The Power of Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut (北勝蔡李佛) in MMA and Street Fighting
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2018
- In traditional chinese Kung Fu there is a style, called “the style of fighters”, which became famous for its effectiveness in combat.
Thanks to the ancient techniques and applications, today it is still considered the most effective combat system, even when compared to modern ones.
This style is called Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut. It is an aggressive, instinctive, highly sophisticated, complete and effective fighting system.
Sifu Gianni de Nittis is the fourth generation of Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut and he is internationally considered as one of the most expert Choy Lay Fut Masters in fighting techniques and applications.
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As a Wing Chun practitioner many years ago (and Kyokushin karate before that), we were taught that the shortest distance from A to B was *always* a straight line but if any martial art seems based on what actually happens on the street, it has to be somewhere between CLF and BJJ for mine. Wild haymakers followed by an attempt to take the other guy to the ground may seem 'school yard' but we're kidding ourselves if we think adults dont resort to exactly the same approach. I'm not going to get into the usual flame war over style A vs style B, and I firmly believe that most of those Hong Kong grudge fights of legend came down to who came out of the gate most aggressively (and who could withstand that aggression), but damn this looks effective against the 'swing and pray' thugs that walk our streets and lurk in every bar I've ever been in. Ironic that some in Chinese martial arts seem to look down on southern styles as too aggressive (!) - white crane, CLF, WC and Hung Gar spring to mind - but do they really expect fighting to be anything else ??
The movements in WC are what's throwing me off learning it TBH. I have a choice between CLF and WC where I live so hard to choose just one 😂
@@lincolnbolden588 learn both, then learn other martial art too.
Neither are strong on kicks. TKD can cover that. - I would suggest you do as I did, and practice TKD for 1-2 years, then go to both WC and Choy Lai Fut. - If you round yourelf out like that, you'll feel as formidable as a battleship.
Choy li fut is an amazing fighting style I start studying Tibetan lama kung fu in chinatown chicago in 1973under Grand master wai lun chois great video much respect Sifu Sifu jack Tibetan lama kung fu jkd kali
My Sifu teaches wing chun, hung gar and choy lee fut (and mixes in a little bit of jiujitsu so his classes cover short, medium and long range as well as ground-work). He always used to regale us with stories of his competion days in the 70's and 80's. There was always a load of St John's ambulance crews at the events and 80% of them were treating the opponents of the choy lee fut practitioners. Devastating style and as fast as any short-range style if you get your footwork right.
FunkyFyreMunky you sound like you go to the same club as me!!!! 😂😂😂😂
Same happens in Hong Kong.
Choy li fut is effective as it has many swinging blows. In a real fight, swinging blows are more natural to deliver and harder to defend against. Wing chun is just straight blows within a restricted range, just keep a safe distance and u will be good. I tried using tae kwon do against wing chun. True enough most of them are not experienced in defence against kicks. I would be very wary against choy li fut because they are very good in long range and take downs.
Pretty oustanding...
It's nice that your sifu teaches multiple styles of Chinese martial arts. A few that I've met refuses to learn or incorporate different styles together.
Interesting. Some of these fighters are masters of Choy Lee Fut without even knowing that they are. You should tell them.
I'm sorry, but if you don't understand the meaning of the video ... it's your problem! Thx
@@DeNittisKungFu0 It was you who said they were doing Choy Lee Fut, not me... so...
I repeat, if you have not understood the meaning of the video ... unfortunately it is your problem..sometimes you should go beyond images and understand the meaning of things. However it is not a problem, I will notify the fighters in the video ..no problem
since you're not a CLF student, we don't expect you to understand what he means. but everything you see in the ring for stand up, CLF has it, and more.
Ha, ha, ha, you're a king,ha ha!!!!!!
What does the fight footage have to do with this guy?
Nothing
I always tried to defend traditional martial arts while also believing in MMA's use of proving application. Many styles use similar techniques, but it doesn't take away from the fact that these techniques are used in actual combat. You just can't expect people to use the "super perfect form" when in a stressful situation.
No actual Shaolin master will ever say you must have super perfect form, only MacDojo's and the misinformed say that.
Use MMA style in a street fight with multiple attackers and/or weapons, and get your a$$ handed to you. There is no ref, there are no rules, and every real fight has weapons. While I see MMA practitioners rolling around on the floor for 5 minutes, I can only think about how many times they would be kicked, slashed and stomped by that guys buddies.
I cringe when I hear people say the rear naked choke hold is king, ignoring the extremely complex move of biting off pieces of meat and groin smashing.
I also can't stand people calling it fighting, when it is only a sport, in fighting, this is all allowed:
Grabbing the fence
Holding opponent’s shorts or gloves
Head-butting
Biting or spitting at an opponent
Hair pulling
Fish-hooking
Intentionally placing a finger into any orifice, or into any cut or laceration of an opponent
Eye gouging of any kind
Groin attacks
Downward pointing of elbow strikes (see 12-6 elbow)
Small joint manipulation
Strikes to the spine or back of the head or anything behind the ears (see Rabbit punch)
Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
Fingers outstretched towards opponent's face/eyes
Clawing, pinching, twisting the flesh
Kicking and knee-striking the head of a grounded opponent (see Soccer kick)
Stomping an opponent on the ground
Swearing or offensive language in the cage (although nobody ever received deductions or disqualifications in fights)
Any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to opponent
Attacking an opponent during a break
Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee
Timidity (avoiding contact, consistent dropping of mouthpiece, or faking an injury)
Throwing opponent out of the ring/fighting area
Interference from a mixed martial artist's cornerman
Flagrant disregard of the referee’s instructions
Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his or her head or neck (see Piledriver)
Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat
Haymakers, windmills, 8 form… call them whatever you’d like. CLF perfected the technique. Like a phantom… you never see it coming.
It's a mix martial art of family Choi,
family Lee and family Fut, so that
it's called Choi Lee Fut which is a
most devastating martial art.
for me hung gar is most devastating style
hung gar and CLF are not different other than the types of energy used and combat concepts. the hands are the same
if someone told you that is a shaolin martial art, i suggest you go slap them in the face for lying to you. anyone who knows about martial arts knows what you just showed is filipino or indonesian arts. nothing to do with shaolin what so ever.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 It's obviously a mixed art, the knife/stick work comes from Philippino Arnis/Ecrima, he trains on a wing chun wooden dummy and performs chi sao techniques and chain punches. I know nothing about shaolin kung fu, in the description he claims he is also a shaolin monk. I don't know if his claims are true, but he surely seems well trained.
Most practical kung fu ever seen
Wong Ping Keung
You should know Baji quan another great Chinese martial art which I’m learning.
Also Sanda
why people thing kung fu as not effective is because they know only wing chun.
But kung fu is a big family and some sons of it perform really well even in ring.
Buk Sing Choy Li Fut and other Choy Li Fut styles are definitely one of them.
Its practical cuz they actually use real time sparring in their training. Im sure if other systems did thatb they would be practical
Moreover, many people even those who practice kung fu often have fake beliefs over these traditional styles,
historically speaking our ancestors learn these styles for self-defense especially
to deal with the consecutive knife attacks in short range.
Thats why some styles like wing chun focus extensively on Chi Sau, a kind of hand sensitive training to control your opponents hand.
For example, in Tai Chi, according to the tutor, its moves and fighting tactics is in fact best explained and understood in terms of knife defense. Here is the video link:
ruclips.net/video/M7x6SvMDrtc/видео.html
If you trust what he says than basically traditional fight art, especailly the bare-hand part is for weapon fights, thats why you can hardly find them on stages. It is because in past years our ancestors do martial arts to save their lives, resolves disputes on land, water sources. And weapon use is definitely a part of it.
Another clip suggesting kung fu's use on knife defense:
ruclips.net/video/wwPHa4rQjLk/видео.html
It is unwise to simply test and compare TMA on stages and rings. Martial art is more than that.
So basically a bunch of hay makers.
YES IT IS NO ONE DIDNT SAY IT WASN'T. This is why its important for you keyboard idiots to educate yourself before typing BS. Choy lee fut is a technical and correct way of how to use the haymaker.
Nope
Haymakers,elbows and kicks,knees with joint manipulation. It’s a good combat style. Check shuai jiao and baji. Those three kung fu styles together is the kung fu that shines in sanda
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
God, there is no pleasing you idiots. First you say that Kung Fu is useless because it’s too complicated, but when there is video footage showing that it has the EXACT same techniques as MMA you complain that it only has a couple of moves like haymakers.
Idiocy at its finest.
Buk Sing Choy Lee Fut was My first Kung Fu style I was taught back in the 70's by my godfather Leo Fong who was Cantonnese Chinese and a Sifu in Buk Sing - Choy Lee Fut, Bruce Lee once said that Buk Sing Choy Lee Fut was the only Kung Fu style that was hard for him to defend against
Right
Who did leo fong learn buk sing choy lee fut from in the 70's? the ONLY choy lee fut in the united states was Lau Bun's Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut
Hung Sing Kwoon USA Sifu Leo T Fong's Sifu was Lau Bun he was a Sifu in Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut five Animal Style Choy Lee Fut snd Buk Sing Choy Lee Fut and Sil lum Kune Fa
Francis Allen do you have a reference for the Bruce Lee quote. That’s awesome
Sifu Leo Fong was also the Master to my Father's Teacher =D
Sau choi can be deadly.
sau choy will and have broken necks in the past
is it the same sau choy technique like in hung gar?
Same sow choy different energy types.
@@Supermomo2007 two system share many similarities and both have hooks.
As far as I love mr. Nittis' speed, skill and power, I have to admit that I was expecting more from this video than a montage of every hook punch ever thrown. It is not, after all, the style that matters (as this video proves) but the amount and quality of training that makes proper fight sport athletes. Where were the awesome CLF guys fighting that they didn't make it to the video?
Ville-Pekka Turpeinen You made a good point. It's ok to show how a particular technique is valuable, even if it is of another style, but the Videographer is almost trying to take credit for the success of the fighters shown in the video. Choy Lee Fut has lots to brag about from other fights, and should use examples of those things, not the fights in this video.
I think you made a mistake here Ville-Pekka Turpeinen. The person who made this video is simply pointing out that the very same techniques we see in MMA today have been a part of Choy Lee Fut since its inception back in 1836. He wasn't talking about fighters. He was mentioning the techniques. See, your average CLF person is not thirsty for fame, titles, or popularity. We just want to train our style, kick ass when it needs to happen, and then go back to training. If you were to do some research, CLF has been in the ring many times around the world. We also fight san shou/san da. China's King of San Da trains in Choy lee fut. so, just sit back and watch the video. enjoy it or not is up to you. but i clearly see that he's just pointing out that what you see in MMA today, we've been doing long before MMA existed. IN FACT, Choy - Lee - Fut IS one of the original MIXED MARTIAL ARTS because it's a combination of three styles ie Choy Gar, Lee Gar, and Fut Gar systems. hopefully i have cleared up your confusion.
Alexander Higgins
Alexander Higgins No sir. you're incorrect on your assessment. as i mentioned below, "The person who made this video is simply pointing out that the very same techniques we see in MMA today have been a part of Choy Lee Fut since its inception back in 1836" nothing more. nothing less. it's not open to interpretation. As a CLF teacher and friend to the guy who made this video, i know what his point was. hopefully that clears it up for you as well.
I actually learned quite a bit with the examples given in this video. You see, shooting a straight arm punch like that isn’t what is conventionally trained in boxing. Perhaps it’s what happens when your opponent moves away but you still want that punch to land because the lowered guard is very much still there. I realized the high pertinence of CLF’s systematized “haymakers” and hammer fists in today’s combat arts. It’s time to dust off my old CLF training.
Hung Sing Kwoon USA
Oh and I’m subscribing to you! I like the way you prove your point.
Principle and applied theory always prevails
Some may argue whether it’s boxing/ MMA/ Muay-Thai / Kung-fu ...
When it comes to combat / real fight/ competition in the ring
The form doesn’t matter , your practice does
Abso-fucking-lutely. There’s a reason why Chinese people used an umbrella word that doesn’t even necessarily mean fighting to describe all of our martial arts. Because fighting... is just fucking fighting.
could not have said this better...that's it! forms don't matter, it's how you practice and apply those concepts
Is there a more in depth technique video you guys have on this
those moves anyway sifu are not only from Choy Lay Fut
there is boxing, kickboxing, and muay thai too
legionario italiano, that's the point he is making by showing the same moves being used across many fighting systems. He's describing the effectiveness of the technique.
@@tednpam3979 not really
Yeet Man yes really dumbass
The point is how this chinese art from nineteenth century can works in a real combat
It's quite awesome how they don't lose balance and coordination despite looking like they are just throwing everything behind the punch.
Are CLF people cool with light sparring, or if I go to a school as a practitioner of a different martial art they 'll pound me full force?
Can I know more about the claim to fame sources of clf. Like any leitai like tournaments? Are there any incidences of it defeating any Northern CMA?
Okay, do you know what Sanda is? I’d say like all of the boxing in Sanda is just repackaged CLF.
Lol mma fanboys crying in the comments by calling them "haymakers"
That first technique is really deceptive. It appears telegraphed, but it's attacking at an angle outside the scope of awareness of the opponent. So most people will struggle to anticipate it and it'll catch them by surprise.
People who say traditional martial arts don't work do not know why they do not work. I'm sorry mma is a modern thing and it's great but if you can't back up your claim it's empty words. Maybe some styles are for show like wushu and are not as practicle but their is good kung fu and to understand it you have to experience it.
It would help if you had an influx of Kung Fu fighters in mainstream MMA to convince people otherwise. Instead the closest you have at the moment are Sanda practitioners and someone like Roy Nelson who really pays lip service to his Kung Fu background rather than actively apply it in the cage.
@@SaftonYT mainstream MMA is who wants to compete, and who they want in, and want to promote, etc. It'll be pretty hard to get into the many organizations without being associated in certain schools who know promotors, and its always kickboxing, wrestly, jujutsu, etc gyms.
Wushu, while appearing to be flashy as if for demo purposes only, is actually extremely effective. I've witnessed it.
you cant put kung fu in the cage.
i have been bracticing this style of kung fu since i was 12 and i most of the stuff we learn we were not even allowed to practice on humans in a real spar match.
many moves are meant to cripple or kill your apponent.
same goes for other traditional martial arts.
like jiu jitsu. in its original form it was soo lithal that it had no competitions or any belt ranks.
it was a pure form of defense in kill or be killed moments. and it was mostly break or dislocate bones and deliver deadly blows to weak bodyparts like the neck or the eyes.
this same concept goes for wing chun. excep wing chun is such a complicated art that it is impossible to make use of it if you havent trained it to perfection.
and if you do, its basically a art to become a killing machine. it is meant as a form of attack and defense in one and the way you attack is with fast and overwhelming. unfortunately, people stick too much to the old concepts. that is something you can not do when learning wing chun. you should adapt. so if people adapted to the way people fight these days and came up with a way to deffende vs their attacks, wing chun could be very usefull.
Boxing is still more effective
Where can you find good Choy li fut practictioner ?
They are usually found in traditional lineage schools
0:33 omg that's Cung Le :)))))
Yeah, Kung Lee is not a style guy.. Read his bio ,and he certainly didn't practice choy Lee fut
@@gretashapiro4118 Cung le did practice vovinam. There's choy lee fut and other kungfu styles within vovinam's fighting system. If a man knocks out an opponent with a capeoira kick. But he never took capeoira, this means it wasn't a capeoira kick? Open your mind.
@@gretashapiro4118 Kung Lee knows CLF is the best chinese martial art for fights b
Dude those are all well documented lead hook gazelle punches from western boxing. Cung Le was maybe your ownly possible Kung fu connection due to his Sanshou background. Even thats a major stretch. This video is extremely misleading and the music sucks. And yes they've been throwing this style punch in boxing matches going back to the 1930s. So CLF hit on the same movement pattern a few hundred years go, good for it. But in no way were the fighters in this video CLF practitioners other than the KF teacher. There's only so many ways to move the body and you can't copyright movement patterns bound to physiology...except maybe the macarena??
i personally think the video was more demonstrating choy lay fut principles rather than fighters who specifically trained in choy lay fut. You can categorize almost every throw in just about any grappling system using judo terminology for instance, however that doesnt mean those grapplers used judo in their fighting.
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
Well put together video emphasising especially a lot of the hand strikes from Choy Li Fut and other Kung Fu systems which use similar strikes. I know this took a while to put togeher, as it reminds me a bit of the Kung Fu in UFC video I did a few years back, and that one took ages to complete, in that one I showed a few hand strikes like the spinning backfist, but a large portion of what I showed was kicks and a few take downs... thanks for creating this. :)
Those were boxing punches, not Kung Fu hand strikes. Choy Li Fut punches would never be effective in MMA because they're so wide.
@@cet4640 form is not directly equal to fights, in training it looks wide but in real fight its move is smaller. think of it when you train boxing your first lesson is reaching your arm as long as you could but it doesnt mean you have to always punch that far. You adjust depends on direction, range and power. Similar to Choy Li Fut and other wide stance kung fu.
I have to disagree with these comparisons ,, for example .i see a fast fluid movement kung fu .. al the mma Guys used power and alot of muscle..i see haymakers and right hooks from mma here .. and the kung fu is totally different. I like this kung fu form but dont see why even compare it .
I have been struggling to understand the concept of such wild haymakers. What was that form being demonstrated? That seems helpful.
I have often heard statement buy good artists from Wing Chun and Choy le fut practitioners. The statement goes: Wing Chun is punching bag for Choy le fut.
Or that Choy le fut is punching bag for Wing Chun. However both styles are now evolving. Nothing is ever stagnant. If it is then it dies. How unfortunate that many Kung Fu styles in Communist China have fake martial arts Masters among the real ones now. It's ruining martial arts. Thankyou for putting up the movie.
Awesome. We’re gonna get to see some windmill punching. #choyleefut rules. 🐉㊙️🙏
Wow!! Never realized how MMA had this type of Kung Fu in it..badass!
This didn't say anything about Kung Fu in mma.
It doesn't they appear to be trying to claim common kick boxing and boxing punches like the overhand right and the hook as their own which is bonkers
@@Londonmartialarts Finally someone with some brain here. This video seems like a huge scam. Some moves were either a simple cross which resulted in k.o. and the author still claims it was a specialized clf move.
@@ShinjiCarlos they didn't claim it was CLF it just show the similarity, and they have that technique in their style
@@Londonmartialarts isnt all martial arts just that? Kicks and punches?
Never heard of this martial art before. Looks to highly effective...great video
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THX
+Steven Robertson Bruce Lee even quoted Choy Lay Fut as only kung fustyle that didn't lost to thai boxing.
there are so many styles of kung fu, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_martial_arts
yeah, but they were talking about Choy Lee Fut. not other styles
why is not Chan Heung at the masters generations tree
At 1:40. Holy crap lol
Longobardi Lounge legend has it, he still sleeps today
Nice job sifu. I like the compilation.
THX
Basiclly hooks and overhands
What the hell ever. The point is, Kung Fu has practicality too
That's not all u learn
are those low leg kicks, those style of elbows, and the Superman punch really part of traditional CLF?
the elbows are, but the superman punch is more part of modern CLF now. Choy Lee Fut's elbow and knee game is very similar to that of Muay Boran.
Choy lay fut devasting
1:37 I personally like the GUA CHOY thunder from the mountain. The PAK SAO and the PEI SAO. 😉☮️
2:46 in WING CHUN. We have the CHOW KUEN. Looked like that guy used it on JOSH KOSCHECK
You mean those guys in the video studied choi lee fut?
Or just a random guy can pracise the move of choi lee fut?
I think is to show the effectiviness of this art.
That was awesome
Pudzianowski - Real Kung Fu master, I swear 😂
Black sash in Test Fu
Is Buk Sing better then Hung Sing as far as learning faster and fewer forms in concerned?
no!
Superman Punch ✊
Hahaha 🤣
This video is trying to mislead viewers. The MMA fighters in the video are not using Choy Li Fut, but boxing. The Asian guy Cung Le, practices Sanshou, which uses boxing/Muay Thai type of punches. Even those shown in the street fights used boxing. And Anderson Silva never practiced Choy Li Fut.
He's just showing how an ancient art it's similar to modern day fighting meaning this art form was involved before its time
That doesn't explain why CLF has the same techniques as you call boxing and all that. CLF is a traditional system with very practical techniques. This video is meant to say what you see in the ring, is also found in the CLF style in regards to stand up combat.
Beautiful.
Beautyfull!!!
Powerful.
Lmao what? I learned how to throw a haymaker at recess in elementary school
you never LEARNED how to throw a haymaker, you just swung wildly and prayed something landed. we dont pray. we know how to use it at an advanced level compared to your school yard fights.
Fking hell man I can learn this overhand hook in half of an hour
So why the fk man I need to stick with CLF
there is way more to this strike than you know. but a true CLF disciple know's the entire worth of this strike. EVERYONE says they can do something overnight and realize the fool themselves every time
So any punch ,elbow or kick is choy lee lol
Sure. Nearly all striking arts have them. Old bare handed English boxing/fighting had the same. It's just as much Choy Li fut as it is Muy Thai, Karate, MMA. Theres not a whole lot in the striking art world that's unique. Even Super man strikes are a signature move in Buk Sing Choy Li Fut as are spinning back fists (Tho spinning back fists are also in Muy Thai). If it works, you'll find many unrelated arts will have that same technique
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
You pretty much just described every martial art in existence.
where i come from its called a fucking king hit
People say they "never" saw kung fu or Chinese martial arts in MMA, out of sheer tantrum and prejudice. we had Weili Zhang, Song Yadong himself, No One CHAMPIONSHIP, had several former world champions from the Wushu Lakai team in the Philippines, but people forget that even Muay Thai is not pure, boxing was adapted to obtain rules in the Ring ( former Muay Boran or Pradal Serey) Kickboxing which is a Japanese style, adapting Muay Thai with Karate, the very styles of Japanese martial arts such as Karate Shorin (Shaolin) Ryu and kempo, had a certain Chinese influence. so... yes there is, chinese martial arts or kung fu in MMA.
Eae man
Oh no. This is Boxing, Muay thai and Karate not Choy li fut
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
No lmao
The human body can only move so many ways. A punch is a punch and a kick is a kick no matter where you go.
these mfk are street fighting but not Choy Lay fut at all
Nah, it's more like wide hook or angle straight punch.
Did this guy start in 1985-6 Perth Western Australia under Buk Sing CLF.
Gday James, do you recommend any good clf schools in perth ?
no, he is from italy. @@michaelnicholson182
is the video trying to say that all these people throwing haymakers are choy Lee foot practitioners?
no. he's just saying that what CLF has had for almost 200 years is also seen in MMA matches.
Why is Anderson Silva on here as appearing to be part of Chou lay fut?
0:43 Cung Le just throw an overhand, he never did Choy Li Fut :))
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies. no one ever said Cung Le did anything of the sort.
I am very interested to see how wing chun defend these kind of attacks using their so called "sticking hands"
wing chun always loses.
It's just...hooks
This style is really about hooking punches. It has never gained fame because against someone who knows what they're doing and who's keeping their hands up and punching straight, it is ineffective. Look at boxing. straight punch will always win over a hooking one. Good style to know though
Ermac from mortal Kombat fights with that style
Roy Nelson uses it
I learned the same Style
Tam 3
Grandmaster Lau k.Tong
#viperjkd “We support you.” ㊙️
Is this a lion fightin style?
tiger killing style
dude that's called a haymaker it's not some ancient chinese secret lol
well, that HAYMAKER has been scientifically taught in Choy Lee Fut for hundreds of years. not ancient, but older than MMA.
Only people that know nothing about Chinese martial arts claim some secret knowledge.
The ones that actually practice it know that it’s actually really simple.
Looks like throwing a combination of hay makers
you may call it a haymaker. for us, it's NOT a haymaker. It's a SOW CHOY. why is it called such? It's the chinese language. they are very deadly as you see in the video
Because its long rangy?!. If you can time it perfectly its prettymuch the same as a hook or cross
Hay Maker + Murder = Choy Li Fut
Isnt choy spoed to be about wrist locks .so why are they using gloves. Soon as u put gloves on. It becomes kickboxing
don't ask silly questions. you have no idea what Choy Lee Fut is all about.
People can dab while kicking bootie?
Only reason I disliked this video is because the highlights are not demonstrating actual Choy Li Fit Practicioners...it's just showing guys throwing long hooks and overhands...if you wanna compare the similarities fine but let's not pretend like these guys are kung Fu Practicioners 🙄....please show a highlight video of actual Choy Li Fut Practicioners effectively using the techniques of the art in MMA/Kickboxing etc...or how else can you expect anyone to take you seriously
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
In my hood we call such crap a HAYMAKER!
CLF doesn't care what you called it.
好功夫
Crappy background music. Bad choice. Sorry.
elcharrocibernetiko El calvo no puede ser bueno en todo pues hermano 😂😅
好视频。
这不是CLF
no. it's buk sing CLF
Let's stop pretending these MMA guy similarities have the style. It's like roughly the same without flow. And they have to recover their body weight and sloppy ambitions.
That is what I noticed not sticking to the style. The ambitious commitment to combat and the off center to muscle fibers. Always throwing the body weight and recover it. Like a segmentation.
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
😍💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
so if i swing my arms around I'm doing Choy Lay Fut! Yay!
Bob Bob Go fight a good Buk Sing fighter then smart ass. Get your ass knocked out.
sao choy the very powerful technique
Mmmm🧐. You claim the overhand .. ok..
@@mrlemons3318 That "overhand" is what is called the Sow Choy in the CLF system which has been from the very beginning and is much cleaner and fluid than a overhand. Maybe not claiming it, but a technique that has been effective and a staple of the system =D
You can swing your arms and it can’t even break wet paper without the proper body mechanics. CLF people turned the overhand strike aka haymaker into an art, with strong stance and torque along with setups
Just another quick comment re WC / CLF (or any other traditional Chinese martial art) defeating a seasoned Muay Thai fighter in the ring - lets dispense with that fantasy right now. The instant you step into that ring (or the Octagon), you've handed your opponent a massive advantage. He knows exactly what you can and cant do, and he has spent a lifetime preparing himself for whatever you have to dish out, to the point where many Muay Thai fighters in Thailand actually *smile* when you land a decent shot on them. Would it be any different outside a bar at 2am ? Probably not, but you're unlikely to find a professional MT fighter with any sort of record in that environment. Connor McGregor and a few other UFC fighters may revel in being able to intimidate people on the street, but generally speaking anyone who is training hard 6-8 hours a day has little interest in beating your brains out because you looked at his girlfriend. IMO, kung fu in southern China was designed to give smaller men (and the vast majority WERE men) a shot at being able to defend themselves - the usual mythology mentions 'bandits and brigands' but it could just as likely have been the village standover man. WC legend Wong Shun Leung, forced to take all manner of odd jobs to survive, reportedly fought kitchen staff armed with knives and whatever else they could find - hardly the 'bandits and brigands' of popular retelling but I doubt that he spent too much time reflecting on that when he was fighting for his life.
If you are in any way serious about getting into a ring - any ring - for God's sake find a coach in that SPORT and start preparing yourself to absorb at least as much pain as you dispense. Good luck.
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Haha it looks like a shit boxer that flails his other arm around when throwing his hooks.
Exactly what I thought lol
Looks interesting but none of the examples shown are actually that style it's just the common or garden overhand right or left that has a vague resemblance to one technique you guys do.
I'd bet none of the people in your comp have even heard of your style so it's quite disingenuous to claim that they are using it
I don’t think that’s what the video claims. I think it’s just a comparison video.
Although I admit it looks very effective, I can't say I like the outright promotion of violence. One scene shows 2 people in real life fighting, one gets punched out and obviously hits his head on the concrete which can kill someone. Yes I love CMA but in a spirit of peace and love, and not to get lawsuits or end up in jail using excessive force (unless fighting for one's life!!). Comments meant in a good way, and I am interested in Cai Li Fo, although I don't have any schools near me.
haymaker
yea sure. it;s a haymaker to you in the year 2023. To the style of Choy Lee Fut, haymakers are the swinging of elephants trunks. so, the fact that you may know it in modern times as a haymaker doesn't change the FACT that in CLF it's NOT what WE call them.
these ae not, 'choy lay fut' clips for the most parts, just mma fighters doing boxing moves. Good try though.
Doesn’t seem like the intention was to claim that these fighters are CLF practitioners. But if it was, then I’m with you 😁
Co tu robi Pudzian xxdd
It's just an overhand right ... common to English Pugilism for centuries.
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
I don’t think that anyone is claiming otherwise.
Ahi no hay tecnicas
this is utter bollock lol using footage of Mariusz Pudzianowski that has never done any of this CLF? what ever it's called, he's a strong man with karate and bbj training lol, and a bunch of other fighters that have probably never heard of this cobblers.
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
Realistically speaking, every fighting style has similarities between the two. So the only thing you can do, and for the sake of Martial Arts in general, is reconcile theological disparities (Yes, that's a Sherlock Holmes Reference). You really can't say that CLF originates from these styles of combat because their origin's are strictly through fundamental attribution error's and 'accidents' for lack of a better word. You can say that the applications between CLF and these styles are similar and can quite possibly be used the same way, but the 'politics' of what they truly are to the masses is only a problem to them alone. It's like getting to the bottom of the pronunciations of Tomato, Potato, and Sauna. I won't be surprised that everyone hasn't went on a spell about who had the bow and arrow first, in the end though, does it matter? I'm actually pretty surprised that nobody hasn't gone on a spell about who had the bow and arrow first though. XD
What ?
Any of these guys trained in Fut?
Attributing these fights with FUT?
That is pretty low,pretty bad,,,,,unless of course some one of them has trained in Fut?
Its dishonorable to insinuate a lie,if its a lie....
The art is great and powerful,and would stand on its own...
Any fight breaks down to slug fest,rasslin,and maybe a few kicks
Maybe one in 10,000 could make a technique look like some practiced exact technique,,,
Score,and get out of there,,,
The goal is to transcend the form,dissolve the form,????????
what the heck are you trying to say? LMAO
Ron Tate
Oh no, not to worry Mr. Ron. No attributing to Fut, just similar to Fut. Video says that Fut could do good in the ring and street. That is all.
@@DingoIguana what is FUT? we're talking about Choy Lee Fut, so why did you diminish us to something called FUT?
That's just an overhand punch!!!Why give it a fancy name and why does it have to be attributed to choy li fut???Choy li fut is great for fitness and a development in power through fixed diverse movements But come on guys !!!You all didn't invent these techniques!!!They've been around for centuries!!!Fighting is fighting no matter where it's from or what name you give it!!!If it's done right who cares what technique it is or by whom is doing it!!!A kick is a kick a punch is a punch what matters is the intensity and intent and the killer instinct of the individual!!!Put that together with some good conditioning and precision and you've got a good fighter!!!
The over hand punch you are talking about has been the bread and butter of the Choy lee Fut style since its creation. just because you call it an over hand strike doesn't negate CLF's usage of Sau Choy which means "Sweeping Fist" in the Chinese language. CLF's been using it since 1836. It is found in our forms and our fighting. So, NO. we didn't invent them. They existed long before the 1800's in china. No one lays claim to it being exclusive to CLF. It's also found in Northern styles of Kung Fu. What WE are saying is compared to other kung fu styles, CLF is a purely combative system with practical yet EFFECTIVE techniques. CLF is one of the BEST TRADITIONAL styles for combat. We're the only style to go to Thailan and defeat thai boxers with our kung fu. what YOU call a hammer fist, WE call a PEk Choy. What you call an upper cut, WE call a Pow Choy. why?? Because that is CHINESE LANGUAGE bro. We practice CHINESE kung fu and we use CHINESE language as it was taught to us. and YES, we are one of the ORIGINAL MIXED MARTIAL ARTS because Choy Lee Fut is comprised of 3 different styles blended into ONE. therefore a TRUE MIXED MARTIAL ART.
And which cultured and advanced countries were around longer? Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Indian. These cultures had military strategies and fighting techniques, while the rest of the world was still wearing raw animal skins. Sure...we in the West might know that punch as an overhand punch....but those early cultures had their own name to it.
Chris Vargas
to you, it's an overhand punch. To the Choy Lee Fut system that was founded in 1836 labled it as a Sweeping Punch aka Sow Choy. Choy Lee Fut is much much much older than MMA so MMA doesn't get to claim this as theirs alone. why give it a fancy name? it's the Chinese language man. Imagine the chinese saying "why are they calling this sow choy an over hand punch?" LMAO. Yes CLF is great for all of that. But as a TRADITIONAL KUNG FU SYSTEM in light of todays MMA craze, CLF is one of the only systems left that can actually fight effectively. like the other people on this video, YOU are failing to understand that this video is basically saying what you see in MMA today is what we've been doing since the early 1800's. nothing more nothing less.
So if I pinch your ear or fishhook your cheekbone does that mean I'm a brawler or a technician???I think you all are misunderstanding my point.Fighting to me isn't hitting as any fool can hit.To me fighting is control over an aggressive engagement.And even perhaps in the mist of the altercation making the other guy miss.I think the problem is that people wanna separate things and be right all the time about this or that.I'm not a Bruce lee worshipper or anything but even he said about his jkd.To not fuss over it I believe he was talking about labels.Ok so if its Chinese its clf or wc or mantis etc.In Thai its probably whatever name and French or savate another name.If someone hits you doesn't matter where they're from or what language they speak or who has done "MMA" first .What matters is that you got your bell rung and if you wake up from it.None of this ancient martial arts stuff is gonna matter.
I believe rocky marciano made this quote once I could be wrong but it holds truth.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"...
I say to fear the man not the weapon so Idk you guys seem to know way more than me so arms shrugged...
you don't traing in CHINESE martial arts. or you'd know that since the chinese didn't speak english, they will term the techniques based upon their own language. and what you may call a haymaker is called "SOW CHOY" in chinese. Choy Lee Fut kung fu is a fighting system. and the same way we can get hit in the mouth, so can you but kung fu techniques. like i said, you're not a chinese martial artist or you'd know there is more to kung fu than just fighting. only DUMMIES are so closed minded to thinking martial arts is just about combat. there is so much more to kung fu that you just don't comprehend.
Its clearly wrong to say these mma ko s are the the same as kung fu .., mma uses power its not fluid ..i love kung fu
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
I think you could guarantee non of these mma clips had anyone that trained in clf, yes there is some similarities in what you see but most of what you see in ufc/ mma is nothing more than glorified street thuggery... a way for some yankee who decided to make money from something, a way fpr people who couldnt box to make money
so a basic overhand? lol
What you fail to realize is he is saying what you see in MMA and the UFC, already exists in the Choy Lee Fut system and that not all kung fu is for pansies.
It’s literally just counter punching, faints, and haymakers nothing else
tmwasted yes sir!!!!
And what is wrong with that?