ-212.
Even 0.1 grams of this scale can be measured.
Quick response.
I have some unuse scale...
The Amazon scale looks like a great option. I purchased the Rocket Appartamento from Whole Latte Love and with their rewards program I was able to get the Acaia Lunar for free. So have no complaints.
Wow for free? That's awesome!
I have an Escali that I need to replace, It's just not accurate enough and was clearly the weak link in my process. And now I know what I'm getting thank you.
Finally someone is saying that it makes no sense to pay this much for a scale!
It's just chic.
I have the Lunar and absolutely agree with him…. Way overpriced for what it is and what it does. Save your $ and look for other alternatives like the Greater Goods. It’s sheer snobbery honestly to waste your money on the high end scales
I didn't pay too much either, on my coffee channel ebikeCNX7239 I use a $27 Wacaco Exagram. Only $27 uses 2x AAA batteries and is accurate to 0.1g with a timer function for my espresso shots.
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Value for something despite the $$$ is in the eye of the beholder. What may seem ridiculous to you may not be to someone else. Price is not always the defining factor.
Thank you for this! I bought the scale you recommended and you're right, it's pefect for pulling my espresso shots. I sent back a much more expensive scale I had bought previously. It had a lot of nice features, which may well be useful for folks with complicated pour-over protocols, but are not at all relevant to just pulling espresso shots; it was also too big for my espresso machine!
Definitely agree. When I worked as a barista, I got a chance to use the lunar and besides being water-resistant(not officially) it's not any better than many other scales out there. I gotta admit, it's a good looking scale though.
Hi, Xris. Just getting started, researching home espresso, and I find your content to be very useful and enjoyable. Keep it up!
I love my Greater Goods scale! I got a different model for about $22. Larger black scale with nice bright easy to read display, and it's big enough for me to do pourover and measure cold brew on including water. Been using for 6 months with no issues and haven't even changed the batteries yet.
Thank you for showing how quickly it measures!
this scale works so well, so simple and at such a small price. I love it. Glad I used your link to get one :)
thanks for the support!
Thanks for the video. Clear, concise and informative 👍
Bought that amazon scale after seeing once of your videos. It absolutely gets the job done, and so far I see no reason to spend $$$ for a nice one
Right on point Xris! I have also a small scale that cost 25€ and it has a timer too! Better to spend money on a naked portafilter, a milk pitcher, a good tamper, a precision basket and a shower screen and you still have money left to buy a fellow atmos and a bag of coffee 😉!
Thank for this vid! I've been considering upgrading vs using the scale that I have. Two points, good luck measuring anything out to the tenth of a gram so in my mind the purported tenth of a gram precision is overkill. Second, another easy tare solution is to just remember the weight of your portafilter and cup and do the pre-school math to know what an 18 g dose and a 36 g shot is (assuming an 18 g double shot basket in the portafilter).
Mate. I’ve been looking for a fast scale for brewing with the PicoPresso when travelling. This looks perfect. Ordered today. Thank as always.
Totally agree. You don’t need an expensive scale just to get a good espresso. A simple scale and you timer in your phone (w/c every has one) is all you need. You can also find an app that can do countdown timer.
Thank you Xris. My sentiments exactly. I had been looking at the Acaia for a while now and just couldn't justify dropping $200 plus for a scale. Just ordered the $12 scale via your link. I am currently using my Vitamix branded scale and needed a smaller one for my espresso machine. :-)
Thank you so much for this upload. I was trying to convince myself I needed to get a $200 scale but couldn't justify the pricetag! I already have an affordable scale that works like a charm but this would be a great back up if my other goes out! Thanks again! Cheers!
Exactly. I was the same until I saw this video today. Acaia out!!!
Well said! I bought one off of Amazon with a timer and it's fantastic. 12 bucks also.
Thank you very much!! Ur the man!! exactly what I've been looking for lol
I completely agree. Never saw the logic on dropping so much on a scale. If you browse all the reddits and go deep in youtube most people just use scales in the 10$ range.
the only time I could justify that is if I had an LMLM with the custom cutout drip tray that fits the lunar 😂
Been looking for a nice little scale for my home espresso bar, was using an old amazon basics one that for the most part has worked like a charm for being $9 but due to it's shape and size stuck out a lot when placed under the machine so wanted a nice little scale and this ticked off all the boxes, looks like the price has gone up to $23 bucks but had a $10 amazon gift card so I ordered this right away, can't wait to try it. Thanks for the recommendation!
This video hit all the reasons I don't want to spend over $200 on a scale, and also recommended something that will fit under the group of my apartmento. It was also pleasing to the eye, and passive aggressive af. 10/10 subscribed
i strive for pleasing and passive aggressive
The one I use - Amazon - Weightman Espresso scale with silicone bowl $15. The Scale sits in a silicone bottom case, so the backsplash dose not hit the scale from under the drip tray when 3-way valve triggers. It dose have a timer start/stop function button also.
Dude this video had me cracking up... subbed immediately.
thank you so much for this bro. all love from sydney Australia. never understood why everyone uses such ridiculously high priced scales for no reason just fancy branding.
Thank you.. for ending a several hour long quest to find a great and affordable scale that would fit my needs without sacrificing accuracy or quality.
Haha I love your commentary man! Rock solid and on spot! "while most people will look weird at us while we measure weigh and time every drop coming from a machine" :D So true... so true. thanks for this review, exactly what I was looking for as I'm about to participate in the Dutch Brewers Cup 2022 prelims 😊need to practice making 3 brews at the same time. well almost at the same time, cascading. so I need 3 scales. 3 x 225 = heart attack whereas 3 x12 = very doable
I remember an app (I forget his name) that detects the sound of the coffee machine, automatically starts the timer and automatically stops it.
Thank you so much! Ive been searching for something and cant possibly justify the Acaia price!!! Going right to amazon and purchasing. BTW -- who would DISLIKE this video or saving lots of $$$ HAHAHA people with deep pockets or Acaia sales reps? LOL ♥
Dude just got a new suscriber!
Thanks for making this video Xris! Just bought an ECM Classika and was thinking of getting the Timemore because it’s cheaper than the Lunar. But this one’s an even better option and smaller too.
I already own a Hario scale but was worried that the water from the E61 drain valve could damage the electronics, since the Hario isn’t designed to get wet, unlike the Lunar or Timemore.
Is this scale safe from getting wet? How do you deal with that?
Great channel! Keep going :)
When it comes to espresso, it’s more about if the scale skips decimal points of a gram in order to keep up with the speed of the shot. With a good scale, you’ll be able to see the numbers change by .1, whereas a cheaper one might go from .1 to .6 in an instant.
you just got a new subscriber!
I really felt that the bit where you kept misspelling espresso in the Google search 😅
The first scale I bought from a tea shop in Malaysia.. it was around 10usd. Been using it for a few years now... I dropped it countless times and even had water in it to the point rust formed on the battery ends! it is still working and very accurate ...it even measures 0.01g. The only issue is the max load of 200g. I bought another one, which is basically the same scale but with different branding and I think it is 500g. I have two more that are more expensive and geared towards coffee users, I never use them, I'm just using the accurate cheap scales...oh and they are really fast and don't take up space.
I love the fact that the display is on the side, it's a neat feature ! I wish somebody made USB-C version of this model, we're getting rid of batteries altogether in our house so I can't justify buying this
Great Mentions
You are so right. You can also complicate the whole thing unnecessarily
Well said!
Great video. I’m gonna try this scale. The only thing I would add that attracted me to the Acacia is the waterproof aspect. I’m on my second cheap Amazon scale in as many months because the scale has gotten wet under the machine a few times and bombed. So, there is a case to be made there. Not a $250 case…but let’s see how many of these scales I go through.
Greater Goods has a larger black scale that comes with a thin silicone mat cover to protect it from most liquid spills. I've spilled on mine before and although I cleaned it off quickly, it's been working great ever since.
I have this exact scale. It works really good. Just make sure you don't get it wet, i ruined mine and had to order another one. Very responsive and zero to no latency.
I’ve been searching for a good scale for coffee, I typically make pour overs and aero presses. The only thing about this scale that I’m not sold on is it’s small size. That’s great for espresso but I think my chemex would cover the whole bottom including the buttons. What insight do you have on that?
Very good point you bring to the table, as i am embarked on a journey to find me a decent coffee/brewing scale. Just to nitpick, water resistance? does this scale offer a degree of water resistance? because not all of us are so handsy as baristas. I tend to spill from time to time. but I agree, water resistance to a degree, as a acaia offers does not justify the over 200 dollar price.
One problem I've noticed with these cheaper scales that seems to be common is scale drift.
I've been using this scale for about 2 years and it has never let me down. The only thing that I'm wary of is that it isn't waterproof.
Great video
I use the scale for the last year also and it's perfect. Funny to find this video. I was completely confused as to why people are spending $150+ for what are often bulkier thicker scales.
I used this scale for more than half year now, it kinda half broke after the first few weeks after i spilled coffee on it, It still works but the numbers are extremely hard to read, I need to turn my iphone camera flashlight on it in order to read its number, there are no other way for me to read it. It’s not the best but it’s still an amazing value for what it does. I put up with it for couple month and finally had enough and just purchased the timemore scale to replace this couple days ago
Glad to know I’m not the only one who stores my frothing pitcher in my snake plant 🪴
Aaah ah comment of the day!
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Problem for my setup is the drippy pressure overflow and drippy steam want will be right over the controls. Gonna short out.. But thank you
Two things to keep in mind,
water proofing in case something spills (will be hard to clean oils out of this scale)
Some more expensive scales have a better way of handling how the weight "plate" and "base" works which allows for either more accurate reading depending on where you're putting in. For example, cheaper scales use 4 corner points on the bottom instead of using the full base + plate to calculate weight.
While I'm not sure how this scale functions with regards to the 2nd point, I have spilled water on this scale and its held up!
@@itsxris even if it doesn't hold up to a spill, just buy another one lol. You could spill and have to re-buy 5 times and it'd still be cheaper than some of the other scales out there
Now this is a good video comparison.... making the point perfectly "why spend $225 for a digital scale". Amen!
try using a timer with a flair and profiling your shots. My pressures and scales are all synced via bluetooth to my iPad pulling turbo shots and its variants.
Thanks for this, just purchased a Gaggia Classic Pro & was worried the CJ4000 scale wasn’t going to have enough clearance with the machine.
this one definitely does! even fit my larger notneutral lino cup in the past
Been in the espresso game for over 5 years and i have come to realize whatever accessories related to espresso are overpriced af
I agree with this whole heartedly. I was thinking about the acaia at the beginning of the year, but found a $4 kitchen scale with timer from aliexpress and thought I'd take a chance because it was so cheap. I've spilt water on it, dropped it, and tossed it, haha. Still works perfectly 10 months and 200ish pourovers later.
Link
Can you offer the link? I'm searching for a scale, and don't want to spend much money. 4$ seems free if it's good
I bought a small $10 scale & a $10 timer that can magnetically attached to my machine and they work great. No need to fork out $200 more for such a simple set up. I also have a $25 scale that has a timer built in for pour over, works perfectly as well.
Hi would you please link both scales?
When the ending shot popped up (the pic of you staring intently into the camera), I thought it would be neat if that was slightly animated, like a high FPS, slowed down clip of you taking a sip? :)
haha maybe when I have a higher FPS camera at some point
I stopped thinking about it right at the app part. Apps are not needed for every single electronic product or appliance. Thanks so much for this review!
I bought the very same scales. $12 is a fantastic price but here in the UK it cost double that but still a great scale for the price.
0:29 😂 Still waiting for that thumbnail tutorial :)
Haha I'll include it in next week's WorkflowWednesday episode
I am using Felicita - Lunar clone actually. In whole honesty it's an overkill :)
but it's fast when it comes to measuring. Since I am also brewing beer I do use it for measuring hops. Let's say it's ok :)
For the timer part I totally agree with you, you can get a cheap magnetic kitchen timer for 3-4$
The thing where these scales shine is I believe with pour overs where you can actually track the hell out of your coffee routine. For espresso - it's an overkill.
I got a cheep coffee scale with a timer for $25 on Amazon and love it and it super small I just don’t use the auto tare feature or the auto start timer feature I do both manually and love it can put link if asked
Hi I was wondering what are the dimensions for this scale? I can’t seem to find info on that anywhere…
Put the cup on the scale before you turn it on to auto-tare. Not sure about that exact scale but mine does it.
I had this scale and bought a Félicita ARC on AliExpress. Still, you are 💯 % right. Totally useless to pay 10-20 times the price to have that flashy scale. What maters is the result in the cup , and the scale changes nothing .
Well. I guess I saved at least some money with watching your video. And I seem to like this scale even more than the premium espresso scale designs. Thanks. 😇
There's also a Maxus scale on Amazon for about $15 that comes with a timer :) sure don't see the need to get a $200+ scale
Hmmmm, I have the same scale but found it became unreliable after a month. After taring with an empty cup and sitting perfectly still the read-out would start displaying fluctuating weights. I had taped up the battery compartment for waterproofing and then made a little splash guard for when the pressure release spits water out the bottom near the scale when you stop a shot. I ended up going back to my ProScale XC2000
1st video of yours. Subbed.
Great video. Just what I was looking for. Question regarding when to start the timer if manually timing the brew with a scale like this: If I added 3 seconds of pre-infusion to the shot would you say that the timer starts after 3 seconds or start as soon as the switch is flipped? Keep up with the content man. Really appreciate them.
thanks! imo just keep it consistent - if you consistently pull good shots timing it from before or after pre-infusion then I'd keep doing that
I say go for the switch method, as that is always the start. Why time from something which is variable? That's like using an elastic tape measure.
Great video, what is your thoughts on the timemore black mirror , I’m purchasing a scale shortly
Havent had experience with the Timemore, but I am releasing an Acaia Pearl S review later this week
I have a Timemore, dunno which model and I do know my one doesn't have any phone app. It works fine as an accurate scale that doesn't take much room, water doesn't seem to bother it and yes, there is an auto-timing feature. To access auto-timing you just tare as normal, then tap the timer and wait a sec. It will tare again, but this time the timer shows '--:--' and is ready. After the first drop hits the scale it starts counting. however my new machine is the Silvia Pro which has a timer built-in, and really you should use that rather than the scale. I know some say you should count from when water reaches the cup but it makes more sense to time from when it reaches the coffee! I actually have 2 scales, a nice-looking cheap set for weighing beans before grinding and then the Timemore which sits below the cup, so I can measure 30 grams of output or whatever recipe I'm after. Good luck :)
How would this translate to a pour over (1-2 servings)? Cuz I'm planning on maybe getting an extra scale to use for office/travel brewing and i dont really want to lug around my current scale to and from home (ive also recently gotten a new grinder so am planning to move the old one as well as a brewer from my house to full time on the office hence the question about the viability of this for PO.
What about weighing your beans? Do you use the niche cup for that vs. portafilter? Thanks!
Yep, I use the Niche Dosing cup
I think it's quite simple. This was for a time the only scale that is capable of measuring flow rate. Together with machine like Decent or with smart pressure profiler you are able to track what happens with your brew. If you have Decent or SPP you need this kind of scale. That said there is a competition now. It's called Skale 2. Never tested it but I think it does pretty much the same. For fraction of the price. Final note. Acaia is not a scale. It's a flow rate measuring device. If you need a scale buying this product is a waste of money.
What do you use for the black cup liner on top of the Appartamento? Does it stand up to the heat? Thanks!
just simple perforated shelf liner!
This machine is extremely easy to use and makes great cappuccino!
What espresso machine is that?
I have this scale but i don't have a cup to catch the grinded beans. I am trying to find something that can weigh the whole PF
I think Decent has something like that
The Acaia is kind of crazy, but what about the Timemore?
Only about double the price and is designed to prevent liquid from entering the housing.
Should one have a spill or overflow incident I wonder how this little one would fare?
I got a different cheap scale, which works fine.
My concerns are just the consitency and accuracy of the weight. I noticed mie weighs different at some places (Not torque free).
But this can easily be measured with a measuring standard).
Also critical could be, and that's why you have always the same measurement, that it saves the last 10 measurements, and if one is pretty much equal, that it uses the same result.
Which could be verified by measuring randomly the known measuring standard weight.
And that it needs longer to turn on. But this concern are relatively easy to verify.
imo after 10 months of having it without issue, that for the price its perfect
from a technical standpoint I'm sure the Acaia is much better, accurate, faster, etc. but also at a x18 premium that tbh I just think isn't necessary
I've had my Gaggia classic for about a year now and I've never used a scale because everything I've seen has been $150-200. I just ordered two of these scales from amazon, will compare them to see if they are accurate. Thank you for this video!
i just got my gaggia classic yesterday, just pulled my first shot. how are you measuring your grounds at this time sans scale. thanks!
@@charliechan578 I’ve just been grinding until the Portafilter was full, which was very inconsistent and had some good/some bad shots. I definitely recommend this scale, and a dosing cup. I grind the coffee into the dosing cup, then put the grounds into the portafilter. Works like a charm!
what about manual machines, mesuring the flow is important
The Lunar is geared towards a cafe setting however has been adopted by home users. I agree it is massively overpriced however, the way it has streamlined my workflow is great. No faffing with my phone setting up timers etc
very true, paying a premium for sure for home usage
I work in a coffee shop that uses acacia scales and they are kind of infuriating to use. A lot of the smart features are way too easy to accidentally activate and they usually just get in the way. It’s a pretty scale but I definitely wouldn’t pay that much for it
I wonder how many people get the 'git gud' reference, made me laugh! Don't know if there's a big dark souls and espresso community crossover!
Waterproof
where's the part that you talk about the bluetooth
I died alittle bit evwrytime u said akay-yah
I’m currently using a Flair, until I upgrade my espresso maker I’m not dropping £200+ on a scale 😂
The generic Gdealer/jewellers scale from eBay is doing just fine.
My only problem is that is too long for my puristika. Anything bigger that a puristika will work fine.
Anyone that know where you can buy the scale in Europe?
It seems Amazon US will ship it to the EU, unfortunately not here to CH. For me, fortunately I'm visiting the US in a month ;)
acaia needs to come out with a scale that is not full of recipe/ software enhancements!
AGREED!!! I would love to see a 'stupid' Acaia Lunar - all I want is a small, accurate scale, with a timer... it really doesn't need to talk to my phone
Ok, a few counter arguments here. Firstly, the lunar is way smaller, which is needed when you use something like a flair or other lever machine that has limited space for scales. Second, the flow rate tracking is again quite useful for lever machines as they are much more inconsistent, so it would be a good tool to know "ok, this shot was very good with this flow profile, so I can try and replicate it next time". Third, it pairs with the smart profiler for lever machines and decent espresso machines (the brand decent), when you combine an acaia scale with these setups you can get the most accurate profiling of espresso shots, especially on lever machines where you can actually get as consistent with these tools as an automatic machine. These are of course niche usecases, moreso to do with lever machines and profiling shots, and this would make for a ridiculous setup for like a flair (200 dollar scale, 400 smart profiler, all for a 200 dollar machine) but with something like a olympia cremina I could see someone dropping 600 bucks more to get more precious on features out of their machine
The only purpose for getting an acia scale is if you have a decent machine and connect the two in order to get auto stop at a weight
I just want a good scale that is RELIABLE! That’s is! 😂
People who buy a $200 scale for making coffee probably also have a closet full of designer purses, an expensive watch collection, or a car to drive for every day of the week. That, or they have bad spending habits. When money is no object, or you’re just really impulsive, the coffee industry knows just how to capitalize on your desires.
In defense of the Lunar: I own a Lunar. I've also owned the Brewista Smart Scale II, and the AWS SC-2kg scale. And I worked as a barista and cafe manager for 6 years. The Lunar isn't essential for the home user, but it's a nice luxury. Keep in mind that this scale was developed primarily for use in a commercial setting; it's the most responsive and sensitive scale at that price point (you can set it to 0.01g precision if you want), it's very sturdily built, it has a rechargeable battery (that can last for months without recharging, with home usage), and most importantly, it's *water resistant*. Speaking from experience, a $20 Amazon scale will last for about a month of a commercial bar before its display succumbs to water damage from moisture ingress. I also had to replace the batteries in my AWS scale every month.
The auto-tare and auto-timer features are also directed more towards cafes; the workflow is much faster-paced than your half-awake average Joe at 7am, and it's not an uncommon workflow to set the cup on the scale (auto-tare) and engage the pump (auto timer start) all at once. I have my Lunar set to auto-tare and start the timer at first drip, myself. My machine has a timer built in to the PID, so I can already time from engaging the pump. Knowing the time from first drop is also useful if you're playing around with flow or pressure profiling, and have long preinfusions (e.g. taking 30+ seconds before the first drop hits the puck).
Tl;dr The Lunar has convenient features, but it's not a need-to-have.
That I definitely understand, as with 99% of things in this hobby - a lot of it is a luxury (especially my Jibbijug milk pitcher I'm surprised no one has called out yet haha)
I've seen it in commercial use (at bluebotte) and totally makes sense in that setting! The scale I have definitely wont last a commercial setting but 10 months of home use and its still going strong.
@@itsxris Yeah I used my AWS scale for 4 years and it's still in my drawer. Display is a little wonky but otherwise still good. At the cafe I worked at though, it really did only last a month!
bought a $10 and a $20 scale.. but did not last long enough
i would suggest with your next video to buy $10, $20, $50, and the Acaia to compare..
the $10 i bought was changing weight from time to time
the $20 is not accurate
both are battery operated so I need to buy when it's out of charge already.
I dont own Acaia, and definitely will not buy one.
I have the Timemore black mirror.
It looks like Acaia haha but cheaper costs around $40-50
it is rechargeable :) dont need to buy batteries and maybe can save mother earth
it has autotimer
fast response
water proof
accurate
no delays
those $10 and $20 i bought dont have any warranties
the timemore, the acaia, and the other expensive brands have.
I think you should be considering that
Also, putting all features into 1 device is cool and better than using several devices like what you are showing.
You invested in an expensive espresso machine, why not buy the best one out there that is within your budget?
also try buying different weights, compare with other scales if it measures the same, fast response (no delays), accurate
I think the higher the cost, the good technology it has
update us after 1 to 2 years if your scale is still good
@@juanpoy101 My AWS suffered some liquid damage (in 4+ years of use)and the tare function stopped working. I have opened it up and cleaned it and gotten the buttons to be less sticky but the tare still won't work.
Decent scales are so hard to find. I bought like 3 and had to send them back, bc they would measure different weights when I re-weighed things. That's why acaia is so popular I think. However, change is starting to come about, I'm currently using Timemoore scales on Amazon, they're not perfect, but they're the best I've had. The scales you're using look great!!
In summary, I think acaia had a monopoly for a while, but they're gonna have to seriously reconsider their price some time soon.
Specifically a monopoly on scales that are: Fast, Small, *actually* accurate to .1g not jumping around. One of the main things, is to have a capacity that is *relatively* decent as well.
I've heard a lot bout the Timemore ones too, those look great. Acaia definitely has the best scales, no question, but yeesh that premium price you pay for it
@@itsxris can you do a comparison to the time more?
I would if I had one! Unfortunately my channel is not big enough yet to ask companies for review units nor big enough to start a patreon to fund videos haha, everything I have is paid for out of pocket
If you're like me and find you often leave phone in another room and thus don't have a timer, you could just buy a little magnetic timer to stick on the coffee machine and you'll still be saving a lot compared to the acaia!
I've got a clock on the wall with a second hand. Absolutely zero fuss, starts and stops exactly when you need it and totally hands free!