The difference between the app saying it's fully charged and the light turning green on the charger is: balance. Onewheel batteries are made up of a bunch of smaller batteries. Once they reach overall capacity, the app will tell you that it's full. It is full essentially, but the battery will continue on to balance the voltage of all of the different cells. For example, some will be 4.22V, and some will be 4.18V. The charger will work to stabilize all cells at 4.2V for as long as it takes. If you typically allow it to charge until the light is green, it will happen pretty quickly. If you don't and typically pull it once the app says it's full, the imbalance will become greater and greater over time and take a much longer time to balance, when finally allowed. Also, over the life of the battery, some cells will do better than others. There will ultimately become "problem cells" after many cycles and this is when performance becomes noticeably reduced as well as longevity concerning each charge. All that to say "the difference between the app and the green light is balance times".
Go Justin! Very useful video. The FM charger is very heavy and takes up a lot of space. Good call out on the openings in the Chi charger. Great pacing with this video! Keep doing what you do!
Thanks so much Don! You're the best man and yeah I got to keep the reviews honest. Always appreciate you and your great feedback! Helps me so much every time!
*Great comparison, I would pick the ChiBattery version* due to size and price. Also, 100% vs light turnin green, the difference is usually to due to cell balancin (on most eboards), once it reaches 100% it takes a little bit longer to balance the cells out. Always best to allow that, at least every now and then.
Thanks man and thanks so much for sharing! I wasn't 100% sure so I didn't really leave that part in the edit and was hoping someone would address that in the comments! lol! So thank you! Appreciate ya!
Great video, i love the clips you added haha. Chi is undisputed king, especially if you bundle the hyper charger for only $90 with a battery. I did that, amd i saved $120 compared to the stock hypercharger
Great breakdown! I have fast chargers for my power scooter and EUC. Aside from being able get to 100% much faster than stock chargers another key feature in some fast chargers is the ability to control the percentage of charge. I rarely leave my batteries at 100% unless I know I am about to go riding. I usually set my fast chargers to 70% and charge up my Dualtron and Nikola and leave them at that storage to slow down battery degradation.
Thanks so much Robert! And yes! Not charging to 100% makes a huge difference and wish I knew this sooner. CBS actually came out with a new variable charger that I'm hoping to get my hands on. It allows you to switch between different charge speeds and set up alerts for certain charge percentages! Game changer!
Thanks Noel! and lol man I think I've only heard it pronounced that way on shows or movies, that's how you know I'm from Baltimore haha this will take some getting use to! Shy Battery Systems... Shy Battery Systems lol I'll get there eventually haha
I would be interested to see the quality of the electronics inside of the case. When you buy a surge protector the reason Monster charges so much is 1) their brand which means nothing and 2) they overbuild the heck out of them to make them as safe and "clean" as possible. I don't know who builds either of these but it would be nice to see if the FM version is so heavy and expensive because it is over built - not only because of the Onewheel badge.
yep the chi might be the winner today-but if it only lasts 3 months-and/or shorts out (cause something got in the open fan port-or whatever) and then it also shorts out your board-causing it to start heating up when charging until one day one of the batteries burst, catching your house on fire, and due the the original shorting out-all the phones in the house got a surge of power-so now none of them work when you need to call 911, and your onewheel is on fire-so you cant go to your neighbors to call for help, now you are in shock and have no idea what to do so you drop to the ground rocking and hugging yourself screaming, MOMMY, MOMMY, by the time they find you there is not much that can be done, the police on the scene talk amongst themselves and decide the humane thing to do is to put you out of your misery, so they shoot you 6 times in the chest and wait for you to bleed out-it takes about 3 minutes. so tell me was the chi worth it now?
OH also, i believe Future motion makes them in the USA, i assume Chi-makes theirs in Chi-na, and China has currently approx 12 million political prisoners they use as actual-real life slaves.
I just use a CarvePower setup for group ride charging. It lets me swap cables for my pintx or XR and it was around 200$ with the slide battery for anywhere charging! Definitely would get the chipower though!
Sup Drew! Appreciate that so much. And no worries, luckily the price difference for the Pint chargers is only about $10 and no where near as bad as the $80 diff for XR.
I guess I'm just curious if either one hurtds the cells in the battery. I saw a fast charger some place and they said it's not recommended to use the fast charger as your daily charger.
Using any fast charger on a regular basis will definitely degrade your battery even faster. I would use the slow home charger as often as possible and if you want to save your battery even more, charge it only to 80%.
I use the chi fast charger every groupride. Its so useful on the go. There is absolutely no reason to buy the FM one for the price and size its at. The chi charger also has a fan for cooling while the FM fast charger has no fan
Great video. Interesting that about the green light, I wonder what extra range is gained from charging to green rather than stopping at 100% on red. I think I'll go for the cheaper lighter chi
Hey Matt, yeah from I understand is that it helps balance out the battery cells so if you have time to wait, wouldn't hurt to let it fully balance but if not its not the worst thing. I actually heard charging your board to 80% max is actually the longest way to preserve the battery health.
On the pint the battery will be at 63.4 volts, compared to 62.3. I go 10 miles when it is fully charged and used right after. 1% = to one tenth of a mile. The xr would get a bit more range. I don't know due to not having one. I have the standard battery for the pint. Balanced once a month, 210lbs, and ride 8 to 10 mph. In full captain Morgan, 7.5 miles
Solid review. Definitely seems like a no brainier. And it’s easy to fix those holes in the chi charger when you travel, it’s a ziplock bag. So long as it doesn’t get too warm of course. I would guess they were similar in heat created or you would have mentioned it. Or maybe just didn’t notice. But when I can, it looks like the chi charger for me.
Thanks man and wow Ziplock bag... genius. I love it. Definitely going to do that just in case. You know I actually didn't really notice any major heat difference. However I am curious how hot it could get during the summer out in direct sunlight. I'll update this video if it turns out to be something worth mentioning.
Very curious about the variable! Not sure how bigger it is but it'd be nice to have some more control over how fast or slow we charge our boards and up to what percentage!
The difference between the app saying it's fully charged and the light turning green on the charger is: balance.
Onewheel batteries are made up of a bunch of smaller batteries. Once they reach overall capacity, the app will tell you that it's full. It is full essentially, but the battery will continue on to balance the voltage of all of the different cells. For example, some will be 4.22V, and some will be 4.18V. The charger will work to stabilize all cells at 4.2V for as long as it takes. If you typically allow it to charge until the light is green, it will happen pretty quickly. If you don't and typically pull it once the app says it's full, the imbalance will become greater and greater over time and take a much longer time to balance, when finally allowed.
Also, over the life of the battery, some cells will do better than others. There will ultimately become "problem cells" after many cycles and this is when performance becomes noticeably reduced as well as longevity concerning each charge.
All that to say "the difference between the app and the green light is balance times".
Go Justin! Very useful video. The FM charger is very heavy and takes up a lot of space. Good call out on the openings in the Chi charger. Great pacing with this video! Keep doing what you do!
Thanks so much Don! You're the best man and yeah I got to keep the reviews honest. Always appreciate you and your great feedback! Helps me so much every time!
*Great comparison, I would pick the ChiBattery version* due to size and price.
Also, 100% vs light turnin green, the difference is usually to due to cell balancin (on most eboards), once it reaches 100% it takes a little bit longer to balance the cells out. Always best to allow that, at least every now and then.
Thanks man and thanks so much for sharing! I wasn't 100% sure so I didn't really leave that part in the edit and was hoping someone would address that in the comments! lol! So thank you! Appreciate ya!
I'm talking just for you and have to say I'm loving these, thank you for all the info and sharing your thoughts!!!
Sup Wyy! Really appreciate this, late on my response but wanted to take time and thank you for your kind words. Stay awesome!
Super useful Info man!! Loving the videos! 🤙
Hey thanks so much Levi! Really appreciate that so much! Have an awesome day!
Great video, i love the clips you added haha. Chi is undisputed king, especially if you bundle the hyper charger for only $90 with a battery. I did that, amd i saved $120 compared to the stock hypercharger
Good job with the comparison! 👍🏼
How do I adjust the fuse to lower amperage? I see the fuse knob, so if I twist to lowest setting is that the slow and not hyper charge? Please help
Great breakdown! I have fast chargers for my power scooter and EUC. Aside from being able get to 100% much faster than stock chargers another key feature in some fast chargers is the ability to control the percentage of charge. I rarely leave my batteries at 100% unless I know I am about to go riding. I usually set my fast chargers to 70% and charge up my Dualtron and Nikola and leave them at that storage to slow down battery degradation.
Good call on the ability to choose charge percentage. I get so many regen warnings for my Onewheel when I charge close to 100 percent.
Thanks so much Robert! And yes! Not charging to 100% makes a huge difference and wish I knew this sooner. CBS actually came out with a new variable charger that I'm hoping to get my hands on. It allows you to switch between different charge speeds and set up alerts for certain charge percentages! Game changer!
Excellent review, you make professional quality videos. By the way, this is Aaron's son (We've met a few times).
Sup man! Thanks so much! Appreciate that! And if I recall, you're going to college this fall right? If so, did you find out where you're going?
@@CinematicSouls Yeah, I was offered a full ride at Whitworth, which happens to be the school I've actually been going to for the last two years!
Nice review video! FYI, purists in Chicago pronounce "chi" as shy, so you gave some of us from Chi-town a chuckle.
Thanks Noel! and lol man I think I've only heard it pronounced that way on shows or movies, that's how you know I'm from Baltimore haha this will take some getting use to! Shy Battery Systems... Shy Battery Systems lol I'll get there eventually haha
Nice video! I will be buying the Chi charger soon. Just got my one wheel abs I am loving it!
Keep up the great videos, I just bought one and I’m pumped
Can U use this Chipower charge on the Pint X ..? Plz reply 🙏 thank-you
Bro really added the clip from Friday!!😂
I’m dying 😂😂😂
LMAO I couldn't resist 😂😂😂😂
I would be interested to see the quality of the electronics inside of the case. When you buy a surge protector the reason Monster charges so much is 1) their brand which means nothing and 2) they overbuild the heck out of them to make them as safe and "clean" as possible. I don't know who builds either of these but it would be nice to see if the FM version is so heavy and expensive because it is over built - not only because of the Onewheel badge.
yep the chi might be the winner today-but if it only lasts 3 months-and/or shorts out (cause something got in the open fan port-or whatever) and then it also shorts out your board-causing it to start heating up when charging until one day one of the batteries burst, catching your house on fire, and due the the original shorting out-all the phones in the house got a surge of power-so now none of them work when you need to call 911, and your onewheel is on fire-so you cant go to your neighbors to call for help, now you are in shock and have no idea what to do so you drop to the ground rocking and hugging yourself screaming, MOMMY, MOMMY, by the time they find you there is not much that can be done, the police on the scene talk amongst themselves and decide the humane thing to do is to put you out of your misery, so they shoot you 6 times in the chest and wait for you to bleed out-it takes about 3 minutes. so tell me was the chi worth it now?
OH also, i believe Future motion makes them in the USA, i assume Chi-makes theirs in Chi-na, and China has currently approx 12 million political prisoners they use as actual-real life slaves.
where can you buy this charger need one asap
How loud are they compared to each other? I’ve heard the Chi fast charger is pretty loud.
It is fan in the chibattery charger is hella loud!
@@Juicey808_euc That's helpful. Thank you!
I just use a CarvePower setup for group ride charging. It lets me swap cables for my pintx or XR and it was around 200$ with the slide battery for anywhere charging!
Definitely would get the chipower though!
Fantastic video! Please keep making these!~
Thank You Kai!
My pleasure Ben! Name's actually Justin, I named my XR Kai! lol was never the type to name my car but the onewheel felt different haha
@@CinematicSouls sorry about that Justin.
I still went with the Hyper Charger from Future Motion.
Nice job! I got my pint ultra charger 2 weeks ago. Maybe I should have bought the chi 🤭
Sup Drew! Appreciate that so much. And no worries, luckily the price difference for the Pint chargers is only about $10 and no where near as bad as the $80 diff for XR.
I guess I'm just curious if either one hurtds the cells in the battery.
I saw a fast charger some place and they said it's not recommended to use the fast charger as your daily charger.
Using any fast charger on a regular basis will definitely degrade your battery even faster. I would use the slow home charger as often as possible and if you want to save your battery even more, charge it only to 80%.
I use the chi fast charger every groupride. Its so useful on the go. There is absolutely no reason to buy the FM one for the price and size its at. The chi charger also has a fan for cooling while the FM fast charger has no fan
Yes and yes, still the goto charger for all my rides!
Yo, dude if anybody has it, it's you. 5he insta 360 mini. WOW, that thing blows me away. Can't wait to see/hear what your gonna say about it.
Thanks Jason! Appreciate you my man! Definitely curious about it too! Will keep you posted if I get my hands on one to review!
Great video. Interesting that about the green light, I wonder what extra range is gained from charging to green rather than stopping at 100% on red.
I think I'll go for the cheaper lighter chi
Hey Matt, yeah from I understand is that it helps balance out the battery cells so if you have time to wait, wouldn't hurt to let it fully balance but if not its not the worst thing. I actually heard charging your board to 80% max is actually the longest way to preserve the battery health.
On the pint the battery will be at 63.4 volts, compared to 62.3. I go 10 miles when it is fully charged and used right after. 1% = to one tenth of a mile. The xr would get a bit more range. I don't know due to not having one. I have the standard battery for the pint. Balanced once a month, 210lbs, and ride 8 to 10 mph. In full captain Morgan, 7.5 miles
Helpful, thanks!
Cool video thanks.
Super useful info thanks
My pleasure! Thanks for watching and writing me a few a words! Have a good week man!
Solid review. Definitely seems like a no brainier.
And it’s easy to fix those holes in the chi charger when you travel, it’s a ziplock bag. So long as it doesn’t get too warm of course. I would guess they were similar in heat created or you would have mentioned it. Or maybe just didn’t notice.
But when I can, it looks like the chi charger for me.
Thanks man and wow Ziplock bag... genius. I love it. Definitely going to do that just in case. You know I actually didn't really notice any major heat difference. However I am curious how hot it could get during the summer out in direct sunlight. I'll update this video if it turns out to be something worth mentioning.
The green lights are when the cells are balanced
chi hyper is the only choice imo, variable comes in 2nd
the chi is slower, but safer for it
Very curious about the variable! Not sure how bigger it is but it'd be nice to have some more control over how fast or slow we charge our boards and up to what percentage!
Something to keep in mind. Reduced weight of the charger will help with additional overall length of the charge. Bet it evens out over time.
They did not pay me but got me free charger, come on that is just the same lol
Are you adopted?