The BEST Calibration Method Just Got BETTER

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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    The calibration flower, now known as Califlower, also the best calibration ever, has been really popular and also really successful in helping lots of people to calibrate or validate the XY size and skew of their 3D printer and it just got even better. In this video, I cover all the updates to the design of the STL and calculator since it was made. There are loads of improvements so hopefully, we can help everyone with this simple calibration method.
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Комментарии • 78

  • @Vector3DP
    @Vector3DP  2 года назад +21

    FYI: I mention in the video that there are no instructions, that's WRONG, there are instructions, really good written ones are included.
    Also, for those that have bought previously, you can login with the same email you used to purchase and you'll be able to get the latest version.
    One more thing, it looks like CURA now has per-material shrinkage compensation in the latest Beta version so I'll be sure to make a new update for that. (upgrades are free)
    Merry Calibration, and Happy Printing!

    • @curtisevans7344
      @curtisevans7344 Год назад

      i am having some issues with your website, i cant get the captia to show up to request help with this. i bought the original and cant access my account to update is there a better way of getting in touch with you about this?

    • @TheLordinio
      @TheLordinio Год назад +2

      got the calibration flower today, in order to use it to calibrate materials that crystallize when annealing and as such shrink significantly. would be really cool to add features to calibrate in Z direction too for these materials

    • @zola5584
      @zola5584 Год назад +3

      why the model this expensive, this price a bit pricie

  • @sonicdudemgvids3451
    @sonicdudemgvids3451 2 года назад +13

    Percentage compensation in cura is actually on a material basis. You can add it to material settings and put it for the material you are using. You just have to add it as an option.

  • @sandrolauer350
    @sandrolauer350 2 года назад +13

    @Vector3D: Kind remark from an mechanical engineer: please don't advise calibrating machine settings on material base. Steps per mm should be calibrated with calipers, not with an actual print, because of the dependency of material flow, extrusion temperature and fan speed causing shrinking, with ABS shrinking in general... You get the point.
    I love your Califlower for material settings calibration though. Good job 👍 🙂

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад

      From the start it was always for shrinkage and skew. But some people can't integrate shrinkage well, so steps/mm is just for them really.

  • @mrCetus
    @mrCetus 2 года назад +2

    I have been using the Califlower to commission my E3D TC. Incredibly helpful! And thanks for the tip on line thickness, I think it explains my slight discrepancy between internal/external measurements.

  • @stvcolwill
    @stvcolwill 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks so much for this video and calibration method. You've put in a lot of time and thought and testing into this. Kudos and hats off to you my good sir! I'm printing the first one now!

  • @billychampy316
    @billychampy316 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great work my friend. Very cool, I will try your new Califlower 👍

  • @andrewlee4102
    @andrewlee4102 6 дней назад

    Fixed my dimensional accuracy issues on my BambuLabs P1S, Thank You!

  • @farnaby13
    @farnaby13 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your work on this.

  • @johnbeima6413
    @johnbeima6413 2 года назад +12

    The Overhang & Bridging stls were/are extremely helpful. :) The overhang test helped nicely to set SuperSlice’s angle for overhangs as well as to see where cooling lacks. The bridging was a nice simple test. Sometimes all the really fancy ones just over complicate things. These were two simple stls that worked just so nicely. It will be disappointing to no longer have them included in our package updates. Sure they may lack the extra docs, but sometimes a simple stl is nice to have. :)

    • @Slavfot
      @Slavfot 2 года назад +2

      I bought the califlower a couple of days ago and did not get the overhang and bridging stls. I would love to have those. Is there any way to get these now?

  • @panInformator
    @panInformator Год назад +1

    Hi! Thanks for amazing work on XY calibration. Do you have a solution for Z calibration as well?

  • @karlos9371
    @karlos9371 2 года назад +1

    You appear to have all the information needed from inner and outer measurements. Is it possible to add extrusion multiplier adjustment calculation too?

  • @PhilipHollowaychannel
    @PhilipHollowaychannel Год назад

    Can I use this on the ender 3 S1 pro. I use Cura as the splicer.

  • @bravenkind7843
    @bravenkind7843 Год назад

    Thanks so much for your work on this! I bought the calibration flower from the link on the old video. Is it the same product?

  • @RhapsodyInBlaah
    @RhapsodyInBlaah 2 года назад

    Sorry if this is addressed elsewhere, but can this be used with a Prusa Mk 3? I bought it before I remembered there might be firmware issues.

  • @nmavor
    @nmavor 2 года назад +3

    how about PLA vs ABS ?
    is I'm using ABS do I need to resize it by 100.5% ?

  • @daimhinm
    @daimhinm 2 года назад +3

    Would be cool if you added a solid base layer so you could use the multitude of Califlowers printed as drink coasters.

  • @tinyfluffs
    @tinyfluffs 2 года назад +2

    Might make a Califlower coaster holder for the new apartment xD

  • @matthiasreisenauer3176
    @matthiasreisenauer3176 Год назад

    But still the same question like an CR-30 you cant really use your test would you like to improve it also for it ?

  • @Milfeldt
    @Milfeldt 2 года назад +2

    I'm happy 😁 Got XY down to 0,01 -0,01. and skew I/O to 0,00 -0,01
    Before calibration they were -0,3 -0,4 and -0,4 - 0,27

  • @CTZN1
    @CTZN1 2 месяца назад

    i have question, thinking to buy this but i got questions need to answered.
    1. Does it applicable to my printer, ender 3 v2? because the website mentions prusa and prusa, makes me think oh this only for prusa?
    2. how do i input the correction into cura? especially the X Y errors?

  • @StargateNeo
    @StargateNeo 2 года назад +3

    All for the community 💸

  • @HoffmanTactical
    @HoffmanTactical Год назад +1

    This is super cool.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  Год назад +2

      Thanks 😊 I think so too!

  • @x_jaydn
    @x_jaydn Год назад +1

    Hey Vector 3D, if we've purchased the old Calibration Flower v7, will we have inclusive access of the new Califlower? 🤔

  • @smittery
    @smittery 2 года назад +2

    Note about Cura, the 5.1 beta DOES have shrink compensation for specific materials now.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад +1

      Oh that's good 👌

  • @BinaryDisastr
    @BinaryDisastr Месяц назад

    You mentioned Pursa Slicer and Cura. Is this something that would be worth while for a Bambu? Namely PS1?

  • @cgrosbeck
    @cgrosbeck Год назад

    So ESteps and flow needs to be done prior to printing the Califlower. Altow through my understanding in the video it works to a center line.

  • @c3h4organic97
    @c3h4organic97 2 года назад

    Just have the email of the purchase but no account to download the new version. Where do I get it?

    • @boleslawciesielski6199
      @boleslawciesielski6199 2 года назад +1

      Click on "My account" and then "Lost your password". It will send you e-mail to reset the password. After you do this, log in and the files should be there in the Downloads section.

  • @devilik3692
    @devilik3692 Год назад +1

    thing is with rotation distance in klipper it specifically tells you that numbers should be whole

  • @davidbucek
    @davidbucek Год назад

    You cant set % shinkage per material in Prusaslicer but you can set it in Superslicer! :)

  • @Wittmason
    @Wittmason 2 месяца назад

    Does anyone know if this is useful for calibrating a delta 3d printer? Has anyone actually done it before?

  • @legacyofbob
    @legacyofbob 2 года назад +1

    Maybe this was addressed in the video but I missed it, but is this only for Marlin? Is there skew correction for RRF/Klipper as well?

    • @woodwaker1
      @woodwaker1 2 года назад +1

      He has it for Klipper and Rep Rap

    • @legacyofbob
      @legacyofbob 2 года назад

      @@woodwaker1 thanks!

    • @woodwaker1
      @woodwaker1 2 года назад

      @@legacyofbob I just purchased the files , seems like a inexpensive solution if it helps at all. It's in my project Que.

  • @icanthelplt9061
    @icanthelplt9061 2 года назад

    I literally just bought this like 4 days ago lol and now you changed it. I think i got the new one though as it has step/mm in it?

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад +1

      Yep, it's been there about a week. You get all updates free anyway though so don't worry :)

  • @jscancella
    @jscancella 2 года назад

    Are the updates free to those who have already bought the calibration flower previously?

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад +8

      Yes, for those that already purchased, you should already see these files available to you. Just need to login and download.

  • @hansdampft561
    @hansdampft561 2 года назад +1

    Can you please offer other payment options? I tried to by calibration test method from your store but my EU Visa card was not acctepted!

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад

      Stripe accepts all cards AFAIK so if it failed it was for another reason. PayPal is also available though.

    • @hansdampft561
      @hansdampft561 2 года назад +3

      @@Vector3DP Thank you very much! I have bought 2 because I think 5 pound is a a little to cheap for the time and effort you you invested!!

  • @willl84
    @willl84 Год назад

    So if we bought the last one is this update free?

  • @VagabondTE
    @VagabondTE Год назад

    I know this is a completely different type of programming and probably not even possible.. but is there anyway to write an app that can take these measurements from a picture? With like, a quarter also in the picture?
    Considering the amount of recalibration that 3D printers generally need, even an app with ads should generate enough revenue to approach an app programmer.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  Год назад +3

      I think we're a long way from a camera being good enough to capture the resolution needed for this level of calibration.

    • @smittery
      @smittery Год назад

      Yeah, these size measurements would be VERY difficult to catch on a standard camera, what with perspective and lens distortions and everything else.
      HOWEVER, your idea isn't far off for structured blue light scanning (revopoint pop mini) or lidar (Bambu X1), and the califlower+included methodology may be a good baseline for making the tuning tooling that pair with those emerging technologies to dial-in the crap out of future printers.

  • @BIEDZ_RCz
    @BIEDZ_RCz Месяц назад

    I've printed this multiple times, and I cannot get the skew to 100. One side is always over 100 and the other side is always under 100, any tips? What am I doing wrong? Thank you!

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  Месяц назад +1

      You're unlikely to get it perfect, there's no such thing as perfect when it comes to manufacturing. You should be able to get close though.

    • @BIEDZ_RCz
      @BIEDZ_RCz Месяц назад

      @@Vector3DP ya, I understand that, but I was getting it around 100.6 and 99.6, then when I tried it again, I got somewhere around 101 and 99 I think, I can't get it anywhere close to 100 though.

  • @paulmenzel2884
    @paulmenzel2884 Год назад

    I found this interesting enough I had to reverse engineer it myself. couple things: a) Skew the Marlin AD distance, 100*2^-0.5, doesn't that need to be scaled? That is the perfect value and the AC and BD are in a scaled space. b) if the Avg X Error and Avg Y Error are different wouldn't that indicate one of the axis has its Step/mm off. I'd expect them to be the same if only material shrinkage was at play. c) seems to me flow compensation could be calculated. Scale the measurements by the Shrinkage / Step/mm Then calculate the Inner/Outer Error off the new values. d) If you know Skew setting for a set of measurements. The new value is just the sum of the measured angle and the prints skew setting angle.

  • @pdzed
    @pdzed 2 года назад +2

    CaliCoaster?

  • @the_futur1st
    @the_futur1st 2 года назад

    I have bought a califlower a couple days ago. Unfortunately i did not create an account. The tip above "go to My account and click reset password", does not work. The system throws the error message "Invalid username or email". Is there any way to update my califlower to the latest versions?
    A little proposal, as you mentioned in the video a califlower can shows us underextrusion and overextrusion cases, it would be easy to add the field for starting flow number and calculate an assumption flow value to minimize this error.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад

      YT comments not the best place for support, but just make you use the same email you purchased with.

  • @TommiHonkonen
    @TommiHonkonen 2 года назад +2

    you could call it calicoaster

  • @darren990
    @darren990 2 года назад +1

    So how do you use it lol

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад +1

      Check the first video, or the instructions that come with it.

  • @gnydick
    @gnydick 2 года назад +2

    Aren't fillets worse?

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  2 года назад +3

      Fillets are best on the XY plane, chamfers tend to be better everywhere else.

  • @megaobi
    @megaobi 2 года назад

    this is fnatastic!

  • @AbruptAbacot
    @AbruptAbacot Год назад

    Califlower? Mmm gotta love that OG indoor. Don't ship this across state lines folks. You wouldn't download a weed👁

  • @AndrewGillard
    @AndrewGillard Год назад

    It looks like RUclips is now auto-generating chapters from on-screen titles and it's thoroughly confused by your animation :D
    L Explanations 7
    L Iteration 7
    😹

  • @odyss160
    @odyss160 Год назад +1

    looks more like a waffle

  • @MisterkeTube
    @MisterkeTube Год назад +12

    I'm probably going to be labeled a cheapskate for this remark, but I'm going to state it anyway (probably because I am a cheapskate): if you want this to replace calibration cubes, then make it free!

    • @nakwadroid
      @nakwadroid Год назад +2

      I second this!

    • @mochmaster45
      @mochmaster45 Год назад +4

      I would say make the stl free but add an option to buy the spreadsheet that auto-calculates for you.

    • @stvcolwill
      @stvcolwill 6 месяцев назад +5

      honestly, and I don't mean any shade, but I humbly think you're missing the point. it's not that you're a cheapskate. I see it that it's worth way more than the money charged because it saves me time and I'm getting a huge bargain on all the time and effort and skills this man has put into this project. If you were truly a cheapskate, you could create this yourself easily and negate having to pay. I haven't seen any other calibration that tells me this much information which is also laid out so straight forward and simply. I was literally in the process of setting up my own inner and outer measurements thingy when I stumbled on this man's project. So, so, so worth it. Again, I mean no disrespect brother!

    • @jamy6431
      @jamy6431 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, if the product pays for itself then it's a net positive and is actually saving you money.

  • @dr_gotheem3899
    @dr_gotheem3899 2 года назад

    I have been using the Califlower to commission my E3D TC. Incredibly helpful! And thanks for the tip on line thickness, I think it explains my slight discrepancy between internal/external measurements.