One calibration print that you shouldn’t skip
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Calilantern is a calibration object and calculator designed for improving size and skew for more accurate 3D prints.
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I used the original CaliFlower to calibrate/tune my E3D tool changer and it helped immensely! Now time to test with the Calilantern 😎
just wanted to say thankyou for this. ive always had my printer pretty good, but its the best its ever been in terms of dimensional accuracy. thankyou again.
Love it! My Ender 3 had a starting calibration score of 189, but after a couple of round of adjustments it’s up to 758. In addition to the cal values that this produces, the measurements uncovered and fix a few physical problems on my printer (z axis backlash in my case).
THANK YOU for your efforts and contributions!! The documentation appears sterling. One detail that is oft ignored and/or neglected. I will take advantage of this. Again, THANKS!!
It is not so easy so measure it perfectly and to be always perpendicular. Also the amount of slight pressure on the calliper changes the values. But it worked at the end and I saw how good the raise3d pro3 from factory was. 700 points but after calibration I got 980. so nearly perfect… thanks
i hope this one works out better than the flat one. i had a heck of a time because i was doing iterations and things were turning out random.
but i was smart and saved my default settings so i could start over.
The points 9 and 10 were a bit complex for me. The images were not clear enough that I had to measure it with the internal part and not with the external part that is part of the base. Maybe a video or RUclips short of how to measure the most complex points would be a great idea for people like me.
But I can ensure that your method is by far the best and more complete. That is why I bought it (even not being super cheap for me, I am Argentinian and it cost around 3 thousands pesos after all the taxes we have to pay for things in another currency, but still not expensive ) and I can recommend it. Great tools for people like me who loves tinkering and fine tunning my machine.
Keep the good work!
I was about to use the original model but I thought I’d check the channel for updates, so I’ll be using this one instead.
Maybe it’s a cali-present?
carl the blind man.
i didn't see this one, will buy it.
great one
billion times more better than race boat or cube for calibration
Excellent contribution to the community!
If any of the measurements confuse anyone, go to 2:47 and pause to go frame by frame using , and .
You can watch him do each measurement 3 times and track through until he gets to the one you need to see.
Just bought the files, thanks for the discount code. Looking forward to see how much more I can get my V2.4R2 dialed in!
Pass the files
Many years ago (about 10+) when i had my first printer, the wooden Replicator Dual i squared and trammed it out but found my prints to be slightly off in X/Y so i simply tightened the belt until was able to jog the head and measure the difference with my caliper. I found if i did the same measurement starting from the other end it would be off by a bit, in which i learned the dimensional relationship between the stepper motor and the closest link to the tool head. And it changes between enclosed and open prints (ABS or PLA, etc)
I would recommend printing out one of those belt tension tools in petg, just to get a relative position on the tension your adjusting
It worked great, thanks for the supper tool, I configured my Sovol SV07 without any problems!
2:40 I swear you were calling me out on this one haha
Haha, don't worry, you weren't the only one!
Measuring anything that is inner such 16, 18, 20 or 22 seems impossible. The measurements are all over the place.
That looks pretty nice 👍
May it be possible that you could do a video on how to tune Bridging? I have major issues with bridging but can't quit work it out on how to tune it better
Also on YT i didn't find any really useful Videos about this.
Would be very awesome if you could do one 🫡😊
Thank you very much for all the work and effort put into this tool.
You have indeed given an important contribution to the 3D printing community throughout the years.
I just bought this tool as a token of my appreciation.
Many thanks!
Hey mate, just bought a copy of this. :) It's a neat concept. I forgot to save my calibration data when I reformatted my PC and really don't feel like doing all these little steps manually again. x.x It was a pain in the butt last time... I'm hoping this makes the process a bit easier. ^.^ Cheers!
First of all I want to say I admire your content. I have lots of questions about what you are showing here, I hope does not come out wrong.
1. Say you were to change your printing parameters like line width or anything flow related, would you need to redo the part for these settings? Holes and corners will look differently.
2. How about nozzle diameter?
3. I am quite sure you will need to do this for every type (PLA, ABS, ASA, PA...) of filament. Did you notice differences in same type of Filament (e.g. ABS) from different manufacturers or even colors? I sometimes see differences even between batches of the same brand because the raw material has changed. This is not too common though.
4. As I understand, you make the changes in the firmware. Can you set different materials there? Or would it be better set in the slicer for different types of filament?
Either way, this looks so interesting I'm just gonna buy 🙂
Pretty much all of those questions are answered in the manual 👌 for the nozzle, you shouldn't need to redo it, but I've not tested that.
@@Vector3DP that's perfect, will take a look today, thanks ☺️
Dude... I'm willing to fork some cash over, work needs to be payed, however:
Make a bundle with both Califlower and Calilantern for £10 and it's a deal.
Yes, I'm a cheapskate. Call it haggling 😝 Still, a bundle would be a good idea.
Maybe then I get that Ender 3, banana edition to print something resembling a circle...
I wish there was a "upgrade" price for existing buyers of the original CaliFlower :(
I've printed and measured, but I am confused on the instructions from there. Printed using Anycubic Kobra Max sliced in Cura. After filling outt the sheet the adjustments I am to make are
1. Modifying firmware for SKEW
2. Material Shrinkage in Cura (combines XY)
And that's all?
or add 3. Steps/Axis part scaling
I can add the material shrinkage values in Cura and modify firmware, but if my Internal measurements are off my -0.27% and external by -0.03% then this will likely just decrease the internal error and increase the external error. Would I then Adjust horizontal expansion? what if it is different between X and Y axis? My XY skew was negligible, but my X axis was far more off than my Y and all internal measurements were all more undersized than the external measurements. Any help would be great
Nice work! Looking forward to try the Calilantern on the X1.
Hi @Vector3DP can i complete your Calilantern calibration instruction for anycubic cobra 2 (vulcano extr)? Because its not marlin or klipper.... 4:17
Thank you for your hard work, I bought the califlower. Great work!
Gotta say you’re cracking me up tho! 😂 I like that
Hello, I just recently bought your older design which I have not tried as yet. It’s not even been a week. Can you please help with an exchange the stl please? 🙏
you should introduce an iterative method
Calilantern latest version has an iterative method 😀
do you have a way to purchase without having to provided personal information? Your personal data will be used to process your order, support your experience throughout this website, and for other purposes described in our privacy policy. I don't care to provide that information. but would like to purchase your calibration print.
Great video, thanks 👍
Hey Adam, do you plan on making a simpler/smaller one specifically for xyz shrinkage?
Would this help for filament specific tuning?
My pla prints perfect but when I swap to CFnylon the same file doesn’t print the items accurate enough that fit together, like the pla does. Is this what I’d use to tune the filament settings?
Is this suitable well for delta printers ?
Y when there are tons of calibration prints for free
check out my original califlower video, that should help explain why this is needed.
The video model is different from the one currently available, is it possible to calibrate the Z axis for the corexz with the new model? Both diagonal compensation and rotation_distance?
Vetical skew planes can be calibrated. Z Axis scale doesn't need calibration.
EDIT: It turns out that I was not doing anything wrong, but rather there was a problem with the calculator itself. Thankfully Adam was made aware of this and is working on a fix. Still a bit of a bummer with the wasted time but I guess that its just my luck that the calculator broke right around the time that I bought it lol
I have no idea why but my score is still worse than baseline after 4 calibrations. I always double check that I am measuring in the correct location, I make sure that my calipers are square with the print and use little pressure to not squish the part. I update the next sheet with skew settings I got previously. My score went down from 443 baseline to 283, I feel like I'm just wasting filament and time at this point...
@Vector3D is this Excell only or work it also in Libre Office/ google Docs?
How do you complementare for different filaments shrinkage?
I just bought the Calilantern... Should it take 6 hours to print on an ender3?? thats a long time for one test print.
I mean, yeah. Any printer with a screw based z axis is famously known for being slow in z. As the calilantern is very high and mostly consisting of perimeters it's slow as hell, but it's needed for calibrating z. If you'd like to omit z calibration for the sake of print time the califlower is your friend.
The item together with Excel spreadsheet doesn't worth the money if you use RRF. Do not waste time and money.
I bought the item. I 3d printed it . I measured it several times. I adjusted the parameters in the printer configuration. I re-printed with new parameters. I measured again and the excel files tells me that the printer is more skewed than before. I am using duet3d board with RRF . There is a mistake in the calculations in the excel form. Also to take proper measurements on the diagonals is a PITA.
Hi Florin, Lots of people have had success with this. If you want to join the discord it'll be easier for me to help you there.
@@Vector3DP I'm very confident that your skew calculator flipped the AC and BD measurements. If i punch in the recommended skew numbers into klipper and then ask klipper console to output with GET_CURRENT_SKEW it will spit out the reverse (flipped sign convention). it's possible my printer is dumb but it took me a few prints to figure out why it was getting worse each time.
What's the appropriate slicing tolerance setting (in Cura, I'm not sure what the equivalent setting is in other slicers) for this print? Middle? Some of the designs I print need exclusive mode to fit properly, and I don't want to tune out the slight space between parts that that introduces.
Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I think exclusive is the right setting for this, though it's unlikely to make a huge difference. Other slicing tolerance options will add a tiny amount to the measurements against the outer walls. Slicing tolerance is a constant difference regardless of the object size though, so it's unlikely to matter at all for a larger print like this. Which mode is used for the calibration is also unlikely to affect the fit of different slicing tolerances for small parts.
That's my best guess. I'd love to hear others' opinions though.
Will axis Rotation distance calibration distance work on corexy printers?
Oh man, now im dirty I just bought the old calibration...and now supposed to fork over more for this ?
what are recommended infill and permiters?
When measuring 9 and 10 do I measure at an angle or to the bottom straight part. The instruction isn't clear on it bcz there is a piece which is comming out.
skew_correction: improperly formatted entry for plane [XY]
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Hi did you read my question?
looks like a crown
Will this work for an Ender 3 v2?
I live in Mexico and can't even buy this. lol
Also, i have a bambulab... do i benefit from the extra-calculations?
proprietary firmware and such...
I bought it, printed it, and now I'm trying to measure it and I'm noticing that the documentation says all the measurements (except verticals) should be about 100mm... Whole sculpture, as sliced with Cure and printed, is only approximately 120mm x 120mm. Am I missing something important here?
Yes. 😁
@@Vector3DP Ok, found my mistake, was trying to measure along the lines defining where to measure from for each number, instead of realizing that was one of a pair of lines to measure between.
Bought and printed. Will measure soon
i this meant to use alternatevily to extrusion tuning, pressure advance etc?
No, this is for skew and size calibration.
@@Vector3DP ok so I have to do the other tunings before?
I would love to try it, but I find it too expensive.
For those of us who have a 3D printer as a hobby, 10€ for the model is too much. I understand that it takes a lot of work in the studio to make it, but I think at a lower price it would sell a lot more units, which would cover that price drop.
my two cents
I disagree. And it's not just a model - it's a comprehensive guide, a model, and a calculating spreadsheet that collects the measurements, analyzes them, and provides updated parameters for common versions of printer firmware and slicers. It would likely have taken me a couple of days or more to develop this even for just my own printing tool set.
Thanks but no thanks. I love your califlower and use it on all my material. I hope you continue improving it. If it takes longer to print and measure, its definitively not an improvement.
But it does kind of 3x more as well as being iterative. If you find califlower useful, you'll probably find this even more useful. Up to you though.
For some, the goal is final accuracy. This will help achieve that.
@@float32 I've been printing engineering parts since 2015. You need to calibrate and measure the hell out of your printer. Totally agree. Califlower takes care of speeding up the XY compensation very efficiently. If there are issues in skew and Z in your printer, you need to take care of it. You don't need a calilentern and 3h for this.
@Vector 3D i bought this and was wondering if the cauliflower come with it? I didn't see it. Only reason is because sometimes I'm lazy and just want to do a quick check before committing to a 3 hour print and 3 times more measurements lol
Recommended for Ratrig V-Minion?
Obviously I'm biased, but yes.
@@Vector3DP 😂
This is just overkill dude.
If you’re printing decorative things, sure. If you’re printing something functional that needs to be a precise size, then definitely not overkill.
No this is exactly perfect
This is only overkill if you don't care about repeatability and precision.
For those that print objects that interface with real world items precision and accuracy matters
wouldnt flow and temp affect the accuracy of the test ?