Eliminating brush marks. (5 Minute Handyman) Painting tips and tricks!
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2017
- 5 Minute Handyman gives tips and tricks on avoiding those ugly brush strokes. When you are painting with a brush it is important to be aware of the amount of paint on your brush and the direction of the lighting so that you can provide pro results as you transition from brush cutting to roller painting of the wall.
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I've been painting my own houses for 40+ years and I still appreciate any tips that people will share on RUclips and other places. It's also all about new products constantly coming into the industry. As they say, you're never too old to learn, although some are too old to listen! Thanks to everyone for sharing their own ideas and techniques. I believe that we all improve by checking all these things out!
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roguedemon100... greetings.
Agreed.
Have a great day.
Damn it's taken you 40 years to paint a house? Sheesh
@@tehfuqizg0inon588 Well, we can't rush these things! 🤣😅
As a professional painter, I tape off all my trim with Frog tape for laser sharp lines anyway. Run a semi dry brush along the tape really quick to activate the tape then use a 3/8" mini roller to "cut" in everything. So there literally are zero brush marks. When doing 2 coats its faster than trying to cut in twice. And for a DIYer masking with Frog tape is going to give a much better look.
Using tape on trim just hides the paint that gets under the tape until it is dry. It also wastes a huge amount of time.
Just cut in and use a rag to wipe off any paint that gets on the trim.
@@MAGAMAN Dry brushing Frog Tape helps activate the glue so you get very little paint under the tape. Its also better if you pull the tape off while the paint is fresh anyway, so if there is any paint it'll clean off easy with a damp rag wrapped over a putty knife. If you're doing two coats the time savings is small, especially for the less experienced painter. And for caulked in trim like this taped lines are going to look so much better than any cut in.
A "professional" doesn't need to waste time or money on tape.
Do not need tape
I feel like I cut a pretty straight line free hand. A well taped line though looks a different level of straight to me, especially on caulked in trim vs trim with a gap between the wall. I'd love to see the free hand lines others say they can make that compare with a taped line.
Also, I don't really do production work. Maybe that makes a difference in whether taping trim off matters. Even then though, the amount of time it takes to mask off trim is tiny, I've never timed myself but it has to be maybe 30 seconds, certainly not more than a minute, for a double window or door?
Great tip. I'll remember that one thanks.
Great videos! I would love to see more painting videos. Painting trim, doors, setup, ceilings etc... Almost like a full project would be brilliant!
Great tip , thanks!!
I cut it in with brush when wet right away following up with a mini 4 inch 3/4 core roller . Job looks professional every time . It’s nice to have 4 inch roller for the small areas the the big one don’t fit
How close do you get to the edge when rolling after cutting ?
20 to 10 years ago, I've never experienced these problems.
Quality of the paints is going down.
All the way corner to corner
The grip he uses is also important for controlling the brush.
Nice! Well done video that gets to the point without lots of yapping!
After cutting in a wall I roll the wall with a 15 mil lint free roller! I come approximately 1/4 inch from the trim. Friendly tip! Cheers!
The Painting Expert on a normal day (heat and humidity-wise), how much time do you have before you have to roll in order to avoid lines?
@@Avital4414 just do all of your trims first, then roll your walls.
@@huuamai8151 my problem now is ceilings; I have a hard time finishing in time to avoid lap marks.
@@Avital4414 I'm not sure what you mean. It's not a race.
From what I understand, you are left with overlapping marks, so your brush strokes show?
If it makes you feel more comfortable, just do your trims/ceiling cut-ins while immediately rolling that line so that no Mark's have time to dry.
Just remember to feather your rolling edges (so it fades into the the wall).
@@huuamai8151 Thanks!
Great tip uncle Bruce!
Brush marks are still there they are now horizontal and visible
Nathan Robinson, good catch! Perhaps I should’ve said “eliminating visible brush marks” or the like. Thanks for your comment!
lol, that's what I was thinking. I just cut in with the trim brush at the molding then roll with a 4" thin roller while the paint I put on with the brush is still wet.
Fantastic, much better, thanks!
Great tip 👍👍 thanks for sharing
Thanks! worked well for me!
It is reflecting back it's just that you're not at an angle to see any shadows because there aren't any being cast.
That's a great tip. Thank you. Simple, but effective.
Timing is important. Dry brush quickly after first application.
What do you mean by this
thanksss nice tip 🤩
oh wow. goid tip.
chinex is a stiff bristle that digs into the paint more. If your room is warm your paint will dry fast and show more lines. And youre brushing too far onto the wall. You only need to cover enough to get the roller in there. You dont need to brush horizontally. Just roll it.
Yes, this is a good video to show why not to use chinex in such an application.
Thanks for this! Hate marks
Light is your friend or your enemy depending on the situation. Thanks.
"Light" is your friend...
The lack of it, our common enemy.
Stay "illuminated".
@@citizenY Thanks, I like the enlightened wisdom.
@@williambranham6249 always important to distunguish between enlightment and illumination
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I try to use roller for most of my painting only time i use a brush is getting right in the wall corners there is no way to eliminate brush strokes no matter how expensive or well a brush is made rollers are the solution unless a spray gun is used that is best way to paint..
You can add a paint conditioner to eliminate most of your brush Mark's.floetrol for waterbased paints and owatrol for oilbased paint s
I usually use an 18" roller, and in areas that it or a 9 inch roller won't fit, this process works well. But if you can only fit a brush in that space you will need to pay attention to the way you brush that area. If the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
Thank you for sharing
Great tip. I’ll remember that next time I have a couple of weeks to paint 1 room😏
Mark J thanks for your comment! I find it doesn’t take extra time so the customer doesn’t notice brush marks or imperfections. 🤓
Lol
Use an additive to help the the paint lay down also .
Most beginner painters don’t know what an additive is and I am trying to help those folks who go to Lowe’s or Home Depot after they decide they want to paint their room. My goal is to help them get great results using the limited skills they have. Experienced painters and professionals know several ways to eliminate brush marks and they are not my audience.
Brilliant.
Chinex will make lines in your paint because it is a coarse bristle. Those are better for exterior. It should be a wall brush 3 or 4 inch. That small brush doesnt hold enough paint to cut quickly.
do the inch cut and roller for the rest upto the edge... bang just saved 15minutes of your life right there and you don't need to worry about any brush marks..
What if there is not enough room for the roller?? what about if the trim is too close to a wall??
I usually use an 18" roller, and in areas that it or a 9 inch roller won't fit, this process works well. But if you can only fit a brush in that space you will need to pay attention to the way you brush that area. If the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
Or you can just keep the roller with you and as you cut it in roll right up to it about an eighth of an inch while it's still wet and then you're good. This would take forever to do a whole house
Thank you so much!!!!
Milenka, thank your for the feedback!! Are there other skills or techniques that you would like me to share?
Get a good brush like a Corona is the first step. Apply the paint with the brush and then roll with a small diameter short nap roller.
Try a nylox bristle for that. Chinex is a good durable bristle but only good for exteriors. Interiors take soft bristles dude. Especially satin or eggshell. The side feather thing may be good for a homeowner but will turn a 30 min task into a 4 hour task. Time is money.
That's a good idea but I can still see the lines
wow i naturally do this anyway we are genius pros!
White China bristle brush using latex isn't recommended. Nor is wetting a natural bristle brush with water for clean up.
tier1solutions you are right, but I am not using a White China brush. In my video I say that I am using a Chinex brush. The Chinex brush is for all paints-as it says on the package. It cleans up so much better than other latex brush options. I use Chinex exclusively because of it's performance. Thanks for your comment!
Really? Please post the package. Thanks for your reply.
www.imageworkspainting.com/blog/bid/350130/choosing-the-right-brush-for-your-painting-project
"Natural bristle brushes are not generally recommended for water-based coatings because the bristles absorb water, become limp and lose their shape."
Thanks for the speedy response.
www.homedepot.com/p/Wooster-3-in-Chinex-Angle-Sash-Brush-0H21200030/203193292
5 Minute Handyman that's Chinex not white China bristle
@@tier1solutions28 that's what he said
what about dabbing to match the rroller texture
Use some flowtrool by flood.It slows the drying time an get the brush marks out.done this for 55 years.
Teve Tanders you are correct! Using a paint extender would help the brush mark situation, but I would bet that 80% of people painting their home do not know what a paint extender is or what it is used for. This video is to help people who want great results with the paint they have already spent their hard earned money on and don't want to spend extra money on extenders
Tried Floetrol today. It works, but it doesn't work that well. Still have very visible brush marks.
add some floetrol to the paint
Or you could back roll with 4inch mini roller
Or you could of just used a smaller roller sleeve, or added an additive to your paint to lower drag.
What if I don’t have space to use a roller? What if my outlet is too close to the door trim? This is a technique for beginners and novice painters who want to get professional results. Sometimes I don’t want to use two or three different paint application products to paint an area.
So basically, we replace vertical brush marks with horizontal brush marks ? Either way we still see brush marks ! Does the light source make it less obvious when the lines are horizontal ?
John Conway , You are partially right when you say we are replacing vertical with horizontal brush marks but, what we are doing is we are allowing the light to not accent those brush marks. In every case when you trim around a door frame, window frame, or ceiling, what needs to happen is the peaks and valleys from the brush lines need to be smooth out. The easiest method is to pull them toward the light source, but, if you use a fine bristles try next brush, then the lines will be minimized and you will get a nice uniform painted surface. Thanks for your comment! I appreciate you :-)
@@5MinuteHandyman Thank you very kindly for your reply . I think now I understand what you are saying . You explained your reasons very clearly . I will take note of that in future because I never previously considered the effect of the light source on the appearance of brush marks . Thanks again .
Braw I still see the brush marks
I usually use an 18" roller, and in areas that it or a 9 inch roller won't fit, this process works well. But if you can only fit a brush in that space you will need to pay attention to the way you brush that area. If the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
Could you help with my wife's stretch marks ?
Stunl3y absolutely! BTW, do you know where Doc’s Delorian is??
Position her so the light is parallel to the stretch marks.
Short and right on point. Love it, Thanks. 👍👍👍
I can still see the marks
Errr there's still horizontal strokes
i give you a free extra tip :
try paint on 15 degress temperature or
if day is hot use paint conditioner is a time extender
good luck
Yes, but I usually use an 18" roller, and in areas that it or a 9 inch roller won't fit, this process works well. But if you can only fit a brush in that space you will need to pay attention to the way you brush that area. If the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
Why not just use floetrol or M1
tyson sittu Most homeowners don’t know about floetrol or M1. They also don’t wanna have different rollers to do different specialty areas they want one roller for the wall and a brush to cut in. Just providing a simple way to use the tools that they have to get a professional look. Thanks for your comment!
5 Minute Handyman great video my friend! Do you have any tips on how to properly use floetrol or even m1.
Hey thanks for your comment! I would recommend using the instructions on the product container and then perhaps asking your paint materials provider (the guy at Home Depot, Lowes, Sherwin Wiliams) on what type of brush you should use.
Couldn't u just roll it there?
Yes, but I usually use an 18" roller, and in areas that it or a 9 inch roller won't fit, this process works well. But if you can only fit a brush in that space you will need to pay attention to the way you brush that area. If the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
Duh!!! Just use a paint extender
+Leonard Martin, thanks for your comment! A lot of people don’t want to spend the extra money for paint extender and so this technique is a zero cost solution.
Leonard Martin you are correct! Using a paint extender would help the brush mark situation, but I would bet that 80% of people painting their home do not know what a paint extender is or what it is used for. This video is to help people who want great results with the paint they have already spent their hard earned money on and don't want to spend extra money on extenders.
You didn't eliminate the brush marks, yuo just made them harder to see.
Brush marks are still there just going a different direction
Yes, but if the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
Paint conditioners and use a synthetic bristle brush..you will not see any brush mark s .try it
David Phillips Thank you for your comment, some folks don’t want to spend more on conditioners when they are trying to save money by painting on their own.
David Phillips Yes, you are correct use paint conditioners and synthetic brushes. However, I am trying to reach out to homeowners who do not want to spend more money on paint conditioners and specialty brushes. This is a simple tip which can reduce visible brush marks. Thanks for your comment!
DOH!!!
hey try this and youll never go back to horizontal style brother! lmao! seriously though, after you paint it on with a brush in any direction take a spare cheap dry ( dry) roller 1/4 nap thin as posible or some good sponge rollers foam, and go over the intire area of freash strokes asap it lays it flat takes off excess that builds those stokes in first place ! do it dry roller style baby! youll never go back! looks like glass smooth with a good paint! leveling paint , or enamel looks like glass! get er done bud!! boo yah!
just get an addtive ffs, one wet pass and one dry pass after unloading the paint and leave it the fck alone.
The general public does not know what
An additive is. I am trying to help those people who decide they want to paint their room go to Lowe’s or Home Depot buy paint and paint their room. Professionals and folks who have painted a lot might know about additives which are extremely helpful for leveling out pain but to the beginner this is a great tip for them!
Are you copying and pasting all your replies?
Wear disposable gloves when painting!
N E V E R ! ! ! Gloves make my hands sweat...
So, still have brush marks? But fooling customer via shadow tricks, nice!🙄
Haha! I usually use an 18" roller, and in areas that it or a 9 inch roller won't fit, this process works well. But if you can only fit a brush in that space you will need to pay attention to the way you brush that area. If the brush mark ridges are not accented by the light, you don't see them. The whole point of this video is to show that if you have a brush or paint that doesn't perform well, you can get professional results by doing this technique. I am not 'selling my services' but rather I am helping a DIYer to make their painting better. When I paint, I put enough paint on the brush to cover the surface, but then I "draw it out." However, most DIYers overload their brushes and do not go back over their stroke and "draw it out." BTW, to draw it out is a technique where the brush is scraped clean of paint and the paint on the wall is brushed over and over to eliminate the wet paint ridges. Hope this addresses your comment.
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You're not ELIMINATING brush marks, just making them harder to see. Misleading title.
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Why do that when back rolling anyway? Just a waste of time.
Use a roller🤣😂🤣
Ralph Bennett one can use a roller to get close to the woodwork, but to get a smooth cut line, a brush is necessary. I have a video that shows a "cutting tool" that has a roller and an innovative edge brush that works quite well. It is titled 'CUTTING A STRAIGHT PAINT EDGE.'
5 Minute handyman, I was being sarcastic. You might be able to reduce brush marks but unlike your video title you can not eliminate them, it’s impossible, a better title would have been reducing brush marks!
Yeah sure, it's still very very visible