Was just about to come and post this. Every number I presumed would be then next. Hindley/Brady could arguably have been #1 The west's should have been much higher too
Exactly, probably the two most despised and despicable bags of shite in British history, only James Bulger's killers come close, no there's two that the gene pool wouldn't miss.
How can they compile a list like that without including Myra Hindley and Ian Brady who killed at least 5 children in horrific ways, they even tape recorded one of their murders. Hindley became Britain's most hated woman right up until her death 2002
I agree the violence and lack of remorse from them (I do not believe for a second Hindley's claims of remorse or she would have given the body locations) should have put them close to the top. They were evil through and through.
The thing is, whilst I agree they could easily take a spot on this list, you could extend this list to 100+ people all contending for the top 10 shitbags.
Totally agree with you my friend, but to be honest I do not think that Hindley died in prison they were considering to release her but with the uproar from the public nothing happened,then the next thing she had died of a heart attack my view she's out in the general public.
@@jonjonas-om3ws Although plausible that she is still alive, given her past of consistent medical issues throughout her time in prison, making it to 81 which she would be now would be extremely unlikely. Also her place of death being in an actual NHS hospital rather than in prison still, making it harder (but not impossible) to cover up, I think she is dead. Even if she was released with a new identity, very unlikely she is still alive today.
A pair that are missing from that list are two 10yr olds, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson, the murderers of 2yr old James Bulger. Venables and Thompson adbucted Bulger from a shopping centre, dropped him on his head, joked about pushing Bulger into a nearby canal, and led Bulger to a railway line. When at the railway line, Venables and Thompson set about kicking, stamping on, and throwing sticks and stones at Bulger. The pair finally dropped a 10kg railway fishplate (metal plate used to connect two railway lines) on Bulger. The pathologist working on the crime stated that Bulger suffered so many injuries that none could be identified as being the fatal blow. Bulger had 42 injuries in total. Thompson and Venables laid the body of James Bulger across the railway tracks and weighted his head down with rubble, hoping that a train would hit him and that his death would be ruled as an accident. The body of James Bulger, severed due to a train cutting him in half, was discovered two days later by a group of children. There's a lot more that Venables and Thompson inflicted on James that I can't bring myself to repeat here.
They even cut his dick off and not too long ago 2 girls did something similar to a little girl that was about the same age as this boy it was horrifying and its one crime I will never forget
Absolutely disgusting what they did. Every time I hear it I feel so sorry for the mother for them split seconds when they were able to lead him away from her. I have kids of my own and can't begin to imagine what she went through or is still going through. Specially since they have been given new names and released. One has since been found with child porn and sent back to prison more than once I believe. They should have done to them what they did to James
Charles Bronson isnt as scary as some names missed out in this. Branson was denied parole and is currently still serving time. In my life time (35 years) Shipman and Ian Huntley are the two names I will never forget
The top 10 list skimmed over the details of the particularly gory murders, and that Hindley and Brady weren't on the list was insane. I'm not blaming Jt and Anna, they are just reacting to other peoples work. I love their dog sleepng behind them, so cute.
There's a woman on trial at the moment, accused of murdering babies while working in the hospital. Lucy Letby. And a male breast cancer surgeon, Ian Paterson, he has been jailed for carrying out needless operations, he disfigured many people for no reason. It's terrifying to think that these people are out there and we trust them with our lives.
@@kieranolafferty523 Sounds like Lucy Letby has a crippling and destructive case of OCD every time I read about her. She's obviously insane, who in their right mind would murder anyone unless they were unstable
I live on the road Lucy Letby lived on and it just makes me feel really uncomfortable. 🙈🙈 Those poor babies. And I can't imagine what their parents must have gone through and are still going through. 🥺🥺
@madyottoyotto3055 no not a chance but still he's never killed raped anyone so I think he needs a chance But then again he's going be so Institutionalised I don't think he would cope
I was born in 1967. I just about remember one of my great grandmothers still being alive. What blows my mind is that she would have a girl of about 10 years old when the Jack the Ripper murders took place about a mile from where she lived.
Wow that's amazing. I hope you write all this down for your future ancestors? Can you imagine being given a notebook with all your family history in it, what a coveted possession it would be
I was born in 1967 and I lived near Headingly, where one of the girls was found. Yes, we all felt very afraid, once the Ripper started killing women who weren't prostitutes. It was a very, very weird and scary time. On the one hand we were afraid of the Ripper at home, and on the other we were afraid of IRA bombs in town centres! And on top of all that, we were afraid of the threat of nuclear war too. As I say, weird times!
It's curious that they chose to include Bronson, who they admitted had never killed anybody, and yet didn't include the Moors Murderers, whose odious crimes and the manner in which they continued to torment the mother of Keith Bennett (whose body remains undiscovered to this day) by refusing to say where he was buried are still notorious. Bennett's mother died in 2012, five years before Brady, without ever being able to say a proper goodbye to her son. Another candidate who perhaps should have been there is Mary Bell, who around the time of her 11th birthday in 1968 murdered two young children, Martin Brown (aged 4) whilst she was still just 10, and Brian Howe (aged 3).
I agree with others commenting they can't believe Ian Brady and Myra Hindley aren't on the list. Another killer couple. Charles Bronson recently got denied parole. I'm sure Peter Sutcliffe died after contracting COVID
I absolutely love you both! An awesome couple! You said The Krays look like the Mob, and I thought you might be interested to know they were so ruthless that they stopped the Mob from coming to the UK
There is a lot of mob and gangsters , hard men that was more brutal back in the day until technology got more advanced it started to calm down in the early 2000s true fact been loads of murders that’s happened and never discovered from this day alot are just missing people because there body has not been discovered and may never be .
Amelia Dyer was born in 1836 and was executed in 1896. Unfortunately, during this time in London there were many thousands of people living in abject poverty. As a result many destitute Victorian women would 'farm off' or hand over (for a small fee) their babies to women known as baby farmers. These babies would then be looked after by this woman, or she would sell them on to others to make a living. Amelia Dyer was even worse, in that she killed the children and pocketed the money paid to her for their upkeep. Unfortunately, life was very cheap in those days. In Victorian times children were regularly hung or deported to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread, because they were starving. Not a good time or place to be alive if you were poor.
1970's forensics was in its infancy, no central Police computer so information sharing was very limited and linked crimes were difficult to establish. With modern forensics, crimes can be linked quickly and details shared worldwide at the touch of a button so serial killers are usually stopped before they begin a spree.
I'm somewhat obsessed with true crime, especially serial killers and psychopaths, and it's crazy how many criminals, in the US especially, could commit heinous crimes and just move to the next state pretend to have a different name and carry on like nothing happened.
The information sharing would have been better for high profile crimes, like these. Though less so for unsolved crimes that were committed by the same individual before they gained notoriety.
I follow you guys for quite a while now and you became my nr.1 standard for an American, European minded couple. Without any tiktok filters but dogs running over you while filming, just being honestly, just the way you are. In Westen Europe ( at least Netherlands and Germany) we appreciate honesty and openness above all. Say what you want but mean what you say, no bullshitting around (sorry, can I say "shit"? ) . Keep on posting, I love to see your reactions on what's going on in the world. With love, from the Netherlands.
Growing up in East London ( The Krays territory) my Grandmother had a caravan next to Violet Kray, they were friends. My GM said although the Krays were notorious gangsters they always looked after their own and were very much gentlemen. If you crossed them then yes it was a different story…
Forensics, especially DNA, have made it more difficult to go the distance as a serial killer. Shipman managed to subvert that by writing the death certificates for his own victims. However it is how he eventually got caught out - one of his colleagues noticed his patient mortality rate was a tad "nuanced".
DNA and fingerprints won't be much help if the serial killer is not known to police before hand, for them to have their DNA or finger prints on record. Take someone like me for example, never been in trouble with the law, not known to police, never had my DNA or finger prints taken. I could probably get away with some serious stuff for some time before they find out who I am.
This list is actually missing some 'great' ones, Myra Hindley, and Ian Brady, Bible John, Burke and Hare You want to watch 'Des' Its got David Tennant playing Dennis Neilston, there is so much more to that story (including when the police came to his flat he had a human head boiling in a pot on the stove)
Harold Shipman didnt get caught because he was killing people. He got caught because he tried to forge one of his victim’s wills. If he hadn’t done that, he could have carried on for a long time. The number attributed to him is up to about 250 after further reviews.
Serial killers still operate around the world, but I think with the advent of social media/mobile phones and CCTV it's a lot less common these days. As soon as someone is found to be missing the alerts are raised. Harold Shipman (the GP who killed patients) mostly got away with it for so long as a large proportion of his patients were elderly. One of his victims was an elderly lady whose husband had called him to attend on a house call. I don't know what was wrong with her, but Shipman gave her a lethal injection and then went and had a cup of tea with her husband. The coroners didn't question it as he always used 'old age' as cause of death - and he moved to new surgeries a few times.
I agree about CCTV, but it's not really due to social media. The other big game-changer that significantly reduced the chances of these kind of killers going uncaught for years was the discovery of DNA fingerprinting. CCTV and DNA detection together mean we will thankfully probably never again see the kind of prolific serial killers that terrorised the US and UK during the 60s, 70s and early 80s.
I know thar Shipman's case led to a tightening up of rules and increased checks on certification of deaths to try and ensure this couldn't happen again. I think the use of DNA has meant that serial killers would probably get caught more quickly these days.
Harold Shipman was only caught when he tried to profit from an old woman's death, by trying to inherit her money. He got caught from that, then they started checking his patient history list...
What about the Moors murderers, Ian Brady & Myra Hindley? They were two of the most notorious murderers in Britain, killing several children and burying them on Saddleworth Moor. Despite many police searches and pleas from the family for the location of their loved one to be disclosed, one of the children still remains undiscovered to this day!
The reason the infanticidist got away with it for so long was the infant mortality rate, no vaccinations for childhood disease, no treatment for common bacterial infections not to mention water quality etc very few kids made it to 5.
Fred West flirted with my Irish Aunt (who moved to Cheltenham, UK) in a cafe (she worked there) back in the 90s and he offered her a lift home. My aunt rejected his advances and luckily my Uncle (6ft 7 man) came to pick her up. To this day, we have no idea how that would have turned out if she had accepted his offer of a lift.
My uncle was hitchhiking in the 80's and got a lift from ol' Fred. Said he got seriously creepy vibes from him and when West wanted to take a 'quick detour' down a single lane farm track my uncle said its alright mate and got out quick sharp. Didn't think anything more of it till he saw he'd been arrested years later. Wonder what would have happened to him if he'd gone with him.
@Karla Bradley it certainly is! Being a bloke he probably would have been spared the worst of it, I dread to think what would have happened to your aunt, but that's not to say he wouldn't have tried beating and robbing him, who knows, the bloke was a fruit loop. To a lot of people my uncle was a bit woo woo, used to tell me about ghostly encounters he had but he always stressed just how wrong he felt being in the car with him, how off Fred made him feel, if he hadn't of listened to his gut it could have been a very different story.
Yes, baby farming was a genuine thing in Victorian England - and Amelia Dyer won't have been the only one by a long chalk. I read about her when I was about ten, I think. The story was called something like "Amelia Dyer's Bag of Horrors". She was known for putting the bodies of the babies she killed into carpet-bags before throwing them in the Thames.
Seeing you write "long chalk" I wondered what it actually means and just came up with that final diagonal line you draw through the four single lines to make 5! I wonder if that's it Lol
Yes there are many many women who were hanged for baby farming I remember doing a paper on it.. it’s was common in the uk and there was one in Australia that was hanged too for it
Dennis Nilson's story was also made into a BBC drama called 'Des'. I don't know why this list doesn't include The Moors Murders of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Also Beverley Allitt infant murders in the late 80's early 90's.
You actually weren't far off with the Dennis Nilsen plumber thing. People in the flats below were having plumbing issues and called someone out, the man checked the drain and found fresh blocking it. What's most interesting about his case is he was so casual about the things he had done. When they showed up to talk to him he invited them in and showed them where the rest of the body was. He liked to play games with the Police and would change the numbers of kills and details about the murders a lot but pretty much closed up entirely when he found out what happened to his dog. His case has always facinated me.
JT saying why is Landon Screaming was my Highlight from this!! Pot Kettle Black as we used to say! lol Also where were the Moors Murderers should have been 1-3 in the list?
They have the teapot that Cotton is thought to have used to administer poisoned tea with in Beamish Museum, around 2 miles from where I live in County Durham. We used to visit the museum several times a year and on one trip we were taken on a tour of the stores where they kept the more high value/high importance exhibits, so I’ve actually seen it in person.
Your right about Jack the Ripper. There was a TV show in 2019 where two of Scotland Yard's best crime detectives combed over the crimes, rebuilt the crime scenes and used Britian's best computer technology to try.and solve it. The police database HERMES even proved that Martha was his true first victim.. Although they couldn't difinitively solve it, they were able to prove many of the suspects were truly innocent and agreed with the original cops of the time on their prime suspect.. A man they even started watching who attacked his own sister and was sectioned with mental problems.. They are 99.5% convinced thar Aaron Kominski was Jack the Ripper
There is also the theory that H.H.Holmes was Jack the Ripper as there is evidence that he was in London at the time of the murders and returned to America right around the time they stopped. Also in of his ancestors says he has his diaries in which he describes the murders in great detail, but he wont let anybody actually look at it unless they pay him a lot of money, so....
I also saw a programe a few years ago saying Jack The Ripper was a sailor. His murders tied in with times a particular vessel was docked, and stopped when he went to the US (I can't remember which city) but a sailor who had been on this vessel docked in London during the Whitechapel murders was caught and executed in the US for carrying out identical murders. This was then used to explain why JTR never returned to killing in London.
Yeah that Dr Shipman thing and the Wests Fred and Rose were absolutely horrific when it came to light. Can't believe Brady and Hindley aren't on this list though. Ian Huntley is another that needs to be on the list, as well as Levi Bellfield. As too does Robert Thompson and Jon Venables, who killed a toddler when they were both only 10 years old. Both have been in and out of prison several times since because of ch*ld ab*se... and they keep getting given new identities, moved to new areas, and they then carry out criminal activity again, so they get moved again and given fresh identities again. Bronson though... scary yes, dangerous, yes. Yet, spending over 50 years in jail... and he's never actually taken a life.
The answer to the “why in the 70s” question is generally forensic science advancements. Before that it was very much police just asking people what they’ve seen or heard. Advancements in microbiology made it possible to link murderers to victims purely from microfibre transactions which happen whenever people meet & come into contact with each other. So if you found a victim - as long as it was relatively recent, you’d get all kinds of dna transferences, microfibres, hair follicles, skin cuticles, etc.
Interesting overview but there was really very little detail on most of these cases, and a few other notorious killers were left out. Really surprised Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, called "The Moors Murderers", were omitted from that video you watched. Their case is one of the most infamous in the UK. If you enjoy documentaries about killers and the investigations into them, then some of those cases are worth finding out more about. There are documentaries about Shipman, Nilsen, the Krays, the Wests, the Moors Murderers and other high profile cases here on YT. A longer list of notorious UK killers would also include: Beverley Allitt, Levi Bellfield, Robert Black, Burke and Hare, John Christie, Joanna Dennehy, Kenneth Erskine, John Haigh, Ian Huntley, Colin Ireland, Colin Pitchfork, Peter Tobin and Steven Wright. Also spree killers Derrick Bird, Thomas Hamilton and Michael Ryan who claimed several victims each, though on rampages not in serial killings.
Charles Bronson was just refused parole. I was 5 when the Yorkshire Ripper was arrested, and 100 miles away from where he was operating. I can still remember the all pervading sense of fear that women felt. Baby farming was really common in Victorian England. Some of the women genuinely did get better lives for the kids. Some just killed them. Amelia Dyer was not the only one, but she's the most prolific. My husband used to hitchike as a teenager, in the early 80s. He's pretty sure he was offered a lift near London by Dennis Nilson, and refused it because something felt off about him.
Bronson got denied freedom and it forgets to mention that bronson actually has done alot while in solitary for the last 20+ years he's sold painting and all profits go to charity, he's raised thousands for a lot of charities actually,
Surprised Jon venables isn’t on this list. He and his friend who I always forget his name took 2 year old Jamie burger from a shopping center, abused him and tied him to a train track and left him to die This was when they were about 10 years old as well. He’s been put back inside multiple times since for possession of indecent images of kids as well This happened in 1993 I think it was
Robert thompson Don't forget they pushed him in the canal to drown him they put battery's in his mouth threw bricks at him raped him threw blue paint in his eyes kicked him they dropped a 10kg fishplate on him he had over 42 injury to his body and only got sentenced to 8 years in a detention center not even prison they had a better life in there then they actually did at home
@Jermaine Anthony Thompson does seem to have kept his nose clean since being released, but Venables has been in and out of prison ever since, most often in regard to other child-related offences. You can read about it for yourself. I would agree with your main point that they wouldn't merit being in this top ten. There are other far more unworthy individuals who should be but aren't for some reason.
@Jermaine Anthony I would say that the deliberate abduction and killing of a toddler is a monstrous crime, and certainly on a par with some on this list. Anyone who might claim they were children themselves and didn't comprehend what they were doing should remember that they placed Jamie's body on the railway line hoping it would be destroyed by a train. They understood very well what they were doing. That still doesn't mean I think they merit inclusion in a top ten, but would certainly be contenders if it were extended to fifteen or twenty.
My friend from work grew up next door to Fred and Rose West, he often used to climb in to their garden to retrieve his football when it went over the fence. He often claimed he was the only child to make it out of their garden alive.
The only reason they caught Shipman was the coroners office noticed his name coming up on signed documents over and over. Police followed up and found that one of his victims seemed to have left all to him in her will, but when they analysed the will and his own keyboard, the tiny imperfections on the strokes etc matched up.
Rumour has it that Fred West is my mates dad, He looks very similar and Fred West worked 16 miles from where I live in the early 70's, the plot thickens
I've lived near to a couple of these - and another notorious violent criminal. Dr. Harold Shipman lived less than 100 yards from where I lived in Newton Aycliffe in the mid 70s - And Mary-Anne Cotton lived in West Auckland... the next village along from where I lived in Bishop Auckland (though obviously not at the same time) Used to be an info board above the door of her old house, until the owner got sick of people knocking on the door to ask questions. Also, a guy who became known as the M-25 trophy rapist - Antoni Imiela - Lived just round the corner from me in the early 70s, also in Newton Aycliffe. He was a teenager when my group of friends were all 8/9 yrs old, but we all knew about him - he was a wrong-un even then - House/shop break-ins etc... And one time his sister became pregnant while still at school, him and his dad went looking for the b/f with a shotgun - luckily the Police found them before they caught up with the b/f. He did prison time for armed robbery in the 80s, then went on his violent 'spree' in the early 2000s, a few yrs after getting out.
Before we got married, my husband and I lived together for a couple of years. When we were looking for somewhere to rent in Gloucester we checked out a flat in Cromwell street ! It wasn’t for us…..thank goodness! It turned out to be right opposite the West’s house and about 6 months later, the 💩 hit the fan and the whole world watched the horror unfold! What a lucky escape! Can you imagine living opposite with all that going on?! Love your videos and your love for the UK 😊
when i was a child my dad was hitchhiking to Gloucester with me when we were picked up by someone who kept asking repeatedly my if he wanted to stop off and meet his wife . he thinks this was Fred west as he operated around our areas , He said he kept declining and felt very wierd how this guy kept asking in different ways .
Fun fact, Harold shipman’s doctor’s surgery was about 3 miles away from where I live. Luckily none of my family members have ever been patients there! Used to walk passed where the surgery used to be all the time. Another fun fact.. Peter Sutcliffe, aka the Yorkshire ripper. During his reign of terror, there were hoax tapes sent to the police saying they were the Yorkshire ripper, and it was a man with a Geordie accent. My parents, both Geordies moved down to Manchester (not too far from Yorkshire) around the same time. My dad, had black hair and black facial hair. Cos of the hoax tapes and looking the way he did, my dad was questioned over Sutcliffes crimes. No, my dad wasn’t called Peter!! It wasn’t him. But yeah, scary time for my parents.
Yes, we were more naive in the 70's. Plus there was no internet and different police didn't liaise with other police areas. There's a great short drama series about Fred West called 'Appropriate Adult'. I recommend it.
Growing up in Leeds, we were all constantly afraid of the Yorkshire Ripper. One victim was found about 20 yards behind the local shops my Mum used, we were there maybe 2/3 times a week! This was literally in our back yard. All girls were told how to observe and be careful wherever we went. I even took to stealing a small kitchen knife from my Mum and carrying it in my pocket. I think a lot of other people did too. The body near us was a student and was the first victim who wasn't a prostitute. That's when we all became afraid, before that, everyone assumed they weren't at risk, and the killings were always in bad areas. Suddenly it moved to a polite suburban studenty area, and all bets were off. :/
I grew up in a small town just south of the Humber Bridge. My dad was a truck driver with thick black hair and a similar coloured beard. I remember one dark January early evening when the police knocked on our door. They asked my dad a few questions, looking for a truck driver, of appropriate age, sporting thick black hair and beard. I know West Yorkshire Police have attracted much criticism over this Yorkshire Ripper affair, but in `scanning` every truck driver within 80 miles of Leeds seems to me that they put in an effort. I can`t remember the exact details concerning the critisism. Maybe they were criticised for their Intelligence. I mean the gathering of Intelligence that would eventually lead to Sutcliff`s arrest and conviction. I see my dad once a week - on a Monday - when I have a day off and we catch up over a few pints. I`ll ask him tomorrow if he can remeber any questions asked of him. It`s not the kind of questioning one woud easily forget.
My dad decided that it would be a good time to visit relatives in county Durham at the time that he was prevalent. I remember there were armed soldiers patrolling the streets.
My Nan, who is 94, comes from the same area of London as the Kray twins and remembers them well. She always said they had to avoid a certain area of theirs that they ruled 😂 must have been scary. Also, I looooove Bailey Sarian. She's amazing ❤
@@Naturally3m0 I dunno, I think people who can maintain their manners while doing horrendous things are more scary than people who shout and swear. There is a certain coldness to being able to do that.
Harold Shipman was a doctor in my hometown in the early days of his career, and when I used to present quizzes I had a tie-breaker about Mary Ann Cotton who lived around ten miles away they even made a TV drama about her called Dark Angel in 2016
Baby farming occurred in the USA too. The tape Amelia Dyre used “tape” which was like ribbon/string. You would use it to tie up parcels and similar stuff
Jt the tom hardy movie legend about the kray twins is shit Their is a movie called. the krays made in 1990. That version is better It stars Gary and Martin Kemp as the twins. Its on RUclips in its entirety check it out
I love the fact that u have given Maggie a middle name! Im so so glad im not the only 1 to do this! Currently, dog wise, we just have Georgia May, as her brother died last July. He was Otis John. Of course they have/nicknames too for when they're being good, but if they are misbehaving, they get called by they full names! Lol! 😂😂
Dr Crippen should have been on the list although I think he was an American citizen who committed the murder of his wife dismembered her and only her torso was recovered . He was the first person to be apprehended because of the wireless telegraph as he and his lover tried to escape on board a ship to Canada. They were captured taken back to Britain and he was hung.
One fact with Peter Sutcliffe, at a time when police didn't know who he was they began interviewing people who matched his description and who was in the area they believed him to be. My grandfather turned out to be one of those people my gran remembers having to leave the room whilst police questioned him. Granted loads of others were too but that's always cool for me to think my grandfather resembled that guy
A while ago I read Peter Hook's book about Joy Division. At the height of the ripper murders in 1979 the band were still playing a lot of clubs which happened to be in red light districts. Peter drove the van with the gear in, and one night the police knocked on his door to interview him about the case. Obviously they needed to eliminate him from the inquiry, but that must have been pretty scary.
The Yorkshire Ripper died recently in prison. Charles Bronson was refused parole this year. Martin and Gary Kemp from Spandau Ballet played the Kray Twins before Tom Hardy.
Tom hardy himself is old school British, bare knuckle fighting, gangs of London, you can see in his eyes in some interviews when he’s asked stupid questions what he really feels about that person. I wouldn’t want to piss him off at all, well unless you want a beating. Can’t fault him on getting away from that scene into acting though. But you can tell it’s still buried in him.
I'm into true crime as well and have read several books on serial killers. The best one for me was the book about Bob Berdella. It was written by one of the detectives on the case I think, and you don't find out how he disposed of the bodies until the end. I was imagining all the ways he got rid of the bodies throughout reading the book but when I found out, at the end, I was shocked. 😲 I won't say any more in case you want to read the book, but if you are into true crime books, I can't recommend the one about Bob Berdella highly enough. It's a great read.
At the time when Peter Sutcliffe was on his killing spree we lived in an area of Leeds called Headingley. One of his victims was found at the Arndale Centre, which is a couple of minutes from where we lived. There was also an attempted murder of a female at the top of our street, which was labelled as him doing it but was never proved. At the time, male police officers would dress up as women and walk the streets to try and lure him out, there was also police checkpoints everywhere to try and catch him. They actually did have him in police custody once, but he was released....
In the photo of the crossbow cannibal. The building behind him is Bradford City Hall. I am from Bradford and if you are meeting someone that's we're we meet. The strange thing is that Peter Sutcliffe, crossbow cannibal and the black panther. Who murdered postoffice staff and kidnapped women. All came from Bradford. Also John Christie from nearby Halifax. His wife was born in Bradford.
I live in the same city as Mary Ann Cotton, theres a good tv show of late came out about her called Dark Angel, well worth a watch. Theres also rhymes we used to sing about her as ghost stories at school infront of the mirror 😂 "Mary Ann Cotton, she’s dead and she’s rotten. Lying in bed with her eyes wide open. Sing, sing, oh what should I sing? Mary Ann Cotton, she’s tied up with string. Where, where? Up in the air. Selling black puddings, a penny a pair.”
They found Amelia Dyer out since one of the babies were wrapped in one of her packages with her address on. She didn't start killing them till later on since mothers would be checking up on their babies, it wasn't just adoption but also a monthly payment of baby sitting for mums with over time jobs they could be working far away, they may even have to sleep at work. there was a lot more to it. really sad stuff
Such an American thing to say - "if somebody knocked on your door you just answered the door" & "you always make sure your doors a re locked" - Our doors in Wales are only locked if we go out or when we're all in bed, if any one of us is up and awake the door is open.
Hey! Could you guys do a reaction to broadmoor hospital? Charles bronson and the kray twins spent some time there. I have walked around the outside of the hospital a few times and the feeling you get when you are there is very creepy! Love you guys content, love from 🏴
My whole family come from Fulham, London, my uncle was a runner for the Krays, used to collect money and parcels for them, he also was a driver for another London criminal not mentioned here, called John Bindon, him and my uncle when they were teens used to always get put into lock ups, like young offenders institutes, but my uncle was a wizard with locks and used to break them out all the time. My dad was also best friends with John Bindon as they were neighbours from when they were kids, they got up to some serious stuff, my dad saying the only thing that saved him from 'being a right bastard' was my mum, who he met when he was 16. John Bindon turned to acting and was in the film 'Get Carter' with Michael Cane amongst others. He turned up to one of my parents many parties with Richard Harris, Dumbledore from Harry Potter, he just sat in the corner and got very drunk on 100% whiskey. I could tell you a lot of stories, especially where John Bindon was when he went on the run and disappeared for 3 days and turned up in Ireland, to this day nobody knows where he went for those missing 3 days....I do.
I think the creepiest on this list (and thus deserve a higher placing) are Harold Shipman (the dr) and Fred and Rosemary West. Chills go down my spine whenever I hear them mentioned.
Jack the Ripper story - Not all the women he murdered were prostitutes, some were just homeless, that was the medias fault for telling people they were all prostitutes. The book FIVE is a really good book that goes into the history of each woman. Also there is a solid theory that there wasn't one person that was responsible for these murders or that the organs were removed where the bodies were found, they were slashed yes but the organs were removed in the morgue and sold to the highest bidder, surgeons would pay a lot of money for women's organs at that time. To cover up the wrong doings, The Ripper was invented and he media went with it.
Beverley Allitt, Bradey and Hindley, Steve Wright (lorry driver - not the radio DJ), Robert Black, John Christie are all names that should probably be on this list. Peter Sutcliff died fairly recently, and Charles Bronson, in the last month or so lost his request for parole... again! Allitt, and Lucy Letby (Lucy is currently on trial) are particularly unpleasant, as their victims were new-born babies and (for Allitt) young children in hospital where they were nurses.
To be honest, Charlie Bronson is quite an interesting figure. I’d highly recommend watching the film. I believe it is called just Bronson obviously starring Tom Hardy
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How the hell did Myra Hindley and Ian Brady not make the list, them 2 were savages
Was literally thinking the same thing
Was just about to come and post this. Every number I presumed would be then next.
Hindley/Brady could arguably have been #1
The west's should have been much higher too
Exactly, probably the two most despised and despicable bags of shite in British history, only James Bulger's killers come close, no there's two that the gene pool wouldn't miss.
Yeah they should have been on the list along with Raoul Moat, Thomas Hamilton and Johanna Dennehey.
Beats me, should've taken out crossbow cannibal and had them in instead
How can they compile a list like that without including Myra Hindley and Ian Brady who killed at least 5 children in horrific ways, they even tape recorded one of their murders. Hindley became Britain's most hated woman right up until her death 2002
I agree the violence and lack of remorse from them (I do not believe for a second Hindley's claims of remorse or she would have given the body locations) should have put them close to the top. They were evil through and through.
The thing is, whilst I agree they could easily take a spot on this list, you could extend this list to 100+ people all contending for the top 10 shitbags.
Agreed they should be high on that list
Totally agree with you my friend, but to be honest I do not think that Hindley died in prison they were considering to release her but with the uproar from the public nothing happened,then the next thing she had died of a heart attack my view she's out in the general public.
@@jonjonas-om3ws Although plausible that she is still alive, given her past of consistent medical issues throughout her time in prison, making it to 81 which she would be now would be extremely unlikely. Also her place of death being in an actual NHS hospital rather than in prison still, making it harder (but not impossible) to cover up, I think she is dead. Even if she was released with a new identity, very unlikely she is still alive today.
Also the abduction, abuse and murder of Jamie Bulger. A little boy grabbed by 2 other boys in a shopping mall while his mum looked away for a second.
A pair that are missing from that list are two 10yr olds, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson, the murderers of 2yr old James Bulger.
Venables and Thompson adbucted Bulger from a shopping centre, dropped him on his head, joked about pushing Bulger into a nearby canal, and led Bulger to a railway line. When at the railway line, Venables and Thompson set about kicking, stamping on, and throwing sticks and stones at Bulger. The pair finally dropped a 10kg railway fishplate (metal plate used to connect two railway lines) on Bulger. The pathologist working on the crime stated that Bulger suffered so many injuries that none could be identified as being the fatal blow. Bulger had 42 injuries in total.
Thompson and Venables laid the body of James Bulger across the railway tracks and weighted his head down with rubble, hoping that a train would hit him and that his death would be ruled as an accident. The body of James Bulger, severed due to a train cutting him in half, was discovered two days later by a group of children.
There's a lot more that Venables and Thompson inflicted on James that I can't bring myself to repeat here.
the devils sons those 2
They even cut his dick off and not too long ago 2 girls did something similar to a little girl that was about the same age as this boy it was horrifying and its one crime I will never forget
Absolutely disgusting what they did. Every time I hear it I feel so sorry for the mother for them split seconds when they were able to lead him away from her. I have kids of my own and can't begin to imagine what she went through or is still going through. Specially since they have been given new names and released. One has since been found with child porn and sent back to prison more than once I believe.
They should have done to them what they did to James
And then he went on to nonce about. Evil little prick
@@Cyapow Thompson hasn't done anything since his release. Venables was caught with Child Porn and has revealed his real identity multiple times.
Charles Bronson isnt as scary as some names missed out in this. Branson was denied parole and is currently still serving time. In my life time (35 years) Shipman and Ian Huntley are the two names I will never forget
Guess he's pretty scary to those on his wrong side..i.e prison guards and other inmates..he's more infamous with people in that world
@@Billy.Nomates yeah I agree with that.
How about levi bellfield and more Millie Anne. He's probably one of the worst, most violent men ever to be in the UK.
He never actually killed anybody though. He was just very very violent inside and outside of prison
The top 10 list skimmed over the details of the particularly gory murders, and that Hindley and Brady weren't on the list was insane.
I'm not blaming Jt and Anna, they are just reacting to other peoples work.
I love their dog sleepng behind them, so cute.
The Moors Murderers, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley should be on here too. They tortured and murdered children
It's hard to imagine a 'top 10' list without this horrific series of crimes!
I just made a comment about these 2, shocked they didn't make the list
Exactly, I was wondering why they weren't there too, although Myra was the killer, Ian Brady just helped to catch and dispose of the bodies.
Can add The chucky killers on that list too
There's a woman on trial at the moment, accused of murdering babies while working in the hospital. Lucy Letby. And a male breast cancer surgeon, Ian Paterson, he has been jailed for carrying out needless operations, he disfigured many people for no reason. It's terrifying to think that these people are out there and we trust them with our lives.
Beverly Allott was another like Lucy Letby - she was a nurse found guilty of murdering babies and children in her care.
You seen the note Lucy let by wrote? I wouldn't be surprised if she pleads insanity and gets put into Broadmoor
@@kieranolafferty523 Sounds like Lucy Letby has a crippling and destructive case of OCD every time I read about her. She's obviously insane, who in their right mind would murder anyone unless they were unstable
I live on the road Lucy Letby lived on and it just makes me feel really uncomfortable. 🙈🙈 Those poor babies. And I can't imagine what their parents must have gone through and are still going through. 🥺🥺
Doctor/Nurse is a great job for a sadistic psychopath.
Am surprised Ian Brady and Myra Hindly weren't on here for the moors murders.
Bronson didn't get parole in 2020 in fact he just lost his parole in the last 2 weeks
He was never getting it was he
@madyottoyotto3055 no not a chance but still he's never killed raped anyone so I think he needs a chance But then again he's going be so Institutionalised I don't think he would cope
@@paganant3623 yer go and watch how he behaves in prison he not even ready for another chance
@@madyottoyotto3055 hasn't done anything in prison for about 6 or 7 years now
@@chris-mc4dg and yet the screws still won't open his pad without 6 personal equipped
I was born in 1967. I just about remember one of my great grandmothers still being alive. What blows my mind is that she would have a girl of about 10 years old when the Jack the Ripper murders took place about a mile from where she lived.
Wow that's amazing. I hope you write all this down for your future ancestors? Can you imagine being given a notebook with all your family history in it, what a coveted possession it would be
I was born in 1967 and I lived near Headingly, where one of the girls was found. Yes, we all felt very afraid, once the Ripper started killing women who weren't prostitutes. It was a very, very weird and scary time. On the one hand we were afraid of the Ripper at home, and on the other we were afraid of IRA bombs in town centres! And on top of all that, we were afraid of the threat of nuclear war too. As I say, weird times!
Tom Hardy is just one of the best actors to have come out of England, i highly recommend watching some of the films he is in
Agree he is a fabulous actor
He is a fab actor, but the best? Nah
For me, he was the star of Peaky Blinders.
Can’t believe the missed Myra Hindley and Ian Brady with the Moors murders.
It's curious that they chose to include Bronson, who they admitted had never killed anybody, and yet didn't include the Moors Murderers, whose odious crimes and the manner in which they continued to torment the mother of Keith Bennett (whose body remains undiscovered to this day) by refusing to say where he was buried are still notorious. Bennett's mother died in 2012, five years before Brady, without ever being able to say a proper goodbye to her son.
Another candidate who perhaps should have been there is Mary Bell, who around the time of her 11th birthday in 1968 murdered two young children, Martin Brown (aged 4) whilst she was still just 10, and Brian Howe (aged 3).
I agree with others commenting they can't believe Ian Brady and Myra Hindley aren't on the list. Another killer couple.
Charles Bronson recently got denied parole. I'm sure Peter Sutcliffe died after contracting COVID
Definitely worth watching the ITV drama "Des" which is about Dennis Nilsen. David Tenant portrays him brilliantly.
I absolutely love you both! An awesome couple! You said The Krays look like the Mob, and I thought you might be interested to know they were so ruthless that they stopped the Mob from coming to the UK
They were the mob
There is a lot of mob and gangsters , hard men that was more brutal back in the day until technology got more advanced it started to calm down in the early 2000s true fact been loads of murders that’s happened and never discovered from this day alot are just missing people because there body has not been discovered and may never be .
Amelia Dyer was born in 1836 and was executed in 1896. Unfortunately, during this time in London there were many thousands of people living in abject poverty. As a result many destitute Victorian women would 'farm off' or hand over (for a small fee) their babies to women known as baby farmers. These babies would then be looked after by this woman, or she would sell them on to others to make a living. Amelia Dyer was even worse, in that she killed the children and pocketed the money paid to her for their upkeep.
Unfortunately, life was very cheap in those days. In Victorian times children were regularly hung or deported to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread, because they were starving. Not a good time or place to be alive if you were poor.
1970's forensics was in its infancy, no central Police computer so information sharing was very limited and linked crimes were difficult to establish. With modern forensics, crimes can be linked quickly and details shared worldwide at the touch of a button so serial killers are usually stopped before they begin a spree.
I'm somewhat obsessed with true crime, especially serial killers and psychopaths, and it's crazy how many criminals, in the US especially, could commit heinous crimes and just move to the next state pretend to have a different name and carry on like nothing happened.
The information sharing would have been better for high profile crimes, like these. Though less so for unsolved crimes that were committed by the same individual before they gained notoriety.
I love how JT's equivalent of swearing in shock is 'cheese and rice', proper southern wholesomeness
I follow you guys for quite a while now and you became my nr.1 standard for an American, European minded couple. Without any tiktok filters but dogs running over you while filming, just being honestly, just the way you are. In Westen Europe ( at least Netherlands and Germany) we appreciate honesty and openness above all. Say what you want but mean what you say, no bullshitting around (sorry, can I say "shit"? ) . Keep on posting, I love to see your reactions on what's going on in the world. With love, from the Netherlands.
Growing up in East London ( The Krays territory) my Grandmother had a caravan next to Violet Kray, they were friends. My GM said although the Krays were notorious gangsters they always looked after their own and were very much gentlemen. If you crossed them then yes it was a different story…
Yes, I think the Krays were mostly a danger to fellow criminals.
Forensics, especially DNA, have made it more difficult to go the distance as a serial killer.
Shipman managed to subvert that by writing the death certificates for his own victims. However it is how he eventually got caught out - one of his colleagues noticed his patient mortality rate was a tad "nuanced".
DNA and fingerprints won't be much help if the serial killer is not known to police before hand, for them to have their DNA or finger prints on record. Take someone like me for example, never been in trouble with the law, not known to police, never had my DNA or finger prints taken. I could probably get away with some serious stuff for some time before they find out who I am.
This list is actually missing some 'great' ones, Myra Hindley, and Ian Brady, Bible John, Burke and Hare
You want to watch 'Des' Its got David Tennant playing Dennis Neilston, there is so much more to that story (including when the police came to his flat he had a human head boiling in a pot on the stove)
Harold Shipman didnt get caught because he was killing people. He got caught because he tried to forge one of his victim’s wills. If he hadn’t done that, he could have carried on for a long time.
The number attributed to him is up to about 250 after further reviews.
Just so you know the word is 'hanged'... 'Hung' is something very different. 😊
Serial killers still operate around the world, but I think with the advent of social media/mobile phones and CCTV it's a lot less common these days. As soon as someone is found to be missing the alerts are raised. Harold Shipman (the GP who killed patients) mostly got away with it for so long as a large proportion of his patients were elderly. One of his victims was an elderly lady whose husband had called him to attend on a house call. I don't know what was wrong with her, but Shipman gave her a lethal injection and then went and had a cup of tea with her husband. The coroners didn't question it as he always used 'old age' as cause of death - and he moved to new surgeries a few times.
I agree about CCTV, but it's not really due to social media. The other big game-changer that significantly reduced the chances of these kind of killers going uncaught for years was the discovery of DNA fingerprinting. CCTV and DNA detection together mean we will thankfully probably never again see the kind of prolific serial killers that terrorised the US and UK during the 60s, 70s and early 80s.
I know thar Shipman's case led to a tightening up of rules and increased checks on certification of deaths to try and ensure this couldn't happen again.
I think the use of DNA has meant that serial killers would probably get caught more quickly these days.
Harold Shipman was only caught when he tried to profit from an old woman's death, by trying to inherit her money. He got caught from that, then they started checking his patient history list...
What about the Moors murderers, Ian Brady & Myra Hindley? They were two of the most notorious murderers in Britain, killing several children and burying them on Saddleworth Moor. Despite many police searches and pleas from the family for the location of their loved one to be disclosed, one of the children still remains undiscovered to this day!
The reason the infanticidist got away with it for so long was the infant mortality rate, no vaccinations for childhood disease, no treatment for common bacterial infections not to mention water quality etc very few kids made it to 5.
Fred West flirted with my Irish Aunt (who moved to Cheltenham, UK) in a cafe (she worked there) back in the 90s and he offered her a lift home. My aunt rejected his advances and luckily my Uncle (6ft 7 man) came to pick her up. To this day, we have no idea how that would have turned out if she had accepted his offer of a lift.
Very early 90s.
My uncle was hitchhiking in the 80's and got a lift from ol' Fred. Said he got seriously creepy vibes from him and when West wanted to take a 'quick detour' down a single lane farm track my uncle said its alright mate and got out quick sharp. Didn't think anything more of it till he saw he'd been arrested years later. Wonder what would have happened to him if he'd gone with him.
@@nickyjones88 Its terrifying actualy thinking about it really. 😳
@Karla Bradley it certainly is! Being a bloke he probably would have been spared the worst of it, I dread to think what would have happened to your aunt, but that's not to say he wouldn't have tried beating and robbing him, who knows, the bloke was a fruit loop. To a lot of people my uncle was a bit woo woo, used to tell me about ghostly encounters he had but he always stressed just how wrong he felt being in the car with him, how off Fred made him feel, if he hadn't of listened to his gut it could have been a very different story.
Yes, baby farming was a genuine thing in Victorian England - and Amelia Dyer won't have been the only one by a long chalk. I read about her when I was about ten, I think. The story was called something like "Amelia Dyer's Bag of Horrors". She was known for putting the bodies of the babies she killed into carpet-bags before throwing them in the Thames.
Seeing you write "long chalk" I wondered what it actually means and just came up with that final diagonal line you draw through the four single lines to make 5! I wonder if that's it Lol
She was from the town I live in
Yes there are many many women who were hanged for baby farming I remember doing a paper on it.. it’s was common in the uk and there was one in Australia that was hanged too for it
Dennis Nilson's story was also made into a BBC drama called 'Des'.
I don't know why this list doesn't include The Moors Murders of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Also Beverley Allitt infant murders in the late 80's early 90's.
JT - do you know you are LOUDER than Landon? Lmao! 😂🤣😂
You actually weren't far off with the Dennis Nilsen plumber thing. People in the flats below were having plumbing issues and called someone out, the man checked the drain and found fresh blocking it. What's most interesting about his case is he was so casual about the things he had done. When they showed up to talk to him he invited them in and showed them where the rest of the body was. He liked to play games with the Police and would change the numbers of kills and details about the murders a lot but pretty much closed up entirely when he found out what happened to his dog. His case has always facinated me.
JT saying why is Landon Screaming was my Highlight from this!! Pot Kettle Black as we used to say! lol Also where were the Moors Murderers should have been 1-3 in the list?
They have the teapot that Cotton is thought to have used to administer poisoned tea with in Beamish Museum, around 2 miles from where I live in County Durham. We used to visit the museum several times a year and on one trip we were taken on a tour of the stores where they kept the more high value/high importance exhibits, so I’ve actually seen it in person.
Poor Maggy thinking "it can't be me i don't have opposable thumbs"🐶.
Your right about Jack the Ripper. There was a TV show in 2019 where two of Scotland Yard's best crime detectives combed over the crimes, rebuilt the crime scenes and used Britian's best computer technology to try.and solve it. The police database HERMES even proved that Martha was his true first victim.. Although they couldn't difinitively solve it, they were able to prove many of the suspects were truly innocent and agreed with the original cops of the time on their prime suspect.. A man they even started watching who attacked his own sister and was sectioned with mental problems.. They are 99.5% convinced thar Aaron Kominski was Jack the Ripper
There is also the theory that H.H.Holmes was Jack the Ripper as there is evidence that he was in London at the time of the murders and returned to America right around the time they stopped. Also in of his ancestors says he has his diaries in which he describes the murders in great detail, but he wont let anybody actually look at it unless they pay him a lot of money, so....
I also saw a programe a few years ago saying Jack The Ripper was a sailor. His murders tied in with times a particular vessel was docked, and stopped when he went to the US (I can't remember which city) but a sailor who had been on this vessel docked in London during the Whitechapel murders was caught and executed in the US for carrying out identical murders. This was then used to explain why JTR never returned to killing in London.
Yeah that Dr Shipman thing and the Wests Fred and Rose were absolutely horrific when it came to light.
Can't believe Brady and Hindley aren't on this list though.
Ian Huntley is another that needs to be on the list, as well as Levi Bellfield.
As too does Robert Thompson and Jon Venables, who killed a toddler when they were both only 10 years old. Both have been in and out of prison several times since because of ch*ld ab*se... and they keep getting given new identities, moved to new areas, and they then carry out criminal activity again, so they get moved again and given fresh identities again.
Bronson though... scary yes, dangerous, yes.
Yet, spending over 50 years in jail... and he's never actually taken a life.
Bellfield is probably one of the worst for me
I'm glad you said bronson hadn't actually killed anyone, it's kinda sad he is so institutionalised he can't live outside prison walls successfully
Only Venables has been a regular partaker of porridge. Thompson has apparently kept his nose clean.
The answer to the “why in the 70s” question is generally forensic science advancements. Before that it was very much police just asking people what they’ve seen or heard. Advancements in microbiology made it possible to link murderers to victims purely from microfibre transactions which happen whenever people meet & come into contact with each other. So if you found a victim - as long as it was relatively recent, you’d get all kinds of dna transferences, microfibres, hair follicles, skin cuticles, etc.
There are quite a few others I would've had on this list in place of others. Great video. Loving videos by both you and Anna.
Interesting overview but there was really very little detail on most of these cases, and a few other notorious killers were left out. Really surprised Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, called "The Moors Murderers", were omitted from that video you watched. Their case is one of the most infamous in the UK.
If you enjoy documentaries about killers and the investigations into them, then some of those cases are worth finding out more about. There are documentaries about Shipman, Nilsen, the Krays, the Wests, the Moors Murderers and other high profile cases here on YT.
A longer list of notorious UK killers would also include: Beverley Allitt, Levi Bellfield, Robert Black, Burke and Hare, John Christie, Joanna Dennehy, Kenneth Erskine, John Haigh, Ian Huntley, Colin Ireland, Colin Pitchfork, Peter Tobin and Steven Wright. Also spree killers Derrick Bird, Thomas Hamilton and Michael Ryan who claimed several victims each, though on rampages not in serial killings.
Charles Bronson was just refused parole.
I was 5 when the Yorkshire Ripper was arrested, and 100 miles away from where he was operating. I can still remember the all pervading sense of fear that women felt.
Baby farming was really common in Victorian England. Some of the women genuinely did get better lives for the kids. Some just killed them. Amelia Dyer was not the only one, but she's the most prolific.
My husband used to hitchike as a teenager, in the early 80s. He's pretty sure he was offered a lift near London by Dennis Nilson, and refused it because something felt off about him.
Bronson got denied freedom and it forgets to mention that bronson actually has done alot while in solitary for the last 20+ years he's sold painting and all profits go to charity, he's raised thousands for a lot of charities actually,
Did JT ACTUALLY just accuse another RUclipsr of shouting and bursting his eardrums?!!!
lol
Surprised Jon venables isn’t on this list. He and his friend who I always forget his name took 2 year old Jamie burger from a shopping center, abused him and tied him to a train track and left him to die
This was when they were about 10 years old as well. He’s been put back inside multiple times since for possession of indecent images of kids as well
This happened in 1993 I think it was
Robert thompson Don't forget they pushed him in the canal to drown him they put battery's in his mouth threw bricks at him raped him threw blue paint in his eyes kicked him they dropped a 10kg fishplate on him he had over 42 injury to his body and only got sentenced to 8 years in a detention center not even prison they had a better life in there then they actually did at home
Robert Thompson was the other kid..
Jamie Bulger. Thompson and Venables killed him and then dumped his body on the tracks in order to make it look like he'd been hit by a train.
@Jermaine Anthony Thompson does seem to have kept his nose clean since being released, but Venables has been in and out of prison ever since, most often in regard to other child-related offences. You can read about it for yourself. I would agree with your main point that they wouldn't merit being in this top ten. There are other far more unworthy individuals who should be but aren't for some reason.
@Jermaine Anthony I would say that the deliberate abduction and killing of a toddler is a monstrous crime, and certainly on a par with some on this list. Anyone who might claim they were children themselves and didn't comprehend what they were doing should remember that they placed Jamie's body on the railway line hoping it would be destroyed by a train. They understood very well what they were doing.
That still doesn't mean I think they merit inclusion in a top ten, but would certainly be contenders if it were extended to fifteen or twenty.
Also missed was Ian Huntley who murdered Jessica and Holly 😢 And, Beverly Allit, a nurse who murdered babies 😢
My friend from work grew up next door to Fred and Rose West, he often used to climb in to their garden to retrieve his football when it went over the fence. He often claimed he was the only child to make it out of their garden alive.
You aren't the only ones who fall asleep to stories of crime and serial killers, the Mr. Ballen podcast is my defacto bedtime listening.
He's too woke for my tastes, I unsubscribed
parole was denied for Bronson.
The only reason they caught Shipman was the coroners office noticed his name coming up on signed documents over and over. Police followed up and found that one of his victims seemed to have left all to him in her will, but when they analysed the will and his own keyboard, the tiny imperfections on the strokes etc matched up.
Rumour has it that Fred West is my mates dad, He looks very similar and Fred West worked 16 miles from where I live in the early 70's, the plot thickens
I've lived near to a couple of these - and another notorious violent criminal.
Dr. Harold Shipman lived less than 100 yards from where I lived in Newton Aycliffe in the mid 70s - And Mary-Anne Cotton lived in West Auckland... the next village along from where I lived in Bishop Auckland (though obviously not at the same time)
Used to be an info board above the door of her old house, until the owner got sick of people knocking on the door to ask questions.
Also, a guy who became known as the M-25 trophy rapist - Antoni Imiela - Lived just round the corner from me in the early 70s, also in Newton Aycliffe.
He was a teenager when my group of friends were all 8/9 yrs old, but we all knew about him - he was a wrong-un even then - House/shop break-ins etc... And one time his sister became pregnant while still at school, him and his dad went looking for the b/f with a shotgun - luckily the Police found them before they caught up with the b/f.
He did prison time for armed robbery in the 80s, then went on his violent 'spree' in the early 2000s, a few yrs after getting out.
Before we got married, my husband and I lived together for a couple of years. When we were looking for somewhere to rent in Gloucester we checked out a flat in Cromwell street ! It wasn’t for us…..thank goodness! It turned out to be right opposite the West’s house and about 6 months later, the 💩 hit the fan and the whole world watched the horror unfold! What a lucky escape! Can you imagine living opposite with all that going on?! Love your videos and your love for the UK 😊
That road has a horrible eerie feel to it
when i was a child my dad was hitchhiking to Gloucester with me when we were picked up by someone who kept asking repeatedly my if he wanted to stop off and meet his wife . he thinks this was Fred west as he operated around our areas , He said he kept declining and felt very wierd how this guy kept asking in different ways .
Nope, they did not let Charles Bronson out, he is too institutionalized, and would not cope living in the real world 🤷🏻♂️
Fun fact, Harold shipman’s doctor’s surgery was about 3 miles away from where I live. Luckily none of my family members have ever been patients there! Used to walk passed where the surgery used to be all the time.
Another fun fact.. Peter Sutcliffe, aka the Yorkshire ripper. During his reign of terror, there were hoax tapes sent to the police saying they were the Yorkshire ripper, and it was a man with a Geordie accent. My parents, both Geordies moved down to Manchester (not too far from Yorkshire) around the same time. My dad, had black hair and black facial hair. Cos of the hoax tapes and looking the way he did, my dad was questioned over Sutcliffes crimes. No, my dad wasn’t called Peter!! It wasn’t him. But yeah, scary time for my parents.
I know, there's a guy in a glass box under a prison, who has no contact with anyone, he's so dangerous. Then the Moors Murderers were horrific.
Yes, we were more naive in the 70's. Plus there was no internet and different police didn't liaise with other police areas.
There's a great short drama series about Fred West called 'Appropriate Adult'. I recommend it.
Growing up in Leeds, we were all constantly afraid of the Yorkshire Ripper. One victim was found about 20 yards behind the local shops my Mum used, we were there maybe 2/3 times a week! This was literally in our back yard. All girls were told how to observe and be careful wherever we went. I even took to stealing a small kitchen knife from my Mum and carrying it in my pocket. I think a lot of other people did too. The body near us was a student and was the first victim who wasn't a prostitute. That's when we all became afraid, before that, everyone assumed they weren't at risk, and the killings were always in bad areas. Suddenly it moved to a polite suburban studenty area, and all bets were off. :/
So you were on the game back then. How much did you charge?
I grew up in a small town just south of the Humber Bridge. My dad was a truck driver with thick black hair and a similar coloured beard. I remember one dark January early evening when the police knocked on our door. They asked my dad a few questions, looking for a truck driver, of appropriate age, sporting thick black hair and beard.
I know West Yorkshire Police have attracted much criticism over this Yorkshire Ripper affair, but in `scanning` every truck driver within 80 miles of Leeds seems to me that they put in an effort.
I can`t remember the exact details concerning the critisism. Maybe they were criticised for their Intelligence. I mean the gathering of Intelligence that would eventually lead to Sutcliff`s arrest and conviction.
I see my dad once a week - on a Monday - when I have a day off and we catch up over a few pints. I`ll ask him tomorrow if he can remeber any questions asked of him. It`s not the kind of questioning one woud easily forget.
My dad decided that it would be a good time to visit relatives in county Durham at the time that he was prevalent. I remember there were armed soldiers patrolling the streets.
my grandma knew him he used to go to same pub she did haha
@@garibaldi54 Ohhh, yes, they thought he had a North-East accent, didn't they?! But that part was a hoax :/
My Nan, who is 94, comes from the same area of London as the Kray twins and remembers them well. She always said they had to avoid a certain area of theirs that they ruled 😂 must have been scary.
Also, I looooove Bailey Sarian. She's amazing ❤
I listen to Bailey every night
Scary doesnt even come close
My godfather used to be a prison guard who was assigned to guard Reggie. He said he was very polite and made a very good cup of tea.
@@lucyfur I heard they were very polite, quite surprising really considering how feared they were 😂
@@Naturally3m0 I dunno, I think people who can maintain their manners while doing horrendous things are more scary than people who shout and swear. There is a certain coldness to being able to do that.
Harold Shipman was a doctor in my hometown in the early days of his career, and when I used to present quizzes I had a tie-breaker about Mary Ann Cotton who lived around ten miles away they even made a TV drama about her called Dark Angel in 2016
I like the way you talk about the ‘70s like people in 70’s and 80’s talked about the 1950’s.
Hanged not hung.
Thank you only I get bored telling people that.
The noise in the background is annoying
Baby farming occurred in the USA too.
The tape Amelia Dyre used “tape” which was like ribbon/string. You would use it to tie up parcels and similar stuff
In 1981 The Yorkshire Ripper was locked up in the police cells in Dewsbury West Yorkshire where i live.
The UK is dangerous, huh?
We don't live in fear of our neighbours here.
Jt the tom hardy movie legend about the kray twins is shit
Their is a movie called. the krays made in 1990. That version is better
It stars Gary and Martin Kemp as the twins. Its on RUclips in its entirety check it out
I love the fact that u have given Maggie a middle name! Im so so glad im not the only 1 to do this! Currently, dog wise, we just have Georgia May, as her brother died last July. He was Otis John. Of course they have/nicknames too for when they're being good, but if they are misbehaving, they get called by they full names! Lol! 😂😂
Rumor has it that Harold Shipman did NOT HANG HIMSELF
not me getting an ad from remitely after the baby farming story saying “send money internationally” 😀
Dr Crippen should have been on the list although I think he was an American citizen who committed the murder of his wife dismembered her and only her torso was recovered . He was the first person to be apprehended because of the wireless telegraph as he and his lover tried to escape on board a ship to Canada.
They were captured taken back to Britain and he was hung.
One fact with Peter Sutcliffe, at a time when police didn't know who he was they began interviewing people who matched his description and who was in the area they believed him to be. My grandfather turned out to be one of those people my gran remembers having to leave the room whilst police questioned him. Granted loads of others were too but that's always cool for me to think my grandfather resembled that guy
A while ago I read Peter Hook's book about Joy Division. At the height of the ripper murders in 1979 the band were still playing a lot of clubs which happened to be in red light districts. Peter drove the van with the gear in, and one night the police knocked on his door to interview him about the case. Obviously they needed to eliminate him from the inquiry, but that must have been pretty scary.
Charles Bronson was in court only a few weeks ago, yes, the end of March 2023!! He was denied parole, again.
In the UK today ... if someone knocks on your door "you just answer the door"
The Yorkshire Ripper died recently in prison. Charles Bronson was refused parole this year.
Martin and Gary Kemp from Spandau Ballet played the Kray Twins before Tom Hardy.
5:54 In UK we don't go out to get mail...we have a letter box in the front door and mail is put through that
Tom hardy himself is old school British, bare knuckle fighting, gangs of London, you can see in his eyes in some interviews when he’s asked stupid questions what he really feels about that person. I wouldn’t want to piss him off at all, well unless you want a beating.
Can’t fault him on getting away from that scene into acting though. But you can tell it’s still buried in him.
Bare knuckle fighter? Don't think so, you do know he's a little bit gay.
I'm from Yorkshire and wasn't allowed out after dark during the ripper times.
Bronson had parole board meeting in march 2023 , they refused his plea , hes still behind bars
The Amelia Dyer one fails to mention that it was happening in the mid 1800s. Baby farming was a thing, but we’re talking a good 200 years ago
Charles Salvador was denied parole again this year
I'm into true crime as well and have read several books on serial killers.
The best one for me was the book about Bob Berdella. It was written by one of the detectives on the case I think, and you don't find out how he disposed of the bodies until the end. I was imagining all the ways he got rid of the bodies throughout reading the book but when I found out, at the end, I was shocked. 😲
I won't say any more in case you want to read the book, but if you are into true crime books, I can't recommend the one about Bob Berdella highly enough. It's a great read.
He's American
At the time when Peter Sutcliffe was on his killing spree we lived in an area of Leeds called Headingley. One of his victims was found at the Arndale Centre, which is a couple of minutes from where we lived. There was also an attempted murder of a female at the top of our street, which was labelled as him doing it but was never proved. At the time, male police officers would dress up as women and walk the streets to try and lure him out, there was also police checkpoints everywhere to try and catch him. They actually did have him in police custody once, but he was released....
In the photo of the crossbow cannibal. The building behind him is Bradford City Hall. I am from Bradford and if you are meeting someone that's we're we meet. The strange thing is that Peter Sutcliffe, crossbow cannibal and the black panther. Who murdered postoffice staff and kidnapped women. All came from Bradford. Also John Christie from nearby Halifax. His wife was born in Bradford.
Charles Bronson, was denied parole in March 2023.
I live in the same city as Mary Ann Cotton, theres a good tv show of late came out about her called Dark Angel, well worth a watch. Theres also rhymes we used to sing about her as ghost stories at school infront of the mirror 😂 "Mary Ann Cotton, she’s dead and she’s rotten. Lying in bed with her eyes wide open. Sing, sing, oh what should I sing? Mary Ann Cotton, she’s tied up with string. Where, where? Up in the air. Selling black puddings, a penny a pair.”
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They found Amelia Dyer out since one of the babies were wrapped in one of her packages with her address on. She didn't start killing them till later on since mothers would be checking up on their babies, it wasn't just adoption but also a monthly payment of baby sitting for mums with over time jobs they could be working far away, they may even have to sleep at work. there was a lot more to it. really sad stuff
Such an American thing to say - "if somebody knocked on your door you just answered the door" & "you always make sure your doors a re locked" - Our doors in Wales are only locked if we go out or when we're all in bed, if any one of us is up and awake the door is open.
Hey! Could you guys do a reaction to broadmoor hospital? Charles bronson and the kray twins spent some time there. I have walked around the outside of the hospital a few times and the feeling you get when you are there is very creepy! Love you guys content, love from 🏴
My whole family come from Fulham, London, my uncle was a runner for the Krays, used to collect money and parcels for them, he also was a driver for another London criminal not mentioned here, called John Bindon, him and my uncle when they were teens used to always get put into lock ups, like young offenders institutes, but my uncle was a wizard with locks and used to break them out all the time. My dad was also best friends with John Bindon as they were neighbours from when they were kids, they got up to some serious stuff, my dad saying the only thing that saved him from 'being a right bastard' was my mum, who he met when he was 16. John Bindon turned to acting and was in the film 'Get Carter' with Michael Cane amongst others. He turned up to one of my parents many parties with Richard Harris, Dumbledore from Harry Potter, he just sat in the corner and got very drunk on 100% whiskey. I could tell you a lot of stories, especially where John Bindon was when he went on the run and disappeared for 3 days and turned up in Ireland, to this day nobody knows where he went for those missing 3 days....I do.
My nan was somebody who narrowly avoided the Yorkshire ripper when walking home from work late at night, terrifying to think about
What about the Acid Bath murderer? Or John Christie? Or Beverly Allitt? There's so many...😬
I think the creepiest on this list (and thus deserve a higher placing) are Harold Shipman (the dr) and Fred and Rosemary West. Chills go down my spine whenever I hear them mentioned.
Jack the Ripper story - Not all the women he murdered were prostitutes, some were just homeless, that was the medias fault for telling people they were all prostitutes. The book FIVE is a really good book that goes into the history of each woman. Also there is a solid theory that there wasn't one person that was responsible for these murders or that the organs were removed where the bodies were found, they were slashed yes but the organs were removed in the morgue and sold to the highest bidder, surgeons would pay a lot of money for women's organs at that time. To cover up the wrong doings, The Ripper was invented and he media went with it.
My dad worked in yorkshire and was questioned by police as he looked very much like Peter Sutcliffe !
The Richardson Gang watching this from hell like "were we a joke to you"? Can't believe the Kray's made it but the Richardson's didn't.
Beverley Allitt, Bradey and Hindley, Steve Wright (lorry driver - not the radio DJ), Robert Black, John Christie are all names that should probably be on this list.
Peter Sutcliff died fairly recently, and Charles Bronson, in the last month or so lost his request for parole... again!
Allitt, and Lucy Letby (Lucy is currently on trial) are particularly unpleasant, as their victims were new-born babies and (for Allitt) young children in hospital where they were nurses.
To be honest, Charlie Bronson is quite an interesting figure. I’d highly recommend watching the film. I believe it is called just Bronson obviously starring Tom Hardy